Do you recognize that man in back? His name is Huell Babineaux. He's on our witness list. You bumped into him in the stairway. He'll testify he planted this fully charged battery on you over an hour and a half ago. Hour and 43 minutes ago. An hour and 43 minutes. Thank you, Mr. Babineaux. And you felt nothing.
He is a character the viewers see as an antagonist, yet he is absolutely right about Jimmy. In hindsight, he turned out to be right again, given the last season. It's an interesting character. He isn't without flaws either, maybe he could have taken a better way to "fix" Jimmy, but maybe there was none and he settled with it, choosing "tough love" instead, which turned out bad anyway.
@@brianviktor8212 I’m sorry but nah, what Chuck was doing was not love or some attempt to fix him at all. He genuinely saw his brother as lesser than him and it literally drove him insane seeing him as an equal. The whole point of Chicanery was showing that Chuck’s scheming wasn’t some noble attempt to uphold the law, but a vindictive plot to ruin his brother’s reputation and career. Also it’s heavily implied Jimmy wouldn’t have became Saul if Chuck just loved and supported him.
@@brianviktor8212 Ye he was an envious, lying hypocrite. He said he wanted Jimmy "to get better" yet his actions contradicted his words. Deep down he got off the fact that his younger brother was lesser than him but when he became his equal and showed just as much, if not more, potential than him he didn't like it one bit. It's no secret that Chuck was jealous of Jimmy. Jimmy had a lot of wit, a good sense of humour and was great with people - everything Chuck wanted. However, the one thing he had on Jimmy was his high authority in the law and, in his sick and twisted head, he thought if he could get Jimmy into the same career as him he'd always be his superior. Essentially, I believe he pinned his own self-hatred and self-pity on Jimmy as his ego wouldn't allow him to admit that he was envious of his brother and that he needed help.
That's what makes these writers so great. You have two opposites. An unlikeable, unrelatable, arrogant, jealous, and condescending lawyer who does the right or legal things for the wrong reasons vs. his likeable, personable brother who did the wrong things for the right reasons. It's a theory of mine that Jimmy wasn't too far-gone. If his brother showed any support and help instead of trying to sabotage Jimmy, he could've largely stayed on the straight and narrow. Of course, it's up to everyone to make the right choices no matter how much people pushed us into the wrong ones.
@@FTsingos oh most definitely. I love how Chuck and Jimmy are written and how they affect one another. They genuinely feel like siblings with heavily contrasting ideals, beliefs, and personalities. You can see their differences easily but you can sense a familial connection too with how they interact.
Nothing was more cruel than taking away the one thing Chuck lived for. Chuck was right about literally everything, and Jimmy destroyed everything he touched and always had.
People love to confuse Chuck with Howard. Howard was the one who gave Jimmy too much opportunities, not Chuck. And Howard is right, not Chuck. Because even though Howard loved to credit how Chuck is so right about Jimmy, Howard judged Jimmy way more objectively after trying to reach out to Jimmy and failed every time (something that Chuck only did once throughout the course of the show). Howard also judged Kim perfectly as well, not seeing her as an innocent victim of Jimmy like Chuck did. “And you? One of the smartest and most promising human beings I’ve ever known, and this is the life YOU CHOOSE.”
To be fair, that "this is the life you chose" line is after Kim confronts Howard for seeing her as a victim falling for Jimmy's schemes. But he realized that she was right.
Did ever Howard apologise to JImmy for playing dirty games with Chuck against him? He was just a Chuck pupper paying the price for becoming the partner of HHM after graduation
If Howard was right, he'd never gave Jimmy that many opportunities in the first place and would not die in the end. Chuck was the only person who knew Jimmy truly. Letting him becoming a lawyer would only make everyone around him suffer. Kim was never innocent, and Chuck knew it. He was the one to put Kim in the cornfield each time. When she wanted out, Chuck didn't even show any interest to keep her.
Definitely, it's one of the best portrayals of someone with a working class background who has developed a very rigid but self-righteous scaffolding to allow them to ascend into upper class success.
I remember reading something about how Chuck is the worst antagonist in BBBCS because of how real he feels. Gus is a calculating businessman drug lord. Tuco is a maniac. These are completely foreign concepts for the layman. But someone like Chuck? How condescending he is, how brutal he comes across? That is unbelievably real for so many of us. His dialogue is incredible and played spectacularly. More reasons why this show is unironically GOATed
I agree. Chuck is one of the most real characters. But he is also one who is the closest to being "right" in what he says - not always in what he does. He is spot on about Jimmy, who is like an alcolic that loves being a criminal and bending the rules to serve his needs.
Jimmy and chuck were right about each others fates. Jimmy ended up hurting everyone around him, slowly losing everyone he ever cared about. Chuck ended up dying due to his illness, alone; after shoving the one person he cared about away.
@@josemexicanmexican7602 the ending was to show that no matter how much he wants to change, he can't. He will always be saul Goodman. He tried to become Jimmy, but the convicts won't let him. He has kim; but can't ever have a decent life with her. He will always be on the other side of the fence. Sure, he is respected. Sure, he has a friend. However he will never be able to live as anyone other than a criminal.
@@ok-rn2un except he did, multiple times. He was the one to bail Jimmy out when he shatted on someone's sunroof in Philly. He took Jimmy into HHM when he decided to move back to Alberquerque.
Chuck is worse than Jimmy for saying a hurtful thing? After Jimmy took away the one thing Chuck lived for, destroyed his career, humiliated him, used and hurt everyone near him? Chuck was right. About everything. To say Jimmy’s the worse man is an understatement. He was a cancer,, and the world would have been better off without him.
tragic part of that was chuck was forcing himself to lie to jimmy. He had to lie to jimmy that he never mattered much to him so he could cut him off. hurt people hurt people, so after pushing everyone away from him he could freely kill himself knowing he wont be missed
@@dinochookproductions5190 He didn't kill himself because he knew he wouldn't be missed. He killed himself because he had nothing to live for, thanks to Jimmy.
That's objective truth though. He literally did start the firm, and Howard didn't. Not only that, but all the chairpersons and Howard tried to get rid of Chuck (and eventually did). Not saying it's that simple though. HHM was Chuck's Baby, but HHM was Howard's home. It's easy to say that Chuck built it, but it's also the case that Howard might have a case that the place means more to him since he's been there since he was a small child.
@@runthenumbers9698It doesn't change the outcome that he was willing to bring the firm down and fight the insurance all because he didn't want to get babysat, it was all about him and not the firm. Howard was right to force him into retirement since the firm's reputation was already on the line thanks to losing their client Mesa Verde and Chuck bursting out in court plus they were deliberately hiding Chuck's mental illness.
@@DaScorpionSting exactly! that makes him an über hypocrite because he told Jimmy Kim should've told the firm about Jimmy's commercial because the firm was bigger than her, that it affected many people's lives.
FACTS. It shows that they literally don't care enough to actually hate you or feel any strong emotions about you for that matter! The indifference shows that you mean nothing to them
Chuck saw himself doing everything right in life and had a lot - brilliant mind, started a succesful law firm, owned a nice house, well-respected with high prestige by colleagues, and married. Despite all that, he couldn't stand seeing Jimmy become a lawyer or being wrong. He defends his actions by saying Jimmy cons people and bends the rules for results. Although we know Jimmy is guilty of all that, Chuck won't admit his jealousy. Michael McKean said it all - Chuck made their mom proud, but Jimmy made her laugh. In the end, Chuck lost everything and thought death was his only way out. If Chuck hadn't resented Jimmy, they might've had a stronger relationship in law and life.
