Episode 4: 1960s Japanese Guitars
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- In Episode 4 of TLP, Jason and Chris talk about a few different guitars made in 1960s Japan and what makes them each so special and uniquely Japanese. This episode was shot in the RevenStudio in downtown Rock Hill, SC.
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I clicked on this video because I can appreciate vintage Japanese guitars. I own several but the cream of the crop is a 1968 Audition that has three gold leaf foil pickups. Glenn Campbell used a Teisco. Lyle is another great guitar. Ry Cooder used gold leaf pickups in stratocasters. Elvis Costello also a owner of Tiesco guitar's.
Just found an old zim gar guitar, looking to rehome it
Those are great guitars...I used to have a 1964 Audition, with the two pickups.
You can't deny the tone it does sound good
I have a teasco guitar with two gold foil pickups. I also have an area Pro two SL. The sound is amazing.
In the UK I believe they were badged as "Audition" and sold through Woolworths stores.
Many thanks for this great vid on the 1960’s Japanese guitar story.
I have a collection if them here in the UK
I realised that these humble instruments were all that some folk could afford in those
days.
In the UK the US brands like Fender and Gibson had a heavy import tax levied on them so were unaffordable to many.
These classics gave many creative folk a start in the joy of playing. Today they are to be treasured.
Would love to see pics of your collection!
Do you know of a place to check what kind of guitar I have? I can’t find any marking on it and believe it is some form of Teisco. First guitar I ever owned, and just had it returned to me. Thanks.
My first electric guitar was a Tiasco Del Rey tobacco sun burst shaped like that red one on the wall that I bought used for $30 around 1975 and later sold with a Fender Vibro Champ amp for $100 for both and bought a used Ibanez Les Paul (law suit) with that $100. I love the switch idea of those Tiascos because you can switch both pickups off if you want or each individual pick up on by themselves or together.
In 1970 I had a 4 pickup greenburst Kimberly guitar purchased from a Speigl Catalogue. I loved it and till this have no idea why or what my mother did with it. I wish I had it today.
green burst was a great finish, love the look of those!
My number 1 guitar, which I've been playing forever, is a Teisco/Kawai made Daimaru (at least that's the brand I believe it is). No nam, Teisco style Maple neck w rosewood veneer, Mahogany plywood body, Decca pickups, tunable bridge, red sunburst Jag style body, Jag style tremolo. It looks a little like a Teisco Audition but the body is different, the bridge is different, and pickup placement is closer to where Gibson had them. Sounds a little like a Tele, a little like an SG with P90s, with a lot more treble available. I always enjoy these vids about the Teiscos and other early Japanese guitars. People used to make fun of them. Not so much anymore. :-) Your guitars here have a great tone.
In 1967 I owned a $50.00 'Teisco - Del Ray' P bass, great looks, feel, and sound. In 1972 I followed some bad advice, I traded up (?) to a Gibson EB - O. It had a nice neck, just not the same sound. My bad. Go sith your feelings not what someone thinks of the brand name on the head.
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these japanese guitars also make me think of surf rock, because the surf bands in mexico, central and south america, and brazil played japanese instruments. You'll hear lots of these oddly branded japanese and early japanese transistor organs in brazilian surf music.
the surf/ RnB scene in Mexico & South America was very big back in the mid 60's.....
they are sick guitars I just picked up a 1960 Silver Tone and its crazy awwsome!! love it
Excellent video! Enjoyed the little history. Have a bunch of Teiscos myself!
Im on my second ea 250. My first electric was a Kent SG
Have a very old Yamaha acoustic that still sounds and plays like a dream.
We need a video on vox guitars and vox basses. it would be cool to follow up this video
When we get ahold of one, we'll surely do it! Thanks for the recommendation!
