How to Buffer Coco Coir for Hydroponics
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2022
- Hoocho shows us How to Ammend Coco for Hydroponics
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Your channel is without a doubt the best hydroponics channel I've seen on youtube. Very accurate and scientific information, going deep on the fundamental, as well as a lot of hand-on practical approaches. Keep up the great work.
I must agree
I also agree 🎉
it explains why a lot of hydroponic setups fail...good work!
Excellent video Hoocho. Clear explanation.
Thanks for this video. You've mentioned "hydro-grade coco" often but I didn't have access to it. Now I know what to do. Thanks again! (Utah, USA)
Ahh the Bunnings bucket... I've heard the tales of this bucket and its glorious aura but am yet to bask in it myself, you truly are a man of culture. (also really enjoying your channel mate, got me from absolute beginner to slightly less of a beginner so far and will continue watching every vid
I bought a block of 'unwashed' coco years ago.. The main issue was it contained a high amount salt 1200ppm. One of the occupations of islanders is to find coconuts floating on the sea to earn a living, so that's probably how the salt came to be there. The plants had burning, no matter what i did, so I always get the pre-buffered/washed coco for seedlings now.
Pre-buffering of clay pebbles is sometimes necessary too, as they can be extremely alkaline. My technique is to add 10mls concentrate of H2SO4 or HCl to 6 litres of water to 5kg of pebbles in a 10L bucket and let them soak 4 days. Then tip out the buffer and replace it with tap water for 24 hours. Works a treat and never get any PH drifting after that.
By pebbles do you mean leca?
Most places where they grow coconut trees the don't have access to fresh water so they wash it in the nearby sea.
Thanks! very informative!! will keep it in mind when start my hidrophonic system
Not dry for me, an excellent video that answers everything you want to know around the coco growing media.
Damn interesting man! I would never had guessed that coco attracted positive ions like that. Thanks for sharing.
In Malaysia, our fertigation farmers are doing this. We're using CaN and MgS with 2:1 ratio.
2 kg CaN and 1 kg MgS mix in 600 gallon of water. Then dripped into cocopeat about 2L/H.
Every start of the planting season and once a month we drip it.
Very good to know! Thanks!
LOL the start... Sorry ... Great information here. I didn't even realize that you needed to do anything to the coco. Thanks for sharing this info with us.
Great stuff, you should do a video on the various options of medium that are ok to good to use for hydroponics.
Hey man. Great explanation. Thanks very much. Threw a sub your way for the effort. Cheers.
Good stuff. Thank you.
You could almost say you’re in love with the coco 😁😉
Thanks for this information. It may explain why I have been having such a hard time growing things in Coco coir. It would be helpful if you could include a link to the paper you referenced.
I can't wait for someone to put together a super-slide compilation.
Thanks for sharing
Your patreon link is quite low in your description, try chucking it up the top or at least higher to maximize eyes! Keep up the good work Hoocho!
"sorry about that"
Top notch Chad.
Keep on! Your channel is much more useful then what they're doing with their coco in their moms basement. 🍻
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@@Hoocho 🤜🤛
And the sellers of the Coco coir, bricks especially..?! Never even a tip on buffering..?!
I've just been soaking Coir bricks in hot water, then add some Cal-Mag when expanded, but still plenty of water present to mix it around. I then let it sit in that water for at least 2 days, then rinse out all excess Cal-Mag water.
I should have rinsed it out before adding Cal-Mag for a few days..?! Surprised I got some of it right, lol.
I mix it with Peat, EWC, and Perlite/Pumice, Dolomite Lime, etc, and no problems yet!👍💯
I play this at 1.75x speed. When you go back to regular speed it seems in slow motion. He talks very slowly.
aweeeesome! 👊
BIG DOG IS NOT DONE!! He's not going to finish the year until he's done what he needs to do! Hell yeah coco bro
We had a bad batch of the pinegro 'pre buffered' stuff that had some crazy high EC run off .. something to be cautious of
I have been using blocks of compressed coco, washed and ph adjusted
but I have still been getting bud end rot on some of my tomatoes
I traced the cause to calcium deficiency and had tried many things with my nutrient solution but still get it
I will give this a try but it sounds promising
Try adding recharge for that rott
If using the coir to build potting mix (not hydroponics) is the buffering still advised? Seems like it would bc those plants need calcium just as much as in hydroponics.
