1. Add the crown back to first place on the minimap during races 2. Nerf the +10 gain in Renegade Roundup to +5 3. In Renegade Roundup turn off friendly fire for the law, and increase invincibility when a renegade is freed from a cage. 4. Fix lag not allowing the law to chomp at renegades 5. Bring back the custom WW option 6. Make VR/BR less of a grind, buff to at least +50/-65 7. Make VR search more accurate, no more 9000-99999, make it more like MK7 8. Fix the delay between everyone voting and when a track starts to be picked 9. Give slight invincibility to players who manage to steal the shine in shine thief 10. Allow users to delete tournaments that have yet to be played (don't know if this was fixed from MK8)
One thing I'd really like to see is showing the hidden stats. It really doesn't make sense how they aren't shown to the players, especially because this game's vehicle combos heavily revolve around the mini-turbo stat.
We should have the ability to choose the amount of cpus and which items are available when doing a VS match or custom tournament. The choices we have are extremely limited.
Kamek and nabbit would be nice, but the hammer bro wouldn't, and birdo and diddy Kong didn't return because they wasn't use often in laws games, also funky Kong is my favorite, but it will just ruin MK8 online just like MKWII servers. People would use him and kill the experience. Only using him instead of other characters.
Hi I'm Kirby I think the reason for that because he was the best character in mkwii so I don't think this same problem would happen again unless they decide to make him op again
Games and Luigifan I get that the reason he was over used was because he was the highest stat character, and Daisy. But even without his stats, he was still a favorite
Interesting...with the back half of this video, I get the impression that the Switch port for MK8D was rushed because those are all convenient polishes that were in MK8 WiiU already
That and most of the people who worked on MK8D went on to work on ARMS - if their focus is there, then MK8D won't get any attention. Then again, I think they probably consider the 'improvements' from MK8WiiU to MK8D to be worth it regardless.
Hamish Brown Actually, a shock holder can dodge another shock holder's shock so he gets to use the shock and that gives the third shock holder two shock dodges so he uses it and it messes up the server.
Glad that you brought up the fireball issue, probably the most important one aside from the lag hits. The few thing not mentioned here were the ability to download more than 16 ghosts. Considering we have 200cc TTs that adds up to 96 tracks total, yet we can only download 16 ghosts??? I mean even mkwii let us have 32 downloaded ghosts. The ability to join a regional race thats not your own simply by having a friend in the regional is dumb, and defeats the purpose of regional races in the first place. Also some flags in MK8DX cant actually be used online because if you set your region to that country, it says that the nintendo online service isnt supported (not really a bug, but funny none the less) Also get rid of DLC Track bias in the "random" race selection
Had some more things to add, I would keep the ability for you to guide reds into walls like mkwii, it adds some skill. Also remove aimbot from greenshells thanks. (yes greenshells have aimbot, Bean discovered this in the original MK8, so its probably here too)
I agree with all of this, especially the regional race thing, when I'm trying to play with my friend and randoms, the best option is regional, so its more specific, but then the room is flooded with people from random places, ruining the exclusivity.
One minor thing ive noticed that still isnt fixed yet is the character sound effects that play in mktv and ghost replays - characters typically have multiple sound effects for whatever they do (ex. releasing a super mini turbo) and in mktv and ghost replays the game only plays one specific sound effect for each thing that they do instead of using all of the characters sound effects. Not that this is really a problem at all, just something i noticed, and this didnt happen in the original mk8
The bombs should stay for the 1st placed because the 2nd placed gets 290458 red shells, so that is actually fair enough :) >> I want to switch the double items manually with the Y button! >> MKTV Replays: Certain voice files aren't loaded while using a MT or Shroom. >> When drivers hit the antigravity section they use a certain voice file once per race. They should be loaded everytime they hit the anti-G section
Delta Z Switch the double items is a good idea, but for people like me, it would be a bad idea use the “Y” bottom for switch them, becuase I use it for acelerate P.D.: Sorry for my bad english, is not my natal language
Delta Z No the A button Cause everyone uses the Y button to accelerate, i know the a button too, so maybe the r or l button, but i recommend everyone using the a button: use the y button instead of the a, Cause in 200cc you need to brake sometimes and then your thumb kind of hangs over the b button, when you use the a Button you can look backwarts easier Cause of the x button but i think braking is more important than looking backwarts and when you use the y button, pressing x isn’t even a problem!
Make the items client based. When lag is in the room, you shouldn't get 2 coins. If they made this change, the lag would be like MKW where on your screen you wouldn't hit people as much, but at least you wouldn't be hit by stuff that isn't there. That's caused by not having the item positions stored locally, instead they use the server to tell where the items are.
That's a good idea except Client based mechanics can be rigged in some ways where as Server based mechanchnics are alot more secure as it's a server computing these things not the player's device. It's hard to avoid exploiters when it relates to items.
Coins are trash as an item, I know that it will give you mini boost (kind of useless) but the item are pretty unnecessary. And i think that previous Mario Kart games are a lot more fun because it had more variety of items, unforgottable tracks, modes,online exclusive events,etc. And the electronic theme is kind of not fitting comparing with other Mario Kart games, yes I admit that the graphics are great but not much more further than that. Don't take this as offence is just only my opinion. Edit: The game also have no intro animation, no voice sound variation when choosing a character,no victory animation when winning cups (instead of this a replay of previous races), no automatic or manual drift option, the blue ramps (the ramps that give you a boost in Mario Kart Wii) nerfed difficulty in retro tracks, and also unlocking more than a half game content with coins is boring and repetitive.
