She probably wasn't saying it wasn't a big deal that he isn't the father, seems like she meant that they already had a discussion that it could be someone else's so its not like she was hiding anything. Maybe
@LifeWitJade I have a cousin her nickname is Smurf, lol. She was a lil premie baby that's how she got her nickname. She grown now & we still call her Smurf.
Before we start judging and coming down hard on the mother of the child can we please stop and look at the situation of the mother growing up in foster care homes in which she may have been abused and taken advantage of by ppl in and out of her life. I have sympathy for the mother as well as her children ❤️
My thoughts exactly. She was young with no support or guidance. JM could’ve been a bit easier on her but it’s also equally important that she as a now adult clearly s acknowledge that the plaintiff might not be the father rather than mince words. She also needs to choose her words more carefully in asserting it’s “no big deal.” It certainly is a big deal to not be able to tell your child who their father is
@@PrettyColorsDoe that’s a great point but if she hasn’t been taught how to decipher the importance of knowing who her child’s father is, because she may not consider that’s important to her child henceforth she was abandoned by both her mother and father so she would not understand that it’s important to know who the father of her child is.
@@PrettyColorsDoeplease trust me when I say that I’m not trying to make excuses for her but I just think she deserves some grace because she was in foster care for her childhood. Judge Mathis has even acknowledge the mental, physical and emotional abuse that takes place in foster homes.
her "attitude" came out because someone in the audience heckeled her. she has most likely been traumatized from living in the system and having her children taken from her. this is quite sad and her "attitude" is clearly a defense mechanism.
20 years ago, she would have been a kid with male predators around and no real direction in life. I'm glad that she was able to reconnect with her son ❤
Can y'all stop the male predator nonsense? Her parents failed her and she ran the streets. The only time male predator should be mentioned is in the case of a serious crime (rape, murder). Listen to her after the case, accountability, accountability, accountability.🙄
@@wezzman1 Maybe you should check the statistics of sexual abuse against children in foster care. It’s a great possibility that she was abused in many ways. I just don’t understand why there is no sympathy for the mother and all sympathy for the guy with 11 kids.
@@kandi668 you are missing the point, 80% of women file for divorce. This doesn't mean that all women cheat our leave relationship because of another man. That's far from what a simple stat tells you. You can make any statistics say what you want, this is one of the first thing that is taught in marketing. When making such a statement It would be nice if you and other use qualifiers like "some, men like this" not everyone the date someone that was in the system is a "predictor"
@@kandi668 I aged out of foster care, however, that had NOTHING to do with whether or not I would be successful in life. Some foster homes are decent, others are not. However, almost all jurisdictions provide foster children with many services and benefits that assist them in transitioning into adulthood until they reach the age of 21. Meanwhile, this case is an example of two misguided and trifling people who had unprotected sex. Mr. Grubbs and Miss Tinsley are perfect examples of what results from irresponsible behavior. Recall that he has 11 alleged children with several different women. He's just nasty, but this experience alone should compel him to test all of his alleged children. Nevertheless, there's no excuse for Miss Tinsley not knowing the identity of her son's father. I'll bet he's embarrassed and ashamed. He lived a lie and now has unanswered questions regarding his identity. Hopefully, Tinsley contacted the other alleged father(s) to resolve the paternity issue. They don't have to go to a television show. Instead, they should purchase a DNA kit from "Ancestry," "23andMe," or "My Heritage." That's how I was connected to a biological half-sibling and scores of my paternal relatives.
She was a 16 year old kid in foster care, dealing with abandonment issues & looking for love in all the wrong places. Judge should have had some compassion.
Once you start reproducing you are no longer a kid. You are a mom. Once you're that you loose the ability to play the kid card forever and harsh responsibility falls down upon you for the next 18 years.
@@TopherGrant That is what you all assume, but if he and the ladies do their part,then the government will pick up the rest and ain't noway around that fact,because everybody ain't rich..
This episode shows that people can change is they want too. This man had a rough child hood got 11 kids and admitted to his wrongs and changed his ways. These are the type of people I admire ❤
Lets not forgot that she’s a victim too! She was raised in foster care and if she was searching for love through boys then, no one should judge her. They also took her children away. It’s a sad story 😢. God bless this family.
@supercayana Violin playing *Enablers like you who preach blameless victim-hood narratives are the reason why* this nation is in the shape it is in. You are an apex example of why men need to be the leaders of all significant systems and social conventions! Chase Messiah!
Everyone has a story. No excuses. Looking for love? She didn't even know his name, and has other children. That's just sex, and so lost. She still is lost with that blue hair in her head. Smh!
I’m not that familiar with foster care but in my state if you get pregnant while a ward of the state you still get to keep your children. It’s sad that her children were take n away from her.
