PHANTOM THREAD | Why Finding Love, Requires Letting Go
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My first ever video on this channel was Punch-Drunk Love because Paul Thomas Anderson is one of my favourite film directors. So I was very excited to dig into Phantom Thread and share my thoughts on Reynolds emotional journey of letting go. The film is very small and simple in scale but still manages to be packed with meaning and deliberate uses of film form.
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On my 1st viewing; I got a very mysterious feel about the film, but after multiple viewings, I though it was hilarious. I wonder if other people really found it to be a comedy???
One of the best things about this film is how much it subverted my expectations. I was thinking it was going to be more like a Merchant Ivory film, something more dramatic and tragic even. I was waiting for the moment where Reynolds would go insane, Alma would die, or something more “expected” to occur. Then I was sure Alma was going to be the master manipulative villain who was planning to inherit and take over everything Reynolds had built. By the time the film ended, I was taken aback as it was a complete blindside to everything I had built up. This was a sadistic romance with unusual power moves, but in its dysfunction, they strike the balance necessary for their romance. And I saw it again, just to pick up on the little nuances of missed on initial viewing. To me, this is a dark comedy that is dressed up as an Oscar bait film. I truly enjoy the cat and mouse game these two play.
Yeah the tone is very specific and I was caught off guard of the first viewing too, I liked it but didn't really know what I felt about it. On second viewing I enjoyed it alot more, I knew the tone and didn't have any preconceived notions. The second time I was able to see the humour alot more and definitely found it to be a dark comedy.
I didn't enjoy the games played so much. What I loved was the chiseling of two people. True, Alma could have and maybe should have walked away just for peace of mind. But it was not to be. They were meant to meet and grow up together. Now I personally wouldn't poison my partner to get there, but hey it worked for Reynolds. Clearly this man needed to be broken down before being put back together.
Oh but I also meant to say I loved your comment.
Dang dude. Great analysis. This is maybe my favorite film from PTA, and I absolutely love it but even after multiple viewings I still couldn't figure out what was so great about it. This analysis totally helped me get a better grasp on some of what was great (I can't believe I didn't even notice the dolly shot that pushes past the dress).
My absolute favorite moment in the film is that moment when Woodcock takes the bite. I'm curious what you thought of it? In my mind that's the key to something you mentioned, that neither of them "wins" in the end. By my read Reynolds totally knows Alma is poisoning him again, and when he chooses to eat it anyway, he's allowing her to control the situation, but is clearly trying to control her control of him. It's a very, "I'm letting you win here" kind of move, that I think is perhaps the balance that will allow them to continue.
It is a funny movie, I laughed several times watching it.
Thanks man. Yeah thats how I took the final egg scene, that Reynolds knew and has deciding if he really wanted to give in and let her win and after her comment, then he knew for sure cause it was what he was hoping for and needs.
I feel like this scene draws back to the staring contest. I don’t know if I’m reading too much into it, but I feel like Woodcock blinks while he’s chewing as a form of submission to Alma. And then Alma almost deliberately blinks back twice, as if she’s acknowledged his submission and equally submits herself to him. You could almost end the movie right here in a Damien Chazelle’s Whiplash sort of ending.
I think the surrender is real for him though. He allows it not simply to let her think she is winning, he realizes how good it is for him. He admires that she knows what he needs, it's that old chestnut. He loves her because he knows she has the human side of him figured out.
Greenwood should of won the Oscar
I know, that mother sequence in the middle has the most haunting, comforting, moving emotional movement ever!
He should have won 3 oscars with PTA. There will be blood, master and phantom thread
I still can't believe No country for Old Men beat TWBBm I mean I love that film but TWBB is waaaaay better!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ for me that year it's
1. TWBB
2. Assassination of Jesse James
3. No country
Assassination is so underrated, going to be regarded as a masterpiece 30 years from now.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ what's your favorite greenwood PTA score? It's so hard to choose. For me blood is the best followed by the master, then phantom thread and inherent vice last. It will probably keep changing by the most recent movie I watched
PTA films are about people who aren't really good people, finding happy endings in their own world. (except There Will Be Blood) they are flawed and normal people. They don't wield some higher morality nor are they without flaw. The characters can be hypocritical at times, narcissistic and selfish. However, by the end of the story they usually find their own happiness in one form or the other.
I really like how you put that, flawed character who find their own type of happiness. I think when it boils down to it, this is why I love PTA's films so much, that flawed way of making the best of what you are feels very human and raw.
As a cast member, (the Wedding Registrar), I really enjoyed this insight & analysis. Well done ! Ian Harrod.