@@TheLocalPickup do you need a vox guitar? ill send you my super meteor
"This one is made in Japan in the 1960s, and they look like a vintage 60s guitar from Japan"
Great analysis
lol..I gave him a pass on that because he was great here
Just bought a rare -1958-1960 Ste11a (Yeah, the "L" letters are ones!) Facto Japonica 3-pickup, solid body, very well made, unique pickups; chicken head pup switch....very, very old dead strings.....electronics a little scratchy so shooting some compressed air at the pots to try to clean them up.....solid as a rock as far as it's build and the neck is straight as an arrow. Weirdly, the bridged is original (underneath paint is untouched; no screw holes) and is like a violin's that is held down by the strings....that was a surprise. The last Jackson Browne concert I was at he played a '60s Teisco, David Lindley also plays one and others...uh, the guy from Smashing Pumpkins had maybe a Guyatone...and the lead guitarist for Father John Misty has what looks like a '60s Japanese guitar.....
Thumbs up for David Lindley! 👍 He and Ry Cooder are two of my favorite players, and often photographed or seen with Teisco's.
It's not unusual to find non branded ones.
They came to US and Europe to be brandet with a local names.
In Denmark a lot of them where called Santana.
It was just a Danish company selling all kinds of no name Japanese instruments.
FYI-Gold foil pickups are still made by several manufacturers.
Just picked up a Teisco Del Rey ET-220 last week off fb marketplace. A quick check-up at my local shop had me plugged in and playing along happily in no time. It's a very fun little guitar, and it's been frustrating trying to research the model because there's so much variation even within model years. Mine looks very similar to the one you're playing in the beginning of the video, except the headstock also has the sunburst on it. Thanks for the vid!
Dope music in the beginning
Love this channel. Would love a video about the history of Epiphone.
Wow, what a coincidence. We just shot a group of episodes yesterday which included an Epiphone. It was a '53 archtop electric, so it was on the first half of Epiphone's story (the pre-gibson years). We'll do another on the second half of their story when we get ourselves a sweet Casino or something. Thanks for watching!!
Hey guys, there's some good info here but also some not so good info. The cigar smoking guy puttng his own name on an instrument had been standard business for 100 years by then. For example, Aolean pianos in NY were almost exclusively a stencil factory (meaning they didn't put their name on the piano so you could stencil on your own). Guitar companies had also been doing it since the 1920s. Music stores, and catalog companies had their own "brand" but they didn't make anything. Eko, Hofner, Hagstrom all had their guitars sold with different names on them too. Some parts like the body, neck, or different components were shipped to different factories all over the world. So you find a mish mash going many directions. Swedish bodies and Japanese necks sold by an English music shop with an Italian name, or whatever. As for the Italian named guitar, Italy was making thier own cheap stuff in the 60s like Eko, GEM, Goya, Galanti and many more. It's more likely a japanese company chose a non-japanese name thinking but would sell better. (Look up how Datsun got its name). Italian names are most prevalent because musical terms are in Italian (forte, piano, stuccato, glissando, pizzicato, coda, etal).
Unless this video is 30 years old you're too young to remember but even in the 70s anything made in Japan was considered garbage by American consumers. A Japanese scientist could have come up with a machine that instantly cures everykind of cancer and the folks in the USA would have said, "yeah, it looks good now but it's going to break any minute."
There were loads of guitars made in Japan for the Japanese market and they often way better quality than the stuff that was exported. Eleki is a style of music y'all should check out. It is the reason you're subconsciously connecting these guitars to surf music.
Last thing, the pickups were not intended to be microphonic. That's a myth. The word pickup made no sense in Japanese so the pickup switches on Japanese guitars are marked "mic", its the closest word that made sense. They're microphonic because wax potting them would have been another step in production that would make them more expensive. You can still wax pot the old ones yourself. They will sound better and they won't do that horrible squeal (the kind of feedback that no one thinks is cool).
I love old, weird Japanese guitars. They used to be a dime a dozen. You could try anything stupid like playing them with an angle grinder just to see what would happen or cut it into a new custom shape. If you destroyed it, well in 1985, you could buy another one at a garage sale for 5 bucks. I now have a lot of respect for them because they don't sound like Fender or Gibson.
I had a Heit bass also.
I've had lots of Japanese guitars over the years and no longer have them but recently I've started to try and find them to keep !