@TopherGrant Wrong! Judge Mathis Mother raised her 3 Boys, never took welfare and had 3 jobs. Not all Single Parents live off welfare. What an ignorant way of thinking. Smh
Time stamp....7:37....and....9:11...Please pay attention to the gentleman on the left side of the screen in the audience. His reactions were hilarious as it dealt with the defendant!! Also, wow!! All this time has passed in the child's life and the child has no idea who his father is or where he comes from on his father's side so he connect with other relatives. ⚖️
He's 19. He's lived his whole life without a dad. This guy came in last minute. It's no sweat off either of them, but hopefully, the plaintiff will continue to mentor him.
The mother is low down “ no big deal” for who ? You just sleeping around having children and u don’t care about them having a parent wow . No accountability break the cycle
That girl was 15/16 years old and in foster care. She’s not low down, she just didn’t have parents around to raise her or show her how to have respect for herself as a young lady. It’s sad that her son doesn’t doesn’t know who his father is, but it sounds like the right people are around raising him. Cycle broken.
@@kandi668I agree with you. Not only did she not have a good family to love her right, but she also very likely had NO education on women's health & pregnancy & didn't know how to answer OB questions when she found out she was pregnant. Some Drs & nurses are very bad about informing (especially young girls) about how their bodies work & how conception calculation works & they didn't care enough to try to help her find the father bc they expected the baby to go into foster care, too. It is especially sad that this is common bc there are a lot of young girls who are molested & raped by adults & those men are never held accountable bc the foster system doesn't care who the father is.
@@kandi668Excellent point, but people really do need stop bringing up their upbringing for why they make idiotic mistakes,because most people who had a bad upbringing don't turn out like her..
@@jasonallen3678 I just hope everyone has the same energy for the guy with 11 kids. Also, what about her giving birth to her son was an idiotic mistake? I’m curious to understand the thought process behind that statement.
Been awarded to the state( foster care) you receive benefits once you age out. You can go to school they would provide you with a check to help as long as you follow the rules and stay on the straights narrow. They explain this to you once you come of age. They help you with hour and school
I feel she made that statement because Judge Mathis kind of embarrassed her. She was a child in the system who wasn’t raised by a mother to tell her right from wrong. He put a spotlight on her and I felt embarrassed for her. I understand her response. At least she didn’t try to lie and put the child off on him
Plaintiff: "I grew up in a tough neighborhood where condoms weren't available." Defendant: "I had an early ambition, to start my own at home daycare with my own children, before the age of 16. And anytime I needed a pay raise, I had to go find another "doner" to pay child support on the next one." It never gets old...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I usually would have something negative to say about the mother however she was 16 years old with one child and in a foster home. No one cared about this young lady. There's no telling what she went through. Praying that she gets some help to deal with her past and wish her the best in the future. Also praying for her son. Salute to him for standing up and being a real man
Don't get an attitude coming to Court with Blue hair. Bye Felicia! Bye!!! What a stand up black man. Continue to be great! And it IS a big deal!!! The boy don't know who is Daddy is!!!
Give not thy soul unto a woman to set her foot upon thy substance.Give not thy soul unto harlots,that thou loose not thine inheritance.Ecclesiasticus 9:2,6.
Umm I had my daughter in foster care. And they don't just take your kids. And her nonchalant behavior of not knowing who her child's father is crazy. I'm just not understanding how a food server with 11 kids is looking like the better parent. I feel so sorry for this young man.
As an adult, she said, "...It isn't a big deal..." Now the 19-year son...stil...has to grow up, without any closure and not knowing who shot his mother's club up.
My grandfather had eleven kids,was a jack of all trades and pretty much helped raise most of his grandchildren too,so it isn't cool to judge a book by its cover.
@@ssinssg This case didn't happen in 2023 and besides, if you are a real go getter like this man seems like he is,with a smart money management type of woman ,then you can live comfortably in this inflated economy and plenty people are making it with a bunch of kids in 2023 actually ..
Just like her parents. She don't give a crap. She just wants to have fun. She definitely look like a good night girl if you know what I mean. But wife, marriage, real family /queen she's far from it! Anybody that makes her his, will definitely be sharing her and his money!
The most intriguing thing to me is why if a woman don’t know who the father of her child is she proceeds with the pregnancy as if she’s not ever gonna have to furnish this answer to the child one day😮and see how life is unfair the actual father is probably somewhere living his best life without even questioning her
The state removed her children from her care and instead of fighting to get them back, she packed up and hauled ass outta state? Seems like that was a gift to her, so she could live her life child(ren) free 🤔 she's so nonchalant about everything pertaining to this case. from sleeping with multiple men unprotected, not knowing the man she's sleeping with government name, having her children removed and thinking it's "no Big deal" that the plaintiff wasn't the father 🤦🏽♀️ she seems extremely lost in life
How was she going to fight the state at 16? Them kids going to homes where they would have stable parents to raise them was a relief and probably the best option.