Awesome!! Thanks man, thats so cool that you were part of the filming, it must have been amazing to be on the set and see all the magic happening! Glad the video gels with how you felt about the film!
Great analysis. Phantom Thread is quite a film. It really stuck with me once I finished watching it for the first time and it made me want to watch it again.
Yeah I found that it was on my mind a few days after and I had this urge to go back. Thats why I was really happy to spend some time digging into it for this video!
Phantom Thread
Phantom= Ghost
Thread= Story
Ghost Story? Eh? Ehhh?
Sorry.
I should have just started with this and then the video could have been a minute long, would have been much easier lol.
Thank god you’re way more articulate and insightful in your analyses. Love em!
Thanks man, appreciate the positive feedback! Looking forward to the next one with The Pursuit of Happiness!
No need to apologize
Exactly!!
One of PTA’s best
I know, I'm not sure most of the world thinks so but for my taste its definitely up there!
MUST SEE FILMS Absolutely. And it’s a testament to how good this film really is considering the strength of PTA’s other work
I know, even the ones that I don't love as much, its mostly due to the subject matter, but the films themselves are still high craft and detailed! So awesome!
Greatest ever
the best*
Definitely one of the best movies of the last 40 years. Photography, costume design and filming, not to mention Daniel Day-Lewis's flawless performance, make it an absolute masterpiece.
Incredible analysis! Phantom Thread is such a beautiful masterpiece. I'd definitely agree that the reason why Reynolds lets Alma corrupt him is because she is the mothering figure in his life that he's been longing for. Either way it's a wonderful, delicately shot masterpiece about a man so set in his way of thinking until he gets corrupted by a woman who loves him too much.
Thanks! I agree its a masterpiece and a film that gets more interesting the more you see it! I was surprised how much changed for me over a few viewings.
I love this movie more than words can describe. Not everybody's cup of tea, but I perceive it as one of the few "perfect" films. (A very subjective thing, of course.) Such a beautiful experience.
PTA always seems to make films that are so different and not for everyone, but I bet for everyone of his films, is someone who loves it and its there fav, always amazing quality despite the genre of style.
I've said it before...and i'll say it again....please review The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. And great review on Phantom Thread!
Thanks Eric! I know its such a masterpiece, and its on my list, hopefully get ti it soon! would love to sit down and rewatch it!!
Paul's best film to date in my opinion, a beautiful way for DDL to say goodbye. Vicky Krieps was fantastic!
Yeah its pretty amazing, but even more incredible is how lonely different his body of work is. The films feel very much like his work but all in their own way.
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Why wasn’t PTA nominated for cinematography??
I know it was a gorgeous film!!
I haven’t taken the time to really dive in like you have, but it’s interesting that, despite my not noticing the dress being pushed out of shot and Reynolds going to Alma first (for example,) the message comes through. Without my knowing why, I clearly understood the change in focus the next morning. That’s kind of your whole goal, I know: showing why it works. But it’s still exciting. Cheers.
Yeah I guess even for PTA as the director, he's employing all of the different uses of film form to support the narrative and create the feeling so the audience goes with the story, so its amazing and not surprising that these shots do there jobs and connect that way!
great video; the score on this film is one of my favorites.
Great video man! I got lucky enough to see this in theaters three times & everytime I saw it I fell more in love with it. PT Anderson can turn a simple love story into something so deep & fascinating. The film should of won every Oscar it was nominated for!
I know that was probably the most impressive thing about the film, was how it took a subject matter so small and a small scale location and really infused it with depth!
I have a different take on the ending, I viewed it as less clear whether it's a positive or negative outcome. He did break the curse but at the cost of a "toxic" relationship. You begin to wonder if this was any better than what he had before. I think the outcome of the ending is entirely subjective how the audience views it
Oh my i didnt quite expect the voice over guy was going to be a hot dude
lol.
5:54 I didn't know Michael Caine was in this movie!
Alma had such a feminine 🧙🏻♀️witchy way of healing her man and putting him in check! I just love it😻😻
The fashion was everything 🥰😍❤️
poisoning him first? get some help.
Just wanted to nitpick that the ghost scene is not the first with a subjective reality. Before we get to see a breakfast scene in which we have the ears of Reynolds and hear all the noise Alma is doing at breakfast. This has to be understood as a Point of View and not as a neutral or outside perspective.
Of course. That's a given. It's obvious that Alma doesn't see the mother. It's Woodcocks personal hallucination.
Yeah totally agree, I think pretty much the whole film is from Reynolds Subjective POV as a character but the rest of the film follows a pretty grounded logic except for that crazy mother scene that really jumps out of nowhere and because its unannounced it really shocks people. Totally agree with you though, that breakfast scene is hilarious and the POV really makes it.
