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  • @FunzieOne
    @FunzieOne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +713

    as a british columbian, we are constantly embarrassed by vancouver. bunch of clowns

    • @ECARTMANN
      @ECARTMANN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Dont be - you have a great hockey team.

    • @Dilbert-o5k
      @Dilbert-o5k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Bread and circuses , eh

    • @sheilaolfieway1885
      @sheilaolfieway1885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      and americans by Grandpa Biden...

    • @NorthernContrarian
      @NorthernContrarian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      State name should be changed to little china. Based on politics and demographics.

    • @sheilaolfieway1885
      @sheilaolfieway1885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@NorthernContrarian Like the people's republic of California?

  • @WebberAerialImaging
    @WebberAerialImaging 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Haha, what a surprise! My company's Ford lightning just had to have the battery replaced at 14k miles. How awesome to have a vehicle that is out of commission for 2 weeks that just over a year old!

    • @smileychess
      @smileychess 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did they say why? That’s not a common thing at such a low mileage.

    • @WebberAerialImaging
      @WebberAerialImaging 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@smileychess failed control and a couple bad cells

    • @smileychess
      @smileychess 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WebberAerialImaging - Weird and unusual, but thankfully it was under warranty. I can’t imagine wanting such a massive EV anyway. Why buy a pickup truck that can’t haul/tow for much distance? I guess around town it could work fine, but just seems like a bad use of company funds.

    • @WebberAerialImaging
      @WebberAerialImaging 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@smileychess it was a demo that we got for a good price and we just use it to run around locally.
      To your point, it's kinda worthless as a truck.

    • @smileychess
      @smileychess 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@WebberAerialImaging - To be fair, at a good price, they can be a ton of fun. They have plenty of towing capacity, but it's just the range that suffers like crazy.

  • @offshoretinker
    @offshoretinker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +745

    Trudeau has two roles in the EV circus - ringmaster and clown.

    • @RobBeales
      @RobBeales 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Flatterer 😊

    • @hoboonwheels9289
      @hoboonwheels9289 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trudeau is a puppet not a master, as are all the clowns, UN is the master in most countries, since 1992.

    • @keegan773
      @keegan773 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      🤡 so he’s got the EV where the doors fall off in the ring.

    • @hlafrond965
      @hlafrond965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Leave off our Prime Minister. He does the work of three men.
      Curly, Larry and Moe.

    • @paulmyers7078
      @paulmyers7078 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@hlafrond965 You forgot to mention Shemp!

  • @adriantidd3755
    @adriantidd3755 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    From a small town in upstate NY, the local school just received 2 EV school buses at $490k each with an expected range of 80 miles. We need to go back to one room school houses and bring back the Nuns as teachers and return their paddles

    • @Core-vu6mc
      @Core-vu6mc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I've got to imagine on a cold day that range won't be enough. I know I lived in a couple of places growing up where there were very long rural bus routes. I'm sure the range estimate doesn't consider a load of kids and the heat running at full blast.

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      From a small town in southeastern CT, reading that has me scratching my head in disbelief!
      I can't help but wonder what that 80-mile range would be, once you factor in New England's hills - and our winters. With a busload of children. And some routes being down rural streets. It seems impractical; every time you start from a stop, a significant amount of current is needed, and I'm not sure there'd be enough regenerative braking happening to provide much assistance to the battery pack.
      At least, with a diesel bus, a half tank of gas, and two heater cores, if you get stuck somewhere, or if the vehicle suffers mechanical problems that don't disable the engine (flat tire, transmission failure, etc), you can keep the bus somewhat-warm. Electric bus? Might have to pray for a "battery event" to keep the kids warm while waiting for assistance, as electric heat takes additional power.

    • @bohunt8113
      @bohunt8113 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      80 miles? That barely covers the route for some small schools in Upstate NY, especially during winter when running a heater reduces the range.

    • @terrybaremor6361
      @terrybaremor6361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would imagine that the EV’s would be used for the within 5 mile radius and parents would have to drive their kids outside of this range.

    • @smileychess
      @smileychess 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@terrybaremor6361- Or just use other buses for longer routes.

  • @paul756uk2
    @paul756uk2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    The biggest problem we're up against is that people in government, both federal and local have absolutely no real life experience of anything, let alone anything technical or practical. These are the very people who can't find employment in the real world. They're the ones making bad decisions everyone else ends up paying for

    • @davepfizer
      @davepfizer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isn't that the truth and it is world wide too. They all sign up for the woke, brain dead, stupid, LGBTQ and moronic stuff on the first day but have to meet the dim criteria before they get to sign. Then with the green agenda they are frightened of dead polar bears and all the rest.

