My Grandfather knew that the Titanic was going to sink. He kept telling everyone but they just ignored him. In the end they threw him out of the cinema.
There were so many hero’s on that night and so many that showed courage and bravery. More than I can mention in this one comment, but I’d love to mention the electrical engineers who worked until they literally couldn’t to keep the lights on as long as they could for everyone. These men worked in one of the lower levels of the stern and never left at any point, they stayed, accepted death so others could have a chance. Such selflessness, true hero’s.
The saddest part was it was pitch black once the Titanic's lights went out just before she sank, and unlike in the movie the crew on the lifeboats didn't have any flashlights... so all they could do was hear was a very loud explosion around 30 seconds after the stern sank (air pockets exploded) and the cries and screams of people at sea which slowly died down as their lives ended. It haunted many of them forever.
I went to a Titanic exhibition in London. At the end, there were lists of all the passengers who died. I noticed that while the lists for the first and second class passengers were fairly short, the lists for the third class passengers and crew were much longer.
Rich and poor The few and the many what a surprise(!) Who belongs to who I wonder(?) 😑 Still, I have yet to go that museum, was it well worth it luv? (bro)
Have you considered that there were more second and third class passengers than first class? Locking poor people below deck was pure evil, not to mention the first few lifeboats were launched half full, but ultimately, there weren't enough lifeboats for everyone and you'd hope a first class ticket also paid for a space on a life boat. The blame lies with whoever decided to reduce the amount of lifeboats on board.
Some survivor accounts equate the sound of the mass amounts of people in the water screaming to the sound of a crowd cheering at a grand sporting event (such as a professional baseball game.) Some of these accounting survivors refraining from attending such events because of the traumatic reminder.
@@johnpartipelo8376my great granndma got her back beat out on the titanic and became pregnant only finding out a few months later, so technically the child she conceived on the ship was the youngest passenger/survivor.
@@dntlss You mean they appeared tougher.. The only reason people seemed "tougher" back then was because of their lack of mental health awareness, so they essentially just repressed their issues, which anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of psychology would tell you just how incredibly unhealthy that is to do. Believe it or not, people these days are actually much stronger psychologically speaking because they allow themselves to properly channel their emotions instead of just bottling everything up until it completely warps their personality and turns them into a disgruntled, bitter, and typically narcissistic person.
And rightly so. Since they were sitting in their lifeboats and listened to their relatives die in the ice-cold water. Without returning in time and rescuing at least a few dozen of them.
My great grandparents and great great grandmother had tickets for the Titanic and they traded another family for a earlier ship and that's how my family made it here to the United States. I had the luck of growing up with my great grandparents from Sweden and my grandmother Jenny Edlund told me the story when I was 14 one year before she passed away.
Milvina Dean was 2 months old at the time and died in 2009, she spent her life as a cartographer, she never remembered what happened on the Titanic and it's believed she was the youngest person on board, she and her siblings and mother made it out, her father died that night, her family were 3rd class passengers also so the fact she made it out was a very lucky occurrence, may all those who died that night and of course milvina herself rest in peace ❤
All those bad decisions are being made today under different circumstances. Save the rich and let the rest fend for themselves. This is what it has come to. It's time we fight back.
I avoided the movie because I knew it was going to be very dressed up. I never even took an interest but then I saw a YT video suggestion about the Titanic sinking and how it was much darker. Well I had to click on it because of the morbid attraction and now I'm interested in historical details that the movie would not have had.
I don't think I'll ever fully understand how we know so much about such a chaotic event that took place over 100 years ago in the middle of the ocean. Truly fascinating and awful that so many lives were lost in vain. RIP to all passengers who's journey ended in the deep that fateful night.
thanks to the treasonous straight withe male who jumped off into the lifeboad before all the women and children had a chance too. he lived to tell the tale
To survive the Titanic only to suffer again with 2 great Wars of unspeakable tragedies. I can’t even imagine how much pain they would have carried and how much strength they possessed to speak many years later about the horrors of the sinking and the loss of family, the trauma that lives vividly in their memories and being witness to the deaths of many many innocent strangers they never even met knowing their bodies will never be recovered and laid to rest and yet their screams of distress and for help live on through them is unbelievable. I have a huge amount of sympathy and respect for them. I hope they are all finally at peace with those they lost 🕊
Third class on the Titanic was actually considered far more comfortable and even luxurious when compared to third class accommodations on other ships. Sure, it's nothing compared to second class and first class, but the Titanic did try to make the journey nicer for third class passengers than was the "standard" of the day.
My favorite story of third verses first class was that the third class toilets had automatic flush while first class did not. This was because many 3rd class passengers had never used a toilet in their lives and didn't know to flush.
My great great grandmother Jessie was a survivor from the titanic on lifeboat 9. She was a second class passenger coming back from seeing her family in Scotland. Still crazy to hear some of her story passed down in my family about her experience.
