Praying for Pope Francis in my Rosary. Thank you for continuing to make clips. Your Jimmy Akin episode is my favorite of the year besides the Dr. Carrie Gress one!
@@holdenedwards I had only played the newer AC and when I heard the first ones were way better I went to my local nerd store and bought a great condition ps3 and a couple old AC games for like $100 lol
The dark story we know about Alexandre VI comes mostly from one source, Joanne Burchard, who later revealed that he hated the Borgias, and spied for the future pope Julius II, with the promise he would become bishop of Orta. With all due respect, given that the source is not neutral, it is then legitimate to reconsider what we know about his pontificate, because the popular conception is merely a Hollywood exaggeration deriving from a narrative that was already an exaggeration of his crimes.
Good point. However, the source not being neutral (and some would allege that no source can be neutral) wouldn't be enough to dismiss everything that source has to say on a particular subject. It does call for more "due diligence", like looking for sources that contradict the first one and evidence for/against each claim, preferably from yet other sources and even better if any evidence can be confirmed/refuted by objective, tangentially related facts. Just sharing my two cents.
Pope Alexander VI - at least in his defense of the temporal interests of the Church - was one of the greatest and most successful popes of all time. Years ago, I wrote a series of posts about him, trying to put him in a positive light. I learned more information after writing them, and I changed opinions, and I became an even bigger admirer of him. Last year, I went on a sort of pilgrimage to Valencia, Xàtiva, and Gandía. ❤ One day, I will finish revising that series, this time probably just into one big post.
I love that Jimmy knows about horrible histories. Such an entertaining and interesting way to learn history. I know it was my favorite history books growing up
While it seems unlikely, I always wonder if God wanted Benedict IX to be the Pope for some reason and there was a Jonah parallel going on where he didn't want to be Pope and God kept leading him back to it.
Benedict probably viewed the papacy as more of a powerful political office than a holy office. He was 20 when his dad installed him as pope, lost the office in a military conflict; regained it in a counter offensive; sold it to his relative to marry his cousin; then regretted his decision and got it back and died at 43.
Which Pope in History has caused more doctrinal, pastoral and theological confusion amongst the clergy and the laity would be the right title. Wonder if Matt was interviewing someone like Ralph Martin, if he would be getting different answers than Jimmy Akin.
i mean you could say that the saints will pray for us in the future but as they are praying to God and God can apply the grace they are requesting at any point in time
I am an evangelical who doesn’t believe the pope is legitimate leader of the church,but I believe they do hold the position that their edicts and writings are infallible, not their behaviors. Papists are still wrong to follow him, just an easy straw man to be confused about for non-romanists.
Been studying the Benedict IX papacies. It's a totally wild period with serious consequences for how we view just "what" a pope is - on account of how it shows us "how" one can become pope (viz., pushing out the other guy - there are other cases but the 11th century is just chock full).
Childish. The Roman Catholic church and the Western Europe gone through countless horrible Popes, Roman purges, Pagan massacres, Islamic invasion, Mongolian invasion were the Christian world was almost eliminated, countless corrupt clergy, bishops, The Schism and the Protestant movement where it led to numerous sectarian violence and wars... Yet, the Catholic church survived more than 2 thousands years. The most influencial religion in history and the prime force that shaped the modern world, that even other, much older religions would constantly compare itself and adjust itself to it, but never the other way around. And is still Is the most fastest growing Religion today with more convert that are still unaccounted.
I heard some where that newton might have had a similar view on the soul. Though I could be wrong. But even so by the 17th to 18th century this was an odd view.
There have been Popes with poor moral character. But Francis is unfortunately the worst Pope for his inability to guard tradition and knowingly create ambiguity.
The worst pope was the apostle Peter. You don't find a pope who met our Lord in flesh and was able to deny him. But it had to be so, so you don't wory due to some actions of these later popes. No one will be worse than Peter.
I’m not sure Peter’s sin, from which he sincerely repented, is worse than the remorseless corruption of other popes. To claim so is to not have an understanding of God’s grace, in my opinion.
St. Peter wasn't pope when he denied Jesus. And his repentance was almost immediate. You can't judge a papal reign by something that was done before it began, no matter how egregious.
Would you say that St. Paul is one of the worst Saints because he started off persecuting Christains? Peter repented and changed, so I would say measuring him by his falls is incredibly unfair. It may be the worst thing a Pope has ever done, but overall Peter has done way more for the church than anyone.
It’s sad to see these videos pop up on my feed when I know that it’s a sin-a horrible sin-to belong to a religion that blesses gay couples. It’s hard to give it up, but ultimately I worship Christ, not man.
@@Nicolas-tf1ub I think many feel that way, because we live & breath in a world of mass communication (phone, tv, news, internet, social media ... The mass of confusion gets around the world in seconds, and we don't have the leadership #s and dedication to correct & clarify.
Aiken is being a relativist. Catholicism is a religion based on principles and standards. It is not about comparing, "oh this "pope" is not so bad as this other pope." (Aiken's arguments here even fail enormously). There is simply no way that respects Faith and Reason that Bergoglio is a valid pope. It is a simple proof by contradiction. Believing Bergoglio is a valid pope means that you have to believe that Jesus is a liar and not who he claims to be, because under bergoglio that gates of hell have prevailed against the Church in the form of a complete collapse of the authority and trustability of the papacy.
