Here I repeat what I have said on several occasions: there are hundreds of concertos like this that are never played and have been left completely out of the great pianists repertoires: why is that? I am personally quite fed-up with the usual concertos for piano and orchestra which are always the same. They are very good, I know, but repertoires should be more widened and other composers should be also considered , since they are quite unknown to audiences all over the world, It is a shame.
I appreciate your frustration. I've carried this question with me for many years. Sadly Ms. Hellemans is correct. Artists don't want to spend time learning what they can't get paid to perform. Concert seasons won't program a piece from an unknown composer they can't sell or promote (without extensive public education which few symphony orchestras truly have or properly invest in). Remember, although they are written by Mozart, we rarely hear early piano concertos by him performed live within a symphony orchestras concert season. Yes it's unfortunate, but this makes education (history) all the more valuable; the internet more colorful for the curious; and universities (and conservatories) all the more crucial for reseach and presentaion - to hear and explore these neglected works. (Wow. That was an awkward sentence. Forgive me.) Thanks to this fine collection of artists and the wonderful soloist for investing in this for us. More please :-)
Classical FM stations in the 70's and 80's were stuck on playing Beethoven, Bach, Vivaldi, and Mozart to satisfy advertisers. All this other great music was ignored, even though it was recorded. But nobody bought the recordings because they were not broadcast, and did not know they existed. But now we have utube, and I BUY most of these hidden classics.
Das war eine große Zeit für das Musikschaffen, es entstanden damals so eine Menge herrlicher Werke und es gab soviel Musikgenies. Was für eine traurige Kultur haben wir zurzeit !
I bought this LP recording back in the 1970s. One among many I purchased unheard, and it became one of my favorites among my purchases from that era, which was dubbed “The Romantic Revival.“
Судячи по відгукам, цю музику слухають виключно іноземці. На великий жаль, ми ніколи нічого не чули від цих невідомих авторів. Але твори чудові. Велика вам подяка за можливість слухати цю красу!
Carl Stamitz is the son of Johann Stamitz, the creator of the Mannheim school and the Mannheim orchestra, which they use as a laboratory to test new modes of expresssion. The classical forms were consolidated by Haydn and the Mannheim school among others. Here, we have a concerto for piano which shows that a firm classical structure had been set up for the concerto. The breadth of the first movement demonstrates it. The expressison shows all what the young Mozart got from the Mannheim school.
Not to forget the man who gave the money: Karl Theodor, Elector from the Palatinate, was the one who encouraged and employed all these top class musicians in his palace in M annheim. He made this development happen within a few years by investing his money in art and music instead of soldiers and war.
Né 11 ans avant Mozart ! Ce dernier s'est sûrement inspiré ici ou là de son aîné ...Très beau concerto , d'une grande délicatesse . Un grand merci à Mirinae , qui a mis cette magnifique oeuvre en ligne !
L'un des meilleurs compositeurs contemporains du siècle des Lumières ... Je suis consterné de ne découvrir sa musique qu'à l'hiver de mes années ! Nous avons ici un concerto pour piano qui montre qu’une structure classique solide avait été mise en place pour le concerto. L'étendue du premier mouvement en témoigne. L'expression montre tout ce que le jeune Mozart avait obtenu de l'école de Mannheim.
This concerto and the No. 4 in G minor by Paisiello are among the things that make me say that the Classical music of the 18th century has no rival! Thank you for uploading these beautiful works of art!
Extraordinary. Excellently written and excellently performed. A.Mozart - to a certain extent he possessed Carl Stamitz's ability to bring out Stamitz's best qualities in works for solo instruments.
Acuta osservazione! W. A. Mozart, come tutti i compositori di area germanica, ha ampiamente scopiazzato anche dall'incommensurabile scuola musicale Partenopea. Manna, Jommelli, Paisiello... solo per citarne solo alcuni.
This is very pretty and well-constructed; and in fairness to Stamitz, he never aspired to its being anything more. But there's a crucial difference between writing perfectly competent and appealing work within an idiom and writing something that is inspired within the same limits; too few people seem able to identify this difference. Most, even very musical people with many years' listening to the 'classical' repertoire informing their judgement, would be able to say that this certainly wasn't by Mozart. Yes, Mozart might have written much of what is here, but there are things within this concerto which, even allowing for 'early' Mozart's less accomplished aspects, prevent any truly perceptive and knowledgable listener from mistaking this for Mozart. Most of the presenters on Radio 3 would think this was Mozart; but then, a few of them wouldn't know it from Brahms.