You take classes to show the court you're trying.... parenting classes, drug court/classes, GED if she didn't already have one, getting housing. That shows you're making an effort to better yourself for your kids, so that you can get them back. You don't just run off and leave your children. If she was 16 in foster care with a child, she could have fought hard to be able to have her child(ren) with her in the home or a group home.
@@brooklynmobley5449 Let me ask this, would a home with loving stable parents seem worst than growing up with a teenage mother that stays in a group home? A lot of these comments are coming from a bubble.
@@kandi668 yes, you have a point, a good one might I add, however, IMO; there's no guarantee they went to a stable home with loving parents just like there's no guarantee the foster home would be trash. The end goal is to keep children with their parents and families together in a safe environment, correct? They should have offered her the help she needed to get her kids back and help get her life in order instead of her running off without trying. If help was offered, she didn't take it and left without her children. Yes, she could have stayed and gotten herself together so she could be healthy and stable enough to regain custody of her children. I've witnessed countless mothers and fathers of all ages, from 14+ years old, walk miles in sweltering heat, pouring rain, walking in the snow, working multiple jobs while getting their education/GED, getting back n forth without a vehicle. They made themselves uncomfortable so that they can sacrifice to get their children back. Some are saying she couldn't do anything to fight for her kids until she was 18.... she could have done any or everything I mentioned before, getting stable housing, a job, getting an education/GED, taking parenting classes, etc. All of that could have been done from the time she got those babies removed from her until she was 18. That would have given her 2 years to get herself together so the day she turned 18, she could show the court she was ready and able to be a mother. There are too many mothers who would have sacrificed anything to get her children and/or at least be close to them and gain visitation rights.
@williestubz7957 11 kids with 12 BM. Kids cost 10-20,000 a year. You think he has time to support and love 11 kids? You think he makes time for that many kids? You think he makes 100-200,000 a year? So, he doesn't provide financial support. He can't be spending quality time with each kid. He can't have a good relationship with all those women. That's my take on it. Now, tell me how he's a "solid" deadbeat?
@@TopherGrant did you even watch the case? He acknowledged where he went wrong, makes an effort to support them financially as well as take care of his legal responsibilities due to his poor choices. You want to crucify him because of his mistakes and now that he wants to do better? You must be the most perfect person in the world
@@williestubz7957 make an effort? Tell that to his kids thar miss him or never knew him. Doing the least amount possible ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. "Crucified" really? Hyperbolic statements don't prove your point. It just proves you lack of one.
Some men have baby fever just like woman do!!! He admits of taking care of all of his children. It’s nothing wrong with it. Society makes it to be a bad thing to have multiple children. SMH
Not me going back trying to see who yelled out “salty” 🤣 also she said she had no way to get in touch with him after she said they had mutual friends 😒
@TopherGrant Give me a break, judge mathis, and people i know personally have. So,,, speak what you believe in, and i will speak what i believe in. Stop being naive to the fact that people can't change
Wow, she said it's no big deal not knowing who impregnate her or the child not knowing who their daddy is. Is this thing cultural or commonplace l in some locality or amongst some demographics? How the hell can that not be a big deal?
That was just her knee jerk reaction. She knows that it's a big deal she's just embarrassed because she lied and she doesn't know who her child's father is.
I’m white as snow but I’ve lived in really bad neighborhoods rife with gang activity. I think this dude was just a thug, a hoodlum, whatever. He’s hyping himself up as a gangsta but those circles run like the mafia, blood in, blood out. I know this is a superficial comment but I couldn’t help myself. You don’t just “leave” a true gang that like deals drugs and murders people. His advice was weak as hell. There have been real ex gang bangers on this show and you have to like, sever ties and leave the whole community and create a whole new identity for yourself in order to actually get away from that lifestyle, not “avoid the negativity”. This dude was just a bum posing and impregnated a lot of ignorant women.
Ion like how she said it was impossible for it to be some one else’s child and when it turn out she was wrong she got arrogant like “Ok It’s No Big Deal” the child deserves a man like the plaintiff in his life but the mother’s attitude would probably make it difficult. Just take the lil embarrassment with grace and act like you’re sorry even if you’re not. Be lucked up.
She sounds stupid how in the world 🌎 is it not a Big deal when you out here sleeping with guys you don't even know there names unprotected sex smh she don't deserve to be a parent. Soon as your kids gotten taken by the state you left and went live your life and just left them you are a terrible human being 🤦🏿♀️. God keep continuing Blessing her kids.😎
Unsure why people felt it was a dunk on her. She was sixteen and in foster care so why do you think she was making decisions to be proud of? Seriously, grow up.
