This is also true of Undertale - no matter what, Asgore has to die. Even if you do a pacifist route first, you still have to go through the neutral ending before you can reload your save and go do the Alphys date, and the neutral ending involves Asgore dying. Lol.
@@DTgamer_Shiver-is-best-waifu the sprite animations in this game are peak My personal favorite is the animation right before the pacifist ceroba fight where she knocks out martlet and starlow
The thing I love is that despite sharing the same position as Sans, she’s entirely different Sans when judging you is fully aware of the game mechanics and uses them to judge you, even when you do pacifist he still holds you in a light saying that you aren’t fully innocent but in all the neutrals he has something on you because he damn well knows everything you did was deliberate even on the minor levels. When Genocide starts he knows you killed everyone for fun and giggles, he tells you about everything you’ve been doing like the resets. He treats the fight like a joke because that’s all he can do, he can’t win against you and he uses that to just annoy you Martlet instead speaks from her heart as she isn’t a theorised time warping skeleton. Despite the role she’s given she is just too soft, every single neutral she passes off purposefully because she just can’t stomach killing someone she spent time with instead opting it on self defense. This is one of her flaws as the judgement character and it’s a fantastic one since the entire game she’s usually on your side. That’s why her genocide is depressing because everything crumbles on her reality when she realises everything is her fault and could’ve been avoided if she dealt with Clover later.
@@AwesomeGamer-om4hmThe point stands. Sans knows about the time travel shenanigans and judge you based in them, knowing that you always could have choose a better outcome. Martlet do not.
@@AwesomeGamer-om4hm He also knows about game mechanics a lot and time stuff. He is also basically always watching/observing u/etc. (like u said), even on Geno. OP's points still (basically) completely stand imo.
@@Dragon_Aoi @Naluh Sans is most likely NOT a timeline traveller. Sure, he's aware that alternate timelines exist, but he doesn't know what's in them. He does observe Frisk during the game, so him knowing if Frisk did mostly good or bad isn't a surprise. However knowing LV and EXP is a little suspicious, so he might know more about the world than expected, but he probably wouldn't get it from hopping through timelines. Also, @AwesomeGamer-om4hm wasn't trying to disprove OP's point, they were just adding on to it.
The difference in her reactions to your “betrayal” are heartwrenching. With low LV, she dies wondering why you’d do such a thing, she was so confident Clover was a good kid. with high LV she dies with regret in her heart, she had a backup plan and threw it away, and mere moments after doing so she’s killed for it. From her POV, there’d be no other way of looking at things. Such a good take on the “judgement scene”, UTY’s dialogue is so great.
The only thing that rlly pisses me off is that flowey stabs her from BEHIND, NOT IN THE FRONT. so why would she even think clover betrayed her if he couldn't have been the one to kill her?!?!
@@AverageBaconW She never saw Flowey. It was just those two up there, who else could do it? Along with the fact that Clover did kill, and the fact that every time Clover tried to fight Martlet, she ran away. Clover would need a surprise attack like that to get her
I know and getting shot in genocide was probably the least painful. I wouldn't wanna imagine what getting impaled on a large thorn would feel like through the gut at that
So many neutral runs, and yet, flowey doesnt ever think once (after the first neutral run ofc) that "hmm... maybe i should kill martlet before clover gets here so that we can actually get to asgore."
@@cbaha4985 i can understand this happening on the first uty neutral run, but it doesnt make sense on the next neutral runs, like, flowey has the power to reload, he could easily take martlet out, only reloading if he fucks up
@@dylanzlol7293the problem is clover can rember the loads, and in the moment notice flowey load for "no reason" clover no gonna trust in flowey and all plan go to trash and again neutral ending
@@gabrielmbx9253 but that doesnt make sense because if clover remembered, then why does clover say nothin when flowey kills martlet in future neutral runs in canon uty? Surely they could tell martlet to watch out or jump up if they did remember, but they dont, meaning that clover cant remember. And so the idea of killing martlet before clover can get there after the first neutral run would still work
@@dylanzlol7293 beacuse after the moment flowey kill marlet, flowey absorb clover soul and after this flowey reset, and clover cant remeber the resets, only the loads
…you do realise that sans doesn’t care if you’re a mass murderer, as long as you leave his brother alone right? i feel like sans is more forgiving than martlet.