@CatholicDefender-bp7my that sounds like something a cult member would say. This is the kind of unquestioning attitude that leads to never ending abuse scandals.
@p.doetsch6209 no authority? It elementary logic. The kind of ideas you are now pushing are cult-like. This is the kind of thinking that leads to world-wide child abuse scandals.
Praying for Pope Francis in my Rosary. Thank you for continuing to make clips. Your Jimmy Akin episode is my favorite of the year besides the Dr. Carrie Gress one!
With your rosary.......just like the pagans.
@@jsharp9735 Hope you have a Happy Friday!
@@JohnHenrysaysHi Nothing shakes faith in mystery Babylon for the true believers ! You too !
Horrible Histories is the absolute best! Great for Homeschoolers.
The protestant church I was in believes in this "soul sleep". That's why is so hard to explain to my family why catholics pray to saints.
Playing AC Brotherhood currently and fighting the Borgia 😂
I would do anything to be able to play through the Ezio Trilogy for the first time again
My immediate thoughts went to AC Brotherhood when he said Borgia
@@holdenedwards I had only played the newer AC and when I heard the first ones were way better I went to my local nerd store and bought a great condition ps3 and a couple old AC games for like $100 lol
Sadly enough when I saw the title of the video I thought of Assassins Creed 2 and Brotherhood hahaha
I played all 3 Ezio games but wasn't able to complete a single one LOL.
Thanks much for this video.
Great historical context to help diminish the alarmism around Pope Francis.
I thought this video was about pope Francis
History will Judge Francis. We can have concerns to be sure but it is not our decision. It is why we have a Church.
But there was St. Francis Borgia, the greatest Borgia of them all… descended from the Borgia Pope.
The dark story we know about Alexandre VI comes mostly from one source, Joanne Burchard, who later revealed that he hated the Borgias, and spied for the future pope Julius II, with the promise he would become bishop of Orta. With all due respect, given that the source is not neutral, it is then legitimate to reconsider what we know about his pontificate, because the popular conception is merely a Hollywood exaggeration deriving from a narrative that was already an exaggeration of his crimes.
Good point. However, the source not being neutral (and some would allege that no source can be neutral) wouldn't be enough to dismiss everything that source has to say on a particular subject. It does call for more "due diligence", like looking for sources that contradict the first one and evidence for/against each claim, preferably from yet other sources and even better if any evidence can be confirmed/refuted by objective, tangentially related facts.
Just sharing my two cents.
Pope Alexander VI - at least in his defense of the temporal interests of the Church - was one of the greatest and most successful popes of all time.
Years ago, I wrote a series of posts about him, trying to put him in a positive light. I learned more information after writing them, and I changed opinions, and I became an even bigger admirer of him.
Last year, I went on a sort of pilgrimage to Valencia, Xàtiva, and Gandía. ❤
One day, I will finish revising that series, this time probably just into one big post.
@@MatthewOlson This is fascinating. Do you have a link to it?
I love that Jimmy knows about horrible histories. Such an entertaining and interesting way to learn history. I know it was my favorite history books growing up
While it seems unlikely, I always wonder if God wanted Benedict IX to be the Pope for some reason and there was a Jonah parallel going on where he didn't want to be Pope and God kept leading him back to it.
Benedict probably viewed the papacy as more of a powerful political office than a holy office. He was 20 when his dad installed him as pope, lost the office in a military conflict; regained it in a counter offensive; sold it to his relative to marry his cousin; then regretted his decision and got it back and died at 43.
Which Pope in History has caused more doctrinal, pastoral and theological confusion amongst the clergy and the laity would be the right title. Wonder if Matt was interviewing someone like Ralph Martin, if he would be getting different answers than Jimmy Akin.
We pray but the laity needs clarity, so ok to speak up & seek clarification. Souls at stake. This is no game.
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i mean you could say that the saints will pray for us in the future but as they are praying to God and God can apply the grace they are requesting at any point in time
Amen, my point exactly
Each Pope has a history. How interesting
it would be to learn about each of them.
Provide the standard “Bishop in obedience”
then evaluate.
But then how can you go with pope infallibility???!!!!
The Pope cannot teach heresy, is not related to the way they behave. A golden coin passed through dirty hands does not reduce its value
I am an evangelical who doesn’t believe the pope is legitimate leader of the church,but I believe they do hold the position that their edicts and writings are infallible, not their behaviors. Papists are still wrong to follow him, just an easy straw man to be confused about for non-romanists.
Been studying the Benedict IX papacies. It's a totally wild period with serious consequences for how we view just "what" a pope is - on account of how it shows us "how" one can become pope (viz., pushing out the other guy - there are other cases but the 11th century is just chock full).
It’s Francis.