Yeah on the first viewing I was waiting for her to scream but then she ignored and didn't see it.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_sure but honestly alma really was annoying AF at breakfast. Loved your review!
And his chewing the asparagus was so noisy!
I found the film mesmerizing and very funny the first time I saw it. I tend to think more of the film is hallucinatory however. Were you struck by the strangeness of the New Year's Eve party sequence? Perhaps after the sudden arrival of the ghost of Reynolds' Mother and the fact he was now under the influence of Alma's mushrooms, I was expecting there to be more hallucinations. PTA introduced the ghost of Mama Woodcock so suddenly too, so matter of factly, it reminded me so much of how Kubrick introduced his various ghosts in The Shining. The shots of Reynolds driving through the countryside reminded me of Alex and his droogs doing the same in Clockwork Orange, so perhaps, with all the Kubrick references, I thought PTA was hinting that we see the New Year's Eve party through Reynolds' prism of hallucination. What a scene it is though, beautifully staged and shot.
Yeah I'm will you here. Lots of Kubrick influences and just like other shots in the film being a manifestation of whats happening internally for him, the new year party is his mind going crazy and he tries to pull Alma away but she resists and he can't handle loosing all the control.
The surreal animal symbolizing how he sees other people you could say. I love the strangeness of it though. Everything else in the film is shot so unspectacularly. here's no complicated one take shots, no shot calls attention to itself, until those hallucinations. It makes the film unique in PTA's canon I think. When other directors want to call attention to something, they opt for 'more', whatever that 'more' might be for them, but PT does less than he normally does so the strange bits really stick out! I thought the actress who played Reynold's mother was perfectly cast too. One thing I always said about Kubrick was he had a great eye for a striking looking woman. The woman in the bath in The Shining is a good example. Yes, she is beautiful, but also rather strange. The twin girls are the same. They are two very striking young ladies. I can easily see Kubrick picking that actress to play the part of the Mother's ghost too.
Yeah I agree, Kubrick would have recognised her too. Yeah I was just saying that to someone else, how I was impressed with PTA doing less on this film and because of that other elements shine through.
Hahaha if that sounds like love to you, a literally toxic and codependent relationship, as well as a little incestuous if Rynols sees Alma as a mother figure, I really don't know what to tell you...
That ending shot of the two of them, where Reynold's isn't wearing his jacket is the second time we see that shot.
It's first appearance is at the 34 min mark.
Thoughts?
Yeah I did notice that on the second viewing. There definitely something to that. Its too specific to just be a double used shot, it will be for some meaning, for some reason, haven't thought about it took much. Seems different from foreshadowing, seems like it might be something else. I wonder whats just before and after that shot.
You’ve done it once again!
I was only “so-so” with this movie until the last scene, and then I loved it.
I loved the movie until the last scene then I was confused! lol. So really enjoyed re-visitign this film again to make sense of it and spend time in the house of woodcock!
Loved it!This is one of my favorite films of this year and certainly PTA's top craft.I would love to see an analysis of Stanley Kubrick's 'Eyes Wide Shut'.
Owww thats a good one, its been on my mind for years and I almost made it a few times but Rob Ager has done a stellar job of covering the film and I'm not sure how much more I would add. Certainly full of material that needs deconstructed anyway!
Yes,I have seen all of his videos and it's fascinating.So,if not that if possible I would love to see your take on 'Stay', Synecdoche New York',or 'Donnie Darko' and the last one I didn't understand at all.Maybe because of your in-depth study of it I will help me to appreciate more.
Yeah Rob Ager is the man, I have an interview with him on this channel if you wanna hear us chat. Also I have done Podcasts about the second 2 film you mentioned, check them out here: itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/must-see-films/id1412066099
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ Would love to check it out and explore these films more.Thanks!
Cool, hope its useful, both episodes are me trying to dig and discuss what I think is going on, but I agree with you they are crazy subjective and need some explaining to really enjoy!
U sound like Paul Thomas Anderson but with an accent.....
Michael, I love you very much!
I'm not sure how important it is, but the bride isn't French, she's Belgian, as we can see from the flag on her car as she pulls up outside the house. The actress who plays Alma is from Luxembourg, another of the Benelux countries, raising the possibility that her character in the film is supposed to be Flemish - i.e. also Belgian, but Dutch speaking rather than French speaking. Why is she in England? Perhaps because her parents were in the resistance and fled during the war - while the Belgian princess's father was held prisoner by the occupying Nazis and, some said, colluded with them. This would give an added dimension to her line, 'I live here.'