I learned a lot, thank you! Greets from germany!
The Teisco in this video is almost identical to my first electric guitar. I got it for my birthday in 1964 after playing acoustic for two years. It was branded St George, which was a chain of music stores in southern California. It didn’t have the gold foil pickups, and it didn’t sound particularly warm, but in those days I wanted twang, not warmth. The neck, instead of being natural, was finished in sunburst to match the body, and the tuners had bright nuclear yellow buttons. It wasn’t a great-playing guitar; the neck felt like a 2-by-4 that was barely rounded off. Two pickups, two on-off switches, two volume and two tone controls, and a vibrato that refused to stay in tune. I got it with a little Melody amp with an 8” speaker and tremolo, covered in salmon-pink vinyl. Put out maybe 5 watts.
i love vintage japanese guitars ive had a lot over the years .. ive had a few called audition and one called top gear and a few jedsons .. now ive got a 1982 wasburn falcon and a1978 ibanez st-100 and a hondo 2 les paul copy .... cool old guitars
Just found a Teisco Victoria Kent (the single foil style pickup with mirror pickguard) at Goodwill for $40. Everything is intact and pickup works and sounds beautiful. Neck had a bow but slightly corrected by shimming the neck. Thanks for the video, very informative !
Great! Hope you enjoy the guitar.
These vintage Japanese guitar has amazing something to offer especially if they're well kept
Looks like someone who knew what guitars looked like made a comic book about guitars, then someone made guitars based on that. But they're cool. Were the pickups not potted?
Those are great looking guitars
I have one just like the blue one but in sunburst. It is branded as Crown Professional. I have seen them branded as Royalist as well. Maybe yours was a refin.
the tone of these guitars sound great. what amp and settings do you have it set to?
That's funny. We actually had it running direct into the sound board and were using an amp simulator we selected in Garage Band. Haha. Sounds good though, right? thanks!
how did you manage to find information regarding a collaboration between the italian Company melody and the japan companies? thanks
There are some great resources out there about Japanese guitars from the 60s. In those sources, they have great info on how these guitars made it around the world.
Man i luv the sound of those guitars! Roy Clark and Glenn Cambell both had those guitars. I personally luv Ibanez and my old Washburn, my Ibanez just blows Gibson and Fenders away, the neck, the hardware and the set up is just so perfect it stays in tune forever and sounds so sweet, wouldnt trade it and its made up of a 1978 and 1979 guitar!!! I wouldn't trade it for nothing...
I have a guitar like the teisco but with a trio of pickups. Just missing the bridge pick up and can’t find one at all. I tried a acoustic version and slimmed it down but didn’t work.
I've owned lots of cheap guitars. Had a Teisco just like the" black and tan" one in this video. The bridge was set wrong from the factory. The further up the fretboard, the further it went out of tune. Would not stay in tune either. Body was too thin. Great video btw. Thanks for posting. Good info
They are definitely hit or miss for sure! Buyers beware. Thanks for watching!
@@TheLocalPickup I had a Teisco just like that (sold it), but I have another one with big steel capped single coil looking pickups that are much louder and cleaner but as microphonic as the gold foils (although the former owner did rewire it and swapped the buttons for a switch). It's the same finish (both were) but a smaller type. I think an mj2l or something (smaller but not a tulip). It always sounds like it's playing through a clean overdrive so I never use that one with pedals but it's great as a clean guitar.
When I bought the one with gold foils I was actually disappointed because my first Teisco sounded more like what I expected the gold foils to be like. A great sounding guitar, but my first Teisco was some perfect fluke and the other one with gold foils was sold when I realized I was using it just to validate the money spent.
My first Teisco was $65 at a pawnshop. The second was $399 and didn't sound or feel as good as the pawnshop deal. It was cool to have a Teisco sound I could pair with pedals but I have a Danelectro Dead on 67 that works better for me as "my regular guitar" so... it was an interesting experience but I sold it and kept the two that really mattered.
Massive fan of MIJ offsets! You get the odd dud here and there but if that happens you sell it on and get the right one. Nice to see them getting some praise!