It's interesting. On every neutral route, martlet just can't bring herself to attack clover, even in the situations where she thinks she really should... just like clover. On aborted no mercy routes, clover just will not attack martlet. It's only when you kill everyone in your path that clover can attack martlet. It's only when you instill clover with the doctrine of every monster being guilty that they are willing to kill martlet. And even then, they dig up memories during the fight to justify their violence. I like to think that the very first time Flowey messed with the switches to make clover fall into the dark ruins, they got the pacifist ending, and that it's only after rolling the dice over and over again that clover ever considers hurting someone.
I said this on another video, but do you think she even grabbed the vial on pacifist? Cause like… she doesn’t even mention it. Either she didn’t grab it because you hadn’t hurt a single monster, or she still did, but threw it out maybe once axis was spared before you even meet her, cuz like… she CLEARLY didn’t need it? It’s up in the air, and the player can kinda make their best guess on the situation.
Before Undertale Yellow had begun, Martlet grabbed the vial. You saw that memory of her being in Hotland, going into the True Lab to get it, right? That's in the past, and nothing we do in the game can change that because it already happened. In Pacifist, the likely possibilities of what happened to the vial are either she threw it away offscreen or she kept it in herself, but never bothered bringing up the subject because... what's the point?
@@GlitchedPhidoes that memory really happen in past tho? It would make more sense if it happened during UTY cause she wouldn't have any reason of stealing the vial and risking herself to get fired for it if it was before Clover arrived.
@@crazymartin526She had the job guarding the royal scientist in the past, she says as such during the boat ride. She likely grabbed it due to the Integrity Soul's near-killing of Dalv and Kanako and actual killing of various unnamed monsters, along with Chujin's (somewhat understandable) racism towards humans, making her worry about what would happen if another killer fell into the underground.
I love how the dialogue in the aborted genocide in the SW and the fact that in the fight agaisnt Zenith Martlet, she says that Clover has accesed her memory searching a reason to hate her, to "justified" her death and that they didn't a reason for the rest implies that clover does not really want to hurt her and once again were forcing them to hurt anything in our path AND that Clover could simply not hear Martlet in the snowdin encounter and still shoot her but them did not shoot (This happens too in the monologue that Martlet says to Clover before the final fight, they point at her and could simply shoot but once again they didn't and prefer to listened like hoping that she sacped or do something else) All of this implies too that of all the monster Clover has an especial conexion with Martlet. But specially if we not force them until nobody came they inmediatly snap out of that "Shoot no think" mentality meaning that deep down they really now that's not justice
clover only kills people who choose to fight him or get in his way, so, in a way, what clover does is just he does go out of his way to hunt for monsters but again they are choosing to fight him, like he could kill Dina but he doesn't because she doesn't get in the way
@@Vikt-vg8nz the reason is cause monsters are usually can't be harmed unless they initiate a battle. If someone gets in your way killing them Is fine? Yes they are choosing to fight him because I'm pretty sure monster can't run from fights so they have to fight back
I find that "I sense an alarming aura in you" part to make no sense if you abort genocide during Marlet to before Ceroba fight. Its pretty obvious about what Clover had done.
Monsters in Undertale are so naturally forgiving and kindhearted. They don’t discriminate between their kind, and there is no apparent sexism or racism or homophobia or anything within their communities. It puts humanity to shame. I wish we had a society like there where we all are kind to each other..
@@NatetheNintendofandid you forget the context of why they did it? it depends a lot on what happened during that neutral run and on some they don’t overthrow her since it wouldn’t make sense to. also they never talked anything about gender and if toriel gets overthrown but undyne gets crowned empress she doesn’t get overthrown either despite them both being women
The page has no citations or in-battle sprites, plus "Also known as that f**ker" and the "virgil is in your house" trivia fact, so I'm going to assume it's a troll.
