I have a similar story with my great-grandfather. Zimri Moon and his family had a farm in Minnesota. The Adventists rented the farm to hold a campmeeting. It rained all week. Then on Sunday, the sun came out. A little lady went to the farm house and asked if the Quaker family would be offended if they put their laundry out to dry. That simple courtesy piqued the interest of the Moon Family. They started attending the meetings and were baptized. That little lady was Ellen White. Zimri's brother became a minister and was mentioned several times in Mrs. White's writings as 'Brother Moon'. I have the same emotional thoughts as you describe to think that God lead the Adventist to their farm and Mrs. White to talk to them.
Amazing. Thank you for sharing that story, Tracking God. Your great-grandfather was lucky to have met her. Let's share her writings by inviting others to egwwritings.org. God bless.
Not to create an argument but if the Lord's messenger said that our schools should not be acredited , why did we disregard this important warning? She also said not to join the world's conventional medicine system, but just the same we ignored that important message. How can we grow in faith if we disregard such important message ?
How do you get from 457 BC in the spring of the year. To the fall of the year of 1844. October 22nd. It's impossible! Your true prophet says that is the true date.. Jesus said a true prophet never lies!
@@JamieElison no 0 year. It goes 1 BC and next is 1 AD But, it was William Miller’s timeline and he was Baptist, not SDA. The SDA church was not formed until 1863. The 1844 movement was called the Millerite Movement. Ellen White was 17 years old in 1844 and was a Methodist, not SDA. The prophecy about the date wrong at first seemed the date was tarrying, but then they waited and figured out the right date when they realized no 0 year. Habakkuk 2:3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry Verse 2 is the instruction to write the chart out, thus why Miller made the chart. 2 And the Lord answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
@@JamieElison Millerism Christian movement founded by William Miller, which held that the Second Coming would come in 1844 This article is about followers of William Miller. For the mineral, see Millerite. The Millerites were the followers of the teachings of William Miller, who in 1831 first shared publicly his belief that the Second Advent of Jesus Christ would occur in roughly the year 1843-1844. Coming during the Second Great Awakening, his teachings were spread widely and grew in popularity, which led to the event known as the Great Disappointment. Wikipedia
@@JamieElison Eduard Sutherland talked about how the Greeks deceived Israel by telling them that they didn't have to change their religion, they also said to them just come and study at our universities. Well Israelites went to the Greek universities and got their brain transplant.
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i grew up SDA, and i figured my pastor and famliy couldn't possibly be wrong. however once i started actually testing her as a prophet. she doesn't even come close to passing. she has a bunch of prophecy that never came true. and everyone just looks the other way. she communicated with the dead. and said it was from God. i am currently leaving the church. God is Good and i am very thankful that God should me this before it was to late.
Thank God you saw the light. My barber is s seven day Adventist. I share with him the truth but he wants his truth. This seven day Adventist religion is nothing but a cult.
Why are you'll so quick to leave the sabbath keeping church? Jesus walked with judas knowing he would betray him .brethren let us stop making excuses and look to Jesus because you will find issues in every religion and it's members
@@deborahfrancois714 because the bible warns us to come out of babylon ( false teaching) for if we don't then we will be partakers. i still keep the sabbath and worship with them. because i believe fellowship is important. however i will never be a part of the church again. because i cant be a part of false teachings also they are not the only sabbath keeping church out there.
@@jeanelizabethterry7583 the investigative judgement for one. believing and following a false prophet. the health message being a salvation doctrine, just to name a few
The writings of ellen white helped me to understand the bible more and to see the changes i needed to make as pertaining to my diet ,dress,finance and many more .i love God even more when i read the bible and her writings.
@@carlisledick9172 - HA HA what a joke. I joined the sda through the books of EW. EW writing let me to JESUS and the BIBLE. So when people like you attack EW OR THE SDA CHURCH. it dont shake my faith a bit. People like have never read a page of EW books.
Ellen G. White's inspired writings are truly a huge blessing to God's end time people. What a gift from God! All honor and glory to Jesus Christ, our Desire of Ages. 😇🙌🏾
Why need Ellen White? Jesus is our saviour he was the last Prophet. Beware of false prophets we are warned yet you embrace her stuff against Jesus....????
I am an evangelical who is learning about the Seventh-day Adventist church only now. I am exploring, but I feel confindent that this man is sincere, and the Christians who live this are sincere as far as I am seeing. They actually live what they preach, and they FEEL empathy, compassion, and LOVE. They demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit. This is enough to get my attention, since this year, in 2020 I am seeing so much selfishness and hypocrisy in the American Evangelical Christian Church, which has truly broken my heart, and I believe has broken the heart of Jesus. So.....I am listening.....
Thank you sister for your message, we are all on our journey and we will find the truth and the truth will set us free. Also checkout amazingfacts.org and amazingdiscoveries.org
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Im so thankful for her writings. God gave her impacts for every situation in Life. Blessed are those who listening to the guidance of Gods Spirit. To God our father is the Glory and to our Lord Jesus Christ.
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@@AdventistOrgChurch except you wouldn't exist. Without the LIE of the 2300 days. That starts in 457 B.C. in the (spring.) It would be impossible to get to the (fall of 1844). that then teaches the LIE of a Jesus that does not save! That destroys the Jesus of Hebrews 7. But do compliment her and keep her there. You need her money in the offering plate!
I defend Ellen White's writing when former Seventh day Adventist and other denominations who called her as cult wanting to destroy her integrity and credibility. Thank you Jesus for Ellen G. White!
Amen. I join! Satan always attacks those who are closest to God, and do not forsake the Truth! Satan may be angry, amd fire hes arrows at us, but greater is He who is with us! In Jesus name, amen!
I thank God for Ellen White and the work she did. If it wasn't for her, I would have thrown the Bible out a long time ago as a work of fiction. But reading her comments and explanations, I was able to see how the Bible is a coheasive work of divine wisdom. I suspect that those who speak against her, have not read much of her writings. Maybe a little here and there, but not much and not in context. I will admit that I had my doubts for a while.....until I saw a series of lectures by pastor Stephen Bohr on Ellen White....that really opened my eyes to how her inspiration worked and how she passes EVERY biblical test of a true prophet. Whenever I come across something in the Bible that I don't understand, the first thing I do now is to go to see what Ellen White has to say on the subject. That usually clears things up straight away. She usually shows other bible verses on the subject that sheds more light that would take me, possibly a lifetime of searching to find on my own. Her knowledge of the Bible is absolutely amazing. If she is a false teacher as some claim, then why did her writings bring me back to the Bible and continue as a Christian? "You will know them by their fruits" Matt 7:16. I don't know of anyone who has read her writings (regularly and consistently), and then said, "Naww....I don't want to be a Christian"...in fact, just the opposite.
The SDA have has EGW and the Catholics have the Pope. Both false authoritative figures. No difference . The Holy word of God scripture is sufficient for me . I can understand scripture with out man's opinion .
Unbiblical teachings in the Adventists church: 1. The doctrine of investigative judgment 2. Christ moving from holy place to holy of holies in 1844 3. A heavenly sanctuary with a holy place and a holy of holies 4. Calling angels of the book of Revelation human beings 5. Pegging matters of salvation to the day of worship 6. Teaching that sealing is a number [seven/sabbath] The truth is that sealing in the Holy Spirt Let's explore these things in dails.
After reading through the comments, I must say this to my Christian brothers and sisters who are defending the attacks against the SDA Church: A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. Proverbs 15:1 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. James 3:8-10 Please chose your words wisely and remember that Christ said we are to love one another, we are to bless those who persecute you. Remember that we are Christ's representatives in this world, and He died for every person on this planet. Love is the greatest commandment! Peace be unto you all... ✝️🙏🕊️
What a blessed, heartwarming, hopeful and truthful message! Thank you so much for your efforts to stay somehow in touch with our big SD Adventist family around the world, pastor Wilson! May the Lord bless you daily so that your guidance is completely tuned to the desires of the Holy Spirit!! Happy Sabbath to you and all the brethren on earth!
Can someone here please help me understand this Ellen G White quote-“In heaven there will be no color line; for all will be as white as Christ himself. Let us thank God that we can be members of the royal family” (Ellen G White, GH March 1, 1901, par. 20). Thanks.
Why are people so hung up on race? This will not even be a consideration in heaven. No matter what race people where on earth, they will be overjoyed to be in heaven . Let go of the whiny race baiting victim hood. It’s of Satan, the first one to cry discrimination. Move on to God.
Thank you for sharing. Continue to uphold this truth on this platform. God will touch hearts of his children to accept this truth. God will lead his church and children home. To God be the Glory.
A challenge here. Ellen White never tested the spirit of her guiding angel as we are commanded to do. 1John 4:1 "My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the Spirit, but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere." Question: Are you willing to Test your own prophet? If so check out the series "Test the Prophet" here on TH-cam. And after all, if there is no fault to be found in her then this should be a welcome challenge. And if you are don't think you can handle it, please ask yourself why. Again, we are commanded to test all things.
Adventists refer to EGW's writings as Spirit of Prophecy. The truth is that "Spirit of Prophecy" is one of the titles of the Holy Spirit. No doubt the Holy Spirit is unwelcome in the Adventist church!! The traditions that were established by the founding leaders of the church supersede the Holy Spirit!! These traditions form the bedrock of Adventist stronghold.
It's amazing how we all read the same bible and we all came out with different interpretation as I read fru the comments. And no one think his/her thoughts are wrong. So who is right and who is wrong? Eevery person is right in their own opinion. So wether you are seventh day Adventist or not, we all will be judge according to the light we been given. And if we can't make it to heaven, we can't blame anyone or pastor or any church or seventh Day Adventist. It will be our own fault. God bless you all.
Hi a concerned Christian you don’t have to worry about who’s right or wrong if you just read the words in the Bible and believe them as written God did not leave us guessing nor did he leave this open to interpretation for example when God says in the Bible in the book of Daniel 2300 days that’s what he means when someone like Ellen White changes his words into years When no one told her to do that that’s where your problems start. Christians don’t do that we do not change God’s words
it wasn’t just Ellen White who did that other religions like the Jehovah witnesses in the Mormons have all changed words and printed their own Bibles you can’t do that the Bible matches the scrolls the Dead Sea Scrolls that were found that are thousands of years old that should tell everybody that the Bible is pretty much OK as it is written and does not need to be written by other religions
Jesus said pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the sabbath, I say pray that our flight will not take place in winter or on the sabbath. Jesus said if anyone chooses to do Gods will he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own, I say ask the Father if his teachings were spoken through Jesus. This is the narrow gate and narrow road that leads to life.
Rosaria Chirwa - You will be richly blessed if you do. I have read Prophets and Kings over and over (my favorite), as well as The Great Controversy. I recently purchased a new copy of Desire of Ages and need to begin reading this book. I have never completed it, but will do so now.
Indeed....I have been blessed by the Great Controversy as well and Steps to Christ. Now am ongoing with Patriachs and Prophets. The SOP has been a blessing to me. Praise God!!
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Help me please find TH-cam videos of Ellen Whites writing, as my old eyes strain to read text. I’m a SDA that has fallen away from our faith. Any prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all….
With all my heart, I trust Ellen Whites writings. At a young age, God led me to her writings and from that time my life has changed.She really encourages us to read the word of God(bible) daily and what amazes me is that she always refers to the Bible in her writings. As we live in this world (vanity city) May we look passed our sorrows and keep are feet on the narrow way and our eyes focused on the cross. Hope we all meet in heaven when the Good Shepherd shall take us home...
Thank you, Sibongile for sharing your thoughts with us. We really appreciate it. Please share to others her writings by promoting this page, whiteestate.org. God bless.
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Praying for you always Ted Wilson and the others in the conference. Please please go to Jesus!!! Many are influenced by you and many will perish because they aren't being taught present truth
Wonderful testimony Elder Wilson. Thank you for your leadership, support in the Spirit of Prophecy and the belief in the messages of the three angels for these last days.
Here are some sources that E.G. White copied and/or paraphrased without giving them credit: 1. The Life and Epistles of the Apostle Paul. The book was written by William J. Coonybeare & John S. Howson, published in 1851-52, first in London and later in New York 2. The History: Old Testament by Alfred Edersheim, published by Erdman's Publishing Company, 1876-87 3. Elisha the Prophet [new edition] by Alfred Eddersheim, published 1882 4. The Life of Christ by William Hanna, published in New York by The American Tract Society in 1863 5. Philosophy of Health: Natural Principles of Health and Cure by Larkin B. Cole published by William D. Ticknor & Co in 18-49-53. 6. The Great teacher by John Harris, published in 1836 by J.S.& C Adams 7. Night Scenes in the Bible by Daniel March, published by Zeigler, McCurdy, Philadelphia, in 1870 8. Life of Christ by Farrar, Frederic W,, published by Dutton, New York in 1877 9. The lief of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, published by Galpin, New Haven in 1844 10. The History of Reformation vol. 4 bk 9 by Merle d;Aubigue, J.H., published by Collins, Glasgow & London in 1841 11. History of Waldenses by Wylie, J.A., published by Petter & Galpin, London,no date. Read The White Lie by Walter Rae to get to the bottom of how much E.G. White plagiarized other people's works. Also, read Desmond Ford's Glecierview manuscript to understand how the teachings of investigative judgment, 1844 and the sanctuary as taught in the Adventist church are unbiblical [These two writers were great Adventist scholars who were defrocked, disfellowship and demoniuzed] There is a lot about E.G. White that is hidden from ordinary church members.
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No matter what people may make critics about Ellen g White and Adventist church we will still remain Seventh day Adventist church till Jesus Christ comes
I am asking God for guidance on this one. I was raised sda. Saturday is Sabbath. Jesus is coming very soon, but I need to know if I can trust the work of EGW before I can read her books. I read the Great Controversy and I see nothing wrong with it. I feel like it lines up with both history and the Bible. The Bible is enough without EGW's writings. I know this to be true, however, if she really was a prophet of God, I do not want to foolishly dismiss her.
Hi, Michael. Thank you for being honest. Ellen White has padded the tests of a true prophet as set forth in the Holy Scriptures. But to be fully convinced of God, leading her life is to read her writings which can be found at egwwritings.org. You can choose any language and start reading. You may also watch the film, "Tell the World " and watch the story of how God had called her. God bless.
Hi, Michael. Ellen White has passed the tests of a true prophet as set forth in the Holy Bible. The best proof of the Holy Spirit's guidance in her life is to read her writings at egwwritings.org. You can also watch the film "Tell the World" and see how God had called her. Thank you and God bless.
Michael you can trust eg writitngs are the true word of God, it has same level of inspiraron as bible scriptures. As you read more and more her writings you will discover that anything that is on her writings is a true blessing. My favorite book is christ object lessons. Blessings
Its was her writings that made me understand the meaning of prophetic scenes in Revelation. Let those with ears hear. Not everyone will understand it UNLESS he/she has the spirit in them.
Ellen White did not understand the book of revelation for example the woman in chapter 12 I believe Ellen White teaches this is the church no it’s the nation of Israel
The question wasn’t whether or not the church became an organization the question was did Jesus tell her to start the church Like he told the apostle Paul
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 “And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:” Acts 2:17 “And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.” Acts 21:8-9
Thank you, Ellen. That was an inspiring comment. Her writings are relevant to our present situation . Please invite others to visit whiteestate.org. God bless.
Hi, John. We appreciate your comment. Thank you for watching this video. Please share with others her writings online on this link, egwwritings.org. God bless.
Yes, what he says about Ellen White is so true, but sad to say, he as a leader, like most of the them, have not spoken or taught the DEEP THINGS to the church. That is why after the 90's there has been a hush in the church preaching about boldly preach the Three Angels Messages. They will speak about the first angel's message, but the second and third has been watered down. I've even read in one adventist magazine, The Spectrum magazine of a so call Dr. preacher who expressed why the catholic should not be seen as the Antichrist, and not to view sunday as the mark of the Antichrist etc... because he says that this was the mind set of the people in the time of Ellen White, now, can you imagine saying something like that in a adventist magazine and people like Ted Wilson and or others never rebuked them for doing so. One thing I can say for sure, the Jesuits have infiltrated the church and are mixing water and toxic substances to seduce others to view truth differently than what it truly is. Wolves in sheep's clothing indeed, so watch out, test all things, everything. There were other lies in the Spectrum magazine that I will not share here and now. So now you know, do not support magazines that spread lies mixed with truth. Very deceptive indeed.
