It really was something that Bruce needed to hear to rein him in, that he couldn't just take some kid in and not be responsible for them. Alfred was truly a great father to Bruce and the Robins. He was always there to mediate and correct.
@painvillegaming4119 "They would have been dead without him". Use common sense bro, how is man who is supposed to be busy training, studying, recovering, and upgrading his gears for crime fighting while he also owns one of the biggest companies in gotham city gonna have time for some 8 year old. Face it bro, Robin is the dumbest shit ever. There's not gonna be a stable relationship here any time soon because nothing about the relationship makes any sense.
@@painvillegaming4119 A grown man taking an 8 year old to fught crime is never gonna have a stable relationship with the kid. They aren't doing anything. The comics all just point out how stupid Batman's actions really are.
I guess that's just how the world works. 🤣 The oldest child is an experiment, you try your hardest and test different parenting methods and you are strict. With the second one, you think that you are already an expert in raising children, so you, so to speak, let go of the leash a little which is often also an experiment and have different consequences. And you can handle the rest because you have experience now.
I do think it would be interesting to hear Alfred's perspective about the first time Bruce chose to have Dick insist to become Robin since while I imagine Alfred thought the idea of Bruce adopting an orphan child would be good for him, I do wonder if it sometimes stresses Alfred out that he letting Bruce take responsibility over raising Dick while also training Dick as a crime-fighting vigilante superhero at such a young age and could easily be killed without proper training and mentorship
@ nobody call them child soldiers beside you know the actual super villains who want to get into they're heads Also want to know the funny part Alfred didn't just sit by even endorsed tim drake becoming robin 😊 Merry Christmas again
@painvillegaming4119 Batman has called them child soldiers. He also refers to his mission as a war against crime and corruption. Batman and Robin comic has Bruce defend child endangerment by saying that "no war spears a child." Robin is also referred to as a child by Louise in the recent Batman comic. Yes, the comics recognise they are child soldiers.
@ I knew you were gonna say this and I know which panel you're referring to am 99% sure you only saw the panel and never read the comic itself anyway Bruce has said they aren't child soldiers But correct that they're his family dismissing your narrative (literally as close as the failsafe arc...) The comics refer to them as children because they're young but they are way more capable than any ordinary child but I don't need to say that part out loud Yeah, Bruce fights a war on crime...and? That is how he referred to the fight for justice and? Honestly, you yourself are fighting an unwinnable fight because the comics shall always go out of their way to ridicule your narrative
Bruce took in Dick to help him get justice for his parents, but I don't think Bruce ever really realised that this 8 year old acrobat was now looking to him as a father figure. As a result he didn't know how to handle him, as not only is Dick his first, but Bruce barely got to be a kid himself, so it's not like he's got a lot of experience.
@ Wanna start naming the issues? They had they're differences But no matter how much you want to argue Nightwing loves Bruce and referees to him as his father Also merry Christmas even if it a day late
@ conflict is the heart of story telling not they're faults the writers have one story to tell Also yeah they have a falling out but whenever either of them is I. Trouble they run to help out each other no second thought they're family
Alfred Is the only person who knows bruce inside and out, he's been his number one supporters and stayed one, calling him the heart of the bat family is not just words, despite his calm demeanor he can be very serious sometimes, in his own way he does his best to make sure bruise doesn't cross the line, he may be batman but he's still the person and a person makes mistakes, the best thing about having him around is he he gets to call him out on it, even if he doesn't know it himself
@@Rengokuo4o6 for someone who hates Batman and the batfamily You sure as hell really like spending time complaining about them Merry Christmas by the way
Have you read "What If...? Dark: Spider-Gwen?" It's basically the Brooklyn Bridge incident, but it was Spider-Man who dies saving Gwen rather than Gwen dying. This causes her to become Spider-Woman, and she is powerless and was kind of vengeful, (tangentially) similar to Bruce Wayne (initially).
Hold up, I saw julia penny worth... what was that about? I get that ya know family Dynamic and stuff but what's a Realtive to my G.O.A.T. Alfred doing?