    • @derekbevan7145
      @derekbevan7145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most cannot find their own arse hole to wipe it either

    • @RobBeales
      @RobBeales 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      The problem with modern governments with university educated politicians THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE INTELLIGENT 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @VHKDK
      @VHKDK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Oh yes they do Paul. They are experienced at cheating, lying and stealing.

    • @garreysellars5525
      @garreysellars5525 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Absolutely nailed it
      3000 percent 😅

  • @canucklehead4463
    @canucklehead4463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    finally, getting the disrespect we deserve! i can't tell you just how delighted i am!

  • @squiggymcsquig6170
    @squiggymcsquig6170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A diesel truck can sit on scene and function nonstop for days, being periodically fueled from 5 gallon cans. Having done this several times over my career, I'd love to know how the elec -trick version will pull this off.

    • @ronprice3112
      @ronprice3112 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe a very long extension cord to charge 😂

    • @solarissv777
      @solarissv777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know it has an onboard diesel generator?

    • @squiggymcsquig6170
      @squiggymcsquig6170 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@solarissv777 Yes, many (but not all) fire apparatus do have generators, and I have been curious as to whether or not a typical one would be capable of running a pump adequately for fireground operations (especially industrial or multi-story structures requiring multiple, longer lines and higher discharge pressures) while also providing for lights, communications, etc; keeping in mind that space on these vehicles is always at a premium, and the physical size of a truck-mounted generator has limitations. Could one feed multiple lines, be able to push enough water up an aerial ladder, provide water to a deluge gun all at the same time? I have been on scenes listening to my Detroit Diesels whine while the gauges on my pump panel tell me the hydrant has no more water to give and the pump is still not giving the hoses what they really should have. Never a good feeling when you start drawing a vacuum on the inlet gauge and have to cut back on discharge pressure to keep from collapsing the line from your hydrant while still getting enough water out of nozzles. Fire suppression takes a lot of energy, and that will never change as long as there are fires.
      Also, fully electric fire apparatus would not have the luxury of being able to wait any significant amount of time to be recharged if its batteries are flat after use, and I can only assume that batteries large enough for a fire engine would take significantly longer to charge than your average car. Getting a truck "back in service" as soon as possible after use is vital.
      Anyway, these are my thoughts, and I try to keep my mind open; but I have very serious doubts as to the real-world effectiveness/efficiency/safety of electric fire trucks.

    • @solarissv777
      @solarissv777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@squiggymcsquig6170 I has a built in generator based on a bmw diesel engine, it kicks in if batteries have less then 20% charge remaining. Moreover, AFAIK in case if electronics failure it can drive the pump directly (through the clutch), and the valves for different intakes/discharges can be also operated manually. This thing is in fact a series hybrid, and not a true electric vehicle, but politicians for some reason do not want to admit it.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good morning. Always great videos and thank you. I did not even know they made a EV fire/emergency vehicles. I call that deadly.

  • @Evilroco
    @Evilroco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    The UK government are trying to force an all EV Ambulance service , what could possibly go wrong with that idea ?!

    • @naphackDT
      @naphackDT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ambulance is not nearly as bad as firetruck. Since you are gonna have to clean out the vehicle after most trips anyway, you can just charge it while you are doing that. Also, it's mostly driving and while the vehicle does have quite some weight to it, it's not that heavy.
      If you really wanted to do it, you could, it's just that there isn't much reason as it would be way more economical to stick to diesel.
      Now, firetrucks, on the other hand, are a complete nonstarter. You have to haul around way more mass, like at least a cubic meter of water, for starters, and once you are on site, you have to power all the pumps with your batteries, which will quickly run out if it's a longer operation. Also, the additional mass of the batteries might push your vehicle against certain mass limits, making it impossible to cross certain bridges. Vehicles are usually optimized to meet certain thresholds and since they can't really reduce the equipment carried by the vehicle, they are definitely gonna have a heavier vehicle.

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Sir, we're gonna need you to plug your pacemaker into the charging port..." 🤣

    • @victormontes7007
      @victormontes7007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They are going to have IEDs with random timers remember hover board batteries and EV vehicle fires

    • @jeffolley2712
      @jeffolley2712 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dashcamandy2242 Or maybe oops just plugged the patient into charge station by mistake do not know why his pacemaker stopped 🤔🤔

    • @John-kr7iz
      @John-kr7iz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably the same thing as Scotland when they spent millions on EV police cars and forgot to order the chargers to go with them, they soon figured out that running a extension cord out the window wasn't going to cut it

  • @davidanderson769
    @davidanderson769 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be fair, Rosenbauer probably make the world's best fire appliances. Their electric appliances, which have now been manufactured for a few years and are used in many European countries as well as the USA and now Canberra, are very reliable. The problems have been mainly with the pumping and water systems, not the electric motors or components. It is wrong to call out problems where they do not exist.