The church, our circle of friends, is no different than the circle of friends during the time of Christ. Jesus preached a message of love with open arms. This attracted all kinds. Even Judas. Jesus didn't kick Judas out of the circle though. He did point out to Judas, in a loving manner, the error of his ways, but Jesus didn't let this stop him from healing the sick and reaching out to the people in need. Showing kindness and telling his stories. He never closed his arms. They always remained open. Even when he knew that the person he was embracing would defy Him in the end.
I will stay away from anyone who life up Jesus and a false prophet in the same sentence. The Holy spirit is the Spirit of Prophecy not Ellen white. The Holy spirit reveals truth and led us to Christ, not Ellen white!!!!
Hi. as stated in the book, Seventh-day Adventists Believe . . . , “The writings of Ellen White are not a substitute for Scripture. They cannot be placed on the same level. The Holy Scriptures stand alone, the unique standard by which her and all other writings must be judged and to which they must be subject” (p. 227).
Thank you, Nick Don . The Bible is the basis of teachings of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Please visit our official page, Adventist.org. God bless.
Amen, praise the lord, brethen as I have often contemplated many of the words found in the Bible and the spirit of prophecy i can say without a doubt that we are blessed, may we never continue to hold the banner of christ Jesus higher and higher each day amen.
We praise the Lord for that wonderful experience, Marlon. We are so happy to know that the word of God gives us an inspiration in this life's journey and to have a personal relationship with God.
Dear Pastor Wilson I feel that God has made you the leader of the Seventh -Day Adventist Church for this time.I also value the writings of Ellen G. White
I have no problem with SDA doctrine with the exception of Ellen White being a prophet. Paul said that that position was for men ONLY: “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:12. But you have her as a founder of the SDA church AND a prophet. I've seen the Bible Flock video about her where he says her writings are NOT scripture. If her writings are not scripture, then she's NOT a prophet. If she IS a prophet, then her writings are as infallible as the Bible. But yet, she says in "The Desire of Ages," chapter 9: "All this displeased His brothers. BEING OLDER THAN JESUS, they felt that He should be under their dictation. They charged Him with thinking Himself superior to them, and reproved Him for setting Himself above their teachers and the priests and rulers of the people. Often they threatened and tried to intimidate Him; but He passed on, making the Scriptures His guide." Jesus was born of a virgin, so He was the FIRST BORN of Mary. Jesus had 4 brothers and at least two sisters, (Matthew 13:55-56), but NONE of them were older than He. I read her five book series starting with Patriarchs and Prophets, and ending with The Great Controversy. That's how I found that quote about her saying Jesus' brothers were older than He was. (And she WASN'T talking about His "Jewish brothers in the faith," but His born of Mary brothers.) Her books were well written and very insightful, but if they're not infallible, she's NOT a prophet. You wouldn't let Paul or Peter get away with something like this and still think THEY were prophets. SDA's quote her writings as if they're quoting scripture, but it's NOT scripture. I assume there are probably some factions of SDA's who do NOT hold that she is a prophet. Uriah Smith's "Daniel and the Revelation" is where I learned SDA theology, and he makes no mention of her. After reading THAT book, IF any SDA member was a prophet, I'd give that title to him, although he wasn't either. He wrote an incredible book which is even more insightful then The Great Controversy.
I went to the Desire of Ages chapter 9 and read what you said above. And it said, “His brothers, as the sons of Joseph were called, sided with the rabbis.. DA 86.1-DA 86.2” I don’t know where it say Jesus’ brothers were older than himself. Also, wasn’t Jospeh much older than Mary? Is it not possible than Joseph was married once before he married Mary?
@@beautifulcarla I already quoted where it said "His brothers" above. IF he was married before, we have NO RECORD OF IT. Yes, it's possible, but now we're just making up stuff.
PASTOR PRESIDENT, SHOULD I BELIVE E.G. WHITRE OR THE BIBLE? There is much in the writings of E.G. White that is unbiblical. Examples: 1. Was the plan of salvation made before or after the fall? E.G. White says AFTER the fall (Great Controversy, p.347) The Bible says BEFORE (Ephesians 1:4:; 1 Peter 1:18) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 2. Was Adam deceived by Satan? E.G. White says YES (Evangelism, p. 598) The Bible says NOPE (1 Timothy 2:14) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 3. Did pre-flood human beings mate with animals to produce amalgamated creatures? E.G. White says YES (Spiritual Gifts Vol. 3,p 64 ) The Bible says NOPE (Genesis 1:24-25- Nowhere in the Bible is it indicated there was amalgamation of human beings and animals before the flood) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 4. Was the tower of Babel built before or after the flood? E.G. White says BEFORE (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 119) The Bible says AFTER (Genesis 11:4) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 4. Who bears human's sins? E.G. White says SATAN (The Great Controversy, p. 422, 485-486) The Bible says JESUS (1 Peter 2:24) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? I have read so much of what EGW wrote and what others in the church and outside have written about her writings. She calls her writings "little light" that lead people to "greater light", the Bible. The truth is her writings are leading me away from the Bible. Should I believe the Bible or clear heresies of E.G. White?
I'm a bricklayer and we were asked to work on the coming Sat. Every one said sure but one man, I was new at the company, so they informed me that he is 7th day Adventist, and they don't work on the Sabbath. I had never considered the subject and was deeply troubled by the possible implications. So that evening I prayed and asked for help with this issue. That prayer was answered with a series of dreams in which I was shown much more than I thought I had asked about. I was shown Adventism represented as a house that the builders stopped working on before the house was completed. The doors and windows and such were never installed. It was made implicitly clear to me that the house afforded no protection! Beloved I was shown the Adventists did not follow "further light" as Sister White warned that they must do. The call to "Come out of Babylon" now ironically applies to Adventists as well. Steeples, Feast Days, Pagan Holy Days, No Baptism in the Holy Spirit, No Restoration of the Names. The "Seven Thunders" are sounding, but only INDIViDUALS can hear.
Hi, Michael. You may want to learn more about us and not just rely on your dreams for your opinion. Please visit our official website at Adventist.org. God bless.
Hi Michael. That's a very interesting dream and comment. I agree with it fully. Thanks for sharing it. "A house that the builders stopped working on before the house was completed......a house that afforded no protection". Wow. That is such an impactful mouthful. Captures my concerns to a Tee.
Hi. Ellen G. White was truly a remarkable woman who, meeting all the tests of a true #prophet as set forth in the Holy Scriptures, helped found the Seventh-day Adventist #church. And through the counsels given through this special messenger, God has blessed us immensely.
the BIBLE says the holy spirit reveals the truth through prophets. Amos 3:7 says "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets". A great deal of the OT was written by prophets who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. 2Pet 1:19-21 Talks about having a sure word of prophecy and that prophecy came not by the will of man but of holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Rev 19:10 says the Testimony of Jesus in the spirit of Prophesy. Act 2:17 says "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Please also remember that even in biblical time there were women who were prophets: Miriam Ex15:20, Deborah Jg 4:4, Isaiahs wife Isa 8:3, Philips 4 daughters Acts 21:9.....Prophecy, as well as preaching and teaching is listed as a gift of the Spirit. Not something only the Spirit can do. You can have all the opinions you like, however the scripture should be your guide and the scripture is very clear that the GIFT of prophecy is given to Gods people.
What tests are you referring to because the one that I know about that God set forth in the book of deuteronomy chapter 18 and 13 she did not meet she failed why don’t you read those chapters
Jesus was many a times praised for teaching with authority. Now His Church teaches with authority, fully utilising God's given authority ( Mt 26:18-19). Doing away with circumcision and the Cannon of the bible being two examples
Yes her visions are what gave her the direction to start the Seventh-day Adventist Church. God specifically told her to have 3 Angels to represent the church. A lot of SDA church’s have lost this vision and have taken down the 3 Angels and replaced it with a flame…a similar symbol to the Sunday churches. This was not what God directed.
@@alexestrada8765 KJV 2 Timothy 2:15 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Hi is this how God talk to prophets in the Bible how did God talk to Ezekiel how did God talk to Jeremiah how did God talk to Moses and how did God talk to Paul? These types of examples are given to us as Christians in the Bible so that we will not follow a false prophet the apostle Paul specifically mention the word angel if an angel comes to you do not believe them
None of God's biblical prophets has ever gotten any prophecy wrong. To get a prophecy wrong, is to say God is liar. God cannot lie. He is not flesh. He is a Spirit(Holy Spirit). Let God be true, and every man(including women-because you also have false prophetess) a liar. The greatest gift of God is Salvation.
So Ellen White was “appointed by God as a special messenger”, maybe you should send that memo to Australian pastors & those in positions of leadership...
Australia - Jorge Munoz and Graham Christian from the AUC and Vic conference - failed to respond to my question “does EGW still speak to us with an authoritative voice?” I could only conclude they don’t believe that she does. So if the leaders such as presidents don’t follow EGW’s counsel, it is no surprise that pastors don’t either.
Hi, Peony. We understand that. Changes may not be instant. Or God’s answers may not come as we expect them. But we know that He is continually working, He hears our prayers. Rest assured that God is still in control. Let’s continue to trust His love and pray for each other. 1 Peter 5:8 says, Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. God bless.
@@orlandoberry4031. Thank you for watching this video. “The writings of Ellen White are not a substitute for Scripture. They cannot be placed on the same level. The Holy Scriptures stand alone, the unique standard by which her and all other writings must be judged and to which they must be subject” (p. 227). Please visit Adventist.org. God bless.
@hkk jr . Thank you for watching this video. All of us are work in progress. The best thing to do is pray for each other and support each other for in 1 Peter 5:8 says, Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Be blessed.
@@AdventistOrgChurch - if EGW does not ‘speak to us with an authoritative voice’, then change the fundamental beliefs. If she does, then follow her council. .
There are good things The Adventist church has to offer the world. Just have 2 main issues with their teachings: 1 -EGW as infallible interpreter of the scriptures and prophet. 2 - the 2,300 years 1844 (investigative judgment) doctrine. The Roman church has apologized for the atrocities and bigotry of the past yet the Adventist church has never claimed it has errored. Desmond Ford was defrocked of his position because he had a different point of view of Daniel8:14 and Hebrews 9 (Glacier View 1980)
There is no such thing as investigative judgement. That is not biblical no scripture supports that judgement has started. She preached many false doctrines and contradicts herself on many occassion time after time like that of a confused person c
@@ajaunhoustonsparents6247 Read Eccl. 12:14, 2 Cor. 5:10, and then read Rom. 4:25 which said "Christ was offered to die for our sins, and He rose to make us Right with God"-and that "make us right with God" is Perfectly set forth in biblical view of Christ's high priestly ministry for us in the heavenly sanctuary , in which the investigative judgement plays a Major part when the High Priest goes into the Most Holy Place in the Day of Atonement, as Paul clarified that all the types and services of the earthly sanctuary were but shadows and symbols of what Christ (as our Great High Priest) is doing for us in the heavenly sanctuary.... Now, Read Daniel 7 as to what happens in the investigative judgement, and Daniel 8:14 as to When that judgement starts ....thus, You Sir, are Openly Contradicting the bible and blatantly maligning God's Prophet/Messenger whom He sent to clarify these Very truths of the bible to His people! Don't let this sin stand against you in the judgement, because make no mistake, your name will be brought up in that judgement and if you are deliberately holding onto this sin, you will be held accountable...
Wonderful family testimony. Thank God Ellen G White, lifted up Jesus and not herself. God bless you and I pray He continues to lead and keep you as you lead this worldwide church.
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I'm a former Adventist minister. E.G. White lifted a lot from the writers of her time without giving them credit. I investigated her sources since I was a student at an Adventist university until I became a pastor and came to the conclusion that she paraphrased other people's writings and made them her own! When Drs. Desmond Ford and Walter Rae confronted the church about it in 1980, they were defrocked and demonized. Now the church says the plagiarism was done by her editorial assistants! The denomination believes EGW is the end-time prophet whose theological concepts should not be scrutinized biblically. Many Adventists believe EG White is the latter-day prophet whose work should not be subjected to the Bible scrutiny. That is why Adventists regard themselves as a remnant and all other Christian denominations are apostates! Read Desire of Ages and Great Controversy, for instance, and compare them side by side with their sources and you will be shocked! I was shocked by how much she copied from the past and her contemporary writers!! Adventists, why do you allow your church leadership to mislead you?
so having a lawyer who specialises in copyright infringement give EGW the ok is not enough for u?the church went through the wringer because of walter reas book,they did the right thing and employed the right people to validitate those claims from Walter rea,She passed the test,why dont you make a video showing the findings you have made or show some links to the book your referring to and while your at it why dont you state what denomination your in now,give me a chance to fire back with the claim your church is misleading you
@@sliew9120 You need to face up to the facts. EGW was dishonest and fraudulent. James White was complicit also. This has been proven conclusively by many scholars.
@@sliew9120 See on U tube "Christian Scholars Forum" where all things SDA are discussed. Also "Former Adventist Fellowship" have some interesting revelations re: EG and James White.
@@alongcamejones309 so does that mean your lazy and just cant be bothered to show me where the plagarism is happening?Christian scholars,yes i went and had a look,the fact that they dismiss the law as being obselete tells me also the angle from which you come,at the end of the day scripture has the final say in interpretation, something the Christian scholars has failed at,in doing away with the law they also remove that which identifys your sin and condemns you and puts you under the death penalty, Answer me this if there is no law to condemn you,then how can you be under the death penalty?if there is no death penalty how can you be saved by grace if no law condemns you?, If there is no need of grace then why was the Son of God crucified for your sins? if the commandments were to be removed why would God kill his only Son for you? is God stupid?
Interesting statement. There were prophets in the bible. The BIBLE says, they were inspired of God. The BIBLE also says that one of the gifts of the Spirit given to man is the gift of Prophecy as well as teaching and preaching. The BIBLE says that in the end times your sons and daughters will prophesy and you old men will dream dreams...... Rev 19:10 says the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy and Rev 12:17 Says The dragon (satan) was wroth with the woman (church) and went to make war with the remnant of her seed who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony (spirit of prophecy) of Jesus...
CBDYNA, I hope you aren't being influenced by "Shelly Stone", who is as biased and untruthful as one can probably get about Sister White! Here's one response I made to her false allegations : "You are taking her writings out of context and applying your OWN ideas and interpretations to them. People should be encouraged to find out for themselves directly from her writings, which are easily found even online. The Great Controversy was finalised in 1911 and that is the one people need to read regarding prophecies fulfilling today. After that, yes, people with an agenda to change our teachings entered the GC church, as they've done with ALL denominations. This is part of the 'Great Reset'/NWO agenda - but her original writings are totally correct and trustworthy. I personally resent your dishonest and biased attempts to make out Ellen White's writings are in any way incorrect or untruthful. It's so easy, isn't it, to just say she 'was a false prophet' but you have NO evidence - just biased arguments. Hardly scholarly research!
@@goldenautumn3073 Hi Golden. I don't read Ellen much yet, but still do not doubt she was inspired. The one problem I do have with SDA (And I love Walter Veith) is that he says USA is the second beast of Revelation 13. Hear me out here, ok?............Revelation 13:11 starts the description of the Earth Beast and the concluding verse Rev 13:18 states clearly its the pope(s), so I disagree with him and SDA in general that USA is the Earth Beast. Daniel tells us Rome is the last ruling Kingdom too, so, again, SDA are wrong here. And it is confusing too since SDA are the only ones really calling out the False Profit / Antichrist. So besides that major error, I think SDA are about as close to the word as you can get. And agree, theres corruption in every Religion, its why I came out of her as instructed in the first place and do not attend any Church today.
