I have lusted football since I moved to Green Bay in 1963. Met Bart Starr when I was 6, went to church with Vince Lombardi until I was 9. Conceived a Packers fan in Chicago. One thing I know is this, pros know more about football than I do. That said, it would be a blast to have tae Adams back in Green Bay.
Kraft was saying there’s a lack of leadership from the players, doesn’t mean Matt lost the locker room. Sometimes the team needs a wake up from the players, doesn’t mean the sky is falling, it just means they need more a vocal guy getting everyone up, it happens on all teams. You’ve got to have leadership from the coaches and the players.
Young players who believed their own hype. Thought they were just gonna roll to a super bowl and got smacked down. They needed this. They'll come back a better team next year for having gone through it.
I said it during the saints game on how inconsistent the passing game was. The running game was great that game. At on point late into the game, love was hovering around 50 percent completion. And people called me a whiner for nit picking during a 30 pt blow out. And that passing game performance showed itself the last 3 games of the year against the Viking, bears and eagles
A small percentage of us noticed what you noticed. I had zero confidence they would even be da Bears in that last game. They were not playoff material at all down the stretch.
In year 2 both Rodgers and Love went One and Done as Road Underdogs but OMG completely different QB takeaways from the way it ended and going into year 3. Love 200 Yds, 0 TDS, Passer Rating of 41, and 3 INTs. Rodger’s had 440 yds, 5 tds, and a Passer Rating of 121 in that Playoff loss. Dear God please don’t compare those 2 QBs anymore. Completely different tiers of talent. Which is ok but let's stay in reality. 2 HOF Qbs in a row was a dream come true. We were never going to have 3 in a row.
Do me a favor, list the guys Aaron was throwing to in that game, then list the guys Jordan was throwing to in this game.... I'll wait for that response. Not to mention, Love accomplished more in his first season than Rodgers did. That's not to say Jordan is better or even equal to Rodgers, it's to say give him time before jumping to conclusions. Don't forget, about 20 years ago people said we're moving on from a HOF QB, "we were never going to have 2 in a row". Crazier things have happened. GO PACK GO!
@@fcpchop88 I have season Packer Tickets and I was sold on Rodgers the day he out of nowhere had to play for a injured Favre and almost brought them all the way back to win against 1st place Dallas. The just had IT. Don’t try to educate me on the Packers my friend lol. I have a college Roomate that was in the Packer Front Office for over a Decade until his rightfully so Promoted to another Organization.
@@ian1753 So all of that is to say you aren't capable of being wrong? If you are that good at talent evaluation you would be on the staff not in the stands, pal.
@ After playing Sports in college I followed in my Dads footsteps in the Medcial Field. After a 20 yrs in Medical Sales Im now a Director of a Rare disease Biotech Company. Im pretty comfortable with my choices. However my friend who is now in Tennessee had to bust his you know what for roughly 70 Hrs a week for a decade plus to get where he is. He probably even works the same or more. Pro Football Executives is probably one of the most stressful jobs there is. Im glad we still make it a point to get together with our other College colleagues all these years later.
In the second half of the Philadelphia game one of our wide receivers injured his shoulder. As he was walking down the Packer sideline clearly in pain I observed the team sitting on the bench in the background. I was surprised that the players were just sitting there disinterested in what was going on. The body language did not look good. There may be some truth about Matt Lafluer losing the locker room. The team didn't seem to care or look inspired.
I dont think they were over matched. They were just not motivated and ready to be done. Thwy werent fighting to win. The locker room is in shambles. Either team doesnt support the staff or they dont stand behind love or theres jealous about whos getting paid and whos not etc. Something bad was going on in the locker room and i hope it blows up so they can fix it. Its disheartening after such a romantic season last year.
@@miketyson1717 So, with whatever things that you say were going on, you're also saying that player-player, the Packers have a more talented team than the Eagles?
I agree. They crowned him with a payday off a few good games. Now we Packer fans are stuck with him. If he shows me otherwise he will be an average QB in the NFL. Rough to swallow but here we are. Said it all off season last year do not overpay him off of a small sample size.
