I hope Ciara still knows she deserves more, I don’t want her to create any complex around race or not feeling good enough in general. It’s a West thing, not a you-thing Ciara!
Why would she create something around race it hasn't anything to do with white black Hispanic Asian ect. A lot of men are self-serving wimps these days look at Carl.
@@patclark2398 well to be fair, the pickings are SLIM among Bravo men, sadly! Her two best friends are dating Bravo men and it worked for them despite Kyle and Craig's past, so she probably thought she could "fix" them (something that many women are tempted to do when it comes to men)
I’ve recently just started to warm up to Ciara. I viewed her as a bit cold in her first couple seasons and after this reunion it’s clear that she’s guarded and probably has some trauma that we’ll never know, and shouldn’t. I hope she finds the strength she needs in friends like Paige and Amanda.
You guys find every black woman "Cold" if she doesn't talk a lot something. She came into the house as the ONLY black person and a woman and she took shots with the girls, she defended Hannah against Luke when he was playing both of them, she warmed up a lot in that house despite being the obviously different one and she was still "Cold?" What was she supposed to do to be MORE warm? Sing and dance for you guys? 😂The high standards you have for black women but you get to be cold, passive aggressive, and Medicore is astounding
I was making no comment about race - I was speaking about the fact she didn’t interact warmly with some of the cast in earlier seasons. I can use another word, if you’d like? Hesitant? I think Ciara herself said she doesn’t open up easily to people. Please don’t put hateful words in someone’s mouth.
@@lindsey2002 You could not have watched the earlier seasons because I gave examples of Ciara's behaviour from the first time she came on the show and that doesn't reflect a person being "Cold" Secondly, a person choosing not to divulge their personal life makes them does not make them a cold person; they are guarded OR they don't trust the person they are around in order to share their personal life. I never heard that if a person doesn't tell me their life story they are "cold." The fact of the matter is that most Non black women, such as yourself, have this nasty need to set high expectation and highly scrutinize black women on how we must behave around you. As if we need to dance, sing, and now share our personal life. if not, we are angry, rude, cold. The funny part is non black women are actually way more cold, unfriendly, catty, and passive aggressive. the irony.
@@keepingit100-ss3hx Sure, I respect that. Let’s say “reserved” then. I’m not going to parse words, I know what my intentions were in my initial comment, and it was nothing negative or derogatory. I’ve been much more critical to Carl and Kyle and Danielle in this thread, if we’re keeping it 100. We’re all allowed to voice opinions in a respectful way, but it appears that I can’t because of who I am.
Carl is weak and enjoys playing the victim. They have never liked Lindsay, so they are quick dismiss her experiences. Instead, they shouldn't take sides and understand there are three sides to every story. Even with Danielle admitting to reporting info about Craig to the press, they were angrier at Lindsay for telling on her friend instead of Danielle for allowing her friend to be blamed.
What show are you watching? Lindsay is the one that plays victim. She can't take ownership of her behavior and is always blaming others. Nothing is EVER her fault. At least Carl recognizes that they are both to blame for the breakdown of their marriage whereas Lindsay ONLY blames Carl.
Oh boy - definitely looking forward to say about this! I have a LOT of thoughts regarding West (and they aren't good - this was a massive fall from grace for him for sure)
The other rumor is that Lindsey was supposed to be on traitors but was replaced by Ciera because she is with child. 😮 hate hate hate to speculate on that kind of stuff but… Also. Why do we have to question whether Lindsey felt blind sides or not? I don’t see how it changes things. Carl is a turd regardless. 🤷🏻♀️
Okay....THANK YOU! The whole Carl not having Kyle as a groomsmen thing is exactly how I felt about it all. Carl was intimidated by Lindsay and didn't need her to say the actual words....he knew if he made Kyle a groomsmen there would be conflict and he was too "afraid" to do it.
I agree but didn't he present it as though she actually said it? I take issue with that...seems like he is intentionally misleading everyone else he should say I think she would be pissed...makes him less credible..imho.
I’ve been dreading this one. I’ve always said I love my friends cause I don’t have to date my friends. West would be a legit buddy but might not be a great boyfriend. Ciara needs to look outside of fame hungry Bravo-lebrities for boyfriends cause it will always be a storyline and a heartbreak.