  • @khunopie9159
    @khunopie9159 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Honestly, Canada makes Australians look smart by comparison. And that is an incredibly low standard.

    • @gazzafloss
      @gazzafloss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂 true....

    • @HaigEngineering
      @HaigEngineering 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Steady on you guys, at least half of us are smart, the other half vote Labor.😜😜

    • @TheZodiacz
      @TheZodiacz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HaigEngineering and the really thick ones think there is any difference

    • @HaigEngineering
      @HaigEngineering 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TheZodiacz You are almost right, but come on, be serious, the idiots we have in charge at the moment are even making most of our usual party faithful Labor voter friends change to another party in the next election, and I don't necessarily mean LNP either. I'm not a lover of any them. I am sorry if I upset you.

    • @masterchiefburgess
      @masterchiefburgess 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Particularly when you consider our country is even BIGGER, and our winter weather is much COLDER!

  • @energyflowswhereattentiongoes
    @energyflowswhereattentiongoes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your content rocks bro! keep going

  • @abpsd73
    @abpsd73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right up there with Edmonton purchasing a bunch of EV transit buses, half of the 60 that were delivered are down for repairs, and the bus manufacture has gone bankrupt.

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Water and high voltage electricity, I remember having seen somewhere that this combination is not a good one.

    • @davidwilhelm7466
      @davidwilhelm7466 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't forget it's DC (direct current), which is even deadlier with water.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidwilhelm7466 Why would DC be more deadly than AC? Edison said it was the other way around (and he was wrong also).

    • @mikedavison3400
      @mikedavison3400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tedmoss Tesla (Nikola and not the car) was right and Edison was flat out wrong.

    • @johnbednarcik9359
      @johnbednarcik9359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol yeah you could have a real shocking experience.

    • @pfyearwood1
      @pfyearwood1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not the electricity, it's the LI Ion battery that will burn when wet or overheated.

  • @superstarcat7654
    @superstarcat7654 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So it can go 100 km to a fire. Can it still pump water from the leaky tank to put the fire? Or from a pond or hydrant after it gets there? So who is going to tow it home?
    Will it be able to raise or lower its ladder without power when it runs out? Or will the guy get stuck holding an empty hose on a fully extended ladder surrounded by flames?
    There better be some manual controls and gears for safety for the firefighters.

  • @kenrogers1282
    @kenrogers1282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you could probably run ALL firetrucks in Canada for a year, with the amount of fuel trudeau goes through on his numerous annual holidays!

  • @YouShouldThink4Yourself
    @YouShouldThink4Yourself 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    "It can go 100 miles on a single charge" BUT How long can it PUMP WATER?

    • @teolynx3805
      @teolynx3805 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think there are hand pumps available otherwise it's useless 😂

    • @waltercoslovi6404
      @waltercoslovi6404 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well it will get to the fire and fire up its diesel generator to run the pump and maybe charge the battery while doing it.

    • @robertmoffett3486
      @robertmoffett3486 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      100k, not miles. 60 miles. They claim. Has ANY EV producer or seller not exaggerated their true range? So it's less. If not, it will be soon. They'd better carry buckets on it

    • @suecharnock9369
      @suecharnock9369 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not 100 miles, a100km! Less than 100 miles!

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      100 with empty tanks, nonladder/equipment, and 1 driver, not a full crew....

  • @kensakamoto258
    @kensakamoto258 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a veteran firefighter I can say I have never heard of water tank issues on a new fire engine. The ev cannot sustain extended pump times like a diesel. I heard it does 2 hrs max. Maybe the companion truck will be a Hugh diesel generator that follows the event around .

  • @1hjehje
    @1hjehje 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recently I read an article here in Alberta, Canada concerning electric transit buses. Several years ago when I was living in Edmonton , the city was piloting some BYD electric transit buses. They were satisfied with their shorter route performance, so they purchased several more. Since then, which I am quite sure that there was a lot of political pressure from the US government, it was decided to purchase a much larger number of US made electric buses. These buses turned out to be nothing but junk and within a very short period of time more than half of the busses have broken down and are out of service with availability of replacement parts being a big concern. The city recently filed an $82 M claim against the manufacturer, Proterra, which is going bankrupt and facing a list of nearly 1300 claims against them. It is hard to fathom the level of incompetence.