No the Bible does not tell us that we sleep it doesn’t say anything about sleeping until Jesus returns when the Bible uses the term falling asleep that just simply means dead your body is dead so where is your spirit well ecclesiastics tells you that the breath goes back to God who gave it but your spirit does not need to breathe so where does your spirit go well in the Bible in the Old Testament and what the Jewish people believed and still believe is that the spirit went to Abraham‘s bosom a holding place for spirits in the Old Testament. Now after Jesus came and died and he descended and set the captives free in first Peter 318 through 21 it clearly says that Jesus went and preach to the spirits SPIRITS in prison these are not people these are spirits who are in Abraham’s bosom and he took them to heaven with him There is no more Abraham’s bosom a holding place for spirits that’s where the Catholic Church twisted that and they’ve got the term Purgatory Catholics are not Christians and Christians are not Catholics Christians believe that Jesus emptied out Abrahams bosom and through his blood and his salvation now when we die we go directly our spirit as a living spirit goes to Jesus and God we do not sleep However the Bible does teach that there are people spirits that sleep they sleep? To sleep means death in the Bible in the Old Testament and death to the Jews meant separation from God so when a person dies now if they sleep that means they are unsaved and separated from God in the Bible teaches that that spirit is in hell for all eternity
@@shellystone3211 Daniel 12:2 King James Version 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Hi God bless. I’m going to try to explain this to you biblically and in accordance with Jewish beliefs which is who the old testament was written for The word sheol is used in the Old Testament It has 2Hebrew meanings the grave and Abraham’s bosom…a holding place for spirits depending on the context of how it was used example Jacob said I will go down to Sheol to See my son when he thought Joseph was dead……? Why would Jacob believe that he would see his son when he went simply to the grave? he didn’t he believed he was going to Sheol a holding place for the good spirits…..It doesnt what your church taught you-what the Jewish people believed is what Jesus And the apostles in the early church believed and Christian’s today book of Daniel when the prophecies given to Daniel when those who sleep in dust will live they will arise some to everlasting eternity and some to contempt and some to everlasting punishment….3 things had to happen, eternity, punishment, contempt Has this prophecy already fulfilled yes Christians believe this was fulfilled. First Hebrew meaning of sleep? To be separated from God. Not to physically sleep Eternity: when the Messiah came died he descended he took the spirits out of prison to heaven out of Abrahams person as stated in first Peter 318 through 21 Contempt: the Bible clearly tells you that there were 500 dead people who rose out of the graves in Jerusalem and walked back into Jerusalem to the city these people were resurrected why? They were the witnesses to the Pharisees and the Jews about how they had not been keeping God’s laws Everlasting punishment: The spirits who were judged at that time when the Messiah died and rose again were judged and condemed to hell This is a lot to think about as a Seventh-day Adventist…. because these are things that you were never taught these are things that the early Christian church believed and that our Christian churches today believe this is what sets us apart from Catholics, Jehovah witnesses Islam Mormons and you Seventh-day Adventist who all call yourself Christians but do not believe the Christian doctrine or the Christian beliefs from the first century Church Jesus, Mary and Martha when Lazarus died…this might clear it up for you…. Mary says Lord my brother would not have died if you had been here…..Jesus says your brother will live again…..Mary says yay Lord I know he will live in the Resurrection…..Jesus says Mary IAM the resurrection…(present use not future) those who believe in me will never die they will be passed from death to life This means you do not sleep and wait to be resurrected this means that you are resurrected at death. Thessalonians 416 --read also read the few verses just above that where it clearly states that when Jesus comes for his church those who are alive he Will bring those who have died already with him. As a seven stamping test that should be very confusing to you why would he bring those who have already died with him when he comes to get those who are alive? This is what we call the rapture which the first century church believed in. Jesus appears in clouds Brings spirits of those who died already Raises their dead bodies (reunites spirit/body) changes to glorified bodies Then catches up those alive also changing their bodies glorified like his No where in this verse doesn’t say Jesus’s feet touch the ground nor does it tell you that the people that are taken up alive are on this earth so where are they? This is what Christians believe we are in heaven for the seven years during the tribulation having the marriage supper of the Lamb with Jesus we believe the book of revelation is in perfect chronological order and then in chapter 19 where it says Jesus returns to the earth with his army dressed in white linen hey that’s the church who just received their white linen in the verses above at the marriage supper we were term with Jesus and he sets up his millennial physical kingdom on this earth for 1000 years Christians believe again very different doctrine then what Ellen White taught Mohammed taught Charles is Russell from Jehovah witnesses and Joseph Smith for Mormons.
The apostle Paul tells us that in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. And Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream had the stone without hands destroying the entire statue. That stone was representative of the Lord's power to do this without man's initiative. Your faith in God's power through prophets is admirable, but that power did not happen through Ellen White, but through a prophet called and ordained to act in God's name. Why do you think power comes without authority? Ellen White had no priesthood. She didn't have any witnesses other than herself. I've read Ellen White's visions and I find them superfluous, very much like a fabricated near death experience someone hopes to make money from. For example, Jesus swinging open the pearly gates with his mighty arm! None of what she saw in THE GREAT CONTROVERSY was very impressive. I looked for depth as it pertained in the battle of Armageddon, and only found the finger pointed at the Papacy, the favorite whipping boy of the protestant movement. Instead, Ezekiel points his finger at the Muslims (Ezekiel 38:5-6,38-39; Zechariah 12-14). The Papacy has no military might, but the Muslims do. I compared Mrs. White's visions to Joseph Smith's revelations and found the latter to be much more sophisticated and impressive. In fact, I've read most everything he and later prophets of his day wrote. You can choose as you wish, but if you check out D&C 45, 76 and 121, I'd like to see anything Mrs.White said to be anything nearly as impressive.
John Roberts..."the Papacy, the favorite whipping boy of the protestant movement. Instead, Ezekiel points his finger at the Muslims (Ezekiel 38:5-6,38-39; Zechariah 12-14). The Papacy has no military might"... U do not have to read the GC or The Bible to know that The Papacy is a cruei, brutal regime who received its seat and power from Satan himself. They do not beleve that they are accountable to anyone. And I believe that those who embrace the Papacy are complicit in the rape, and murder of millions, including their very own Nuns(Keys of his blood). It is b/c of people like u that the Papacy has regained its power and not been brought to account for their deeds. ....and The Papacy has always had military might. Ever heard of the "Crusades", inappropriately named, "Christian Crusades" whereas they need to be known as Roman Catholic Crusades. The Papacy has its own Kingdom. The "Captain General" is head of its Jesuit order. Wakey John. Jesus is coming soon.
Oh boy. Look at this guy. The Papacy has been the First Beast in Revelation 13 for the last 1500 years and created the Islamic faith. Yes, The Vatican created the religion the Muslims follow. Muslims are nothing but Catholics. Most don't know it though. It is why there is a book about Mary in the Koran and if that is not enough association for you, look this up- Every single place you find a mosque in the Middle East, you will also find a Catholic Church or Cathedral close by. And finally, look at the symbolism. Both the Catholics and Islamic faith sport crescent moons.
I love you my Pastor Wilson. I am praying for you even at this time as you lead God's people. Let Jesus be your Best of friends. God loves you more. Be faithful. Let no one take your crown.
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Mathew 13:33 For those who slumber Who is our Sabbath Rest? Hebrews 3 and 4….will you be lost in the wilderness of wandering where you are here and now? Galatians 3… Hebrews 10:10 Galatians 2:21 Jeremiah 3:16 Jeremiah 3:8 2 Corinthians 3:6-18 Galatians 2:11-21 Colossians 2:16
Pastor, since I have decided to start reading Spirit of prophecy literature, will you please availl me with the recommended reading plan for the books? Like which book to start with?.
Hi, Rosaria. Thank you for watching this video. You can start with Step to Christ, Then the Conflict of the Ages Series. You can also download this on egwwritings.org. God bless.
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Not sure if this is correct. So Ellen books should be a must when reading the Bible, so the Bible is not worth it if you don't apply Ellen G Whites book next to the Bible when reading?
@Blaster Master Yes I agree with you and also that it looks like they made the excuse of their wrong prediction and then came up with the sanctuary doctrine to cover up.
@Blaster Master Wow thank you! You gave me some more research topics. And when did you realize that there was a problem? And were they very strict on their believes and were there any punishment involved as a kid?
Hi, Kobusfoon can foon. Thank you for watching this video. As stated in the book, Seventh-day Adventists Believe . . . , “The writings of Ellen White are not a substitute for Scripture. They cannot be placed on the same level. The Holy Scriptures stand alone, the unique standard by which she and all other writings must be judged and to which they must be subject” (p. 227). God bless.
So the writings of EWG did a great impression over your familly? It seems it wasn't so much a revelation for your father: Ted's father was Neil C. Wilson, who as the GC vice president when he made this statement under oath in a court hearing: "Although it is true that there was a period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the denomination took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint, and the term ‘hierarchy’ was used in a pejorative sense to refer to the papal form of church governance, that attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a manifestation of widespread anti-popery among conservative Protestant denominations in the early part of this century and the latter part of the last, and which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap so far as the Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned." EEOC vs PPPA and GC, Civil Case #74-2025 CBR (1975). It seems to me that jesuitism run deep in your familly! Looking at you ecuminism, it is still alive a well.
Hi, Babylone Tombe. Thank you for being here with us. The best way to know EGW is by watching the movie " Tell the World". You may also want to visit this, whiteestate.org. God bless.
You don't know what you're missing.. Pray enerstly for the Holy Spirit when ever you want to study God's word.. Ellen White went through the tests prescribed in the Bible for a prophet.. Time is running out.. Don't waste it arguing but go to her writings.. Especially the book The Great Controversy ( most of the content is about Mat 24) May God richly bless you as you study His word
@@AdventistOrgChurch "If it is not against God's words then it is from God." - I strongly agree! ... a new member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church here in the Philippines, who has been enlightened by God's grace, to remember and keep the Lord's Sabbath Day Holy, ... formerly a member of an Evangelical Methodist Church in the Philippines ... glory to God forevermore ... Amen! Amen!
No that is not how you test a prophet. A prophet is someone who claims to speak for God, ie the Lord God said……being shown stuff by angels, is not a prophet. This is the Christian definition of a prophet and there is a profits test in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 and 13.
Tedward, what do you mean by "meeting all the tests of a true prophet as set forth in the holy scriptures"? There is only ONE such test, Deut 18:22 and Ellen White failed it miserably! Her false prophecies are many and well documented. You referred to the INSPIRED writings of Ellen White. How can they be inspired yet not on the same level as the inspired scriptures? That is logically absurd! Does the Holy Spirit inspire mistakes?? I am mot an sda but have read enough of her writings to know that Ellen White constantly contradicted both the Bible and herself! Should we blame the Holy Spirit for that?
Thankyou, but God opened my eyes in 1980. In 1985 I met an sda lady and over the last 39 years we have on and off, debated adventism Vs Biblical Christianity. At present we have been discussing, (arguing?) The matter continually for 13 years! I think I am reasonably knowledgeable about adventism having studied it in some detail, but my conviction that adventism is a highly dangerous cult has only grown stronger as a result of my study!
There are also what might be called physical and spiritual tests of the prophet of God. In these paragraphs those of a more physical nature will be considered. Looking through the records of the past, and especially the writings of the Bible prophets concerning the work and experience of God's holy servants, we find here and there certain characteristics of the prophet of the Lord when in vision. We have already observed that some of these messengers of the Most High had such visions in the public assembly or in their own homes while others were around them, but there are other distinguishing marks that we shall notice. When a prophet actually goes into vision, and while he is in vision, the following features should be observed: 1. He Loses All His Natural StrengthBSPC 133Daniel's testimony concerning this particular feature of his experience is given in the following expressions: "There remained no strength in me." Daniel 10:8. "1 retained no strength." Verse 8. "I have retained no strength." Verse 16. "There remained no strength in me." Verse 17. Having been deprived of his strength, Daniel would naturally fall, perhaps gently, to the ground. This is evidently what happened, for in verse 9 we find him "in a deep sleep" with his "face toward the ground." Then, he said, an angelic "hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands." Verse 10. The margin of the Revised translation gives the wording, "He set me tottering upon my knees." This condition characterized Balaam also, for we read in entering a vision that he "saw the vision of the Almighty, falling." Numbers 24:4. The text in the Authorized Version reads "falling into a trance," but it will be observed that the words "in a trance" are supplied and hence not in the original text. The thought is that of actually falling to the ground, and it is expressed by Rotherham as he "falls down"; Goodspeed as "prostrate"; the Douay as "falls." The same thing happened to Saul, afterward called Paul, in the vision on the road to Damascus. Though the record does not say he fell to the earth, it does say that "Saul arose from the earth." (Acts 9:8.) A good statement concerning this physical condition as found in one of the Jewish writings is as follows: "All the time when they had the prophetic experience, their limbs trembled, their physical strength failed them, their thoughts became confused; and the mind was left free to comprehend the vision it saw."-MAIMONIDES, The Mishneh Torah (known as the Yad Hachazakah), Book I. Edited and translated by Moses Hyamson (New York: Bloch, 1937), p. 42b. 2. He Is Supernaturally StrengthenedBSPC 133In Daniel's further testimony as to what happened to him in vision, he tells us what the angel did after he lost his natural strength: "He strengthened me." Daniel 10:18. "I was strengthened." Verse 19. "Thou has strengthened me." Verse 19. "Be strong, yea, be strong." Verse 19. In making His servants the prophets fit channels for the transmission of the divine message, God deprives them of everything that might indicate human strength and power; then He Himself empowers them with His own strength, and so the more effectively can He use them as He desires. 3. He Has His Eyes OpenBSPC 134This is expressed twice in recording the experience of the prophet Balaam: "Whose eyes are open." Numbers 24:1 "Having his eyes open." Verse 4. This undoubtedly refers to the spiritual as well as the physical sight; both are open. 4. He Does Not BreatheBSPC 134This is an unusual physical characteristic of the prophet, and Daniel in his prophecy referred to this when he said, "Neither is there breath left in me." Daniel 10:17. It seems that there can be very little dispute as to the wording of this text, for practically all the translations agree with the thought expressed in the foregoing text. The Douay Version gives, "moreover my breath is stopped." We are here face to face with a remarkable phenomenon, that of a man speaking and moving as the prophet did in vision, and yet with no breath in his body. We need not, however, be surprised at this; for after all, God can just as well keep a man alive without breathing as He could with breathing. This was one of the miracles wrought when the prophets of God had these "open" visions. So different were the prophets of God from the false prophets of their day. The impostors might go into a trance and be possessed of evil spirits, but the prophet of the Lord, when in vision, was a constant miracle of the wonder-working power of the mighty God of Israel. And as such he was possessed of the Divine Spirit speaking the message of God in and through him. 5. He Speaks Without BreathingBSPC 134This is listed here in this connection, but the matter has already been dealt with in the foregoing paragraph. 6. His Tongue Is Controlled by the LordBSPC 134Because the Lord has strengthened the prophet and empowered him with His own Spirit, naturally it is God who speaks through him. David declared, "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, and his word was in my tongue." 2 Samuel 23:2. In the light of this consideration the expression in 2 Timothy has particular force and cogency. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God." 2 Timothy 3:16. Rotherham renders this, "Every Scripture is God-breathed." How significant! The prophet loses all natural strength; he is supernaturally strengthened. He ceases to breathe, yet God breathes through him. So the messages that come are "God-breathed." God takes the human vehicle and through him breathes his own message to men. 7. He Is Unconscious of His SurroundingsBSPC 135One might conclude that the prophet, in ecstatic vision, would be unconscious of his surroundings. Notice how the apostle Paul describes his own condition when in vision: "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body I cannot tell: God knows;) how that he was caught up into paradise." 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. As to the manifestation of these characteristics in the experience of Mrs. E. G. White in her earlier visions, note the following testimonies. One of the most comprehensive descriptions of her in vision is that given by James White, in 1868: "Her condition in vision may be described as follows: "1. She is utterly unconscious of everything transpiring around her, as has been proved by the most rigid tests, but views herself as removed from this world, and in the presence of heavenly beings. "2. She does not breathe. During the entire period of her continuance in vision, which has at different times ranged from fifteen minutes to three hours, there is no breath, as has been repeatedly proved by pressing upon the chest, and by closing the mouth and nostrils. "3. Immediately on entering vision, her muscles become rigid, and joints fixed, so far as any external force can influence them. At the same time her movements and gestures, which are frequent, are free and graceful, and cannot be hindered nor controlled by the strongest person. "4. On coming out of vision, whether in the day-time or a well lighted room at night, all is total darkness. Her power to distinguish even the most brilliant objects, held within a few inches of the eyes, returns but gradually, sometimes not being fully established for three hours. This has continued for the past twenty years; yet her eyesight is not in the least impaired, few persons having better than she now possesses. "She has probably had, during the past twenty-three years, between one and two hundred visions. These have been given under almost every variety of circumstance, yet maintaining a wonderful similarity; the most apparent change being, that of late years they have grown less frequent, but more comprehensive. She has been taken off in vision most frequently when bowed in prayer. Several times, while earnestly addressing the congregation, unexpectedly to herself and to all around her, she has been instantly prostrated in vision."-James White, Life Incidents in Connection With the Great Advent Movement, pp. 272, 273. F. M. Wilcox has well expressed the matter as follows: "The physical manifestations in many of her visions correspond to the experience of the prophets of old. We refer to the physical manifestations under which many of these visions were given, similar to the experience of Daniel and other prophets of the Old Testament. "We do not, however, regard these physical manifestations as the principal convincing evidences of the divine call to Mrs. White. Rather, they constitute subsidiary or contributing evidences. The great proof of her call to divine ministry was shown in the answer of her work to prophetic prediction; in the spirit which characterized her ministry throughout the years. In the correspondence of her teachings to those of the Bible. In the marked manner in which she was used of God to save His church in many crises. And by the fruit her ministry bore through all the years of her earthly life and which is still appearing as a result of her labors."-The Review and Herald, January 19, 1950. BSPC 132.6 - BSPC 136.4