He might got a lot of kids but this dude got his head on right…..very humble
Facts bro a real one nothing but respect for him
Facts!
i have to agree, he seems to be few of the guys with all these kids that got it together
Yes I agree! He brought this petition! Good guy. Great Father!
You see all that in 11mins
It's not a big deal not to know who your child's father is? WOW
Same thing I said! I sense no desire from her to get the father involved. I was hoping that JM would ask her about the other man/men.
She’s still childish. I can’t believe she said that
@@kbrowne7Exactly 💯%!! It could be "men" that are a possibility of being the child's father!! ⚖️
She probably wasn't saying it wasn't a big deal that he isn't the father, seems like she meant that they already had a discussion that it could be someone else's so its not like she was hiding anything. Maybe
@@H.p.N19Thank you! Thats what I got from what she said.💯
She said it's no big deal. It's actually a very big deal,Smurf.
Right, out here don't know who the father of your child...smh
LMFAOOOOOO “ Smurf “ is crazy & mad funny
Not you remembering her childhood name 😭😭😭😭😭
@@LifeWitJade lol
@LifeWitJade I have a cousin her nickname is Smurf, lol. She was a lil premie baby that's how she got her nickname. She grown now & we still call her Smurf.
The mother thinks this is “not no big deal”? I wonder how does her son feel about this?
😢
This is truly sad on so many levels!! ⚖️
I'm sure her son feels completely embarrassed by both parents.
did u listen she said they had a talk already that it was between him and somebody else so HIM not being the father is no big deal
SERIOUSLY!!!
Before we start judging and coming down hard on the mother of the child can we please stop and look at the situation of the mother growing up in foster care homes in which she may have been abused and taken advantage of by ppl in and out of her life. I have sympathy for the mother as well as her children ❤️
This is a very good point. ❤
My thoughts exactly. She was young with no support or guidance. JM could’ve been a bit easier on her but it’s also equally important that she as a now adult clearly s acknowledge that the plaintiff might not be the father rather than mince words. She also needs to choose her words more carefully in asserting it’s “no big deal.” It certainly is a big deal to not be able to tell your child who their father is
@@PrettyColorsDoe that’s a great point but if she hasn’t been taught how to decipher the importance of knowing who her child’s father is, because she may not consider that’s important to her child henceforth she was abandoned by both her mother and father so she would not understand that it’s important to know who the father of her child is.
@@PrettyColorsDoeplease trust me when I say that I’m not trying to make excuses for her but I just think she deserves some grace because she was in foster care for her childhood. Judge Mathis has even acknowledge the mental, physical and emotional abuse that takes place in foster homes.
It was the comment at the end for me.
Did someone in the audience call her salty! 😂🤣
Yeah they did
He really did. They edited it out, but they started arguing lbvfs
I peeped that
It’s not a big deal???!!!! WHAT???!!!! This is her son’s life!!!!!
i cant believe she said it aint a big deal, sweety your son is 17 and never had a father, THATS A HUGE DEAL
She’s the problem & every other woman that think this idiotic narrative
A mother either, sounds like it
She's a lost soul
her "attitude" came out because someone in the audience heckeled her. she has most likely been traumatized from living in the system and having her children taken from her. this is quite sad and her "attitude" is clearly a defense mechanism.
Exactly but some are just dumb and judgmental 🙄🙄
Yea she salty n if not it shows her lack of humility. It absolutely IS a big deal my girl
WHAT A STAND UP GUY! PRAY SHE FINDS HER SON'S FATHER!
Impressive dude .. I normally don't understand my American s brothers attitude in this program but I have hope now lol. Amazing human being
hehe she's talking back to the audience ?? 😂😂😂 she can't be on paternity court then
20 years ago, she would have been a kid with male predators around and no real direction in life. I'm glad that she was able to reconnect with her son ❤
Can y'all stop the male predator nonsense? Her parents failed her and she ran the streets. The only time male predator should be mentioned is in the case of a serious crime (rape, murder).
Listen to her after the case, accountability, accountability, accountability.🙄
@@wezzman1 Maybe you should check the statistics of sexual abuse against children in foster care. It’s a great possibility that she was abused in many ways. I just don’t understand why there is no sympathy for the mother and all sympathy for the guy with 11 kids.
@@wezzman1 can you not use your brain to see that a young girl alone is vulnerable to men using her sexually?
@@kandi668 you are missing the point, 80% of women file for divorce. This doesn't mean that all women cheat our leave relationship because of another man. That's far from what a simple stat tells you. You can make any statistics say what you want, this is one of the first thing that is taught in marketing.