Kiss method. Good advice. TY
Thank you for the explanation. The Coco Bricks i bought were totally insane. EC of 5500. Salty af...
Is this Buffer Solution for Bricks or for Coco Peat that´s loose in a Bag ? I think Coco Peat from a Bag isn´t completely dry and has more weight than the Bricks that are dry as dust. PS: Great Channel 😎 Greetings from Switzerland.
Once I've transplanted, do I water with nutrients straight away for hydro or wait until it needs water as it is already hydrated?
good video my man
i use red rocks myself
you are making hydro harder, make it simple do the dwc bunnings video and more home brew stuff
So if we are making nutrient solution which is in other video should we reduce half of nitrocal when we are using this cocopeat which is buffered for the first time?
I bought hydro coco but still got BER. How can I rejuvenate last years used Coco please mate?
hi sir...i have a doubt
Why your not using magnesium nitrate with calcium nitrate for buffering?
Is there any cons for not using magnesium nitrate?
@hoocho What are the best best hydroponic solution that you can buy in Australia?
Awesome! Trying to buy calcium nitrate, but found calcium nitrogen, are they the same?
How often should I change the coco if I'm growing strawberry
do you have a link to the report of calcium nitrate on coco??
Hi , is the 5.5 kilograms of coco wet or dry ?
Interesting stuff, just at the right time (going to build Dutch Bucket system with coco this year). What I am wondering is the amount of Calcium nitrate in the products we use is ~25%. Shouldn't we quadruple the 100g per 1.5 kg?
The best answer to your question is to talk to a local farmer in your zone, if there are any local farmers left.
I live in a farming community, and they know how local factors as good as any scientist.
I assume this may be the reason Miracle Gro potting soil killed all my vegetables. In fact, most potting soils appear to be a horrible waste of money so far, and when I find a brand that works suddenly they change it. But thank you. This prevented me from buying a brick of this garbage.
Hey mate, any reason you didn’t add in any magnesium sulphate?
Wondering if that paper covered that. Magnesium has been in all the cocktails I've seen to buffer.
based on the paper you have mentioned, untreated coco has about 33, 14 and 3.5 cmol/kg K, Na and Ca respectively which are about 50 meq/100g coco altogether. I've heard before that CEC of coco is 50-100 meq/100g depending on the source. So the rest 0-50 meq/100g is of other cations. The recommended calcium nitrate is 100g/1.5kg coco which is about 80 meq/100g coco. Using this data and that ~70 and ~90% reduction in K and Na after buffering, the CEC of the sample can be modeled and calculated.
numbers are logical "if" that 100g calcium nitrate is anhydrous not tetrahydrated. so which one? anhydrous? I ask this because tetrauhydrated is more commonly available that anhydrous?
Hoocho, if you have to rehydrate a brick of compressed CoCo, do you use plain water or can we hydrate with the CN solution. TIA.
You’ll need to wash it first so hydrate with water soak a little and drain. Then go again with solution.
I’m a bit new to this buffering myself stuff as I’ve always bought buffered coco coir, I’ve got plenty of calcium nitrate so that’s no problem but why am I seeing other video’s adding magnesium nitrate?
Anyone have a link to the paper hoocho cites?
Hello, would you mind telling me how much one of these 30 litre bags of ready to use coco peat cost? Here in the states, a 50 litre bag of loose UNbuffered coco coir costs $35 USD. I wish I could find the equivalent to that Pine Gro Coco Peat over here!
the: everybody in my area has to deal with coco shortages really got me haha
for those without talent or printing equipment, are your caps and plastic pieces available for sale?
What if you were using potting mix would you have to do the same an that was amazing video clip you put together there off the coco there 👍👍
That's what I'm wondering too. I use a lot of coco coir this way but luckily have only had positive results.