What was wrong with Ms. Rose?? Was she a drunk?
Yeah seemed like it. Taking advantage of the house of woodcock.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ oh, I thought that man was taking advantage of her because she had money.
I just saw this movie and didn't know what to expect when I started playing it. I'm the kind of person who skips around a lot but I watched it all the way through and can describe it as beautiful. I knew there was so much more to this movie than what I could so I started looking on TH-cam for breakdowns and must admit that this is the best one by far. Great job and thanks for your considerate approach.
Thanks man, I was looking for the same kind of thing after I saw the film but there really wasn't anything that really dug into the film, most of the blogs and videos were about the Daniel day Lewis retirement and didn't seem to focus on the actual film at all. So I'm glad this video did that for you.
I love this film so much! One of those things that you keep going back to and rewatching and then analysing and dreaming about it all over again. It's so nuanced!
Yeah after I saw it the first time it said with me for a few days, just on my mind and then when I started digging into it for this video I really enjoyed revisiting it and discovering more.
I have seen a lot of analytical movies breaking down phantom thread. I genuinely feel you have new and quite well detailed perspective on the piece. Thoroughly enjoyed the video and your content
Thanks man!! Yeah when I was researching this film a lot of videos and articles were so preoccupied with DDL retiring and how weird it was that no one actually started to dig into the film itself, so pretty happy to share this perspective!
MUST SEE FILMS it was one of my favourite films of 2017 and TH-cam unfortunately hasn’t been recommending me videos like these so I have to proper look but it was worth it. But it’s annoying when there are so many videos analysing films like Lady Bird (which wasn’t that great) instead of the masterpiece that is Phantom Thread. Your video really just shows the dedication and effort put into the movie by everyone involved
Thanks! Yeah thats why I try to breakdown films that are actually worth of study rather than just the most popular recent film, usually those phases will pass and wont be worth a second watch but Phantom Thread will only grow deeper with age as people dissect it more!
Agree. One of the good thing about this review is that it brings up the meaning of the hidden notes in the dresses Woodcock makes. I have always wondered about it. This is indeed a truly great and beautiful film by PTA. Easily motivates viewers to do multiple viewing.
I think I've rewatched this movie about 30 times since it came out. I find it so funny and heartbreaking at the same time. And I love DDL.
I agree, the more I watch it, the more of a straight up dark romantic comedy I find it.
Thanks for the video, although I can't agree with you, because their relationship has nothing to do with love. Love is when two people let go and fall to each other. The thing is, she didn't let go, she had to "force" him into loving her, but this can never be accomplished by doing what she did. They have their needs, desires, they may like and understand each other very much, but it's not love.
If this is not love, I don't know what is. She didn't force him into loving her. It’s obvious that, on first sight, he was as captivated by her as she was by him.
What she did was to force him out of his self-chosen ”curse“, his obsessions and compulsions. With success as ist seems. They both had to make a sacrifice, and so they learned to live in thier love instead of just being in love. She will not have to make another mushroom omelette.(I know what I’m talking about, since I once was kind of a woodcock myself.)
It's definitely not love. The man and the woman are the type of people who will never truly experience love
@@0cer0 it's addiction and control. not love.
@@meypuim2951 I wish you from the bottom of my heart that you have ever experienced something half as authentic as this "non-love".
@@allysiren I simply disagree.
Great analysis. I concur with almost everything you talked about except your take on love. True love is selfless. There is nothing selfless about both Reynolds and Alma.
This is the first movie from PTA that actually made me loathe one of its characters so profoundly. Of course I am talking about Alma. Let me elaborate.
The first night Reynold takes out Alma and tells her about his mother there is a scene where she asks why he is not married. From the moment she learns that he is single and has been all his life and how much she values and misses his mother she stars her crazy schemes to replace that love and devotion to herself. Although her intentions from this point on doesn’t show immediate signs of malevolence it doesn’t take long for her to show her true colors as a psychopath.
After some time passes and she cements her position in the Woodcock house she starts repeatedly saying “I want this, I want that” disregarding and disrespecting everyone around her. The Belgian bride enters the house and shit goes south. She does anything in her power to undermine Reynolds control and take over.
There is a scene where one of the cooks tells Alma that Reynold only likes butter in low quantities. She blatantly disregards this information and prepares the asparagus the way she likes for the surprise dinner. No mystery why that surprise dinner went south imo. After her failed attempt to take control over him, she becomes more heinous and extremely selfish in her desire to have total control over Reynolds by poisoning him and making him vulnerable and prone to care. When Cyril senses something fishy and calls up the doctor, Alma is extremely reluctant to allow the doctor inside knowing quite well that if the doctor examines Reynold her diabolical plan might become obvious. However, since Reynold has no idea of her actions, he is extremely impressed for the care and attention Alma shows at her that he foolishly thinks he needs her and proposes like a fucking idiot the next morning. Alma is not expecting this. For her there are couple more moves on the chess board to get there. Nevertheless she accepts it with open arms.