When making such a statement It would be nice if you and other use qualifiers like "some, men like this" not everyone the date someone that was in the system is a "predictor"
@@kandi668 I aged out of foster care, however, that had NOTHING to do with whether or not I would be successful in life. Some foster homes are decent, others are not. However, almost all jurisdictions provide foster children with many services and benefits that assist them in transitioning into adulthood until they reach the age of 21. Meanwhile, this case is an example of two misguided and trifling people who had unprotected sex. Mr. Grubbs and Miss Tinsley are perfect examples of what results from irresponsible behavior. Recall that he has 11 alleged children with several different women. He's just nasty, but this experience alone should compel him to test all of his alleged children.
Nevertheless, there's no excuse for Miss Tinsley not knowing the identity of her son's father. I'll bet he's embarrassed and ashamed. He lived a lie and now has unanswered questions regarding his identity. Hopefully, Tinsley contacted the other alleged father(s) to resolve the paternity issue. They don't have to go to a television show. Instead, they should purchase a DNA kit from "Ancestry," "23andMe," or "My Heritage." That's how I was connected to a biological half-sibling and scores of my paternal relatives.
As soon as the results came out her whole personality changed and she went from being nice to snappy as hell lol
Cause she knew she was letting mfs hit raw so she got defensive
It didn’t help that the heffa in the back said “salty”
Have a great week everyone
Same to you!
Too late
Its always the doctors fault for giving the wrong due date. 😂 😂 no accountability no where.
I mean changing the due date would change the conception date. Meaning it could be a different guy
She was a 16 year old kid in foster care, dealing with abandonment issues & looking for love in all the wrong places. Judge should have had some compassion.
Once you start reproducing you are no longer a kid. You are a mom. Once you're that you loose the ability to play the kid card forever and harsh responsibility falls down upon you for the next 18 years.
I find it interesting that he asked about his life. But only asked her about their relationship
No
@@yung1717Mathis doesn't like black women.
A fertile father … lol I knew he was a serial baby daddy by the hairline.
Just like these serial breeder women having 12 kids with 14 BDs. Why are poor women so damn horny all the time?
😮 😂😂😂but he got that bread tho and can take care all of those kids,so don't minimize his righteousness..
@@jasonallen3678 he absolutely CANNOT support 11 kids.
He's pathetic.
@@TopherGrant That is what you all assume, but if he and the ladies do their part,then the government will pick up the rest and ain't noway around that fact,because everybody ain't rich..
9:10 My man in the crowd realizing why they call her Smurf 😂😂😂
This episode shows that people can change is they want too. This man had a rough child hood got 11 kids and admitted to his wrongs and changed his ways. These are the type of people I admire ❤
Thanks
Salute to this man..
Lets not forgot that she’s a victim too! She was raised in foster care and if she was searching for love through boys then, no one should judge her. They also took her children away. It’s a sad story 😢. God bless this family.
@supercayana Violin playing *Enablers like you who preach blameless victim-hood narratives are the reason why* this nation is in the shape it is in. You are an apex example of why men need to be the leaders of all significant systems and social conventions! Chase Messiah!
I agree with you. I do feel sorry for her and I hope life works out very well for her in the end. I really do.
Everyone has a story. No excuses. Looking for love? She didn't even know his name, and has other children. That's just sex, and so lost. She still is lost with that blue hair in her head. Smh!
True. She was ready to open her legs to any smooth-talking guy , which is sad.
Looking for daddy in all the wrong places.
How she behaved then is excusable. How she behaves now is not.
I’m not that familiar with foster care but in my state if you get pregnant while a ward of the state you still get to keep your children. It’s sad that her children were take n away from her.
I'm in Louisiana it's like that here. If you're a ward of the state and gets pregnant they take your baby.
In Tennessee the child goes into custody if you’re in foster care bc technically the State is your “parent”.
In Georgia, the state can separate the young ward from her child. Im confused why she kept having more kids while being in the state's custody.
With her mindset, is that a bad thing?
She was unfit to take care of them. Let's be real here.
Wow a lot of children! Hopefully the mothers have income to support 🙏 the children. Appears to be a good dad
As is traditional in the poverty stricken areas, welfare is the life-plan.
Poverty stricken areas because those lazy parents don’t pay any taxes so the neighborhood can’t pay for grocery stores and malls.
@@TopherGrant not necessarily with everyone that it's a life plan. For some it's a stepping stone. Education is the key 🔑.
@TopherGrant Wrong! Judge Mathis Mother raised her 3 Boys, never took welfare and had 3 jobs. Not all Single Parents live off welfare. What an ignorant way of thinking. Smh
@@marilynmiller97301 out of a million isn't worth mentioning
That color in her hair tells me everything I need to know😂😂😂
That she was a child in the foster care system who grew up to be an adult with issues?
Judge Mathis threw that quick shade towards the Mom and hit that gavel at the same time!!😅
No big deal? It’s a MAJOR DEAL my love. It’s okay you were embarrassed. Find that child’s father.
The Mother said, "It's not no big deal." Since when did Moms stop caring about the "feelings" of their children? Lady, it's a HUGE deal!!! SMH.