Christopher Rose An interesting and perhaps long overdue comment that should be read more widely. TH-cam is full of comments from listeners who write ‘...as good as’, or ‘...better than Mozart’ (or Haydn), when referring to music of this period; only rarely do any of these lesser composers get anywhere near these two composers whose stature is as it is for very good reasons. Sometimes, as in the case of CPE Bach most obviously, comparisons are made that are simply inappropriate. There is a wealth of lovely music from this period, but - apart from Haydn in a number of areas - almost nothing comparable to Mozart’s best piano concertos, operas, chamber music, last five symphonies and so on; as you correctly say, it’s not difficult to differentiate Mozart from his contemporaries, nor Haydn too though the differences are often not the same. Similarly with Haydn, even by the early 1770’s works such as the quartets Opus 20, the A flat or c minor piano sonatas (Hob. XVI:46 and 20), and a string of the ‘sturm und drang’ symphonies (26, 44, 45, and 49 for example), were, in the words of Charles Rosen, in his standard text on the music of the period ‘The Classical Style’ (1971): ‘...on a level that no other composer of Haydn’s time could equal or even approach’. That is before we even begin to list some of the later works. Your comment is a useful corrective; even when there are ‘influences’, particularly in the case of Mozart, the works he produced go far beyond the models (JC Bach, Michael Haydn, the Mannheim school, etc etc), that they are often misunderstood or overstated. The only exception, perhaps not surprisingly is Haydn, where the impact of his Opus 33 quartets as just one example, had a far more profound effect on Mozart than simply ‘influence’, producing in the six ‘Haydn’ quartets, perhaps the most considered music he ever composed. I do think there is a place for the music of these contemporaries of Mozart and Haydn; some of the symphonies are not only very attractive, but very fine works: Boccherini’s c minor Symphony is just one example. The symphonies and other music of Carl Stamitz is unfailingly attractive, but ultimately insubstantial compared even to the Boccherini work I have cited; this piano concerto is quintessential Carl Stamitz in every respect. In chamber music, I feel the lesser composers are generally, more exposed and struggle even more in comparison. We should hear more opera of the period, Cimarosa, Paisiello, Soler, Salieri and others all wrote works which would - and do - hold the stage today and are well worth hearing. All this alternative music to Mozart and Haydn has the additional advantage of increasing our awareness and understanding of why these two figures dominate the period, much as Beethoven (and Schubert), were to do in the next generation. History has created a musical hierarchy; whilst we may debate the particular merits of individual composers, overall, it is not far wrong.
The problem with your opinion is its refutation: what you say simply DOES NOT HAPPEN in any other fiel of art. Therefore, what you say is untrue and depends on other factors.
A Beautiful tender and delicate work , more "Mozart", than Mozart himself in parts. Funny how it is that Mozart often gets the credit for the "pure classical sound" when he himself arrived on the scene during a the period of time within the classical era when its "sound" had already been well defined and developed by very many others. Not a criticism of Wolfgang, but just an observation. Musicology, history and criticism bearing much of the responsibility for this very slanted and biased "Mozartian view" of the classical period, which usually neglects and often totally excludes the great contributions of many other wonderful composers. Many people often make comments such as "this sounds like Mozart", when in fact its Mozart's music itself that sounds like many of the great and earlier classical pieces written by a large number of other composers . Mozart himself being the grand imitator of the classical era, possessing the faculty of being able to write in the style of virtually any other composer whilst retaining his own unique style and sound: a thing well recognized by music critics and historians. Yet this is after all a great talent in itself...and part of his great genius.
Indeed. This is way beyond pretty much everything Mozart (or his dad, in his name) wrote. I've always found WAM to be massively overrated and lacking in any real substance. In harmony and development, this is undeniably superior to Mozart.
For me this is pure Carl Stamitz. Mozart sounds to me like Mozart. One thing is the classical language, other is the voice of each one composer who composed in the classical era. Listen to the Piano Concerto WoO4 by Beethoven and perhaps you'll find some likeness in the slow movement. Para mim isto é puro Carl Stamitz. Mozart soa-me a Mozart. Não devemos confundir o idioma clássico com a voz de cada compositor que escreveu durante o período do classicismo. Já agora oiçamos o Concerto para Piano WoO4, composto por Beethoven na juventude, e talvez encontremos algumas semelhanças no andamento lento.