Anyone with an ounce of sense would've wanted to see him do it again before paying him like he was something he wasn't. He hasn't proven anything to this point. Maybe next year he takes a big step, but right now, he's nothing like the two that came before him (yet they paid him that way). He still throws the ball high and is about as uncoordinated of a runner as I've ever seen at the QB position.
I just don't understand how Tucker makes this comment with reporters standing around and no one asks the followup questions to get more specifics. It's as if they get a quote and run off to get their column written or post something on social media.
"I want to vomit every time I hear 'number one wide receiver' to be honest with you. It drives me crazy. That's something that YOU guys talk about. I feel like we have a bunch of them." Matt LaFleur earlier this season Oh but now some Packer fans think Love doesn't have weapons lol
The receivers absolutely stink this year. The best thing i can say about any of them is that Watson stayed healthy enough to play in 15 games. Reed came out firing but then Doubs threw his temper tantrun and Reed's focus went to Doubs and the. Reed disappeared for the rest of the season. And Wicks might be the lousiest good player ive ever seen. Literally leads the entire NFL in separation and cant catch a cold. That int on the right sideline was on him too. Didnt even get a hand on a jumpball in 1 on 1 coverage vs a shorter db. These guys stunk pretty much all year. When Rodgers was in year 2, he had 3 receivers who could be the #1 on this team. Maybe one of them will make a big 3rd year jump but im not counting on it. Doubs shouldnt even be on this team next year.
When this crew was healthy, it was pretty good, and the potential was even higher. But while Watson played he was not 100% too often, Reed disappeared, and Wicks was awful. Now with Doubs and Watson’s careers in doubt, they need immediate help. But you can’t blame MLF for feeling good coming into the year.
@@ian1753 He was already an afterthought in my eyes when he quit on his team midseason. Not only bringing him back, but then catering to him was a terrible move by Lafleur. None of these guys, especially not Doubs, have shown the kind of superstar ability to go making demands like that. They shouldve benched him for the remainder of the season then cut him in day 1 of the offseason. Dude's a loser with a loser attitude. It sucks that he got the concussions but it is what it is.
Tell the whole story. The entire pass game was inconsistent and it had as much or more to do with the lousy wide receivers as it did with Love. Worst drop rate in football, fumbles, blown assignments, Doubs throwing hus midseason hissy fit, etc. Not one of them took a step forward. Was Love supposed to run the routes and catch the ball too? Early in Rodgers career, he had Jennings, Driver, Jordy, and James Jones. Jones was the #4 and would probably be the #1 on this team. Thats how bad their receivers are but Love's just supposed to make magic happen all by himself.
How about getting Mike Wahle on for a guest. He has a great Packer's game film breakdown show on You Tube. It would be great to hear Wahle and Tausch talk Packers and old times etc.
They are all young and they overpay love and I believe there is some resentment with alot of players. Winning hides alot of flaws but lafools team is an open sore.
The QB needs to be the team leader but there should be one defensive player who steps up as leader for the defense and your stud play maker gets on the offenses ass.
Packers are moving forwards, not backwards. Adams returning is a pipedream. Dude will never be a Packer again, nor does he deserve to be. He thought he was too good for this team and life came at him real fast.
Everybody is trying to save Love. Pampering him. The dude sucked last year, and he sucked this year. The bad thing is he got hurt which opened up excuses for him. People must not remember the injuries Farve played with. As well as Rodgers and still carried this team. Week 18 I watched back up QB's with no experience step on the field and make strong accurate throws to receivers they had only week of practicing time with. Every mistake Love was making last year. He was still making this year. Throwing deep into double and sometimes triple coverage. Always throwing from his back foot and off balance because he doesn't want to take the hit. Other players notice this and judge him. Wide receivers who have always got to worry about being led into coverage and taking a serious hit. I have seen no growth in Love at all through two seasons. Packer best choice. Make our new DC the head coach and trade Love and start to develop Willis.
His mechanics are off. Bad feet hopping when in the pocket which leads to late throws because he has to land to throw it. Why he had high balls all season. Throws off his back foot which is why throws are under thrown.