You didnt mention the effect of getting hit by fire balls - in 7 fire balls only spinned you like bananas but now they stop and spin you just like shells does. So having a fire flower equals to 10 green shells with smaller hit box
New things to fix: -Increase the immunity time after getting hit -There’s this combo that goes REALLY fast (not telling what it is) and it feels like cheating so I want Nintendo SOOOO badly to fix the fact that it goes too fast plz -Pink -Gold -Peach
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Changes or Bug Fixes: - Coin item should not be obtainable when you already have a max of 10 coins. - Fire Flower item should be like Mario Kart 7, where only 3 fireballs can be in play at a time. - Backward thrown Red Shell and Green Shell items should move slower. - Backward dropped Bomb-omb items should have a smaller blast radius. - Backward thrown Boomerang items should move slower and return to the player faster. - You should only be able to hit a backwards dragged item if you hit it on your screen. - On cases where you are hit by something and you use something to counteract that hit on the same frame, the counteract should take priority and you shouldn't be hit by that item. - Red Shell and Spiny Shell items shouldn't slow down when they lock on a player. - When multiple items are targeting you, you should see a warning for both items, not just one of them. - You should not be able to get two of the same item from a double item box. - The same track shouldn't be picked for at least 3 turns. - The B button on the joycon should bring you to the previous player while spectating, like in Mario Kart 8. - Warnings should show for Piranha Plant item in races and battles besides Renegade Roundup. - Spiny Shell item should target the person with the most hits in Balloon Battle, the person with the most coins in Coin Runners, and the person with the shine in Shine Thief, like in Mario Kart Wii. - Lightning item should make everyone lose a balloon, but not lose their items or get small, and only reward the user with 1 hit in Balloon Battle; make everyone lose half of their coins without losing items or shrinking in Coin Runners, act like it does in races in Renegade Roundup, and in Shine Thief.
Something that needs fixed is the VR grouping system in worldwides. I have about 1200 VR, and normally I get picked with players that have about the same VR as me. However, since very few players have VR in the 5-digit VR, they get picked in random rooms. So sometimes there’s a room with players with ~1000 VR but one person has, like, 20000 VR.
Thank you it's been a issue since Wii U once that happens I'm sure no doubt they'll be salty I had big run-ins and fights with ignorant players like that luckily there is a temporary fix until then only if players are good enough just put them in last, it's really no secret all they want are the points force them to lose more then they earn and they'll leave simple (it did wonders for me 😸)
I actually managed to frame perfect shock dodge in mk7. What happened is I delayed my star use, then activated it. I got shocked, but I traveled in full speed while spinning, and I didn't shrink. I also didn't lose coins.
Besides the points brought up in the video they should also nerf the red shell so you can't be hit by them when you've been launched out of a cannon, also reduce the number of lightning bolts in play, have a cooldown on said lightning bolt and also make it that only those in front of you get struck by lightning. Also the bullet bill and Starman are way too slow, they should be as fast as they were in MKWii. Finally the whole get hit by items despite having protection. Eg having a triple Shell and then someone launches one back, it takes out your shell then hits you. Also allow for us to have free reign over what tracks we want picked when choosing in the lobby, like in MKWii. Lastly fix matchmaking in lobbies, so you're racing people of a similar rating is as you.
Blue Shell: higher frequency to prevent Mario Kart veterans from dominating the race very easily but at the cost of being destroyed by Bob-omb explosions and Lightning bolts Lightning: a 3-second delay so it warns the racers before shrinking and making it easier for Shock dodges
My idea of homing warnings are a normal warning(like we have now,) when a red or blue is near, and a recticle warning when you're being targeted. So that means a circle with rectangles pointing inwards.
In the earlier games, you actually could use a torpedo shell and red shell as traps. The red shell would hone in on whoever passes it first while the torpedo shell would hone in on whoever is first place and passes it then. Of course that got ELIMINATED.
I've got some Green Shell: every time it hits a wall the amount of coins dropped by someone is reduced by 1 and if it hits a wall 4 times it breaks completely Red Shell: 2nd-4th frequency and accuracy reduced so it can be dodged by drifting like MKDD
A friend of mine made a great point about the coin item, which was that they should be in less supply in first place, but be obtained in lower positions in the race and be more than 2 coins. Often when stuck in a pack of players, it is a lot harder to obtain coins because any player in front of you will pick them up, leaving you with scraps, or more often nothing. The coin item appearing for these players would help them get up to their max coin stack a lot easier, and stop them getting stuck in the pack. What this would mean for higher placed racers is more item diversity, and forces these racers to pick up coins on the track instead of perfectly traveling down every shortcut knowing full well they can pick up a double item box and refill their coin cache.
A lot of the balancing changes are quite extreme (bob-omb blast radius of a third?) but could stand to be done in a smaller way. Fireballs should despawn quicker after hitting a wall, which caused stand issues you see in the gameplay. Also thankfully dragged item bug isn't too common.
More things I would fix. 1. Instead of choosing between either all items, no items, or one item, we should be able to pick and choose what items we want, like Smash. 2. Remove coins as a possible item. 3. Allow only one blue shell per race. 4. Only 6th place and below can get triple shells. 5. Bullet Bills can only drop off on straightaways.
Allow the option to join a game where you select whatever map you want without having only 3 options and a random. I liked the good ol' days of that even when everyone chose rainbow road.
Totally agreed. However, I would remove smart bouncing, I would prefer it if green shells only bounced once or twice, I would like to have some kind of reaction time to the Boo steals, and I would either nerf red shells in 150cc or make them more uncommon.
I agree with 70% of the issues, especially the fire flower spam. It literally has no recovery time and I literally get hit 4 times in 2 seconds by that. And I always overpanic thanks to these false warnings. I would also add that coins are lost way too easily. For every item hit (except for the fireflower, but that makes you lose 5 coins/second) the player loses 3 coins. Why? This is Mario Kart, so this idea itself is flawed. By this chaos, it is almost impossible to hold many coins. At least base it on MK7. I had to grind in time trial in order to unlock the Golden Glider. I favour the coin item in first place, as it creates dynamic and action in the top positions, but please remove it from the 2nd place pool. Not only is the first place unthreatned now, but in spite of not even being first, the 2nd place will get spammed by (triple) reds, as they are even more common in 3rd/4th place. Finally, *every sigle track* has to be recreated to adapt to 200cc. Without heavy break drifting the player spins out on most curves and half of the jump boosts can't be used, as the player is guarenteed to hug the next wall.
Interesting video, it's a very good idea to put passwords on the friend lobbies, it would surely be very useful when playing especially in Team Races. I don't really mind red shells to be more common, just bring the wall-dodge back and make the coin appear less often.
Don't You Mean Switching One Item To Your Second Item EXAMPLE: You Have A Coin Item And A Red Shell Item, And The Red Shell Is Your Second Item, Making You Have To Use Your Coin Item First, And A Guy Has Caught Up With You, While Very Close For The Race To Finish, So Pressing A Certain Button Will Allow You To Quickly Let You Use Your Red Shell, THEN Use The Coin Item.
