Glen Stilson of Independence Training had the fastest Trooper-Armored with 151.32 seconds. Bryan Welch of We Plead the 2nd was 2nd with 153.40 seconds.
Big shout out to Sinistral, despite people calling you "fat", you stand above that. You crush these stages with armor on and desert sun burning you. You seem to be very eduacated, smart and funny. When you laughed at the 19:50 mark, i lost it. Have good one, i'm looking forward for day 2.
The paper stages clearly suit some shooters but not others. From a video viewer perspective I also find paper stages less interesting to watch - less reaction from the targets, more confusion as to what's what - much the same reasons, but without the pain :-) Thanks for presenting the match. Both of your shooting skills seems to be standing up well under the conditions.
I agree with the guys too many paper targets in weird positions for that last half. It felt tedious just watching it I can only imagine having to shoot them all. The shoot house looked fun even the wall but after that they could have stopped and it would have been a perfectly fine stage. Maybe start with the dummy and move it into the house just to get the exercise in there, instead of dragging if from cover into the open. It makes Karl's I hope you die have a different meaning.
@Karl - your closing credits remarks: they were my "Belfast 1975" revisited, except that the only place to go eat was the very basic troops diner (in a portakabin), the 'something to eat' was a DIY fried egg sandwich, and the 'Air B'n'B' was a bunk in a portakabin with anti-mortar mesh and sandbags on the roof. 24 hours, 2 hours patrolling, 2 hours in the base (patrol debrief, eat, sleep - briefly - wake, mug of tea, pre-patrol orders, 2 hours patrolling, rinse and repeat). Frankly, everybody kinda looked forward to a Contact, to break the goddam' monotony :-D
I'm so glad you offer commentary at the end of each stage. So many shooters just put up videos of the action without any discussion of it. It's always interesting to hear what you think afterwards. I'd love to do this match some day, but who knows if I'll ever be able to make it out west. Anyway, enjoyed the video and good shooting to both of you! Oh and Prolab caffeine tablets are flipping livesavers. I keep a bottle of those in my camping gear, at the office, and in each of my cars.
Good run guys. It looked like a fun run through. Reminds me of some of the silly stuff that we would have to do in the Army at some company level training events.
Physical condition is a very important part of combat . You guys both did pretty darn good ! Fatigue sucks .. but you guys looked like you were having fun .
N JJ yet the best scores on this stage didn’t require it. While I don’t prefer stages like this it doesn’t mean they’re bad designs. Historically Multigun matches with longer 5-10 minute stages have always had coaching. If that’s not your thing stick to venues with shorter 30-60 second stages.
I think what you’re not understanding is that on stages 1-4 where neither of us needed coaching, less experienced or lower skill level shooters did to remind them what to do next. Coaching is there to help people make it through and do things in the proper sequence if you need it. If you’re good you’ll never need it. If you need it you’ll probably want the help.
Coaching is actually prohibited in USPSA except at level 1 matches under very select circumstances. I think with this type of match though you can have the RO coaching and not hurt the "integrity" of the match or stage, as A VP says it does emphasize a different skill set.
I think Karl missed a step at the end when he was dumping his stuff in the car...Make sure you have the keys in your pocket, not a pouch on your belt or armor. ;-)
I feel like Karl's run was pretty good, considering. Shame about the slip on the wall, but the pistol shoothouse felt pretty fluid. Also the squeeky voiced supportive RO was cute. Good coaching on the rifle chunk. Sinistral did good, considering, at the wall! Awesome coaching by the RO. That all being said, this looks more brutal than the desert brutality. Not in the actual stages, really, but as you mentioned, just the amount of stuff in one day. Karl looks outright pissed. Hope that the second day was more enjoyable for you guys.
Helpful heath tip, if you have to have your caffeine in the form of a drink other than coffee, the zero calorie or low calorie drinks are actually worse for you than drinks with full sugar. The reason being is your bodies metabolism is increased due to the caffeine and is in need of calories. Also you are at a greater risk of kidney stones from the zero sugar since the sweetener they use in non digestible and will sit in your body longer than it is supposed to.