Get a grip bro. Hes literally right on pace with Rodgers except he already has a playoff win. Love through 2 years starting: 18-14 record, 2.6:1 td to int ratio, 2 playoff appearances, and 1 playoff win with the youngest team in football those entire 2 years. Rodgers through 2 years starting: 16-15 record, 2.9:1 td to int ratio, 1 playoff appearance, and 0 playoff wins after inheriting a team that was 1 play from the super bowl. Historical context matters bro. It gives us perspective. Now step back from the ledge cuz its all gonna be ok.
@ stick your stats up your you know what. Stats are just something people like you spill out of your mouth to sound like you have some football knowledge. I just wonder what stat you will bring out next year to justify Loves horrible performances.
Yes that in a word lead the way in Loves dismal 2024 season . Helacks consisentency his attitude seems very caviliar also could be he's just a low key guy Love and Stroud seem very much alike in many ways.
I don't see the heart it takes to win it all in J.L. . There's quarterbacks around the league with less talent and more heart, and I'd take them any day. The leadership should start at quarterback. Kraft should have been targeted 8 times in that game.
Lafleur went away from basically all the things Love does well. All but eliminated playaction and the under center packages, no roll outs, no floods, no flow in playcalling whatsoever. Not sure what happened to Lafleur this year but he needs to be better.
Bad mechanics. Simple as that. He hops while in the pocket. He has to land before he can throw the ball, which leads to late throws. Tenth of a second in the NFL over a five yard throw is a big difference and even worse the further you go. He jas to rush his arm to make up for his feet being in the air so it's air mailed. He also throws off his back foot way too often which again leads to inaccurate underthrown balls. It's why it looks like he's not making timely reads it's simply he cannot throw it while in the air. Even his dropbacks in the gun are lazy at times and slow. Also with his inaccurate passes there's no run after the catch for our receivers. How many passes for Love this season were just simple screens which are easy completions. Anything otjer than a screen this year the guys were having to fall down to catch the balls so a five yard throw is only five yards.
Listen one blocked Fieldgoal from being swept by the Lions,Vikings and Bears on the year. Context to a fluff record. He throws way too many hospital balls to wr his mechanics are awful at best and hes a turnover machine. Without Jacobs he would throw 25 ints. 55 million is stupidity at its finest
Receivers are overrated - good but not great. GREAT wideouts, think Chase, Jefferson, etc., make their quarterback look good by making terrific plays. See some of that in GB - not a lot. They need a burner because they can't count on Watson. I also think offense was seldom in a rhythm this year. I watched Stafford carve up the Vikes and cripes, boom, the ball is out, boom high-percentage plays underneath. boom. then, accurate throws over the top. When you watch other teams, sometimes the Pack's flaws get pretty obvious. Do the GB coaches ever watch other games? I mean, it is a copycat league, right?
We had stretches of seeing that kind of offense, but not enough. Play action should have been much better given the running game. Watson was not healthy often and that really hurt the passing offense. You are right, though, he can no longer be counted on to stretch the field, and they really need that.
@@merlinames9197 How many times are you going to post this? Knock it off already. He didn't make a damn bit of difference with the Jets and 1000 yards over 17 games doesn't mean a damn thing.
@@cardinalfang7725 "Our WR's" are not that good . . . . that's the point. and I will mention it as many times as I please. Ignore it if it triggers you. LOL!
Tae needs to come home, but not if the price is crazy... The Pack only spent $12M on the WR room this year, so Doubs needs to be locked up and then pay Tae $10-$12M a year for 1-2 years to be the bridge. Watson will likely miss most of the first half of next year and another draft will help too. If Tae wants $15M+, let him look elsewhere. He's not what he was in 2021 and won't catch 100+ balls in this offense. Still need a guy to lead, but not break the bank.
Not sure they will lock up Doubs with back to back concussions. 1 more career could be over. I think theres a good chance he gets traded if we pick up a legit WR in free agency. Might be in a package deal for a trade for a impactful Edge or DB
You can make a strong argument Rodgers has the most impressive passing statistics of all-time. We will always be disappointed in Love’s play if we compare him to prime Rodgers.
The fact is... unless you're working in the organization itself none of you who are commenting and all the podcasters have no idea what's going on - PERIOD!!! GO LOVE!!! GO PACK GO!