I have to say, there are quite a few things in this video that are inaccurate. Such as the last survivor to die. If she was 97 in 2009, that means she wasn’t even a year old in 1912, not 9. And it wasn’t captain smith who told the Californian to shut up, it was Jack Phillips, the radio operator.
No one said 'shut up.' Phillips was using Morse shorthand, and probably actually sent 'DDD' which had a number of meanings, including 'clear the frequency.' Evidence subsequently given by Californian's operator, that he did not regard Phillips' signal signal as insulting, is confirmation of this.
@@gabrielkawa3477 "The origin of the claims that the “Titanic was unsinkable” are not altogether clear The Builders Harland and Wolfe, insist they never used the phrase, they claim the myth originated from misinterpretation of articles in the Irish News and the Shipbuilder magazine. They also claim that the myth grew after the disaster."
One thing that people should keep in mind is that nautical lifeboat regulations were just out of date at that point. Every ship basically had enough lifeboats for about half of the passengers. It wasn't like they were just being arrogant because they didn't think the ship could sink. This tragedy was actually pretty instrumental in getting the regulations updated.
Also, it was thought that the lifeboats would mainly be used to ferry passengers back forth to a rescue ship. They never thought the ship would ever encounter a situation where it would sink that quickly.
Extra lifeboats wouldn't have changed much about the outcome. The passengers were reluctant to enter the lifeboats in the beginning, which is the reason they started lowering partially empty lifeboats. The last lifeboats were deployed only moments before the titanic went under. Even with more lifeboats, they didn't have time to launch all of them. Maybe a few could've been saved if the lifeboats were cut loose with the hope they would float back to the surface, but the total number of saved would be minimal. I also believe that a faster abandon ship + more lifeboats would still result in roughly the same deaths. The passengers thought the ship was unsinkable and weren't interested in entering the lifeboats.
My rubber ducky toy ship in the 80's was unsinkable. No matter how many times I tried keeping it submerged at the bottom of the tub during bath time it shot back up to the top of the water every time. That ship was unsinkable.
Gotta point out on Ismay's behalf: he acted bravely for most of the evening. According to survivor's accounts in "A Night to Remember", Ismay spent nearly the entire sinking urging passengers to enter the lifeboats, throwing chairs and various forms of furniture into the sea for people to cling to, and only stepped into a lifeboat at the very last moment- less than twenty minutes before Titanic sank entirely. I'm not saying that the man's a hero, but I will say in his defense that he is certainly not a villain. And as for Captain Smith: according to survivors and crew, he DID order the crew to abandon ship. Marconi operator Harold Bride later quoted Captain Smith: "Men, you have done your full duty. You can do no more. Abandon your cabin. Now it's every man for himself. You look out for yourselves. I release you. That's the way of it at this kind of a time. Every man for himself." He was also quoted as saying "Be British, boys," several times throughout the evening. I believe it was in his character to give this order to a small number of his crew to then spread the message, especially to avoid further panic. As for his rapid rate of speed, consider that he had nearly thirty years of maritime experience working against the iceberg warnings. This wasn't the first time he sailed that route, in fact, he sailed the same route with the Olympic in 1911. To put the blame of the many deaths on his shoulders, to me, is ridiculous.
Regardless how you feel, it is his fault because he chose to keep the ship at full speed just so they could get to New York quicker than expected. If he actually listened to the iceberg warnings and favored safety over making headlines, he would have either significantly reduced speed or stopped entirely for the night. All of this could have been avoided, so it IS his fault.
@@LeeEverett1 He did listen to the warnings. He turned the Titanic southern to avoid hitting any bergs. He also told all of the crew to watch for bergs. That night was a strange one however as there was a mirage effect on the horizon. When he went to the bridge at 11:30 PM he looked out and he thought that he could see for miles, when in reality he was only seeing part of the image. The Titanic could see objects 30 miles before hitting them. When Murdoch spotted the berg it was only 30 seconds away. Captain Smith was not responsible for the weather that night nor was he responsible for the visibility. But he didn’t light all boilers that night and he directed the ship southern. He told the bridge to wake him if anything happened such as the need to reduce speed. So in reality regardless of how you feel, and regardless as to the movie you watched, Captain Smith did everything that he felt necessary, and everything that was required by the Maritime practice at the time. He was innocent and the video is farb.
The grilles or gates separating the classes were not everywhere and they where about waist high, so that people merely jumped over when it was sinking.
@@NewarkMale973 Real life and movies rarely are the same, in fact the gates separating the classes were easier to remove than a baby gate. They were never locked at all. All it took was simply lifting the gate up from its hinge and pushing it open. There are so many "facts" in this video that are wrong that it's not even funny.
I have to say, I’ve really been enjoying the latest videos you guys have been putting out. New writer on staff? All these 20+ minute videos have been great, especially the ones that break down the minute by minute, hour by hour, or year by year/century. These scenarios, hypothetically stories, and real life accounts have been fantastic!