Character Roster changes: ~Pink Gold Peach ~Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach (alternate universes? Double Cherries? Idek...) ~Give one of the Koopalings a slot, and 6 alternate costumes for the others ~add Funky Kong, Diddy, and Birdo
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I honestly enjoy most of the things you talked about (regarding nerfing), because I enjoy MK for its friendship ruining attributes, not for its balance. I still agree with the buggy stuff like red shells cancelling each other and online invisible hits.
Idk if this is a bug/glitch but I often see 2 of the same person in online matches. They might be siblings or friends using the same username and mii but I see this in basically every lobby I join so it can get pretty suspicious at times.
The integrity and stability of online and local wireless. There are times where I hit someone with a shell, and even though the animation gets triggered, it still shows them getting a boost while in a bit animation. I've also seen someone start feeding the engine at 3, and while it triggered the animation of jumping the start, it still have them the boost at the start of the race.
I would personally adjust the map rotation so that some rarer courses like Bone-Dry Dunes, Bowser’s Castle, and DS Wario Stadium would appear more often and the often seen Sunshine Airport, SNES Rainbow Road (I feel both are incredibly overrated), and Wii Moo Moo Meadows less often.
Agree with most of this. My thing is the item system. It's usually great but get rid of the coin item and why does second place get triple reds even though you have quite a lead? I think placement should still influence items more. I would be 100% okay with items if the coin wasn't present even with those reds.
Honestly, without the ability to see items, lightning is way too OP. They need to add a side screen with items on or the screen goes dark briefly before the shock, giving some time to dodge. I commented this on a live stream and Kevin actually noticed me
You completely forgot the fact that players online who are hit by items DO NOT slow down until they either pull out another item to "block" it, or finally slow down seconds later, which fucks up races. This is because of faulty netcode and lag.
All these changes would be a great welcome, I hope the Devs take your ideas. 7:03 Me: Wait... what do I think needs to be changed? Mankalor: Oh boy. Me HMMMMMM... let me see... Mankalor: Here we go. Me: Gasp! I know what change we need! Mankalor: Please go away stalker. Me: you ready for my change idea? Are you shore? OK! Ready? HERE WE GO. Mankalor: He's gonna say it isn't he. Me:............. ALL THE CLONES SHOULD- Mankalor: Yes yes we already know, all the clones should be in the same slot with the original characters, you already said it a million times, we get it. Me:... I would still love that change and the roster would look less painful to see.
Rigby | Nah, I don't think so. It has too much variety, it's feels really full, even though it has some pointless Characters. One of the worst character roster in the Mario Kart series is the Mario Kart 7 one, with pointless Characters like Wiggler, Honey Queen and Shy Guy, but this last one isn't that pointless.
I'll probably get attacked for this, but I think the coin is an ok item. In first, you'll get bombarded by blue shells, red shells, ect. And if you're bad at driving like me, you'll often fall off the edge or hit bananas. Every fall or hit takes away *three* coins. The power gives *two* . I think they're useful, because you only really get them in first (I got it one time in 2nd, but it's rare)
Even though i dont play the game, and just watch too many videos about it, here are 2 from me :D 1. Make Blueshells fly like in DS and Wii, it felt really off when i saw that the first time, and if they really want an item like that, why not just implement the Bowser Shell from Double Dash? 2. Shock invicibility in the Canon, i think that it adds much more of a stratigic sense to the game if you as the one that holds the shock, needs to figure out the best way to use it :D
i think it is much more balanced than it was in mario kart 8 for wii u. it is impossible to get 2 coin items in your item slots at once so you can use that to your advantage to always have a defensive item while getting coins to max out your speed by cycling your items at the right time. also blue shells are a lot less common in mario kart 8 than in mario kart wii, they are less punishing, and you have a chance of being able to destroy it with a super horn.
I have an idea for a back thrown items. The item travels backwards RELETIVE to your speed. I'll explain. Imagine I'm driving 100 km per hour and I throw a shell backwards. The shell travels 200 km per hour. What it will do is to calculate the speed, it will do item speed minus your speed. The shell would shen go 100 km per hour. My speed ratings are not accurate btw
Yes it would be fantastic if the track randomization was much better. The current randomization leads to the repetition of many of the same tracks over and over again. So much so, that I even forgot Sherbet Land existed in this game because it had been so long since I played it last.
I think the online chat should be fixed. in the original game you can still chat while it was counting down but in the new game it goes away earlier than it used to.
Make it so boo can't steal items that are already deployed. my items get stolen by boo way too frequently when there's a red shell after me. or add a boo repellent item that makes you immune to boo for the remainder of the race.
I think the double dash item system needs to be brought back. It’s annoying when I can’t use a specific item in my inventory because it isn’t the first slot.
Make an item that officially blocks lightning. Example: Umbrella Even though you can block it with boos or bullets or stars it was not official lightning blocking
I kind of feel like triple bananas should be reverted to their prior state (being held behind you rather than circling around you). I personally don't like how many items there are that just punish you for getting somewhat close to another player (Triple Red and Green Shells, Triple Bananas, Super Horn, Piranha Plant, and the star). I will say that I'm fine with stars (especially since players only really get them if the are in the back half of the racers), but I feel as if having this many items that punish you for getting too close is a bit much. The Shells are all fine too since they usually are expended fairly quickly, but the Super Horn and Piranha Plant have designs that a formed around making players within a foot or two of you have a bad day. The original Triple bananas design was just fine in my opinion. Sure, having the equivalent of three defensive items in one hanging off of the back of your car with no effort may be a little powerful, but it really isn't functional too different from the modern design besides the fact that you now can't get near any side of a player who has triple bananas instead of just the back. I apologize for my ranting, though I appreciate anyone who took their time to read this. I know this won't be changed, but I just figured that I'd share my thoughts (which I am no expert, so I could be completely wrong).
6:50 I never knew you could hide your status in MK7... That would've saved me from that one annoying rDC glitch bitch I (and everyone else in the pro MK7 community) had to deal with almost 2 years ago...