I suspect bringing a few squeeze bottles of honey or something similar with you to these events for a burst of energy as the day wears on is almost as important as lots of water as the day wears on in that heat. Who won the match?
A idea for the crapizine vid load the mag and then shot it from differant directions in slo mo for a scientific analysis would a round going through the loaded mag set off the rounds in it ? Like the dread chain fireing in a tube mag a good lead in to Your 19th Century lever action what if series
There is a reason why fitness is one of the primary things that are trained up, drilled in and emphasized in military (and even LEO) training. Regular, 3-5 times a week of intense cardio exercise (plus at least a bit of weights) if not something like Crossfit or similar training is *Invaluable* to a LEO/military to maintain mental and physical health. Regular exercise nearly always helps with sleep and if you combine it with a healthy diet, one's ability to handle stress and perform is dramatically, if not profoundly enhanced. Plus, if someone does all of these things as part of a general lifestyle, how they will operate in emergency situations, such as a shootout, is, once again, dramatically improved, something that has been studied extensively. If you have never done something like the above, you cannot understand how much being exhausted will affect performance, physical and mental, including firearm accuracy/firearm operation including things like clearing jams, etc. As an aside, realize that it looks pretty warm and doing all of these competitive events under the hot sun also has a large effect on any physical activity, forget firearms performance. Obviously Russell is more practiced and accomplished with his firearms of choice, but IMO fitness and carrying those extra pounds played a role in his ability to do well (especially as one gets older). I suspect that if running around, clearing obstacles, firing from various positions, etc., wasn't integral to the competition, he might have actually even won - his accuracy was quite astonishing, especially at longer ranges. That all said, I think these guys did pretty good, especially since neither are LEOs, nor current military, and aren't 19 years old. So, hats off ! It was really interesting to watch. .
Is there some way to know the evolution of the difference in score between armored divisions and non-armored divisions? It could be quite interesting to see how the weight of the armor affects shooting throughout the day. I would guess the more time passes the bigger the gap in score but how much?
Matthew Conner but that is just this stage isn't it? What about the entire day ? What interests me is the impact of armor throughout the day as the shooter gets more and more exhausted
Do a ballistic test on the mag. Does the amount of ammo in the mag affect your ability to throw in to a buddy for a reload. How far can you throw it, does it bounce on different surfaces and so on 😁 Ian might have a some cool old stuff for chucking it long distances (launching it with a blank from a old French rifle, grenade launcher style comes to mind) 😎
I really don't see the practical use of the "memory game" as Russell has been calling it that was going on in this stage. In my mind, stuff like that doesn't make you a better shooter - especially if there are ROs telling you which targets you still have to shoot. I'm not trying to say that the stage is bad per se, but it wouldn't be for me, I guess.
Good job guys. Even totally gassed out you both still finished out the day and with decent scores to boot. What did the YouSuck badge say/stand for on Karls pack? I would assume it would have to do with youtube demonitizeing the majority of firearms content but you know what they say about assuming.....
Again it's interesting seeing Karl being the more agile competitor. You can tell both guys are totally drained by the end of the day, and it's showing in the speed of their actions, especially Russell after the wall. A question -- how much did the chest-mounted mag carriers and backpack made the wall more difficult by forcing your body and CoG out from the wall?
A question of curriousity, why didn't you guys just drag the weight by the drag handle and then lift it onto the platform? Was the plate carrier it had on lacking one or am I missing something? In my experience, it's easier to drag a heavy weight than lift it.
This was where the wheels came off for the match. It was only our third of the day, and I was shooting well and moving through the maze without needing input from the RO...then I timed out. The wall kicked my fat ass, and while I didn’t fall off, I just took too long on it. Time to stop being fat, then. Also, one thing about this stage you didn’t mention (probably because it didn’t apply to you), but in this stage EVERYONE had to do it armored. There were two plate carriers provided by esstac for competitors.