  • @Tom-dt4ic
    @Tom-dt4ic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Many's the time that I've been on the highway and seen dozens of fire trucks loping off the miles as they traveled the immense distances to their next fire. No wait, this has never happened in the history of the world. 100km range seems like more than enough for an EV emergency vehicle. And an EV fire truck seems like an excellent idea, especially for the firemen who have to live in the firehouse overtop a smelly and unhealthful diesel truck!

  • @davefgs2399
    @davefgs2399 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    In my city the local police is using the renault zoe ev version as a patroling car (like you are gonna be able to chase someone in that thing), problem is after 10 months some started to have problems, every single one of them costed as much as 3 of the prevoius cars they had and every broken one had a battery replacement service for 10k+ each.
    Those things can't even put the siren at full volume cause it depleates the battery too quickly, we live in a joke right now.
    Oh yeah, they also went for ev busses and they decided to reduce the number of loops around the city cause they can't make more then a few before they have to charge them, so instead of finding a decent solution (cause it would have meant to buy way more busses then normal), they reduced the number of runs.
    GG govs, that's why people love you

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You really should'a bought a Tesla.

    • @kathyyoung1774
      @kathyyoung1774 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quit voting for leftist politicians who do this nonsense.

    • @Ron-d2s
      @Ron-d2s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      On the upside the Edsel is no longer the biggest joke in automotive history.

    • @kathyyoung1774
      @kathyyoung1774 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ron-d2s TRUE! TRUE! TRUE!

  • @ThatsMrAwesomesauce
    @ThatsMrAwesomesauce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LAFD's RTX went out of service for the same issue soon after entering frontline service. It was out of service for quite awhile. LAFD still retains the previous Pierce apparatus in the station just in case. If the truck is so unreliable that a second engine must be maintained for readyness I am not sure it is worth it!

  • @michaeln2768
    @michaeln2768 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for these videos.

  • @Pengochan
    @Pengochan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That fire truck has an "energy backup system": A 3.0 Liter 300HP 6 Cylinder BMW Clean Diesel Engine.
    While that is comforting to know, it also means that truck isn't just hauling around these heavy batteries but a backup diesel engine too. As for the 100 km reach, I wonder if that was calculated with some actual firefighting included, or if after those 100 km you'd need the "energy backup system" to power the pumps.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the range and on scene work it sufficient for pretty much all ordinary shifts. As it was tested at some of the busiest stations in Germany the range extender kicked in less than once per month, to be precise 9 times in 13 months

  • @gromiko1350
    @gromiko1350 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An acquaintance who is a firefighter in Canada, told me that they have a diesel generator to charge the truck, in case the intervention lasts more than an hour or two or if it is cold, yes it is the case in Canada, it's silly right.?.

  • @danbailey8182
    @danbailey8182 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not to mention a leaking water tank and Lithium batteries are a great combination.

  • @SkotiM
    @SkotiM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Fire engines used to drive out to a fire and be used to put them out.
    Now we have become so much more efficient that the fire truck can be the source of the fire and it can do it at the fire station so the fire fighters dont have to even travel anywhere to attend the fire.

    • @laurieparker-stuart868
      @laurieparker-stuart868 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Very good point!

    • @chasleask8533
      @chasleask8533 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Now that's progress .

    • @vilemerchant
      @vilemerchant 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      love it LMAO

    • @markusgorelli5278
      @markusgorelli5278 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A different take on work-from-home. lol.

  • @Eyes0penNoFear
    @Eyes0penNoFear 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently saw a comment comparing EVs to cheap appliances. It's sometimes cheaper to just buy a new one when it breaks

  • @dalepete2854
    @dalepete2854 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How long can the batteries last while fighting fire big difference from just running down the road

  • @christophermontoya6178
    @christophermontoya6178 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Car rentals companies have discovered the same thing including extremely low resale prices , Just ask Hurt’s.

  • @HertaHansDorninger
    @HertaHansDorninger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To my knowledge, this engine has a 100 kW Diesel generator as range externer.
    What puzzles me is the long term reliability of the huge amount of electronics in such an engine.

  • @dfor50
    @dfor50 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    "It can go 100kms on a single charge!" but then needs 6 hours to charge itself somewhere in order to get back to the station. One it gets back to the station it will need another 6 hours to get ready for another call out.

    • @abpsd73
      @abpsd73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That 100km quoted range is probably for "normal" driving too, no consideration that in an emergency it will be driven balls out, no regenerative braking as the air brakes slam at every stop sign or red light, and back onto hard acceleration.