One thing that HAS to be fixed is if someone got a shock infront of you and you don't have a star bullet or boo but you have shrooms and when he uses it you loose them so if people have a shock infront of you when he uses it you shouldn't got hit or loose you items!! That happened to me once and I WAS SO MAD!!!! So I want that to be fixed
I had to go through Donut Plains 3 five times once because people kept on getting chosen with random selections. I managed to lose 1000 VR because of it :(
I have one the Sports Bike is actually slower then it’s Speed stat implies so increase its speed cuz even with the Mktv Parafoil and the Cyber Slick wheels on the Daisy Sports Bike has a high speed stat but it’s noticeably slower then it’s stat implies cuz even tho it’s still somewhat fast it actually feels almost 5 times slower then its MK8 Wii U variant like as if it has little to no power in its engine same applies for the Same build using Rosalina instead of Daisy. Also did I mention the slower then the Sports Bike speed stat implies is extremely noticeable on 200CC when the player uses it so noticeable that the 200CC GBA Mario Circuit Baby Luigi ghost using the Sports Bike is faster then both the Rosalina and Daisy Sports Bike.
I don't know... I like the whole join a friend who is in another person's lobby system, it means I don't have be friends with the host in order to play, and I might make new friends in the process. But stalkers? Eh... Not my thing. Granted, honestly I DON'T want to play against you - no bad blood, just I don't know - I don't want to go off and play someone famous in a community because it feels more like wanting to play for fame than fun.
MK8DX's vr system: the offline point system mixed in with the online system what I mean by this that the same number of points you get when finishing a race in any the 12 positions in a offline race is added to your vr total!!
For example 1st place gets 15 extra vr points added to his total 2nd:12 extra points added 3rd: 10 extra points added and so on and so on Also the only place in which you lose more than 10 vr points is just 12th place No more!!!
1. Add the crown back to first place on the minimap during races
2. Nerf the +10 gain in Renegade Roundup to +5
3. In Renegade Roundup turn off friendly fire for the law, and increase invincibility when a renegade is freed from a cage.
4. Fix lag not allowing the law to chomp at renegades
5. Bring back the custom WW option
6. Make VR/BR less of a grind, buff to at least +50/-65
7. Make VR search more accurate, no more 9000-99999, make it more like MK7
8. Fix the delay between everyone voting and when a track starts to be picked
9. Give slight invincibility to players who manage to steal the shine in shine thief
10. Allow users to delete tournaments that have yet to be played (don't know if this was fixed from MK8)
One thing I'd really like to see is showing the hidden stats. It really doesn't make sense how they aren't shown to the players, especially because this game's vehicle combos heavily revolve around the mini-turbo stat.
I absolutely agree
yes
We should have the ability to choose the amount of cpus and which items are available when doing a VS match or custom tournament. The choices we have are extremely limited.
and the tracks. they had this in mk8 but not in deluxe
There's no Funky Kong, Diddy Kong, Birdo,Kamek, Hammer Bro or nabbit but we have Pink Gold Peach
Thats what needs to be fixed
Kamek and nabbit would be nice, but the hammer bro wouldn't, and birdo and diddy Kong didn't return because they wasn't use often in laws games, also funky Kong is my favorite, but it will just ruin MK8 online just like MKWII servers. People would use him and kill the experience. Only using him instead of other characters.
Hi I'm Kirby I think the reason for that because he was the best character in mkwii so I don't think this same problem would happen again unless they decide to make him op again
Games and Luigifan I get that the reason he was over used was because he was the highest stat character, and Daisy. But even without his stats, he was still a favorite
Hi I'm Kirby Guess that's true. Can't say I blame anyone though, I mean, have you seen his cutscenes/idle animations in tropical freeze?
I honestly would really want biddybug, ant troopers, chain chimp, the female goomba in odyessy and Pauline
Interesting...with the back half of this video, I get the impression that the Switch port for MK8D was rushed because those are all convenient polishes that were in MK8 WiiU already
That and most of the people who worked on MK8D went on to work on ARMS - if their focus is there, then MK8D won't get any attention.
Then again, I think they probably consider the 'improvements' from MK8WiiU to MK8D to be worth it regardless.
Remove first place bombs? How about removing 3 shocks in play at a time.
Hamish Brown
Actually, a shock holder can dodge another shock holder's shock so he gets to use the shock and that gives the third shock holder two shock dodges so he uses it and it messes up the server.
yup, so annoying
Hamish Brown BAM SHOCKDODGE WHILE HOLDING SHOCK
It was WAY worse in wii shocks were common and happened way to often i would rather mk8d's
Gabe Hodge true mkwii sucks
Glad that you brought up the fireball issue, probably the most important one aside from the lag hits.
The few thing not mentioned here were the ability to download more than 16 ghosts. Considering we have 200cc TTs that adds up to 96 tracks total, yet we can only download 16 ghosts??? I mean even mkwii let us have 32 downloaded ghosts.
The ability to join a regional race thats not your own simply by having a friend in the regional is dumb, and defeats the purpose of regional races in the first place.
Also some flags in MK8DX cant actually be used online because if you set your region to that country, it says that the nintendo online service isnt supported (not really a bug, but funny none the less)
Also get rid of DLC Track bias in the "random" race selection
Zach i agree a lot with the dlc track bias, i definetely noticed that dlc tracks get picked more often
Had some more things to add, I would keep the ability for you to guide reds into walls like mkwii, it adds some skill.
Also remove aimbot from greenshells thanks. (yes greenshells have aimbot, Bean discovered this in the original MK8, so its probably here too)
@Zach: can you link the green shell aimbot video?
I agree with all of this, especially the regional race thing, when I'm trying to play with my friend and randoms, the best option is regional, so its more specific, but then the room is flooded with people from random places, ruining the exclusivity.
I think they need to bring back the fake item block item. Loved that item. It will be missed.
The zsDUGGZ WOW I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE !!!
What about the boo from DS? I mean sure it needs nerfing but it has potential!
Ps: sorry if it already has the boo, i havent got the game
Agreed. We also need the mega mushroom from MKwii and the special items from double dash!! on the gamecube.
The zsDUGGZ The fake item box was TERRIBLE! 😖😖😖
The zsDUGGZ the N64 fake box is good since it has the same texture however the recent mario karts have failed.
Bullshet Bills should not be able to drop you off on sharp turns on 200cc
And speaking of bullshet Bills, they sometimes go slow. This needs to be fixed
Gregtendo 64 They go slow once it departures.
