Idk, Steven, I feel like you just need to leave this girl alone... no matter how hard you try, you just keep looping back to where you started, and she's literally killing you and making you look terrible. I can see the frustration in your face. Melania is just too much for you.
This boss and talking to Ana is the perfect immersion. She is the perfect embodiment of scarlet rot. There is an interesting irony of mrgirl giving effectively a therapy session on stream.
@@u3434-b4v Discussing relationships =/= therapy. When I'm talking to a friend and offering advice about a relationship I don't consider that therapy. A key point that MrGirl made in his Dr. K videos is that Dr. K has the weight of his credentials behind him as well as the fact that the people he was giving "therapy" to thought of it as therapy. Not sure if you're being disingenuous or you just didn't listen to the actual criticisms that were leveled against Dr. K.
Destiny and Dan were right from the very beginning, her only end goal is to do whatever it takes to still be able to talk to/about Destiny. She even admits as such around 8:00 Mr. Girl: “you just want him to empathize with you” D: “While she’s attacking me” A: “yeah”
A lot of mental health professionals have personal experiences with that and it can be very valuable in relating to patients. Admittedly, Ana does seem at the moment to need a decade or two of integrating before she can do that in a safe way.
When Mr girl started to suggest she end her relationship with destiny forever, she desperately said no before he could even finish. She's so attached to him it's sad.
That instant "no" after being asked if she wants to quit her relationship with Steven bonell the II just made me believe even more in the BPD theory. "Don't care + you have BPD" should be the only response to EVERYTHING she sais
BPD and NPD are frequently comorbid. NPD alone can explain some of her behaviour (inability to acknowledge wrongdoing, inability to empathize with any other human being, rage reactions when challenged). BPD alone can explain some of her behaviour (frantic efforts to avoid abandonment [in this case, highly dramatic and destructive efforts over the last two years], unstable relationships, radical mood swings). You can't explain all of her abnormal behaviour with a single personality disorder. You need BPD and NPD together.
Let me put it simply: Mr.Girl is a moron who projects his own weakness and insecurities on others and is unable to empathize with others being different than him. His self awareness is -5000.
I've only watched about half of this, but it's so damn obvious what is really going on here, as in what the real issue is. The reason Anna acts like this and continues to keep this dumb shit going is because she is still in love with Destiny. Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who sees it. This is such highschool drama. Sad
Been saying this from the beginning. Every time they bring up staying away and not interacting with Destiny she immediately says no to that option. She just can’t seem to take that route at all.
Holy shit, Destiny needs to stop talking to this girl. We all get it and we all agree - she is wrong, she behaves badly and she shouldn't do so. I get that it's easy content, but it's just mad depressing at this point. Then again, here I am engaging with said content. Curious what other people think about this. I'm sure I'm not the first to think this.
This woman is crazy. You can just hear in real time her latching onto different explanations for her behavior that make it okay and allow her to seem like she’s not a maniac
Despite how messed up it is that this conversation is happening for the hundredth time, and that Mr Girl of all people is moderating it, it is funny to picture this happening in real life where destiny and Anna are talking to a counsellor and Destiny is just playing Elden Rings on a switch during the entire session.
The dialogue about controlling behaviour, lack of control of the narrative, etc. was truly an insightfull moment for me. Thanks for reposting and making it possible.
3:53 Regarding that conversation of her bringing up BS studies about rape culture I'd say it's just moreso she isn't good at the research side of psychology. She took a study that wasn't even saying anything regarding"rape culture," read their results, and interpreted that in her own way as rape culture. That's not how you interpret research haha you don't take someone else's claims or results and then morph them to an idea that YOU think fits best. That's what their own discussion is for lmaoo. She also kept using the word "proved" which is fundamentally wrong when you talk about research. My mentors I research under in my grad program are like super anal about making sure we never say "this proves this" when it comes to psychological research, we only find evidence to further support a theory. But anyways yeah I'd say she just seems like she hasn't been trained to think scientifically but rather more of a clinical sense. I'm willing to bet the program she is in is probably more of like a clinical or even like a "Psy D." program which again aren't the best when it comes to teaching people rigorous research methodology techniques. For instance, the current program I am in is intended for students who want a PhD, it's heavy research oriented, but yeah not every psychology program is that way because most people just want the super soft clinical side of psychology without all the stats and "boring" shit haha the other program my university offers is a clinical route that from what I hear is less research oriented and more theory/clinical training. Most psych students take this route because they hate research. I was always the opposite, I thought clinical was boring and annoying, but I thought research and stats were so fun and interesting so I took the road less traveled hahaha But anyways yeah, that's my two cents as a current grad student. EDIT: really quick, I know it seems like I'm hating, and although I don't like what I've seen of Ana, I'd say she shouldn't give up. Every grad student goes through this crazy imposter syndrome stage ( I just had mine last semester lol), those feelings never really stop, you just get better at dealing with them with the knowledge you acquire throughout school. BUT she should fersure quit streaming, that just seems really bad for her mental health.