Childish. The Roman Catholic church and the Western Europe gone through countless horrible Popes, Roman purges, Pagan massacres, Islamic invasion, Mongolian invasion were the Christian world was almost eliminated, countless corrupt clergy, bishops, The Schism and the Protestant movement where it led to numerous sectarian violence and wars...
Yet, the Catholic church survived more than 2 thousands years. The most influencial religion in history and the prime force that shaped the modern world, that even other, much older religions would constantly compare itself and adjust itself to it, but never the other way around. And is still Is the most fastest growing Religion today with more convert that are still unaccounted.
By comparison Pope Francis is on the way to sainthood! Read some history on the papacy. lol
You're one hundred percent correct@@TrixRN
What a disgusting thing to say, would you talk about your father like that?
@@kurtnotafed4645 ok liberal
I heard some where that newton might have had a similar view on the soul. Though I could be wrong. But even so by the 17th to 18th century this was an odd view.
The Borgia libel was refuted by Mgr Peter De Roo many years ago: we need to stop this nonsense...
still not as bad as bergoglio
Who else googled these pope
I mean there was a whole show about the Borgias...
There are two
And this is what jimmy thinks is the worst pope?? And says “Dwarfs what is going on right now”. Huh ????!!!! LOL
Horrable Histories was a kid's TV show....very funny
I honestly clicked on this because I thought it said “The Worst Poop EVER!” 😮 I was intrigued, but still a good video
Matt hasn’t seen Horrible Histories and doesn’t know what skulduggery means? C’mon Matt, where have you been?
"The WORST Pope EVER!" - is sitting Pontiff.
Francis is the true heretic Pope.
Ratio, sorry. Francis I is 266/266
There have been Popes with poor moral character. But Francis is unfortunately the worst Pope for his inability to guard tradition and knowingly create ambiguity.
lmao
So ambiguity is worse than buying the papacy, believing in Christian mortalism, promiscuity, violence, etc. 😂 Get ur head on straight RT/Sede
Correct.
borza? dopici
The worst pope was the apostle Peter. You don't find a pope who met our Lord in flesh and was able to deny him. But it had to be so, so you don't wory due to some actions of these later popes. No one will be worse than Peter.
@@bethmcmullan7686ohh nice, depend on the hermeneutics, you are both right.
@@bethmcmullan7686peters primacy amongst the apostles begins when he received the keys to the kingdom in Matthew 16:18-19
I’m not sure Peter’s sin, from which he sincerely repented, is worse than the remorseless corruption of other popes. To claim so is to not have an understanding of God’s grace, in my opinion.
St. Peter wasn't pope when he denied Jesus. And his repentance was almost immediate. You can't judge a papal reign by something that was done before it began, no matter how egregious.
Would you say that St. Paul is one of the worst Saints because he started off persecuting Christains? Peter repented and changed, so I would say measuring him by his falls is incredibly unfair. It may be the worst thing a Pope has ever done, but overall Peter has done way more for the church than anyone.
It’s sad to see these videos pop up on my feed when I know that it’s a sin-a horrible sin-to belong to a religion that blesses gay couples. It’s hard to give it up, but ultimately I worship Christ, not man.
Ok, heretic. What's a horrible sin is Apostasy from the Faith.
@@PaulDo22 not apostasy from a religion that blesses gay couples. You should follow Christ, not a religion that spits in God’s face
@@elijeremiah1058 Lol, yes I'll listen to you! How could I not have realized it sooner? Who are you again? An Apostate like Martin Luther before you?
@@PaulDo22 Show me in the Bible where it says the Church can bless gay couples.
@@elijeremiah1058Show where in Scripture it is called the "Bible". You are a hypocrite.
The present Pope is the worst ever !
Jesus have mercy on us sinners !
Just become Orthodox
We get the religious leaders we deserve.
How is he worse than the Popes mentioned here. lol
@@Nicolas-tf1ub I think many feel that way, because we live & breath in a world of mass communication (phone, tv, news, internet, social media ... The mass of confusion gets around the world in seconds, and we don't have the leadership #s and dedication to correct & clarify.
I have had this argument with a very famous priest these days...for me, its the Borgias
Seriously,Matt, for a Catholic you seem to have such a limited understanding of church history !!
Aiken is being a relativist. Catholicism is a religion based on principles and standards. It is not about comparing, "oh this "pope" is not so bad as this other pope." (Aiken's arguments here even fail enormously). There is simply no way that respects Faith and Reason that Bergoglio is a valid pope. It is a simple proof by contradiction. Believing Bergoglio is a valid pope means that you have to believe that Jesus is a liar and not who he claims to be, because under bergoglio that gates of hell have prevailed against the Church in the form of a complete collapse of the authority and trustability of the papacy.
Incorrect.
@CatholicDefender-bp7my that sounds like something a cult member would say. This is the kind of unquestioning attitude that leads to never ending abuse scandals.
@p.doetsch6209 really? Please feel free to make your point.
@@davidmascarenas9830It's not an argument. It's a statement of fact. You have no Authority.
@p.doetsch6209 no authority? It elementary logic. The kind of ideas you are now pushing are cult-like. This is the kind of thinking that leads to world-wide child abuse scandals.
Francis is the worst
You’re insane.
What???