If you ignore that most of the info vilifying Smith in this is wrong and at 11:33 they use a lusitania model (funnel color, the top of the bow being stepped down as it goes further to the stern, the entire stern section itself) and they portray the bow as rising at this timestamp even though it never rose because you know... its sinking.
@@someperson8953 Why is that a reply to my comment? It sounds like you are trying to argue against someone but there’s no comment here for that argument to be against. Did you mean to make it an independent comment but just posted in the wrong spot?
@@someperson8953 I just read the rest of the comment and I couldn’t help but to laugh at the end. You do know how leverage works right? As one side is being pulled down rapidly it will lift the opposite side up, causing it to sink in a position closer to vertical than horizontal. I could tell by the first 3 lines of your comment (which is where I stopped reading last time when I replied) that you weren’t very bright, since you were arguing against empty space, but reading the rest of it… wow! That’s all I can say about that. Sounds like you are an angry person with a chip on your shoulder and feel the need to knock people down with your superior knowledge because you were probably bullied in the past for being ignorant. Problem is, your superior knowledge isn’t very superior, so the trend continues and you just try harder… and round and round it goes. You need a hug.
Because it's bleak and dramatic and involving death. They have been going down this route a lot lately. People like violence and death, hence all the videos on last minutes of things or how a world crisis plays out.
I must point out that at the moment Ismay boarded a lifeboat, the deck was abandoned, all the passengers and crew were aft. If he didn't jump on the boat, it would have been yet another seat left empty. 400 more lives could have been saved had they actually filled the boats to capacity.
@@6xub. see, that's the problem; if he had pulled a woman or child out of the boat, then I would hate him. He jumped into the boat on its way down, nobody was getting in. HOwever, he's not innocent.
Sadly it was due to the chaotic Evacuation that led to the life boats not being filled much and some passengers thinked that it would be freezing to get on the boat on the middle of the atlantic early on the sinking and it led the early boats to leave the ship not being filled ether.
Heres the story of the first class child who died Her name was Helen Loraine Allison (she was 2 years old) She and her mom were put on to a life boat, but her dad and brother weren’t allowed on it because they were men. After a little while, her mom decided that she wouldn’t leave without her family, and got off the boat with Helen. But on the other side of the boat, her husband and son had already gotten onto a life boat (I think it was LifeBoat 10). Sadly, Helen and her mom passed in the sinking of the Titanic.
Oh really? This is purely destiny,what is meant to be ,will be.Thnx for this info,actually titanic stories are so fascinating, though there are so many marine disasters which claimed much more lives but titanic stands out.
“Cowardly men” no no no… no matter who you are survival is an instinct and how people respond to a situation like this is unique to each person. This was a real life disaster not a movie.. let’s say it again 👏Survival 👏is 👏an 👏Instinct
Well, you are right in a way, but codes like "Women and children first" are supposed to be based on chivalry, which by definition stands as the group of moral values that separate us from animals. Namely, you are supposed to be better than to act on pure self preservation, especially when more vulnerable people are in danger next to you
The Titanic actually did better than her designer predicted. When he saw the water and how fast it was coming in, he predicted that she only had 30 min before slipping beneath the waves. She remained afloat over 2 hours.
Many things allowed her to stay afloat that long like the calm seas and the fact that the front has lots of buoyancy. Combined with the shear luck that the port side was full of coal that balanced the Titanic water that was coming in from the starboard side
Many of us will never be in such a terryfying situation, therefore won’t understand the horror of realizing there is nothing you can do but to die. People do crazy things under stress and panic.
I agree. There is nothing cowardly about wanting to live a few more years in this world. We are all running out of time. There's nothing worse than facing an abrupt end to your existence. Everything you learned, everything you have experienced, all of the memories you hold in your heart, all of it being erased is pretty terrifying.
It was not a large tear; it was a series of small tears or gaps where rivets popped and actually measured about 12 sq. feet. Unfortunately, six compartments have been compromised: the forepeak, Cargo Holds 1-3, and boiler Rooms 6 and 5.
Got it, a tear big enough to sink the ship isn’t large, it’s small. Okay. So a large tear cuts the ship in two, a small tear sinks it. I guess a tiny tear would be one you can just get back to port half sunk but pumping out as fast as it’s coming in. I’m calibrated now.
The iceberg didn't cause a tear in the side but rather the sheer force (which was probably in the region of 3,000 tonnes per square inch) of the iceberg and Titanic colliding put so much strain on the steel plates of the forward hull that the wrought iron rivets in that section of the ship broke and compromised the integrity of the steel plates where they overlap. This allowed water to flow into her forward watertight compartments and boiler room 6 which condemned her.
The collision with the iceberg effectively used Titanic’s own momentum against her. Similar story with the Costa Concordia when she ran aground against an underwater rock formation.
