Jonathan is up there with Daniel Schmachtenberger, Zach Stein, Nate Hagens, the folks out at Antiykethera, and a handful of others grasping the manitude, threat, and opportunity of these liminal, transitional times between worlds ...
High praise, got me intrigued, giving this a go. What's your address again if I don't feel the same, you won't be botting an Amazon correspondence back now, all human here, we hope. On we go says you - checking this out now.
Brilliant. Much gratitude and reassurance that there are many folks out there, quietly observing and thinking like this. Not reassurance as in, 'all will be fine', but reassurance that someone, in fact many someones, are taking notice of the unusual and daunting complexities of our time and in the least, finding the words to discuss them with calm clarity and thoughtfulness.
Beautiful guidance through a new frame. I've been reflecting of late on what would happen if we all recognized in one another our inheritance of intergenerational trauma across time, so that that common bond could be a foundation of the new, the healing, the healed. So many times in past decade, even before lockdowns, I've had a recurring impulse to simply pause all human activity long enough to allow us "moderns" return to our full capacities. Agree likely meeting the greatest needs most effectively happens locally. This principle is evident in aftermath of every disaster where humans help one another far in advance of governments or institutions. Even in most high-tech healthcare systems on the planet, a large portion of helpful care arises through volunteers.
I loom at it like this. Every generation claims the next generation has it easier but reality is we in this generation look at the stone age as heaven, but don't you think they viewed it as a living hell? Bring a Neanderthal to our generation and they would view it as heaven even with how everyone acts cause they've been through worse 😂😂😂
Watching Jonathan think out loud like this is a real treat, and so beautifully accompanied by the film work. Not overdone, as is so often the case, but images used sparingly and appropriate to illuminate the subject. And, again, Jonathan's way of understanding the world and our moment in time, and then explaining it in such a knowledgeable yet vulnerable, open-minded way, is remarkable. Thank you both.
Beautiful. When I speak to many in my circle they roll their eyes and don't understand what I'm talking about but I know that they feel 'something is different'. This little gem of a film speaks to me in language that is both poetic and makes me feel, rather than just hear the words. Thank you Jonathan and Katie for stunning production.
Absolutely brilliant… Thanks so much for this work, Katie Teague. I didn’t know about Jonathan‘s work however, I am thrilled that now I do. I agree with one of the other comments here, that put Jonathan in the territory with people such as Nora Bateson, Nate Hagens, Zack, Stein, Daniel Schmachtenberger, and Bayo Akomolafe…
thank you soooooo much. it's fascinating and resonates so much with what's close to my heart, in the nuances, the acceptance of a certain confusion and the desire to think without looking for solutions at all costs.
So powerful. A cogent explanation of the complexities of the essential question. Thank you Jonathan and thanks to Katie Teague for this lucid of our world.
18:20 "the tragic though is to be lost and broken by despair the tragic is to be unable to function because you're so thoroughly depressed." Matt Christman, May 12, 2021: "Confronting despair is about reclaiming the future."
Regarding post-tragic, I don't think this, as Jonathan suggests, is where the soul is formed through the battles of the previous phases. I think it is more to do with how the soul is revealed more and more via such battles when we realise that we have been carrying despair about was largely due to misplaced hopes and attachments to projections of life (rather than life as it is). Yes, the heart breaks and, via the right containers, becomes more open to reality as it is, and itself becomes a larger vessel.
Listening into these vibrations and patterns of ontologically poetic sensemaking feels like neurosomatic lovemaking. Foundational reality generation at its best.
I propose we shift from the (reality divergent, reality reduced) 5 sense reductionist materialistic paradigm to the 6 sense paradigm as described in rEvolution. This will firstly bring humans out of their metacrisis and stabilise them, and from there, new and better solutions to the problems the old paradigm has created, may be solved.
To me, this sounds like a kind of a hyper-gloss over the superordinate climate trauma we embodied beings are feeling as a result of grievously wounding our life source, the larger organism of which we are all integral parts. This new form of trauma is triggering all our unresolved collective traumas, which gives the appearance, then, of a metacrisis. The heart of the crisis is what Indigenous peoples have called "Earth Wounding," a kind of trauma where the perpetrator becomes victimized by their own grievous actions.
I was thinking something similar. Post-Tragic thinking appears, to me, to simply be the re-donning of psychic armor to protect yourself from the drama of death. Tragic thinking might feel terrible, but someone has to grieve.