Vengeful Virgil is a minor NPC with a small story role as the "villain" of a comedic event in the Wild East. You can interact with him a few times and he has more dialogue than some other minor NPCs, but you never fight him.
Most pacifist run: You found me (smiley face) Great! Neutral run: You got my message (normal face, smiley face instead if 1-2). Great (added on if 1-2) Abort Genocide/Genocide: Ah so you found me (irritated)
Is there any chance you can include Flowey's dialogue that coincide Martlet's Judgement after he killed her? I felt there are missing dialogues from Flowey to complete the judgement
@@ViolettaFGI remember him saying some stuff in aborted genocide in steamworks liek “no redemption for ur actions f-“ that he swapped it in casual neutral playthroughs
@@ViolettaFG no, I’m certain that flowey said different, like when flowey said to clover about he was worried about him getting stronger before “dodging the bullet” when he was close to reaching to LV 19 or how flowey is tired of putting up the nice guy persona before finally let out the killer instinct when Clover is around LV 10
Undertale Yellow: the friendly RPG where at least one person has to die.
It's kinda like the trolley problem, either Clover dies, or all of their enemies do.
Or martlet dies
Pacifist: Clover
Flawed Pacifist: Ceroba, Clover
Neutral: anyone, martlet, clover
Genocide: everyone but clover, guardener, feisty five (minus starlo), evacuated monsters, and the 5 human souls
@@YarbuFlarbu genocide is also feisty four and evacuated monsters
This is also true of Undertale - no matter what, Asgore has to die. Even if you do a pacifist route first, you still have to go through the neutral ending before you can reload your save and go do the Alphys date, and the neutral ending involves Asgore dying. Lol.
1:34 That fist bump between Clover and Martlet is just so cute.
Clover even smiles. Flowey was wrong about their expression.
That is one of the most perfect, beautiful and heartfelt moments of all Undertale history (TvT)
@@DTgamer_Shiver-is-best-waifu the sprite animations in this game are peak
My personal favorite is the animation right before the pacifist ceroba fight where she knocks out martlet and starlow
Martlet: I know you can change, Clover! Let's live together!
Sans: your stupid and idiot and rly horrible lol cya
* Clover.. I remember you're
*justices.*
i absolutely abhor this meme
Clover lets kill some monsters
The thing I love is that despite sharing the same position as Sans, she’s entirely different
Sans when judging you is fully aware of the game mechanics and uses them to judge you, even when you do pacifist he still holds you in a light saying that you aren’t fully innocent but in all the neutrals he has something on you because he damn well knows everything you did was deliberate even on the minor levels. When Genocide starts he knows you killed everyone for fun and giggles, he tells you about everything you’ve been doing like the resets. He treats the fight like a joke because that’s all he can do, he can’t win against you and he uses that to just annoy you
Martlet instead speaks from her heart as she isn’t a theorised time warping skeleton. Despite the role she’s given she is just too soft, every single neutral she passes off purposefully because she just can’t stomach killing someone she spent time with instead opting it on self defense. This is one of her flaws as the judgement character and it’s a fantastic one since the entire game she’s usually on your side. That’s why her genocide is depressing because everything crumbles on her reality when she realises everything is her fault and could’ve been avoided if she dealt with Clover later.
IIRC, Sans' judgements come from him reading Frisk's face and also watching them.
@@AwesomeGamer-om4hmThe point stands. Sans knows about the time travel shenanigans and judge you based in them, knowing that you always could have choose a better outcome. Martlet do not.
@@AwesomeGamer-om4hm He also knows about game mechanics a lot and time stuff. He is also basically always watching/observing u/etc. (like u said), even on Geno.
OP's points still (basically) completely stand imo.
@@Naluh This, exactly.
@@Dragon_Aoi @Naluh
Sans is most likely NOT a timeline traveller. Sure, he's aware that alternate timelines exist, but he doesn't know what's in them. He does observe Frisk during the game, so him knowing if Frisk did mostly good or bad isn't a surprise. However knowing LV and EXP is a little suspicious, so he might know more about the world than expected, but he probably wouldn't get it from hopping through timelines.