Russell, After you dropped the dummy, I could see something brushing against your calves as you walked to your rifle. Upon closer inspection I could see it was your ass. Good job guys, thanks for all you do.
Recently i've noticed you're getting actually relevant video suggestions and your subs are going up, did you do anything to get on youtube's good side ?
That wall went on for too long to be safe in a competition, and that maze of paper requiring coaching to get through it was a stupid stage, if they spaced targets out on a larger range they could have made it work, but that small maze just doesn't work well.
Predatron AU they’ve used this wall since 2012 in a number of matches. There haven’t been any injuries on it more than scrapes and bruises to my knowledge. The paper target section did not require coaching the people that did the best on it didn’t require any. These matches have to appeal to a broad audience of shooters; this stage was one for the 3gunners and USPSA shooters.
@ 14:00 mins. @Sinistral_Rifleman "That was really unpleasant". Agreed. But hey - it was only a one-way range, and you weren't packin' ammo, rations, water and batteries for 2 days more of this stuff, with added 'sleeping in a ditch' :-D Kudos, though, for giving it a go. Once upon a time, just maybe I mightaperhapsmaybewiththyour_AR_andafairwind have outdone you, but at that time [5 feet 9 inches tall] me woulda been in my early 30s and weighing in at a sylph-like 161lbs.
Puff gun mag goes poof with the proper application of binary, explosives, or as an attachment on a mortar. Maybe as the projectile of a cannon? I know you guys have the connections. Make it EXPLOSIVE. :)
Sinistral: I believe you mentioned that you are running a vortex variable optic, but could you more fully discuss the optics and mounts you are using in the competition. Also it looks like you are running a red dot over the variable; any reason you chose to piggy back it as opposed to putting at a 45 degree angle as I have seen used by a number of competitors, in particular Jerry Miculek. Also great job by both of you in gutting it out at the end of the day.
Nick Beckwith there’s Gear discussion coming up later. I stack the offset red dot because I’m left handed and I want to be able to use it off either shoulder. Right handed stage design bias forces me to switch shoulders often. I had to do it on this stage and on stage 5 so far.
I'm reminded of watching the Discovery Channel BUDS class 234 and how the exhausted trainees' faces would light up when they got meals during hell week. Whenever I'm fed up with shit, I daydream of waffles now.
scruffy da real OG if you’ve ever seen Ultraman or Evangelion, where there’s a timer counting down before out of power, that’s kind of what it feels like shooting some of these stages.
There is wisdom in this. Never sell a cursed item, not unless you know the shopkeep and they are made well aware of it and all its quirks and etc.. Like, if they're selling curios and relics, i think they'd love a weird cursed sword that swears at the wielder. But selling it to Lucinda the general goods merchant is not going to go over well with Lucinda the general goods merchant.
I was resetting it after another shooter and apparently I seriously strained some abdominal and back muscles. Ended up going to the ER four times over two weeks because the pain, and other complications, were more than I could handle on my own. I'm 95% healed now, but spending 7 weeks sleeping upright on the couch because it hurt too much to lay down wasn't fun. Ended up only shooting stages 5, 6, and 7.
I feel your pain, as someone who shears sheep as a job, you spend all day bent over (at like palms flat on floor with straight legs kinda bent over) and some of the sheep I have to shear can weigh from 50 - 100+ kg. And carrying them out of the trailer is mostly what tires your back. However the more you do it, the stronger your back gets.
If you could do it safely, fill that 60 round mag, and see what happens when it gets hit by bullets(pehaps inside an old safe?). It might be interesting and even scientific video of things that might happen on field... get Ian to do his slowmotion footage... ...and this time not to make a mess of it =P
Demoranch has done that. Loaded up a pmag (iirc) with .223 (iirc) and shot it. One or two rounds would get smashed and ripped, maaaaybe cooked off, and of course the mag got broke. I think the mag pouch got singed slightly but that could also be due to the incindiary boolit. Didn't really hurt the dummy at all.