One minor thing ive noticed that still isnt fixed yet is the character sound effects that play in mktv and ghost replays - characters typically have multiple sound effects for whatever they do (ex. releasing a super mini turbo) and in mktv and ghost replays the game only plays one specific sound effect for each thing that they do instead of using all of the characters sound effects. Not that this is really a problem at all, just something i noticed, and this didnt happen in the original mk8
Demon ツ
>"The Switch is more powerful than the Wii U"
>No Mii face animations at launch
>Only one specific voice for certain actions in replays
Gg
I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed that ;)
No 1st place Bob-ombs? I've had WAY too much fun with 1st place Bob-ombs, don't take this away from me
ClarkWGrisJr EVIL
They are AMAZING especially when you put it in the double question boxes
ClarkWGrisJr so true! I love the bomb in the first place too but of course it should be kinda rare to get.
You'll still get bombs in first but decreases the chance to get one and nerf the hitbox on it
The bombs should stay for the 1st placed because the 2nd placed gets 290458 red shells, so that is actually fair enough :)
>> I want to switch the double items manually with the Y button!
>> MKTV Replays: Certain voice files aren't loaded while using a MT or Shroom.
>> When drivers hit the antigravity section they use a certain voice file once per race. They should be loaded everytime they hit the anti-G section
Delta Z Switch the double items is a good idea, but for people like me, it would be a bad idea use the “Y” bottom for switch them, becuase I use it for acelerate
P.D.: Sorry for my bad english, is not my natal language
Mauro Pacheco, Your better than English than me and it is my native language XD
NinjaShoe21 Thanks xD
..B-but I use the Y button to accelerate!
Delta Z No the A button Cause everyone uses the Y button to accelerate, i know the a button too, so maybe the r or l button, but i recommend everyone using the a button: use the y button instead of the a, Cause in 200cc you need to brake sometimes and then your thumb kind of hangs over the b button, when you use the a Button you can look backwarts easier Cause of the x button but i think braking is more important than looking backwarts and when you use the y button, pressing x isn’t even a problem!
Make the items client based. When lag is in the room, you shouldn't get 2 coins.
If they made this change, the lag would be like MKW where on your screen you wouldn't hit people as much, but at least you wouldn't be hit by stuff that isn't there. That's caused by not having the item positions stored locally, instead they use the server to tell where the items are.
That's a good idea except Client based mechanics can be rigged in some ways where as Server based mechanchnics are alot more secure as it's a server computing these things not the player's device. It's hard to avoid exploiters when it relates to items.
There are no servers, so it can’t be server based. *face palm*
Really? Oh well, I had no idea. xD
You get 2 coins normally when you hold the coin item, even in grand prix or offline vs mode
I think the red shell targeting system adds tension to the race and promotes quick thinking, but that's just me
Yes but it can make you waste an item you may needed for a Red Shell that was actually meant for you.
I only got one
REMOVE THE COIN ITEM
Joshua_Playz_Games idiot coins make you faster.
Joshua_Playz_Games Better yet, ban the coin as an item in the future Mario Kart games.
Jacob_? But coins shouldn't be an item. They don't provide defense nor offense.
PICT[/.\]CHAT but it helps balance out first place to where they don’t always get protection items like greens and bananas
Coins are trash as an item, I know that it will give you mini boost (kind of useless) but the item are pretty unnecessary. And i think that previous Mario Kart games are a lot more fun because it had more variety of items, unforgottable tracks, modes,online exclusive events,etc. And the electronic theme is kind of not fitting comparing with other Mario Kart games, yes I admit that the graphics are great but not much more further than that.
Don't take this as offence is just only my opinion.
Edit: The game also have no intro animation, no voice sound variation when choosing a character,no victory animation when winning cups (instead of this a replay of previous races), no automatic or manual drift option, the blue ramps (the ramps that give you a boost in Mario Kart Wii) nerfed difficulty in retro tracks, and also unlocking more than a half game content with coins is boring and repetitive.
*H e l me t l e s s M i i s*
SwagCrazyRobotYT Why? That's a bad idea! There is nothing wrong with the Miis having helmets at all! At least explain... please :(
o p t i o n t o h a v e h e l m e t l e s s m i i s
Things that still need to be fixed in MK8 Deluxe:
That Mankalor is still a Mario Kart god
Flamin' Funky "Dear Neetendowh
Smuggling items is way to easy. I always lose to this Dankalor guy. He clearly cheats, cuz stars in 1st is impossibru"
Um what about all the other godly MK8DX players?? (Including me)
- delete coin item
- fire flower like MK Double Dash
- no triple red shell in MP
- Super 8 and Triple banana manual equip
MXC ..fire flower is here..
I think he's talking about the effects of the fireball item in MKDD, where five fireballs are thrown at once.
U mean multiplayer with MP?
Every item Manual equip
Your so right man
You didnt mention the effect of getting hit by fire balls - in 7 fire balls only spinned you like bananas but now they stop and spin you just like shells does. So having a fire flower equals to 10 green shells with smaller hit box
-1. Add firehopping back in-
-2. Add demonsliding back in-
-3. Revert softdrifting back to the 45 degree angle so I can use a D-Pad-
4. Add snaking back in
U can still do that juke drift thing.
Jacob_? ???
PICT[/.\]CHAT | Yeah...about the first one in the list... How 'bout no?
How about yes?
New things to fix:
-Increase the immunity time after getting hit
-There’s this combo that goes REALLY fast (not telling what it is) and it feels like cheating so I want Nintendo SOOOO badly to fix the fact that it goes too fast plz
-Pink
-Gold
-Peach
that's not fair though because imagine how many people would win!
I've seen smurfers up close and personal hit delays are already being abused and it's not just in pro rooms either
Invincibility frames after being hit are already so long though.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Changes or Bug Fixes:
- Coin item should not be obtainable when you already have a max of 10 coins.
- Fire Flower item should be like Mario Kart 7, where only 3 fireballs can be in play at a time.
- Backward thrown Red Shell and Green Shell items should move slower.
- Backward dropped Bomb-omb items should have a smaller blast radius.
- Backward thrown Boomerang items should move slower and return to the player faster.
- You should only be able to hit a backwards dragged item if you hit it on your screen.
- On cases where you are hit by something and you use something to counteract that hit on the same frame, the counteract should take priority and you shouldn't be hit by that item.
- Red Shell and Spiny Shell items shouldn't slow down when they lock on a player.
- When multiple items are targeting you, you should see a warning for both items, not just one of them.
- You should not be able to get two of the same item from a double item box.