  • @johnharbaugh9471
    @johnharbaugh9471 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The longest I have been on multi company commercial fire was over 14 hours, not only was food provided to the firefighters, Diesel tanks were refilled as well. A routine residential fire usually last 2-5 hours. How do you charge an EV, in the middle of an incident. Just asking?

  • @pkdude5334
    @pkdude5334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    911, what is your emergency?
    my house is on fire.
    okay sir, you'll have to be patient, our firetruck is currently charging

  • @practicalguy973
    @practicalguy973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in Canada, I got a bonus for being an extremely hard worker for my company. The federal gov took 44% of it in tax because bonuses somehow grant them more. They take so much tax they can just be irresponsible with how they spent. That fire truck is a great example.

  • @enderwiggen3638
    @enderwiggen3638 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad they are saving all those diesel fumes from the truck even though it’s letting all the smoke from the fires it can’t respond to into the atmosphere.

  • @clivefrear1784
    @clivefrear1784 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suppose it may be handy being able to douse itself with water should thermal runaway occur, while it waits specialised fire-fighting equipment to arrive!

  • @bruceferguson6637
    @bruceferguson6637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    San Diego recently put into service an electric tugboat. I wonder how that’s going.

  • @gold5th
    @gold5th 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Edmonton, AB, Canada bout like 60 or 80 Electric city busses, within like 2 or 3 years only 16 of them still work, the rest are down waiting on parts or something and the company that made them, went bankrupt...

  • @edfrawley4356
    @edfrawley4356 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While the failure had nothing to do with the truck being electric it does seem that the manufacturer has quality control issues which could foretell future failures. I am more interested in whether the truck will need to be towed back to the station after pumping water for several hours or even be able to complete that task when its batteries run flat. You can add fuel to a diesel truck pretty much anywhere but how are you going to charge up a truck while in service at the scene of a fire?

  • @raysydneyaustralia
    @raysydneyaustralia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    You watching this Chris Bowen?

    • @grahamejohn6847
      @grahamejohn6847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't be silly there's nothing between his ears to retain the memory

    • @aeroearth
      @aeroearth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope.
      As the No. 1 Saleperson for the Chinese solar cells,, wind turbines and giant self immolating lithium batteries, he's on the phone to China............

  • @jamesmcnaughton6884
    @jamesmcnaughton6884 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can only imagine the irony of such a fire hazard as an ev parked inside the firehall......also , quite often home fire insurance can be affected by proximity to a fire hall....perhaps being close to one with an ev fire hazard will negate any benefit of lower rates

  • @mattc.310
    @mattc.310 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The price is a bit ridiculous, but it was a common issue with these trucks. There are no issues with the electronics or drive train yet. Once they get it back in service, we'll have a better idea how it will survive the rigors of a front line apparatus. I don't see it having an response area of its own without a backup engine to cover for it if it fails.

  • @GPRaitsakas
    @GPRaitsakas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The city of Thunder Bay Ont. decided to buy 2 Ford F150 lightnings for its maintenance fleet at a cost of 113000 dollars each . I believe that a standard HD F 250 would be cheaper.

  • @rogerlishman2532
    @rogerlishman2532 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The electric bit is just for fun. The real deal is the BMW, 300 bhp, six cylinder diesel unit providing auxiliary power. Read primary for auxiliary.

  • @thomasw5466
    @thomasw5466 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh you have no idea how delighted we are!

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Imagine it catches on fire and they can not put it out or God forbid they dye in their sleeps.

    • @robotnoir5299
      @robotnoir5299 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know it's trivial, but I think you mean "die". "Dye" is how you change your hair color.

    • @patrickbuick5459
      @patrickbuick5459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robotnoir5299Green from envy to red with anger?

    • @JB-yb4wn
      @JB-yb4wn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well that's why it's called a fire engine.

  • @306champion
    @306champion 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question; If its an EV, what drives the pump?
    It would want to be a quick fire to extinguish because of the time limit of the battery or does it come with a diesel generator?

  • @ffjsb
    @ffjsb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Water tank leaks are NOT a common event with new, or even older trucks, unless they were damaged by extremely rough driving. Fry was wrong about the price difference, it's closer to a MILLION dollars cheaper for a comparable diesel powered fire engine.

  • @AlDidit-w9k
    @AlDidit-w9k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The uk government just decided to switch to electric ambulances.

    • @davepfizer
      @davepfizer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sitting in the car park in the ambulance on a cold day for 4 hours before they let you in the hospital A&E. Heater on perhaps? Lunacy is a requirement of the NHS procurement process but its undiagnosed of course as the nutters are now running the asylum.