Time stamp....7:37....and....9:11...Please pay attention to the gentleman on the left side of the screen in the audience. His reactions were hilarious as it dealt with the defendant!! Also, wow!! All this time has passed in the child's life and the child has no idea who his father is or where he comes from on his father's side so he connect with other relatives. ⚖️
It was the “ah ha” moment for me at 9:11 😂😂😂😂
Ahahahaha
Is that Casper?
At 9:11 it looks like he remembers her from back in the day too lol
@@JT-si4smit was because of her hair color 😂
It’s not a big deal?!??!!!!! Her poor children don’t stand a chance.🥺
He's 19. He's lived his whole life without a dad. This guy came in last minute. It's no sweat off either of them, but hopefully, the plaintiff will continue to mentor him.
The mother is low down “ no big deal” for who ? You just sleeping around having children and u don’t care about them having a parent wow . No accountability break the cycle
That girl was 15/16 years old and in foster care. She’s not low down, she just didn’t have parents around to raise her or show her how to have respect for herself as a young lady. It’s sad that her son doesn’t doesn’t know who his father is, but it sounds like the right people are around raising him. Cycle broken.
@@kandi668I agree with you.
Not only did she not have a good family to love her right, but she also very likely had NO education on women's health & pregnancy & didn't know how to answer OB questions when she found out she was pregnant. Some Drs & nurses are very bad about informing (especially young girls) about how their bodies work & how conception calculation works & they didn't care enough to try to help her find the father bc they expected the baby to go into foster care, too.
It is especially sad that this is common bc there are a lot of young girls who are molested & raped by adults & those men are never held accountable bc the foster system doesn't care who the father is.
@@kandi668Excellent point, but people really do need stop bringing up their upbringing for why they make idiotic mistakes,because most people who had a bad upbringing don't turn out like her..
@@jasonallen3678 I just hope everyone has the same energy for the guy with 11 kids. Also, what about her giving birth to her son was an idiotic mistake? I’m curious to understand the thought process behind that statement.
@@jasonallen3678Actually most people with a bad upbringing do make those kinds of poor decisions.
I wish he had shown her the same grace he showed the man
Judge gotta chill with taking over nearly the entire episode with HIS life story 🫣🙃
I been said that which is why I stopped watching years ago. I just decided to see if things changed and they haven't.
😭 “OH NO NO SALTY SWEETIE “ she very much salty 😭💯
No this is how Peoria men are. I know a man that had 11 babies before 30
Not her getting an attitude at the end,cause she slept around an don't know who her child's father is..lol!!
He's right about getting others who's not compatible and on the same page away from you.
No Accountability At ALL !!!
Been awarded to the state( foster care) you receive benefits once you age out. You can go to school they would provide you with a check to help as long as you follow the rules and stay on the straights narrow. They explain this to you once you come of age. They help you with hour and school
Why that man in the audience act like he knew her when the plaintiff mentioned her nickname… 😂😂😂
I feel she made that statement because Judge Mathis kind of embarrassed her. She was a child in the system who wasn’t raised by a mother to tell her right from wrong. He put a spotlight on her and I felt embarrassed for her. I understand her response. At least she didn’t try to lie and put the child off on him
She was hot and ready 😂
Plaintiff: "I grew up in a tough neighborhood where condoms weren't available."
Defendant: "I had an early ambition, to start my own at home daycare with my own children, before the age of 16. And anytime I needed a pay raise, I had to go find another "doner" to pay child support on the next one."
It never gets old...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Fact😂😂😂
I usually would have something negative to say about the mother however she was 16 years old with one child and in a foster home. No one cared about this young lady. There's no telling what she went through. Praying that she gets some help to deal with her past and wish her the best in the future. Also praying for her son. Salute to him for standing up and being a real man
Did she just say it's not a " Big Deal " to know who the father of her child is ? Girl bye
i couldn’t imagine messing around with someone for 6 months and not know they real name
Not knowing your baby daddy is ALWAY a big deal!!!!
Don't get an attitude coming to Court with Blue hair. Bye Felicia! Bye!!! What a stand up black man. Continue to be great! And it IS a big deal!!! The boy don't know who is Daddy is!!!
Give not thy soul unto a woman to set her foot upon thy substance.Give not thy soul unto harlots,that thou loose not thine inheritance.Ecclesiasticus 9:2,6.
Off subject of this case. But I’m proud of dude seriously. 🎉❤
Umm I had my daughter in foster care. And they don't just take your kids. And her nonchalant behavior of not knowing who her child's father is crazy. I'm just not understanding how a food server with 11 kids is looking like the better parent. I feel so sorry for this young man.
11 kids?! He's out here recklessly reproducing just like she is😂 these people have no accountability or responsibility in their lives, ridiculous
And truly embarrassing.