@@petert2481Nah Chuck had jealousy and resentment, no matter where Jimmy would move to. If Jimmy became successful as a lawyer it would literally make Chuck go more crazy and insane cause he never wanted Jimmy to be a lawyer at all. In an alternate timeline Howard would be enrolling Chuck to a mental institution.
The “I don’t want to hurt your feelings” scene shows that Chuck was the one who truly had no interest in changing. Telling Jimmy that he believes he feels genuine remorse but that it doesn’t matter followed by saying he’d respect Jimmy more if he admitted he was a bad person is text book manipulation.
Partly. I think we also forget that these two have a huge history beyond what we see on the show. How many times has Chuck bailed Jimmy out before? How many times has he heard the “I’m sorry, I regret that. Let’s move forward.” I know I’ve had family members do that same thing to me and after a while it gets absolutely tiring. That being said, Chuck was still way harsher than I would ever be and he lied. He cared a lot about Jimmy, for better or worse.
The other half being that Chuck was a major hypocrite. He tells Jimmy that he's like an alchoholic in denial only for Howard to use the exact same rhetoric in response to his pride. Jimmy does plenty of things for good reasons only to constantly fight against the current over Chuck's actions. Even the electro sensitivity may have emerged as a way for Chuck to subconsciously avoid obligations. They could have met in the middle as the McGill brothers, work to each other's strengths. Instead they both repel away from each other as personally and morally as possible.
Asking someone to participate in a confirmation bias against themselves, to engage in self-destruction, is the height of pique. So petty, so crazy, so uncontrollably wrathful, with no self-control whatsoever, and no interest in being anything but right.
Love all the replies here. This show was written so perfectly that there’s validity in so many sides of almost every character. Jimmy slipped to the ends of the earth because of his art form that was manipulation, but Chuck was an unbelievably talented emotional abuser
In an alternate timeline Jimmy becomes so successful at Davis & Main that it literally makes Chuck go more crazy and insane to the point of Howard enrolling him at a mental institution.
“So Howard, how is jimmy’s failure in Davis and main?” “Uh actually, Jimmy is doing pretty well” “What?” “Yeah, he is doing really great in there, cliffford says that Jimmy is one of the best employees he ever had, he is focused, helpful and always do his job right, and also makes everyone there happier with his charisma, cliff is even considering name him employee of the month and it’s his first month on there! Your brother has a really bright future in… uh Chuck? Are you ok?” “I am AlRiGhT hOwArD, I Am AlRiGhT”
14:40 that line is what killed Jimmy and make Saul take over It's quite depressing how Chuck was the only person keeping Jimmy from going to the deep end of becoming a literal criminal, lawyer.
I beg to disagree. Chuck didn't cause anything, he was the only one who KNEW Jimmy couldn't change and called him out for it. Even after he dies, Slippin Jimmy/Saul proved him right!
@mujtabaomar880 Jimmy had EVERY chance you could dream of to do things right. From the cushy job at Davis and Main to legit customers that he actually represented competently. He CHOSE to be a criminal.
Honestly Chuck was such a cool character with a broad and actually realistic feel to how he is, but my favorite part about him is how absolutely articulate and perfect his voice is. He could make talking about paint dry feel like a masterpiece.
Chuck died with the knowledge that their mother called out to Jimmy before she passed. He had that point scored over Jimmy. And he took it to his grave. I suspect it hurt Chuck. He probably kept it from Jimmy as he hated the fact that in her final moments she called out for the ne'er do well brother who spent his life taking shortcuts instead of the hard working, esteemed older sibling who dedicated his life to the law.
Add that to their father defending Jimmy to his grave, even when confronted by his older, honest son. It's maddening to play by the rules and work hard all your life, only to have a younger sibling coast through life lying, cheating, and even stealing from your own parents. And they still prefer them over you.
@@jaymariscal9088 Absolutely. It just makes the schemes of Jimmy an even bigger slap in the face when Chuck was gaslit into believing he messed up the Masa Verde address and all the events that followed. Not to mention Kim becoming complicit. Chuck was right yet his protestations fell on deaf ears and blind eyes, willingly blind or otherwise. Such a tragedy.
@@LifeOfRy Truly. Not to mention Jimmy forcing Chuck into retirement by raising his insurance rates. Re-watching these clips, it also hurts hearing Jimmy threaten to burn Chuck's house to the ground.
@jaymariscal9088 Jimmy wasn't the only reason for their father losing money. Yes we saw in a flashback that Jimmy stole. But in the same flashback we also get the idea that their father gave stuff away for free and was easily conned, wolves and sheep etc. But Chuck was blinded by his hate for Jimmy that he placed sole blame on him. And he's a smart guy, so my guess is he probably knew it wasn't all Jimmy but blamed him anyway, hell you see him deduce exactly what Jimmy did with the 1261 to 1216 situation. He knows his brother well enough to know it's not all Jimmy's fault. But that's not important when you're trying to put the blame squarely on Jimmy to try and "warn" Kim. TLDR: Chuck is an unreliable narrator.
@@jaymariscal9088People say Chuck was wrong, but we only see the last year of their relationship in detail. We see little bits of their past like the Chicago sunroof incident where Chuck FIGHTS ON JIMMY'S SIDE. That was before their mother died. Chuck didn't call him in the hospital because he was hurt, his mother's last word being "Jimmy" infuriated him. And remember Jimmy's party after he passes the bar? Chuck agreed to sing with Jimmy onstage in front of their friends.
The scene with Chuck and Kim was great. Really great acting by both. Kim didn't say much but her facial expressions were the perfect mix of emotions... standoffish, sympathetic, even a subtle shift to slight anger when Chuck tells her that Jimmy can't help himself but then they soften a bit when Chuck says "everyone is left picking up the pieces". I may be reading way too much into it but I nerd out over non-verbal acting.
I wonder if Kim remembers this conversation after Howard's death. If anything, I do at least get the feeling that if her and Chuck had this conversation at the end of the show she would probably agree with Chuck no matter how much she'd refuse externally to admit it.
I am pretty sure papa Mcgill would tell Chuck as soon as he mentions the missing amount. That 14k is probably the amount Jimmy himself stole independant from hand outs.
Chuck is probably my favorite of the non-Breaking Bad characters introduced in Better Call Saul. Not for anything admirable but simply because his level of venom was just too haunting to watch. And the moral complexity he brought to the table. Any scene with him, especially if it was between him and Jimmy, was TV gold.
The beauty of how these two were written in contrast to each other I believe is that neither let the other truly change. Jimmy genuinely seems to try and change his life for the better and there are times when Chuck begins to recover from his illness, but their actions make each other backslide so much. No matter how much Jimmy improves, he'll always be seen as a crook and a conman by Chuck and from the beginning it was shown that Jimmy became a lawyer for Chuck's approval, something he will never get. Thus making Jimmy backslide and do something that will cause Chuck anguish and his illness will strike up again. My fav TV show of all time
Chuck wasn't always honest with Jimmy. If he was, then he would've told Jimmy straight to his face that he wasn't hiring him for HHM. Instead, he went behind Jimmy's back. Plus he was hiding his medical issues from the insurance which led to his downfall.
It’s so Amazing to think that Bob Odenkirk made jimmy mcgill Aka saul goodman. It’s by far the best spin off of a commercial succes which turned into it’s own succes. Pure art.
There was always an underlying negativity in Chuck’s voice when addressing Jimmy’s successes as a lawyer. You could even here it when Howard told Chuck that Jimmy got a job at Davis and Main.