she has the terminally online tendencies to just believe narratives constructed around a study just because people wrote a story about it somewhere. a real, believes the headlines doesnt read further type.
Man I remember when I was kid and my mom would watch All my children and General Hospital and its like twitch tried to make a General Hospital for high school kids.
He probably knows that that fact is worthless when one wants to improve the situation. Steven doesn't give a fuck and Ana would get triple triggered if Steven is publicly bestowed a medal.
I don't know why Ana keeps getting attention. People think she is insane because she is insane. I don't like how people are starting to beat around the bush about this.
@@ajollyoldben You have to corral someone like Ana, if you give her free-range and let her have creative control over the narrative, you'll end up going nowhere at all and nothing will be accomplished whatsoever. Some hand-holding and leading with certain statements is required, because clearly she isn't responsible enough to be trusted and left to her own devices.
Fuck he shouldn't have agreed to "i have more control over people's perception of her than she does." Yes, he COULD have more but he doesn't. The amount of harm this chick does to herself simply when she opens her mouth is self evident. ROFL
Yep I hated how Mr girl led with that, Destiny has been appeasing her for 2 months and she still complains relentlessly about him. Give me a fucking break with bothsideism
@@aisan487 ye ppl don't think she's batshit crazy because destiny does. People think so because she says and does crazy shit. She just needs to get off internet n do Introspection
Trying to vindicate yourself in the minds of the entire Internet is like trying to drink the entire ocean with a bucket. It's completely hopeless. She'd be way better off just owning it and ignoring everything for a couple of years, no matter how much it bothers her.
Someone says they don't want to fuck their cat: Mr Girl: "I don't believe you think that" Ana says she is traumatized by Destiny doing literally nothing and that him being empathetic inside his own head will fix her: Mr Girl: "I believe you"
Mr girl did not handle well at all, but even if he said one can't convince Ana by logic, she has a goddamn severe mental illness that she refuses to work on and she willingly makes it worse and that's on her.
So weird, I think one of my friends has a similar mindset atm. He wants some kind of resolution that he will never get, and doesn’t know how to be ok without one
It’s like a windup toy that starts itself over and over. I think people usually acclimate to thing but it seems like it’s a series of ups and downs over and over.
For the trailer clips the editor has overlapped them a tiny bit so it sounds like they are talking over eachother which can sound a lot like a natural heated convo
She's looping because of the dimensional merge. Multiple parallel universes are merging into one timeline creating many instances of this conversation.
You'd have to ask him, but the reason I wouldn't go that route is because it wouldn't do anything besides give her something else to point at to try and legitimize her claims. She isn't going away no matter what, so all he can do is softly debunk anything crazy she says to stay as much on the right side of things as possible.
Why do people keep trying to like repair this relationship? I don't want to put words in Destiny's mouth but it seems pretty fucking clear he'd be happy to never talk to her again.
I don't think the person with the most bad faith interpretations of mr girl could watch this and come away thinking his intentions in this were honorable as fuck.
Basically Anna knows when she attacks Steven he'll try and distance himself. At the same time, she will complain that hes distant. Shes saying something to get a reaction and then complaining when she knows what will happen.
Anna insults and lies about Destiny Destiny distances himself Anna gets upset and cries about abuse for the 1000x time And people try to blame Destiny for some reason Loop The only real things I learned from this is that Destiny does take some personal responsibility for her decline, but tries way too hard to appease her to the point that her only existance seems to be getting his attention.
I honestly thought things were resolved between them privately when they were on the same panels and when I hadn’t heard anything about her in such a long time…
I can't with this girl, "I said he had a girlfriend at the time!" Girl that has 0 to do with you and you know it. Finding things to just make Steven the bad guy won't make anyone believe what you accuse him of.