Here is the the truth...Love was drafted on the premise on an insane amount of ints in his last year in college. His inconsitencies was shown then.This year in GB.. WRs didnt help with the drops. If they depend on schemes/random opportunities more than talent they will never help Love. He still can improve but with that payday..it went from ENCOURAGED to EXPECTED. ELITE players execute in time of need. (Love) At this point it's either you got it/close to having it or you don't. Paydays comes with appreciation and expectations for BOTH sides.
I think Kraft was referring to Alexander in the locker room. I think Alexander is toxic and a lot of back and forth was going on with MLF and Alexander Listen to this theory. Bring back Adams. Next season trade Doubs and Watson. Then draft another WR this year .
Trade Watson based off what? What FULL season? Dobbs is the best of the group. Reed is a bit undersized for Love's capabilities. He can't be a consistent #1 option conventionally with what's in place now. The drops by all is a big issue as well. Drafting burners with good hands who can make immediate impact is a viable solution.
I am NOT a fan of Adams 'coming home'! What did he do for the Jet's? Ugh. Wake up, folks. His day in the sun is over! He'd offer more division, distractions n a whole lotta prima donna bs to deal with!
He left and wanted to play with his buddy. Then he wants to play with Rodgers again. Now he wants to play with Love. He can stay out for all I care. If he comes back, it better be real cheap, otherwise let him find another team...again.
He left on the AR failed negotiations. I dont think he trusted JLo. One would wonder if he feels the same now. They need guys that can get OPEN and CATCH the ball.. NOT be SCHEMED OPEN and DROP the ball.
It boils down to coaching. Look at all the years the Packers couldn't win! Bengtson, Starr, Gregg, Infante, Devine, Rhodes, Sherman. What's the common denominator? Poor coaching. Not until Wolf brought in Holmgren and Favre did the Packers actually turn things around. As far as the QB, Packers also obtained 2 great ones; Favre and Rodgers. Love isn't in that conversation and may never be. Remember you "Can't change a leopard's spots" and Love has those spots that seem to be unchangeable. The catalyst is good coaching.
I have lusted football since I moved to Green Bay in 1963. Met Bart Starr when I was 6, went to church with Vince Lombardi until I was 9. Conceived a Packers fan in Chicago. One thing I know is this, pros know more about football than I do. That said, it would be a blast to have tae Adams back in Green Bay.
Kraft was saying there’s a lack of leadership from the players, doesn’t mean Matt lost the locker room. Sometimes the team needs a wake up from the players, doesn’t mean the sky is falling, it just means they need more a vocal guy getting everyone up, it happens on all teams. You’ve got to have leadership from the coaches and the players.
Young players who believed their own hype. Thought they were just gonna roll to a super bowl and got smacked down. They needed this. They'll come back a better team next year for having gone through it.
Devante Adams is gonna love trying to get catch footballs thrown into the dirt or 3ft over his head when he’s wide open.
Packers need to fix these issues next year or LF is gone with many soon after following him out the door.
LF game plans and play calling were to many times awful he did not put our offense in the best situations to win.
Love will never be the player to be vocal. He looks like he doesn’t care what’s happening
I said it during the saints game on how inconsistent the passing game was. The running game was great that game. At on point late into the game, love was hovering around 50 percent completion. And people called me a whiner for nit picking during a 30 pt blow out. And that passing game performance showed itself the last 3 games of the year against the Viking, bears and eagles
A small percentage of us noticed what you noticed. I had zero confidence they would even be da Bears in that last game. They were not playoff material at all down the stretch.
I said the same thing. Some of us Packers fans just wont admit Love's deficiencies were being hidden behind our run game
In year 2 both Rodgers and Love went One and Done as Road Underdogs but OMG completely different QB takeaways from the way it ended and going into year 3. Love 200 Yds, 0 TDS, Passer Rating of 41, and 3 INTs.
Rodger’s had 440 yds, 5 tds, and a Passer Rating of 121 in that Playoff loss. Dear God please don’t compare those 2 QBs anymore. Completely different tiers of talent. Which is ok but let's stay in reality. 2 HOF Qbs in a row was a dream come true. We were never going to have 3 in a row.