Chuck is lying, he always cared. He's sewercidal(can't say the real word youtube will remove) and is pushing Jimmy away, just like he pushed everyone else away. To ensure that when he ends himself, nobody will care.
And to think, so many deaths could have been averted if Chuck had taken Jimmy under his wing and given him proper guidance instead of try to hinder him every step of the way
@@jameslough6329But why did Jimmy blow that job up? Because he realized trying to fit into the near and tidy confines of a law firm weren't gonna work for him. Why does he feel that way? Largely because Chuck made him feel that way. Chuck showed him not even his own brother would accept who he was while letting him work in that profession, and that spending years trying to impress people was a lost cause.
Chuck spends all his time trying to convey to people that he’s just as upright as his father (i.e. “I was named after him”), but he doesn’t realize that he’s exactly the same as Jimmy.
Exactly the same? Not so much. Jimmy cuts corners and cons everyone from clients to judges and juries. He is also mobbed up. Chuck is an honest guy and a legal scholar and has a right to look down upon his brother, who was always trouble. That being said, whenever Jimmy tries to better himself, of course he takes the easy way out. Still, Chuck seems to enjoy his superiority and revel in his brother's mediocrity. In that sense, Jimmy is the better man because one quality Jimmy has, which Chuck lacks, is empathy.
@Frank___hassle__ "rooted in his DNA" nah, that's bs. Yeah, Chuck didn't just magically invent Jimmy's character flaws, but Jimmy clearly learned to be that way from his surroundings. There's a reason why Jimmy's (presumably) first time stealing came after his interaction with 'wolves and sheep' guy. Do you really think Jimmy's dad lost a few hundred bucks to that dude and then just the rest of 14k to Jimmy? Jimmy's dad clearly had a history of getting ripped off by people and Jimmy was influenced by that as well as his dad's inability to recognize the exploitation. Still a scummy thing of Jimmy to participate, obviously, but it's still a reductive reading to assume "lol Jimmy was just born evil".
Those first parts get harsher when Howard got ruined. Though the surprise would be to Chuck if he was still alive is that Kim was leading the charge and Jimmy was the accomplice.
"We are not finished here" breaks my heart. Chuck is in distress, he is right, he knows it. Just viewing him as an old man who wants to get the truth & trying his hardest... who wouldn't get so upset and say all that? They were gaslighting tf out of him
Someone being mean to you is no reason for you to do bad things. Jimmy had every chance in the book even w/o Chuck's blessings to make something of himself.
When I started season 1 right after finishing BB I thought how nice it was to finally see a relationship between two characters who actually care about and respect each other with no conflict, backstabbing or ulterior motives. That didn't last long
thats the intention the writers had, in s1 howard is framed as the main bad guy and chuck is portrayed as a supporting brother, until its revealed that chuck was the one pulling the strings with howard
"You'll never change your behaviour." He tried to, he really tried when he studied for the bar, worked the mail room, he got so close, and Chuck went out of his way to trip him up and kick him back to the bottom of the stairs. Chuck truly is one of the most awful human beings I've ever seen portrayed.
Chuck: "I'm better than you Jimmy!" Yet if it was Chuck instead of Jimmy out in the desert with Tuco and the skateboarders, there would be three empty three skinsuits somewhere out there by the end of the day.
Sure, but chuck would never be in that situation to begin with! The only reason jimmy was there was because chuck was right and he couldn’t control his slippin jimmy tendencies
I 100% believe Chuck made Saul what he is in the show and it's amazing to see how we get the initial stuck up, but genuine in his convictions Chucks into such a hateful and manipulative person. Both actors, Michael McKean and Bob Odenkirk did an amazing job portrayer their characters.
Yes, and that’s why they never reconciled.I honestly can’t understand why people cast Chuck as the villain in their relationship. Kim left Jimmy because she knew Jimmy could never change who and what he was..
“See that’s your problem Jimmy, thinking the ends justify the means and you’re forever shocked when it all blows up in your face” Kind of hypocritical when you consider the things he’s done
What I love about Chuck is that as bad and cruel he is, it’s so hard to not at least see where he is coming from. Jimmy is a criminal, and his schemes hurt so many people and while he may regret his actions, he doesn’t change them. Though Chuck is no better, as a cruel and jealous stickler who preaches that he wants Jimmy to get better, but trips him when he does. Two brothers who deep down love each other, but keep hurting each other and never being able to take the high road.
The scene when Jimmy went out to get a sandwich and then while he was gone his mother was died, and when she called out for Jimmy... and then Jimmy comes back and asked Chuck what happened, and Chuck says that she's gone, and when Jimmy asked Chuck, " did she say anything?"... the way Chuck shrugs and just says "No", is devastating... and soooo foreshadowing. The sibling rivalry was just such a huge factor in their storyline
One of the best depictions of the pain that OCD can cause. When I try to reason with someone about what makes me uncomfortable, I feel a lot like Chuck
in a fictional universe full of such great acting performances, i often overlook michael mckean's work here. it is so good and fits in tonally so well with the greater BCS/BB canon.
8:08 Jesus, the absolute venom in the “Ernie shut up” and then the face he makes is just perfect. Can’t believe Michael McKean never won an Emmy, let alone the entire show itself.
I love the tiny detail that chuck expects Jimmy to break in at night and Jimmy breaks in the afternoon. Chuck knows Jimmy at his core but not all the way threw..
You can actually hear jimmy's car tire screech after rushing and putting the brakes in the background right after Chuck says he will break in at night lol...
He thinks he'll sneak in under the radar like a crook. Instead, he just smashes in in rage, an emotion Chuck didn't foresee because Jimmy had never shown it to him. He thinks he understands everything about Jimmy when the truth is far simpler
I cant even describe with words how well Michael McKean filled the role of Chuck. Unbelievable performance, couldn't imagine ANYBODY else playing Chuck.
Completely unrelated to the video and the character, but I can't be the only one who would pay money to have Michael McKean reading bedtime stories or novels for hours on end right?
Chuck, while he was excessively harsh at times and could’ve handled things better, was right about Jimmy. Chuck had his role to play in his moral corruption, but ultimately it Jimmy’s own actions that led him to where he was. Jimmy chose to take things further and act on his worst instincts even when Chuck was out of the picture. Even Chuck had the self-awareness to realize he had to change following the Chicanery incident. In a show with as morally gray characters as this show, it’s surprising to see how Chuck is often perceived as this being of pure toxicity and jealousy. If Jimmy wasn’t the protagonist we’d probably be seeing this differently.
He was half right, only because yes he did see Jimmy's patterns, but he never gave Jimmy the room space or opportunities to change his ways, thus solidifying Jimmy's decent to Saul Goodman. Chuck wanted Jimmy to change, but wouldn't ever let him, without keeping him down with condescension and cruelty.
@@kdr129Yep, and he ruined his own marriage and got his mental illness thanks to jealousy and resentment to Jimmy hell he even manipulated Ernesto to get to Jimmy.
@@kdr129 The thing is, Chuck DIDN'T want Jimmy to change, that was the whole point, he could not stand Jimmy being on the same level as him, he needed Jimmy to be under him
@@hotelhotelhotel Chuck didn’t really benefit from Jimmy’s self-destructive behaviors in any way. I think his jealousy stems from the fact that he couldn’t stand Jimmy being his level while he’s out cutting corners and conning people. In Chuck’s mind, as long as he kept up his bad habits, Jimmy wasn’t deserving of being on the same level.
