Oxygen levels is fine, pure oxygen doesn't burn, the fuel of the fire is the trace volatiles, and the ignition source is the wall heater. BUT because the volatiles levels are so extremely low, the fire is more of a visual thing, and it looks scarier than it is. Visually it's a big scary fireball, but in reality it's just a very tiny chemical reaction that didn't even manage to heat the room up 😄i would bet it's perfectly safe to just let it burn itself out.
@@CT-1035 man ive had numerous massive fires that never damaged anything.. the thing is the panic that occurs... just shut off the heat source and try vent the air in a controlled manor. i once lost my base not because everything was on fire, but because i opened my airlock and the massive movement of air into unpressurized area basically incinerated everything.. that or i was an idiot and there was more volatiles that time
Well. You had the opportunity to set a permanent flame on Europa and connect it to a massive steel skull that's shooting it out of it's mouth. But yeah, ok, atmospherics woo.
yes the N2O is good for mixing with H2 at a 1:1 ratio to make a better and cleaner burning fuel mixture for reaching higher temperatures in the furnace with less risk of it blowing up... or for making a knockout gas mixture to prank your friends in multiplayer.
For your filtration, it's better if they are set in parallel, connect the unfiltered pipes to the main input pipes, that way if some filters are exhausted you have more buffer to avoid blowing your overpressured pipes up. NOS is an oxydizer, like Oxygen, you can use it to make fuel in a ratio 1:1 with Volatiles, it's the most efficient fuell BTW. Wall heaters consume lot of energy, there is a very cheap system to heat up in Europa...your furnace, some pìpes and radiators...or do like me, a fuel generator inside your room, energy and heat in one go XD
I've had that setup for the filters bug out on me a few times in the past and bypass the filters completely. I know this setup is riskier, but I don't mind babysitting it a bit because I know it works. We're also not actively capturing any gas, and I only plan to add it manually, so there's currently no real risk of overpressurisation. There are many ways to play the game. Also good to know about NOS. It was added since I last played so I wasn't sure how they'd implemented it! If it's got a use we might as well capture it and stick it outside to stay cold.
Nos is an oxidiser. As far as i know the reason why it produces more power in the engine is probably becouse you need less of it compared to air to burn same amount of gas. You need 25 parts of air for 1 part of gas btw. And compressing 25kg of air is a shit ton of work. So you will want to use any remedy that lets you not do that. Nos is one of those.
Since the ores were dig out outside they shouldn't be at absolute zero. They should be the outside temperature. Maybe slightly warmer since they sat in the ground.
The average O2 levels on planet earth are like 19% and 80% N2 (which is as far as I know inert), which is why we dont set our atmosphere ablaze when lighting a cigar. Just checked on google, circa 21% O2 and 78% N2. So yes, you were setting the atmosphere ablaze, which is pretty epic actually.
@@LargelyUnemployed Just did some reading to check my facts. Oxygen itself doesnt burn but it helps other materials burn. The higher the O2% the easier combustible things are ignited and the stronger they burn (how that is in Stationeers, no clue). 23% O2 content can create fire hazards IRL, so I guess your 90% O2 atmo in game has the same effect as pouring gasoline over everything in the room. @Gonzalo Martinez has information on how it works in Stationeers (in his reply to EggWardo).
yup you had the O2 mix to high so it was igniting, 25%/75% mix O2 to N2 at 101 KPa should do it, but really only 10% O2 is the minimum you need to breath in game I think, as for heating they have improved the way the Air Conditioner works so I tend to use one of those to regulate the room temp, though it does work less well the higher the temperature difference is.
You can have 100% Oxygen in Stationeers and it will not combust, the problem is the volatiles in both rooms, some temperature and volatiles + oxidizer = combustion, that's the reason the welder, wall heaters or machines ignited the room. He must get rid of volatiles in the atmosphere.
I've been trying this in my base but instead of putting 100 kpa of mixed gas into my pipe it just kept pumping till my nitrogen tank was empty and the pipe with mixed air was well over 12Mpa. Not really sure why..
The fuel mixer will just keep pumping gas into the pipe in front of it until you run out of gasses to mix. If you want to control it you'll need some logic chips. -A Pipe analyser to read the pressure in front. -A Logic memory chip to store the desired pressure (in your case 100). - Logic reader to read the actual pressure value in the pipe from the analyser. -A logic processor unit (build the compare one 'compare' ) that checks if the pipe pressure is lower than the memory value you set. -A logic writer set to take the result from the compare unit, write to the gase mixer, use the variable "on".
@@LargelyUnemployed thanks man. I'm going to do things like that going forward. I've slapped a brute force bandaid on the problem using a regulator on the output of the mixer. I'm not in front of the game right now but I think it let me attach it without a pipe in between so that way it's essentially slaved to the regulator. But maybe I'm wrong and there's a pipe there happily on its way to bursting. We'll find out when I login to check 🤣
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Oxygen levels is fine, pure oxygen doesn't burn, the fuel of the fire is the trace volatiles, and the ignition source is the wall heater. BUT because the volatiles levels are so extremely low, the fire is more of a visual thing, and it looks scarier than it is. Visually it's a big scary fireball, but in reality it's just a very tiny chemical reaction that didn't even manage to heat the room up 😄i would bet it's perfectly safe to just let it burn itself out.
So what you're saying is that we need a bigger fire.