West doesn’t deserve the attention, negative or positive. And for no reason at all, he reminds me of “Doofy” from Scary Movie. He doesn’t care about Ciara as a person but he’s thrilled that he, as a 4 (in personality and looks), conquered a 10 (in virtue, looks, plus she cried). He loved every minute of her tears. He’ll continue on his quest to sleep with anything sliding in his DMs, and if he’s lucky, he won’t catch some incurable disease. 😵💫🥴 This peasant is no prize.
If you’re going to mention Gabby being a mouthpiece, I hope you mention Paige being Ciara’s to the point where she feeds her lines to repeat. Carl is a liar & a wimpy sop.
Lindsay was totally calm this season except the first argument of the summer. He had been jobless for almost a year. She asked questions that he couldn’t answer so he blamed her instead of looking in the mirror.
They had the same jobs! She was rightfully so wanted him to decide on a career path by the time they got married, as I have a feeling if they did get married the plan was to leave the show, she'd get pregnant one day one of the honeymoon and then she was going to be a mom influencer so she would need Carl's benefits! He in no way shape or form should have proposed and she should have not said yes!! IT WAS NEVER GOING TO LAST!
Because Gabby co-signs for Lindsay when she knows that Lindsay is wrong. She saw Lindsay accuse Carl of being on cocaine when she knew that wasn't right.
Exactly. On the after shows Gabby had been driving me nuts doing too much and actually being Lindsay's mouthpiece. However, during this part of the reuinion, I was glad she had Lindsay's back, especially since the Bedsore Brigade was going to do what they always do...flip on Lindsay and come for her because they genuinely do not like her.
She’s not at Andrea’s wedding, they released the official statement but says they are going strong. Don’t know if that’s just PR to keep the rumor mill at bay or if it’s serious. Saw some very blurry video of Kyle rubbing a girls arm at a club
It’s impossible for Lindsay to be blindsided Ive always found her very nasty she has a a very calculated way of manipulating situations in her favor. Gabby chimed in way too much for me this is none of your business
This is actually terrible commentary. Let’s glaze over all of the terrible gaslighting that Carl has done to Lindsey. Watching him at the reunion saying “take accountability” FOR WHAT? Carl didn’t have an honest conversation with her all summer. Ugh.
They don’t like Lindsey because they love Carl! Anything Carl does its because his human and make mistakes, anything Lindsey does its because she is evil witch! Thats how they look at them
Oh please! Lindsay is the worst. I'm not fully team Carl because he's not perfect BUT Lindsay is NEVER accountable for anything and she never cops to the mistakes she makes. She was wrong for accusing Carl of being on drugs and not once has she apologised. That's why people don't like her. Nothing is ever her fault.
In Carl’s confessional during the season he didn’t say Lindsay said not to have Kyle. He said she didn’t say it but he knew it was implied. He is a weak man and she is hard work, I wouldn’t want to be with either of them. As for West, I think he really did like Ciara but maybe after three months of dating it just wasn’t going to work long term. It doesn’t mean he’s an awful person, we’ve all dated people for a few months and known it wouldn’t work
Shooter made a great point tho about the non housewife shows vs housewife shows, the reunions cannot compare. I think the difference is the non housewife shows the cast are usually friends outside of the show whereas housewives they’re not always really friends until the cameras are up. Also, housewife’s get rewarded for being mean & shady if they do it right, a non housewife going off on another cast mate might not be received so well bc it’s usually out of character & gives “try hard.”
I do think she felt blind sided for the simple fact she thought he would not have that convo on camera before having it in private...and she would be right...that was shitty and shady and if he needed to have it on camera that says something about the relationship NOT just Lindsay...imo.
It seems like his last ditch effort to 'activate' her to justify his victim mentality. He seemed flustered when she would not overreact to his on camera efforts before. Maybe he thought surprising her on a day they hadn't planned to film would do the trick. As much as I have never been a fan of either, she has gained my respect for her growth. I am not sure how I would respond to that level of disrespect. All I can think of is how he belittled her career as an influencer claiming she made more as a woman. While women tend to get more brand deals they tend to get paid at least 30% less on those deals, so perhaps she used her experience in PR to negotiate better deals. Either way he 'read' as jealous and insecure about his own partner's success and used it to justify his own lack of ambition.
@@Mimi73161 They had completely different wants/needs and definitely were not on the same page about most things. After hearing about how Captain Lee compared Carl to Jekyll and Hyde, I could understand why Lindsay wanted to record him. Although, if you're at that point you probably ought to end the relationship.