@@hotelhotelhotel That is not true. I think he did want Jimmy to change but thought it was impossible for Jimmy to do so. If Jimmy had kept the Davis and Main job, and not screwed it up like he did through cutting corners, I legitimately think Chuck would have seen him as his equal and treated him with more respect. Jimmy's own bad choices had just as much of an impact on his transformation into Saul Goodman as Chuck's resentment
Chucks’ ‘allergy’ to electricity and attitude torwards Jimmy and everyone else could be attributed to Acute Paranoia. The writers did an amazing job , and Michael McKean does an amazing job at portraying it
growing up is realizing chuck was right in many ways, he still lost his mind over inner jealousy, trauma from childhood, but he actually was right about most of the things he criticized jimmy over
@@yurichtube1162 he was, but he was also stubborn and never backed down from doing things off the books, which after chuck takes a severe turn for the worse as he gets involved with the cartel
@@BruhMoment-ct5ij look at season 1, Jimmy was being a very honest lawyer. He was already changed. He wanted to proof his worth to Chuck, to be like him. Chuck never gave him the chance. "The one denied love by the villagers will burn down the village to feel its warmth". He became destructive, because he was told by Chuck that is all he was.
@@yurichtube1162He pulls off the skateboard scam in the first few episodes! Jimmy was absolutely not a good person lmao! Good people don’t pull scams to attract clients
Chuck was mean to Jimmy, but at least he didn't make him pay for his cremation
Lmao
Chuck was right. If Jimmy abuses his power people get hurt. And peolpe got hurt, and Jimmy went to jail in 2010. 😀
Still, it's sad to see (his relationship with) his brother go up in flames💀
Chuck is such an upstanding guy. He sent himself on a trip to Belize, never bothering anyone else.
W Saul
I stopped caring about The Emmy's when Michael McKean wasn't recognised for his performance in Chicanery. What a sick joke!
You should have stopped them when you had the chance.
@@Be4u And me, I have to stop them, I-
Chuck - "Jimmy, is there's something in your pocket?"
Chuck - "is it an Emmy?"
Jimmy - "no chuck, it's a cellphone battery"
Do you recognize that man in back?
His name is Huell Babineaux.
He's on our witness list.
You bumped into him in the stairway.
He'll testify he planted this fully charged battery on you over an hour and a half ago.
Hour and 43 minutes ago.
An hour and 43 minutes.
Thank you, Mr. Babineaux.
And you felt nothing.
He must have defecated through the judges sunroof.
'I don't want to hurt your feelings'
Proceeds to say the most hurtful thing possible
Hee faurted awl oavur Jhymmie's foarhedd
“I don’t want to hurt your feelings. I want to emotionally decimate you.”
Right??@@Taco_Raider
@@m.n.executor1902 Yuhss
@@Taco_Raiderman where did u learn to spell/speak
I think it's an absolute testament to the writing how they created such a despicable character without having him break a single law.
He is a character the viewers see as an antagonist, yet he is absolutely right about Jimmy. In hindsight, he turned out to be right again, given the last season. It's an interesting character. He isn't without flaws either, maybe he could have taken a better way to "fix" Jimmy, but maybe there was none and he settled with it, choosing "tough love" instead, which turned out bad anyway.
@@brianviktor8212 he's still an antagonist to Jimmy lmao.
@@brianviktor8212 I’m sorry but nah, what Chuck was doing was not love or some attempt to fix him at all. He genuinely saw his brother as lesser than him and it literally drove him insane seeing him as an equal. The whole point of Chicanery was showing that Chuck’s scheming wasn’t some noble attempt to uphold the law, but a vindictive plot to ruin his brother’s reputation and career. Also it’s heavily implied Jimmy wouldn’t have became Saul if Chuck just loved and supported him.
It helps connect to Mike's dialogue about how there are good criminals and bad "honest" citizens.
@@brianviktor8212 Ye he was an envious, lying hypocrite. He said he wanted Jimmy "to get better" yet his actions contradicted his words. Deep down he got off the fact that his younger brother was lesser than him but when he became his equal and showed just as much, if not more, potential than him he didn't like it one bit. It's no secret that Chuck was jealous of Jimmy. Jimmy had a lot of wit, a good sense of humour and was great with people - everything Chuck wanted. However, the one thing he had on Jimmy was his high authority in the law and, in his sick and twisted head, he thought if he could get Jimmy into the same career as him he'd always be his superior. Essentially, I believe he pinned his own self-hatred and self-pity on Jimmy as his ego wouldn't allow him to admit that he was envious of his brother and that he needed help.
Chuck may have done things legally but he was more cruel than Jimmy. You can feel the venom in his words
His last speech to Jimmy was just him lying to himself. How he actually felt about him was shown in the final episode of the show.
That's what makes these writers so great. You have two opposites. An unlikeable, unrelatable, arrogant, jealous, and condescending lawyer who does the right or legal things for the wrong reasons vs. his likeable, personable brother who did the wrong things for the right reasons. It's a theory of mine that Jimmy wasn't too far-gone. If his brother showed any support and help instead of trying to sabotage Jimmy, he could've largely stayed on the straight and narrow. Of course, it's up to everyone to make the right choices no matter how much people pushed us into the wrong ones.
@@FTsingos oh most definitely. I love how Chuck and Jimmy are written and how they affect one another. They genuinely feel like siblings with heavily contrasting ideals, beliefs, and personalities. You can see their differences easily but you can sense a familial connection too with how they interact.
Are you sh*tting me? They are both cruel awful people.
Nothing was more cruel than taking away the one thing Chuck lived for. Chuck was right about literally everything, and Jimmy destroyed everything he touched and always had.
"Ernesto, don't treat me like a child" Chuck says to Ernesto who he treats like a child
to be fair, Ernie is a pretty simple dude
@@ThePatank to be fair, I'd emotionally checkout of any interaction I'd have with Chuck as well. Keep it simple, keep it plain, don't bother trying.
Ernie looks like a high school so I mean I imagine that’s not a foreign concept for him.
@@giannisfan1067 Yes. Ernie looks exactly like a high school.
@@giannisfan1067this is the moment Ernie turned into a high school.
Michael McKean delivered the performance of a lifetime
Everyone on this show did. Everyone. No exceptions. Perfect casting & acting.
Very true
I thought he was played by Hans Zimmer
I say his best performance was as Lenny in Laverne & Shirley and I will die on that hill
Michael McKean had a pretty big career before BCS, Laverne & Shirley, This Is Spinal Tap, Clue, Etc. He was even nominated for an Oscar.
People love to confuse Chuck with Howard.
Howard was the one who gave Jimmy too much opportunities, not Chuck. And Howard is right, not Chuck. Because even though Howard loved to credit how Chuck is so right about Jimmy, Howard judged Jimmy way more objectively after trying to reach out to Jimmy and failed every time (something that Chuck only did once throughout the course of the show). Howard also judged Kim perfectly as well, not seeing her as an innocent victim of Jimmy like Chuck did.
“And you? One of the smartest and most promising human beings I’ve ever known, and this is the life YOU CHOOSE.”
I don't think Howard was right either. Howard gave Jimmy too much credit and Chuck didn't give him enough
To be fair, that "this is the life you chose" line is after Kim confronts Howard for seeing her as a victim falling for Jimmy's schemes. But he realized that she was right.
Howard was a damn saint. A casualty of the McGill bullshit.
Did ever Howard apologise to JImmy for playing dirty games with Chuck against him? He was just a Chuck pupper paying the price for becoming the partner of HHM after graduation
If Howard was right, he'd never gave Jimmy that many opportunities in the first place and would not die in the end. Chuck was the only person who knew Jimmy truly. Letting him becoming a lawyer would only make everyone around him suffer. Kim was never innocent, and Chuck knew it. He was the one to put Kim in the cornfield each time. When she wanted out, Chuck didn't even show any interest to keep her.