@@LargelyUnemployedremember, not too big or you wouldn’t be able to see anything
@@CT-1035 man ive had numerous massive fires that never damaged anything..
the thing is the panic that occurs... just shut off the heat source and try vent the air in a controlled manor.
i once lost my base not because everything was on fire, but because i opened my airlock and the massive movement of air into unpressurized area basically incinerated everything..
that or i was an idiot and there was more volatiles that time
yes more than 35% oxidizer (Oxygen or N2O ) is dangerous for combustion in atmosphere.
Well.
You had the opportunity to set a permanent flame on Europa and connect it to a massive steel skull that's shooting it out of it's mouth.
But yeah, ok, atmospherics woo.
Listen, we'll have time to appease the elder gods once we can reliably eat lunch
Speaking as a cultist, that seems like an awfully shortsighted way to go about it. xD
yes the N2O is good for mixing with H2 at a 1:1 ratio to make a better and cleaner burning fuel mixture for reaching higher temperatures in the furnace with less risk of it blowing up... or for making a knockout gas mixture to prank your friends in multiplayer.
For your filtration, it's better if they are set in parallel, connect the unfiltered pipes to the main input pipes, that way if some filters are exhausted you have more buffer to avoid blowing your overpressured pipes up.
NOS is an oxydizer, like Oxygen, you can use it to make fuel in a ratio 1:1 with Volatiles, it's the most efficient fuell BTW.
Wall heaters consume lot of energy, there is a very cheap system to heat up in Europa...your furnace, some pìpes and radiators...or do like me, a fuel generator inside your room, energy and heat in one go XD
I've had that setup for the filters bug out on me a few times in the past and bypass the filters completely. I know this setup is riskier, but I don't mind babysitting it a bit because I know it works. We're also not actively capturing any gas, and I only plan to add it manually, so there's currently no real risk of overpressurisation.
There are many ways to play the game.
Also good to know about NOS. It was added since I last played so I wasn't sure how they'd implemented it! If it's got a use we might as well capture it and stick it outside to stay cold.
Love your vibes!
Thank you! Having a lot of fun with this one
Nos is an oxidiser. As far as i know the reason why it produces more power in the engine is probably becouse you need less of it compared to air to burn same amount of gas. You need 25 parts of air for 1 part of gas btw. And compressing 25kg of air is a shit ton of work. So you will want to use any remedy that lets you not do that. Nos is one of those.
Since the ores were dig out outside they shouldn't be at absolute zero. They should be the outside temperature. Maybe slightly warmer since they sat in the ground.
The average O2 levels on planet earth are like 19% and 80% N2 (which is as far as I know inert), which is why we dont set our atmosphere ablaze when lighting a cigar.
Just checked on google, circa 21% O2 and 78% N2. So yes, you were setting the atmosphere ablaze, which is pretty epic actually.
Very cool that's its implemented! I've never run into the issue before, so I assumed that was what was happening but wasn't sure.
@@LargelyUnemployed Just did some reading to check my facts. Oxygen itself doesnt burn but it helps other materials burn. The higher the O2% the easier combustible things are ignited and the stronger they burn (how that is in Stationeers, no clue). 23% O2 content can create fire hazards IRL, so I guess your 90% O2 atmo in game has the same effect as pouring gasoline over everything in the room.
@Gonzalo Martinez has information on how it works in Stationeers (in his reply to EggWardo).
21:11 NOS = nitro or speedboost in car games
yup you had the O2 mix to high so it was igniting, 25%/75% mix O2 to N2 at 101 KPa should do it, but really only 10% O2 is the minimum you need to breath in game I think, as for heating they have improved the way the Air Conditioner works so I tend to use one of those to regulate the room temp, though it does work less well the higher the temperature difference is.
You can have 100% Oxygen in Stationeers and it will not combust, the problem is the volatiles in both rooms, some temperature and volatiles + oxidizer = combustion, that's the reason the welder, wall heaters or machines ignited the room. He must get rid of volatiles in the atmosphere.
I keep to a N2 70%, O2 20% and CO2 10% mix, (or variables close to)
I've been trying this in my base but instead of putting 100 kpa of mixed gas into my pipe it just kept pumping till my nitrogen tank was empty and the pipe with mixed air was well over 12Mpa. Not really sure why..
The fuel mixer will just keep pumping gas into the pipe in front of it until you run out of gasses to mix. If you want to control it you'll need some logic chips.
-A Pipe analyser to read the pressure in front.
-A Logic memory chip to store the desired pressure (in your case 100).
- Logic reader to read the actual pressure value in the pipe from the analyser.
-A logic processor unit (build the compare one 'compare' ) that checks if the pipe pressure is lower than the memory value you set.
-A logic writer set to take the result from the compare unit, write to the gase mixer, use the variable "on".
@@LargelyUnemployed thanks man. I'm going to do things like that going forward. I've slapped a brute force bandaid on the problem using a regulator on the output of the mixer. I'm not in front of the game right now but I think it let me attach it without a pipe in between so that way it's essentially slaved to the regulator. But maybe I'm wrong and there's a pipe there happily on its way to bursting. We'll find out when I login to check 🤣
@@LargelyUnemployed glad we had this tedtalk. Went back to look and there was a pipe overpressurising in between. Logic it is!
I mean you did whanted to heat the room up well what better way than a flame thrower eh
Honestly, you make a great point
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Oi do you have a job yet?
Nah, doing this full time while I study French to improve my chances at a gig in Europe 👀