I have a ERANAN les paul style guitar.. could you please tell me the rough value of it
*I FOUND A 60'S KINGSTON FOUR PICKUPS, FOUR VOLUME IN A LOT!*
What brought me here today.
sweet !
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Thanks! Glad you're here!
The first guitar I ever had I got from a friend. He was throwing it away. I asked if I could have it and he said yes. I was 10. At 16 I gave it to a friend. He had it until a month ago when he passed away. I got it back. I’m replacing the broken machine heads and whammy bar. Other than that it all works perfect. I think it’s a Teisco but I see no markings anywhere. I’ve checked Facebook groups and various websites, but I haven’t been able to nail it down yet. Any idea of a reference where I might be able to find out?
I have a teal japanese guitar. No branding on it but it’s from the 60s or so
Love your intro song. Is there a full version?
Hi James. Glad to hear you like the intro song! For each episode, we do a variation on a tune we made up; we try to capture the spirit of the guitar we're looking at in each version. Because of this, there's no "definitive version", so to speak, but the first episode (about the Fender Telecaster) was the first recording of this tune. We recorded a full band version for episode 24, which is probably the most fleshed-out version.
Thanks for watching!
so good!
I just bought one of these. The electronics need some work but I love this thing. And I only gave $90
Truely a cool guitar now what i want yo know if the string height is it like a sitar.???might look into getting one.
yeah, good action is the killer on these. It's hard to find, as many of them have terrible action. But some have good action - unpredictable
Ronnie of the 5-6-7-8s would love that!
Great video 👍🏼🔥 Im pretty sure Ritchie Valens has these type of guitars
It's funny we were doing a shoot yesterday and talking about Ritchie Valens... Chris was playing this song on the guitar: th-cam.com/video/4ho5xFantzQ/w-d-xo.html and didn't realize that Valens did a version of it.
Is that gold foil pick up a single coil ?
My very first electric was a Teisco Del Rey which I bought with a homemade tube amp from a neighbor for $25, around 1975. It was unplayable, the action was enormous. 3 friends and I all plugged into the same amp - it sounded horrible! I couldn't really play chords on mine, I didn't have the strength, so I figured out how to plunk out a bass line, and soon I was considered "the bass player". My next purchase was a new 1976-ish Hondo P-bass clone.
A friend was interested in my Teisco, so I gave it to him. He built a custom body of his own design out of mahogany, and mounted the Teisco's neck, bridge, electronics, etc. on it. I think it found its final end in a bonfire at the beach...
I have had many 60’s Japanese guitars. They are fun for sure, the Univox Hi Flyer was my favorite, but the 50’s and 60’s Harmony’s, Kay’s, etc similar price point excluding Danelectro, were considerably better specially with De Armonds. It would be cool if you guys could get a hold of a “serviceman” Vietnamese guitar; sold to American Soldiers in Vietnam, they are Strat, Jazzmaster Jaguar Hybrids. I found one and it’s very well build and sounds pretty good. Quality varies, the story though, that would be worth it alone.
Play it clean so we can hear what they sound like. I had a 4 pickup Kent when I was ten in 67, and I still have a Kent 620 in white bought new in 68 by my Dad. We played thru a Belmont amp.
The blue one is like a fender jaguar
Great video! Those "rip-offs" you mentioned are great guitars, though. My two gigging guitars are lawsuit era Strat and Les Paul copies. Would love to get my hands on some of the earlier Japanese guitars, but they've gone up in price recently! I don't think I could pay $200 for a guitar with serious construction issues and heavily microphonic pickups. Who knows, though, maybe I'll find the right one someday!
I hear you man. Thanks for the comment! I want to do an episode on the lawsuit era (it will be fun to do the research!).
@@TheLocalPickup Yes, you could benefit from it for sure. Five years have passed, for all I know you're all caught up by now. But here ...not so much
Love chapter size
What was the song at the beginning because I want to put that on a playlist
That's flattering! It's the little theme song we came up with for the show. We play it a little differently on each of the guitars we cover, so if you want to listen to it more, check out the other episodes of the show!