The scriptwriting is just next level. It feels so real, so progressive and with so much history
Definitely, it's one of the best portrayals of someone with a working class background who has developed a very rigid but self-righteous scaffolding to allow them to ascend into upper class success.
@@Supahpowahnerd890And one of the best portrayals of mental illness.
@@TaxingIsThievingi’m not crazy!!
i wonder how they come up with Chuck character for Saul's back story, only Vince and Peter could do this!!!!
If only we had these writers for She-Hulk
I remember reading something about how Chuck is the worst antagonist in BBBCS because of how real he feels. Gus is a calculating businessman drug lord. Tuco is a maniac. These are completely foreign concepts for the layman. But someone like Chuck? How condescending he is, how brutal he comes across? That is unbelievably real for so many of us. His dialogue is incredible and played spectacularly. More reasons why this show is unironically GOATed
i like this comment. i kind of felt the same way about it and you just put it in words.
BCS > GoT
Tuco was fkn awesome in his role. he took control of it, that's for sure. But a lot of good actors in the show., tbh.
I agree. Chuck is one of the most real characters. But he is also one who is the closest to being "right" in what he says - not always in what he does. He is spot on about Jimmy, who is like an alcolic that loves being a criminal and bending the rules to serve his needs.
Same with Umbridge being the scariest antagonist in HP
Have some more chicken, have some more pie, it doesn't matter if it's boiled or fried
-Chuck McGill
Just eat it! Eat it!
@@starguy2718 DON'T YOU MAKE ME REPEAT IT!
Jimmy and chuck were right about each others fates. Jimmy ended up hurting everyone around him, slowly losing everyone he ever cared about. Chuck ended up dying due to his illness, alone; after shoving the one person he cared about away.
2 sides of the same coin
Jimmy at least has one silver lining: he managed to regain Kim's respect by the very end.
Jimmy want alone in the end. He went to prison where he's highly respected and has frequent visits from his wife. He's doing better than most of us.
@@josemexicanmexican7602 the ending was to show that no matter how much he wants to change, he can't. He will always be saul Goodman. He tried to become Jimmy, but the convicts won't let him. He has kim; but can't ever have a decent life with her. He will always be on the other side of the fence. Sure, he is respected. Sure, he has a friend. However he will never be able to live as anyone other than a criminal.
The McGill family - a perfect case for the importance of mental health.
And the perfect example of toxicity in the family
@@eduardocelis6710 It's tough love, Jimmy just refused to accept it and became the real toxic within the family.
@KniGht1st1 it's not love, Chuck always looked down on Jimmy and envied him
@@ok-rn2un except he did, multiple times. He was the one to bail Jimmy out when he shatted on someone's sunroof in Philly. He took Jimmy into HHM when he decided to move back to Alberquerque.
it all comes from parents, most of chucks obbsesion came from his parents loving Jimmy more
I couldn't really see Chuck as an antagonist until, "I Don't Want To Hurt Your Feelings..." That still gives me chills.
The moment I stayed by my argument, Chuck is worse than Jimmy.
Chuck is worse than Jimmy for saying a hurtful thing? After Jimmy took away the one thing Chuck lived for, destroyed his career, humiliated him, used and hurt everyone near him? Chuck was right. About everything. To say Jimmy’s the worse man is an understatement. He was a cancer,, and the world would have been better off without him.
tragic part of that was chuck was forcing himself to lie to jimmy. He had to lie to jimmy that he never mattered much to him so he could cut him off. hurt people hurt people, so after pushing everyone away from him he could freely kill himself knowing he wont be missed
@@dinochookproductions5190 He didn't kill himself because he knew he wouldn't be missed. He killed himself because he had nothing to live for, thanks to Jimmy.
@@SAK1855don’t just blame jimmy, it was both of them that ruined each other. each of their actions influenced the others leading to the worst.
Left out the line on Howard, “This is my firm, I built it!” Shows that Chuck doesn’t respect him as a partner and probably never has.
Tbf the firm literally was built by hamlins sr. (Howard’s dad) and Chuck, Howard came on later as partner
That's objective truth though. He literally did start the firm, and Howard didn't. Not only that, but all the chairpersons and Howard tried to get rid of Chuck (and eventually did).
Not saying it's that simple though. HHM was Chuck's Baby, but HHM was Howard's home. It's easy to say that Chuck built it, but it's also the case that Howard might have a case that the place means more to him since he's been there since he was a small child.
@@runthenumbers9698It doesn't change the outcome that he was willing to bring the firm down and fight the insurance all because he didn't want to get babysat, it was all about him and not the firm. Howard was right to force him into retirement since the firm's reputation was already on the line thanks to losing their client Mesa Verde and Chuck bursting out in court plus they were deliberately hiding Chuck's mental illness.
@@DaScorpionSting exactly! that makes him an über hypocrite because he told Jimmy Kim should've told the firm about Jimmy's commercial because the firm was bigger than her, that it affected many people's lives.
The way chuck treated Howard was despicable. Made him take all the heat and made jimmy think it was Howard when it was really him, soooo cowardly.
3:15 even small things like this, "my father- our father", really brilliant and subtle ways of showing his disdain for Jimmy.
Howard: "I'm just suggesting we be more open-minded"
Those words will come back to haunt him
Too soon LMAO
There’s really no need…
Huh? I don't get it. It went in one ear and out the other.😁
@@Jarsia And onto the wall and coffee table... and.. floor. The carpet, too. :(
Ironically horrible the way those words came back to him.
When it comes to someone you love, having their indifference is so much more devastating than having their hate.
FACTS. It shows that they literally don't care enough to actually hate you or feel any strong emotions about you for that matter! The indifference shows that you mean nothing to them
Shinji could definitely relate
i love the complexity of every character in these series
The fact that it wasn't black and white like other shows
I missed the "you're not a real lawyer" dialogue from S1 on this one
Slippin’ Jimmy I can handle just fine, but Slippin’ Jimmy with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun!
The law is sacred!!!
Chuck saw himself doing everything right in life and had a lot - brilliant mind, started a succesful law firm, owned a nice house, well-respected with high prestige by colleagues, and married. Despite all that, he couldn't stand seeing Jimmy become a lawyer or being wrong. He defends his actions by saying Jimmy cons people and bends the rules for results. Although we know Jimmy is guilty of all that, Chuck won't admit his jealousy. Michael McKean said it all - Chuck made their mom proud, but Jimmy made her laugh. In the end, Chuck lost everything and thought death was his only way out. If Chuck hadn't resented Jimmy, they might've had a stronger relationship in law and life.
@@petert2481Nah Chuck had jealousy and resentment, no matter where Jimmy would move to. If Jimmy became successful as a lawyer it would literally make Chuck go more crazy and insane cause he never wanted Jimmy to be a lawyer at all. In an alternate timeline Howard would be enrolling Chuck to a mental institution.
imagine if jimmy and charles teamed up to help with legal battles
@@petert2481It would've been better if Jimmy had his own goals in life instead of copying his older brother all the time.
Truly the speech of all time Bravo Eince!
@@Sandux930 that wouldn't work, Chuck play by the rules while Jimmy pokes holes in the system
The “I don’t want to hurt your feelings” scene shows that Chuck was the one who truly had no interest in changing. Telling Jimmy that he believes he feels genuine remorse but that it doesn’t matter followed by saying he’d respect Jimmy more if he admitted he was a bad person is text book manipulation.