If you are using a potting mix made to a standard (black ticks on the label for regular or red ticks on the label for premium) there should be no reason to amend the potting mix. If you were adding unamended coco to potting mix maybe but potting mix is not designed for hydroponics as it technically isn't classed as a "soil less " medium. Most potting mixes these days are based on a composted pine bark which will eventually compost further breaking down. This is noticeable when the level drops in pots as it decomposes.
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@@spirit210364 I do hydroponics and some people asked me to check him him. He seems very knowledgeable 👍🏾
Thanks for all your great videos. If I reuse my coco coir a second or third year, should I re-buffer the coir with the calcium each year?
Yes.
Can you reuse the calcium nitrate soup after using to buffer another batch of coco coir?
I wouldn’t, it would be contaminated with potassium and sodium
Do you need to buffer coconut coir if you're going to mix it with compost and organic fertilizers? Like for outdoor gardening and container gardening?
two years on on off growing with mixed results (so kind of just gardening I guess 😉) and I finally hear about this calcium deficiency. Came straight to Hoochos to find out what the go is and you didn't let me down
were are you? just to give me an idea of your area compared to mine, thanks mate and you have a great new year
between Brisbane and Bundaberg
thoughts on canna terra?
If I lived in your area i would camp out the night before at the big box hardware ;)
Run a drain to waste system and never worry about buffering or lockout issues
Wouldnt dolomite be a far cheaper way of achieving this, rather than adding calcium nitrate? If you are just going to rinse it all out at the end anyway.
Washing with hard water should do the job without additives. It's calcium and magnesium ions that make water hard. Any deep well or spring water from a limestone aquifer will be hard water.
"... Sorry about that 😂"
haha!
U will have all ya local blazers after your Coco now they know we're it's all going
Any word on Magnesium as well? Many add epsom salts to the soak. Had no idea it needed to be 36hrs, though.
I use calmag for my buffering soak
I've been growing in coco coir blocks for years. Yes, like hoocho said, use your grow mix. I use my part B ( cal nitrate) and mag sulfate mixed at 2.2 EC. I don't mix in any part A for the buffering soak. 24 hours later, drain and rinse. Rinse removes the exchanged Na, P, with excess N and S. It's now loaded with Ca and Mg and ready for plants. Buffering is particularly important for Calmag heavy crops such as cannabis.
Sir just one question after appling calcium nitrate and keep it for 36 hours then we must wash cocopeat with RO water...
Any water mate
Damn no wonder why I can't find any more of that coco peat from Bunnings you have been buying all the stock.
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"sorry about that"😂😂😂
so you dont need to add the calcium nitrate to your nutrients?
I am interested in hydro always have and probably will be but without proper knowledge of micronutrients and what they do for each plant and funghi and what they contribute mimicing natural habitats of plants (which is the ultimate goal, even if a certain plant is bred for hydro cultivation then still you will be steering towards a habitat just maybe X climate zone above/below /micro climate zone differences and pest resistance etc.). Hydro for food or anything you put into you body really is still a class 2/B product for me.
You need different elements and molecules that do interect with a plants root system to unlock the full potential, because the plant eats light and does not eat the nutrients, it is so important I feel like to understand that the plants food is light and not the nutrients.
I read this comment 3 times and still not sure what it is trying to say. Seems an awful lot like an attempt to view science through the lens of #thefeels. Hot tip: that approach doesn't work - science is fact-based, not feelings-based.
@@StumpyTales There is too little infomation on how micros and funghi affect the flavor and vitamin quality of fruits etc. You can have your hydro strawberries I'll pick my natural soil ones that are sweeter firmer and overall better. I grow both by the way. And funny that you mention it, if you would read any kind of recent articles publushed on nature and different universities you wou;d have known this conclusion is the best there is right now.
Try reading some articles published by WUR the best university when it comes to plants int he world, maybe you are still on outdated information.
Don't be a douhe please, I probably know more about agrivulture than you ever will.
@@revoltoff
Seems strange that you`d grow hydro strawberries if they were that bad.. The issue is most likely the nutrient you using for your hydro strawberries.
