Radiant Intimacy of the Heart: Cynthia Bourgeault
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2017
- Episcopal priest and author of seven books on the Christian spiritual tradition, Cynthia Bourgeault endears herself to her SAND audience with this enlightening talk on the Christian contemplative tradition. She points out that esoteric Christianity recognizes that nondual perception is not possible until the mind is in the heart, and describes the tradition's understanding of the heart as an organ of spiritual perception. In this way she returns the Christian contemplative tradition to where it belongs - as one path in the rich field of contemporary nondual spiritual practice and understanding.
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How blessed I feel for the gifts this lady has brought to my life.
She says it so well.
Contemplation is truly the work of love . Genius mind is not enough.
Inspiring, brilliant talk, so great to hear about the difference between the notion of the heart as the seat of passions (intense emotions) and the notion that the heart is in fact a way of being in a tender, open, wise and loving way. The word of "conscience" in Hungarian literary means the "knowing of the soul". This talk coincides with Iain McGilchrist's left and right brain hemisphere knowing and Stephen Porges' polyvagal theory that evidences the neural knowing and therefore centering the knowing of interconnections in the heart.
Thank you, this was clear and beautiful....
"Attention of the Heart" to recognize the divinity of Christ, His teachings, and entertaining the brain waves down into the heart. "Attentioon of the Heart" is a "meta" cognitive awareness - a unique type and level of consciousness that must be experienced to "understand" it with the nonconceptual mind akin to an " intimacy with God. "
How on earth I did not hear this speech long ago. How bless I feel too with this opportunity.
divine timing. I needed to revisit this wisdom. much love
Thanks for the uplifting and inspired talks. I apreciate all the dedications that were involved to produce a presentation such as this one!
This is the best talk I’ve ever seen
A beautiful articulation.
I am as much a 'we' as I am an 'I',- For, I am a mind that thinks, a heart that knows, a body that feels, a vision that sees and an action that flows. All are a cooperative. N o t a competitive. We re all in this together. I cannot (nor would I want to) shut out my mind no more than I would want to shut out my heart, body and so on.
_brilliantly clear. We thank you; I thank you_
_you are 4th density harvestable. have you read the Law of One Ra Material yet, or?_
_Also, I might add that Dr Dan Segel (the founder of interpersonal neurobiology) goes into depth about a concept he calls m'we. (You and Me are a unity). You might be drawn towards either of these works, altho the first is literally stellar._
_Adonai_
possibly my favorite christian mystic
Our higher power or god lies within us beyond our ego only through experience going within and opening our heart can we find god
I love the point made at time stamp 15:70 I believe... completely supports Carolyn Myss' statement, "When the mind & heart don't communicate & aren't balanced/ in coherence, we won't have a spec of willpower (to actually practice beauties or whatever or guiding principles are).
(She's an expert in Energy Anatomy & teaching of chakras, also of how each one relates to one or a pair of the 10 Commandments & the 12 Seferot of the Jewish faith... fascinating info!)
Also, as I think was pointed out to some degree, science shows we have more nerve cells in & around our heart (neurites). Our Intuition/ gut instinct is always more knowledgeable than the limited computer brain, &, I fully believe it was Created this way as both the battery for receiving & storing all Love, Power & Wisdom given us by God every day, AS our 'daily bread', & as the initiator/Guide for the brain's ego personality to follow, NOT the other way around. When we've left the heart we've gone unconscious, back to believing we, not God are the one meant to be in Control of how Life shows up for each of us. Would be a laugh if it weren't sad. We're on our way though, especially with speakers & conferences like this one. Thanks for supporting our conscious evolution!
You think the ego personality is more influenced by the intellect than by the physical body (?) Hunger, fight or flight, need for sleep . . . are all random ideas imposed on the body by the intellect (?)
+Arbiter The ego comes from the mind speaking, and not the mind in the heart. When the mind is in the heart, it speaks love and compassionate services to others.
Aren't the Ten Commandments Jewish?
@@pearlyrose8214 I doubt that. Ego can come from both unawakened mind ( thoughts) or unawakened heart (emotions). Ego is far deeper than just a superficial thoughtstructure.
So much resonates in my own journey in/of Presence, and Loving Kindness in the process of transformation from a fear rendered, ego projected dualism, a deep remnant of my fundamentalist christian upbringing, for which I am so grateful and Graced. One question. Why is there such an emphasis(not just here) on higher and lower levels of consciousness, vs other available imagery, Those words are loaded with implications of better or worse, judgement, moral ego certitude of right or wrong, egoic projections of winning and loosing, or western christian fundamentalist heaven or hell. Seems to feed the ego need to see and protect from other in terms of higher is better and lower is not, vs all is one in the same as we are in the image. Probably just my context powering thru. But would be nice not to have to translate or look so hard to see thru.
Cynthia Bourgeault quote highlights from this video: “The real meaning of ‘contemplation’ is not resting in stillness, but it designates a path of luminous knowledge-knowledge of an extremely high order of intensity, and coherence, and magnitude. It's not content-free by any means; it's simply that the content is so high, and so ordered, and so intense, and so brilliant that it tends to overwhelm the faculties of our usual rational mind and the mind falls still and silent before it.”
“Contemplation is the closest equivalent in the Western Christian experience to what's known in most of the world as ‘nonduality.’”
“Steady, non-state, non-dual perception is not possible until the mind is in the heart.”
“The Christ teaching comes from a nondual level, and you can't run it when you're running a dualistic program.”