@@Constance_tinople well that’s your opinion. My opinion is when a ship is in danger of sinking everyone should be allowed to a rescue boat. Not the rich first. Every life matters.
I went to a museum in Gatlinburg about this and it had so much things to really put in perspective of what it was like being on this boat from platforms angled to show how hard it was to hold on at 3 different times of the sinking to a pool with water set to be as cold as the ocean was that night
Britannic: Hello I am Britannic the more safe version of Titanic I can survive the same situation that Titanic encountered. 1916: Oh no my crewmen forgot to close my porthole windows and my captain made a mistake, welp I am dead.
jajajaja! even tho ist not real saying, still funny! ship go "haha i am mighty stronk ship, big expensive floating castle nothing can stop me!" *iceberg has joined the server*
@@dakotabynum5137 Titanic was actually really well designed for its time. Any other ship of the day would’ve sank in that exact scenario, and probably faster too.
@@dakotabynum5137 Titanic was absolutely state of the art and Thomas Andrews to this day is regarded as an absolutely masterful naval architect and a decent man, he spent his last hours helping people evacuate the ship. To suggest that he deserved to die is sick
The tale of the titanic always gives me chills. The images of the sunken titanic also make my skin crawl. So many dead, so little alive to tell the tale. Such an awful way to go too, I wouldn't wish the fate of any passenger on the titanic to even my greatest enemies.
This isn’t remotely fair. The ship DID NOT have metal gates separating the classes; all of them were waist high. There were metal gates on the ship, but those separated passenger areas from the crew areas, not the classes. Also, the crew, despite inexperienced, did a stellar job and were gallant in the face of death to the last. They were the group that suffered most; far worse than third class. Nearly all of them died. There was no mutiny or disorder on their part, and this is extremely rare.
@@Whitneypyant The gates were portable, so could easily be removed. In case of overbooking, the titanic could give third class passengers some cabins of second class and second class could be given a room of first class, portable gates allowed them to keep the classes separated. Even if these gates were in place and locked, each class had a two separate staircases which brought them to the deck. These staircases didn't have any gates. The stories about third class passengers being trapped by gates is a Hollywood myth. Testimonies of third class survivors only stated 1 gate on the deck of the ship where men were hold back. Women and children were let through, but many didn't think the ship would sink so they remained with their men.
I remember reading that the evacuation was going so slow that if the ship had had enough boats for everyone, they likely wouldn't have made much difference.
That's correct. They barely had the to launch the boats they had. Indeed the last two collapsibles werent even lowered. They were washed off the Boat deck as the ship sank below them. Perhaps if they had started the evacuation immediately after the colllision... But at that time they werent fully aware of the danger and were still assessing the damage...
I am infuriated to learn that the person who made the decision to not put enough lifeboats on board ended up taking a spot on one of the lifeboats. He's the reason so many people had to die. At the very least, he could given his spot to someone.
In 1912 the rule that you needed lifeboats for everyone wasn't a practice. They were meant to Tender. James Cameron did a trial and it was unlikely had there been enough, more would have been saved but they likely wouldn't have gotten them all off in time. This was the lesson from this. Lifeboats for everyone, when the Britannic sank in WWI no one died or it was minimal.
May be wrong, but I red somewhere that the man who was stearing the ship at the time it hit the iceberg was the one who went on the lifeboat. Someone on the lifeboat suggested that they go back to save some of the people in the water after the ship has submerged and he refused?
Not entirely true, James Cameron did a test and found that even if there were enough life boats it wouldn’t have helped save more lives because of how fast the ship sank. They wouldn’t have been able to deploy them all in time.
Anytime I listen to anything about this event it's mind-blowing.. as well mind-blowing that people with smaller wooden boats hundreds of years before had such success.
What will NEVER cease to amaze me about this travesty was how many different sources of virtually ignored WARNINGS that passed along regarding frigid temperatures and icy waters they were continuously sailing InTo.
You call them "cowardly men" that jump into the boat, but I guarantee you that you would've done the same thing given the chance, you would've saved your own life too given the chance.
Correction at 21:19, Millvina Dean was born on February 2, 1912. She was 2 months old, not 9 years old. She was the youngest passenger aboard the Titanic.
Correction also it wasn't Smith who said shut up old man , but it's poets licence for the guy doing the video emphasising Smith was not as sharp as he could of been
@@keithcitizen4855 Yeah, the one who said shut up, I'm working Cape Race was Jack Phillips, the older of the 2 wireless operators. He would die, but the younger Harold Bride would live, and even operated the wireless on the Carpathia after the rescue. (Jan Griffiths).
@@somestuff7228 She's done several interviews claiming that she remembers looking at her parents and seeing their worry, people panicking, etc. None of it is true though because no way she could remember, I think she just liked the attention and recognition of being a Titanic survivor honestly and she milked it.
