Repairing your Auger Motor Mount (Pit Boss Pellet Smoker)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2021
- Have you ever had smoke coming out of your pellet hopper on a Pit Boss or Traeger Pellet smoker? If so, you may have done some damage to a small plastic motor mount for the auger. Here is a quick and inexpensive fix and better than the original design, if I do say so myself.
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Didn’t see anybody make the comment yet but that melted plastic was not put there by the factoryto hold the motor. It was a nylon bushing that went in the small tube just behind the auger. It melted during one of your last burnback fire. The motor normally just sits there supported only by gravity. After the fire melted your bushing out, it left enough play on the auger shaft to allow the motor to turn all the way around. Make sure you purchase another bushing and replace it. It takes all the load of the pellets pushing forward instead of the shaft of the motor.
Wow. Thank you so much John. This is very helpful and makes a ton of sense. Do you know or happen to have a link to where you can buy one of the bushings for these?
The reason I knew that was the bushing right off the bat is because I had the exact same thing happen on my camp chef grill. I thought the same thing at first, what the heck is all this melted plastic stuff. Didn’t occur to me that they would use plastic on the end of an auger that feeds wood into a fire. The first two gears in the heated auger motor were also plastic and were melted at the bottom in the gear case on the auger motor.
I got my bushing straight from the camp chef. It was the least expensive of all the options I looked at. Not sure if pit boss uses the same size bushing but you might want to call the product support for your grill. They might send you one under warranty.
A search for “pit boss auger bushing” should get you close to what you’re looking for.
John this is a really helpful comment, thanks.
Agree.
Y’all just saved me a metric 💩ton of frustration and stress. Thanks boys! 🙏🏻
This Pitt Boss design is beyond bad. So this modification is MUCH needed! Good work!
I got a PitBoss from the neighbor who upgraded. The unit had been sitting for awhile and the pellets were nasty in the bin and auger shaft. Replaced the control panel and cleaned it all out (new learning curve). Pellets will need attenton in future do to humid area.
I was curious about the motor mount and was suprised something like this was not factory, this one had done a spin or two...
Used your meathod and working great!
THANK YOU + James
Glad to hear it worked well for you. It is pretty simple and certainly helps hold things in place well. Congrats on the new grill and the nice thing is replacement parts are fairly inexpensive.
Hey man! Repost this video with description pit boss catching fire backwards, how to fix and replace damaged parts. This video is amazing! I’ve been working on this grill since the first month. Thank you! Very helpful
Great suggestion on adding those key words to the search and reposting.
I have to say that the Pit Boss Pro Series 1100 was a Christmas gift to me 3 years ago and it has been the bane of my existence. I have taken it apart to free a blocked anger more times than I care to remember. The thermostat has malfunctioned causing he fire pot to fill and overheat causing gaskets to melt, portions of the barrel to become white or and bake the finish off and barrel heat diffuser to delaminate. The inability to dial in temperatures less than 50 degrees at a time is a design flaw. I am waiting for the snow to stop here in VA today to drop in a replacement motor and have just put in a 10 gauge steel diffuser to hopefully fix the 125 degree swing in temps I get from left to right. My Oklahoma Joe offset charcoal barrel using the minion method has returned as my go to method of low and slow cooks. The Pit Boss cooks a good burger or bbq chicken
Wow. You had your fair share of problems with it. I’ve had a few with one improper shut down that overheated the fire pot and melted the bushing on the auger drill bit. I didn’t wanted to secure the motor better because I felt like it was a little too loose so I built a motor mount to hold the motor more secure. But other than that I haven’t had any real problems short of when the hurricane hit everything and it soaked and got wet and clogged up so I had to take it all apart and at that point in time the motor on the blower fan was damaged, but it’s hard to blame Pit Boss with this thing sitting in 48 hours 150 mile an hour winds, and 30 inches of rain. Glad to hear the Oklahoma Joe it’s been a winner for you. I’m not used one of those yet.
Great video ! The auger motor on my Victory grill has a substancual wobble, I believe you just provided the 'fix'.
That is great mews. Glad it lrovided some inspiration. There are links in the description for the motors and augers. If you order from those sites, Amazon pays me a stipend (no impact to your cost). Thanks for the comment.
My motor just failed also, found the same issue? I can't believe engineers approved this.