***** Quelqu'un qui prend en cours ce concerto pourrait faire cette réflexion "Tiens un concerto inconnu de Mozart". Vraiment très proche pour le non-esthète que je suis. Un pro verrait sûrement la différence !
The glockenspiel effects in the finale echo Papageno's "Ein Mädchen oder Weibchen". Stamitz' piano seems to have had a wider upper range than Mozart's, or perhaps this concerto was written towards 1800?
ok I guess. compared to mozart's concertos K 4449ff the work fails to meet that standard of greatness, but the few do. I've always been fond of stamitz's viola concerto, though it is also superficial if graceful. there are many classical composers worth hearing. stamitz is surely one of them.
Cela ressemble plus aux concertos pour pianos de haydn que ceux de Mozart. Le style...la galanterie...comment comparer par exemple les concertos 19...20..24 de Mozart avec ces tres beaux concertos de haydn..stamitz ...jean chrétien bach?...ça a la couleur...la saveur..mais ce n' est et ne sera jamais du mozart. L' esprit est different et le modernisme aulleurs
Oui, plus de ressemblance avec Haydn ! Les concertos de Mozart sont plus riches en couleurs , plus étoffés dans l'orchestration ; simple avis de mélomane ... Ceci étant, cette oeuvre de Stamitz , d'une grande délicatesse, a indéniablement beaucoup de charme .
Here I repeat what I have said on several occasions: there are hundreds of concertos like this that are never played and have been left completely out of the great pianists repertoires: why is that? I am personally quite fed-up with the usual concertos for piano and orchestra which are always the same. They are very good, I know, but repertoires should be more widened and other composers should be also considered , since they are quite unknown to audiences all over the world, It is a shame.
Why? Money, money, money, for most artists, concertorganisations and recordlabels.
I appreciate your frustration. I've carried this question with me for many years. Sadly Ms. Hellemans is correct. Artists don't want to spend time learning what they can't get paid to perform. Concert seasons won't program a piece from an unknown composer they can't sell or promote (without extensive public education which few symphony orchestras truly have or properly invest in). Remember, although they are written by Mozart, we rarely hear early piano concertos by him performed live within a symphony orchestras concert season. Yes it's unfortunate, but this makes education (history) all the more valuable; the internet more colorful for the curious; and universities (and conservatories) all the more crucial for reseach and presentaion - to hear and explore these neglected works. (Wow. That was an awkward sentence. Forgive me.)
Thanks to this fine collection of artists and the wonderful soloist for investing in this for us. More please :-)
Discrimination against Bohemians in the old days. This is one major reason.
Be happy that youtube exist
Classical FM stations in the 70's and 80's were stuck on playing Beethoven, Bach, Vivaldi, and Mozart to satisfy advertisers. All this other great music was ignored, even though it was recorded. But nobody bought the recordings because they were not broadcast, and did not know they existed. But now we have utube, and I BUY most of these hidden classics.
Das war eine große Zeit für das Musikschaffen, es entstanden damals so eine Menge herrlicher Werke und es gab soviel Musikgenies. Was für eine traurige Kultur haben wir zurzeit !
a little bit of stamitz in my ears, a little bit of mozart throughout the years
a little bit baroque in this time, just brighten up my days of life
La pure Beauté en effet qui illumine nos vies.
Piacevole e delicato. Rasserenante
I bought this LP recording back in the 1970s. One among many I purchased unheard, and it became one of my favorites among my purchases from that era, which was dubbed “The Romantic Revival.“
This is a great gift to piano music lovers
Судячи по відгукам, цю музику слухають виключно іноземці. На великий жаль, ми ніколи нічого не чули від цих невідомих авторів. Але твори чудові. Велика вам подяка за можливість слухати цю красу!
From Lecce South Italy...I am a Baritono Dilettant ❤😊
Еще одно открытие для меня прекрасной музыки и композитора.Наслаждение для моей души.Спасибо каналу и Ютубу.
It makes my grey days bright!
Ah, Stamitz! What would life be without his clarinet and piano concertos?