If Carl so much as slightly raises his voice, Lindsay is going to tell him to stop screaming. She assigns the narrative she wants to put forth. Just saying it doesn't make it so, Lindsay. What a horrible person to have a disagreement with.
The whole adult flower boy concept shd not hv ever been considered. Such a dumb demeaning idea for any man. Just let them be guests of honor and stop the baffoonery
Lmao, just started this episode and I'm already dead🤣 I'm pushing 40 and find myself complaining ALL the time about these random "injuries" that I feel have been leveled on me by my own middle-aged body for no good reason!!🤨
@25:32. Jesse is not a f#%kboi. He is honest in his intention. The operative word 'honest'. West plays the 'guy of potential' instead of being truthful.
West went a little south! What a bummer because he ruined his first summer and that could not have been any dumber. Really made me want to drink a lot of rummer. I’m sorry I’m trying to cheer myself up. I was looking forward to a light hearted love story. Stupid West.
Carl is just like Amanda, fake nice people who act like victims in their relationship when they are not victims at all. I hope Ciara learns to pick better man as she has a lot going for herself and doesn't need no Robin Williams look- a-like , Snake in the Garden West.
You guys are so obsessed with remaining “neutral” that you refuse to call Carl out. Lindsay was treated so unfair this reunion part 1 bc no one calls Carl out for straight up lying and gaslighting. It’s giving Katie & Schwartz! Nobody wants to hurt poor Carls feelings (a grown man mind you) but to h*ll with Lindsay’s! 🚮 There are situations during the season where Lindsay was wrong, end of. There were also situations where Carl was straight up wrong, yes that’s right. The only situation in which they’re both wrong is the one in which they thought getting married was a good idea.
I laughed at how you stumbled onto the actual meaning of the word “louche”. adjective. If you describe a person or place as louche, you mean that they are unconventional and not respectable, but often in a way that people find rather attractive.
These bravo guys plant seeds all season long for the breakup. They think they are so smart. Tom Sandoval, Tom Schwartz helping Sandoval, Carl and now Kyle is doing the same thing to Amanda. These guys are so manipulative
Lindsey/production came up with 🌺 boy for filming the wedding, Lindsey wanted the on TV wedding she would be paid for & receive tons of attention/deals. Lindsey can't articulate bc her REAL story is shallow and greedy. I think her bravo produced bridzilla showed Carl who she really was. The same person who wanted to exploit a wedding and humiliate the men on highly publicized TV. And that's the real story.
I hope Ciara still knows she deserves more, I don’t want her to create any complex around race or not feeling good enough in general. It’s a West thing, not a you-thing Ciara!
This right here!! She is 🔥smart beautiful sweet and beautiful to boot!!! West does not deserve her period!
Except, she seems to pick fboys.........Austin and West. She needs Paige to help with her next pick.
Why would she create something around race it hasn't anything to do with white black Hispanic Asian ect. A lot of men are self-serving wimps these days look at Carl.
@@patclark2398 well to be fair, the pickings are SLIM among Bravo men, sadly! Her two best friends are dating Bravo men and it worked for them despite Kyle and Craig's past, so she probably thought she could "fix" them (something that many women are tempted to do when it comes to men)
Just stop picking guys on this show.
West toyed with our girl. The flogging must continue 😂.
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I’ve recently just started to warm up to Ciara. I viewed her as a bit cold in her first couple seasons and after this reunion it’s clear that she’s guarded and probably has some trauma that we’ll never know, and shouldn’t. I hope she finds the strength she needs in friends like Paige and Amanda.
You guys find every black woman "Cold" if she doesn't talk a lot something. She came into the house as the ONLY black person and a woman and she took shots with the girls, she defended Hannah against Luke when he was playing both of them, she warmed up a lot in that house despite being the obviously different one and she was still "Cold?" What was she supposed to do to be MORE warm? Sing and dance for you guys? 😂The high standards you have for black women but you get to be cold, passive aggressive, and Medicore is astounding
I was making no comment about race - I was speaking about the fact she didn’t interact warmly with some of the cast in earlier seasons. I can use another word, if you’d like? Hesitant? I think Ciara herself said she doesn’t open up easily to people. Please don’t put hateful words in someone’s mouth.