@rowanflynn462 Some of the Physical Tests of a Prophet There are also what might be called physical and spiritual tests of the prophet of God. In these paragraphs those of a more physical nature will be considered. Looking through the records of the past, and especially the writings of the Bible prophets concerning the work and experience of God's holy servants, we find here and there certain characteristics of the prophet of the Lord when in vision. We have already observed that some of these messengers of the Most High had such visions in the public assembly or in their own homes while others were around them, but there are other distinguishing marks that we shall notice. When a prophet actually goes into vision, and while he is in vision, the following features should be observed: 1. He Loses All His Natural StrengthBSPC 133Daniel's testimony concerning this particular feature of his experience is given in the following expressions: "There remained no strength in me." Daniel 10:8. "1 retained no strength." Verse 8. "I have retained no strength." Verse 16. "There remained no strength in me." Verse 17. Having been deprived of his strength, Daniel would naturally fall, perhaps gently, to the ground. This is evidently what happened, for in verse 9 we find him "in a deep sleep" with his "face toward the ground." Then, he said, an angelic "hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands." Verse 10. The margin of the Revised translation gives the wording, "He set me tottering upon my knees." This condition characterized Balaam also, for we read in entering a vision that he "saw the vision of the Almighty, falling." Numbers 24:4. The text in the Authorized Version reads "falling into a trance," but it will be observed that the words "in a trance" are supplied and hence not in the original text. The thought is that of actually falling to the ground, and it is expressed by Rotherham as he "falls down"; Goodspeed as "prostrate"; the Douay as "falls." The same thing happened to Saul, afterward called Paul, in the vision on the road to Damascus. Though the record does not say he fell to the earth, it does say that "Saul arose from the earth." (Acts 9:8.) A good statement concerning this physical condition as found in one of the Jewish writings is as follows: "All the time when they had the prophetic experience, their limbs trembled, their physical strength failed them, their thoughts became confused; and the mind was left free to comprehend the vision it saw."-MAIMONIDES, The Mishneh Torah (known as the Yad Hachazakah), Book I. Edited and translated by Moses Hyamson (New York: Bloch, 1937), p. 42b. 2. He Is Supernaturally StrengthenedBSPC 133In Daniel's further testimony as to what happened to him in vision, he tells us what the angel did after he lost his natural strength: "He strengthened me." Daniel 10:18. "I was strengthened." Verse 19. "Thou has strengthened me." Verse 19. "Be strong, yea, be strong." Verse 19. In making His servants the prophets fit channels for the transmission of the divine message, God deprives them of everything that might indicate human strength and power; then He Himself empowers them with His own strength, and so the more effectively can He use them as He desires. 3. He Has His Eyes OpenBSPC 134This is expressed twice in recording the experience of the prophet Balaam: "Whose eyes are open." Numbers 24:1 "Having his eyes open." Verse 4. This undoubtedly refers to the spiritual as well as the physical sight; both are open. 4. He Does Not BreatheBSPC 134This is an unusual physical characteristic of the prophet, and Daniel in his prophecy referred to this when he said, "Neither is there breath left in me." Daniel 10:17. It seems that there can be very little dispute as to the wording of this text, for practically all the translations agree with the thought expressed in the foregoing text. The Douay Version gives, "moreover my breath is stopped." We are here face to face with a remarkable phenomenon, that of a man speaking and moving as the prophet did in vision, and yet with no breath in his body. We need not, however, be surprised at this; for after all, God can just as well keep a man alive without breathing as He could with breathing. This was one of the miracles wrought when the prophets of God had these "open" visions. So different were the prophets of God from the false prophets of their day. The impostors might go into a trance and be possessed of evil spirits, but the prophet of the Lord, when in vision, was a constant miracle of the wonder-working power of the mighty God of Israel. And as such he was possessed of the Divine Spirit speaking the message of God in and through him. 5. He Speaks Without BreathingBSPC 134This is listed here in this connection, but the matter has already been dealt with in the foregoing paragraph. 6. His Tongue Is Controlled by the LordBSPC 134Because the Lord has strengthened the prophet and empowered him with His own Spirit, naturally it is God who speaks through him. David declared, "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, and his word was in my tongue." 2 Samuel 23:2. In the light of this consideration the expression in 2 Timothy has particular force and cogency. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God." 2 Timothy 3:16. Rotherham renders this, "Every Scripture is God-breathed." How significant! The prophet loses all natural strength; he is supernaturally strengthened. He ceases to breathe, yet God breathes through him. So the messages that come are "God-breathed." God takes the human vehicle and through him breathes his own message to men. 7. He Is Unconscious of His SurroundingsBSPC 135One might conclude that the prophet, in ecstatic vision, would be unconscious of his surroundings. Notice how the apostle Paul describes his own condition when in vision: "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body I cannot tell: God knows;) how that he was caught up into paradise." 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. As to the manifestation of these characteristics in the experience of Mrs. E. G. White in her earlier visions, note the following testimonies. One of the most comprehensive descriptions of her in vision is that given by James White, in 1868: "Her condition in vision may be described as follows: "1. She is utterly unconscious of everything transpiring around her, as has been proved by the most rigid tests, but views herself as removed from this world, and in the presence of heavenly beings. "2. She does not breathe. During the entire period of her continuance in vision, which has at different times ranged from fifteen minutes to three hours, there is no breath, as has been repeatedly proved by pressing upon the chest, and by closing the mouth and nostrils. "3. Immediately on entering vision, her muscles become rigid, and joints fixed, so far as any external force can influence them. At the same time her movements and gestures, which are frequent, are free and graceful, and cannot be hindered nor controlled by the strongest person. "4. On coming out of vision, whether in the day-time or a well lighted room at night, all is total darkness. Her power to distinguish even the most brilliant objects, held within a few inches of the eyes, returns but gradually, sometimes not being fully established for three hours. This has continued for the past twenty years; yet her eyesight is not in the least impaired, few persons having better than she now possesses. "She has probably had, during the past twenty-three years, between one and two hundred visions. These have been given under almost every variety of circumstance, yet maintaining a wonderful similarity; the most apparent change being, that of late years they have grown less frequent, but more comprehensive. She has been taken off in vision most frequently when bowed in prayer. Several times, while earnestly addressing the congregation, unexpectedly to herself and to all around her, she has been instantly prostrated in vision."-James White, Life Incidents in Connection With the Great Advent Movement, pp. 272, 273. F. M. Wilcox has well expressed the matter as follows: "The physical manifestations in many of her visions correspond to the experience of the prophets of old. We refer to the physical manifestations under which many of these visions were given, similar to the experience of Daniel and other prophets of the Old Testament. "We do not, however, regard these physical manifestations as the principal convincing evidences of the divine call to Mrs. White. Rather, they constitute subsidiary or contributing evidences. The great proof of her call to divine ministry was shown in the answer of her work to prophetic prediction; in the spirit which characterized her ministry throughout the years. In the correspondence of her teachings to those of the Bible. In the marked manner in which she was used of God to save His church in many crises. And by the fruit her ministry bore through all the years of her earthly life and which is still appearing as a result of her labors."-The Review and Herald, January 19, 1950. BSPC 132.6 - BSPC 136.4
I say this with all due respect He reminds me of the church leaders in the time of jesus Who would say they believe the scriptures and the prophets But they crucified the messiah Ted Wilson promised he was going to give out the great controversy Instead he crucified the book And gave out the Gray hooks Please pray for the leader of the SDA church that he may be converted And pray for me to God bless
nowhere in the Bible does it say that Michael the archangel is the first angel. secondly all of those points you made I know what his name means in Hebrew that means he has the might of God he is the arc angel of war he is a warrior angel so nobody can stand against him other angels can’t fight against him because it would be as if they were fighting against God,,,,that has nothing to do with Jesus that does not prove your point. Jesus is not Michael the archangel let me tell you who Jesus was before he was born, his name was the word of God so you have the father then you have his word his voice and then you have the Holy Spirit and you can see all 3 of them there in Genesis 1 God is there his word his voice creates and you have the Holy Spirit that’s why the Bible says that all things were created by Jesus Christ he was a part of God before he was first as a man. 1 minute ago
@@shellystone3211 first i don't believe that Jesus was created and he is not and angel he is the chief of angels that's why he is called the lord of hosts Michael the archangel is a title given to jesus by the father he has many titles Example Isaiah 9:6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. If you carefully study this vers it should answer all your questions This phrase and the government shall be upon his shoulder: It means he has the Predominates Isaiah 9:7 KJV - Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the "LORD of hosts "will perform this . Who is the lord of hosts? There is many other verses I can show you if you want But will see if we can agree in this point God bless
Before we proceed with the rest of your post Let me get some clarification from you? Is Michael an angelic being or not? If not where did he originate from?
Galatians 1:8 “But though we, or an Angel from heauen, preach any other Gospel vnto you, then that which wee haue preached vnto you, let him be accursed.” King James Version (1611)
I have a similar story with my great-grandfather. Zimri Moon and his family had a farm in Minnesota. The Adventists rented the farm to hold a campmeeting. It rained all week. Then on Sunday, the sun came out. A little lady went to the farm house and asked if the Quaker family would be offended if they put their laundry out to dry.
That simple courtesy piqued the interest of the Moon Family. They started attending the meetings and were baptized. That little lady was Ellen White.
Zimri's brother became a minister and was mentioned several times in Mrs. White's writings as 'Brother Moon'.
I have the same emotional thoughts as you describe to think that God lead the Adventist to their farm and Mrs. White to talk to them.
Amazing. Thank you for sharing that story, Tracking God. Your great-grandfather was lucky to have met her. Let's share her writings by inviting others to egwwritings.org. God bless.
Wow my brother's This is a 7th Day Adventist and he thinks ,Ellen white is a God.
@@barid302 SDA doesn't consider the Lord's messenger to be God, she was a prophet.
Not to create an argument but if the Lord's messenger said that our schools should not be acredited , why did we disregard this important warning? She also said not to join the world's conventional medicine system, but just the same we ignored that important message. How can we grow in faith if we disregard such important message ?
How do you get from 457 BC in the spring of the year. To the fall of the year of 1844. October 22nd. It's impossible! Your true prophet says that is the true date.. Jesus said a true prophet never lies!
@@JamieElison no 0 year. It goes 1 BC and next is 1 AD
But, it was William Miller’s timeline and he was Baptist, not SDA. The SDA church was not formed until 1863. The 1844 movement was called the Millerite Movement. Ellen White was 17 years old in 1844 and was a Methodist, not SDA.
The prophecy about the date wrong at first seemed the date was tarrying, but then they waited and figured out the right date when they realized no 0 year.
Habakkuk 2:3
For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry
Verse 2 is the instruction to write the chart out, thus why Miller made the chart.
2 And the Lord answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
@@JamieElison Millerism
Christian movement founded by William Miller, which held that the Second Coming would come in 1844
This article is about followers of William Miller. For the mineral, see Millerite.
The Millerites were the followers of the teachings of William Miller, who in 1831 first shared publicly his belief that the Second Advent of Jesus Christ would occur in roughly the year 1843-1844. Coming during the Second Great Awakening, his teachings were spread widely and grew in popularity, which led to the event known as the Great Disappointment.
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@@JamieElison Eduard Sutherland talked about how the Greeks deceived Israel by telling them that they didn't have to change their religion, they also said to them just come and study at our universities. Well Israelites went to the Greek universities and got their brain transplant.
The Millerites kept Sunday as a day of rest.
I have been blessed by the writings of Ellen G White.
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i grew up SDA, and i figured my pastor and famliy couldn't possibly be wrong. however once i started actually testing her as a prophet. she doesn't even come close to passing. she has a bunch of prophecy that never came true. and everyone just looks the other way. she communicated with the dead. and said it was from God.
i am currently leaving the church. God is Good and i am very thankful that God should me this before it was to late.
Thank God you saw the light. My barber is s seven day Adventist. I share with him the truth but he wants his truth. This seven day Adventist religion is nothing but a cult.
Why are you'll so quick to leave the sabbath keeping church? Jesus walked with judas knowing he would betray him .brethren let us stop making excuses and look to Jesus because you will find issues in every religion and it's members
@@deborahfrancois714 because the bible warns us to come out of babylon ( false teaching) for if we don't then we will be partakers.
i still keep the sabbath and worship with them. because i believe fellowship is important. however i will never be a part of the church again. because i cant be a part of false teachings
also they are not the only sabbath keeping church out there.
@@truthseeker4273 And what false teachngs are they?
@@jeanelizabethterry7583 the investigative judgement for one. believing and following a false prophet. the health message being a salvation doctrine, just to name a few
The writings of ellen white helped me to understand the bible more and to see the changes i needed to make as pertaining to my diet ,dress,finance and many more .i love God even more when i read the bible and her writings.
I became a sda through her books.
@@c19commander44 get out of the seventh-day Adventist church have a bonfire with Ellen g White's books and ask Jesus to come into your life
@@carlisledick9172 - HA HA
what a joke.
I joined the sda through the books of EW.
EW writing let me to JESUS and the BIBLE.
So when people like you attack EW OR THE SDA CHURCH. it dont shake my faith a bit.
People like have never read a page of EW books.
Get the real and get a personal relationship with Lord Jesus Jesus will you please give this man at Damascus road experience
@@carlisledick9172 - I got the real JESUS,the TRUE JESUS.
Ellen G. White's inspired writings are truly a huge blessing to God's end time people. What a gift from God! All honor and glory to Jesus Christ, our Desire of Ages. 😇🙌🏾
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Hi, Carlyle. God has given us His message through the Bible. We have to study it with prayers to know His will for us. God bless.
So the Bible isnt enough for you?
Why need Ellen White? Jesus is our saviour he was the last Prophet.
Beware of false prophets we are warned yet you embrace her stuff against Jesus....????
I am an evangelical who is learning about the Seventh-day Adventist church only now. I am exploring, but I feel confindent that this man is sincere, and the Christians who live this are sincere as far as I am seeing. They actually live what they preach, and they FEEL empathy, compassion, and LOVE. They demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit. This is enough to get my attention, since this year, in 2020 I am seeing so much selfishness and hypocrisy in the American Evangelical Christian Church, which has truly broken my heart, and I believe has broken the heart of Jesus. So.....I am listening.....
Thank you sister for your message, we are all on our journey and we will find the truth and the truth will set us free. Also checkout amazingfacts.org and amazingdiscoveries.org
I feel the exact same way! I'm so glas I'm not the only one.