Dont forget his VIola Concerto 🤭also very famous
Wonderful music, thanks a lot for loading it. The Bohemian school has produced great composers, they deserve to be better known.
Delightful!
Carl Stamitz is the son of Johann Stamitz, the creator of the Mannheim school and the Mannheim orchestra, which they use as a laboratory to test new modes of expresssion. The classical forms were consolidated by Haydn and the Mannheim school among others. Here, we have a concerto for piano which shows that a firm classical structure had been set up for the concerto. The breadth of the first movement demonstrates it. The expressison shows all what the young Mozart got from the Mannheim school.
Not to forget the man who gave the money: Karl Theodor, Elector from the Palatinate, was the one who encouraged and employed all these top class musicians in his palace in M annheim. He made this development happen within a few years by investing his money in art and music instead of soldiers and war.
Magnifique 🎶 Beauté, grâce, élégance, délicatesse, quelle richesse dans la musique de cette époque ! 🎶❤️🎶
Angel Music. Undoubtedly the Insiration of a Divine Being !!! Tepper Michael.
Né 11 ans avant Mozart ! Ce dernier s'est sûrement inspiré ici ou là de son aîné ...Très beau concerto , d'une grande délicatesse . Un grand merci à Mirinae , qui a mis cette magnifique oeuvre en ligne !
Great composer like the rest. Indeed he sounds like Mozart in scale playing, very beautiful on a sunny day i might say.
L'un des meilleurs compositeurs contemporains du siècle des Lumières ... Je suis consterné de ne découvrir sa musique qu'à l'hiver de mes années ! Nous avons ici un concerto pour piano qui montre qu’une structure classique solide avait été mise en place pour le concerto. L'étendue du premier mouvement en témoigne. L'expression montre tout ce que le jeune Mozart avait obtenu de l'école de Mannheim.
beautiful ...makes life a charming place to be
Yes, that's what it does; makes life a charming place(and as an antidote to much that is charmless)
This concerto and the No. 4 in G minor by Paisiello are among the things that make me say that the Classical music of the 18th century has no rival! Thank you for uploading these beautiful works of art!
Ангельская Музыка. Несомненно Инспирация Божественного Существа !!! Теппер Михаил.
Amabilissimo concerto che non conoscevo. Anche il compositore si ascolta poco, in giro.
Grazie di averlo caricato!
It's really annoying to hear a commercial play in the middle of music.
Anyway, thank you for posting such a beautiful music.
Découverte de ce compositeur. Très belle musique. Un trésor pour les pianistes.
I love it!!! Can't stop listening to it!!! Cordoba, Argentina!!! Even better than some Mozart compositions in my opinion.
La cuna de la mejor cellista del mundo y del buen fernet! Saludos!
Neither can I... Awesome!!!!!
Mozart did not like Stamitz
This is where Mozart got his piano concertos writing style from.
And J.C. Bach, even more so.
Extraordinary. Excellently written and excellently performed. A.Mozart - to a certain extent he possessed Carl Stamitz's ability to bring out Stamitz's best qualities in works for solo instruments.
미리내면 은하수지요. 빛나는 곡들 가득한 명곡 맛집이군요. 처음듣는곡이라 잠시 들렀다갑니다 좋은곡 고맙습니다
Really food for the soul!
You are right !
Ascoltando questo bel ed ispirato concerto capisco dove Mozart ha tratto quei suoni meravigliosi che troviamo in tutta la sua opera. Matteo Vasta
Acuta osservazione! W. A. Mozart, come tutti i compositori di area germanica, ha ampiamente scopiazzato anche dall'incommensurabile scuola musicale Partenopea. Manna, Jommelli, Paisiello... solo per citarne solo alcuni.
Me ha gustado mucho. Un concierto muy clasisismo.
An especially graceful concerto, thanks to some gorgeous string writing.
Wonderful ! Thank you so much :)
Tres elegant j'adore
yes
This is very pretty and well-constructed; and in fairness to Stamitz, he never aspired to its being anything more. But there's a crucial difference between writing perfectly competent and appealing work within an idiom and writing something that is inspired within the same limits; too few people seem able to identify this difference. Most, even very musical people with many years' listening to the 'classical' repertoire informing their judgement, would be able to say that this certainly wasn't by Mozart. Yes, Mozart might have written much of what is here, but there are things within this concerto which, even allowing for 'early' Mozart's less accomplished aspects, prevent any truly perceptive and knowledgable listener from mistaking this for Mozart. Most of the presenters on Radio 3 would think this was Mozart; but then, a few of them wouldn't know it from Brahms.