Mr Girl travels the land, grabbing the wrong ends of sticks as he goes. There's no situation he can't make worse. Just watch him ride by as he dodges every relevant point.
46:19 i think this very manipulative thing to do bc if destiny where to give her that false empathy Destiny could also take it away very easily and that would keep her in a endless loop but destiny is trying to teach her that other people are not enclined to cater to your feelings and that she needs to think about the things she is doing bc if it hurts her so much she should just step a side and comeback once she is ready to speak about it without blaming him how she feels. My grammar prob sucks but i want to hear ppls thoughts about this
I genuinely think destiny is delusional sometimes/maybe most of the time. His example of Ana saying "really mean" things about him was that she said it was karma that he got banned on Twitch. There is no way the man who; -tells people they are subhuman -calls people the R word -berates people on Twitter and stream if they have any negative or criticism/disagrees with him and lectures them that they need to get off the internet if they can't handle it; is offended or hurt at something so simple as that... if he is, then he is much more sensitive than he lets on. That would not be an issue and is okay, BUT it leaves him no room for him to talk shit about other people being more sensitive than him about any given subject. Ana says she's glad he got banned and he wants sympathy for that???? Really? He's said way more awful things about many different people, some who have issues with him, some who he just gets triggered by their random tweet that has nothing to do with him and goes as hard as he can on randoms. I'm not saying Ana was always in the right , but he definitely has done shitty things to her and streams his lectures to her like she's his kid or some weird shit. He also has his orbiters come in and say things on his behalf and lecture her on their streams as well. It's fucking weird. Maybe it's not something he's actively doing right now, but he took a break from shitting on Ana before and then went back to the same antics. He can say it's on her if she brings it up, but he does not have to acknowledge it or mention it at all. He has already completely discredited her, so anything she says about him everyone is going to disregard. He knows this, so it's pointless for him to feed into it or acknowledge it any way. It would and does just give more traction and more eyes on it. All these people are fucked up and insanely manipulative, hardly anyone can handle any form of criticism and destiny especially seems to not have a realistic perception of himself bc he always does everything right and is never wrong. I'm obviously exaggerating to a degree about him needing to always be right, but it's very frustrating when he is going in on someone for some shit that he does as well, he's just not so blatant about it and masks/reframes it better. he also has an uncanny ability to change the narrative in his favor. Most people aren't as gifted at altering audiences' perception of events. Destiny is phenomenal at it. I'm sure he knows it.
Honestly don't know why destiny keeps in contact with her. He's never going to give her what she wants and she just seems hurt by the whole situation. This doesn't seem healthy for either party involved.
Mr. Girl lives in his own reality at this point. SIMP-ly dying with unrequited Lolly-Love for Ana. It’s a little too on the nose. He needs to watch the other insane attempts to get this stalker off Destiny’s back.
I feel like she does listen to the criticism, it goes into her head but some where along the way the message of the criticism gets turned into the opposite of what was intended. Someone will tell her to go right and she’ll think they are telling her to go left.
At 23:40, that resonates with me because I made a comment on a random video on Stardusts or another TH-camrs channel like months ago or something and Ana responded to me with like a 10 paragraph post about why I was wrong and how Destiny was an emotionally abusive monster. I chatted back and forth a little in the comment section but eventually I stopped because she seemed completely delusionasl.
This girl isn't dumb or malignant, she's just too immature to have realized that you can't really explain someone else's behavior without the risk that you'll be proven completely wrong about their motives in the future. It's a common thing in people who grow up in environments where they're never confronted with "nastyness"(people doing bad things because they're desperate/drunk/high/psychotic/assholes/ignorant/scammers/etc.) If you're not confronted with minor injustices in your youth, they'll seem major injustices when you're an "adult".
@@Va11idus , it's not meant as an excuse. Her sheltered upbringing has clearly produced a 30yo immature brat, who can't even see that's she's extremely fragile as well as emotionally unstable.
It's so great that everyone agreed to never talk about this drama ever again and went on to truly honour that agreement forever.
Bro! First rule of fight club!
@@VinnieGer th-cam.com/channels/8LLarBWvY1FAL5uqKkie3w.html
This will age like 2% milk sadly:/
Thank god! RESOLVED FOREVER!