From this point onwards Almas fake angel masquerade ends instantly. She goes extreme egoistic. “I want this, I want that” goes to another level. PTA intentionally shows scenes where Alma eats loudly knowing perfectly that Reynolds hates that. You can see in Reynolds eyes his regret for proposing to her.
The last scene is so heartbreaking for me. PTA once again intentionally shows the pan in which Alma is cooking the poisonous omelet. She puts in copious amounts of butter again well knowing that Reynold hates it. I kept yelling at the screen “please don’t make him eat that PTA !”.
To sum up, there is no love in this movie. Instead there are extreme amounts of selfishness, opportunism, manipulation, power lust and control-freakiness.
They are both pathetic characters
agreed too but i also think its unfair for Reynald to bring alma and want her to completely conform to his life, including the way she eats. This whole movie is about the power struggle between the two. the both suck though, they both just want what they want out the relationship with a total disregard on the effect they have on each other but i guess thats the appeal of toxic love. its addictive, its a game, and the power struggle can be fun at times ;)
How much of the themes of this movie remind you of the issues discussed in the movie about J Edgar Hoover? Does Complex Trauma and Dysfunction have to go hand in hand?
Yeah they seem to, I have seen J Edgar, but Leo is awesome and I'm a massive fan of Eastwood as a Director so would definitely watch it!!
Well done on your analysis. I pretty much picked up on those ques. I may have lost my mind but this is one of the best films I have ever seen. So much that I bought the DVD and watch it over and over again. DDL is by far a terrific actor. He didn't have to become a weird character like Daniel Plainview or Bill the Butcher but an everyday person. There are men out there like him but it is truly amazing how he portrayed Reynolds...so believable. And I don't think DDL is anything like Reynolds. I've seen him in interviews on TH-cam and he is a lovely man... inside and out.
Yeah he seems like an awesome dude, and I couldn't get over how different this character was to TWBB, it was hard to take him seriously at first!
Hey thanks for this review. This movie seems to not have that many high quality reviews on TH-cam. But this is one of the good ones
PTA is the king of cinematic language imo
Agreed. Probably why I've covered so many of his films, his work is so fascinating!
I just saw this movie for the first time and your analysis going from the dress’ dolly shot to the use of the score throughout different scenes is absolutely fascinating. Thank you
Thanks, these where all the things on my mind when I first saw the film. Its funny, iv actually learned to like the film more, but I think its because I know what it is now.
dude, Ive been watching your videos for so long since punch drunk love analysis. thanks introducing me to my favorite director. keep it coming man.
love from Australia.
Thanks I.C! Thats awesome to hear, that Punch-Drunk Love video was a long time ago now lol. Yeah PTA is the man and glad to hear their are others out their that enjoy his work!
i watched this movie one time in my life. coming down off acid straight after watching the power of the dog. i look at see phantom thread on netflix and this thing absolutely captivated me. the power of the dog crushed me emotionally and physically and i feel like phantom thread literally rebuilt me piece by piece
it was a really good film, i really loved the portrayal of the power dynamics id say it was even pretty sexy BUT i did think the twist was a bit farfetched and can see why some people see it as a comedy xD imagine if it took hours of fever, vomiting and diarrhea for you to let your guard down and be vulnerable with your partner every time your relationship depended on it. Besides that, it was beautifully filmed, and the score was the cherry on top of the cake.
0:57 now this made me laugh so much 😅
lol This film is definitely a dark romantic comedy
Nitpick: The bride is Belgian.
Yeah I don't know where I got the French things from, weird!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ It happens to the best of us.
Please review some David Fincher movies. Zodiac (probably his best) was overlooked in the same year (2007) that saw No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood.
Iv actually been binging watch some Fincher films recently, he's so amazing, would love to do something on him at some point. Gone Girl especially is awesome!
I wonder what the significance was of Reynolds mother’s dress’ Russian, Byzantine (which influenced Russian traditional clothing) aesthetic. I can’t help but feel like it has significance beyond just aesthetic inspiration. Is it simply a nod to superstition and conservatism, very dominant aspects of Russian culture? Is it perhaps a nod to foreignness and mystery (Alma herself is an immigrant, and she is a ‘stranger’ that must integrate into Reynolds’ life)? I’ve always wondered about this.