Also, @AwesomeGamer-om4hm wasn't trying to disprove OP's point, they were just adding on to it.
The difference in her reactions to your “betrayal” are heartwrenching. With low LV, she dies wondering why you’d do such a thing, she was so confident Clover was a good kid. with high LV she dies with regret in her heart, she had a backup plan and threw it away, and mere moments after doing so she’s killed for it. From her POV, there’d be no other way of looking at things. Such a good take on the “judgement scene”, UTY’s dialogue is so great.
But, why does she think Clover did it if flowey killed her
The only thing that rlly pisses me off is that flowey stabs her from BEHIND, NOT IN THE FRONT. so why would she even think clover betrayed her if he couldn't have been the one to kill her?!?!
@@AverageBaconW exactly
@@AverageBaconWshe doesn’t know much about humans, it’s my theory
@@AverageBaconW She never saw Flowey. It was just those two up there, who else could do it? Along with the fact that Clover did kill, and the fact that every time Clover tried to fight Martlet, she ran away. Clover would need a surprise attack like that to get her
So many birbs were hurt on the procudction of this video
I know and getting shot in genocide was probably the least painful. I wouldn't wanna imagine what getting impaled on a large thorn would feel like through the gut at that
Stop this ceaseless birb slaughter 😭
@@bird_obsession Stop doing neutral and genocide route and birb will be ok
Or in short KFC
Nah, just one.
Repeatedly.
2:16 "Just don't say I didn't warn you..." 💀
"Welp, I'm going to Grillby's"
- Flowey, probably
The skull emoji serves two purposes in this comment
@@leedlelel2373that's why its so genious
So many neutral runs, and yet, flowey doesnt ever think once (after the first neutral run ofc) that "hmm... maybe i should kill martlet before clover gets here so that we can actually get to asgore."
Right? he could’ve easily done it before Clover reached the top of the building as to not shatter Clover’s illusion of Flowey being the good guy 😂.
@@cbaha4985 i can understand this happening on the first uty neutral run, but it doesnt make sense on the next neutral runs, like, flowey has the power to reload, he could easily take martlet out, only reloading if he fucks up
@@dylanzlol7293the problem is clover can rember the loads, and in the moment notice flowey load for "no reason" clover no gonna trust in flowey and all plan go to trash and again neutral ending
@@gabrielmbx9253 but that doesnt make sense because if clover remembered, then why does clover say nothin when flowey kills martlet in future neutral runs in canon uty? Surely they could tell martlet to watch out or jump up if they did remember, but they dont, meaning that clover cant remember. And so the idea of killing martlet before clover can get there after the first neutral run would still work
@@dylanzlol7293 beacuse after the moment flowey kill marlet, flowey absorb clover soul and after this flowey reset, and clover cant remeber the resets, only the loads
Sans doesn't believe that even the worst person can change.
Martlet does(except in genocide)
They do the same thing, let you go if you haven't killed every single person there.
Papyrus does too.
@@JezElectro13 martlet is just a copy of papyrus
…you do realise that sans doesn’t care if you’re a mass murderer, as long as you leave his brother alone right? i feel like sans is more forgiving than martlet.
@@blueback999 No, if you only kill his brother he still won't attack you.
the undertale yellow creators know how to give a giant backstab and twist the knife right on our hearts
"Hall of Judgement" but with a blue bird instead of a funny skeleton and near the CORE
Dw about missing the abort genocide scene, everyone makes mistakes and it’s not a big deal. But hey, at least you got all of them now 😃
It's interesting. On every neutral route, martlet just can't bring herself to attack clover, even in the situations where she thinks she really should... just like clover. On aborted no mercy routes, clover just will not attack martlet. It's only when you kill everyone in your path that clover can attack martlet. It's only when you instill clover with the doctrine of every monster being guilty that they are willing to kill martlet. And even then, they dig up memories during the fight to justify their violence. I like to think that the very first time Flowey messed with the switches to make clover fall into the dark ruins, they got the pacifist ending, and that it's only after rolling the dice over and over again that clover ever considers hurting someone.