Times are tough for Steven. Not that many (sane) people left to talk to i guess
Idk, Steven, I feel like you just need to leave this girl alone... no matter how hard you try, you just keep looping back to where you started, and she's literally killing you and making you look terrible. I can see the frustration in your face. Melania is just too much for you.
Had me in the first half
lul
High IQ play.
Totally got me too before the old switcheroo
This is what we call in the bizz a pro gamer maneuver
This boss and talking to Ana is the perfect immersion. She is the perfect embodiment of scarlet rot. There is an interesting irony of mrgirl giving effectively a therapy session on stream.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ENOUGH. What happened to the "no live therapy on stream, fuck Dr. K" shit?
Oooff.. we dont wanna go with the therapy route, we know how much mr.girl doesn't like streaming "therapy" 🙄
@@u3434-b4v why fuck Dr.K
@@u3434-b4v almost like mr. Girl is a clueless hack who people only listen to cause destiny likes him (for some reason)
@@u3434-b4v Discussing relationships =/= therapy. When I'm talking to a friend and offering advice about a relationship I don't consider that therapy. A key point that MrGirl made in his Dr. K videos is that Dr. K has the weight of his credentials behind him as well as the fact that the people he was giving "therapy" to thought of it as therapy. Not sure if you're being disingenuous or you just didn't listen to the actual criticisms that were leveled against Dr. K.
Triggers the fuck out of me that Ana’s end goal is to say enough mean shit about destiny that they end up on another one of these therapy livestreams
Destiny and Dan were right from the very beginning, her only end goal is to do whatever it takes to still be able to talk to/about Destiny. She even admits as such around 8:00
Mr. Girl: “you just want him to empathize with you”
D: “While she’s attacking me”
A: “yeah”
She wants to be an Orbitor
The relationship she's content with is this bi-weekly couples counceling.
It’s like not being able to stop doing drugs or smoking :p
Her being a therapist is like Beetlejuice being a physicist
At least Beetlejuice attended Juilliard and Harvard business school
Or Beetlejuice being a therapist
What a callback
@@ihtenubz9697 Beetlejuice would be a better therapist he'd make me feel better
A lot of mental health professionals have personal experiences with that and it can be very valuable in relating to patients. Admittedly, Ana does seem at the moment to need a decade or two of integrating before she can do that in a safe way.
I don't understand how 2x speed Ana still talks slower than The Quartering at normal speed.
bro... you fuckin killed her
th-cam.com/channels/8LLarBWvY1FAL5uqKkie3w.html
@@jabawoky98 th-cam.com/channels/8LLarBWvY1FAL5uqKkie3w.html
Oof, the fact that you know how fast or slow the quartering talks says more about you bro
@@steet2 that he watches youtube
"I feel like he ignores how stressful & painful my attempt to ruin his life was" -AnnaVoir
*snort*
Mr girl is actually perfect for this
She hates how people characterize her as a stalker
And he gets called a P word by everyone
yeh but she's a stalker and he isn't a p.
Day 4, life support alone won’t be able to keep me going, i need that content right in my feeed
Where tf did he go did he seriously just start traveling
@@yermil890 he’s in new york then i think texas and a few other places for live events and stuff, 2 weeks off streaming apparently
@@nickb1241 ohhhhhh
@@nickb1241 2 WEEEEEKKS?????? WTF
When Mr girl started to suggest she end her relationship with destiny forever, she desperately said no before he could even finish. She's so attached to him it's sad.
That instant "no" after being asked if she wants to quit her relationship with Steven bonell the II just made me believe even more in the BPD theory.
"Don't care + you have BPD" should be the only response to EVERYTHING she sais
Im a vulnerable narcissist theory enjoyer
BPD and NPD are frequently comorbid. NPD alone can explain some of her behaviour (inability to acknowledge wrongdoing, inability to empathize with any other human being, rage reactions when challenged). BPD alone can explain some of her behaviour (frantic efforts to avoid abandonment [in this case, highly dramatic and destructive efforts over the last two years], unstable relationships, radical mood swings). You can't explain all of her abnormal behaviour with a single personality disorder. You need BPD and NPD together.
Oh my God this is exactly what I needed today
It never ends.
Destiny: I am not, I really don't care.
Mr.Girl: But you are! I know that you are!
Destiny: No I really am not.