@@lindsey2002 You could not have watched the earlier seasons because I gave examples of Ciara's behaviour from the first time she came on the show and that doesn't reflect a person being "Cold" Secondly, a person choosing not to divulge their personal life makes them does not make them a cold person; they are guarded OR they don't trust the person they are around in order to share their personal life. I never heard that if a person doesn't tell me their life story they are "cold." The fact of the matter is that most Non black women, such as yourself, have this nasty need to set high expectation and highly scrutinize black women on how we must behave around you. As if we need to dance, sing, and now share our personal life. if not, we are angry, rude, cold. The funny part is non black women are actually way more cold, unfriendly, catty, and passive aggressive. the irony.
@@keepingit100-ss3hx Sure, I respect that. Let’s say “reserved” then. I’m not going to parse words, I know what my intentions were in my initial comment, and it was nothing negative or derogatory. I’ve been much more critical to Carl and Kyle and Danielle in this thread, if we’re keeping it 100. We’re all allowed to voice opinions in a respectful way, but it appears that I can’t because of who I am.
I find Ciara boring. I think she's a lovely person, but not very interesting to watch on reality television.
Carl is weak and enjoys playing the victim. They have never liked Lindsay, so they are quick dismiss her experiences. Instead, they shouldn't take sides and understand there are three sides to every story. Even with Danielle admitting to reporting info about Craig to the press, they were angrier at Lindsay for telling on her friend instead of Danielle for allowing her friend to be blamed.
I like a sensible and sensitive man! However Carl is just weak and messy! Disappointing!
What show are you watching? Lindsay is the one that plays victim. She can't take ownership of her behavior and is always blaming others. Nothing is EVER her fault. At least Carl recognizes that they are both to blame for the breakdown of their marriage whereas Lindsay ONLY blames Carl.
The way Lindsay has acted throughout the seasons hasn't created any goodwill from the audience.
Carl is Lazy and Lindsay made more money. Carl is a child.
@@bethdostellio8497 They make the same.
Carl is absolutely acting like the victim.
Haha. That's hilarious. Lindsay is always the victim and never takes accountability.
Oh boy - definitely looking forward to say about this! I have a LOT of thoughts regarding West (and they aren't good - this was a massive fall from grace for him for sure)
No fall from grace, West has always been an fboy.
The other rumor is that Lindsey was supposed to be on traitors but was replaced by Ciera because she is with child. 😮 hate hate hate to speculate on that kind of stuff but…
Also. Why do we have to question whether Lindsey felt blind sides or not? I don’t see how it changes things. Carl is a turd regardless. 🤷🏻♀️
Okay....THANK YOU! The whole Carl not having Kyle as a groomsmen thing is exactly how I felt about it all. Carl was intimidated by Lindsay and didn't need her to say the actual words....he knew if he made Kyle a groomsmen there would be conflict and he was too "afraid" to do it.
I agree but didn't he present it as though she actually said it? I take issue with that...seems like he is intentionally misleading everyone else he should say I think she would be pissed...makes him less credible..imho.
Poor Carl! Such an innocent person so scared of Lindsey he couldn’t articulate his needs! 😂😂what bunch of BS!
I say Carl is gay & always have!
I’ve been dreading this one. I’ve always said I love my friends cause I don’t have to date my friends. West would be a legit buddy but might not be a great boyfriend. Ciara needs to look outside of fame hungry Bravo-lebrities for boyfriends cause it will always be a storyline and a heartbreak.
Ciara has GOT to stop letting reality show casting directors choose her boyfriends🤣
I’ve been waiting for this 😂🎉
Me too. They will have a fair take unlike Nick Viall 😂😂😂
West doesn’t deserve the attention, negative or positive. And for no reason at all, he reminds me of “Doofy” from Scary Movie. He doesn’t care about Ciara as a person but he’s thrilled that he, as a 4 (in personality and looks), conquered a 10 (in virtue, looks, plus she cried). He loved every minute of her tears. He’ll continue on his quest to sleep with anything sliding in his DMs, and if he’s lucky, he won’t catch some incurable disease. 😵💫🥴
This peasant is no prize.
West was so indifferent. He came across as "Oh well, too bad".
If you’re going to mention Gabby being a mouthpiece, I hope you mention Paige being Ciara’s to the point where she feeds her lines to repeat. Carl is a liar & a wimpy sop.
So excited to have come across this channel. I love it. Have you done a video on Lindsey's interview on the Not Skinny, Not Fat podcast?
Carl just wanted to blame Lindsay for his own actions. He’s very manipulative.