After I recorded this o realized that block of white plastic was actually the bushing that literally melted out of the auger tube. Here is a link to get a new bushing. I still this the motor mount kade on this video is awesome ad I am glad I did it, but I also had to replace the bushing in mine. Here is a link to get one quickly. amzn.to/3QkfKPg
LOL when you said you've had it 2 years I felt pretty good. Mine is 4 years old and now I have to take it apart for the first time due to not cleaning it the same as you and having the auger seize. Thanks for the video and the tips.
Yeah my lack of cleaning proactively has dinged me more than once. Lol.
@@Svdreamchaser well I just tore mine apart and it needs a new motor. I can get a new one for under $50.00 so other then waiting for it to come in at least it won't break the bank.
Again thanks for the video. It helped me tear it apart and find the problem.
Thanks, I'm repairing a pitboss now
I hope this is helpful. I have a few videos on repairs on them.
Thanks a great tutorial. Beed down for 2 weeks will try it👌💯💯💯💯
You will be able to fix it I am sure.
@@Svdreamchaser 💯
In the pro series vertical (PBV4PS2), they use brackets, looks like for this very reason!
Ah. Maybe that is why. The good news is that they changed the system to something more secure than melted plastic. Lol.
Awesome video bruh! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
I hope it helps.
Great video !! I just had a self inflicted mess myself. What began as an auger jam but went straight downhill from there. You mentioned alot of the issues I faced in this video.
I dropped the pellet box and in doing so (because the wires were wire wrapped pretty tightly) ended up pulling a wire out from the board which went to the probe.
Once I pulled the auger and removed the jam, I plugged it in and heard “pop”, what I at first thought was just the 5amp fuse ended up being a fried board due to the bare wire from the probe I’m assuming.
I ordered a new board and replaced it ($50), got everything plugged back up and it fired up but the auger was not turning, the cooling fan for it was. As a mechanic I knew just what I was facing. I took off the auger motor and opened it up. Yep, broken teeth on the gears creating a “dead spot” 🤦🏻♂️ I ordered a new auger motor ($25) and will be replacing it.
Bottom line here was my negligence in removing all the pellets after each burn created the jam due to high humidity or moisture making it into the auger tube. I delayed shutting it down thinking the auger would eventually turn with me poking the jammed pellets free. In that time the gears were tearing themselves apart. Lesson learned !! $75 to get me back up and running didn’t seem like a bad sacrifice though.
The loosely connected auger motor had me wondering as well. I was thinking, did they purposely do this so it would have some give in such circumstances as an auger jam ? With the motor mounted so tightly now wouldn’t the gears take the immediate brunt of any malfunction ? And/or the auger pin ?
I still believe it’s a good idea. Thank you and I love the video !!
Wow. Very interesting and similar to my experience (short the loose wire, that sucks that it fried the control board). To your point 75$ isn’t horrible in the grand scheme of a $700 grill. That said I have learned a few things after this experience. The white blob i removed thinking it was a stopper or mount for the motor was actually a melted bushing that goes in the auger sleeve. It was like a $5-10 part so well worth it. Also you likely now know this but I didn’t see you mention it so wanted to point it out. With the motor off you can remove the auger and clean up any wet or burned pellets in the tube that may have been preventing it from turning. Thanks for the nice words on the video and glad you got yours up and running. I need to spent the money in a new board at some point because I can no longer read the display in really bright sunlight but another day another job. Lol
Oh yeah, I pulled out the auger and bushing and cleaned the auger tube very good with a brush attached to a drill 😂
I feel like I could totally rebuild one of these things now if I had to, I think I’m already halfway there. Mine is a 820D but they are all pretty my the same mechanically.
@@jimmunhall I know it's been a year, but I recently had an auger jam on my 820D which, I presume, stripped the gears in the electric motor. I ordered and replaced the motor today but, just like you did, managed to let a loose wire contact a part of the grill, causing some sparks and resulting in a non functioning grill. The 5x20 fuse if shot so I'll throw a replacement in and hope for the best but suspect I'll need a new board as well.
The motor does seem to kind of hand from the auger a bit and I'm wondering, if you've added this mount has there been any issues and if you'd recommend it? Thanks
@tyjoseph5440 i have not had any issues with the motor mount scenario. I don’t know that is because my new mount is better or not however.
I installed a new control board and auger motor and I’m back up and running. I basically just made a bit of a wedge for the motor to sit on and my grill has been running better than it has in a few years. If I have it apart again, if got everything I need to throw this mount on. I like the idea
This is a cool idea but I would make one suggestion to take a picture of the wiring so you can reconnect the wires right or just make a list of which wires connect to which wires.