Mr.Girl: I think you are!
Let me put it simply: Mr.Girl is a moron who projects his own weakness and insecurities on others and is unable to empathize with others being different than him.
His self awareness is -5000.
I feel like happens in every discussion Mr Girl has, regardless of who it's with.
I've only watched about half of this, but it's so damn obvious what is really going on here, as in what the real issue is. The reason Anna acts like this and continues to keep this dumb shit going is because she is still in love with Destiny.
Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who sees it. This is such highschool drama. Sad
Been saying this from the beginning. Every time they bring up staying away and not interacting with Destiny she immediately says no to that option. She just can’t seem to take that route at all.
So clear
Yeah so in that regard I kind of feel bad for her, she is acting very bitchy all the time to Destiny though so I don’t know
She got that Juno Syndrome
Yeah could be love, could be clout and could be mental illness. I personally think it is for clout
Holy shit, Destiny needs to stop talking to this girl. We all get it and we all agree - she is wrong, she behaves badly and she shouldn't do so. I get that it's easy content, but it's just mad depressing at this point.
Then again, here I am engaging with said content. Curious what other people think about this. I'm sure I'm not the first to think this.
We’re looping too but it’s the content loop.
Melania is pretty powerful
i watch Destiny exclusively for the Anna content.
This woman is crazy. You can just hear in real time her latching onto different explanations for her behavior that make it okay and allow her to seem like she’s not a maniac
The pulling the cats tail thing is such a based parallel of the situation
So sick of this abuser ana always getting handled with kid gloves smh
50:12
Mr Girl being sentimental interrupted by: “DIDN’T SAY SIMON SAYS! BBBBRRRRRRRR!!!!!!”
Despite how messed up it is that this conversation is happening for the hundredth time, and that Mr Girl of all people is moderating it, it is funny to picture this happening in real life where destiny and Anna are talking to a counsellor and Destiny is just playing Elden Rings on a switch during the entire session.
I’d pay a significant amount to be able to witness that
It’s so cool how this situation was settled in such a mature way and no one brings it up anymore in November of 2022 🙏🏻 love to see it
The dialogue about controlling behaviour, lack of control of the narrative, etc. was truly an insightfull moment for me. Thanks for reposting and making it possible.
The fragile detente Dylan negotiated lasted way longer than I ever would have expected.
Dylan worked wonders in that video to stop Ana from talking about Destiny for months.
I am Melania, Blade of Miquella.
I love how ana constantly tries to solicit sympathy and calming words from Max in this conversation.
Did she have any idea who she was talking to?
Oh buddy she knows (2nd convo) and what's even weirder is that she's allowing him into her personal space knowing who he is...
@@0doublezero0 Could Max potentially replace Destiny as Anna's "target" hmmm
@@joaor3357 She's pretty disgusted by MrGirl so I'm not sure...
Mr.Girl knocked it out of the park
Absolutely, he should do more live therapy sessions on stream.
3:53
Regarding that conversation of her bringing up BS studies about rape culture I'd say it's just moreso she isn't good at the research side of psychology.
She took a study that wasn't even saying anything regarding"rape culture," read their results, and interpreted that in her own way as rape culture.
That's not how you interpret research haha you don't take someone else's claims or results and then morph them to an idea that YOU think fits best. That's what their own discussion is for lmaoo.
She also kept using the word "proved" which is fundamentally wrong when you talk about research. My mentors I research under in my grad program are like super anal about making sure we never say "this proves this" when it comes to psychological research, we only find evidence to further support a theory.
But anyways yeah I'd say she just seems like she hasn't been trained to think scientifically but rather more of a clinical sense.
I'm willing to bet the program she is in is probably more of like a clinical or even like a "Psy D." program which again aren't the best when it comes to teaching people rigorous research methodology techniques.
For instance, the current program I am in is intended for students who want a PhD, it's heavy research oriented, but yeah not every psychology program is that way because most people just want the super soft clinical side of psychology without all the stats and "boring" shit haha the other program my university offers is a clinical route that from what I hear is less research oriented and more theory/clinical training. Most psych students take this route because they hate research.
I was always the opposite, I thought clinical was boring and annoying, but I thought research and stats were so fun and interesting so I took the road less traveled hahaha
But anyways yeah, that's my two cents as a current grad student.