It has been said that smith had been captain of many ships. Including the Olympic that hit something head on and had a hole in it twice and it still made it to its destination with no worry. That could be why he had such high hopes for the titanic. When it struck the iceberg he probably had that last ship he sailed in mind. So he didn’t think they needed to rehearse evacuation. He had been through that before.
If that has been said, it was said by someone ignorant of the facts. Olympic had been in one collision, when her starboard quarter was pierced by the bow of HMS Hawke. Olympic returned to Southampton for temporary repairs, before being sent to Belfast for complete ones. At the time, Smith was indeed captain of Olympic, but he was not 'in charge.' Olympic was in the Solent, and under the command of a Solent Pilot, as the subsequent court case made clear.
The alcohol in his blood likely kept it from freezing, also, being intoxicated, he probably kept moving, numb to the cold meaning he likely didn't quit moving keeping his blood flow up.
“Women and children first.” This was partly a reaction to at least 2 prior wrecks (the Artic and Atlantic or Pacific, forget which) where despite being passenger ships full of women and kids…..not a single woman or child survived, while many men did. In the first, the crew and a few gangs of men took the lifeboats and rowed off immediately, often not full, while in the second, off the coast of Canada, the ship was close enough to shore some men could swim to rocks through the cold water (if lucky and fast), but too rough for life boats, leaving women in big dresses and kids doomed. The fact that not one of the 300 -plus women or kids in each survived was considered pretty shameful, and changes were made. Just mentioning as it is not like women and kids always had it great.
Actually „Women and children first“ is called the Birkenhead drill (sinking of the HMS Birkenhead in 1852). The first account of the command was in 1840. It is an ideal of „British chivalry“.
If wee Jimmy Krankie had been onboard, he would have been the safest one there. Because when they called out “Women and children first!” he qualifies on both counts!
There are a lot of things that infographics missed here. Three things I've learned from history channels on here such as timeline, have said that captain Smith called for the lifeboats to come back and many didn't with only four going back for survivors, that Ismay was actually doing a lot to help with the evacuation before he got off, and that there was at least one lifeboat, lifeboat 6 I think, that was sent to the other side to the gangway door to pickup passengers but either the door was not open or there wasn't anyone at the door. Its a good piece in that it does get many things right, but it could have had some extra details to paint the full picture of what happened that fateful night
@@fnaffoxy1987 that was where there are conflicting reports. The crew and passengers on that lifeboat couldn't agree. Some said it was too high up and taking anyone aboard the lifeboat would swamp it causing it to overturn and become useless, some said it wasn't that high but still sealed and a few of them said it was underwater when they got there. Truth is, we will never know what the true story is, but its still worth mentioning as there was a lot more that happened that fateful night and getting the full story out there is the only way to honor all of the victims and survivors. For example, some people still believe that there wasn't a fire in one of the coal bunkers but it was admitted by surviving crew that there actually was. When you ask people why they don't believe it, they point at the movie not talking about it.
The John Jacob Astor you showed was *NOT* the John Jacob Astor aboard the Titanic; it was his great grandson, John Jacob Astor IV. The minimal research would show you the Astor you're referring to died in 1848, over 60 years before the Titanic's sinking.
A couple things were horribly inaccurate in the video. They claimed that it was the captain that told the Californian to shut up, when in reality it was the overworked wireless operators; the captain had nothing to do with it. Then they said it took a couple minutes for them to hit the ice once it was spotted, when in reality it was less than a minute. Then, they claimed that the water filled bow randomly started rising out of the water. No, just no. I usually highly respect this channel but they got so much wrong here.
About that wireless operator. He fixed the radio although Marconi company policy explicitly advised not to but to let a Marconi technician repair it... in the next harbour. So it's thanks to him that other ships were informed about the disaster at all.
I've been fascinated with the R.M.S. Titanic ever since I was a child. The movie is how I first learned about the ship. After watching it, I started reading books, magazine articles & anything else I could find about the infamous ship. (Did y'all know it took twenty Clydesdale horses to transport just one of Titanic's anchors?) Sooooooo many wrong decisions & actions that lead to this tragedy. Had even ONE decision been different, the ship & the roughly 1,500 people who died that night could've survived. They could've avoided the iceberg. They could've even made it to New York safely.
Titanic has a special attraction amongst all the marine disasters, iam trying to figure out that particular reason for it's attraction despite it sank.
I find it incredibly interesting about all the comments these people made about how “unsinkable” this ship really was and how they’d definitely be able to save everyone onboard incase it did happen, and then weren’t prepared when it happened after it’s seemingly all that was talked about before her maiden voyage was how unsinkable she was.