He’s a child with poor coping skills…hence the addictions
Lindsay was totally calm this season except the first argument of the summer. He had been jobless for almost a year. She asked questions that he couldn’t answer so he blamed her instead of looking in the mirror.
They had the same jobs! She was rightfully so wanted him to decide on a career path by the time they got married, as I have a feeling if they did get married the plan was to leave the show, she'd get pregnant one day one of the honeymoon and then she was going to be a mom influencer so she would need Carl's benefits! He in no way shape or form should have proposed and she should have not said yes!! IT WAS NEVER GOING TO LAST!
Why is it so bad for Gabby to stand up for Lyndsay but Paige is praised for doing it for Ciara?
It should be praised for both.
Because Gabby co-signs for Lindsay when she knows that Lindsay is wrong. She saw Lindsay accuse Carl of being on cocaine when she knew that wasn't right.
Exactly. On the after shows Gabby had been driving me nuts doing too much and actually being Lindsay's mouthpiece.
However, during this part of the reuinion, I was glad she had Lindsay's back, especially since the Bedsore Brigade was going to do what they always do...flip on Lindsay and come for her because they genuinely do not like her.
The whole “I’m scared” thing from Carl is so manipulative. What is she going to do to his 6’4” self? Stop paying his bills? I guess that’s scary.
What are you talking about? It's not that he's scared of her physically assaulting him. He dreaded her popping off, which she is famous for.
She’s not at Andrea’s wedding, they released the official statement but says they are going strong. Don’t know if that’s just PR to keep the rumor mill at bay or if it’s serious. Saw some very blurry video of Kyle rubbing a girls arm at a club
It’s impossible for Lindsay to be blindsided Ive always found her very nasty she has a a very calculated way of manipulating situations in her favor. Gabby chimed in way too much for me this is none of your business
Lindsay talked about feeling blindsided because Carl was so great at the engagement party, which was only 2 wks prior to the break up.
This is actually terrible commentary. Let’s glaze over all of the terrible gaslighting that Carl has done to Lindsey. Watching him at the reunion saying “take accountability” FOR WHAT? Carl didn’t have an honest conversation with her all summer. Ugh.
They don’t like Lindsey because they love Carl! Anything Carl does its because his human and make mistakes, anything Lindsey does its because she is evil witch! Thats how they look at them
@@Neg-mas Exactly. Lindsey hasn’t tapped into her feminine side enough I guess. 🙄
Oh please! Lindsay is the worst. I'm not fully team Carl because he's not perfect BUT Lindsay is NEVER accountable for anything and she never cops to the mistakes she makes. She was wrong for accusing Carl of being on drugs and not once has she apologised. That's why people don't like her. Nothing is ever her fault.
In Carl’s confessional during the season he didn’t say Lindsay said not to have Kyle. He said she didn’t say it but he knew it was implied. He is a weak man and she is hard work, I wouldn’t want to be with either of them. As for West, I think he really did like Ciara but maybe after three months of dating it just wasn’t going to work long term. It doesn’t mean he’s an awful person, we’ve all dated people for a few months and known it wouldn’t work
Did you say that about Ariana and Tom she had a boyfriend right after she broke up with Tom too huh huh!!!!!
Shooter made a great point tho about the non housewife shows vs housewife shows, the reunions cannot compare. I think the difference is the non housewife shows the cast are usually friends outside of the show whereas housewives they’re not always really friends until the cameras are up. Also, housewife’s get rewarded for being mean & shady if they do it right, a non housewife going off on another cast mate might not be received so well bc it’s usually out of character & gives “try hard.”
TGIBB🎉 My day just got better
I think carl laid the ground work off season with the cast and lindsay didnt do that it seems
I do think she felt blind sided for the simple fact she thought he would not have that convo on camera before having it in private...and she would be right...that was shitty and shady and if he needed to have it on camera that says something about the relationship NOT just Lindsay...imo.
It seems like his last ditch effort to 'activate' her to justify his victim mentality. He seemed flustered when she would not overreact to his on camera efforts before. Maybe he thought surprising her on a day they hadn't planned to film would do the trick. As much as I have never been a fan of either, she has gained my respect for her growth. I am not sure how I would respond to that level of disrespect. All I can think of is how he belittled her career as an influencer claiming she made more as a woman. While women tend to get more brand deals they tend to get paid at least 30% less on those deals, so perhaps she used her experience in PR to negotiate better deals. Either way he 'read' as jealous and insecure about his own partner's success and used it to justify his own lack of ambition.