That was awesome, y'all! I'm so down to be a hyposubject! People, if you see this let's be friends. Hit me up. Anybody with eyes on this is another iron filing I want to magnetize, or a cilia rowing alongside me that I will be glad to know. That's the second coming, BTW: the buddha is the sangha. Peter Gabriel's new album i/o is about it. We become planetary, as William Irwin Thompson prophesied...I'm here for it and cannot wait to meet the rest of you!
I was very interested in what he had to say - whoever added that horrible music however made the task extremely difficult. Lose the music, this isn't some commercial for Depends or something that geriatrics need. Yecchhh
Be nice if over the half hour the real meta crisis was mentioned. Try and do without oil and the crisis will appear. Our system revolves around it, same as your life, which is probably here because of it.
Act Three is one such movement by bill Mc King on with Seniors putting pressure on Banks to divest of Fossil fuels investments etc. Grassroots people pressure. I only use Credit Union no more Chase acct. Etc what ideas do YOU have?
@@nancycrawford2033 How many acts is in this play, not a single bank has divested from fossil fuel investments because every investment is in an oil based system that depends on oil, home loans are dependant on the same amount of energy being used for the entirety of the loan, your money doesn't stay in your account, credit unions aren't any less impact of the economic system we are in.. 20% of our energy used is electricity, add 5% for medical, 5 for food/transport, round up 10% and a complete change to the economic system of profit over need we could offer everybody food, shelter and medical care, for free, and lower energy use 60%. Grass roots people pressure when most people don't understand what they are asking for is only slowing down the problem solving, by design.
Jonathan is up there with Daniel Schmachtenberger, Zach Stein, Nate Hagens, the folks out at Antiykethera, and a handful of others grasping the manitude, threat, and opportunity of these liminal, transitional times between worlds ...
High praise, got me intrigued, giving this a go. What's your address again if I don't feel the same, you won't be botting an Amazon correspondence back now, all human here, we hope. On we go says you - checking this out now.
My work actually answers the questions they pose.
Brilliant. Much gratitude and reassurance that there are many folks out there, quietly observing and thinking like this. Not reassurance as in, 'all will be fine', but reassurance that someone, in fact many someones, are taking notice of the unusual and daunting complexities of our time and in the least, finding the words to discuss them with calm clarity and thoughtfulness.
I can but barely imagine the work and love that went into this project. It shines through. Thank you.
Beautiful guidance through a new frame. I've been reflecting of late on what would happen if we all recognized in one another our inheritance of intergenerational trauma across time, so that that common bond could be a foundation of the new, the healing, the healed. So many times in past decade, even before lockdowns, I've had a recurring impulse to simply pause all human activity long enough to allow us "moderns" return to our full capacities. Agree likely meeting the greatest needs most effectively happens locally. This principle is evident in aftermath of every disaster where humans help one another far in advance of governments or institutions. Even in most high-tech healthcare systems on the planet, a large portion of helpful care arises through volunteers.
I loom at it like this. Every generation claims the next generation has it easier but reality is we in this generation look at the stone age as heaven, but don't you think they viewed it as a living hell? Bring a Neanderthal to our generation and they would view it as heaven even with how everyone acts cause they've been through worse 😂😂😂
Katie and Jonathan, thank you for following a new reality, in between worlds.
A painful, beautiful and gentle clarity
Deep Appreciation from Me.
Watching Jonathan think out loud like this is a real treat, and so beautifully accompanied by the film work. Not overdone, as is so often the case, but images used sparingly and appropriate to illuminate the subject. And, again, Jonathan's way of understanding the world and our moment in time, and then explaining it in such a knowledgeable yet vulnerable, open-minded way, is remarkable. Thank you both.
Wow! You made the meta crisis beautiful… which gives Jonathan’s words a transformative clarity.
A wonderful film!
"The Universe may well be enchanted.." #serendipity
Beautifully present to the reality of our times. Heartfelt gratitude to Katie and Jonathan from Kosmos - r.fabian
Beautiful. When I speak to many in my circle they roll their eyes and don't understand what I'm talking about but I know that they feel 'something is different'. This little gem of a film speaks to me in language that is both poetic and makes me feel, rather than just hear the words. Thank you Jonathan and Katie for stunning production.
Collapse Club is a place where this is being discussed - How shall we live in times of collapse?
Damn. Very well put. I'm deeply grateful that you phrase highly relevant topics succinctly side by side.