Hmm I've never thought about that, but in a film about dresses and knowing the filmmaker enjoying putting meaning into all details, I'm 100% sure their will be a specific reason for the mothers type of dress!
Such a marvelous video. I like your point of views. Subscribed.
Excellent review!
I absolutely adore this movie and you have done it perfect justice.
Thank you.
Thanks, I loved it when it first came out, but something about it always lingers in my mind after watching it. Great character study.
MUST SEE FILMS I agree!
One of the reasons I just completely fell in love with the movie is the depth of the characters, and the originality.
One of the best examples being the omelet scene, I expected that Alma was going to be that clichéd, bitter husband-poisoner, and had used a lethal amount of mushroom, and Reynolds would either angrily confront her, or die, and the turn out just totally obliterated my expectations.
Just lovely writing!
I think the haunting quality it has owes a lot to the cinematography and incredible score, there's this great analysis on it by Brian Krock, if you're interested.
Not 100% sure but I think the princess is Belgian not French.
Thx for the channel & the great review . My impression is that the film is more about the fine or "the phantom " thread between love &control .
Alma fell in love but also fell in control ...her control love plan succeeded through taking "the mother control "role in poisoning him ,making him a vulnerable child again that needs her and wanting her by his side while she became mother then wife then mother again (baby stroller scene with sister watching) ..love ...can be very complicated ...thank you again
Yeah I agree, the themes of love and control are definitely central to the film!!
i agree and its kind of cringe, thats the only thing that takes really makes this movie feel lack luster for me
Wonderful video, but the comma in the title really bothers me...
Thanks Eggsy! lol Yeh I guess it doesn't really need it, I just say it in 2 chunks to break it up and be really clear with the premise of the video but your right it probably shouldn't be there lol.
How long did it take you to take apart what PTA had been up to for 2 years? :D Great video. Love it. Would love watch so much more on his writing / thinking process.
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Awesome! Glad he enjoyed the channel enough to share with people, hope you enjoy the video!
"French bride"? HRH is a Princess of Belgium.
Yes!
This was wonderful and beautiful and amazingly thought out. Thank you for your take and insight into one of my favorites of the year!! And yes, I found it hilarious.... a dark, subtle comedy.
Appreciate the kind feedback! Yeah it was one of my favourites that year too but the more I watched it its becoming one of my higher ranked PTA films.
I saw it an obscene amount of times in the theater. And since I own it, and watch it freely, its becoming one of my all time fav movies, not just PTA movies but ALL movies. Its just breathtaking. Every viewing offers more insight!
Yeah I definitely it will be a joy to come back to in a few years and fall in love with it again, and also probably notice more in it down the line.
Always look forward to you tackling PTA, and this did not disappoint. Good catch on the musical cues. I was too caught up in how beautiful Greenwood's score is to even begin to appreciate how it was operating on that level.
I also took note of the slow push in during Reynold's proposal, though I had a slightly different read. In hindsight, I think you’ve nailed it with the curse theme, but I still think there may be dual meanings at work. Instead of the dress being the focal point, it seemed to me that it was the mannequin carrying the symbolic weight. Early in the film PTA establishes the dress form as a symbol of Reynold's desire to exert control over the relationship by stripping Alma of her own individuality (scrubbing her make-up off; having her shed the striking colours of her evening wear to stand prone in her plain white underwear;) and rebuilding her through his gaze (“You don’t have breasts. It’s my job to give you some.”), like one of his dresses from scratch. This early scene begins with an establishing shot of the attic with the mannequin prominently centred in the foreground, setting the tone for what is to come. (Up until that point, the dynamic between the two was a healthy one; it's in this scene when cracks appear and Reynold's baggage begins to take effect.) Similarly, the proposal scene begins with an almost parallel shot, with the mannequin and dress centred in the foreground of what I think is a living room. A deliberate call back to the attic scene, to emphasize how things have changed? Anyways, this scene comes after Alma asserts both her own control on the relationship by flipping the script and this time rendering Reynolds prone and malleable, and in the process her own identity. Also maybe worth noting that after this point Alma never appears in pure white. Even when working amongst the team of seamstresses, she is set apart by her black vest, emphasizing the significant role she has carved out for herself within House Woodcock while also distancing her symbolically from the all white dress form.
I wonder if PTA wasn’t drawing from Fassbinder on this one. RWF spent a lot of his time exploring issues of power dynamics in sex and intimacy and employed the mannequin motif in The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant, even at times using camera movement to keep the image in the periphery of the frame, similar to what PTA does in PT.