I thought the whole idea with hydroponics was soil less media and used a form of block to hold the plant and then just water, could you not use grass clippings or staw or Hay, or am I just looking at the wrong idea.
All that stuff would rot or mildew much more readily then coco coir.
5.5kg coco coir
55L water
350g Calcium Nitrate dissolved in what looks like about 5L hot water.
mix well
36 hours, drain the solution and now use the coir for seedlings.
Thank you Hoocho!
And I just came back and used these numbers to mix 11kg of coco coir into 110 litres of water and added 700g of Ca2NO3 in 10L hot water....
Again, Hoocho. Thank you. Thank you SO much for your information and your mastery.
The incredibly high cost of such a ready resource is why I don't use coco coir. It is way overpriced, and it is imported.
And it is harvested to the detriment of local environments, although recovered from monocultures already created. Monocultures, as we know are bad. Not going to help them.
Pine needles are far superior to coco coir, so a bonus. And, there is plenty of it, without hurting local ecosystems...it literally is laying on the ground and left over from logging.
No way PEAT is renewable, and getting scare due to over harvesting by home gardeners. You should try a product called GLEE. Made in the USA, which is likely 90% of your audience.
Love your channel. I reengineer most of what you show, as you do have great ideas. Keep them coming.
Is there such a product produced from pine needles ? How do they counter the acidifying nature of pine needles ?
Pine needles!?!
Great tip. Going to look it up as I live in a pine tree forest.
I hate buying anything wrapped in plastic.😊
So you're the one who keeps buying up all the coco peat. No wonder I can never find it.
WTF??? Ahhhhhh…. Now it makes sense why my F…N expensive seeds have a huge fail in germination. FU!!!K I’m beyond excited about the future of my growing. I’ve had many successful grows but for some reason this year I’ve purchased some new pricy auto flower seeds and 80% failed! Ship!!! It goes to show you that no matter how many times you’ve tried, theirs always something to learn. I watched the one where the guy, washes the cocoa, Pete off in the bathtub , a few years ago. I didn’t think much about it and I added CalMag in and used that. Ya I’m kicking myself, and since it’s a new year & a, new grow I’m going back to grow school, because it’s costed me a little bit, but it’s not the $$$ I’m 😩 bummed about, it’s the time I wasted, well also the few hundred I pisses away. So you guys can call me whatever you want because I deserve it, but maybe I saved you some time by not doing what I’ve done. Thanks again for this opportunity to learn more about my grows. I still have time to grow, & all isn’t lost.
As awesome as coco peat is I don't think you can call coco peat environmentally friendly, as the amount of resources used in washing out all the salt and processing it is intense! Also working conditions in the places that process it look absolutely terrible and must be taking a toll on the workers health (notice that the workers in the video are not even wearing masks and are probably breathing in a lifetime of coco dust particles every single day. Doesn't really seem like a very ethical product, I think thats a lie we tell ourselves to justify buying such an amazing media.
No hate towards your advice here, its amazing advice, but these days coco has almost tripled in price and I'd rather look at cheaper and more sustainable alternatives.
You'd also gotta wonder what native environment was altered to plant coconut trees just like palm sugar plantations. If you start talking carbon footprint coco would surely have a high footprint in anywhere but the region it is grown.
Now I know why I can't get it. Someone buys the lot
When you want to cite an academic paper, it would be valuable to provide your viewers a link to that paper, since you didn't mention use of Magnesium, which almost every site on the Internet that talks about coco buffering mentions.
Pause the video, it’s literally on the screen
Just a heads up, it's pronounced coir, not cior...
100g CalN per 1.5 kg seems a bit too much... I would not call this process environmentally friendly at all. from now on I'd rather use perlite.
Yeah I am over Coco as well. Getting BER on buffered Coco with my tomatoes is doing my head in. Can't just add more call mag because it fudges the EC.
@@jasonking852
Toms can cope with EC upto 5.0 so i wouldnt worry about adding Ca. Most of the time BER is caused by irregular watering, the uptake of Ca is driven mainly by transpiration.
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