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I've seen tons of his lectures and currently enjoy his What's up Prof series at Amazing Discoveries Africa channel. I've seen all 81 or 82 of them.
Im so thankful for her writings. God gave her impacts for every situation in Life. Blessed are those who listening to the guidance of Gods Spirit. To God our father is the Glory and to our Lord Jesus Christ.
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@@AdventistOrgChurch except you wouldn't exist. Without the LIE of the 2300 days. That starts in 457 B.C. in the (spring.) It would be impossible to get to the (fall of 1844). that then teaches the LIE of a Jesus that does not save! That destroys the Jesus of Hebrews 7. But do compliment her and keep her there. You need her money in the offering plate!
I defend Ellen White's writing when former Seventh day Adventist and other denominations who called her as cult wanting to destroy her integrity and credibility. Thank you Jesus for Ellen G. White!
We appreciate you for defending the church, Dohn. God needs more worker like who is willing to preach the good news to all the people in the world.
@Former Adventists Australia Meet you again and greeting to you in the name of Jesus our lord and saviour.
Amen. I join! Satan always attacks those who are closest to God, and do not forsake the Truth! Satan may be angry, amd fire hes arrows at us, but greater is He who is with us! In Jesus name, amen!
I thank God for Ellen White and the work she did. If it wasn't for her, I would have thrown the Bible out a long time ago as a work of fiction. But reading her comments and explanations, I was able to see how the Bible is a coheasive work of divine wisdom. I suspect that those who speak against her, have not read much of her writings. Maybe a little here and there, but not much and not in context. I will admit that I had my doubts for a while.....until I saw a series of lectures by pastor Stephen Bohr on Ellen White....that really opened my eyes to how her inspiration worked and how she passes EVERY biblical test of a true prophet. Whenever I come across something in the Bible that I don't understand, the first thing I do now is to go to see what Ellen White has to say on the subject. That usually clears things up straight away. She usually shows other bible verses on the subject that sheds more light that would take me, possibly a lifetime of searching to find on my own. Her knowledge of the Bible is absolutely amazing. If she is a false teacher as some claim, then why did her writings bring me back to the Bible and continue as a Christian? "You will know them by their fruits" Matt 7:16. I don't know of anyone who has read her writings (regularly and consistently), and then said, "Naww....I don't want to be a Christian"...in fact, just the opposite.
I have a bridge for sale and for you I’ll give u a good deal.
@@jamest7932 Great! I sure could use one. The creek keeps washing away my driveway.
The SDA have has EGW and the Catholics have the Pope. Both false authoritative figures. No difference . The Holy word of God scripture is sufficient for me . I can understand scripture with out man's opinion .
@@janetdavidson8798 How about a woman's opinion? LOL
There is Bible scripture on women are not to be pastors. Yet the SDA has a woman Prophetess .
Unbiblical teachings in the Adventists church:
1. The doctrine of investigative judgment
2. Christ moving from holy place to holy of holies in 1844
3. A heavenly sanctuary with a holy place and a holy of holies
4. Calling angels of the book of Revelation human beings
5. Pegging matters of salvation to the day of worship
6. Teaching that sealing is a number [seven/sabbath] The truth is that sealing in the Holy Spirt
Let's explore these things in dails.
After reading through the comments, I must say this to my Christian brothers and sisters who are defending the attacks against the SDA Church:
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
Proverbs 15:1
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
James 3:8-10
Please chose your words wisely and remember that Christ said we are to love one another, we are to bless those who persecute you. Remember that we are Christ's representatives in this world, and He died for every person on this planet. Love is the greatest commandment!
Peace be unto you all...
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What a blessed, heartwarming, hopeful and truthful message! Thank you so much for your efforts to stay somehow in touch with our big SD Adventist family around the world, pastor Wilson! May the Lord bless you daily so that your guidance is completely tuned to the desires of the Holy Spirit!! Happy Sabbath to you and all the brethren on earth!
Can someone here please help me understand this Ellen G White quote-“In heaven there will be no color line; for all will be as white as Christ himself. Let us thank God that we can be members of the royal family” (Ellen G White, GH March 1, 1901, par. 20). Thanks.
Why are people so hung up on race? This will not even be a consideration in heaven. No matter what race people where on earth, they will be overjoyed to be in heaven . Let go of the whiny race baiting victim hood. It’s of Satan, the first one to cry discrimination. Move on to God.
Thank you for sharing. Continue to uphold this truth on this platform. God will touch hearts of his children to accept this truth. God will lead his church and children home. To God be the Glory.
A challenge here. Ellen White never tested the spirit of her guiding angel as we are commanded to do. 1John 4:1 "My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the Spirit, but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere."
Question: Are you willing to Test your own prophet? If so check out the series "Test the Prophet" here on TH-cam. And after all, if there is no fault to be found in her then this should be a welcome challenge. And if you are don't think you can handle it, please ask yourself why. Again, we are commanded to test all things.
SDAs demonize those who question EGW. The church has kept millions of its followers in darkness about who really was EGW.
Adventists refer to EGW's writings as Spirit of Prophecy. The truth is that "Spirit of Prophecy" is one of the titles of the Holy Spirit. No doubt the Holy Spirit is unwelcome in the Adventist church!! The traditions that were established by the founding leaders of the church supersede the Holy Spirit!! These traditions form the bedrock of Adventist stronghold.
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Amen Pastor Wilson...praying for you Shelly Stone
Shelly Stone is speaking the Truth
Adventism is built on the false prophecy of William Miller and the writings of EGW are full of heresy
@@kipchorngwonektiroto457 How True
You might want to pray you get the real Jesus first
It's amazing how we all read the same bible and we all came out with different interpretation as I read fru the comments. And no one think his/her thoughts are wrong. So who is right and who is wrong? Eevery person is right in their own opinion.
So wether you are seventh day Adventist or not, we all will be judge according to the light we been given.
And if we can't make it to heaven, we can't blame anyone or pastor or any church or seventh Day Adventist.
It will be our own fault.
God bless you all.
Hi a concerned Christian you don’t have to worry about who’s right or wrong if you just read the words in the Bible and believe them as written
God did not leave us guessing nor did he leave this open to interpretation for example when God says in the Bible in the book of Daniel 2300 days that’s what he means when someone like Ellen White changes his words into years When no one told her to do that that’s where your problems start. Christians don’t do that we do not change God’s words
it wasn’t just Ellen White who did that other religions like the Jehovah witnesses in the Mormons have all changed words and printed their own Bibles
you can’t do that the Bible matches the scrolls the Dead Sea Scrolls that were found that are thousands of years old that should tell everybody that the Bible is pretty much OK as it is written and does not need to be written by other religions
Jesus said pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the sabbath, I say pray that our flight will not take place in winter or on the sabbath.
Jesus said if anyone chooses to do Gods will he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own, I say ask the Father if his teachings were spoken through Jesus.
This is the narrow gate and narrow road that leads to life.
Thank you pastor. This message has inspired me to start reading Ellen G. White's literature. So help me God🙏
Rosaria Chirwa - You will be richly blessed if you do. I have read Prophets and Kings over and over (my favorite), as well as The Great Controversy. I recently purchased a new copy of Desire of Ages and need to begin reading this book. I have never completed it, but will do so now.
Indeed....I have been blessed by the Great Controversy as well and Steps to Christ. Now am ongoing with Patriachs and Prophets. The SOP has been a blessing to me. Praise God!!
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Hi, Rosaria. You can start reading her writings online at egwwritings.org. You will be richly blessed.
@@billwilliam9419. Amen. Continue to be blessed, Bill William. You can share her writings with others at egwwritings.org.
Help me please find TH-cam videos of Ellen Whites writing, as my old eyes strain to read text. I’m a SDA that has fallen away from our faith. Any prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all….
Have someone type in the name of any of her books on TH-cam and you will get the audio recording. God Bless you in your journey!
@@respiratoryed thank you very much
With all my heart, I trust Ellen Whites writings. At a young age, God led me to her writings and from that time my life has changed.She really encourages us to read the word of God(bible) daily and what amazes me is that she always refers to the Bible in her writings. As we live in this world (vanity city) May we look passed our sorrows and keep are feet on the narrow way and our eyes focused on the cross. Hope we all meet in heaven when the Good Shepherd shall take us home...
Black man, when will you become enlightened
Isaiah 2:22
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Praying for you always Ted Wilson and the others in the conference. Please please go to Jesus!!! Many are influenced by you and many will perish because they aren't being taught present truth
Wonderful testimony Elder Wilson. Thank you for your leadership, support in the Spirit of Prophecy and the belief in the messages of the three angels for these last days.
SDA traditions and the teachings of the pioneers are stumbling blocks to the manifestation of the Holy Spirit in that denomination.
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@@AdventistOrgChurch AMEN😇
Amen. God certainly is. Let's tell others about Him by inviting others to our official page, Adventist.org. God bless.
Thank you Jay Mark. Stay blessed.
Welcome💖 ALWAYS BLESSED WITH GOD😊
To those who are saying that these prophecies of EGW are perils, tell as your truth.
God bless you thank you Jesus stay strong warrior.
It would be impossible for God to bless it because it's all a lie
Here are some sources that E.G. White copied and/or paraphrased without giving them credit:
1. The Life and Epistles of the Apostle Paul. The book was written by William J. Coonybeare & John S. Howson, published in 1851-52, first in London and later in New York
2. The History: Old Testament by Alfred Edersheim, published by Erdman's Publishing Company, 1876-87
3. Elisha the Prophet [new edition] by Alfred Eddersheim, published 1882
4. The Life of Christ by William Hanna, published in New York by The American Tract Society in 1863
5. Philosophy of Health: Natural Principles of Health and Cure by Larkin B. Cole published by William D. Ticknor & Co in 18-49-53.
6. The Great teacher by John Harris, published in 1836 by J.S.& C Adams
7. Night Scenes in the Bible by Daniel March, published by Zeigler, McCurdy, Philadelphia, in 1870
8. Life of Christ by Farrar, Frederic W,, published by Dutton, New York in 1877
9. The lief of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, published by Galpin, New Haven in 1844
10. The History of Reformation vol. 4 bk 9 by Merle d;Aubigue, J.H., published by Collins, Glasgow & London in 1841
11. History of Waldenses by Wylie, J.A., published by Petter & Galpin, London,no date.
Read The White Lie by Walter Rae to get to the bottom of how much E.G. White plagiarized other people's works. Also, read Desmond Ford's Glecierview manuscript to understand how the teachings of investigative judgment, 1844 and the sanctuary as taught in the Adventist church are unbiblical [These two writers were great Adventist scholars who were defrocked, disfellowship and demoniuzed]
There is a lot about E.G. White that is hidden from ordinary church members.
Thanks 👍😊
Thanks alot,
I have bern searching for this list of the books she used this whole day.
Please list more if there are more.
Thank you again. My prayer request is that I should dedicate time every day to study God's word and read the Spirit of prophecy.
Thank you for sharing your prayer request with us, Rosaria. Rest assured our prayer team will be praying for your spiritual journey! You may also invite others to study with us at Adventist.org. God bless.
Thank you pastor for giving the way to receive GOD'S BLESSINGS 🙂🙂🙏🙏🙏
No matter what people may make critics about Ellen g White and Adventist church we will still remain Seventh day Adventist church till Jesus Christ comes
False prophet
Orem por mim estou com dificuldade de aprender inglês.
Prayers!
I am asking God for guidance on this one. I was raised sda. Saturday is Sabbath. Jesus is coming very soon, but I need to know if I can trust the work of EGW before I can read her books. I read the Great Controversy and I see nothing wrong with it. I feel like it lines up with both history and the Bible. The Bible is enough without EGW's writings. I know this to be true, however, if she really was a prophet of God, I do not want to foolishly dismiss her.
Hi, Michael. Thank you for being honest. Ellen White has padded the tests of a true prophet as set forth in the Holy Scriptures. But to be fully convinced of God, leading her life is to read her writings which can be found at egwwritings.org. You can choose any language and start reading. You may also watch the film, "Tell the World " and watch the story of how God had called her. God bless.
Hi, Michael. Ellen White has passed the tests of a true prophet as set forth in the Holy Bible. The best proof of the Holy Spirit's guidance in her life is to read her writings at
egwwritings.org. You can also watch the film "Tell the World" and see how God had called her. Thank you and God bless.
Pray ask God. He told me to believe she is His prophet!
@@Mamabear11. Praise God. You're blessed.
Michael you can trust eg writitngs are the true word of God, it has same level of inspiraron as bible scriptures. As you read more and more her writings you will discover that anything that is on her writings is a true blessing. My favorite book is christ object lessons. Blessings
don't be discouraged by those who questioned the God's words
Its was her writings that made me understand the meaning of prophetic scenes in Revelation. Let those with ears hear. Not everyone will understand it UNLESS he/she has the spirit in them.
Ellen White did not understand the book of revelation for example the woman in chapter 12 I believe Ellen White teaches this is the church no it’s the nation of Israel
The question wasn’t whether or not the church became an organization the question was did Jesus tell her to start the church Like he told the apostle Paul
The short answer is "no"
I thank our wonderful God for using that little lady to write all those books with spiritual instructions for the world.
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332
“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”
Acts 2:17
“And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.”
Acts 21:8-9
Thank you, Ellen. That was an inspiring comment. Her writings are relevant to our present situation . Please invite others to visit whiteestate.org. God bless.
@@dku746 . We appreciate your sharing to us those texts. Have you visited our official page, Adventist.org. God bless.
God never led me and family down
What a beautiful story ,and full of truth and power of God
Hi, John. We appreciate your comment. Thank you for watching this video. Please share with others her writings online on this link, egwwritings.org. God bless.
Yes, what he says about Ellen White is so true, but sad to say, he as a leader, like most of the them, have not spoken or taught the DEEP THINGS to the church. That is why after the 90's there has been a hush in the church preaching about boldly preach the Three Angels Messages. They will speak about the first angel's message, but the second and third has been watered down. I've even read in one adventist magazine, The Spectrum magazine of a so call Dr. preacher who expressed why the catholic should not be seen as the Antichrist, and not to view sunday as the mark of the Antichrist etc... because he says that this was the mind set of the people in the time of Ellen White, now, can you imagine saying something like that in a adventist magazine and people like Ted Wilson and or others never rebuked them for doing so. One thing I can say for sure, the Jesuits have infiltrated the church and are mixing water and toxic substances to seduce others to view truth differently than what it truly is. Wolves in sheep's clothing indeed, so watch out, test all things, everything. There were other lies in the Spectrum magazine that I will not share here and now. So now you know, do not support magazines that spread lies mixed with truth. Very deceptive indeed.
The church, our circle of friends, is no different than the circle of friends during the time of Christ. Jesus preached a message of love with open arms. This attracted all kinds. Even Judas. Jesus didn't kick Judas out of the circle though. He did point out to Judas, in a loving manner, the error of his ways, but Jesus didn't let this stop him from healing the sick and reaching out to the people in need. Showing kindness and telling his stories. He never closed his arms. They always remained open. Even when he knew that the person he was embracing would defy Him in the end.
I will stay away from anyone who life up Jesus and a false prophet in the same sentence. The Holy spirit is the Spirit of Prophecy not Ellen white. The Holy spirit reveals truth and led us to Christ, not Ellen white!!!!
Hi. as stated in the book, Seventh-day Adventists Believe . . . ,
“The writings of Ellen White are not a substitute for Scripture.
They cannot be placed on the same level. The Holy Scriptures stand alone,
the unique standard by which her and all other writings must be judged
and to which they must be subject” (p. 227).
@@AdventistOrgChurch Aren't the teachings and interpretations of Ellen white on the bible is the continuing source of truth for the church 7 day?
Thank you, Nick Don . The Bible is the basis of teachings of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Please visit our official page, Adventist.org. God bless.
You know very well who drafted the 28 fundamental doctrine of 7 day Adventist ?
@@nickdon I have no idea. Please do tell.
Amen, praise the lord, brethen as I have often contemplated many of the words found in the Bible and the spirit of prophecy i can say without a doubt that we are blessed, may we never continue to hold the banner of christ Jesus higher and higher each day amen.