    • @evil17
      @evil17 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This will be MGUY’s next topic on stupidity.

  • @nathanlord1749
    @nathanlord1749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was a failed water tank. Something that diesel trucks have been getting for years on end.
    So, it's not really an electric truck issue.
    Anyone here bothered to look at these trucks and note that they do come with a diesel generator to charge the truck while it's under pumping operations?

  • @hakontvedt1405
    @hakontvedt1405 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about gas buses and other such? Here in Bergen Norway it seems to work fine for city driving.

  • @snort455
    @snort455 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My fire chief changed our diesel supplier to biodiesel. Within a few months all our diesel motors had fungus in the fuel systems. Trucks, generators, the works. You dont f-*& around with proven reliability when it comes to emergency equipment. His little experiment in virtue signaling cost a bundle and took vital equipment off line.

    • @jim4448
      @jim4448 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bio diesel is a good idea. If the vehicle is running down the road most of the time.. Such as long haul vehicles. If the vehicle is going to set around. for long period of time.. It will cause all kinds of problems. Like. such as fire trucks... You will have all kind of fuel problems. On some trucks if it grows fungus in the wrong place... It could cost you $2000 dollars to get it out.. And sometimes possibly even more..

  • @GAD00SH
    @GAD00SH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It doesnt even get too cold in vancouver... imagine what would happen in any other colder region of canada 😅

  • @John-bt1cu
    @John-bt1cu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair, the problem was with the tank and not the drivetrain, but the range is still way to small. Now what happens when you drive out 40km and run the pumps for half an hour, do you have to tow it back to the station or hook it up to a diesel generator?

  • @stephenjones5304
    @stephenjones5304 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The New Orleans area EV schoolbus driver got worried when the bus began to "lose power."

  • @louishannett356
    @louishannett356 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I noticed that several comments mentioned how charging is left after arriving at the scene of the fire. With a driving range of 100km it seems that is sufficient charge for open travel of 1hour. Most fires will be near the fire station requiring a short distance to travel. The main question is the type of fire and how long will it be to put the fire out. If the fire is too intense requiring a long time to be put out then you will run a risk of discharging the battery. The men holding the fire hoses can be in danger when the supply of water is shut off. I remember being at fires for hours at a time. You are better off to stay with diesels engines.

    • @aeroearth
      @aeroearth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm a volunteer Firey. Sometimes we have to drive 500 klms to get to a bush fire.
      And I am NOT getting in a fire truck with an effing great battery just to please some lunatic communists...........

  • @KenDawson-q1q
    @KenDawson-q1q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm Canadian and I'm so discouraged and disillusioned by our out of control woke prime Minister. Electric emergency vehicles is the most ridiculous, impractical, craziness only an environmental nut job could believe is a good idea.
    Fire trucks can be on a scene for several hours, even days. Diesels can be easily refueled on-site in minutes.
    I hope and pray my municipality is smart enough not to by one of those white elephants.
    Sad thing is Canada is becoming a cesspool of socialism, wokeness, and environmental crazines.
    I love your posts, we need your voice of reason and reality.
    Keep up the great work

  • @Gary_Hun
    @Gary_Hun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The silence of a firetruck's engine is prime. No one's gonna notice how they just stealth their way through the city to a fire.

  • @dylaninnes8541
    @dylaninnes8541 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The city has an area of 115.18 km2 (44.47 sq mi), including both flat and hilly ground
    Hills would eat up battery especially with a load of water

  • @billryland6199
    @billryland6199 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What powers the water pumps? It takes a LOT of horsepower to pump water at high pressure.

  • @misiopuchatek152
    @misiopuchatek152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We can now freely paraphrase the old one „who watches the watchers?” with „which fire truck put fire down on fire truck?!”. Not in this case but we all know it is just a matter of time…

  • @jodywhitehead9173
    @jodywhitehead9173 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They don't need batteries for the pumps. They carry electrical extension cords to plug into the neighbors exterior outlets.

  • @EdStyer
    @EdStyer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As Bill Engvall says, "And here's your sign!"

  • @BB010864
    @BB010864 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Check this out.. You should do a report on this : Felicity Ace Cargo Ship Fire blamed on Porsche EV. Half billion worth of damage !

  • @scotto3826
    @scotto3826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A failure of the water tank has nothing to do with the fact that the truck is electric. Back in the early 1900s, firemen balked at the idea of doing away with horse-drawn fire apparatus for new, modern engine powered trucks. The complaints were that they had to be fueled, they might break down. Hmmm, sound familiar?