Very sad. I had once had a sudden death experience when a bus I was traveling in nearly caught 🔥.. At that last moment life flashes before your eyes.. I remembered so much from childhood until that moment in just 2 seconds..😥
You have to have mad respect for a man who puts his wife on a lifeboat, and stays behind, knowing it means he's going to die. And even more respect for his wife, who gets out of the lifeboat, basically quoting the book of Ruth. "Whither thou goest, I shall go."
I cannot imagine being in the shoes of the “rescuers” over the next few days. Sailing into that watery grave among a forest of drowned corpses that made it to the surface. I can imagine that the stillness and clarity of the water made it a chilling sight to behold. Even though they weren’t directly involved in the tragedy, I’m sure that handling a job like that could take a severe toll on one’s mental state and very likely ruin the remainder of their life
Based on my understanding, the steel plates buckled when they hit the Iceberg. As an engineer, steel buckles when it transfers loads beyond its capacity. That's a material issue rather than a design flow. What happened to the Titanic, in my opinion, the ship was rushed in construction, ignoring essential factors such as the safety of passengers, quality of materials used, etc. It is an example of when the non-experts intervene with engineers' decisions for their profit. There is no theory or conspiracy, it was just a rushed project that the owner had scratched many of the safety factors in order to generate profit. Welcome to the money world!
@I Have a Silly Haircut that makes a total sense to me also. Yeah lower carbon level would definitely impact the steel. But I thought the rivets popped up on impact as well.
One thing that’s commonly wrong is the importance of the binoculars, to be perfectly blunt, they weren’t that important cause they weren’t often used to scan for icebergs. Binoculars magnify distant objects at the cost of narrowing a persons field of vision significantly, it’s for that reason that it was better for lookouts to scan with their eyes and only use the binoculars to identify what they were looking at. Of course seeing the berg through binoculars would be rather meaningless since the ship sideswiped the berg.
The point that the sea was calm was an important detail in what made the binoculars more necessary. Without being able to see the waves break against the iceberg made them much harder to see at night. Two points here, if the captain had reduced the ships speed before retiring for the night and/or If the lookout had used the binoculars they probably would have seen and identified the iceberg minutes sooner than they did, thus allowing the ship to turn with enough time to avoid the iceberg completely.
The Titan submersible going down to see the wreckage of Titanic imploded instantly killing all 5 on board near the Titanic wreckage. First ppl to die around the Titanic site in over 110 years......
Sailor here, binoculars are useless at night unless you are trying to see something specific more precisely. You're better off without them for general lookout.
10:55 It wasn't a hole. You see, the iceberg popped open rivets, which allowed the hull plates to retract and expand away from eachother, causing spillage. It was more of a break 29:32 Fang Lang survived by laying atop a huge table, and was picked up by Boat 14, despite Lowe almost turning away due to his race; Chinese.
“Aye Lee, do you see anything?” “Too dark to see much of anything Fleet” “True that Lee” Literally 2 minutes later *Fleet and Lee see the iceberg* “Shoot shoot shoot!” *Lee rings the bell while Fleet calls* “IS ANYONE THERE?” “Yes, what do you see?” “Iceberg! Right Ahead!” *Murdoch runs to his men* “ICEBERG RIGHT AHEAD! HARD A STARBOARD” What I like to imagine happened in the crows nest and bridge that night
I used to live in the town, and near to the home where the bandmaster Wallace Hartley lived before he went aboard the Titanic, a blue plaque resides upon the house in memorial of his passing aboard the ship, and there are several small monuments and memorials dtted about the town of Colne in Lancashire for both him and the ship...
@@michelletempleton2505 Yep, there's even a memorial for him in Colne cemetary on Keighley Road, also, and I may be mis-remembering, but I think someone found one of his old violins somewhere in the town in an attic too...
A friend of mine had a great uncle who was on the titanic. He told me his great uncle saw the ship split apart from one of the lifeboats and could hear the screaming of people in the water.
Actually, the engines where never reversed, triple expansion steam engine, reversal, commonly known as a "Double ring astern" would have taken vastly more time than they had, by the time the Titanic struck the iceberg the engines wouldnt have wound down enough for them to engage the reversing engine, let alone get the props to stop windmilling from the current velocity and spinning in the right direction. From the investigation, it was found that the command rung down to the engine room was "All Stop", a mistake in itself as well.
The giant hole torn in the side that is debated is suspected to be from a coal bunker fire which may have weakened the iron in that particular area. Investigations to the iron and quality of construction in the day have shown though that the quality was of the finest and rivals some of the construction of todays vessels. Being a rivited vessel, rivet heads were shorn off, however this may have what allowed the vessel to survive longer vs a welded hulled vessel.
@@leon419 The only fire was a small one in a coal bunker, which had been extinguished at least a day before the collision. Do you seriously believe that Smith would have set out to cross the Atlantic in a ship with a compromised hull?
@@leon419 For how factual your first comment was I'm surprised you believe the coal fire theory. People act like it was a raging fire even though it was just smoldering coals.