Man i couldn’t agree more!!! I do that now all the time and kicked myself for not having taken a picture before starting this work. 😊
I use different color paint 🎨 pens 🖊 to mark electrical connections, momma's fingernail paint will work in a pince, jut let the paints dry before disassembly!..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 👋🤠
Great video, just really well done. I just replaces my auger motor that had burnt out due to an auger jam. The motors are really cheap guys but please check the factory polarity. I 'plugged and played' mine but the factory has reversed the plurality and it blew after 15seconds.
Oh no. I bought a new auger bushing too. I will be doing a video on that soon too.
🔥Thank you very much for sharing this tremendous IDEA 💡🔥!!!
One additional tip I found later is that there should be a bushing in there as well. Mine melted out and they are only about $10 on Amazon. If you do this go ahead and add one of those of yours has melted out.
I hope #Pitboss is paying attention ☝️☝️☝️☝️
I hope so too. This one got me 2 times since I have had my grill. I think what causes this is not having the firepot cleaned of ashes and it allows the pellets to be sitting too close to the auger feed drop in the firepot. But I agree, there is something they can likely do to improve this.
Thanks for the info. Mine was binding and tried a few things but it kept failing. I hope this works
I hope it helps. Glad you found the video useful.
Why did you have the screws at different heights? What is the reason? Also, could you use a longer screw and a nut on the bottom?
Yes you could absolutely have used a longer bolt with a nit on the bottom. I did it this way because I wanted the part i turned or removed to be on top for ease of maintenance so I used a shorter bolt into a female to female connector. Different sizes were just because I used the bolts i had handy :).
I've seen on yours and other videos where all of the wires are disconnected. The only disconnect you need to make is the red power leads to the motor. Additionally, there is no need to remove the entire bottom grill of the hopper. The four screws on the side and the 2 on the bottom closest to the side of the grill will suffice. Mine had a little more play than I liked so i just super glued some washers to the plate under the motor
That’s a great point. The first time I took mine apart several of the wires were all bundled together with tie wraps, and I had to take the bottom gray off to cut the tie wraps that were holding the wires bundled. I think it’s now just habit that I take the bottom grate off, disconnect all the plugs, and then unscrew it from the side of the grill. But you bring up a great point if you’re careful, you can certainly do that without worrying about damaging any of the wires. I like have any extra room so I think I’ll probably keep doing it this way just because it gives me a little bit more working space especially when I’m not sure where everything plugs in and unplugs
It was comforting to know once you take these apart, most of the parts to do repairs are fairly inexpensive and available right on Amazon.
put a new controller on my rancher 700 now the aguger is running backwards any ideas
Likely one of the connections backwards. I am not clear of this model but reverse polarity on DC will run a motor backwards.
I`m having the same issues ,, I had cleaned everything out and I got the same problem again ... I have new motors coming and I hope that1ll do it ...
I hope so too. Clearing that darn feed tube channel is tough when it gets wet pellets in there for sure.
I have exact same smoker. There is clearly a flawed design of the auger. The motor is not attached with no bracket. It is completely free and only using a single panel it is laying on as a leverage when rotating. All this while the fan is attached with a bracket and 4 screws. Who would think?
Someone made a comment earlier that the white glob I saw is the bushing that goes in the motor side of the auger shaft. Or should I say ‘was’ as I think it melted during an improper shutdown. I think they were right. Here is a link tot he bushing. I haven’t installed it in mine yet but ordered it and have it here now. amzn.to/3ap28ji
Great video. Uh...just asking? Did that plastic (that melted, prompting the metal bracket mod) serve to prevent a potential ground out (in the event of a short) to rest of metal grill body? Shock risk? Add some hi-temp "caulk" between metal to metal contact? I'm not a electrician. So maybe nothing. Just asking
Really good question. I don’t think that was the reason because it didn’t isolate the motor from the frame of the grill but rather just globes around the back half of the motor but to be candid I never thought of that. I am just considering it now based on your comment. Luckily I have all of this plugged into an outdoor gfci so think that any short would trigger an immediate cut off of the plug power but really good point for sure and something others should consider doing anything like this for themselves.
No, the new models don’t even have that plastic. There is now a hard plastic bushing in the auger insert area to keep the auger and mirror in line.
The motor now just torques against the base loosely.