EDIT: really quick, I know it seems like I'm hating, and although I don't like what I've seen of Ana, I'd say she shouldn't give up. Every grad student goes through this crazy imposter syndrome stage ( I just had mine last semester lol), those feelings never really stop, you just get better at dealing with them with the knowledge you acquire throughout school. BUT she should fersure quit streaming, that just seems really bad for her mental health.
she has the terminally online tendencies to just believe narratives constructed around a study just because people wrote a story about it somewhere. a real, believes the headlines doesnt read further type.
I'm not that into Mr Girl but this is the perfect subject for his weirdo style. Anna has no idea how to deal with it. Megalolz
Man this aged like milk
Man I remember when I was kid and my mom would watch All my children and General Hospital and its like twitch tried to make a General Hospital for high school kids.
What Max fails to understand is that Destiny actually is a saint given the patience with which he continues to approach these conversations
He probably knows that that fact is worthless when one wants to improve the situation. Steven doesn't give a fuck and Ana would get triple triggered if Steven is publicly bestowed a medal.
@@hartyewh1 mrgirl was constantly wrong and saying dumb shit tho
I don't know why Ana keeps getting attention. People think she is insane because she is insane. I don't like how people are starting to beat around the bush about this.
I'm convinced Steven finds her insanity attractive
@@KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES Friendly reminder that he continued to call her "princess" after Ana Saga parts one and two dropped.
I’m so glad Zirka got nowhere near this discussion. MrGirl is the MVP of the discourse and the only one that can meaningfully mediate
Mediate? That guy was simping for Ana. He is a loser.
If by mediate you mean put words into Ana's mouth. This is not mediation.
@@ajollyoldben You have to corral someone like Ana, if you give her free-range and let her have creative control over the narrative, you'll end up going nowhere at all and nothing will be accomplished whatsoever. Some hand-holding and leading with certain statements is required, because clearly she isn't responsible enough to be trusted and left to her own devices.
Yikes
Fuck he shouldn't have agreed to "i have more control over people's perception of her than she does." Yes, he COULD have more but he doesn't. The amount of harm this chick does to herself simply when she opens her mouth is self evident. ROFL
Yep I hated how Mr girl led with that, Destiny has been appeasing her for 2 months and she still complains relentlessly about him. Give me a fucking break with bothsideism
@@aisan487 ye ppl don't think she's batshit crazy because destiny does. People think so because she says and does crazy shit. She just needs to get off internet n do Introspection
ITS BEEN LIKE TWO YEARS, I CANT HANDLE IT
AHHHHHHHHH I AM CONSOOOOOOMING THE LOOOOOOPING
I imagine Anna had her fingers in her ears the entire time and was just doing the ahego face staring at destiny's webcam for the duration of the hour
Lmfao x'DD
Trying to vindicate yourself in the minds of the entire Internet is like trying to drink the entire ocean with a bucket. It's completely hopeless. She'd be way better off just owning it and ignoring everything for a couple of years, no matter how much it bothers her.
Someone says they don't want to fuck their cat: Mr Girl: "I don't believe you think that"
Ana says she is traumatized by Destiny doing literally nothing and that him being empathetic inside his own head will fix her: Mr Girl: "I believe you"
Tbf ana is a literal nuke, mrgirl was just trying to defuse her without setting off an explosion
Mr girl did not handle well at all, but even if he said one can't convince Ana by logic, she has a goddamn severe mental illness that she refuses to work on and she willingly makes it worse and that's on her.
That cat was irresistibly sexy though, so I say it checks out.
Based
This is 6 months ago. PLEASE tell me you weren't sexting during this time dude, you said it'd been going on for a year right...?
They were
Rico
So weird, I think one of my friends has a similar mindset atm. He wants some kind of resolution that he will never get, and doesn’t know how to be ok without one
It’s like a windup toy that starts itself over and over. I think people usually acclimate to thing but it seems like it’s a series of ups and downs over and over.
Torally missed this one.
Torally
For the trailer clips the editor has overlapped them a tiny bit so it sounds like they are talking over eachother which can sound a lot like a natural heated convo
The fact that destiny was still fucking around with her during this is crazy gaslighting
She's looping because of the dimensional merge. Multiple parallel universes are merging into one timeline creating many instances of this conversation.
Pump it in my veins oh lord.