Well the point was that they could have scientaining contet and have fun whilst shooting it, and on the case of the mag pouch... better idea, attach it on a gun and shoot the living daylight IN to it, and then mud test it xD Seriously i just kinda wanted video like their explodin bullets video, if there is lore about magazines gettin hit(there was a video of Ian's about one french mg that got hit by burst of bullets so the lore and actual effects of what would happen is kinda interesting) . Do you even notice if your magazine is hit by a bullet in a heat of a battle until you get malfunction?
I'm not yet 4 minutes in, we have barely done with the walkthru, and already it's clear that this shoot was designed by somebody who didn't think the events portrayed in 'Blackhawk Down' were a sufficient test of American fortitude and skill-at-arms. It's nutz.
RO: "Are you ready?"
Karl: (Shrugs) "Sure."
200% done.
LOL Russell - "That was really unpleasant." Clearly your emotion subroutines have been disabled during low power mode operation.
You presume I have emotional sub routines to begin with
Cognition only; no emotional affect
Glen Stilson of Independence Training had the fastest Trooper-Armored with 151.32 seconds. Bryan Welch of We Plead the 2nd was 2nd with 153.40 seconds.
Everyone is grumpy after wearing plates all day. Thanks for soldiering on for our entertainment. You guys rock.
Gotta practice executing wounded lying on the ground, otherwise you might hesitate.
You also have to practice dragging your wounded out of cover and leaving them in the open.
"And then you go eat something." By far the most important (and enjoyable) step.
I can maybe understand one target at muzzleblast distance, but three?
Big shout out to Sinistral, despite people calling you "fat", you stand above that. You crush these stages with armor on and desert sun burning you. You seem to be very eduacated, smart and funny. When you laughed at the 19:50 mark, i lost it. Have good one, i'm looking forward for day 2.
The paper stages clearly suit some shooters but not others. From a video viewer perspective I also find paper stages less interesting to watch - less reaction from the targets, more confusion as to what's what - much the same reasons, but without the pain :-) Thanks for presenting the match. Both of your shooting skills seems to be standing up well under the conditions.
Next stage: the salmon ladder, followed by the warped wall and the jumping spider.
moosemaimer fuuuuucccccckkkkk
This whole stage was a funhouse at the county fair.
These guys were done. No fun was had on this stage.
A lot to remember but it looked like fun to me.
I agree with the guys too many paper targets in weird positions for that last half. It felt tedious just watching it I can only imagine having to shoot them all. The shoot house looked fun even the wall but after that they could have stopped and it would have been a perfectly fine stage. Maybe start with the dummy and move it into the house just to get the exercise in there, instead of dragging if from cover into the open. It makes Karl's I hope you die have a different meaning.
I do think it made Karl's day to hear Russell say his match was the best, though.
"I'm gonna DEFILE that place tonight." Karl Kasarda, 2018. A quote for the ages.
Oh man. I was feeling Russels knee pain every step of that. Glad he got out without injury.
Ian would have blitzed the wall
wuppieigor He did so last year. That, and the desert brutality trench stage, started the Nimble Ian meme.
He would have... but I don't think the sea of paper would have impressed him either
He would have started stabbing it again
doesn't he hate the spinners though?
@Karl - your closing credits remarks: they were my "Belfast 1975" revisited, except that the only place to go eat was the very basic troops diner (in a portakabin), the 'something to eat' was a DIY fried egg sandwich, and the 'Air B'n'B' was a bunk in a portakabin with anti-mortar mesh and sandbags on the roof. 24 hours, 2 hours patrolling, 2 hours in the base (patrol debrief, eat, sleep - briefly - wake, mug of tea, pre-patrol orders, 2 hours patrolling, rinse and repeat).
Frankly, everybody kinda looked forward to a Contact, to break the goddam' monotony :-D
Great to see you paired with Russell, thanks !
I'm so glad you offer commentary at the end of each stage. So many shooters just put up videos of the action without any discussion of it. It's always interesting to hear what you think afterwards. I'd love to do this match some day, but who knows if I'll ever be able to make it out west. Anyway, enjoyed the video and good shooting to both of you!