@@TheLocalPickup I sure will!! Great job!!
I was looking for a Teisco Guitar.
DeMont Guitars in Oswego, Illinois has the biggest collection of these in any store in the US.
I've collected about 10 various Japanese guitars like these and some are definitely better than others. They used to be reasonably priced but Ebay has driven up prices when guys like Jack White started playing them. Dan Auerbach is a big fan too. These were what middle class families could afford and were easily accessible thru the Sears catalog. Of coarse they made basses too, but I collect the drum sets from the same era. Ludwig and Slingerland were too pricey for most kids so there were many Japanese instruments being opened Christmas morning throughout the 60's. These are important time pieces in the timeline of the electric guitars. The more buttons and knobs the better! Most are great wall art. Way more forward thinking in terms of design than American guitars, even to this day.
Looking to buy a zim gar 60s guitar?
How do you know what you’re getting when it comes to buying vintage Japanese guitars online?
You don' really. But if you can have a conversation with the seller that's good. I would want to see that the action is low (strings are low to the fret board). This means the neck has a good angle. And I would want to hear the guitar and make sure that it sounds awesome (some of those old pickups sound amazing, some not so much). The other stuff can all be tinkered with and replaced as needed (the nut, tuning pegs, etc.). Good luck!
I'm from the U.K. I own about 7 of these Japanese "student" electric guitars. I have
one Audition badged guitar with 2 gold foil pickups and lots of chromed metal on it.
The pickguard covers about half of the guitar body top, and it is all chromed metal,
in very good condition.
The gold foils sound great when plugged into a vibrato pedal. I have 2 other gold foil pickups in a box, at the moment.
I can recommend a book on the the subject of these guitars entitled " History of
Japanese electric guitars" by Frank Meyers. It should be available on Amazon.
Just one question about the name TEISCO. I think it stands for Tokyo Electric
Instrument & Sound Company. Others say no it doesn't, but can't come up with the
answer. What do you think?
Teisco doesn't mean anything, the guy who came up with it just thought it sounded nice
The secret to making these things sound good is really heavy strings. I have baritone strings on mine with standard e tuning
Any chance that blue guy might be for sale? I love it
sold it a while back!
@@TheLocalPickup Thank you!!
Got a 60s zim gar guitar I'd sell you
He said the unbranded guitar was probably sneaked out of the factory. The majority of these vintage japanese guitars/basses currently on the market are unbranded. Anyone know whats going on with that?
Hey guys I got this teisco era guitar, by Schafer with one gold foil pickup and plastic fkn tuning pegs, could use some help, its made in Korea (decal on it), EG901 model #
Hard to find these guitar in their mint conditions in the video
the pickups... are they really microphonic by design?
For those who get it vintage MIJ guitars are an obsession. Rory Gallagher RIP
You can't really play Clapton or Hendrix on these but you can make music on them. I hated these things when I started playing in 1981 but I do see some value in them now. Still not great in my opinion but they have thier place.
Totally agree, cool to muck around on but not to gig with.
cant hear the guitars for the effects loaded on..
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"It's Japanese style, maaan~" 8:01
I've a 1990 57 fernandes stratocaster replica it's more stratocaster than stratocaster
I'm surprised you got a few of them to play.
Those things make me want to gouge my eyes out lol.
Man, that damned thing I had a long time ago was like playing an oar. Teisco. I still have the nameplate off it.
Mulletron guitar man
I just got a Japanese electric guitar from a family member. Probably mid 60’s. No name brand. Just a plate on the back that says made in Japan. It has a raised pick guard with a pick-up on the guard? Physical condition is a 9 out of 10. Just trying to get a ball park figure on what it is worth.
On the blue one it wasn't special, the sticker just fell off! Couple hundred bucks? WTF?