Edit: that melted plastic was the bushing 😅
Question. I just bought a 1100 pro combo. Just put it together today. The auger doesn't turn. I primed it and got fire. However the auger still won't turn. So I took off the bottom plate to look at the connection. I see the little white fan from your video. It wasn't turning. I pushed it a little and there it goes. Fan moving auger moving. Problem solved? No. When auger stopped moving it won't restart unless I got under and give fan blade a push then again as long as the auger light is on when I push the fan I get auger movement. Ideas? Or just see what the warranty will cover.?
If it is new I would take the warranty as something doesn’t sound right. It almost sounds like the motor has a dead spot in it and spinning it by hand gets it moving past that “dead” spot.
Looks like that plate the motor sits on is leaning back. Does that plate tighten from a mount somewhere so it’ll sit level with the plate so it won’t spin? Don’t own one but will very soon.
The plate isn’t leaning back so wonder if it is camera angles.
Thanks for these videos. I'm going to get the black series version of this same grill in a couple of days and your videos have been very helpful in my decision! One question for you, do you have a cover for this grill and if so what type?
I do. I have a link for the one we used. It lasted us about 19 months and then started to tear at some of the wear points but it is a must have if you keep it outside in my opinion. Side note. I smoked a brisket today for 14 hours and it is sooo good.
I can’t seem to find the link of the one I got. Check to see if this one fits your specific model, I would hate to steer you wrong but this is what mine is like. amzn.to/3IWzQJ8
Why did you put your two couplers at different heights ?
Not knowing how much torque there was on the motor I thought that it would potentially be a bit more secure that way. Likely wasn’t required.
My main fan, pot fan is making a tapping sound? Any ideas? This is a pretty new grill.
The blower fan? You may want to pull it apart and see if you have any wires that may be bumping up against the motor or blades. My auger also made a tapping sound and it was the motor and where it mounts to the base. It was mounted in plastic or something and it would lift up a corner of the motor as the auger rotated and then tap when it came back down. It made the noise about once every few seconds. You may want to try that.
Take a look at 3:14 in tot he video and you may see what I mean about that white block of plastic that used to hold the motor firm and was no longer doing so.
Thankfully I haven't had this issue yet, but I think when/if I do I will certainly just use this fix instead of trying anything else. One question though.....you were very deliberate/specific about off-setting the spacers on each side, what was the reason for that (I am sure there was one the way you talked about it)? Thanks for another great video (trying your smoked cream cheese this week lol)!!!!
I was very specific about the gap between the motor and where I draw the holes because of the width of the barrel nut connector. I wanted to make sure that I didn’t do it so close that there wouldn’t be room for that barrel nut to actually touch the side of the motor to help hold it securely in place. I hope that makes sense
What about a u-bolt or shackle bolt?
I chose to go with a different route to Bolt on a bracket mainly because of the round end of a ubolt. I was a little bit worried that it might stick up to tall above it and only be holding the motor on those corners where the circular part of the ubolt touch the square frame of the motor. It would probably work I just want a different path.
What’s the green wire for?
Assuming I know what part of the video your seeing it, I believe all the ones you see in this video is the ground wires. There are several that are connected at the chassis screws.
The solution is way easier. Open your raincap so it can breathe.
What is the "RainCap? you mentioned?
@@Svdreamchaser on the right side, it keeps rain out of the smoke stack.
@goocherrific oh. Yes the smoke stack. It is open and this was really a problem with me not cleaning the fire pit out so they smolders to high up off the bottom and caught the auger pellets on fire or smolder. Completely my fault.
They make a bracket you can buy for this exact reason about $20
Awesome. I did t know they made one too.
Pit boss doesn’t make it but some guy does. I just installed it on mine. I had a similar issue with my auger constantly being jammed
I'm just guessing, but I think the free floating motor is by design, because there is a certain amount of inherent wobble in the auger shaft. The free floating motor is allowed to move to compensate for the auger wobble. If you watch the motor, you actually see it move in and out as the auger wobbles.
True but I later found out that plastic “Base” was actually the melted bushing.
My question is if I'm going to pay that kind of money for a grill, why in the heck would I want to do? The upgrade is myself to me. It's shoddy craftsmanship for sure. I'm not buying that grill now, but that guy did do a great job of upgrading the motor mounting situation. I guess we're going to look at other barbecue grills for sure
I think you’ll find the quality here is similar to many other manufacturers. This was just a mod by which upgraded and make it a little bit more secure. This grill has worked great for us us and still something we use multiple times every week now for over three years.
That plastic is a melted bushing. Not a mount
100% correct. Someone pointed that out and I have since scraped that old blob out and replaced it with this new bushing. YAOAWE Auger Motor Bushing... amzn.to/3JSF62L