@@grain_not Never said I believed, just that it was a highly debated theory. As to why there was even a coal bunker fire, Titanic at the time had to use sub par coal due to.a coal strike at the time.
@@leon419 after reading and looking through i don’t really think the fire was really far enough to the stern that actually caused the water compartments to get water in them.
Charles Joughin also saved many lives besides getting super drunk. He stepped out of Lifeboat Nr.10 (he was assigned to it as crew) and gave his spot to a lady. He also spent about an hour throwing deck chairs and anything that would float into the ocean. After that he went back below with a stop at the kitchen and drank some more. Then as she went down and rolled over (not like in the movie) he stepped onto her hull and walked past the propellers into the water with his hair dry. He then proceeded to balance on a table on his fours, in the water up to his knees and elbows. Miraculaously he did not suffer hypothermia and survived finally being picked up out of the water. He spent by far the longest time outside of a boat of anyone and survived. I speculate alcohol kept his arms and legs warm enough that he did not suffer paralysis like many after a few minutes and so he was able to remain swimming and find a piece of furniture to balance on. Historic Travels has a great video on him.
Fun fact: There's a Baptist preacher shown in the 1997 or so movie who gave multi-denominational mass and prayers on the deck as the ship was sinking. He was a real person. He was also the brother of my great, great grandfather. His name was William Bateman and was from Bristol. He went down with the ship.
It'd be worse. You wouldn't have been told the ship was sinking. If you were a woman or child, you'd be asked to board a tiny wooden boat in the middle of the sea in the middle of the freezing cold night. If you were lucky, you'd be told it was a precaution and that the ship might be damaged. The ship seems stable, so there's not any panic at all, and in fact, many people choose to stay aboard the liner as she seems safer. If you got into the boat, you'd drift out onto the open sea and you'd end up helplessly watching the bow creep more and more below the waterline until all of the ship's lights suddenly went out.
Or enjoying the Carpathia for a days then waking up in the middle of the night due to your room getting cold and discovering that you’re on rescue mission shortly after.
As Eva Heart said in her interviews. Carpathia threw down rope later. Now what were the children sapose to do?( She herself was a 7 year old girl at the time) they put all the children in luggage bags and hulled them on bord. Eva Heart has given many interviews. She was as mentioned 7 years old back then. One of the last survivors to die who were old enough to realy remember and comprehend what was going on.
Imagine being super rich and in first class on the titanic and you could of lived if you brought an inflatable pool toy for 25cents, before the ship left.
Speeding while in a part of the ocean with an iceberg warning was more common in that time period than one would believe. The thinking of ocean liner high brass was to get through the ice field as quickly as possible.
Millvina Dean wasn't nine years old when the Titanic sank. She was only two months old, making her the youngest passenger of the ill-fated luxury liner
Titanic carried more lifeboats required by Law. Also the missing binoculars. Binoculars especially at Night narrow your field of view. Yes its possible fleet could have seen the Iceberg sooner but at the same time the Titanic entered an area that can create a cold weather mirage and a False horizon. Making it even harder to see. Also the flat calm was because Titanic was on the southern tip of a large Ice Field. Given law at the time and i believe Lowe also said it. If its clear and calm carry on to keep schedule. Also its generally believed now that Titanic didn't reverse her Engines she went to all stop which was the Collision avoidance maneuver and Murdoch was a senior officer. This is backed up as survivors from the Boiler rooms got an all Stop order and only 4th officer Boxhall said he saw Reverse on the telegraph.
Man i remember myself at a young age just going on and on talking about it researching about it and making school projects on it just to later on get an A for creativity
It is also thought that if the Titanic would have just hit the iceberg straight on that she would have survived the Collision and not as many watertight compartments would have flooded
It's actually a mixture of cold AND warm fronts that create the mentioned mirage. However, you are correct on the extra lifeboats, these were the 4 collapsibles. Though, I'm not sure if the cutters were extras as well Since all ships at the time carried a maximum of 16 and the Titanic carried 14 2ton Clinker Built boats. The 2 cutters would make it 16 And they each weighed 1½ tons. The 4 extra collapsibles weighed less than a ton each.
Mr. Narrator! This was MY part where Charles Joughin reminds me of Spike "McBoyington" the Dragon, which he was also known as the last and only remembered survivor, in Okran'ha Agron, in the start of the Story Mode in Spikeyvincibles Multicrossover Generations Classics! An online, free-to-play, competitive, massively multiplayer online action role-playing game hack and slash/beat 'em up/sandbox hybrid game! Exclusively on PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo Switch, PC and Mobile! Last survivors! 😮 Both Spike and Joughin really ARE go-to last survivors, Joughin on the Titanic, you were talking about, and Spike, who was the primary protagonist with many major roles! 😃😃😃 Joughin: Last survivor on the Titanic, and its chief baker. Spike: Last (and only remembered) survivor and primary protagonist and main character.