7:46 - this legit makes me wonder what would happen if you COULD shoot her here. 😶
Im think you cant decide, becuase clover decide no shoot marlet, and in the game eveey time clover take the final decision
@@gabrielmbx9253"eveey"
I hate when Flowey kills her
GUNHAT
I REMEMBER YOU'RE
NOT KILLING ASGORES
Noooooooo
I enjoy the increasing skepticism in her choices as it works up to genocide run but still never rules out people can change for the better
Dude, there's one more. You can get 0 exp by killing a robot in steamworks and she will have unique dialogue.
It's the same as LV 1-2 in the video, I just done a double check
@@ViolettaFG welp, there's a video on TH-cam, search "0 exp martlet judgement" - completely different dialogue.
@@ДенисБоричевский-н1р I just watch that video, saw no difference
Can you tell me what the dialogue is supposed to be?
@@ViolettaFGmy bad. Guess they patchnoted that, it was different when you had ANY exp rather than not
I said this on another video, but do you think she even grabbed the vial on pacifist? Cause like… she doesn’t even mention it. Either she didn’t grab it because you hadn’t hurt a single monster, or she still did, but threw it out maybe once axis was spared before you even meet her, cuz like… she CLEARLY didn’t need it? It’s up in the air, and the player can kinda make their best guess on the situation.
Before Undertale Yellow had begun, Martlet grabbed the vial. You saw that memory of her being in Hotland, going into the True Lab to get it, right? That's in the past, and nothing we do in the game can change that because it already happened.
In Pacifist, the likely possibilities of what happened to the vial are either she threw it away offscreen or she kept it in herself, but never bothered bringing up the subject because... what's the point?
@@GlitchedPhidoes that memory really happen in past tho? It would make more sense if it happened during UTY cause she wouldn't have any reason of stealing the vial and risking herself to get fired for it if it was before Clover arrived.
@@crazymartin526She had the job guarding the royal scientist in the past, she says as such during the boat ride. She likely grabbed it due to the Integrity Soul's near-killing of Dalv and Kanako and actual killing of various unnamed monsters, along with Chujin's (somewhat understandable) racism towards humans, making her worry about what would happen if another killer fell into the underground.
I love how the dialogue in the aborted genocide in the SW and the fact that in the fight agaisnt Zenith Martlet, she says that Clover has
accesed her memory searching a reason to hate her, to "justified" her death and that they didn't a reason for the rest implies
that clover does not really want to hurt her and once again were forcing them to hurt anything in our path AND that Clover could simply not hear Martlet in the snowdin encounter and still shoot her but them did not shoot (This happens too in the monologue that Martlet says to Clover before the final fight, they point at her and could simply shoot but once again they didn't and prefer to listened like hoping that she sacped or do something else) All of this implies too that of all the monster Clover has an especial conexion with Martlet.
But specially if we not force them until nobody came they inmediatly snap out of that "Shoot no think" mentality meaning that deep down they really now that's not justice
I had a stroke reading that
@@Morbidly_obese_crocodile Sorry inglish is not my mother lenguage so it's a bit hard expressing all of that without the traductor xd
@@vortexletl292 it's ok! It's not that bad
clover only kills people who choose to fight him or get in his way, so, in a way, what clover does is just
he does go out of his way to hunt for monsters but again they are choosing to fight him, like he could kill Dina but he doesn't because she doesn't get in the way
@@Vikt-vg8nz the reason is cause monsters are usually can't be harmed unless they initiate a battle.
If someone gets in your way killing them Is fine?
Yes they are choosing to fight him because I'm pretty sure monster can't run from fights so they have to fight back
i think she still says "why would you" if you say okay with high lv
She doesn't.
I find that "I sense an alarming aura in you" part to make no sense if you abort genocide during Marlet to before Ceroba fight. Its pretty obvious about what Clover had done.