Facts
Partly. I think we also forget that these two have a huge history beyond what we see on the show. How many times has Chuck bailed Jimmy out before? How many times has he heard the “I’m sorry, I regret that. Let’s move forward.” I know I’ve had family members do that same thing to me and after a while it gets absolutely tiring. That being said, Chuck was still way harsher than I would ever be and he lied. He cared a lot about Jimmy, for better or worse.
The other half being that Chuck was a major hypocrite. He tells Jimmy that he's like an alchoholic in denial only for Howard to use the exact same rhetoric in response to his pride. Jimmy does plenty of things for good reasons only to constantly fight against the current over Chuck's actions. Even the electro sensitivity may have emerged as a way for Chuck to subconsciously avoid obligations. They could have met in the middle as the McGill brothers, work to each other's strengths. Instead they both repel away from each other as personally and morally as possible.
Asking someone to participate in a confirmation bias against themselves, to engage in self-destruction, is the height of pique. So petty, so crazy, so uncontrollably wrathful, with no self-control whatsoever, and no interest in being anything but right.
Love all the replies here. This show was written so perfectly that there’s validity in so many sides of almost every character. Jimmy slipped to the ends of the earth because of his art form that was manipulation, but Chuck was an unbelievably talented emotional abuser
In an alternate timeline Jimmy becomes so successful at Davis & Main that it literally makes Chuck go more crazy and insane to the point of Howard enrolling him at a mental institution.
😂
Probably would’ve been the best outcome for them all tbh…
Forget that, he'd have a brain aneurysm
“So Howard, how is jimmy’s failure in Davis and main?”
“Uh actually, Jimmy is doing pretty well”
“What?”
“Yeah, he is doing really great in there, cliffford says that Jimmy is one of the best employees he ever had, he is focused, helpful and always do his job right, and also makes everyone there happier with his charisma, cliff is even considering name him employee of the month and it’s his first month on there! Your brother has a really bright future in… uh Chuck? Are you ok?”
“I am AlRiGhT hOwArD, I Am AlRiGhT”
14:40 that line is what killed Jimmy and make Saul take over
It's quite depressing how Chuck was the only person keeping Jimmy from going to the deep end of becoming a literal criminal, lawyer.
I beg to disagree. Chuck didn't cause anything, he was the only one who KNEW Jimmy couldn't change and called him out for it. Even after he dies, Slippin Jimmy/Saul proved him right!
Well it's not like jimmy gets a fair chance to it's what happens when you aren't left with any other choice
@mujtabaomar880 Jimmy had EVERY chance you could dream of to do things right. From the cushy job at Davis and Main to legit customers that he actually represented competently. He CHOSE to be a criminal.
@@machine525 that I can agree with he shot himself on the foot with that one
But I'm not gonna justify chuck being in the right both of them did wrong
@@machine525🤓☝️
Honestly Chuck was such a cool character with a broad and actually realistic feel to how he is, but my favorite part about him is how absolutely articulate and perfect his voice is. He could make talking about paint dry feel like a masterpiece.
"You never mattered all that much to me" is the biggest lie Chuck has ever told.
love how you can hear Chuck's space blanket under his suit as he has a heart to heart with Kim
That was genius. I was laughing
Chuck died with the knowledge that their mother called out to Jimmy before she passed.
He had that point scored over Jimmy. And he took it to his grave.
I suspect it hurt Chuck. He probably kept it from Jimmy as he hated the fact that in her final moments she called out for the ne'er do well brother who spent his life taking shortcuts instead of the hard working, esteemed older sibling who dedicated his life to the law.
Add that to their father defending Jimmy to his grave, even when confronted by his older, honest son. It's maddening to play by the rules and work hard all your life, only to have a younger sibling coast through life lying, cheating, and even stealing from your own parents. And they still prefer them over you.
@@jaymariscal9088 Absolutely. It just makes the schemes of Jimmy an even bigger slap in the face when Chuck was gaslit into believing he messed up the Masa Verde address and all the events that followed. Not to mention Kim becoming complicit. Chuck was right yet his protestations fell on deaf ears and blind eyes, willingly blind or otherwise. Such a tragedy.
@@LifeOfRy Truly. Not to mention Jimmy forcing Chuck into retirement by raising his insurance rates. Re-watching these clips, it also hurts hearing Jimmy threaten to burn Chuck's house to the ground.
@jaymariscal9088 Jimmy wasn't the only reason for their father losing money. Yes we saw in a flashback that Jimmy stole. But in the same flashback we also get the idea that their father gave stuff away for free and was easily conned, wolves and sheep etc. But Chuck was blinded by his hate for Jimmy that he placed sole blame on him. And he's a smart guy, so my guess is he probably knew it wasn't all Jimmy but blamed him anyway, hell you see him deduce exactly what Jimmy did with the 1261 to 1216 situation. He knows his brother well enough to know it's not all Jimmy's fault. But that's not important when you're trying to put the blame squarely on Jimmy to try and "warn" Kim.
TLDR: Chuck is an unreliable narrator.
@@jaymariscal9088People say Chuck was wrong, but we only see the last year of their relationship in detail. We see little bits of their past like the Chicago sunroof incident where Chuck FIGHTS ON JIMMY'S SIDE. That was before their mother died.
Chuck didn't call him in the hospital because he was hurt, his mother's last word being "Jimmy" infuriated him.
And remember Jimmy's party after he passes the bar? Chuck agreed to sing with Jimmy onstage in front of their friends.
9:07 "you think a man just happens to fall like that?"
No! He orchestrated it. Jimmy!
@@zachkahn3381He defecated through a sunroof!
HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUN ROOF
And I saved him! Ah I shouldnt have to
Okbuddychicanery is leaking
The scene with Chuck and Kim was great. Really great acting by both. Kim didn't say much but her facial expressions were the perfect mix of emotions... standoffish, sympathetic, even a subtle shift to slight anger when Chuck tells her that Jimmy can't help himself but then they soften a bit when Chuck says "everyone is left picking up the pieces". I may be reading way too much into it but I nerd out over non-verbal acting.
I wonder if Kim remembers this conversation after Howard's death. If anything, I do at least get the feeling that if her and Chuck had this conversation at the end of the show she would probably agree with Chuck no matter how much she'd refuse externally to admit it.
chuck didnt realize that maybe his fathers "heart of gold" lead to him giving out $14,000 of handouts to scammers lol
Yeah he didn't tell the whole story
One is giving it out. The other is your own son stealing from you.
Yeah, their dad handing out money and supplies to bust outs on the street, that was a good part of it why the business was ran to the ground
Not that Jimmy stealing from his father came only after his father was scammed over and over
I am pretty sure papa Mcgill would tell Chuck as soon as he mentions the missing amount. That 14k is probably the amount Jimmy himself stole independant from hand outs.
When Chuck hit his head and it cut to Jimmys perspective I felt so unsettled. You could feel everything Jimmy was feeling it was almost haunting
And Jimmy would see that happen again when Lalo killed Howard.
“My dad…Our dad” Tells everything you need to know.
Chuck was the Walter of BCS. The know-it-all that caused all kinds of problems and denied it was his fault.
Ong, you got all.
@@jpdr7081naw he’s nowhere near as destructive or malicious as Walter😂that’s actually an insane take.
Walter admits it. Chuck does not.
@@raymondsims7042 He created Saul Goodman
@@raymondsims7042 Without Chuck, no Saul Goodman. Without Saul Goodman, no Heisenberg
Years will pass,and this show still absolutely top tier of what television is meant to be.