Oh and Prolab caffeine tablets are flipping livesavers. I keep a bottle of those in my camping gear, at the office, and in each of my cars.
Good run guys. It looked like a fun run through. Reminds me of some of the silly stuff that we would have to do in the Army at some company level training events.
I’ve really enjoyed the harder than hell series, thanks for the uploads .
"All of life is pain. Ths is just a different form of that."
Physical condition is a very important part of combat . You guys both did pretty darn good ! Fatigue sucks .. but you guys looked like you were having fun .
"I'm really Bad at planning stages" -Karl ... says the guy who organizes and plans the stages for his 2G ACM, lol
Sean Dey designing good stages for people to shoot and planning how to shoot stages for efficiency are two different skills.
I'll double-down on my previous comment: RO coaching is a bug, and speaks to poor stage design.
N JJ yet the best scores on this stage didn’t require it. While I don’t prefer stages like this it doesn’t mean they’re bad designs.
Historically Multigun matches with longer 5-10 minute stages have always had coaching. If that’s not your thing stick to venues with shorter 30-60 second stages.
I am definitely not suggesting it is the largest factor affecting score.
I think what you’re not understanding is that on stages 1-4 where neither of us needed coaching, less experienced or lower skill level shooters did to remind them what to do next. Coaching is there to help people make it through and do things in the proper sequence if you need it. If you’re good you’ll never need it. If you need it you’ll probably want the help.
Coaching is actually prohibited in USPSA except at level 1 matches under very select circumstances. I think with this type of match though you can have the RO coaching and not hurt the "integrity" of the match or stage, as A VP says it does emphasize a different skill set.
minor clarification: non RO coaching is prohibited. ROs in general won't coach unless, as some have said, it's a bad design.
fill the mag with tannerite or borrow AVE's package guillotine?
WHAT?! I thought it was 1 stage a day, like how the videos are released, wow, just brutal
I think Karl missed a step at the end when he was dumping his stuff in the car...Make sure you have the keys in your pocket, not a pouch on your belt or armor. ;-)
The proper way to get rid of your trooper equipment was pure gold. Now I too must go and eat something.
glad to see data on puffgun mags. ive seen a few videos of one magdump, no longer term stuff
You were both totally whipped by the end of the day. Still, I missed Ian's capering across the wall. :p
capering is a very well chosen term here :D
I feel like Karl's run was pretty good, considering. Shame about the slip on the wall, but the pistol shoothouse felt pretty fluid. Also the squeeky voiced supportive RO was cute. Good coaching on the rifle chunk. Sinistral did good, considering, at the wall! Awesome coaching by the RO. That all being said, this looks more brutal than the desert brutality. Not in the actual stages, really, but as you mentioned, just the amount of stuff in one day. Karl looks outright pissed. Hope that the second day was more enjoyable for you guys.
Very nice Challenger, Karl.
Good on Glen for helping with the wall.
Was this sponsored by an ammo company or something?
That stage just seemed to never end. If they're openly guiding you without you even asking for it then surely the stage is poorly designed
Helpful heath tip, if you have to have your caffeine in the form of a drink other than coffee, the zero calorie or low calorie drinks are actually worse for you than drinks with full sugar. The reason being is your bodies metabolism is increased due to the caffeine and is in need of calories. Also you are at a greater risk of kidney stones from the zero sugar since the sweetener they use in non digestible and will sit in your body longer than it is supposed to.
Keep the channel crossovers alive; new segment for Larry (Vickers) Turns It Off : cursed ak quad stack
My cat is sleeping about three feet away. When the bird was loudest his head came up and he opened his eyes at the bird call lol.
I was tired enough after day one of Desert Brutality. That looks truly brutal.
I suspect bringing a few squeeze bottles of honey or something similar with you to these events for a burst of energy as the day wears on is almost as important as lots of water as the day wears on in that heat. Who won the match?
Ken ibn Anak 3 more stage videos to go before results
Awesome conclusion!
Karl are you using an SGL-31 or SLR104? Thanks!