- The same track shouldn't be picked for at least 3 turns.
- The B button on the joycon should bring you to the previous player while spectating, like in Mario Kart 8.
- Warnings should show for Piranha Plant item in races and battles besides Renegade Roundup.
- Spiny Shell item should target the person with the most hits in Balloon Battle, the person with the most coins in Coin Runners, and the person with the shine in Shine Thief, like in Mario Kart Wii.
- Lightning item should make everyone lose a balloon, but not lose their items or get small, and only reward the user with 1 hit in Balloon Battle; make everyone lose half of their coins without losing items or shrinking in Coin Runners, act like it does in races in Renegade Roundup, and in Shine Thief.
- Manual equip for Triple Red Shell, Triple Green Shell, Triple Banana, Triple Mushroom, and Crazy 8 items.
Lol mk8d bugs
BLgotswag Why 143 likes?
I really like how you explained the issues and how you could possibly resolve them. Great video.
Something that needs fixed is the VR grouping system in worldwides. I have about 1200 VR, and normally I get picked with players that have about the same VR as me. However, since very few players have VR in the 5-digit VR, they get picked in random rooms. So sometimes there’s a room with players with ~1000 VR but one person has, like, 20000 VR.
Thank you it's been a issue since Wii U once that happens I'm sure no doubt they'll be salty I had big run-ins and fights with ignorant players like that
luckily there is a temporary fix until then only if players are good enough just put them in last, it's really no secret all they want are the points force them to lose more then they earn and they'll leave simple (it did wonders for me 😸)
Stop putting clone characters
"cough cough" pink gold peach
bring back R.O.B
Robinson De León NO
Cutie & Friends Adventures Why not? I actually liked him.
“Pink Gold Peach has a reason to exist” -NO ONE EVER!
I actually managed to frame perfect shock dodge in mk7. What happened is I delayed my star use, then activated it. I got shocked, but I traveled in full speed while spinning, and I didn't shrink. I also didn't lose coins.
Damn dude! Nice job.
Mankalor has that in one of his mkseven online races videos
0:38 Reds: Oh shit.
Besides the points brought up in the video they should also nerf the red shell so you can't be hit by them when you've been launched out of a cannon, also reduce the number of lightning bolts in play, have a cooldown on said lightning bolt and also make it that only those in front of you get struck by lightning. Also the bullet bill and Starman are way too slow, they should be as fast as they were in MKWii. Finally the whole get hit by items despite having protection. Eg having a triple Shell and then someone launches one back, it takes out your shell then hits you. Also allow for us to have free reign over what tracks we want picked when choosing in the lobby, like in MKWii. Lastly fix matchmaking in lobbies, so you're racing people of a similar rating is as you.
Blue Shell: higher frequency to prevent Mario Kart veterans from dominating the race very easily but at the cost of being destroyed by Bob-omb explosions and Lightning bolts
Lightning: a 3-second delay so it warns the racers before shrinking and making it easier for Shock dodges
Tbh I don’t think MK8 and MK8D is one of the Top Mario Karts imo. Graphics don’t mean anything, this game has many flaws
Like every other mario kart
yeah but the track design and features are glorious and then again, every game has it's bugs.
Rigby agreed
Rigby why are you everywhere?
because you toucha ma spaget ( yes I know it's stupid and what's it to ya
My idea of homing warnings are a normal warning(like we have now,) when a red or blue is near, and a recticle warning when you're being targeted. So that means a circle with rectangles pointing inwards.
In the earlier games, you actually could use a torpedo shell and red shell as traps.
The red shell would hone in on whoever passes it first while the torpedo shell would hone in on whoever is first place and passes it then.
Of course that got ELIMINATED.
I've got some
Green Shell: every time it hits a wall the amount of coins dropped by someone is reduced by 1 and if it hits a wall 4 times it breaks completely
Red Shell: 2nd-4th frequency and accuracy reduced so it can be dodged by drifting like MKDD
A friend of mine made a great point about the coin item, which was that they should be in less supply in first place, but be obtained in lower positions in the race and be more than 2 coins. Often when stuck in a pack of players, it is a lot harder to obtain coins because any player in front of you will pick them up, leaving you with scraps, or more often nothing. The coin item appearing for these players would help them get up to their max coin stack a lot easier, and stop them getting stuck in the pack. What this would mean for higher placed racers is more item diversity, and forces these racers to pick up coins on the track instead of perfectly traveling down every shortcut knowing full well they can pick up a double item box and refill their coin cache.
A lot of the balancing changes are quite extreme (bob-omb blast radius of a third?) but could stand to be done in a smaller way. Fireballs should despawn quicker after hitting a wall, which caused stand issues you see in the gameplay.
Also thankfully dragged item bug isn't too common.
More things I would fix.
1. Instead of choosing between either all items, no items, or one item, we should be able to pick and choose what items we want, like Smash.
2. Remove coins as a possible item.
3. Allow only one blue shell per race.
4. Only 6th place and below can get triple shells.
5. Bullet Bills can only drop off on straightaways.
Allow the option to join a game where you select whatever map you want without having only 3 options and a random. I liked the good ol' days of that even when everyone chose rainbow road.
Dang,you know EVERYTHING about mario kart (p.s my little brother loves your vids and always tries to get in your cup thingy)
The fire flower is my least favorite item so that fix would be very appreciated.
Totally agreed. However, I would remove smart bouncing, I would prefer it if green shells only bounced once or twice, I would like to have some kind of reaction time to the Boo steals, and I would either nerf red shells in 150cc or make them more uncommon.
I agree with 70% of the issues, especially the fire flower spam. It literally has no recovery time and I literally get hit 4 times in 2 seconds by that. And I always overpanic thanks to these false warnings.
I would also add that coins are lost way too easily. For every item hit (except for the fireflower, but that makes you lose 5 coins/second) the player loses 3 coins. Why? This is Mario Kart, so this idea itself is flawed. By this chaos, it is almost impossible to hold many coins. At least base it on MK7. I had to grind in time trial in order to unlock the Golden Glider.
I favour the coin item in first place, as it creates dynamic and action in the top positions, but please remove it from the 2nd place pool. Not only is the first place unthreatned now, but in spite of not even being first, the 2nd place will get spammed by (triple) reds, as they are even more common in 3rd/4th place.