  • @davidbabcock5172
    @davidbabcock5172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok a leaking water tank could happen with anything having tanks but I’ve never heard of any problems with regular trucks. Sounds like the manufacturer has quality control issues.

  • @BasedF-15Pilot
    @BasedF-15Pilot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hahahaha. Imagine making a truck and not covering the drivetrain or power accessories from Day 1. Then imagine finding a government STUPID enough to buy it! Good job Rosenbauer.

  • @jeffdodd4957
    @jeffdodd4957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Los Angeles was less than a week with the same issue I believe

  • @FreedomTalkMedia
    @FreedomTalkMedia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, a leaky water tank could happen to an ICE truck. This doesn't sound like an issue with it being EV.
    That said, I can't imagine showing up to a forest fire with a giant battery just waiting for a spark to hit it. Imagine one of those fire trucks catching on fire. Now that would be a story.

  • @whiggy6976
    @whiggy6976 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    forget the range, how long will the pumps run?

  • @jasonrussell5613
    @jasonrussell5613 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My son’s fire truck takes 2 “C” batteries! Back up and running in Three minutes of down time! No tears!

  • @markmeridian3360
    @markmeridian3360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A leaky water tank in a diesel fire truck wouldn't be much of a problem, but in an electric fire truck it's a potential catastrophe. Imagine the battery going up in flames from the corrosion caused by the leak and then not being able to put the fire out as it spreads to nearby structures and vehicles.

  • @What..a..shambles
    @What..a..shambles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Messing around with emergency vehicles would be like giving experimental jibs to medical staff 😷

  • @russellderonda1489
    @russellderonda1489 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a EV fan but attacking this truck because of a water leak problem is ridiculous, however the cost and lack of range are fair game. The real question is why doesn't the manufacturer test the tank before they install it on the truck? I also wonder how running the pumps, which I assume are electric, will affect the range of the truck not allowing it to get back to the firehouse after fighting a large fire.

  • @bradmitchell4936
    @bradmitchell4936 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a born CANADIAN citizen I am embarrassed by the idiocy of our country on the world stage

  • @markh.6687
    @markh.6687 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So why do the tanks leak straight out of the factory??
    How the fire service/departments/brigades are gonna put water on the fire ("the blue stuff on the hot stuff" as one saying goes) when the batteries run down at the fire/rescue scene, so the water pump can't pump is a question I'd love someone to explain.

  • @HikaruKatayamma
    @HikaruKatayamma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As the owner of a Tesla, I agree with this 100%.
    However, a leaky water tank had NOTHING to do with it being electric.
    NOTE: A small diesel generator can power/charge an electric vehicle while using far less fuel than a full sized engine.

  • @kiwa7544
    @kiwa7544 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Missing the elephant...... How long does it take to fix a leaking water tank, months? Sounds a bit suspect......

    • @gxyperiagxyperia7244
      @gxyperiagxyperia7244 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you ever heard of a diesel truck affected by such a failure ? me not 🤣

  • @paulschroeder2639
    @paulschroeder2639 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The EV Fire Truck also has a Diesel engine to keep the Fire Truck operating at a fire call ! Smaller Fire Truck costs much more money that can not do the job, brilliant.

  • @ronbladon2614
    @ronbladon2614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thought Vancouver was in North America too!

  • @danortega3662
    @danortega3662 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder when we will hear about an E-fire truck that has to be towed back to the station after battling a huge fire and draining its batteries while running the pump for a long time! I’ll bet that is not accounted for in the range!

  • @Btobebone
    @Btobebone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it will be the responsibility of the owner of the property that is burning down to grab a garden hose and protect at least one outlet so when the fire truck gets there, it can be plugged in

  • @Mark-s7d6l
    @Mark-s7d6l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what happens if the battery on an electric fire truck spontaneously catches fire while in the fire station? Do you park the fire truck 50 feet away from anything for safety?

  • @BrentRyley
    @BrentRyley 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lotsa big brains here!

  • @Ecosse57
    @Ecosse57 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    puting out a rhetorical fire concerning the pr dumpster fire that is the ev fire truck seems about right for the age we live in.

  • @finbarrsullivan8158
    @finbarrsullivan8158 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many ev firetrucks does it take to put out an Ev truck fire???

  • @wickertwm
    @wickertwm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Australians should also take note as their country is in almost as much of a mess as Canada, and the UK

  • @pyrolight7568
    @pyrolight7568 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "According to the Rosenbauer website, the truck's electric range is about 100 kilometres on a fully charged battery. However, because the truck must be dependable in emergencies, it is equipped with a backup diesel engine that automatically kicks in when the battery gets low. In non-emergency situations, the battery is charged electrically at the station. "
    Then it is not really electric is it? Good lord.