You would think that Batman of all people would have the wisdom to recognise that his mission and life is not suitable for raising a kid. You would think he would have the maturity to recognise this and get Dick better help. Instead he went with the stupid idea of teaching Robin everything he knew, giving Robin all his resources and having Robin live with him and emulate all his decisions hoping that doing all these things will somehow not make Dick like Him. The cognitive dissonance is wild.
Actually, he did a pretty Good Job at making dick not end up like him. Nightwing is often considered by the DC universe to be the best thing batman ever did. So yeah, Bruce fumbled but in the end it worked out pretty well.
@@Rengokuo4o6 you do know the comics straight up disagree with you And keep reaffirming they Nightwing isn't Bruce Like you fighting a battle that you ain't gonna win here bro
@@painvillegaming4119 The comics disagrees with me? So? The comics keeps pushing the bullshit narrative because they have to justify child endangerment. Batman is a vigilante and guess Dick goes on to become? That's right, a vigilante. They both live the same lives essentially. Batman didn't make Dick different at all.
It really was something that Bruce needed to hear to rein him in, that he couldn't just take some kid in and not be responsible for them. Alfred was truly a great father to Bruce and the Robins. He was always there to mediate and correct.
When your Grandad has to pull your dad aside
Ah yes, the beginning of some of the best yet also worst family dynamics of all time
Can they please let Bruce have a stable relationship with his loved ones ?
Sylau
@@painvillegaming4119 no it doesn't make money
@painvillegaming4119
"They would have been dead without him".
Use common sense bro, how is man who is supposed to be busy training, studying, recovering, and upgrading his gears for crime fighting while he also owns one of the biggest companies in gotham city gonna have time for some 8 year old.
Face it bro, Robin is the dumbest shit ever. There's not gonna be a stable relationship here any time soon because nothing about the relationship makes any sense.
@@painvillegaming4119
A grown man taking an 8 year old to fught crime is never gonna have a stable relationship with the kid. They aren't doing anything. The comics all just point out how stupid Batman's actions really are.
The first thug to mention Zucco: OH GOD! WHAT IS THIS KID? Batman are you raising feral attack children?! The hell is wrong with you?!
@@navandozer that is hilarious
The funny thing is this
Batman was too strict with Dick
He wasn’t strict enough with Jason
But he found a good middle ground for both Damien and Tim
@@shadewolf0075 lore accurate family relationship
I guess that's just how the world works. 🤣
The oldest child is an experiment, you try your hardest and test different parenting methods and you are strict.
With the second one, you think that you are already an expert in raising children, so you, so to speak, let go of the leash a little which is often also an experiment and have different consequences.
And you can handle the rest because you have experience now.
A reminder that Richard used to be the crash out Robin
Still can be ... everyone thinks it's the others but Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne are just younger than him.
@ only Bruce Jason Alfred and the titans know about how much of a menace that kid used to be
I do think it would be interesting to hear Alfred's perspective about the first time Bruce chose to have Dick insist to become Robin since while I imagine Alfred thought the idea of Bruce adopting an orphan child would be good for him, I do wonder if it sometimes stresses Alfred out that he letting Bruce take responsibility over raising Dick while also training Dick as a crime-fighting vigilante superhero at such a young age and could easily be killed without proper training and mentorship
@@milkiassamuel780 and then Bruce proceed to bring in a new kid every couple of years
I love the Batfamily so damn much
@@painvillegaming4119
And Alfred just shuts up as Bruce essentially starts his child soldier training camp.
@ nobody call them child soldiers beside you know the actual super villains who want to get into they're heads
Also want to know the funny part Alfred didn't just sit by even endorsed tim drake becoming robin 😊
Merry Christmas again
@painvillegaming4119
Batman has called them child soldiers. He also refers to his mission as a war against crime and corruption. Batman and Robin comic has Bruce defend child endangerment by saying that "no war spears a child."
Robin is also referred to as a child by Louise in the recent Batman comic.
Yes, the comics recognise they are child soldiers.