When her name was said , Og behind her looked as if he was familiar with her as well
The moral lesson we all who are Israelite men can learn from this case is that any woman that ain't worth us marrying ain't worth us impregnating.
9:11 that "Smurf" realization 😂😂😂
As an adult, she said, "...It isn't a big deal..."
Now the 19-year son...stil...has to grow up, without any closure and not knowing who shot his mother's club up.
My grandfather had eleven kids,was a jack of all trades and pretty much helped raise most of his grandchildren too,so it isn't cool to judge a book by its cover.
No way you're properly supporting 11 children in 2023..... You'd need to be a multimillionaire.
@@ssinssg💯 agreed.
The difference is this man was not available to his children
@@ssinssgExactly 💯%!! ⚖️
@@ssinssg This case didn't happen in 2023 and besides, if you are a real go getter like this man seems like he is,with a smart money management type of woman ,then you can live comfortably in this inflated economy and plenty people are making it with a bunch of kids in 2023 actually ..
Just like her parents. She don't give a crap. She just wants to have fun. She definitely look like a good night girl if you know what I mean. But wife, marriage, real family /queen she's far from it! Anybody that makes her his, will definitely be sharing her and his money!
When he said I'm glad you gone to be there for him everybody thought he was the father look at her face
Nastiness lying she knows she gave them kids away.
I applaud the Guy for wanting to be there for her son eventhou he is not his son! That’s show he’s a good person regardless of your past.
He has 11 kids he's just talking bc how does he spend time with his, own 11 kids plus provide adequate finances?
His past is 11 kids so pls
Me too!
The most intriguing thing to me is why if a woman don’t know who the father of her child is she proceeds with the pregnancy as if she’s not ever gonna have to furnish this answer to the child one day😮and see how life is unfair the actual father is probably somewhere living his best life without even questioning her
Keyword in this case is "Woman" she was 16 years old. She had no guidance living in Foster Care
@@fredamiller79 I agree with your statement but I'm sure you know a lotta women that are grown and still make the same decision
The balls on these chicks !the reactions afterwards when they find out the kid isn't the dudes #no big deal?
The state removed her children from her care and instead of fighting to get them back, she packed up and hauled ass outta state? Seems like that was a gift to her, so she could live her life child(ren) free 🤔 she's so nonchalant about everything pertaining to this case. from sleeping with multiple men unprotected, not knowing the man she's sleeping with government name, having her children removed and thinking it's "no Big deal" that the plaintiff wasn't the father 🤦🏽♀️ she seems extremely lost in life
She couldn’t fight to get them back. After 18 she could’ve
How was she going to fight the state at 16? Them kids going to homes where they would have stable parents to raise them was a relief and probably the best option.
You take classes to show the court you're trying.... parenting classes, drug court/classes, GED if she didn't already have one, getting housing. That shows you're making an effort to better yourself for your kids, so that you can get them back. You don't just run off and leave your children. If she was 16 in foster care with a child, she could have fought hard to be able to have her child(ren) with her in the home or a group home.
@@brooklynmobley5449 Let me ask this, would a home with loving stable parents seem worst than growing up with a teenage mother that stays in a group home? A lot of these comments are coming from a bubble.
@@kandi668 yes, you have a point, a good one might I add, however, IMO; there's no guarantee they went to a stable home with loving parents just like there's no guarantee the foster home would be trash. The end goal is to keep children with their parents and families together in a safe environment, correct? They should have offered her the help she needed to get her kids back and help get her life in order instead of her running off without trying. If help was offered, she didn't take it and left without her children. Yes, she could have stayed and gotten herself together so she could be healthy and stable enough to regain custody of her children. I've witnessed countless mothers and fathers of all ages, from 14+ years old, walk miles in sweltering heat, pouring rain, walking in the snow, working multiple jobs while getting their education/GED, getting back n forth without a vehicle. They made themselves uncomfortable so that they can sacrifice to get their children back.
Some are saying she couldn't do anything to fight for her kids until she was 18.... she could have done any or everything I mentioned before, getting stable housing, a job, getting an education/GED, taking parenting classes, etc. All of that could have been done from the time she got those babies removed from her until she was 18. That would have given her 2 years to get herself together so the day she turned 18, she could show the court she was ready and able to be a mother. There are too many mothers who would have sacrificed anything to get her children and/or at least be close to them and gain visitation rights.
Nothing funny about making kids!!
This guy is solid
Solid POS
@@TopherGrant how so? Let see what genius response we get here
@williestubz7957 11 kids with 12 BM. Kids cost 10-20,000 a year. You think he has time to support and love 11 kids? You think he makes time for that many kids? You think he makes 100-200,000 a year? So, he doesn't provide financial support. He can't be spending quality time with each kid. He can't have a good relationship with all those women.