Do me a favor, list the guys Aaron was throwing to in that game, then list the guys Jordan was throwing to in this game.... I'll wait for that response. Not to mention, Love accomplished more in his first season than Rodgers did. That's not to say Jordan is better or even equal to Rodgers, it's to say give him time before jumping to conclusions. Don't forget, about 20 years ago people said we're moving on from a HOF QB, "we were never going to have 2 in a row". Crazier things have happened. GO PACK GO!
@@fcpchop88 I have season Packer Tickets and I was sold on Rodgers the day he out of nowhere had to play for a injured Favre and almost brought them all the way back to win against 1st place Dallas. The just had IT. Don’t try to educate me on the Packers my friend lol. I have a college Roomate that was in the Packer Front Office for over a Decade until his rightfully so Promoted to another Organization.
@@ian1753 So all of that is to say you aren't capable of being wrong? If you are that good at talent evaluation you would be on the staff not in the stands, pal.
@ After playing Sports in college I followed in my Dads footsteps in the Medcial Field. After a 20 yrs in Medical Sales Im now a Director of a Rare disease Biotech Company. Im pretty comfortable with my choices. However my friend who is now in Tennessee had to bust his you know what for roughly 70 Hrs a week for a decade plus to get where he is. He probably even works the same or more. Pro Football Executives is probably one of the most stressful jobs there is. Im glad we still make it a point to get together with our other College colleagues all these years later.
@@ian1753 Cool story... 👍
In the second half of the Philadelphia game one of our wide receivers injured his shoulder. As he was walking down the Packer sideline clearly in pain I observed the team sitting on the bench in the background. I was surprised that the players were just sitting there disinterested in what was going on. The body language did not look good. There may be some truth about Matt Lafluer losing the locker room. The team didn't seem to care or look inspired.
I think those players realized they were overmatched.
I dont think they were over matched. They were just not motivated and ready to be done. Thwy werent fighting to win. The locker room is in shambles. Either team doesnt support the staff or they dont stand behind love or theres jealous about whos getting paid and whos not etc. Something bad was going on in the locker room and i hope it blows up so they can fix it. Its disheartening after such a romantic season last year.
@@miketyson1717 So, with whatever things that you say were going on, you're also saying that player-player, the Packers have a more talented team than the Eagles?
The grading scale is exactly is he as good as our last 2 qbs. Maybe a hard curve but that's the standard in Greenbay
I agree. They crowned him with a payday off a few good games. Now we Packer fans are stuck with him. If he shows me otherwise he will be an average QB in the NFL. Rough to swallow but here we are. Said it all off season last year do not overpay him off of a small sample size.
Anyone with an ounce of sense would've wanted to see him do it again before paying him like he was something he wasn't. He hasn't proven anything to this point. Maybe next year he takes a big step, but right now, he's nothing like the two that came before him (yet they paid him that way). He still throws the ball high and is about as uncoordinated of a runner as I've ever seen at the QB position.
I think we can all agree here that next season we will learn a lot about Jordan Love
Love’s an average qb on a pretty decent team. Without Jacob’s this year, the Packers would have been bad.
Tea could assure his HOF if he come back. The issue is 10-20M vs. 35-38M.
I just don't understand how Tucker makes this comment with reporters standing around and no one asks the followup questions to get more specifics. It's as if they get a quote and run off to get their column written or post something on social media.
Have you seen any good reporting recently, on sports or anything else?
Tauscher is hilarious. I'm a new fan. Funnier version of a lot of dudes I went to HS with. And now I'm convinced. Bring in Tae and Kay!
"I want to vomit every time I hear 'number one wide receiver' to be honest with you. It drives me crazy. That's something that YOU guys talk about. I feel like we have a bunch of them." Matt LaFleur earlier this season
Oh but now some Packer fans think Love doesn't have weapons lol
The receivers absolutely stink this year. The best thing i can say about any of them is that Watson stayed healthy enough to play in 15 games. Reed came out firing but then Doubs threw his temper tantrun and Reed's focus went to Doubs and the. Reed disappeared for the rest of the season. And Wicks might be the lousiest good player ive ever seen. Literally leads the entire NFL in separation and cant catch a cold. That int on the right sideline was on him too. Didnt even get a hand on a jumpball in 1 on 1 coverage vs a shorter db. These guys stunk pretty much all year. When Rodgers was in year 2, he had 3 receivers who could be the #1 on this team. Maybe one of them will make a big 3rd year jump but im not counting on it. Doubs shouldnt even be on this team next year.