We praise the Lord for that wonderful experience, Marlon. We are so happy to know that the word of God gives us an inspiration in this life's journey and to have a personal relationship with God.
Dear Pastor Wilson I feel that God has made you the leader of the Seventh -Day Adventist Church for this time.I also value the writings of Ellen G. White
Have really studied the writings of EGW? Do it side by side with the Bible. You'll be shocked!!
I have no problem with SDA doctrine with the exception of Ellen White being a prophet. Paul said that that position was for men ONLY: “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:12. But you have her as a founder of the SDA church AND a prophet. I've seen the Bible Flock video about her where he says her writings are NOT scripture. If her writings are not scripture, then she's NOT a prophet. If she IS a prophet, then her writings are as infallible as the Bible. But yet, she says in "The Desire of Ages," chapter 9: "All this displeased His brothers. BEING OLDER THAN JESUS, they felt that He should be under their dictation. They charged Him with thinking Himself superior to them, and reproved Him for setting Himself above their teachers and the priests and rulers of the people. Often they threatened and tried to intimidate Him; but He passed on, making the Scriptures His guide." Jesus was born of a virgin, so He was the FIRST BORN of Mary. Jesus had 4 brothers and at least two sisters, (Matthew 13:55-56), but NONE of them were older than He. I read her five book series starting with Patriarchs and Prophets, and ending with The Great Controversy. That's how I found that quote about her saying Jesus' brothers were older than He was. (And she WASN'T talking about His "Jewish brothers in the faith," but His born of Mary brothers.) Her books were well written and very insightful, but if they're not infallible, she's NOT a prophet. You wouldn't let Paul or Peter get away with something like this and still think THEY were prophets. SDA's quote her writings as if they're quoting scripture, but it's NOT scripture. I assume there are probably some factions of SDA's who do NOT hold that she is a prophet. Uriah Smith's "Daniel and the Revelation" is where I learned SDA theology, and he makes no mention of her. After reading THAT book, IF any SDA member was a prophet, I'd give that title to him, although he wasn't either. He wrote an incredible book which is even more insightful then The Great Controversy.
Deborah was a prophet. Judges 4.
@@peteloga9965 So? If Mrs. White's words are NOT Scripture, then SHE'S not a prophet. It's that simple.
I went to the Desire of Ages chapter 9 and read what you said above. And it said, “His brothers, as the sons of Joseph were called, sided with the rabbis.. DA 86.1-DA 86.2”
I don’t know where it say Jesus’ brothers were older than himself. Also, wasn’t Jospeh much older than Mary? Is it not possible than Joseph was married once before he married Mary?
@@beautifulcarla I already quoted where it said "His brothers" above. IF he was married before, we have NO RECORD OF IT. Yes, it's possible, but now we're just making up stuff.
Joseph had children from a previous marriage before he married Mary.
PASTOR PRESIDENT,
SHOULD I BELIVE E.G. WHITRE OR THE BIBLE?
There is much in the writings of E.G. White that is unbiblical.
Examples:
1. Was the plan of salvation made before or after the fall?
E.G. White says AFTER the fall (Great Controversy, p.347)
The Bible says BEFORE (Ephesians 1:4:; 1 Peter 1:18)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
2. Was Adam deceived by Satan? E.G.
White says YES (Evangelism, p. 598)
The Bible says NOPE (1 Timothy 2:14)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
3. Did pre-flood human beings mate with animals to produce amalgamated creatures?
E.G. White says YES (Spiritual Gifts Vol. 3,p 64 )
The Bible says NOPE (Genesis 1:24-25- Nowhere in the Bible is it indicated there was amalgamation of human beings and animals before the flood)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
4. Was the tower of Babel built before or after the flood?
E.G. White says BEFORE (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 119)
The Bible says AFTER (Genesis 11:4)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 4.
Who bears human's sins?
E.G. White says SATAN (The Great Controversy, p. 422, 485-486)
The Bible says JESUS (1 Peter 2:24)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
I have read so much of what EGW wrote and what others in the church and outside have written about her writings. She calls her writings "little light" that lead people to "greater light", the Bible. The truth is her writings are leading me away from the Bible. Should I believe the Bible or clear heresies of E.G. White?
I'm a bricklayer and we were asked to work on the coming Sat. Every one said sure but one man, I was new at the company, so they informed me that he is 7th day Adventist, and they don't work on the Sabbath. I had never considered the subject and was deeply troubled by the possible implications. So that evening I prayed and asked for help with this issue. That prayer was answered with a series of dreams in which I was shown much more than I thought I had asked about.
I was shown Adventism represented as a house that the builders stopped working on before the house was completed. The doors and windows and such were never installed. It was made implicitly clear to me that the house afforded no protection! Beloved I was shown the Adventists did not follow "further light" as Sister White warned that they must do. The call to "Come out of Babylon" now ironically applies to Adventists as well. Steeples, Feast Days, Pagan Holy Days, No Baptism in the Holy Spirit, No Restoration of the Names. The "Seven Thunders" are sounding, but only INDIViDUALS can hear.
Hi, Michael. You may want to learn more about us and not just rely on your dreams for your opinion. Please visit our official website at Adventist.org. God bless.
Hi Michael. That's a very interesting dream and comment. I agree with it fully. Thanks for sharing it. "A house that the builders stopped working on before the house was completed......a house that afforded no protection". Wow. That is such an impactful mouthful. Captures my concerns to a Tee.
@@AdventistOrgChurch what is the difference between him using his dreams/visions to tell you what the word of God is and Ellen White doing it?
what a moving story of truth and love that impacted you personally! Its the personal witness that will win the world!
And put them all in Babylon! You're too blind to see that's not the Jesus of the Bible that they teach!
Yes pastor...Steps to Christ is a very nice book ...I love SOP...
My prayers are:
Come out of her my people.
LUKEWARM HAS TO GO. TIME for a decision.
CHOOSE ETERNAL LIFE.
Dear reader, if you are a Seventh Day Adventist (SDA), remember do not be afraid of what any false prophet says (Dt. 18:22), including Ellen G. White.
Hi. Ellen G. White was truly a remarkable woman who, meeting all the tests of a
true #prophet as set forth in the Holy Scriptures, helped found the
Seventh-day Adventist #church. And through the counsels given through
this special messenger, God has blessed us immensely.
No,she didn't!!@
the BIBLE says the holy spirit reveals the truth through prophets. Amos 3:7 says "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets". A great deal of the OT was written by prophets who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. 2Pet 1:19-21 Talks about having a sure word of prophecy and that prophecy came not by the will of man but of holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Rev 19:10 says the Testimony of Jesus in the spirit of Prophesy. Act 2:17 says "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Please also remember that even in biblical time there were women who were prophets: Miriam Ex15:20, Deborah Jg 4:4, Isaiahs wife Isa 8:3, Philips 4 daughters Acts 21:9.....Prophecy, as well as preaching and teaching is listed as a gift of the Spirit. Not something only the Spirit can do. You can have all the opinions you like, however the scripture should be your guide and the scripture is very clear that the GIFT of prophecy is given to Gods people.
What tests are you referring to because the one that I know about that God set forth in the book of deuteronomy chapter 18 and 13 she did not meet she failed why don’t you read those chapters
Yes she did have you read dueteronomy chapter 13 and 18
Luke 16:16 St John is the last prophet and apostle, not EG White.
Praise the Lord, for His mercy endureth forever.💙☺🎶💞❤
Amen! Thank you for watching it,Deslynn. We're glad to see you here. You may message us here if you have a prayer request. God bless
Hi, Deslyn.Praise God, indeed. You may share with others EGW writings online. Please invite them to visit, egwwritings.org. God bless.
I think this is a very poor message to be given by a church president
Jesus was many a times praised for teaching with authority. Now His Church teaches with authority, fully utilising God's given authority ( Mt 26:18-19). Doing away with circumcision and the Cannon of the bible being two examples
Happy sabbath
Glory be to God amen and amen ❤😍
Happy Sabbath Pastor Ted Wilson and Family 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️
Thank You JESUS, for the revelation. Amen.
Amen. God bless you, Marcia! You may learn more about EG White's writings by visiting whiteestate.org. Thank you and God bless.
One of the best explanations of who Ellen White was.. Thank you
I noticed that no one has ever replied to my comment which is a question did Ellen White ever claim that Jesus told her to start that church?
Yes her visions are what gave her the direction to start the Seventh-day Adventist Church. God specifically told her to have 3 Angels to represent the church. A lot of SDA church’s have lost this vision and have taken down the 3 Angels and replaced it with a flame…a similar symbol to the Sunday churches. This was not what God directed.
See Counsels for the Church Introduction and you will get your answer. 😃🙏🏻
@@alexestrada8765 KJV 2 Timothy 2:15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Hi is this how God talk to prophets in the Bible how did God talk to Ezekiel how did God talk to Jeremiah how did God talk to Moses and how did God talk to Paul?
These types of examples are given to us as Christians in the Bible so that we will not follow a false prophet the apostle Paul specifically mention the word angel if an angel comes to you do not believe them
@@shellystone3211 how did God talk to Balaam..?
Praise the Lord for all he has given & may Pastor Ted continue to be blessed and guided in these times 🙏🏻♥️🔥🔥🔥🔥♥️
If there was no authority then there is no understanding of the Scriptures
my guess is that you don’t even know everything Ellen White Taught and another guess is you don’t even know what’s in the Bible
Same as Ellen, she didn't know either. When you don't know you make it up. You go off your feelings and personal experiences.
None of God's biblical prophets has ever gotten any prophecy wrong.
To get a prophecy wrong, is to say God is liar. God cannot lie. He is not flesh. He is a Spirit(Holy Spirit).
Let God be true, and every man(including women-because you also have false prophetess) a liar.
The greatest gift of God is Salvation.
Hi, Ann. Thank you for being here with us. Stay blessed.
So Ellen White was “appointed by God as a special messenger”, maybe you should send that memo to Australian pastors & those in positions of leadership...
Australia -
Jorge Munoz and Graham Christian from the AUC and Vic conference - failed to respond to my question “does EGW still speak to us with an authoritative voice?”
I could only conclude they don’t believe that she does.
So if the leaders such as presidents don’t follow EGW’s counsel, it is no surprise that pastors don’t either.
Hi, Peony. We understand that. Changes may not be instant. Or God’s answers may not come as we expect them. But we know that He is continually working, He hears our prayers. Rest assured that God is still in control. Let’s continue to trust His love and pray for each other. 1 Peter 5:8 says,
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. God bless.
@@orlandoberry4031. Thank you for watching this video. “The writings of Ellen White are not a substitute for Scripture.
They cannot be placed on the same level. The Holy Scriptures stand alone,
the unique standard by which her and all other writings must be judged
and to which they must be subject” (p. 227). Please visit Adventist.org. God bless.
@hkk jr . Thank you for watching this video. All of us are work in progress. The best thing to do is pray for each other and support each other for in 1 Peter 5:8 says,
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Be blessed.
@@AdventistOrgChurch - if EGW does not ‘speak to us with an authoritative voice’, then change the fundamental beliefs. If she does, then follow her council. .
There are good things The Adventist church has to offer the world.
Just have 2 main issues with their teachings:
1 -EGW as infallible interpreter of the scriptures and prophet.
2 - the 2,300 years 1844 (investigative judgment) doctrine.
The Roman church has apologized for the atrocities and bigotry of the past yet the Adventist church has never claimed it has errored.
Desmond Ford was defrocked of his position because he had a different point of view of Daniel8:14 and Hebrews 9 (Glacier View 1980)
There is no such thing as investigative judgement. That is not biblical no scripture supports that judgement has started.
She preached many false doctrines and contradicts herself on many occassion time after time like that of a confused person c
@@ajaunhoustonsparents6247 Read Eccl. 12:14, 2 Cor. 5:10, and then read Rom. 4:25 which said "Christ was offered to die for our sins, and He rose to make us Right with God"-and that "make us right with God" is Perfectly set forth in biblical view of Christ's high priestly ministry for us in the heavenly sanctuary , in which the investigative judgement plays a Major part when the High Priest goes into the Most Holy Place in the Day of Atonement, as Paul clarified that all the types and services of the earthly sanctuary were but shadows and symbols of what Christ (as our Great High Priest) is doing for us in the heavenly sanctuary....
Now, Read Daniel 7 as to what happens in the investigative judgement, and Daniel 8:14 as to When that judgement starts ....thus, You Sir, are Openly Contradicting the bible and blatantly maligning God's Prophet/Messenger whom He sent to clarify these Very truths of the bible to His people! Don't let this sin stand against you in the judgement, because make no mistake, your name will be brought up in that judgement and if you are deliberately holding onto this sin, you will be held accountable...
Wonderful family testimony. Thank God Ellen G White, lifted up Jesus and not herself. God bless you and I pray He continues to lead and keep you as you lead this worldwide church.
Amen 🙏 GODBLESS 🙏🙏🙏watching from Jeddah
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I'm a former Adventist minister. E.G. White lifted a lot from the writers of her time without giving them credit. I investigated her sources since I was a student at an Adventist university until I became a pastor and came to the conclusion that she paraphrased other people's writings and made them her own! When Drs. Desmond Ford and Walter Rae confronted the church about it in 1980, they were defrocked and demonized. Now the church says the plagiarism was done by her editorial assistants!
The denomination believes EGW is the end-time prophet whose theological concepts should not be scrutinized biblically. Many Adventists believe EG White is the latter-day prophet whose work should not be subjected to the Bible scrutiny. That is why Adventists regard themselves as a remnant and all other Christian denominations are apostates!
Read Desire of Ages and Great Controversy, for instance, and compare them side by side with their sources and you will be shocked! I was shocked by how much she copied from the past and her contemporary writers!!
Adventists, why do you allow your church leadership to mislead you?
so having a lawyer who specialises in copyright infringement give EGW the ok is not enough for u?the church went through the wringer because of walter reas book,they did the right thing and employed the right people to validitate those claims from Walter rea,She passed the test,why dont you make a video showing the findings you have made or show some links to the book your referring to and while your at it why dont you state what denomination your in now,give me a chance to fire back with the claim your church is misleading you
@@sliew9120 You need to face up to the facts. EGW was dishonest and fraudulent. James White was complicit also. This has been proven conclusively by many scholars.
@@alongcamejones309 show me where the plagarism is happening and the source from which EGW copied from
@@sliew9120 See on U tube "Christian Scholars Forum" where all things SDA are discussed. Also "Former Adventist Fellowship" have some interesting revelations re: EG and James White.
@@alongcamejones309 so does that mean your lazy and just cant be bothered to show me where the plagarism is happening?Christian scholars,yes i went and had a look,the fact that they dismiss the law as being obselete tells me also the angle from which you come,at the end of the day scripture has the final say in interpretation, something the Christian scholars has failed at,in doing away with the law they also remove that which identifys your sin and condemns you and puts you under the death penalty,
Answer me this if there is no law to condemn you,then how can you be under the death penalty?if there is no death penalty how can you be saved by grace if no law condemns you?,
If there is no need of grace then why was the Son of God crucified for your sins?
if the commandments were to be removed why would God kill his only Son for you?
is God stupid?
Jesus is our teacher we only have one Rabbi, The Holy Spirit is Beautiful Beautiful, A Fathers Love
Interesting statement. There were prophets in the bible. The BIBLE says, they were inspired of God. The BIBLE also says that one of the gifts of the Spirit given to man is the gift of Prophecy as well as teaching and preaching. The BIBLE says that in the end times your sons and daughters will prophesy and you old men will dream dreams...... Rev 19:10 says the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy and Rev 12:17 Says The dragon (satan) was wroth with the woman (church) and went to make war with the remnant of her seed who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony (spirit of prophecy) of Jesus...
Hi Shelly Stone Please stop telling people EGW is in Hell. The Bible tells us that we sleep until resurrection, no?