That's my take on it. Now, tell me how he's a "solid" deadbeat?
@@TopherGrant did you even watch the case? He acknowledged where he went wrong, makes an effort to support them financially as well as take care of his legal responsibilities due to his poor choices. You want to crucify him because of his mistakes and now that he wants to do better? You must be the most perfect person in the world
@@williestubz7957 make an effort? Tell that to his kids thar miss him or never knew him. Doing the least amount possible ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. "Crucified" really? Hyperbolic statements don't prove your point. It just proves you lack of one.
not her getting mad at the crowd definitely saltyy 🤣
Sad 19teen years old she doesn't know who his father is
She was young and made mistakes. From seeing the show, it seems they're both doing better.❤
Lol @ they gave me the wrong dates. These women HATE accountability
Him and her look like brother and sister!!!
He's a stand-up guy 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Some men have baby fever just like woman do!!! He admits of taking care of all of his children. It’s nothing wrong with it. Society makes it to be a bad thing to have multiple children. SMH
It's no big deal but you're son doesn't know nor have a relationship with his father!!!
Damn🤦🏿♀️🙎🏿♀️
The plaintiff is ridiculous! I see nothing amusing about breeding children like puppies…
Uh ohhh ..the infamous “gave me the wrong due date “ bs... lol she practiced that story in the mirror for a while lol and smh
OMG was that DJ Casper behind the defendant!? RIP 😔
Blessings
Having your father in your life is a big deal for Women it's a big impact on the men we choose to date
It is definitely a big deal that your child does not know his father…Get over your own embarrassment. You did it, so own it & find your son’s father
Not me going back trying to see who yelled out “salty” 🤣 also she said she had no way to get in touch with him after she said they had mutual friends 😒
She seems more excited talking about him than her child.
What does she mean it’s no big deal? The young man still doesn’t know who his father is‼️🤦🏽♀️
This guy has really turned his life around
Yeah, I always put my best foot forward and say all kinds of awesome things about myself when in front of a Judge.
@@TopherGrant people can change. Stop being negative
@@leannbuggs888 nah, people.dont change. Don't be so gullible.
@TopherGrant Give me a break, judge mathis, and people i know personally have. So,,, speak what you believe in, and i will speak what i believe in. Stop being naive to the fact that people can't change
@@leannbuggs888 I know a couple that have. But many more that haven't.
DJ casper was all involved in the case 😊 He was very talented.
AFTER HE LEFT, I found out i was pregnancy 😂😂😂
I like this Man very humble and responsible. I speak Blessings over his life and family in Jesus Name
She is so slow.
Wow, she said it's no big deal not knowing who impregnate her or the child not knowing who their daddy is. Is this thing cultural or commonplace l in some locality or amongst some demographics? How the hell can that not be a big deal?
Why did JM want her to say there’s no other possibility? Seems like she was saying maybe but he kinda browbeat her
That was just her knee jerk reaction. She knows that it's a big deal she's just embarrassed because she lied and she doesn't know who her child's father is.
I'm sorry but they look like brother and sister
Such a stand up guy.
I’m white as snow but I’ve lived in really bad neighborhoods rife with gang activity. I think this dude was just a thug, a hoodlum, whatever. He’s hyping himself up as a gangsta but those circles run like the mafia, blood in, blood out. I know this is a superficial comment but I couldn’t help myself. You don’t just “leave” a true gang that like deals drugs and murders people. His advice was weak as hell. There have been real ex gang bangers on this show and you have to like, sever ties and leave the whole community and create a whole new identity for yourself in order to actually get away from that lifestyle, not “avoid the negativity”. This dude was just a bum posing and impregnated a lot of ignorant women.
People having unprotected sex with people they don't even know each other's name😳🥺🥺😳🥺😳😱😱😱😱😱😱
He had 5 sons 6 daughters and 7 STDs allegedly.
Ion like how she said it was impossible for it to be some one else’s child and when it turn out she was wrong she got arrogant like “Ok It’s No Big Deal” the child deserves a man like the plaintiff in his life but the mother’s attitude would probably make it difficult. Just take the lil embarrassment with grace and act like you’re sorry even if you’re not. Be lucked up.
&& the fact they didnt know each other real name was wild . .iii pray she find her son real father . .❤❤❤❤❤
Is that Dr Dre in the audience?
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She sounds stupid how in the world 🌎 is it not a Big deal when you out here sleeping with guys you don't even know there names unprotected sex smh she don't deserve to be a parent. Soon as your kids gotten taken by the state you left and went live your life and just left them you are a terrible human being 🤦🏿♀️. God keep continuing Blessing her kids.😎
Unsure why people felt it was a dunk on her. She was sixteen and in foster care so why do you think she was making decisions to be proud of? Seriously, grow up.