@williamhermann6635 Doubs getting 2 bad concussions in about a month you could make the argument he is one more hit away from never playing again
When this crew was healthy, it was pretty good, and the potential was even higher. But while Watson played he was not 100% too often, Reed disappeared, and Wicks was awful. Now with Doubs and Watson’s careers in doubt, they need immediate help. But you can’t blame MLF for feeling good coming into the year.
@@ian1753 He was already an afterthought in my eyes when he quit on his team midseason. Not only bringing him back, but then catering to him was a terrible move by Lafleur. None of these guys, especially not Doubs, have shown the kind of superstar ability to go making demands like that. They shouldve benched him for the remainder of the season then cut him in day 1 of the offseason. Dude's a loser with a loser attitude. It sucks that he got the concussions but it is what it is.
Tell the whole story. The entire pass game was inconsistent and it had as much or more to do with the lousy wide receivers as it did with Love. Worst drop rate in football, fumbles, blown assignments, Doubs throwing hus midseason hissy fit, etc. Not one of them took a step forward. Was Love supposed to run the routes and catch the ball too? Early in Rodgers career, he had Jennings, Driver, Jordy, and James Jones. Jones was the #4 and would probably be the #1 on this team. Thats how bad their receivers are but Love's just supposed to make magic happen all by himself.
How about getting Mike Wahle on for a guest. He has a great Packer's game film breakdown show on You Tube. It would be great to hear Wahle and Tausch talk Packers and old times etc.
They are all young and they overpay love and I believe there is some resentment with alot of players. Winning hides alot of flaws but lafools team is an open sore.
Either matt lafleur lost the locker room or jordan love did. Its one of the two. I hope it comes forward and is fixed cause this sucks
The QB needs to be the team leader but there should be one defensive player who steps up as leader for the defense and your stud play maker gets on the offenses ass.
if the jets cut him you absolutely pursue him. do you trade for him with his current contract, not a chance.
Packers are moving forwards, not backwards. Adams returning is a pipedream. Dude will never be a Packer again, nor does he deserve to be. He thought he was too good for this team and life came at him real fast.
Everybody is trying to save Love. Pampering him. The dude sucked last year, and he sucked this year. The bad thing is he got hurt which opened up excuses for him. People must not remember the injuries Farve played with. As well as Rodgers and still carried this team. Week 18 I watched back up QB's with no experience step on the field and make strong accurate throws to receivers they had only week of practicing time with. Every mistake Love was making last year. He was still making this year. Throwing deep into double and sometimes triple coverage. Always throwing from his back foot and off balance because he doesn't want to take the hit. Other players notice this and judge him. Wide receivers who have always got to worry about being led into coverage and taking a serious hit. I have seen no growth in Love at all through two seasons. Packer best choice. Make our new DC the head coach and trade Love and start to develop Willis.
His mechanics are off. Bad feet hopping when in the pocket which leads to late throws because he has to land to throw it. Why he had high balls all season. Throws off his back foot which is why throws are under thrown.
Get a grip bro. Hes literally right on pace with Rodgers except he already has a playoff win.
Love through 2 years starting: 18-14 record, 2.6:1 td to int ratio, 2 playoff appearances, and 1 playoff win with the youngest team in football those entire 2 years.
Rodgers through 2 years starting: 16-15 record, 2.9:1 td to int ratio, 1 playoff appearance, and 0 playoff wins after inheriting a team that was 1 play from the super bowl.
Historical context matters bro. It gives us perspective. Now step back from the ledge cuz its all gonna be ok.
@ stick your stats up your you know what. Stats are just something people like you spill out of your mouth to sound like you have some football knowledge. I just wonder what stat you will bring out next year to justify Loves horrible performances.
He is worthless unless he had perfect protection. But then any QB can be great with that
@@jupnsmoke1717 Is there some idiot farm out there that spawns you clowns?