Chuck was one of the greatest original characters of BCS
Chuck is probably my favorite of the non-Breaking Bad characters introduced in Better Call Saul.
Not for anything admirable but simply because his level of venom was just too haunting to watch. And the moral complexity he brought to the table. Any scene with him, especially if it was between him and Jimmy, was TV gold.
Agreed chuck was an absolutely phenomenal character
"No wonder Rebecca left you. What took her so long?"
That hits like nothing else
The beauty of how these two were written in contrast to each other I believe is that neither let the other truly change. Jimmy genuinely seems to try and change his life for the better and there are times when Chuck begins to recover from his illness, but their actions make each other backslide so much. No matter how much Jimmy improves, he'll always be seen as a crook and a conman by Chuck and from the beginning it was shown that Jimmy became a lawyer for Chuck's approval, something he will never get. Thus making Jimmy backslide and do something that will cause Chuck anguish and his illness will strike up again. My fav TV show of all time
Lol Chuck trying to depose the copier guy while he does his busywork is hilarious to me 😂
It’s so funny because he lacks the social genial Gene that Jimmy has. He had book smarts but he had zero street smarts.
@@clath2823Yep the dinner scene when Jimmy tells a joke and when chuck does it not the same reaction that his wife gave to Jimmy.
@@clath2823 right like using lawyer talk out of nowhere, then lance just parrots him “on or about..?” 🤣
2:09 "what pointing out her one mistake was bealiving in you" most hurtful thing he said
How you not gonna include "You're not a real lawyer"?
Jimmy hurts people by being dishonest. Chuck hurts people by being honest.
Being honest to dishonest people hurts them. That’s their fault, not yours.
Chuck wasn't always honest with Jimmy. If he was, then he would've told Jimmy straight to his face that he wasn't hiring him for HHM. Instead, he went behind Jimmy's back. Plus he was hiding his medical issues from the insurance which led to his downfall.
You can be honest but that doesn’t make you right. And Chuck is plenty wrong.
It’s so Amazing to think that Bob Odenkirk made jimmy mcgill Aka saul goodman. It’s by far the best spin off of a commercial succes which turned into it’s own succes. Pure art.
How do you forget 109 Pimento, "Slippin' Jimmy with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun."
You... you passed the bar?
There was always an underlying negativity in Chuck’s voice when addressing Jimmy’s successes as a lawyer.
You could even here it when Howard told Chuck that Jimmy got a job at Davis and Main.
I will never understand how people can say Chuck is a good person when 14:45 exists.
Chuck is lying, he always cared.
He's sewercidal(can't say the real word youtube will remove) and is pushing Jimmy away, just like he pushed everyone else away. To ensure that when he ends himself, nobody will care.
And to think, so many deaths could have been averted if Chuck had taken Jimmy under his wing and given him proper guidance instead of try to hinder him every step of the way
He didn't try to hinder him when he got the prestigious Davis and Main job and screwed it up intentionally. That was ALL Jimmy!
@@jameslough6329 He knew Jimmy would self-destruct on his own. He didn't need to step in.
@@jameslough6329But why did Jimmy blow that job up? Because he realized trying to fit into the near and tidy confines of a law firm weren't gonna work for him. Why does he feel that way? Largely because Chuck made him feel that way. Chuck showed him not even his own brother would accept who he was while letting him work in that profession, and that spending years trying to impress people was a lost cause.
Chuck spends all his time trying to convey to people that he’s just as upright as his father (i.e. “I was named after him”), but he doesn’t realize that he’s exactly the same as Jimmy.
Exactly the same? Not so much. Jimmy cuts corners and cons everyone from clients to judges and juries. He is also mobbed up. Chuck is an honest guy and a legal scholar and has a right to look down upon his brother, who was always trouble. That being said, whenever Jimmy tries to better himself, of course he takes the easy way out. Still, Chuck seems to enjoy his superiority and revel in his brother's mediocrity. In that sense, Jimmy is the better man because one quality Jimmy has, which Chuck lacks, is empathy.
"I don't wanna hurt your feelings,"
proceeds to hurt his feelings so deeply that it ruins his life
Chuck may have been a horrible brother. But you can’t deny he was right in the end, even if he contributed to Jimmy’s downward spiral.
He did everything he could think of to keep Jimmy on the straight and narrow path. Jimmy's choices and shortcomings are entirely his own.
Chuck is a sort of parable that being right isn't quite everything
@Frank___hassle__ "rooted in his DNA" nah, that's bs. Yeah, Chuck didn't just magically invent Jimmy's character flaws, but Jimmy clearly learned to be that way from his surroundings. There's a reason why Jimmy's (presumably) first time stealing came after his interaction with 'wolves and sheep' guy. Do you really think Jimmy's dad lost a few hundred bucks to that dude and then just the rest of 14k to Jimmy? Jimmy's dad clearly had a history of getting ripped off by people and Jimmy was influenced by that as well as his dad's inability to recognize the exploitation. Still a scummy thing of Jimmy to participate, obviously, but it's still a reductive reading to assume "lol Jimmy was just born evil".
Opposite Jimmy proved him wrong at the end.
Me when I haven't seen the finale
Those first parts get harsher when Howard got ruined. Though the surprise would be to Chuck if he was still alive is that Kim was leading the charge and Jimmy was the accomplice.
A lot of people seem to ignore that Kim was even worse than Jimmy in s6
@@hotelhotelhotel
"I was having too much fun!"
Chuck is the type of guy you can hate with all your might and yet still have no leverage against because they have barely any noticeable imperfections
Chuck was right. The best character in Better Call Saul.
"We are not finished here" breaks my heart. Chuck is in distress, he is right, he knows it. Just viewing him as an old man who wants to get the truth & trying his hardest... who wouldn't get so upset and say all that? They were gaslighting tf out of him
15 minutes of Chuck insulting Jimmy you can’t tell me he wasn’t the villain of the show
Not so much a villain, more of an antagonist. He was right in everything he said. Jimmy fits the role of villain more than Chuck.
Someone being mean to you is no reason for you to do bad things. Jimmy had every chance in the book even w/o Chuck's blessings to make something of himself.
@@ClintonKE how did he, if chuck impeded him every chance he got?
@isaakfoley1861 and for right reasons.
@@argc lol, what was the reason to not take the sandpiper case?
The printer guy must have felt awful about lying when Chuck almost nearly got a concussion and died.
I can't be the only one who liked chuck in season 1 and hated/loved him as an antagonist in season 2 and 3
When I started season 1 right after finishing BB I thought how nice it was to finally see a relationship between two characters who actually care about and respect each other with no conflict, backstabbing or ulterior motives. That didn't last long
@@nickchambers3935 it didn't did it
thats the intention the writers had, in s1 howard is framed as the main bad guy and chuck is portrayed as a supporting brother, until its revealed that chuck was the one pulling the strings with howard
My favourite part of the show is when Chuck said "it's Chuckin' time" and Chucked all over the place
Truly one of the moments of the show
Its in S02E13?
*sigh* CHUCK BLAST
“Don’t do this Jimmy… I’m going Chuck Mode”
I think that Chuck (Micheal McKean) is one of the Best Actors that have ever Graced the screen!!
"You'll never change your behaviour."
He tried to, he really tried when he studied for the bar, worked the mail room, he got so close, and Chuck went out of his way to trip him up and kick him back to the bottom of the stairs.
Chuck truly is one of the most awful human beings I've ever seen portrayed.