A idea for the crapizine vid load the mag and then shot it from differant directions in slo mo for a scientific analysis would a round going through the loaded mag set off the rounds in it ? Like the dread chain fireing in a tube mag a good lead in to Your 19th Century lever action what if series
Sinistral is great on these videos. He has conservation on movement down so well. His compensator is well tuned too. You guys look spent.
There is a reason why fitness is one of the primary things that are trained up, drilled in and emphasized in military (and even LEO) training. Regular, 3-5 times a week of intense cardio exercise (plus at least a bit of weights) if not something like Crossfit or similar training is *Invaluable* to a LEO/military to maintain mental and physical health. Regular exercise nearly always helps with sleep and if you combine it with a healthy diet, one's ability to handle stress and perform is dramatically, if not profoundly enhanced. Plus, if someone does all of these things as part of a general lifestyle, how they will operate in emergency situations, such as a shootout, is, once again, dramatically improved, something that has been studied extensively.
If you have never done something like the above, you cannot understand how much being exhausted will affect performance, physical and mental, including firearm accuracy/firearm operation including things like clearing jams, etc. As an aside, realize that it looks pretty warm and doing all of these competitive events under the hot sun also has a large effect on any physical activity, forget firearms performance.
Obviously Russell is more practiced and accomplished with his firearms of choice, but IMO fitness and carrying those extra pounds played a role in his ability to do well (especially as one gets older). I suspect that if running around, clearing obstacles, firing from various positions, etc., wasn't integral to the competition, he might have actually even won - his accuracy was quite astonishing, especially at longer ranges.
That all said, I think these guys did pretty good, especially since neither are LEOs, nor current military, and aren't 19 years old. So, hats off ! It was really interesting to watch.
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Is there some way to know the evolution of the difference in score between armored divisions and non-armored divisions? It could be quite interesting to see how the weight of the armor affects shooting throughout the day. I would guess the more time passes the bigger the gap in score but how much?
Julien Avelange on this stage, everyone was armored. There were two provided plate carriers for those that didn’t have their own.
Matthew Conner but that is just this stage isn't it? What about the entire day ? What interests me is the impact of armor throughout the day as the shooter gets more and more exhausted
Julien Avelange you’d have to know the order people completed stages in and currently the scoring system doesn’t track that data.
SinistralRifleman Oh too bad, thanks for the answer though.
Do a ballistic test on the mag. Does the amount of ammo in the mag affect your ability to throw in to a buddy for a reload. How far can you throw it, does it bounce on different surfaces and so on 😁 Ian might have a some cool old stuff for chucking it long distances (launching it with a blank from a old French rifle, grenade launcher style comes to mind) 😎
I really don't see the practical use of the "memory game" as Russell has been calling it that was going on in this stage. In my mind, stuff like that doesn't make you a better shooter - especially if there are ROs telling you which targets you still have to shoot. I'm not trying to say that the stage is bad per se, but it wouldn't be for me, I guess.
Damn, that looked like so much fun!
Fire!!! A screensaver where the magazine slowly burns down like a candle.
I would like to see how would Ian would crush this wall with his crazy agility
Next time you go to Finland have Laurie and Anni from Hydraulic Press Channel deal with that mag for you.
Bummed out Karl is hilarious!
would a conclusion a day or two after that have been more positive?
I want to do this some day but I am to young and don't have a firearm any tips?
I know I am late, But can you not take your PC off while resetting the stage
Did you carry the Hudson after the match, or a different carry gun?
Good job guys. Even totally gassed out you both still finished out the day and with decent scores to boot.
What did the YouSuck badge say/stand for on Karls pack? I would assume it would have to do with youtube demonitizeing the majority of firearms content but you know what they say about assuming.....
Karl, What kind of smock are you wearing?
Day: 1
Stage: DILLIGAF
Again it's interesting seeing Karl being the more agile competitor. You can tell both guys are totally drained by the end of the day, and it's showing in the speed of their actions, especially Russell after the wall. A question -- how much did the chest-mounted mag carriers and backpack made the wall more difficult by forcing your body and CoG out from the wall?
honestly my size 14 feet made the wall harder than the chest rig did.