Finally, *every sigle track* has to be recreated to adapt to 200cc. Without heavy break drifting the player spins out on most curves and half of the jump boosts can't be used, as the player is guarenteed to hug the next wall.
200cc is supposed o be really hard so it shouldn't be changed. YOU need to know how to play 200cc better
Interesting video, it's a very good idea to put passwords on the friend lobbies, it would surely be very useful when playing especially in Team Races.
I don't really mind red shells to be more common, just bring the wall-dodge back and make the coin appear less often.
I want an item switch. Im sick of boos stealing items for you. I really hope nintendo will update mk8d and put an item switch. Who agrees
The Y Button would be a pretty good usage for it!
Don't You Mean Switching One Item To Your Second Item
EXAMPLE: You Have A Coin Item And A Red Shell Item, And The Red Shell Is Your Second Item, Making You Have To Use Your Coin Item First, And A Guy Has Caught Up With You, While Very Close For The Race To Finish, So Pressing A Certain Button Will Allow You To Quickly Let You Use Your Red Shell, THEN Use The Coin Item.
Cutie & Friends Adventures Why do you capitalize every word? It’s annoying.
Preston Billion -_-
@@cutiefriendsadventures7129 it's been almost 3 years nothing has changed
Things they should fix...or definitely need in the game1. Item lag2. Diddy Kong3. Item spam 4. Demonsliding,snaking, and firehopping
Character Roster changes:
~Pink Gold Peach
~Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach (alternate universes? Double Cherries? Idek...)
~Give one of the Koopalings a slot, and 6 alternate costumes for the others
~add Funky Kong, Diddy, and Birdo
I honestly enjoy most of the things you talked about (regarding nerfing), because I enjoy MK for its friendship ruining attributes, not for its balance. I still agree with the buggy stuff like red shells cancelling each other and online invisible hits.
Idk if this is a bug/glitch but I often see 2 of the same person in online matches. They might be siblings or friends using the same username and mii but I see this in basically every lobby I join so it can get pretty suspicious at times.
I think that happens when you do 2 player online
Not a glitch, the second player can choose the same Mii and the same setup.
2 player mode
Great Vid, Mr. Mank! Keep Up The Good Work. We Love You!
When you have joycon drift on the right joycon or thumbstick for the pro controller, it still effects the game via the speed.
The integrity and stability of online and local wireless. There are times where I hit someone with a shell, and even though the animation gets triggered, it still shows them getting a boost while in a bit animation. I've also seen someone start feeding the engine at 3, and while it triggered the animation of jumping the start, it still have them the boost at the start of the race.
I like how you can dodge blue and red shells with tricks at the right time.
When you drive into an item box and you wanna stop it early....then you hear the character's horn which you don't heared in Mk8 Wiiu
I would personally adjust the map rotation so that some rarer courses like Bone-Dry Dunes, Bowser’s Castle, and DS Wario Stadium would appear more often and the often seen Sunshine Airport, SNES Rainbow Road (I feel both are incredibly overrated), and Wii Moo Moo Meadows less often.
Ryan Teo I can't remember the last time I was able to play Dolphin Shoals (when I finally was, Nintnedo DCed me. Sigh)
Agree with most of this. My thing is the item system. It's usually great but get rid of the coin item and why does second place get triple reds even though you have quite a lead? I think placement should still influence items more. I would be 100% okay with items if the coin wasn't present even with those reds.
Honestly, without the ability to see items, lightning is way too OP. They need to add a side screen with items on or the screen goes dark briefly before the shock, giving some time to dodge. I commented this on a live stream and Kevin actually noticed me
What I think needs to be fixed: Backthrowing shells acts like it did in Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart DS Drifting and Triple Bananas are behind you
When you look too deep in the black box... Damn i didnt even know some of them were possible
You made a lot of good points on this video. I applaud to you sir.
The fire flower thing was just mankalor rage
The fire flower doesn't need to be nerfed, but removed and replaced with a better item like the Fake Item Box or the Mega Mushroom
You completely forgot the fact that players online who are hit by items DO NOT slow down until they either pull out another item to "block" it, or finally slow down seconds later, which fucks up races. This is because of faulty netcode and lag.
BAM SHOCK DODGE 1:52
All these changes would be a great welcome, I hope the Devs take your ideas. 7:03 Me: Wait... what do I think needs to be changed? Mankalor: Oh boy. Me HMMMMMM... let me see... Mankalor: Here we go. Me: Gasp! I know what change we need! Mankalor: Please go away stalker. Me: you ready for my change idea? Are you shore? OK! Ready? HERE WE GO. Mankalor: He's gonna say it isn't he. Me:............. ALL THE CLONES SHOULD- Mankalor: Yes yes we already know, all the clones should be in the same slot with the original characters, you already said it a million times, we get it. Me:... I would still love that change and the roster would look less painful to see.
This I also one of the worst character rosters for a Mario Kart
Rigby | Nah, I don't think so. It has too much variety, it's feels really full, even though it has some pointless Characters. One of the worst character roster in the Mario Kart series is the Mario Kart 7 one, with pointless Characters like Wiggler, Honey Queen and Shy Guy, but this last one isn't that pointless.
Luis Romero way too many lightweights
Luis Romero if you think those characters are pointless, but not Waluigi, then we got a prob
How? It adds the characters from previous MKs except shity ones like Wiggler and the Queen Bee and annoying Funky Kong
I'm sorry but I just got really triggered when you said that our lord and saviour Waluigi is pointless. xD
Make the shine bigger and make it where the shines somewhere that doesn't give certain people a advantage
You make a lot of videos on Mario Kart 8. Is it like one of your favorite games of all time?
I'll probably get attacked for this, but I think the coin is an ok item.
In first, you'll get bombarded by blue shells, red shells, ect. And if you're bad at driving like me, you'll often fall off the edge or hit bananas. Every fall or hit takes away *three* coins. The power gives *two* .
I think they're useful, because you only really get them in first (I got it one time in 2nd, but it's rare)
i think blue shells in last place should purposely go into as many people as possible until it hits 7th place
that makes it useful in last place
Even though i dont play the game, and just watch too many videos about it, here are 2 from me :D
1. Make Blueshells fly like in DS and Wii, it felt really off when i saw that the first time, and if they really want an item like that, why not just implement the Bowser Shell from Double Dash?