Absolutely brilliant… Thanks so much for this work, Katie Teague. I didn’t know about Jonathan‘s work however, I am thrilled that now I do. I agree with one of the other comments here, that put Jonathan in the territory with people such as Nora Bateson, Nate Hagens, Zack, Stein, Daniel Schmachtenberger, and Bayo Akomolafe…
thank you soooooo much. it's fascinating and resonates so much with what's close to my heart, in the nuances, the acceptance of a certain confusion and the desire to think without looking for solutions at all costs.
This was amazing, it really made me smile and feel less alone.
You conveyed something profound very eloquently and articulately. Thank you.
Valuable insight -- STATIONS OF THE SELF: Pre-tragic, tragic, post-tragic. Zach Stein; Mark Gaffne.
So powerful. A cogent explanation of the complexities of the essential question. Thank you Jonathan and thanks to Katie Teague for this lucid of our world.
Um, yes… to all of this. The new chapter is being written in hearts infused in stillness and awake with connection.
18:20
"the tragic though is to be lost and broken by despair the tragic is to be unable to function because you're so thoroughly depressed."
Matt Christman, May 12, 2021:
"Confronting despair is about reclaiming the future."
extraordinary film Katie and deeply informative - thank you
Regarding post-tragic, I don't think this, as Jonathan suggests, is where the soul is formed through the battles of the previous phases. I think it is more to do with how the soul is revealed more and more via such battles when we realise that we have been carrying despair about was largely due to misplaced hopes and attachments to projections of life (rather than life as it is). Yes, the heart breaks and, via the right containers, becomes more open to reality as it is, and itself becomes a larger vessel.
There seem to be a whole pantheon of existential threats bearing down to imminence, and simultaneously, time has nearly run out.
Listening into these vibrations and patterns of ontologically poetic sensemaking feels like neurosomatic lovemaking. Foundational reality generation at its best.
Entropy is definitely something interesting to study.
Thanks!
Brilliant, thank you, I'm with you...
I propose we shift from the (reality divergent, reality reduced) 5 sense reductionist materialistic paradigm to the 6 sense paradigm as described in rEvolution. This will firstly bring humans out of their metacrisis and stabilise them, and from there, new and better solutions to the problems the old paradigm has created, may be solved.
To me, this sounds like a kind of a hyper-gloss over the superordinate climate trauma we embodied beings are feeling as a result of grievously wounding our life source, the larger organism of which we are all integral parts. This new form of trauma is triggering all our unresolved collective traumas, which gives the appearance, then, of a metacrisis. The heart of the crisis is what Indigenous peoples have called "Earth Wounding," a kind of trauma where the perpetrator becomes victimized by their own grievous actions.
I was thinking something similar. Post-Tragic thinking appears, to me, to simply be the re-donning of psychic armor to protect yourself from the drama of death. Tragic thinking might feel terrible, but someone has to grieve.
Hmmm ❤
❤thank you 🙏
That was awesome, y'all! I'm so down to be a hyposubject! People, if you see this let's be friends. Hit me up. Anybody with eyes on this is another iron filing I want to magnetize, or a cilia rowing alongside me that I will be glad to know. That's the second coming, BTW: the buddha is the sangha. Peter Gabriel's new album i/o is about it. We become planetary, as William Irwin Thompson prophesied...I'm here for it and cannot wait to meet the rest of you!
You are already a hypo-subject extraordinaire Michael👍🏼🎉🔥becoming planetary or bust! ❤katie
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I’ve come up with a theory and prescription that could be the answer to the question you pose.
Even hypoagents might struggle with that musak.
🙏🌍
Fusion is not, fusion is ala alchemy
I was very interested in what he had to say - whoever added that horrible music however made the task extremely difficult. Lose the music, this isn't some commercial for Depends or something that geriatrics need. Yecchhh
Be nice if over the half hour the real meta crisis was mentioned. Try and do without oil and the crisis will appear. Our system revolves around it, same as your life, which is probably here because of it.
Act Three is one such movement by bill Mc King on with Seniors putting pressure on Banks to divest of Fossil fuels investments etc. Grassroots people pressure. I only use Credit Union no more Chase acct. Etc what ideas do YOU have?
@@nancycrawford2033 How many acts is in this play, not a single bank has divested from fossil fuel investments because every investment is in an oil based system that depends on oil, home loans are dependant on the same amount of energy being used for the entirety of the loan, your money doesn't stay in your account, credit unions aren't any less impact of the economic system we are in..
20% of our energy used is electricity, add 5% for medical, 5 for food/transport, round up 10% and a complete change to the economic system of profit over need we could offer everybody food, shelter and medical care, for free, and lower energy use 60%. Grass roots people pressure when most people don't understand what they are asking for is only slowing down the problem solving, by design.