Oh do tell!
Christopher Rose
An interesting and perhaps long overdue comment that should be read more widely.
TH-cam is full of comments from listeners who write ‘...as good as’, or ‘...better than Mozart’ (or Haydn), when referring to music of this period; only rarely do any of these lesser composers get anywhere near these two composers whose stature is as it is for very good reasons.
Sometimes, as in the case of CPE Bach most obviously, comparisons are made that are simply inappropriate.
There is a wealth of lovely music from this period, but - apart from Haydn in a number of areas - almost nothing comparable to Mozart’s best piano concertos, operas, chamber music, last five symphonies and so on; as you correctly say, it’s not difficult to differentiate Mozart from his contemporaries, nor Haydn too though the differences are often not the same.
Similarly with Haydn, even by the early 1770’s works such as the quartets Opus 20, the A flat or c minor piano sonatas (Hob. XVI:46 and 20), and a string of the ‘sturm und drang’ symphonies (26, 44, 45, and 49 for example), were, in the words of Charles Rosen, in his standard text on the music of the period ‘The Classical Style’ (1971): ‘...on a level that no other composer of Haydn’s time could equal or even approach’. That is before we even begin to list some of the later works.
Your comment is a useful corrective; even when there are ‘influences’, particularly in the case of Mozart, the works he produced go far beyond the models (JC Bach, Michael Haydn, the Mannheim school, etc etc), that they are often misunderstood or overstated.
The only exception, perhaps not surprisingly is Haydn, where the impact of his Opus 33 quartets as just one example, had a far more profound effect on Mozart than simply ‘influence’, producing in the six ‘Haydn’ quartets, perhaps the most considered music he ever composed.
I do think there is a place for the music of these contemporaries of Mozart and Haydn; some of the symphonies are not only very attractive, but very fine works: Boccherini’s c minor Symphony is just one example.
The symphonies and other music of Carl Stamitz is unfailingly attractive, but ultimately insubstantial compared even to the Boccherini work I have cited; this piano concerto is quintessential Carl Stamitz in every respect.
In chamber music, I feel the lesser composers are generally, more exposed and struggle even more in comparison.
We should hear more opera of the period, Cimarosa, Paisiello, Soler, Salieri and others all wrote works which would - and do - hold the stage today and are well worth hearing.
All this alternative music to Mozart and Haydn has the additional advantage of increasing our awareness and understanding of why these two figures dominate the period, much as Beethoven (and Schubert), were to do in the next generation.
History has created a musical hierarchy; whilst we may debate the particular merits of individual composers, overall, it is not far wrong.
The problem with your opinion is its refutation: what you say simply DOES NOT HAPPEN in any other fiel of art. Therefore, what you say is untrue and depends on other factors.
Wooow que concierto mas bello, me atrapó desde el inicio
Thank you for uploading this lovely performance
This composition belongs with the greats.
De la crème fouettée, légère, élégante et subtile sa musique
beautiful
A Beautiful tender and delicate work , more "Mozart", than Mozart himself in parts. Funny how it is that Mozart often gets the credit for the "pure classical sound" when he himself arrived on the scene during a the period of time within the classical era when its "sound" had already been well defined and developed by very many others. Not a criticism of Wolfgang, but just an observation. Musicology, history and criticism bearing much of the responsibility for this very slanted and biased "Mozartian view" of the classical period, which usually neglects and often totally excludes the great contributions of many other wonderful composers. Many people often make comments such as "this sounds like Mozart", when in fact its Mozart's music itself that sounds like many of the great and earlier classical pieces written by a large number of other composers . Mozart himself being the grand imitator of the classical era, possessing the faculty of being able to write in the style of virtually any other composer whilst retaining his own unique style and sound: a thing well recognized by music critics and historians. Yet this is after all a great talent in itself...and part of his great genius.
Frauncis Agree completely. Vanhal, Giovann Battista Cirri, Stepanovych, Eybler, Franz Krommer, Sperger....
as entertaining as it is, it doesn't come close to mozart, though that doesn't deny Mozart inherited the classical form....