This is really interesting. I totally agree with the idea of the mannequin and the different meanings across parallel scenes, I hadn't noticed that but it makes a lot of sense. Its great to see other people discovering more in this film, I'm sure when I watch it again years from now that it will be totally different.
It's as they always say, to truly love someone, is willing to let that person go. I also love how they display how much careers can form a wedge in between couples as well. Similar to how La La Land ended with, bittersweet.
Yeah exactly, how people can bring their job home with them and then theres no separation. Phantom Thread was an interesting example because Reynolds is basically an artist and I'm sure PTA and DDL must have had real life conversation like the ones in the film, with struggles to focus and juggle art life and family life.
MUST SEE FILMS I'd love a HBO limited series on just PTA and DDL living together for a month. They could make their own podcast, haha!
That would be so awesome, can you actually imagine the 2 of them talking about stuff lol, they would be fun to hang with.
MUST SEE FILMS during The Phantom Thread, press junket, I think PTA explained how DDL loves watching some throwaway reality shows.
DDL and PTA watching junk TV lol, thats a funny image. 2 great artists enjoying mind numbing entertainment, well deserved lol.
Great video! Not sure it's as happy of an ending in my view. Really glad you made this.
Loved the video!!!!!! Youre the best video essayist on PTA!
Thanks Gabby! Appreciate the positive feedback and there just something about his films that I love and speaks to me so much easier to dig into.
Do you remember the last time we talked to each other?
No, when was it?
sleepers
I understood this film. Either I'm getting good at analysis or it's the maturity that comes with age : ) dont know which.
What is with the punctuation in your title, my dude?
lol yeah it probably doesn't need that comma.
Enjoyed your analysis but I have one criticism unrelated to the content: please never, EVER use a script font in all caps. It's a typographic no-no and an amateurish blunder. One other tiny correction is the composer's name, he uses no "h" in Jonny-I too am a fan of his score for this film. Thank you, Darren.
Thanks man, typographic and spelling aren't my strength, usually do a once over to double check but sometimes I miss things.
Great Analysis😊👍
please make a video about
Spike Jonze's "ADAPTATION" also
Great job again ! Bonjour from Paris, France !
Thanks man, wow amazing to see these videos reaching different part of the world! Crazy cool!
Im curious about the gender bias in an analysis like this. Im often told men are more inclined to analyze through structures of power but i think a female analysis would tend more toward analysing points of conciliation and aquiescence. I think in this film this is particularly important; the film is occupied by mostly women as is Reynolds life and the sinister tones seem almost incidental to the end result of conciliation. The ending seems to almost nullify the significance of what has gone before.
I liked Inherent Vice in 2014 better. I didnt sleep in the 2nd act. good original score, but vice's liscened score is pretty good. But prose in both are really good, 60s becoming 70s, or the titular thread being woodcock's mothers hair lock sewed into his clothes.
I enjoyed Inherent Vice but I think I probably need to re-watch it, I found it so off-beat and weird. However I have a strange relationship with PTA films, some I dislike and then grow to love, like The Master.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ if you want to get the tempo of Inherent Vice you have to read it first, it is tough material for adaptation but Paul did it
Yeah it did buy it, but never finished it. will 100% need to give it another effort!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ you totally have to! some rainy weekend in upcoming autumn would be perfect
Absolutely!
You just made me love this film more than I already did. Great video!
Thanks, I imagine we had similar experiences, I wasn't sure what to make of the film at first although I knew I liked it, but the more I rewatched it and dug into it, the more I enjoyed it and saw it for what it really is. A weird dark romantic comedy.
Beautiful review! wanted to share what you thought about it before I watched it for the first time. Cheers.
Really impeccable analysis! Excellent.
Thanks Anirudh, PTA always has some great depth to dig into, this film is no different.
I love PTA and this film, But hate the redundant message that women must earn equality and respect enough to not be a abused, and they earn it by suffering enough until they commit psychotic acts of abuse to become an in control mommy figure to a weak man who can't do anything in return except be sick or tyrannical. Barf.
Taking power back? Shes nuts.
You know how when you're in a foreign country & you just drink up all the ENGLISH stuff on TV? That was the situation with this EPIC film! Of course, they replay it numerous times during the week & I was there for EVERY showing. LOL This movie was so HOT!! Daaaayum! By the time I'd watched it the 3rd time, I was analyzing this like crazy! Damn, this was sooo good!!
Yeah I found it much funnier and entertaining the 2nd and 3rd time. The first time I was so on edge and didn't know what I was watching, I had the same experience with The Master.
one of my newest favorites. thanks for this!