CBDYNA, I hope you aren't being influenced by "Shelly Stone", who is as biased and untruthful as one can probably get about Sister White! Here's one response I made to her false allegations :
"You are taking her writings out of context and applying your OWN ideas and interpretations to them. People should be encouraged to find out for themselves directly from her writings, which are easily found even online. The Great Controversy was finalised in 1911 and that is the one people need to read regarding prophecies fulfilling today. After that, yes, people with an agenda to change our teachings entered the GC church, as they've done with ALL denominations. This is part of the 'Great Reset'/NWO agenda - but her original writings are totally correct and trustworthy. I personally resent your dishonest and biased attempts to make out Ellen White's writings are in any way incorrect or untruthful. It's so easy, isn't it, to just say she 'was a false prophet' but you have NO evidence - just biased arguments. Hardly scholarly research!
@@goldenautumn3073 Hi Golden. I don't read Ellen much yet, but still do not doubt she was inspired. The one problem I do have with SDA (And I love Walter Veith) is that he says USA is the second beast of Revelation 13. Hear me out here, ok?............Revelation 13:11 starts the description of the Earth Beast and the concluding verse Rev 13:18 states clearly its the pope(s), so I disagree with him and SDA in general that USA is the Earth Beast. Daniel tells us Rome is the last ruling Kingdom too, so, again, SDA are wrong here. And it is confusing too since SDA are the only ones really calling out the False Profit / Antichrist. So besides that major error, I think SDA are about as close to the word as you can get. And agree, theres corruption in every Religion, its why I came out of her as instructed in the first place and do not attend any Church today.
No the Bible does not tell us that we sleep it doesn’t say anything about sleeping until Jesus returns when the Bible uses the term falling asleep that just simply means dead your body is dead so where is your spirit well ecclesiastics tells you that the breath goes back to God who gave it but your spirit does not need to breathe so where does your spirit go well in the Bible in the Old Testament and what the Jewish people believed and still believe is that the spirit went to Abraham‘s bosom a holding place for spirits in the Old Testament.
Now after Jesus came and died and he descended and set the captives free in first Peter 318 through 21 it clearly says that Jesus went and preach to the spirits SPIRITS in prison these are not people these are spirits who are in Abraham’s bosom and he took them to heaven with him
There is no more Abraham’s bosom a holding place for spirits that’s where the Catholic Church twisted that and they’ve got the term Purgatory Catholics are not Christians and Christians are not Catholics
Christians believe that Jesus emptied out Abrahams bosom and through his blood and his salvation now when we die we go directly our spirit as a living spirit goes to Jesus and God we do not sleep
However the Bible does teach that there are people spirits that sleep they sleep? To sleep means death in the Bible in the Old Testament and death to the Jews meant separation from God so when a person dies now if they sleep that means they are unsaved and separated from God in the Bible teaches that that spirit is in hell for all eternity
@@shellystone3211 Daniel 12:2
King James Version
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Hi God bless. I’m going to try to explain this to you biblically and in accordance with Jewish beliefs which is who the old testament was written for The word sheol is used in the Old Testament It has 2Hebrew meanings the grave and Abraham’s bosom…a holding place for spirits depending on the context of how it was used example
Jacob said I will go down to Sheol to See my son when he thought Joseph was dead……? Why would Jacob believe that he would see his son when he went simply to the grave? he didn’t he believed he was going to Sheol a holding place for the good spirits…..It doesnt what your church taught you-what the Jewish people believed is what Jesus And the apostles in the early church believed and Christian’s today
book of Daniel when the prophecies given to Daniel when those who sleep in dust will live they will arise some to everlasting eternity and some to contempt and some to everlasting punishment….3 things had to happen, eternity, punishment, contempt
Has this prophecy already fulfilled yes Christians believe this was fulfilled.
First Hebrew meaning of sleep? To be separated from God. Not to physically sleep
Eternity: when the Messiah came died he descended he took the spirits out of prison to heaven out of Abrahams person as stated in first Peter 318 through 21
Contempt: the Bible clearly tells you that there were 500 dead people who rose out of the graves in Jerusalem and walked back into Jerusalem to the city these people were resurrected why? They were the witnesses to the Pharisees and the Jews about how they had not been keeping God’s laws
Everlasting punishment: The spirits who were judged at that time when the Messiah died and rose again were judged and condemed to hell
This is a lot to think about as a Seventh-day Adventist…. because these are things that you were never taught these are things that the early Christian church believed and that our Christian churches today believe this is what sets us apart from Catholics, Jehovah witnesses Islam Mormons and you Seventh-day Adventist who all call yourself Christians but do not believe the Christian doctrine or the Christian beliefs from the first century Church
Jesus, Mary and Martha when Lazarus died…this might clear it up for you…. Mary says Lord my brother would not have died if you had been here…..Jesus says your brother will live again…..Mary says yay Lord I know he will live in the Resurrection…..Jesus says Mary IAM the resurrection…(present use not future) those who believe in me will never die they will be passed from death to life
This means you do not sleep and wait to be resurrected this means that you are resurrected at death.
Thessalonians 416 --read also read the few verses just above that where it clearly states that when Jesus comes for his church those who are alive he Will bring those who have died already with him. As a seven stamping test that should be very confusing to you why would he bring those who have already died with him when he comes to get those who are alive? This is what we call the rapture which the first century church believed in.
Jesus appears in clouds
Brings spirits of those who died already
Raises their dead bodies (reunites spirit/body) changes to glorified bodies
Then catches up those alive also changing their bodies glorified like his
No where in this verse doesn’t say Jesus’s feet touch the ground nor does it tell you that the people that are taken up alive are on this earth so where are they?
This is what Christians believe we are in heaven for the seven years during the tribulation having the marriage supper of the Lamb with Jesus we believe the book of revelation is in perfect chronological order and then in chapter 19 where it says Jesus returns to the earth with his army dressed in white linen hey that’s the church who just received their white linen in the verses above at the marriage supper we were term with Jesus and he sets up his millennial physical kingdom on this earth for 1000 years
Christians believe again very different doctrine then what Ellen White taught Mohammed taught Charles is Russell from Jehovah witnesses and Joseph Smith for Mormons.
The apostle Paul tells us that in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. And Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream had the stone without hands destroying the entire statue. That stone was representative of the Lord's power to do this without man's initiative. Your faith in God's power through prophets is admirable, but that power did not happen through Ellen White, but through a prophet called and ordained to act in God's name.
Why do you think power comes without authority? Ellen White had no priesthood. She didn't have any witnesses other than herself. I've read Ellen White's visions and I find them superfluous, very much like a fabricated near death experience someone hopes to make money from. For example, Jesus swinging open the pearly gates with his mighty arm! None of what she saw in THE GREAT CONTROVERSY was very impressive. I looked for depth as it pertained in the battle of Armageddon, and only found the finger pointed at the Papacy, the favorite whipping boy of the protestant movement. Instead, Ezekiel points his finger at the Muslims (Ezekiel 38:5-6,38-39; Zechariah 12-14). The Papacy has no military might, but the Muslims do.
I compared Mrs. White's visions to Joseph Smith's revelations and found the latter to be much more sophisticated and impressive. In fact, I've read most everything he and later prophets of his day wrote. You can choose as you wish, but if you check out D&C 45, 76 and 121, I'd like to see anything Mrs.White said to be anything nearly as impressive.
John Roberts..."the Papacy, the favorite whipping boy of the protestant movement. Instead, Ezekiel points his finger at the Muslims (Ezekiel 38:5-6,38-39; Zechariah 12-14). The Papacy has no military might"...
U do not have to read the GC or The Bible to know that The Papacy is a cruei, brutal regime who received its seat and power from Satan himself. They do not beleve that they are accountable to anyone. And I believe that those who embrace the Papacy are complicit in the rape, and murder of millions, including their very own Nuns(Keys of his blood). It is b/c of people like u that the Papacy has regained its power and not been brought to account for their deeds. ....and The Papacy has always had military might. Ever heard of the "Crusades", inappropriately named, "Christian Crusades" whereas they need to be known as Roman Catholic Crusades. The Papacy has its own Kingdom. The "Captain General" is head of its Jesuit order. Wakey John. Jesus is coming soon.
Oh boy. Look at this guy. The Papacy has been the First Beast in Revelation 13 for the last 1500 years and created the Islamic faith. Yes, The Vatican created the religion the Muslims follow. Muslims are nothing but Catholics. Most don't know it though. It is why there is a book about Mary in the Koran and if that is not enough association for you, look this up- Every single place you find a mosque in the Middle East, you will also find a Catholic Church or Cathedral close by. And finally, look at the symbolism. Both the Catholics and Islamic faith sport crescent moons.
I love you my Pastor Wilson. I am praying for you even at this time as you lead God's people. Let Jesus be your Best of friends. God loves you more. Be faithful. Let no one take your crown.
Hi, Nadine! Thank you for watching it. We hope your in good health. Let us know if you have prayer request. God bless
@@AdventistOrgChurch yes I do. Please pray for the well-being of my family
@@chatayministries1202 Thank you, our prayer team will be praying for you and your family. God bless
@@AdventistOrgChurch thank you
I am glad I know what is coming...Lord protect us from the evil that is coming. and thank you for your message! AMEN!
Jesus was Jewish and didn’t start a new religion.
⚠️ If Ted wants to resotore the confidence of the brethren, he would withdraw that pathetic Great Hope❗
Amen and amen, brother. Unbelievable deception - and unbelievable that apparently millions were obtained to produce it.
God bless out church
Amen! Thank you for watching it,TOTAL STUDENT'S INVOLVEMENT
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Mathew 13:33
For those who slumber Who is our Sabbath Rest?
Hebrews 3 and 4….will you be lost in the wilderness of wandering where you are here and now?
Galatians 3…
Hebrews 10:10
Galatians 2:21
Jeremiah 3:16
Jeremiah 3:8
2 Corinthians 3:6-18
Galatians 2:11-21
Colossians 2:16
Love the story of Ellen white
Sadly sadly white is a false prophet God's order is Jesus men then women
Pastor, since I have decided to start reading Spirit of prophecy literature, will you please availl me with the recommended reading plan for the books? Like which book to start with?.
Desire of Ages or Steps to Christ, then Great Controversy
Thank you pastor for your response. I will start right away with the books indicated in that order.
Thank you for watching, Rosaria. God bless you
Hi, Rosaria. Thank you for watching this video. You can start with Step to Christ, Then the Conflict of the Ages Series. You can also download this on egwwritings.org. God bless.
@@wemustprophesyagain7382 .Thank you . That was a very good suggestion. You can promote the page, whiteestate.org. God bless.
Thank you so much for your testimony Pastor Wilson!
Praise God! Thank you for watching it, Leland. God bless
Why the past history get to the point re Ellen White
Thank you for sharing this wonderful message.
You're welcome. Continue to be inspired. You can share EG White writings on line by inviting others to egwwritings.org. God bless.
Thank you so much Pastor Ted Wilson. Ellen White also inspired my life as well as my whole family. She was really appointed by God...
Hi. Lydia. Praise God! We are so happy to hear that! May God continually bless and guide you. Please know that You will be part of our prayers. You can also help us share our official page with others at Adventist.org. God bless.
The woman was the first to be deceived in Genesis, take heed, take MUCH HEED.
All this is true and changed my life.
Thank you for watching it, Anise. We're glad to see you here. You may message us here if you have a prayer request. God bless
Hi, Anise. Praise God! We are so happy to hear that! May God continually bless and guide you. Please know that You will still be part of our prayers. Having said this, please help us share our social media posts at www.adventist.org/articles/the-gift-of-prophecy/God bless.
Is it true that she prophecy falsley many time?
😀👍🙏🏼 her writings uplifts Jesus Christ, not herself. And so it is, I must decrease and He increase in my life.
Amen. That is very true Ben Jr. Let us promote her writings which is now available at egwwritings.org . God bless.
Not sure if this is correct. So Ellen books should be a must when reading the Bible, so the Bible is not worth it if you don't apply Ellen G Whites book next to the Bible when reading?
Hello friends, that's not how it works. Ellen books is just 'a little light' that lead us to a 'bigger light' which is the bible.
God bless you🙏🏻
@Blaster Master Yes I agree with you and also that it looks like they made the excuse of their wrong prediction and then came up with the sanctuary doctrine to cover up.
@Blaster Master Wow thank you! You gave me some more research topics. And when did you realize that there was a problem? And were they very strict on their believes and were there any punishment involved as a kid?
@@reynaldikarundeng974 Why would one need a flashlight to find the sun?
Hi, Kobusfoon can foon. Thank you for watching this video. As stated in the book, Seventh-day Adventists Believe . . . ,
“The writings of Ellen White are not a substitute for Scripture.
They cannot be placed on the same level. The Holy Scriptures stand alone,
the unique standard by which she and all other writings must be judged
and to which they must be subject” (p. 227). God bless.
So the writings of EWG did a great impression over your familly? It seems it wasn't so much a revelation for your father: Ted's father was Neil C. Wilson, who as the GC vice president when he made this statement under oath in a court
hearing: "Although it is true that there was a period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the
denomination took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint, and the term ‘hierarchy’ was used in a pejorative sense
to refer to the papal form of church governance, that attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a
manifestation of widespread anti-popery among conservative Protestant denominations in the early part of this
century and the latter part of the last, and which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap so far as the
Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned." EEOC vs PPPA and GC, Civil Case #74-2025 CBR (1975). It seems to me that jesuitism run deep in your familly! Looking at you ecuminism, it is still alive a well.
God will deal with your kind, like you didn't have enough true.
Bro./Sis. You have said it just has it is.
Hi, Babylone Tombe. Thank you for being here with us. The best way to know EGW is by watching the movie " Tell the World". You may also want to visit this, whiteestate.org. God bless.
@@valentiadonellyaugustin. Hi, Valentia. We appreciate you watching our video. You may want to visit, whiteestate.org, God bless.
Thank you Oshea Robin. You can share her writings with others if you will visit , whiteestate.org. God bless.
I've learned a lot from the teachings of the SDA but i don't follow the teachings of EW or anyone else writing books to sell.
You don't know what you're missing.. Pray enerstly for the Holy Spirit when ever you want to study God's word.. Ellen White went through the tests prescribed in the Bible for a prophet.. Time is running out.. Don't waste it arguing but go to her writings.. Especially the book The Great Controversy ( most of the content is about Mat 24)
May God richly bless you as you study His word
How do you know that it was Jesus speaking through her and that it was not something else that she channeled?
Hello Interesting. Thank you for asking that question. If it is not against God's words then it is from God.
@@AdventistOrgChurch "If it is not against God's words then it is from God." - I strongly agree! ... a new member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church here in the Philippines, who has been enlightened by God's grace, to remember and keep the Lord's Sabbath Day Holy, ... formerly a member of an Evangelical Methodist Church in the Philippines ... glory to God forevermore ... Amen! Amen!
No that is not how you test a prophet. A prophet is someone who claims to speak for God, ie the Lord God said……being shown stuff by angels, is not a prophet.
This is the Christian definition of a prophet and there is a profits test in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 and 13.
Great is our God 😇
Amen! Thank you for watching it,John. We're glad to see you here. You may message us here if you have a prayer request. God bless
Hi, John. Please help us share God's greatness by inviting others to study the bible.. Our official page is Adventist.org. God bless.
Tedward, what do you mean by "meeting all the tests of a true prophet as set forth in the holy scriptures"? There is only ONE such test, Deut 18:22 and Ellen White failed it miserably! Her false prophecies are many and well documented.
You referred to the INSPIRED writings of Ellen White. How can they be inspired yet not on the same level as the inspired scriptures? That is logically absurd! Does the Holy Spirit inspire mistakes?? I am mot an sda but have read enough of her writings to know that Ellen White constantly contradicted both the Bible and herself!
Should we blame the Holy Spirit for that?
May God light up your eyes. ✨
Happy Sabbath 🫶🏽😊
Thankyou, but God opened my eyes in 1980. In 1985 I met an sda lady and over the last 39 years we have on and off, debated adventism Vs Biblical Christianity. At present we have been discussing, (arguing?) The matter continually for 13 years!
I think I am reasonably knowledgeable about adventism having studied it in some detail, but my conviction that adventism is a highly dangerous cult has only grown stronger as a result of my study!