@ I knew you were gonna say this and I know which panel you're referring to am 99% sure you only saw the panel and never read the comic itself anyway
Bruce has said they aren't child soldiers
But correct that they're his family dismissing your narrative (literally as close as the failsafe arc...) The comics refer to them as children because they're young but they are way more capable than any ordinary child but I don't need to say that part out loud
Yeah, Bruce fights a war on crime...and? That is how he referred to the fight for justice and?
Honestly, you yourself are fighting an unwinnable fight because the comics shall always go out of their way to ridicule your narrative
Bruce took in Dick to help him get justice for his parents, but I don't think Bruce ever really realised that this 8 year old acrobat was now looking to him as a father figure. As a result he didn't know how to handle him, as not only is Dick his first, but Bruce barely got to be a kid himself, so it's not like he's got a lot of experience.
@@dazzlethestar151 Nightwing will still argue that he did great
@@painvillegaming4119
No, Nightwing essentially calls him a bad father. That's why they usually end up separated.
@
Wanna start naming the issues? They had they're differences
But no matter how much you want to argue
Nightwing loves Bruce and referees to him as his father
Also merry Christmas even if it a day late
@@painvillegaming4119
He loves him so much that they've had falling outs with each other constantly over. Yeah sure buddy.
@ conflict is the heart of story telling not they're faults the writers have one story to tell
Also yeah they have a falling out but whenever either of them is I. Trouble they run to help out each other no second thought they're family
Alfred Is the only person who knows bruce inside and out, he's been his number one supporters and stayed one, calling him the heart of the bat family is not just words, despite his calm demeanor he can be very serious sometimes, in his own way he does his best to make sure bruise doesn't cross the line, he may be batman but he's still the person and a person makes mistakes, the best thing about having him around is he he gets to call him out on it, even if he doesn't know it himself
alfred is pretty much js robins 2nd dad
*“Alfred wasn’t always the best father…!”* that’s a first
Robin made the Robin cave
Instead of Batmobile he got ice cream
My heart doesn't wanna believe he's a bad father 😭
He isn't but neither Bruce or Alfred are perfect and they did what they could for these kids
@@painvillegaming4119
No they didn't. What they could would have included getting them a better help.
@@Rengokuo4o6 for someone who hates Batman and the batfamily
You sure as hell really like spending time complaining about them
Merry Christmas by the way
Because he isn't a bad father XD
Have you read "What If...? Dark: Spider-Gwen?" It's basically the Brooklyn Bridge incident, but it was Spider-Man who dies saving Gwen rather than Gwen dying. This causes her to become Spider-Woman, and she is powerless and was kind of vengeful, (tangentially) similar to Bruce Wayne (initially).
Oh look at that it's the slade button 😂😂
Bruce would unfortunately not learn this lesson for 3 more Robins after this
Dan, you need to read the new Wonder Woman that came out today. By the Great Mother Circe, Diana is hard-core!
Have you ever read home sick pilots
What issue is this?
Batman
Hold up, I saw julia penny worth... what was that about? I get that ya know family Dynamic and stuff but what's a Realtive to my G.O.A.T. Alfred doing?
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You would think that Batman of all people would have the wisdom to recognise that his mission and life is not suitable for raising a kid. You would think he would have the maturity to recognise this and get Dick better help.
Instead he went with the stupid idea of teaching Robin everything he knew, giving Robin all his resources and having Robin live with him and emulate all his decisions hoping that doing all these things will somehow not make Dick like Him.
The cognitive dissonance is wild.
Actually, he did a pretty Good Job at making dick not end up like him. Nightwing is often considered by the DC universe to be the best thing batman ever did.
So yeah, Bruce fumbled but in the end it worked out pretty well.
@@Rengokuo4o6 you do know the comics straight up disagree with you
And keep reaffirming they Nightwing isn't Bruce
Like you fighting a battle that you ain't gonna win here bro
Comics push loads of bullshit all the time.
That the comics disagree with me doesn't mean there is no cognitive dissonance.
@@painvillegaming4119
The comics disagrees with me? So?
The comics keeps pushing the bullshit narrative because they have to justify child endangerment.
Batman is a vigilante and guess Dick goes on to become? That's right, a vigilante. They both live the same lives essentially. Batman didn't make Dick different at all.