Very "Mozart" indeed!
Indeed. This is way beyond pretty much everything Mozart (or his dad, in his name) wrote. I've always found WAM to be massively overrated and lacking in any real substance. In harmony and development, this is undeniably superior to Mozart.
Must I? Oh, ok then...
Wonderful surprise. Thank you.
For me this is pure Carl Stamitz. Mozart sounds to me like Mozart. One thing is the classical language, other is the voice of each one composer who composed in the classical era.
Listen to the Piano Concerto WoO4 by Beethoven and perhaps you'll find some likeness in the slow movement.
Para mim isto é puro Carl Stamitz. Mozart soa-me a Mozart. Não devemos confundir o idioma clássico com a voz de cada compositor que escreveu durante o período do classicismo.
Já agora oiçamos o Concerto para Piano WoO4, composto por Beethoven na juventude, e talvez encontremos algumas semelhanças no andamento lento.
so schön!!
Ja, wirklich sehr schön ! Ein Komponist mit grossem Talent ! Ein feines Meisterwerk .
En rigtig, rigtig god livfuld lystig vitaminrig klaverkoncert dejlig at lytte til........
Bravo brilliance music
Spiritual levitation by Carl Stamitz.
This is awesome and highly underrated!
AB / Absolute Beautifulism
10:16 II. Andante moderato Rudolf Breitschmidt Violine (recording 24./25.Nov 1964)
Great classical music, magnificent creativity !!
Ich bedauere sehr, daß man die Interpreten nicht sehen kann, ansonsten wunderbar und sehr gefühlvoll gespielt!
This is GREAT.
charmant léger du Mozart
***** Quelqu'un qui prend en cours ce concerto pourrait faire cette réflexion "Tiens un concerto inconnu de Mozart". Vraiment très proche pour le non-esthète que je suis. Un pro verrait sûrement la différence !
The glockenspiel effects in the finale echo Papageno's "Ein Mädchen oder Weibchen". Stamitz' piano seems to have had a wider upper range than Mozart's, or perhaps this concerto was written towards 1800?
Beautiful
Refreshing !!!
encore un grand compositeurde musque classic je me regale d'ecoute se concerto pour piano!
ok I guess. compared to mozart's concertos K 4449ff the work fails to meet that standard of greatness, but the few do. I've always been fond of stamitz's viola concerto, though it is also superficial if graceful. there are many classical composers worth hearing. stamitz is surely one of them.
Only MONEY make the world go round ! For a click - baite YOU can play all sorts
of music YOU want at any time !
Great!
Can someone please tell me how to find the music sheet for this Concerto?
🌈MANNHEIM MANNHEIM ☄️
Felicja Blumental was a finest pianist. This's classical not Romantic concerto. C.P.Stamitz was born before Mozart and had his own style.
MIRINAE!
Do You know the Opus Number ? Thanks in advance.
On se tutoie ?
alguien sabe donde puedo conseguir el pdf
imslp.org
Try with 1.25 speed!
The Allegro and Rondo-Allegro do seem just a bit slow, compared to other performances of Stamitz I have heard.
Can anybody send me the score?
imslp.org/wiki/Category:Stamitz,_Carl_Philipp
voici un autre grand compositeur de musique classic c'est comme du Mozart j'aprecie de l'ecoutémes
en repassant mon linges.
cela ressemble a Mozart !
Moins connu que Mozart et même trop peu connu sans doute.
Carl philipp Stamiz pareille a Mozart se compositeur je le decouvre mercy a celui qui la mi en ligne!
Cela ressemble plus aux concertos pour pianos de haydn que ceux de Mozart. Le style...la galanterie...comment comparer par exemple les concertos 19...20..24 de Mozart avec ces tres beaux concertos de haydn..stamitz ...jean chrétien bach?...ça a la couleur...la saveur..mais ce n' est et ne sera jamais du mozart. L' esprit est different et le modernisme aulleurs
Oui, plus de ressemblance avec Haydn ! Les concertos de Mozart sont plus riches en couleurs , plus étoffés dans l'orchestration ; simple avis de mélomane ...
Ceci étant, cette oeuvre de Stamitz , d'une grande délicatesse, a indéniablement beaucoup de charme .
Can i just say his pieces sound a little mozarty
jindřiška
uber ad sucks
sta12
Lembra Mozart.