2. Shock invicibility in the Canon, i think that it adds much more of a stratigic sense to the game if you as the one that holds the shock, needs to figure out the best way to use it :D
How to make 200cc funner:
Nerf roller wheels, streetle and biddy buggy.
Francisco Morales pipe frame and button.
when a blue shell gets sent to 1st and a other blue shell is in someones hand the first one go,s away
Take out blue shell and coin and make horns less rare
I usually hide my online status because my friends keep joining me, when I can get VR by myself.
What needs to be fixed:
Stop getting coins in 1st place
Stop getting coins in 1st place
Stop getting coins in 1st place
No blue shells!
Lol
i think it is much more balanced than it was in mario kart 8 for wii u. it is impossible to get 2 coin items in your item slots at once so you can use that to your advantage to always have a defensive item while getting coins to max out your speed by cycling your items at the right time. also blue shells are a lot less common in mario kart 8 than in mario kart wii, they are less punishing, and you have a chance of being able to destroy it with a super horn.
@@tysoncook5152 You sometimes do get two coins if there is lag and blue shells are you annoying
Couldn't agree more. I hate the thing with bombs, and the item dragging thing is the worst.
6:16 hey that's me! (Pablo)
Did you do this video after the stream?
I have an idea for a back thrown items. The item travels backwards RELETIVE to your speed. I'll explain. Imagine I'm driving 100 km per hour and I throw a shell backwards. The shell travels 200 km per hour. What it will do is to calculate the speed, it will do item speed minus your speed. The shell would shen go 100 km per hour. My speed ratings are not accurate btw
Any update since this? I feel like many of these are STILL issues...
Yes it would be fantastic if the track randomization was much better. The current randomization leads to the repetition of many of the same tracks over and over again. So much so, that I even forgot Sherbet Land existed in this game because it had been so long since I played it last.
I think the online chat should be fixed. in the original game you can still chat while it was counting down but in the new game it goes away earlier than it used to.
Once I dodged 10 fire balls they were targeting me
Make it so boo can't steal items that are already deployed. my items get stolen by boo way too frequently when there's a red shell after me. or add a boo repellent item that makes you immune to boo for the remainder of the race.
RAVAGE656 exaclty my star got stolen after i used it which made me go 10th in online mode
I think the double dash item system needs to be brought back. It’s annoying when I can’t use a specific item in my inventory because it isn’t the first slot.
Make an item that officially blocks lightning. Example: Umbrella
Even though you can block it with boos or bullets or stars it was not official lightning blocking
3:03
I think they should make backwards red shells same as greens because backwards reds can’t even target players
I went to school, did 2 hours of homework, and the second I was done, I watched this video
I kind of feel like triple bananas should be reverted to their prior state (being held behind you rather than circling around you). I personally don't like how many items there are that just punish you for getting somewhat close to another player (Triple Red and Green Shells, Triple Bananas, Super Horn, Piranha Plant, and the star). I will say that I'm fine with stars (especially since players only really get them if the are in the back half of the racers), but I feel as if having this many items that punish you for getting too close is a bit much. The Shells are all fine too since they usually are expended fairly quickly, but the Super Horn and Piranha Plant have designs that a formed around making players within a foot or two of you have a bad day. The original Triple bananas design was just fine in my opinion. Sure, having the equivalent of three defensive items in one hanging off of the back of your car with no effort may be a little powerful, but it really isn't functional too different from the modern design besides the fact that you now can't get near any side of a player who has triple bananas instead of just the back. I apologize for my ranting, though I appreciate anyone who took their time to read this. I know this won't be changed, but I just figured that I'd share my thoughts (which I am no expert, so I could be completely wrong).
6:50
I never knew you could hide your status in MK7... That would've saved me from that one annoying rDC glitch bitch I (and everyone else in the pro MK7 community) had to deal with almost 2 years ago...
Not having Diddy Kong has to be fixed.
You know what needs to be fixed?
Making N64 rainbow road a DECENT length. NOT TOO LONG, NOT TOO SHORT. Now with 200cc make it laps and not Sections!
One thing that HAS to be fixed is if someone got a shock infront of you and you don't have a star bullet or boo but you have shrooms and when he uses it you loose them so if people have a shock infront of you when he uses it you shouldn't got hit or loose you items!! That happened to me once and I WAS SO MAD!!!! So I want that to be fixed
I agree but fire balls should 100% be buffed
2:07 wow, a returning glitch from Wii U MK8. As seen in 100 ways to lose in Mario Kart 8.
I had to go through Donut Plains 3 five times once because people kept on getting chosen with random selections. I managed to lose 1000 VR because of it :(
Tanooki 116 Why are you bad at this easy course? I understand it's from other player's items.
Not gonna lie I played MKWii about 2-3 yrs but I don't even know that in MKWii if throw shells backward it will become slower
Me and my friends have been struggling with vr in the 200cc tourney. When ever we join each other the person who joins rank gets resets!
I have one the Sports Bike is actually slower then it’s Speed stat implies so increase its speed cuz even with the Mktv Parafoil and the Cyber Slick wheels on the Daisy Sports Bike has a high speed stat but it’s noticeably slower then it’s stat implies cuz even tho it’s still somewhat fast it actually feels almost 5 times slower then its MK8 Wii U variant like as if it has little to no power in its engine same applies for the Same build using Rosalina instead of Daisy. Also did I mention the slower then the Sports Bike speed stat implies is extremely noticeable on 200CC when the player uses it so noticeable that the 200CC GBA Mario Circuit Baby Luigi ghost using the Sports Bike is faster then both the Rosalina and Daisy Sports Bike.
I don't know... I like the whole join a friend who is in another person's lobby system, it means I don't have be friends with the host in order to play, and I might make new friends in the process.
But stalkers? Eh... Not my thing. Granted, honestly I DON'T want to play against you - no bad blood, just I don't know - I don't want to go off and play someone famous in a community because it feels more like wanting to play for fame than fun.
MK8DX's vr system: the offline point system mixed in with the online system what I mean by this that the same number of points you get when finishing a race in any the 12 positions in a offline race is added to your vr total!!
For example 1st place gets 15 extra vr points added to his total
2nd:12 extra points added
3rd: 10 extra points added
and so on and so on
Also the only place in which you lose more than 10 vr points is just 12th place
No more!!!
Super Blue Cameron Deluxe actually I get plus 17 in first place on line