That looked not enjoyable.
I need to make it out for Tiger Valley next year. That looked fun as hell.
A question of curriousity, why didn't you guys just drag the weight by the drag handle and then lift it onto the platform?
Was the plate carrier it had on lacking one or am I missing something? In my experience, it's easier to drag a heavy weight than lift it.
That's unusual for it not to have a drag handle but it makes more sense now
This was where the wheels came off for the match. It was only our third of the day, and I was shooting well and moving through the maze without needing input from the RO...then I timed out. The wall kicked my fat ass, and while I didn’t fall off, I just took too long on it. Time to stop being fat, then. Also, one thing about this stage you didn’t mention (probably because it didn’t apply to you), but in this stage EVERYONE had to do it armored. There were two plate carriers provided by esstac for competitors.
Karl & Russell's Optimism: Gone
Does anybody know what hat Karl is wearing here??
Karl, I want to play D&D with you. The potential for high funability is too damn high!
Russell,
After you dropped the dummy, I could see something brushing against your calves as you walked to your rifle. Upon closer inspection I could see it was your ass.
Good job guys, thanks for all you do.
I think I would've liked that stage. You know, in a "This sucks. I like the way this sucks" kind of way.
Recently i've noticed you're getting actually relevant video suggestions and your subs are going up, did you do anything to get on youtube's good side ?
That wall went on for too long to be safe in a competition, and that maze of paper requiring coaching to get through it was a stupid stage, if they spaced targets out on a larger range they could have made it work, but that small maze just doesn't work well.
Predatron AU they’ve used this wall since 2012 in a number of matches. There haven’t been any injuries on it more than scrapes and bruises to my knowledge.
The paper target section did not require coaching the people that did the best on it didn’t require any. These matches have to appeal to a broad audience of shooters; this stage was one for the 3gunners and USPSA shooters.
Karl, there are people who would FIGHT for that 'cursed' mag!!
Hello,what gear do you and russel use?
Haris Mpalatsoukas It's in the video's description, fourth paragraph.
Josiah Gibson i am talking about the chest rig and plate carrier
What did you eat afterward?
@ 14:00 mins. @Sinistral_Rifleman "That was really unpleasant". Agreed. But hey - it was only a one-way range, and you weren't packin' ammo, rations, water and batteries for 2 days more of this stuff, with added 'sleeping in a ditch' :-D
Kudos, though, for giving it a go. Once upon a time, just maybe I mightaperhapsmaybewiththyour_AR_andafairwind have outdone you, but at that time [5 feet 9 inches tall] me woulda been in my early 30s and weighing in at a sylph-like 161lbs.
grumpy Karl is fun to watch.
Ooh - what edition of D&D do you play Karl? :D
Puff gun mag goes poof with the proper application of binary, explosives, or as an attachment on a mortar. Maybe as the projectile of a cannon? I know you guys have the connections. Make it EXPLOSIVE. :)
they should fit that mag over the M1 Garand grenade launcher attachment and record the result. (preferably activated with a lanyard.)
tannerite is boring, you get a big white cloud and you loose all detail for the slowmo camera.
Sinistral: I believe you mentioned that you are running a vortex variable optic, but could you more fully discuss the optics and mounts you are using in the competition. Also it looks like you are running a red dot over the variable; any reason you chose to piggy back it as opposed to putting at a 45 degree angle as I have seen used by a number of competitors, in particular Jerry Miculek.
Also great job by both of you in gutting it out at the end of the day.
Nick Beckwith there’s Gear discussion coming up later.
I stack the offset red dot because I’m left handed and I want to be able to use it off either shoulder. Right handed stage design bias forces me to switch shoulders often. I had to do it on this stage and on stage 5 so far.
What’s the HMMMM meme patch 😂
No stegosaurus with flames coming out of its tail to oppose them? So lame. I'm disappointed.