  • @nickigilbert7295
    @nickigilbert7295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm on my daughter's TH-cam.
    Fire Station answering phone: Fire Station. How may I help you?
    Panic Caller: My house is on fire! I need you to come put it out!
    Fire Station: How do we get there?
    Panic Caller: Don't you still have them big red trucks? 😊

  • @eifionhowells
    @eifionhowells 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope the Vancouver fire department keep a diesel firetruck on hand for when the milk float firetruck decides to have a catastrophic meltdown. Rediculous. UK NHS is actively pursuing getting milk float ambulances!!!

  • @EnjoyFirefighting
    @EnjoyFirefighting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    incredibly stupid idea - that's your opinion
    1) Electric vehicles are used in pretty much any business already (private cars, vans, trucks, buses, ships ...), and emergency services are amongst the last approaching that tech. However quite many are testing it already, gaining experience and even start seeing the advanteges.
    2) "length of time I need to charge" ... also the diesel powered ones are plugged in at the station anway. They're plugged in to charge all the different batteries, heating etc. We have to hit the gas station once to twice a day (working at a busy rural EMS station), but it would completly work if we had electric vehicles (and I'm not really a fan of it yet!). Also some of the largest and busiest fire departments have tested electric engines, ambulances and other vehicles already.
    The RT is completly charged within 40 minutes, but even can keep on working when low on battery ... even at the busiest departments that barely happens, look up the stats from Berlin!
    3) "short range" ... in rural areas you have relatively long runs, but less calls, while you have more calls but short runs in the city. You don't have to be able to cover a distance across the entire state
    4) "supposed benefits" ... of course they're expensive. It's also expensive to upfit a diesel powered fire truck to be able to work in smoke filled tunnels, to supply air for the diesel engine to keep running. Austria has an entire apparatus classification of tunnel fire apparatus
    5) "no difference to the climate" although just a tiny little bit of a fraction, it makes a difference if I burn lots of diesel and have to hit the gas station once to twice a day, or only one in a YEAR (speaking for the electric Rescue Engine with diesel range extender which was tested at some of the busiest stations of the Berlin FD. Also there are many other things, like noise reduction during the emergency run or on scene operations. Trying to communiate with dispatch I always go to the back of the vehicle due to the diesel up front making it difficult to hear and understand them on the mobile radio
    6) at 1:16 leaky water tank ... do you really think the leak of the water tank has ANYTHING to do with the fire truck being electric powered? It happens with tanks on diesel powered fire trucks as well, but of course that's not really interesting to cover in such videos against electric vehicles, right?

  • @chrisellioitt5240
    @chrisellioitt5240 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Canada in dec.
    Who want to bet one night with low water tank they parked it outside to charge and it froze and broke the plumbing?
    Empty with open valves or full tank for use in Canada winter or it freezes and expands braking plumbing.

  • @bhgdetjbngfd
    @bhgdetjbngfd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what powers the water pump?

  • @stewart5989
    @stewart5989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Must be a quiet day on the EV front , when all simon can talk about is an evaluation EV firetruck. The fire department has nothing but praise for this vehicle and the has a water leak it has , has nothing to do with the issue of it being electric.
    So thought I would help him out.
    The second and third biggest car makers in Japan , Honda and Nissan, have just signed a joint venue to develop all electric vehicles. This is a clear statement , that they see EVs as the future.
    Simon, would you like to comment. 😂

  • @hellfirehellfyre6591
    @hellfirehellfyre6591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100km on a single charge, my low fuel warning light comes on when I only have a 100km of range left.

  • @leonardshand7845
    @leonardshand7845 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "..but Fry (unfortunate name) said there are huge environmental benefits to an electric truck, as diesel fumes are a know carcinogen" as there is a huge fire spewing all sorts of sh1t into the air. These people are clueless.

  • @ryananderson5202
    @ryananderson5202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toronto and Vancouver are dragging us down.

  • @mnj640
    @mnj640 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We're heading the same way as Canada. The Labor party might be in for a rude shock in the next election

  • @58fins
    @58fins 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll bet the manufacturer has already spent most of the check! (Or isn't it Cheque, in Canada,eh?) Isn't water bad for electrical devices? I wonder if that thing would go into thermal runaway if the water gets into the battery pack? Imagine the thing catching on fire, and a conventional fire truck having to try and extinguish the fire!