Yes that in a word lead the way in Loves dismal 2024 season . Helacks consisentency his attitude seems very caviliar also could be he's just a low key guy Love and Stroud seem very much alike in many ways.
I don't see the heart it takes to win it all in J.L. . There's quarterbacks around the league with less talent and more heart, and I'd take them any day. The leadership should start at quarterback. Kraft should have been targeted 8 times in that game.
Davante would really help GB. Our receiver crew isn't very good solid now.
I wonder if Jordan is playing in the right offensive system that is suitable for him specifically??
Lafleur went away from basically all the things Love does well. All but eliminated playaction and the under center packages, no roll outs, no floods, no flow in playcalling whatsoever. Not sure what happened to Lafleur this year but he needs to be better.
It has to be either lafleur or love lost the locker room
There is no system to save him
Bad mechanics. Simple as that. He hops while in the pocket. He has to land before he can throw the ball, which leads to late throws. Tenth of a second in the NFL over a five yard throw is a big difference and even worse the further you go. He jas to rush his arm to make up for his feet being in the air so it's air mailed. He also throws off his back foot way too often which again leads to inaccurate underthrown balls. It's why it looks like he's not making timely reads it's simply he cannot throw it while in the air. Even his dropbacks in the gun are lazy at times and slow. Also with his inaccurate passes there's no run after the catch for our receivers. How many passes for Love this season were just simple screens which are easy completions. Anything otjer than a screen this year the guys were having to fall down to catch the balls so a five yard throw is only five yards.
Listen one blocked Fieldgoal from being swept by the Lions,Vikings and Bears on the year. Context to a fluff record. He throws way too many hospital balls to wr his mechanics are awful at best and hes a turnover machine. Without Jacobs he would throw 25 ints. 55 million is stupidity at its finest
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Receivers are overrated - good but not great. GREAT wideouts, think Chase, Jefferson, etc., make their quarterback look good by making terrific plays. See some of that in GB - not a lot. They need a burner because they can't count on Watson. I also think offense was seldom in a rhythm this year. I watched Stafford carve up the Vikes and cripes, boom, the ball is out, boom high-percentage plays underneath. boom. then, accurate throws over the top. When you watch other teams, sometimes the Pack's flaws get pretty obvious. Do the GB coaches ever watch other games? I mean, it is a copycat league, right?
We had stretches of seeing that kind of offense, but not enough. Play action should have been much better given the running game. Watson was not healthy often and that really hurt the passing offense. You are right, though, he can no longer be counted on to stretch the field, and they really need that.
No thanks adams we dont need old high priced players. Our wr's are just fine the HC game plans are the problem...Go play for the chargers.
Not a WR on the Packers right now that's even close to as good as Adams, who by the way had over 1000 yards for the 5th consecutive year.
@@merlinames9197 How many times are you going to post this? Knock it off already. He didn't make a damn bit of difference with the Jets and 1000 yards over 17 games doesn't mean a damn thing.
@@cardinalfang7725 "Our WR's" are not that good . . . . that's the point. and I will mention it as many times as I please. Ignore it if it triggers you. LOL!
Love is a good backup, and they should have kept Willis in he is the better QB
Tae needs to come home, but not if the price is crazy... The Pack only spent $12M on the WR room this year, so Doubs needs to be locked up and then pay Tae $10-$12M a year for 1-2 years to be the bridge. Watson will likely miss most of the first half of next year and another draft will help too. If Tae wants $15M+, let him look elsewhere. He's not what he was in 2021 and won't catch 100+ balls in this offense. Still need a guy to lead, but not break the bank.
Not sure they will lock up Doubs with back to back concussions. 1 more career could be over. I think theres a good chance he gets traded if we pick up a legit WR in free agency. Might be in a package deal for a trade for a impactful Edge or DB
Doug’s should be gone. Decent talent on a team with crap receivers doesn’t deserve a big contract
Adams 32 years old. Price needs to be right
Tae won’t help if love throws the ball to his feet….or knees….or behind him…..or too far in front of him….
Imagine if next year is a mediocre season. Lafluer and Love are on the clock...
Why even say that? Do you want them to stink? I swear some fans love drama more than winning.