There are also what might be called physical and spiritual tests of the prophet of God. In these paragraphs those of a more physical nature will be considered. Looking through the records of the past, and especially the writings of the Bible prophets concerning the work and experience of God's holy servants, we find here and there certain characteristics of the prophet of the Lord when in vision. We have already observed that some of these messengers of the Most High had such visions in the public assembly or in their own homes while others were around them, but there are other distinguishing marks that we shall notice. When a prophet actually goes into vision, and while he is in vision, the following features should be observed:
1. He Loses All His Natural StrengthBSPC 133Daniel's testimony concerning this particular feature of his experience is given in the following expressions: "There remained no strength in me." Daniel 10:8. "1 retained no strength." Verse 8. "I have retained no strength." Verse 16. "There remained no strength in me." Verse 17.
Having been deprived of his strength, Daniel would naturally fall, perhaps gently, to the ground. This is evidently what happened, for in verse 9 we find him "in a deep sleep" with his "face toward the ground." Then, he said, an angelic "hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands." Verse 10. The margin of the Revised translation gives the wording, "He set me tottering upon my knees." This condition characterized Balaam also, for we read in entering a vision that he "saw the vision of the Almighty, falling." Numbers 24:4. The text in the Authorized Version reads "falling into a trance," but it will be observed that the words "in a trance" are supplied and hence not in the original text. The thought is that of actually falling to the ground, and it is expressed by Rotherham as he "falls down"; Goodspeed as "prostrate"; the Douay as "falls." The same thing happened to Saul, afterward called Paul, in the vision on the road to Damascus. Though the record does not say he fell to the earth, it does say that "Saul arose from the earth." (Acts 9:8.)
A good statement concerning this physical condition as found in one of the Jewish writings is as follows:
"All the time when they had the prophetic experience, their limbs trembled, their physical strength failed them, their thoughts became confused; and the mind was left free to comprehend the vision it saw."-MAIMONIDES, The Mishneh Torah (known as the Yad Hachazakah), Book I. Edited and translated by Moses Hyamson (New York: Bloch, 1937), p. 42b.
2. He Is Supernaturally StrengthenedBSPC 133In Daniel's further testimony as to what happened to him in vision, he tells us what the angel did after he lost his natural strength: "He strengthened me." Daniel 10:18. "I was strengthened." Verse 19. "Thou has strengthened me." Verse 19. "Be strong, yea, be strong." Verse 19.
In making His servants the prophets fit channels for the transmission of the divine message, God deprives them of everything that might indicate human strength and power; then He Himself empowers them with His own strength, and so the more effectively can He use them as He desires.
3. He Has His Eyes OpenBSPC 134This is expressed twice in recording the experience of the prophet Balaam: "Whose eyes are open." Numbers 24:1 "Having his eyes open." Verse 4. This undoubtedly refers to the spiritual as well as the physical sight; both are open.
4. He Does Not BreatheBSPC 134This is an unusual physical characteristic of the prophet, and Daniel in his prophecy referred to this when he said, "Neither is there breath left in me." Daniel 10:17.
It seems that there can be very little dispute as to the wording of this text, for practically all the translations agree with the thought expressed in the foregoing text. The Douay Version gives, "moreover my breath is stopped." We are here face to face with a remarkable phenomenon, that of a man speaking and moving as the prophet did in vision, and yet with no breath in his body. We need not, however, be surprised at this; for after all, God can just as well keep a man alive without breathing as He could with breathing. This was one of the miracles wrought when the prophets of God had these "open" visions. So different were the prophets of God from the false prophets of their day. The impostors might go into a trance and be possessed of evil spirits, but the prophet of the Lord, when in vision, was a constant miracle of the wonder-working power of the mighty God of Israel. And as such he was possessed of the Divine Spirit speaking the message of God in and through him.
5. He Speaks Without BreathingBSPC 134This is listed here in this connection, but the matter has already been dealt with in the foregoing paragraph.
6. His Tongue Is Controlled by the LordBSPC 134Because the Lord has strengthened the prophet and empowered him with His own Spirit, naturally it is God who speaks through him. David declared, "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, and his word was in my tongue." 2 Samuel 23:2.
In the light of this consideration the expression in 2 Timothy has particular force and cogency. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God." 2 Timothy 3:16. Rotherham renders this, "Every Scripture is God-breathed." How significant! The prophet loses all natural strength; he is supernaturally strengthened. He ceases to breathe, yet God breathes through him. So the messages that come are "God-breathed." God takes the human vehicle and through him breathes his own message to men.
7. He Is Unconscious of His SurroundingsBSPC 135One might conclude that the prophet, in ecstatic vision, would be unconscious of his surroundings. Notice how the apostle Paul describes his own condition when in vision:
"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body I cannot tell: God knows;) how that he was caught up into paradise." 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.
As to the manifestation of these characteristics in the experience of Mrs. E. G. White in her earlier visions, note the following testimonies. One of the most comprehensive descriptions of her in vision is that given by James White, in 1868:
"Her condition in vision may be described as follows:
"1. She is utterly unconscious of everything transpiring around her, as has been proved by the most rigid tests, but views herself as removed from this world, and in the presence of heavenly beings.
"2. She does not breathe. During the entire period of her continuance in vision, which has at different times ranged from fifteen minutes to three hours, there is no breath, as has been repeatedly proved by pressing upon the chest, and by closing the mouth and nostrils.
"3. Immediately on entering vision, her muscles become rigid, and joints fixed, so far as any external force can influence them. At the same time her movements and gestures, which are frequent, are free and graceful, and cannot be hindered nor controlled by the strongest person.
"4. On coming out of vision, whether in the day-time or a well lighted room at night, all is total darkness. Her power to distinguish even the most brilliant objects, held within a few inches of the eyes, returns but gradually, sometimes not being fully established for three hours. This has continued for the past twenty years; yet her eyesight is not in the least impaired, few persons having better than she now possesses.
"She has probably had, during the past twenty-three years, between one and two hundred visions. These have been given under almost every variety of circumstance, yet maintaining a wonderful similarity; the most apparent change being, that of late years they have grown less frequent, but more comprehensive. She has been taken off in vision most frequently when bowed in prayer. Several times, while earnestly addressing the congregation, unexpectedly to herself and to all around her, she has been instantly prostrated in vision."-James White, Life Incidents in Connection With the Great Advent Movement, pp. 272, 273.
F. M. Wilcox has well expressed the matter as follows:
"The physical manifestations in many of her visions correspond to the experience of the prophets of old. We refer to the physical manifestations under which many of these visions were given, similar to the experience of Daniel and other prophets of the Old Testament.
"We do not, however, regard these physical manifestations as the principal convincing evidences of the divine call to Mrs. White. Rather, they constitute subsidiary or contributing evidences. The great proof of her call to divine ministry was shown in the answer of her work to prophetic prediction; in the spirit which characterized her ministry throughout the years. In the correspondence of her teachings to those of the Bible. In the marked manner in which she was used of God to save His church in many crises. And by the fruit her ministry bore through all the years of her earthly life and which is still appearing as a result of her labors."-The Review and Herald, January 19, 1950. BSPC 132.6 - BSPC 136.4
@rowanflynn462 Some of the Physical Tests of a Prophet There are also what might be called physical and spiritual tests of the prophet of God. In these paragraphs those of a more physical nature will be considered. Looking through the records of the past, and especially the writings of the Bible prophets concerning the work and experience of God's holy servants, we find here and there certain characteristics of the prophet of the Lord when in vision. We have already observed that some of these messengers of the Most High had such visions in the public assembly or in their own homes while others were around them, but there are other distinguishing marks that we shall notice. When a prophet actually goes into vision, and while he is in vision, the following features should be observed:
1. He Loses All His Natural StrengthBSPC 133Daniel's testimony concerning this particular feature of his experience is given in the following expressions: "There remained no strength in me." Daniel 10:8. "1 retained no strength." Verse 8. "I have retained no strength." Verse 16. "There remained no strength in me." Verse 17.
Having been deprived of his strength, Daniel would naturally fall, perhaps gently, to the ground. This is evidently what happened, for in verse 9 we find him "in a deep sleep" with his "face toward the ground." Then, he said, an angelic "hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands." Verse 10. The margin of the Revised translation gives the wording, "He set me tottering upon my knees." This condition characterized Balaam also, for we read in entering a vision that he "saw the vision of the Almighty, falling." Numbers 24:4. The text in the Authorized Version reads "falling into a trance," but it will be observed that the words "in a trance" are supplied and hence not in the original text. The thought is that of actually falling to the ground, and it is expressed by Rotherham as he "falls down"; Goodspeed as "prostrate"; the Douay as "falls." The same thing happened to Saul, afterward called Paul, in the vision on the road to Damascus. Though the record does not say he fell to the earth, it does say that "Saul arose from the earth." (Acts 9:8.)
A good statement concerning this physical condition as found in one of the Jewish writings is as follows:
"All the time when they had the prophetic experience, their limbs trembled, their physical strength failed them, their thoughts became confused; and the mind was left free to comprehend the vision it saw."-MAIMONIDES, The Mishneh Torah (known as the Yad Hachazakah), Book I. Edited and translated by Moses Hyamson (New York: Bloch, 1937), p. 42b.
2. He Is Supernaturally StrengthenedBSPC 133In Daniel's further testimony as to what happened to him in vision, he tells us what the angel did after he lost his natural strength: "He strengthened me." Daniel 10:18. "I was strengthened." Verse 19. "Thou has strengthened me." Verse 19. "Be strong, yea, be strong." Verse 19.
In making His servants the prophets fit channels for the transmission of the divine message, God deprives them of everything that might indicate human strength and power; then He Himself empowers them with His own strength, and so the more effectively can He use them as He desires.
3. He Has His Eyes OpenBSPC 134This is expressed twice in recording the experience of the prophet Balaam: "Whose eyes are open." Numbers 24:1 "Having his eyes open." Verse 4. This undoubtedly refers to the spiritual as well as the physical sight; both are open.
4. He Does Not BreatheBSPC 134This is an unusual physical characteristic of the prophet, and Daniel in his prophecy referred to this when he said, "Neither is there breath left in me." Daniel 10:17.
It seems that there can be very little dispute as to the wording of this text, for practically all the translations agree with the thought expressed in the foregoing text. The Douay Version gives, "moreover my breath is stopped." We are here face to face with a remarkable phenomenon, that of a man speaking and moving as the prophet did in vision, and yet with no breath in his body. We need not, however, be surprised at this; for after all, God can just as well keep a man alive without breathing as He could with breathing. This was one of the miracles wrought when the prophets of God had these "open" visions. So different were the prophets of God from the false prophets of their day. The impostors might go into a trance and be possessed of evil spirits, but the prophet of the Lord, when in vision, was a constant miracle of the wonder-working power of the mighty God of Israel. And as such he was possessed of the Divine Spirit speaking the message of God in and through him.
5. He Speaks Without BreathingBSPC 134This is listed here in this connection, but the matter has already been dealt with in the foregoing paragraph.
6. His Tongue Is Controlled by the LordBSPC 134Because the Lord has strengthened the prophet and empowered him with His own Spirit, naturally it is God who speaks through him. David declared, "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, and his word was in my tongue." 2 Samuel 23:2.
In the light of this consideration the expression in 2 Timothy has particular force and cogency. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God." 2 Timothy 3:16. Rotherham renders this, "Every Scripture is God-breathed." How significant! The prophet loses all natural strength; he is supernaturally strengthened. He ceases to breathe, yet God breathes through him. So the messages that come are "God-breathed." God takes the human vehicle and through him breathes his own message to men.
7. He Is Unconscious of His SurroundingsBSPC 135One might conclude that the prophet, in ecstatic vision, would be unconscious of his surroundings. Notice how the apostle Paul describes his own condition when in vision:
"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body I cannot tell: God knows;) how that he was caught up into paradise." 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.
As to the manifestation of these characteristics in the experience of Mrs. E. G. White in her earlier visions, note the following testimonies. One of the most comprehensive descriptions of her in vision is that given by James White, in 1868:
"Her condition in vision may be described as follows:
"1. She is utterly unconscious of everything transpiring around her, as has been proved by the most rigid tests, but views herself as removed from this world, and in the presence of heavenly beings.
"2. She does not breathe. During the entire period of her continuance in vision, which has at different times ranged from fifteen minutes to three hours, there is no breath, as has been repeatedly proved by pressing upon the chest, and by closing the mouth and nostrils.
"3. Immediately on entering vision, her muscles become rigid, and joints fixed, so far as any external force can influence them. At the same time her movements and gestures, which are frequent, are free and graceful, and cannot be hindered nor controlled by the strongest person.
"4. On coming out of vision, whether in the day-time or a well lighted room at night, all is total darkness. Her power to distinguish even the most brilliant objects, held within a few inches of the eyes, returns but gradually, sometimes not being fully established for three hours. This has continued for the past twenty years; yet her eyesight is not in the least impaired, few persons having better than she now possesses.
"She has probably had, during the past twenty-three years, between one and two hundred visions. These have been given under almost every variety of circumstance, yet maintaining a wonderful similarity; the most apparent change being, that of late years they have grown less frequent, but more comprehensive. She has been taken off in vision most frequently when bowed in prayer. Several times, while earnestly addressing the congregation, unexpectedly to herself and to all around her, she has been instantly prostrated in vision."-James White, Life Incidents in Connection With the Great Advent Movement, pp. 272, 273.
F. M. Wilcox has well expressed the matter as follows:
"The physical manifestations in many of her visions correspond to the experience of the prophets of old. We refer to the physical manifestations under which many of these visions were given, similar to the experience of Daniel and other prophets of the Old Testament.
"We do not, however, regard these physical manifestations as the principal convincing evidences of the divine call to Mrs. White. Rather, they constitute subsidiary or contributing evidences. The great proof of her call to divine ministry was shown in the answer of her work to prophetic prediction; in the spirit which characterized her ministry throughout the years. In the correspondence of her teachings to those of the Bible. In the marked manner in which she was used of God to save His church in many crises. And by the fruit her ministry bore through all the years of her earthly life and which is still appearing as a result of her labors."-The Review and Herald, January 19, 1950. BSPC 132.6 - BSPC 136.4
@MeusDogseEu He opened my eyes in 1980, thankyou. May He open yours too.
thank & praise God for this testimony and insights
I say this with all due respect
He reminds me of the church leaders in the time of jesus
Who would say they believe the scriptures and the prophets
But they crucified the messiah
Ted Wilson promised he was going to give out the great controversy
Instead he crucified the book
And gave out the Gray hooks
Please pray for the leader of the SDA church that he may be converted
And pray for me to God bless
I'm sorry for my ignorance, but what do you mean?
nowhere in the Bible does it say that Michael the archangel is the first angel.
secondly all of those points you made I know what his name means in Hebrew that means he has the might of God he is the arc angel of war he is a warrior angel so nobody can stand against him other angels can’t fight against him because it would be as if they were fighting against God,,,,that has nothing to do with Jesus that does not prove your point.
Jesus is not Michael the archangel let me tell you who Jesus was before he was born, his name was the word of God so you have the father then you have his word his voice and then you have the Holy Spirit and you can see all 3 of them there in Genesis 1
God is there his word his voice creates and you have the Holy Spirit that’s why the Bible says that all things were created by Jesus Christ he was a part of God before he was first as a man.
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I am not a Seventh-day Adventist I am a Christian
@@shellystone3211 first i don't believe that
Jesus was created and he is not and angel he is the chief of angels that's why he is called the lord of hosts
Michael the archangel is a title given to jesus by the father he has many titles
Example
Isaiah 9:6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
If you carefully study this vers it should answer all your questions
This phrase
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
It means he has the Predominates
Isaiah 9:7 KJV - Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the "LORD of hosts "will perform this
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Who is the lord of hosts?
There is many other verses
I can show you if you want
But will see if we can agree in this point
God bless
Before we proceed with the rest of your post Let me get some clarification from you?
Is Michael an angelic being or not?
If not where did he originate from?
Galatians 1:8
“But though we, or an Angel from heauen, preach any other Gospel vnto you, then that which wee haue preached vnto you, let him be accursed.”
King James Version (1611)
Please read The Broken Blueprint to see ignored letters from EGW and associates