@@MaximumDull I definitely agree with this...I only meant that perhaps they shouldn't be together ..
@@Mimi73161 They had completely different wants/needs and definitely were not on the same page about most things. After hearing about how Captain Lee compared Carl to Jekyll and Hyde, I could understand why Lindsay wanted to record him. Although, if you're at that point you probably ought to end the relationship.
@@MaximumDull exactly 💯
If Carl so much as slightly raises his voice, Lindsay is going to tell him to stop screaming. She assigns the narrative she wants to put forth. Just saying it doesn't make it so, Lindsay. What a horrible person to have a disagreement with.
The whole adult flower boy concept shd not hv ever been considered. Such a dumb demeaning idea for any man.
Just let them be guests of honor and stop the baffoonery
It would’ve been funny to see three grown men throw flowers down the aisle.
Cannot wait for tonight y'all 💜💜💜💜💜💜#1
Me too!!!
Lmao, just started this episode and I'm already dead🤣 I'm pushing 40 and find myself complaining ALL the time about these random "injuries" that I feel have been leveled on me by my own middle-aged body for no good reason!!🤨
Lindsay could have her publicist call the paparazzi and then claim she didn't call them. This woman is an expert manipulator of the truth.
You guys were going hard for West too lmao. Can't notice a fuckboy ?
Everybody was 🤷🏻♂️
@@bravbrospodcast That is not true, not everybody.
Oh and we never did get the 2nd half of yall last live show with Dillard and Ryan Bailey, WHAT HAPPENED
So Paige and Kyle can interject and defend but Gabby can’t. Interesting…
West so quiet at reunion, sad bro. U broke Ciaras 💔.
@25:32. Jesse is not a f#%kboi. He is honest in his intention. The operative word 'honest'. West plays the 'guy of potential' instead of being truthful.
Paige is too smart for Lindsay. We know Lindsay is the manipulation person. Craig and Paige a different level.
West went a little south! What a bummer because he ruined his first summer and that could not have been any dumber. Really made me want to drink a lot of rummer. I’m sorry I’m trying to cheer myself up. I was looking forward to a light hearted love story. Stupid West.
Gheez it took you guys long enough, a whole 5 days I know west was disappointing but every one came get it,
Boston! Stop I need to go
Carl is just like Amanda, fake nice people who act like victims in their relationship when they are not victims at all. I hope Ciara learns to pick better man as she has a lot going for herself and doesn't need no Robin Williams look- a-like , Snake in the Garden West.
LOL, West totally looks like Robin Williams. I was trying to figure out who he looked like!
You guys are so obsessed with remaining “neutral” that you refuse to call Carl out. Lindsay was treated so unfair this reunion part 1 bc no one calls Carl out for straight up lying and gaslighting. It’s giving Katie & Schwartz! Nobody wants to hurt poor Carls feelings (a grown man mind you) but to h*ll with Lindsay’s! 🚮
There are situations during the season where Lindsay was wrong, end of. There were also situations where Carl was straight up wrong, yes that’s right. The only situation in which they’re both wrong is the one in which they thought getting married was a good idea.
Manifesting an amazing man for Ciara!
I laughed at how you stumbled onto the actual meaning of the word “louche”. adjective. If you describe a person or place as louche, you mean that they are unconventional and not respectable, but often in a way that people find rather attractive.
These bravo guys plant seeds all season long for the breakup. They think they are so smart.
Tom Sandoval, Tom Schwartz helping Sandoval, Carl and now Kyle is doing the same thing to Amanda.
These guys are so manipulative
Steel is cute.
This is my issue everyone has trauma everyone has shit going on Lindsay and Carl can both be sad, but like Lindsay come on.
Shooter has booboos. I was similarly (and lovingly) checked for my non-athletic adult injuries 😂
Oh just wait.I’m 75 and pull something every time I roll over in bed. Be kind to your body.
Lindsey/production came up with 🌺 boy for filming the wedding, Lindsey wanted the on TV wedding she would be paid for & receive tons of attention/deals. Lindsey can't articulate bc her REAL story is shallow and greedy. I think her bravo produced bridzilla showed Carl who she really was. The same person who wanted to exploit a wedding and humiliate the men on highly publicized TV. And that's the real story.
Lindsay thought Carl would never break up with her Maybe she doesn't know the definition of blindsided...
Lindsey TOLD her to do it !!!