“The nature of heart-seeing is that it's intrinsically moral-this is not because of what it sees but how it sees.”
Beginning around 25:00, she says, “I touched the hem of this (golden, warm tender intimacy) garment once during my practice of centering prayer...all these years I wasted, looking for an intimate relationship...”
WOW!!!!!!!!!
The Golden Thread has created sequelae to break the Agro paradigm! MAMS@
Shine Bright!
MWM
Opinions and more opinions, no drops of truth to drink, for there are none...
Deep.
Well let's face it. It's not only the Christian mystical traditions being 'dumbed down' . For centuries' an enlightened one ' pointed towards some Old Easterner ,meditating for decades *n cloisters or caves to obtain enlightenment, Did it Take me hours of seeking in secondhand *bookshops to find something about these holy men... These days It seems a new 'spiritual best seller ' pops up weekly .Often written by some twenty-some kid, willing to share the secret of non duality & total enlightenment he/she experienced while backpakking in India for two weeks. His/her insights NOW available in the pocket version just 9.99 exc, :))
All life is ever expanding with more refined and efficient information. we are b e t t e r today than we were yesterday, and not as we re going to be tomorrow. There s nothing to 'go back to' regarding trying to get back our care/consideration etc. We have not re-gressed. We are life, and as life, are ever expanding with all other life. would you like to be back in 1920? , or 1560? , regarding human rights etc. Blaming a n y t h i n g for your/our fear, pain and suffering I S suffering! You want to blame something? Blame everything! To blame all is to accept all. The question then becomes the answer, and the concern becomes presence. Heartmindedness.
In Quran The Creator stated that the heart is the mind. أم لهم قلوبٌ يعقلون بها
15:00
Can't find anything wrong with this speech
What the heck is intimacy without the other but self annihilation? It is egoistic narcissism.
Did she start her talk by trashing Thomas Keating or did I hear her wrong?
afraid she did :-(
@Craigus Irving mmh - I rather think she has not opened her mind but returned to pious ideology? completely misrepresenting TK as simple shortcut in the process...?
I just spent a week with her on these topics where the whole week was in tribute to Fr. Thomas and his teaching on divine therapy and his own excruciating final passage into nonduality. A book is forthcoming. All honor and glory was offered to Keating yet where over the decades corrections and variances of the path surfaced, as happens in time, not just with her own revelations but with those of such mystics as Bernadette Peters, who Keating originally rejected but came to understand as his own experience into No Self.
@@leewarren492 thoanks for including your comments; this space may not provide room for a fully differentiated argument weighing the different view, experiences and nuances. However, swiping TK off as superficial in the talk above was really off imho.
@@barbaras8838 I agree. I do not ever hear her talk about Adoration, which is a Roman Catholic practice. Having studied with Fr. T.K., I recall he conducted his meditation teachings and practice in the Presence of the Blessed Sacrament.
Krishna is within
'Believing' that humans are proprietarily afflicted with an inefficiency (ego) separate/distinct from all other life I S suffering! This taking sides, duality, blaming, competitiveness, thinking people are broken and need to be fixed,,. this is contrary to the very philosophy claimed to be embraced (All one, you re perfect, 'God' is all, nothing to fix,.). Speaking/lecturing/ trying to teach,., others from a position of claiming to be in posession of the 'divine truth' I S the very thing claimed as wrong!!!
Eh?
The contemplatives could very well be seen as moochers off of the generosity of the working class. That’s why Paul refused to live off of charity and continued in his day job. There is no such thing as a higher consciousness. That is Gnosticism. How do you know when you have this higher level of consciousness? When you have it! Thereby you see the non duality of the world through a duality. Word salad that only those on the inner circle understand.
Again copying Indian meditation and giving it western clothes. Appropriating everything Yoga, Meditation etc.
Really unwise to bring politics into this discussion. I guess by expressing her disdain for the "religious right" she means if you have some kind of mystical awakening and an epiphany of love and non-duality that makes it OK to kill your baby?
I like this. Seems all to easy to blame the past for the moment, and fear the future. I see when one enter spirituality from a position of pain, they ll use their 'spiritual warrior' to defend their new found 'truth' by attack all those others that j u s t don t get it.
The religious right by and large stands in the way of any kind of mystical approach. This is the case across cultures, as the right tends to prefer authoritarian power structures rather than personal gnosis, and also tends to prefer literalism to metaphor and symbol.
I don't understand the binary pairing of your equation.
It's obvious that this woman is really invested in being who she is. It overshadows everything else she has to say. It's really pretty embarrassing to watch . . .
How do you know if your assumption of her persona is true, its interesting because it didnt embarrass me at all, on the contrary I was inspired by the idea of the heart way of knowing. The oneness of Nonduality is not very realistic or even possible without love, and even if it was, it would not be worth striving for anyway....I think, but I could be wrong.
John Follis why would you not trust such openness?
Perhaps obvious to you. Not so to me.
Maybe you feel that way because her knowledge comes from a very certain authentic source and she doesn't feel a reason to be humble about what is not hers but God given knowledge.
@Craigus Irving: What you say may be a fact . . but one doesn't need to know that (external) fact to look and see that this is a bogus personality. It's easy (if one knows how) to discern when someone is speaking from personal experience and reflection . . . as opposed to simply mimicking something they've heard or read someplace else.
an incredible boring and uncaring/feeling SERMON. no wonder the spirit of christ has departed