It’s so funny to me that Mr Girl of all people was the one who gave the most calm, well thought out intro to all of this lmao
Why him of all people? He’s always calm like this
Because he is abusive so of course he understands his tribe. It’s the joker talking to his child. Psycho family
I thought this was over! Lol
It’s never over. It will never end
It just started, don't be weird
Of course it would take someone so alien to normal human interaction like Mr Girl to talk to Ana
why doesnt destiny opt for the nuclear option? doesnt seem like it would hurt him and if this woman is defending bad bunny and kefflas why not?
You'd have to ask him, but the reason I wouldn't go that route is because it wouldn't do anything besides give her something else to point at to try and legitimize her claims. She isn't going away no matter what, so all he can do is softly debunk anything crazy she says to stay as much on the right side of things as possible.
It would look very bad in the public's eye to see a massive streamer destroying a tiny streamer women claiming to have been abused by said streamer.
This drama has been like crack to me over the last few days. She is so infuriating.
%100 this is her way of staying relevant, it's fake she is just playing a character and she will keep doing it for as long as people let her.
Kind of a weird interpretation seeing as her entire reputation is being a crazy destiny orbiter.
nah
Oh shit is it this time of year again?
This vod needs The Moutain Goats No Child playing lightly in the background
“I don’t like the question how are you” “How’s it going Ana!”
Oh, its a cross over episode! My favorite :)
Bro, why would you post the boring ass half of this conversation? Rewind 45 minutes from the start of this and we got fireworks
The fact that this is still going on is astounding...
Why do people keep trying to like repair this relationship? I don't want to put words in Destiny's mouth but it seems pretty fucking clear he'd be happy to never talk to her again.
I’m surprised this is still up
I don't think the person with the most bad faith interpretations of mr girl could watch this and come away thinking his intentions in this were honorable as fuck.
Basically Anna knows when she attacks Steven he'll try and distance himself. At the same time, she will complain that hes distant. Shes saying something to get a reaction and then complaining when she knows what will happen.
Can someone just summarize this whole arc for me?
Anna insults and lies about Destiny
Destiny distances himself
Anna gets upset and cries about abuse for the 1000x time
And people try to blame Destiny for some reason
Loop
The only real things I learned from this is that Destiny does take some personal responsibility for her decline, but tries way too hard to appease her to the point that her only existance seems to be getting his attention.
I honestly thought things were resolved between them privately when they were on the same panels and when I hadn’t heard anything about her in such a long time…
She indulges in it because she likes it, she never wants this to end, she wants steven to give into her.
This was actually a really good talk after mrgirl hopped in. I learned a bit that day.
I don't know everything about the Anna stuff, but it's frustrating how she's being treated with kid gloves.
To think Mr Girl then goes on to meet Lav and the whole best friend facade goes out the window.
I thought it was a video from last year. What.
I can't with this girl, "I said he had a girlfriend at the time!" Girl that has 0 to do with you and you know it. Finding things to just make Steven the bad guy won't make anyone believe what you accuse him of.
Mr Girl travels the land, grabbing the wrong ends of sticks as he goes. There's no situation he can't make worse. Just watch him ride by as he dodges every relevant point.
i like mrgirl
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46:19 i think this very manipulative thing to do bc if destiny where to give her that false empathy Destiny could also take it away very easily and that would keep her in a endless loop but destiny is trying to teach her that other people are not enclined to cater to your feelings and that she needs to think about the things she is doing bc if it hurts her so much she should just step a side and comeback once she is ready to speak about it without blaming him how she feels.
My grammar prob sucks but i want to hear ppls thoughts about this
I cant stand this chicks vocals. They hit all the right notes in my brain to trigger the caveman tribal parts to protect, and its honestly annoying.
She seamlessly switches between her cute, upset, angry, and despondent voices/mood I hate it so much
The wild part is, "I have to keep explaining myself to random chatters in my stream" Maam you make me want to have a botched brain surgery
Can we get the vod of there chat before mr.girl comes on?
15:09 mrgirl being almost self-aware? no way
59:59 and even trying to get Destiny to lie just to be nice?
we truly are in a new era
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On today’s episode of Dr. G
"I feel like" Well maybe if you started thinking instead of feeling you'd have some sort of rational conclusion.