2:05 in their defense why would you even position yourself in that spot?
Thank you for sharing this!
Th death of Martlet in neutral run always makes me so sad😭😭😭😭😭😊
Roof of Judgement.
Monsters in Undertale are so naturally forgiving and kindhearted. They don’t discriminate between their kind, and there is no apparent sexism or racism or homophobia or anything within their communities. It puts humanity to shame. I wish we had a society like there where we all are kind to each other..
All right, you say there's no sexism.Then why did they overthrow torial in one of the endings Sounds sexist to me.
@@NatetheNintendofan They didn’t do it because she’s a woman, it’s because they dislike one of her rules.
@@NatetheNintendofandid you forget the context of why they did it? it depends a lot on what happened during that neutral run and on some they don’t overthrow her since it wouldn’t make sense to. also they never talked anything about gender and if toriel gets overthrown but undyne gets crowned empress she doesn’t get overthrown either despite them both being women
You are a shame to humanity
@@NatetheNintendofanAh yes, a female overthrowing another female’s rule is clearly sexism…
bro really just sees us slap a monster once and opens the steroids drawer
It sucks we don’t get a neutral route asgore battle
One guy did fanmade battle with Asgore.
Note:
The ending is kinda similar to Flawed Pacifist.
clover... i remember you're genocides
Although martlets dialogue sound is a bit annoying to me, I love martlet to death
You question if in true pasifist Clover died would you be fine with fussing with him.
marlet just let me fight ASGORE I don't want to live with you oh my god🙁🙁🙁🙁LEVEJEBENEHEJEHEHEVEBEBEBEBE
Literally me -v0
If anyone wants there heart shattered from the pacifist route go do the neutral route!
May I ask a question? Is "Vengeful Virgil" boss fight real?(It's a page of Undertale Yellow famdom wiki)
The page has no citations or in-battle sprites, plus "Also known as that f**ker" and the "virgil is in your house" trivia fact, so I'm going to assume it's a troll.
guess he needs more power
@@iamstuckinmywallsWhere's your motivation?
No. Use the Wikigg version of the page, we left Fandom ages ago.
Vengeful Virgil is a minor NPC with a small story role as the "villain" of a comedic event in the Wild East. You can interact with him a few times and he has more dialogue than some other minor NPCs, but you never fight him.
Do you repent? Or do you continue, without a hint of remorse?
Why do you keep skipping the dialogue so quickly?
On a vídeo that the main point is Reading It should be a slower pace@@intenseterreriafan4708
I think there is also xpless dialoge if im not wrong
thats... pacifist?
@@willowstarfruit12345 you can kill robots they dont give xp and it makes neutral
but Ceroba is already with you
@@f1reflam3 yes but she doesnt stop you from killing
@@majszal3364 I meant you're locked into the pacifist ending
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They merged Papyrus and Sans into 1 character, clever.
Most pacifist run: You found me (smiley face) Great!
Neutral run: You got my message (normal face, smiley face instead if 1-2). Great (added on if 1-2)
Abort Genocide/Genocide: Ah so you found me (irritated)
Is there any chance you can include Flowey's dialogue that coincide Martlet's Judgement after he killed her? I felt there are missing dialogues from Flowey to complete the judgement
No, all exactly the same
@@ViolettaFGI remember him saying some stuff in aborted genocide in steamworks liek “no redemption for ur actions f-“ that he swapped it in casual neutral playthroughs
@@ViolettaFG no, I’m certain that flowey said different, like when flowey said to clover about he was worried about him getting stronger before “dodging the bullet” when he was close to reaching to LV 19 or how flowey is tired of putting up the nice guy persona before finally let out the killer instinct when Clover is around LV 10
is this what headphones with no stereo sound like
its horrible
wait no the music sounds like stereo why does martlet sound weird
@@gamertypeawesome idk, I tried to fix it
Could you give me some feedback on my recent videos?
Lore of Undertale yellow all Marlet judgements momentum 100
This video came back to life, somehow?