like the seat of the rider cause not getting fixed in seat and pressing upper legs , following the horses back comfortable - only letting be the weight of body in the vertical sitting by the core of your belly muscles opening upper legs - not sliding or pushing with hips !....very good , so horse can do these beautiful transitions in canter ....so nice to watch for everyone with eyes , thanks !!
Ive a cob that learnt to canter like this and i get told its not normal🤣 one day she was rushing in canter to the point she would do a lap of the arena in seconds and then suddenly gone to collecting🤣
@@ohjeh7388 exactly, riding in and of itself is extremely difficult and just gets harder as we go through the levels. We all need to start somewhere and there is no end to learning this sport.
Behind the vertical is normal for dressage. It's considered dressage training. As for the back, it's a combination of the back being hallow because all they are doing is slowing the canter down with the reins instead of collecting the canter with the seat, and the horses confirmation in the hind end is less than ideal. Very poor hind end on this horse. Overall, I totally agree. Unnatural and not pretty or correct
This actually isn't that bad. She has fairly quiet hands. Is it 100% correct? No. But she is quite a good rider and she isn't hauling on the horses face or anything. You want to see bad head and neck position? Watch the last two Robert Dover videos on this channel. Atrocious. And he rewards the btv postures and completely ignores the signs of stress coming from the horse.....
@@ohjeh7388 I would of never guessed this was a lesson 🙄 Apparently you didn't actually take the time to read my post. I never stated she was a poor rider, I never stated she was an idiot, I never stated that she isn't learning and I never stated that she needs to be perfect. I simply stated that *The trainer is training her wrong, which is why the rider rides in LDR and BTV.* On top of that, conformation is something to take into consideration. The reason why his back is so "flat" is a combination of a hallow back from front to back riding and the hind end of this horse. I was pointing that out to the original commenter. Is conformation everything? No, but it definitely is a factor On top of everything, I feel 100% confident that I am, yes, a much better rider than Brooke. Just because you don't agree with something someone says doesn't mean make petty insults
@@ohjeh7388 For her frame, that's easy enough. She actually has a pretty decent frame. She has a tendency to drop her toes down while giving cues and looking down at the horses head, but that's very common in dressage and easy enough to fix. Besides, this is training. Looking down to make sure the horses head and neck are right is fine as long as it doesn't become a habit. On of that, she is chair seated. That could be from not being strong enough to hold her legs back to saddle fit. I would tell her to stop micromanaging, Everytime the horse goes a stride you don't need to tell him "Keep going". Let him carry himself, if I ask for a canter, I want you to canter and teach him to check his speed and rhythm. Let his head up and encourage him with as little aids as you can to keep the same speed and rhythm. This will not only make him a more finished horse, but it will help her frame. Fixing this horses canter can be done as she is working on her frame. I would start by getting this horse cantering with it's head up. A horse needs it's head up to balance and move correctly in the canter, which is why in classical the poll was to be the highest point and the nose in front of the vertical. Let the horse go whatever speed it wants in the canter with the head up and very gentle contact. To start to collect it and harness the power of the hind end, I would ask her to do half halt's with her seat only. Let the horses head remain up. If the horses head ducks behind the vertical, move him forward so his head comes up. As you said, we don't know how old this horse is and I also have no idea how long it has been in competition dressage for. If the horse has been in this training long it will take longer to have a nice canter. I would say they need to go back to the basics and rebuild their foundation.
Thank you for posting this! As a western rider I’m learning more about collection from dressage.
Good video, and lovely quiet rider...thanks for showing 😊
like the seat of the rider cause not getting fixed in seat and pressing upper legs , following the horses back comfortable - only letting be the weight of body in the vertical sitting by the core of your belly muscles opening upper legs - not sliding or pushing with hips !....very good , so horse can do these beautiful transitions in canter ....so nice to watch for everyone with eyes , thanks !!
Wow! Well groomed horse!
Very nice video, fantastic rider and horse
I think this rider is well ahead of me. Riding with a pelham isn't easy. I think both horse & rider will come along nicely. They are learning.
Me as a show jumper needing this
Well done.
Ive a cob that learnt to canter like this and i get told its not normal🤣 one day she was rushing in canter to the point she would do a lap of the arena in seconds and then suddenly gone to collecting🤣
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Terrible. Unnatural position for the horse. Flat back, neck tucked back with his nose being pulled to his chest. Great way to break another animal!
@@ohjeh7388 exactly, riding in and of itself is extremely difficult and just gets harder as we go through the levels. We all need to start somewhere and there is no end to learning this sport.
Behind the vertical is normal for dressage. It's considered dressage training.
As for the back, it's a combination of the back being hallow because all they are doing is slowing the canter down with the reins instead of collecting the canter with the seat, and the horses confirmation in the hind end is less than ideal. Very poor hind end on this horse.
Overall, I totally agree. Unnatural and not pretty or correct
This actually isn't that bad. She has fairly quiet hands. Is it 100% correct? No. But she is quite a good rider and she isn't hauling on the horses face or anything. You want to see bad head and neck position? Watch the last two Robert Dover videos on this channel. Atrocious. And he rewards the btv postures and completely ignores the signs of stress coming from the horse.....
@@ohjeh7388 I would of never guessed this was a lesson 🙄
Apparently you didn't actually take the time to read my post. I never stated she was a poor rider, I never stated she was an idiot, I never stated that she isn't learning and I never stated that she needs to be perfect.
I simply stated that *The trainer is training her wrong, which is why the rider rides in LDR and BTV.*
On top of that, conformation is something to take into consideration. The reason why his back is so "flat" is a combination of a hallow back from front to back riding and the hind end of this horse. I was pointing that out to the original commenter. Is conformation everything? No, but it definitely is a factor
On top of everything, I feel 100% confident that I am, yes, a much better rider than Brooke. Just because you don't agree with something someone says doesn't mean make petty insults
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For her frame, that's easy enough. She actually has a pretty decent frame. She has a tendency to drop her toes down while giving cues and looking down at the horses head, but that's very common in dressage and easy enough to fix. Besides, this is training. Looking down to make sure the horses head and neck are right is fine as long as it doesn't become a habit. On of that, she is chair seated. That could be from not being strong enough to hold her legs back to saddle fit.
I would tell her to stop micromanaging, Everytime the horse goes a stride you don't need to tell him "Keep going". Let him carry himself, if I ask for a canter, I want you to canter and teach him to check his speed and rhythm. Let his head up and encourage him with as little aids as you can to keep the same speed and rhythm. This will not only make him a more finished horse, but it will help her frame.
Fixing this horses canter can be done as she is working on her frame.
I would start by getting this horse cantering with it's head up. A horse needs it's head up to balance and move correctly in the canter, which is why in classical the poll was to be the highest point and the nose in front of the vertical. Let the horse go whatever speed it wants in the canter with the head up and very gentle contact.
To start to collect it and harness the power of the hind end, I would ask her to do half halt's with her seat only. Let the horses head remain up. If the horses head ducks behind the vertical, move him forward so his head comes up.
As you said, we don't know how old this horse is and I also have no idea how long it has been in competition dressage for. If the horse has been in this training long it will take longer to have a nice canter.
I would say they need to go back to the basics and rebuild their foundation.