I genuinely think destiny is delusional sometimes/maybe most of the time. His example of Ana saying "really mean" things about him was that she said it was karma that he got banned on Twitch. There is no way the man who; -tells people they are subhuman -calls people the R word -berates people on Twitter and stream if they have any negative or criticism/disagrees with him and lectures them that they need to get off the internet if they can't handle it; is offended or hurt at something so simple as that... if he is, then he is much more sensitive than he lets on. That would not be an issue and is okay, BUT it leaves him no room for him to talk shit about other people being more sensitive than him about any given subject.
Ana says she's glad he got banned and he wants sympathy for that???? Really? He's said way more awful things about many different people, some who have issues with him, some who he just gets triggered by their random tweet that has nothing to do with him and goes as hard as he can on randoms. I'm not saying Ana was always in the right , but he definitely has done shitty things to her and streams his lectures to her like she's his kid or some weird shit. He also has his orbiters come in and say things on his behalf and lecture her on their streams as well. It's fucking weird. Maybe it's not something he's actively doing right now, but he took a break from shitting on Ana before and then went back to the same antics. He can say it's on her if she brings it up, but he does not have to acknowledge it or mention it at all. He has already completely discredited her, so anything she says about him everyone is going to disregard. He knows this, so it's pointless for him to feed into it or acknowledge it any way. It would and does just give more traction and more eyes on it.
All these people are fucked up and insanely manipulative, hardly anyone can handle any form of criticism and destiny especially seems to not have a realistic perception of himself bc he always does everything right and is never wrong. I'm obviously exaggerating to a degree about him needing to always be right, but it's very frustrating when he is going in on someone for some shit that he does as well, he's just not so blatant about it and masks/reframes it better. he also has an uncanny ability to change the narrative in his favor. Most people aren't as gifted at altering audiences' perception of events. Destiny is phenomenal at it. I'm sure he knows it.
i need more dan content
She’s still on ts? I’m fairly new but I thought this happened years ago
Why is still going on?
Money and easy content
Because the girl won’t stop
Is there where the Ana arc ended? Shes gone right?
34:30 "Steven decides what is and isn't true"
LMAOOOOOhe'snotwrongOOOOOO
When she says "yeh" i get the feeling she doesn't mean "yeh" and will go back to stalker more next stream.
Mr. Girl.... the new Dr. K?
Didint know he was licensed proffesional.
@@johnlonne7062 Dr. K hasn’t killed anyone either
@@casebased8391 Someone died on Dr. K's watch though.
@@johnlonne7062 You clearly haven't seen him play Smash, then.
Honestly don't know why destiny keeps in contact with her. He's never going to give her what she wants and she just seems hurt by the whole situation. This doesn't seem healthy for either party involved.
Mr girl's is sometimes a master of emotions, especially other's
Mr. Girl lives in his own reality at this point. SIMP-ly dying with unrequited Lolly-Love for Ana. It’s a little too on the nose. He needs to watch the other insane attempts to get this stalker off Destiny’s back.
I hope the whole stream isnt him failing the vigor check in ER
I feel like she does listen to the criticism, it goes into her head but some where along the way the message of the criticism gets turned into the opposite of what was intended. Someone will tell her to go right and she’ll think they are telling her to go left.
At 23:40, that resonates with me because I made a comment on a random video on Stardusts or another TH-camrs channel like months ago or something and Ana responded to me with like a 10 paragraph post about why I was wrong and how Destiny was an emotionally abusive monster.
I chatted back and forth a little in the comment section but eventually I stopped because she seemed completely delusionasl.
...why did he stream this?
3:48 fuck when did ana become so based.
This girl isn't dumb or malignant, she's just too immature to have realized that you can't really explain someone else's behavior without the risk that you'll be proven completely wrong about their motives in the future.
It's a common thing in people who grow up in environments where they're never confronted with "nastyness"(people doing bad things because they're desperate/drunk/high/psychotic/assholes/ignorant/scammers/etc.) If you're not confronted with minor injustices in your youth, they'll seem major injustices when you're an "adult".
Bro she's like 30. You can only use the "immature" excuse for so long.
@@Va11idus , it's not meant as an excuse. Her sheltered upbringing has clearly produced a 30yo immature brat, who can't even see that's she's extremely fragile as well as emotionally unstable.
@@Va11idus she's definitely been sheltered
Dam. Mr girl is on his therapy relations flow
Interesting seeing mrgirl pull a Dr k one lmao