The explanation provided in the first minutes of this video are factually inaccurate as to the reason there were Japanese copies of American instruments being produced int he 70s ad 80s. There was zero "offshoring" by American guitar manufacturers in the lawsuit era. If they'd been commission for cheap labor and materials by GIbson et al, there would be no 'lawsuit'. The truth is the Japanese currency was very depressed in the 60s and young college kids becoming interested in owning Les Pauls and Strats could never afford them. So some entrepreneurial luthiers and investors created the broad swath of brands that produced arguably better quality American guitars, almost entirely on their own independent of any input from them, until Gibson sued Ibanez and lost. After that, it was "If you can't beat em, join em" for both companies with Fender Japan starting in 82/83 at Fujigen (Ibanez,, Greco, etc) and Gibson producing their Orville line (Gibson was already a registered copyright by another unrelated company in Japan at the time) at another well-reputed factory. This distinction is important in that it only further emphasizes the point that these early Japanese-designed guitars were of high build quality with solid electronics even before lawsuit companies began filling the demand for the American guitars played by the Beatles and then everyone after them. It is remarkable that they applied this lutherie to copies that were themselves as good as the originals. When we think of "knock offs" made China, Indonesia and Korea, it is in the usual sense of profiteering off other's work using cheap materials and approximations of the design and build of the originals. In Japan, by contrast, there is an ethic that people strive to based on imitation of their master of any given craft - as the path to one's own mastery, one must walk the journey of their predecessors. With that, profit is not a primary consideration, they know it will come with quality anyway. Iterative design. This, by the way, is why 7 out of 10 vehicles on American highways today is Japanese. We always getting owned by that country!~
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i found 2 of these very simple student models in the closet, one pickup guitars that look, cheap ,cheap cheap. i was expected them to either not work or work super crappy? guess what? they are unbelievably good! these plywood once incredibly cheap guitars play and sound great. wtf????
by the time i came of age in the 70s, the entry level guitars were no longer quality student guitars, but the super low end of strat knockoffs. the were 99 bucks and they SUCKED horribly . they were fashion guitars, like pretend to your friends you have a strat but you really have something that is more just curio than actual working guitar. so unless your dad was going to kick in heavy for a real gibson or fender, you were getting pure garbage
the sad part is that these old japanese guitars are expensive now, so i'll probably sell these two to get something modern. i wish i knew about these when my dad bougth me the hundred buck unusable strat knockoff as i could have bought 20 of these and had a lot of nice stuff. where was the guidance in my life??????
japanese guitars from this era get me way more worked up than a fender or gibson from that era. Honestly way better designs than gibson has ever thought up of. I'll take a shitty pawn shop tiesco over a multi thousand dollar gibson any day
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Look at and hear a guitar regardless of brand. Dont know why thats odd.
I don't know about the 60's guitars, I know there was a lot of them in the 70's but the ones that were around then the ones I came across just seem very cheap feeling. I know the Tiescos ended up making good copies. I have in the last 3 years I have been collecting late 70's to mid-late 80's guitars and basses like Westone, Ibenez,Aria Pro ll, Antoria, Grecco, Westbury and many others were great guitars. Those guitars must be more the higher end ones. I still love my Gibson, Fender and Guild but prices have gone through the roof. I guess I was a little bit of a head stock snob, I don't care anymore, I am not a professional musician nor a collector I just want a nice playing and sounding instrument to play and those Japanese guitars great bang for the buck. In the last couple of years I have seen them go up a little bit. I kinda wish players are not finding out about them so I can buy them all.
You and me both, man. You and me both.
Gold foil pickups do not use real gold.
“Like Hyundai?”
Yeah, except Hyundai is Korean, not Japanese.
why is the guy in the red playing guitar when the other guy is trying to explain all about the charity ???? grrrr
Big boi on the right seems kinda dumb
why does this guy keep saying the same thing ?? he says it once then says it again !!!!
Japan did it better. In my opinion
Ive played a couple of japanese vintage electric and acoustic guitars from kawai, guya and yamaha and they all have this “baritone” spirit, with the sound focussed on the mids and low range but lacking highs, lacking attack and sustain. They are heavy, with slippery bodies with high action and rough necks, hard to play and uncomfortable, totaaly unrewarding. Pieces of junk, and yes, aestethically ugly, very ugly instruments.
You sure?
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