"Then you take off this belt... which is stupid... and then you (chucks it and slams truck) and go get something to eat" I almost pissed myself.
I'm reminded of watching the Discovery Channel BUDS class 234 and how the exhausted trainees' faces would light up when they got meals during hell week. Whenever I'm fed up with shit, I daydream of waffles now.
I Keep being amazed by how spry Sinistral is for a hefty fella.
Geks YT Generally hefty fellows are spry... for about 10 minutes, then they spend 2 hours on the couch feeling dead. lol
scruffy da real OG if you’ve ever seen Ultraman or Evangelion, where there’s a timer counting down before out of power, that’s kind of what it feels like shooting some of these stages.
I'm a hefty guy and my knees were hurting after watching his wall crawl. Good job hanging in there until the end.
SinistralRifleman sooo, we need to attach some sort of energy cable to you? Or we could go the other way and put you in a plugsuit...
"That was really unpleasant."
Just now saw Karl's patch on his chest. :D
There is wisdom in this.
Never sell a cursed item, not unless you know the shopkeep and they are made well aware of it and all its quirks and etc..
Like, if they're selling curios and relics, i think they'd love a weird cursed sword that swears at the wielder.
But selling it to Lucinda the general goods merchant is not going to go over well with Lucinda the general goods merchant.
That stupid steel "casualty" you have to move is what sent me to the ER. Bad part I was resetting it when I hurt myself.
I was resetting it after another shooter and apparently I seriously strained some abdominal and back muscles. Ended up going to the ER four times over two weeks because the pain, and other complications, were more than I could handle on my own. I'm 95% healed now, but spending 7 weeks sleeping upright on the couch because it hurt too much to lay down wasn't fun.
Ended up only shooting stages 5, 6, and 7.
Donald Weber damn, sorry to hear that.
I feel your pain, as someone who shears sheep as a job, you spend all day bent over (at like palms flat on floor with straight legs kinda bent over) and some of the sheep I have to shear can weigh from 50 - 100+ kg. And carrying them out of the trailer is mostly what tires your back. However the more you do it, the stronger your back gets.
Hammocks in the shade would've been handy ;)
5:50 “Everybody Stops to watch Carl :D”
If you could do it safely, fill that 60 round mag, and see what happens when it gets hit by bullets(pehaps inside an old safe?). It might be interesting and even scientific video of things that might happen on field... get Ian to do his slowmotion footage... ...and this time not to make a mess of it =P
Doesn't Karl have a flamethrower...?
Demoranch has done that. Loaded up a pmag (iirc) with .223 (iirc) and shot it. One or two rounds would get smashed and ripped, maaaaybe cooked off, and of course the mag got broke. I think the mag pouch got singed slightly but that could also be due to the incindiary boolit. Didn't really hurt the dummy at all.
Well the point was that they could have scientaining contet and have fun whilst shooting it, and on the case of the mag pouch... better idea, attach it on a gun and shoot the living daylight IN to it, and then mud test it xD Seriously i just kinda wanted video like their explodin bullets video, if there is lore about magazines gettin hit(there was a video of Ian's about one french mg that got hit by burst of bullets so the lore and actual effects of what would happen is kinda interesting) . Do you even notice if your magazine is hit by a bullet in a heat of a battle until you get malfunction?
I'm not yet 4 minutes in, we have barely done with the walkthru, and already it's clear that this shoot was designed by somebody who didn't think the events portrayed in 'Blackhawk Down' were a sufficient test of American fortitude and skill-at-arms. It's nutz.
You could almost say it was a *engage sunglasses* target rich environment.
Dat D&D reference!
At least you had a 5 body trunk
I thought the shoot house was fun but ya the jungle of paper targets was confusing and not fun at all.
Russel looked entertained by Karl's misery lol. You both have my sympathy.
There's something really wrong about hearing "more cowbell!" in a desert.
Puff gun mag should be destroyed a la Office Space...with guns.
24:40 🔥
I'm not lending you any of my guns.
you think he needs yours..
oooo Karl drives a Challenger.