Never knew at 10:17 u can hear jimmy’s car outside rushing
Wow! this show never misses
…”or I’ll burn this whole fcking house to the ground.” - Jimmy 11:40 Foreshadowing 😢
_"People can't ever change"_ is such a weak mindset. Chuck lived in the past.
Chuck: "I'm better than you Jimmy!"
Yet if it was Chuck instead of Jimmy out in the desert with Tuco and the skateboarders, there would be three empty three skinsuits somewhere out there by the end of the day.
Sure, but chuck would never be in that situation to begin with!
The only reason jimmy was there was because chuck was right and he couldn’t control his slippin jimmy tendencies
I 100% believe Chuck made Saul what he is in the show and it's amazing to see how we get the initial stuck up, but genuine in his convictions Chucks into such a hateful and manipulative person. Both actors, Michael McKean and Bob Odenkirk did an amazing job portrayer their characters.
Michael McKean is such a phenomenal actor. Simply one of the best ever.
ugh when he told him he never mattered to him after jimmy opened his heart ..😞💔
Did you draw that Chao pfp?
“You never really mattered all that much to me” is one of the most cruel things a brother can say to another.
Looking back on it, I wish the writers hadn't killed off Chuck, at least not so early, I feel the show was missing something after he was gone.
chuck really was the one that knew jimmy best
Yes, and that’s why they never reconciled.I honestly can’t understand why people cast Chuck as the villain in their relationship. Kim left Jimmy because she knew Jimmy could never change who and what he was..
“See that’s your problem Jimmy, thinking the ends justify the means and you’re forever shocked when it all blows up in your face”
Kind of hypocritical when you consider the things he’s done
What I love about Chuck is that as bad and cruel he is, it’s so hard to not at least see where he is coming from. Jimmy is a criminal, and his schemes hurt so many people and while he may regret his actions, he doesn’t change them.
Though Chuck is no better, as a cruel and jealous stickler who preaches that he wants Jimmy to get better, but trips him when he does.
Two brothers who deep down love each other, but keep hurting each other and never being able to take the high road.
The scene when Jimmy went out to get a sandwich and then while he was gone his mother was died, and when she called out for Jimmy... and then Jimmy comes back and asked Chuck what happened, and Chuck says that she's gone, and when Jimmy asked Chuck, " did she say anything?"... the way Chuck shrugs and just says "No", is devastating... and soooo foreshadowing.
The sibling rivalry was just such a huge factor in their storyline
One of the best depictions of the pain that OCD can cause. When I try to reason with someone about what makes me uncomfortable, I feel a lot like Chuck
Chuck is the Grinch of Albuquerque
in a fictional universe full of such great acting performances, i often overlook michael mckean's work here. it is so good and fits in tonally so well with the greater BCS/BB canon.
couldnt be precious jimmy
8:08 Jesus, the absolute venom in the “Ernie shut up” and then the face he makes is just perfect. Can’t believe Michael McKean never won an Emmy, let alone the entire show itself.
CHICANERY
The actor who played Chuck is incredible
$14k over a decade of would be around 140 dollars a MONTH. I’m sure it didn’t help but there’s no way that was the sole reason they lost the business.
um..... check your math again.... it would be 116.67 per month
Love the space blanket sound effects.
I love the tiny detail that chuck expects Jimmy to break in at night and Jimmy breaks in the afternoon.
Chuck knows Jimmy at his core but not all the way threw..
You can actually hear jimmy's car tire screech after rushing and putting the brakes in the background right after Chuck says he will break in at night lol...
*through
He thinks he'll sneak in under the radar like a crook. Instead, he just smashes in in rage, an emotion Chuck didn't foresee because Jimmy had never shown it to him. He thinks he understands everything about Jimmy when the truth is far simpler
Whoever runs this channel, you are the BEST!
Chuck manifested reality.
I cant even describe with words how well Michael McKean filled the role of Chuck. Unbelievable performance, couldn't imagine ANYBODY else playing Chuck.
Completely unrelated to the video and the character, but I can't be the only one who would pay money to have Michael McKean reading bedtime stories or novels for hours on end right?
Same, he's got that really good narrator voice
Such a brilliantly written character
Chuck, while he was excessively harsh at times and could’ve handled things better, was right about Jimmy. Chuck had his role to play in his moral corruption, but ultimately it Jimmy’s own actions that led him to where he was. Jimmy chose to take things further and act on his worst instincts even when Chuck was out of the picture. Even Chuck had the self-awareness to realize he had to change following the Chicanery incident.
In a show with as morally gray characters as this show, it’s surprising to see how Chuck is often perceived as this being of pure toxicity and jealousy. If Jimmy wasn’t the protagonist we’d probably be seeing this differently.
He was half right, only because yes he did see Jimmy's patterns, but he never gave Jimmy the room space or opportunities to change his ways, thus solidifying Jimmy's decent to Saul Goodman. Chuck wanted Jimmy to change, but wouldn't ever let him, without keeping him down with condescension and cruelty.
@@kdr129Yep, and he ruined his own marriage and got his mental illness thanks to jealousy and resentment to Jimmy hell he even manipulated Ernesto to get to Jimmy.
@@kdr129 The thing is, Chuck DIDN'T want Jimmy to change, that was the whole point, he could not stand Jimmy being on the same level as him, he needed Jimmy to be under him
@@hotelhotelhotel Chuck didn’t really benefit from Jimmy’s self-destructive behaviors in any way. I think his jealousy stems from the fact that he couldn’t stand Jimmy being his level while he’s out cutting corners and conning people. In Chuck’s mind, as long as he kept up his bad habits, Jimmy wasn’t deserving of being on the same level.
@@hotelhotelhotel That is not true. I think he did want Jimmy to change but thought it was impossible for Jimmy to do so. If Jimmy had kept the Davis and Main job, and not screwed it up like he did through cutting corners, I legitimately think Chuck would have seen him as his equal and treated him with more respect. Jimmy's own bad choices had just as much of an impact on his transformation into Saul Goodman as Chuck's resentment
As much as I hate chuck, he was wasn’t wrong. I was still on Jimmy’s side because I like him, but chuck was right about almost everything.
It's Chuckin time
Chucks’ ‘allergy’ to electricity and attitude torwards Jimmy and everyone else could be attributed to Acute Paranoia. The writers did an amazing job , and Michael McKean does an amazing job at portraying it
growing up is realizing chuck was right in many ways, he still lost his mind over inner jealousy, trauma from childhood, but he actually was right about most of the things he criticized jimmy over
Jimmy was changing
@@yurichtube1162 he was, but he was also stubborn and never backed down from doing things off the books, which after chuck takes a severe turn for the worse as he gets involved with the cartel
@@BruhMoment-ct5ij look at season 1, Jimmy was being a very honest lawyer. He was already changed. He wanted to proof his worth to Chuck, to be like him. Chuck never gave him the chance. "The one denied love by the villagers will burn down the village to feel its warmth". He became destructive, because he was told by Chuck that is all he was.
@@yurichtube1162He pulls off the skateboard scam in the first few episodes!
Jimmy was absolutely not a good person lmao!
Good people don’t pull scams to attract clients
He loved Jimmy like a brother in law.
Is it weird that I love Chuck and think he's right about everything? just the way he went about it was remarkably flawed.
Absolutely. He was right about Jimmy. But at the same time he didn't try to help Jimmy. He helped create the very thing he was afraid of.
He did his best to make sure he was right and he succeeded.
*Chuck was like Jimmy's Hector Salamanca...😂*
Let him cook himself
such a great actor 👏👏
I am not crazy!