I liked the film instantly but it stayed in my mind for a good few days after, then on multiple viewings I really fell in love with the film! Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome stuff! Thank you! I'll subscribe as I'm as big a PTA fan as there is. I appreciate your time into making these videos
Thanks man, my first ever few videos were PTA films. Im a massive fan of his work, always great to see these videos reach other like minded people!
Alma wok a obeah on Reynolds
Voodoo!!
Fantastic video!
Could you cover Tarkovsky ?
Thanks Franklin, oww that would be interesting, any films you would recommend specifically?
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ any of his work that you would analyze would be amazing, but would love your take on Stalker or The Sacrifice specially.
Nice! Thanks for the suggestions, would be a totally different and of video but definitely worthy of study!
MUST SEE FILMS I would like Solaris in there as well. there are some similar "mother issues" in there which I can never pin down like the mother and wife having the same dress and hairstyle or the father often represented as an old man but the mother as younger and attractive (yes she died early so his obsession with her is kind of like Woodcock's in Phantom Thread.
That would be a great film to cover! Thank!
I would really enjoy your video on "cold war"
Hmm I haven't seen that, ill need to check it out! Thanks for the recommendation! Always looking for new films to dig into.
Well done, great research
Thanks man, Its such a fascinating film and the detail that PTA goes to is crazy, so always love picking it apart!
I think you would find “Closer” by Mike Nichols interesting
Hmm, I actually haven't seen it, but I love Mike Nichols. Thanks for the encouragement, totally gonna check this out!
Really really great video! Thanks to youtube for the recommendation. Now subscribed!
Thanks man! Great to have you on board and glad this video gelled with how you thought about the film, I really enjoyed digging into the PTA film!
Superb insights into PT by PT(A)!
Thanks, always love digging into his films!
Hey, great one, shared alot of your takes on this film, but didn't realize it until now, big up from Sweden!
That for the Sweden love! Yeah I felt a lot of this during my first viewing but it took me along time to articulate it, it was mostly a mysterious feeing that I think a lot of people get during the experience of the film, so hopefully this will connect with some people!
Excellent explanation!
Best review of this movie ... So far. 👍
Thanks man! Thats nice to hear, I watched pretty much everything I could on the film when I was making this and no one was really saying the things I was thinking so happy to share!
Great video!
Hugs from Portugal 🇵🇹
Thanks for the love! Glad toy hear you enjoyed it, got a new video coming this Thursday!
You should cover Hayaoh Miyazaki. His films are masterpieces.
Yeah I really love his work and the documentary on him working on his work. Lewis from channel Criswell has done a great video on him.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ Yes. I've seen that video.
Yeah its a great one, maybe if I deconstructed one film rather than talk about his body of work, that might work better, iv always loved Howl's moving Castle.
That's a fantastic film. Howls Moving Castle, Ponyo, Kiki's Delivery Service are just masterpieces.
Totally agree! haven't actually seen Ponyo, really need to see it, been on my list for ages!
its one of my favorite movies, and yet its so hard for me to watch because i envy the love the have for each other. i've been unhappy for 3 years now and every time i try to do something good for myself that i think will make me happy i end up self sabotaging myself and putting myself back months.
Beautifully made Darren! You are absolutely right love requires us a lot of letting go and I've been there trust me, I know exactly how it feels. It's like if you were digging your own grave in a way isn't? But it definitely worth it.
Glad you enjoyed the video. It ended up becoming a dark emotional comedy this film, but very sincere and authentic.
the end is subjective! with alma imagining the baby and whatnot
Yeah I could definitely see that being a possibility. Wouldn't put it past PTA.
shout out to anyone whos lost their mom
GREAT
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Loved it. Incredible run down of this masterwork for those having a difficult taking all of it in even after 3-4 viewings.
Also, I put this in my PTA Top 3 after not enjoying that much the first tome through. A lot of layers involved in this beautiful piece of art.
Thanks man, yeah I enjoyed it the first time but didn't fully grasp it all, PTA is a master of presenting all the layers that need to be pealed back, which is why his films are such a pleasure to watch, I enjoy his characters studies the best and this one is right up there.
Do you like foreign films? Have you seen Mother?????? Omg its soooooo good. The Korean one not aaronofskys
Yeah love Foreign film and Mother was incredible, loved the whole style and visceral feel of that world too. I want to see More by the same director.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ Have you been staying disciplined on scriptwriting?
& Yeah he's awesome; how about Memories of Murder?
No haven't seen that one yet, iv seen Tony's video on it but not the film itself! I trust it will be good! Yeah I'm digging into the screenwriting, writing everyday at the moment, but its a long slow process but its actually really informed the way I look at film so the study of writing has really be beneficial all round!
Great analysis! Thanks