Adam could go to corn silage real easy also
I think a wakeup call means if we want to get farther in the playoffs, we need to be better. Cream fresh from the cow is amazing, come back Davante.
You can make a strong argument Rodgers has the most impressive passing statistics of all-time. We will always be disappointed in Love’s play if we compare him to prime Rodgers.
That being said Love regressed this year next year we’ll find out if he can return to the level he reached during the 2nd half of last season.
@@Tito_1982. Love doesn’t have the fire to be great.
Kay Adams - what a babe!!
The fact is... unless you're working in the organization itself none of you who are commenting and all the podcasters have no idea what's going on - PERIOD!!! GO LOVE!!! GO PACK GO!
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Neither does the organization apparently. Good lord.
Too many penalties at critical times
Jordan love doesn't get to be a good qb, it's great or bust. The packers broke up a championship window for the JORDAN love
Let's be honest the Wrs and super mid and The Eagles line destroyed the O line cheap team cheap results
Penalties all season long were a major issue game 1 to game 18. It never improved.
Jordan was awful! He’s got no energy in game!
He is highly paid, but by the end of his contract, he will be average. His contract is not out of line.
Here is the the truth...Love was drafted on the premise on an insane amount of ints in his last year in college. His inconsitencies was shown then.This year in GB.. WRs didnt help with the drops. If they depend on schemes/random opportunities more than talent they will never help Love. He still can improve but with that payday..it went from ENCOURAGED to EXPECTED. ELITE players execute in time of need. (Love) At this point it's either you got it/close to having it or you don't. Paydays comes with appreciation and expectations for BOTH sides.
Mark still looks like he’s 20.
Love is not the man for greenbay . Only won 1 div game 😮.
D. Adams wants to much money in which Packers don't want to pay. Period
I think Kraft was referring to Alexander in the locker room. I think Alexander is toxic and a lot of back and forth was going on with MLF and Alexander
Listen to this theory. Bring back Adams. Next season trade Doubs and Watson. Then draft another WR this year .
Trade Watson based off what? What FULL season? Dobbs is the best of the group. Reed is a bit undersized for Love's capabilities. He can't be a consistent #1 option conventionally with what's in place now. The drops by all is a big issue as well. Drafting burners with good hands who can make immediate impact is a viable solution.
Kay Adams is a Bears fan. Everyone knows that.
I am NOT a fan of Adams 'coming home'! What did he do for the Jet's? Ugh. Wake up, folks. His day in the sun is over! He'd offer more division, distractions n a whole lotta prima donna bs to deal with!
Had over 1000 yards for 5th straight year. Better than every Packer WR. Unfortunately, Love can't play very good.
He left and wanted to play with his buddy. Then he wants to play with Rodgers again. Now he wants to play with Love. He can stay out for all I care. If he comes back, it better be real cheap, otherwise let him find another team...again.
He left on the AR failed negotiations. I dont think he trusted JLo. One would wonder if he feels the same now. They need guys that can get OPEN and CATCH the ball.. NOT be SCHEMED OPEN and DROP the ball.
Be shocked if gutey went after adams
It boils down to coaching. Look at all the years the Packers couldn't win! Bengtson, Starr, Gregg, Infante, Devine, Rhodes, Sherman. What's the common denominator? Poor coaching. Not until Wolf brought in Holmgren and Favre did the Packers actually turn things around. As far as the QB, Packers also obtained 2 great ones; Favre and Rodgers. Love isn't in that conversation and may never be. Remember you "Can't change a leopard's spots" and Love has those spots that seem to be unchangeable. The catalyst is good coaching.
Davante is old and washed up. 🧼
Had over 1000 yards for 5th straight year. If that's washed up . . .
Rodgers in not generational he played way to often small in the biggest monents.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You are ridiculous.
they have muzzled 10, hes a colt and needs to be let go and show talents ,how 10 is hes as good as the coaching
He stinks 🦨
😂 he was never consistent 😂
AND THE REFEREES WERE JUST HORRIBLE
THE PACKERS GOT SOME BAD CALLS AND MISSED CALLS
Bring back Adams!
Its not his fault, fix the O-line.
Top rated o-line in NFL. Jordan can't pass with accuracy, that's not on the o-line.