Murdoch never ordered the engines reversed, he ordered them stopped. Also just turning the rudder full over takes about 20-30 seconds. Titanic had about 2/3 her length to avoid the iceberg, a distance she would cover in about 15 seconds. We do know the rudder was completely over in the port turn, so assuming the rudder movement took around 20 seconds, there was no way she could have avoided the iceberg at that distance.
Unfortunately, the wireless operators put passenger messages a priority which is why they set the iceberg warnings aside. They did this because they were paid to send passenger messages and they had a backlog since the machine and broken down. If they had put the iceberg warnings together, they would have known that they were sailing into an ice field
Passenger messages were paid for and were a major reason for wireless aboard ships, especially luxury liners like Titanic. The technology was still in its infancy, so people didn't really know its true capabilities. That said, the crew on the bridge was very well aware of the ice field. They knew where it was sighted, and they knew they were heading towards it. They weren't going in completely blind.
@@SaraRoseVaughan Smith did change course to a southwest route over directly west after the initial ice warnings. The problem was the ice travelled further south than anyone could have anticipated.
@@josephgregorowicz5135 As far as I'm aware, there's nothing actually suggesting he did that. It's more likely he kept the ship on course, which makes sense. Keeping her on the standard, heavily trafficked shipping course would be better in case of emergency.
Thomas Andrews... I've learned recently that Thomas Andrews was not hanging out in the lounges admiring his work, as popularly believed in the movies and shows. It's now widely believed that he was seen with the Captain. He knew every inch of that ship and was a caring soul. He helped people until there was nothing else he could do. He was thought to have jumped out either with, or before the captain. Something along those lines, as you've stated.
At roughly 2:05 AM standing by the bridge with Smith he said to Smith, she is going now, we have to go. They both stepped over the bridge wing into the water and watched her final plunge. Besides an unconfirmed sighting of the Captain they were never seen again. One man swam up to a boat and was told it was full. He said okay, god bless you and swam away. This may have been Smith though it is not confirmed and simply described as an old man.
"We can do no more Andrews, she's going..." On a side note, he was seen in the first class smoking lounge, but this was at 1:40 am. Most likely, around that time, he went back down to the boiler Rooms or went back outside to help people evacuate.
Millvina Dean was only 2½ months old when Titanic sank. It doesn't take but a second to do the math and see that if she died in 2009 at 97 then she was born in 1912. Her Wikipedia page has her date of birth as February 1912. She was the youngest survivor of the Titanic. She survived with her mother but her father's body was never found.
I reckon a lot of lives would’ve been saved if it wasnt for the shortage of life boats. The fact that ship stayed a float for over 2 hours shows how well built that ship was, especially when considering the damage it undertook!
Not true, only 18 of the 20 lifeboats they had were launched. In fact one of the last boats got out mere minutes before a tidal wave hit that part of the ship and the crew had to frantically cut the ropes with knives because they didn't have time to properly release it before the boat floated away in the tidal wave. This video seems to have many inconsistencies and biases tbh
From what I've understood, the lookouts spotted the iceberg about a minute or two before she stuck at 11:40 PM. Also the lifeboats could hold at least 65 people. Also Millvina Dean was all of 2 months old, not 9 years. There is also debate as to what Capt. Smith said, some say he said "It's every man for himself" others say he said "be British". She didn't raise that high out of the water either. She old had about 20-30 degree angle.
I always loved James Camerons interpretation of Thomas Andrews just standing there infront of the 1st class smoking rooms clock and as the ship goes down he either adjusts the time or stops the clock all together that lart is always debated i however love to belive he stopped the clock as i think that symbolizes the end of time this was at the point where there was no way off Titanic anymore you were almost guaranteed to lose your life at this point so i think him stopping the time is a great way to show that his time as well as the ship he built is done i think its a depressing scene in that film as well as his final words to rose those scenes always stuck with me mainly because of the fact that this was Andrews actual final moments
It was not the Captain who told the Californian to "shut up" it was one of the wireless operators besides that though the ice did not tear holes directly into the ships hull the ice caused the hull to start to bend outward near areas of metal plating riveted together this outward bending of the metal caused the rivets to start popping out of place and once there were no more rivets holding the metal plating together in the areas where the hull rubbed hard against the berg water could flow in through all of the now un-rivited unfastened plates of metal.
There's an awful lot of wrong information in this video. First, the crew of the Titanic weren't an amateur crew. They were practically veterans of the sea. Second, Ismay didn't decide Titanic should have fewer lifeboats than was necessary. That was up to the White Star board. Who did commission Titanic to have four more lifeboats than was legally required for the outdated lifeboat regulations. Third, Ismay didn't quickly sneak into a lifeboat. He helped with the evacuation and only abandoned ship close to the end when there was no one else getting into the boat. Four, the lookouts saw the iceberg at 11:40pm. Five, Murdoch didn't reverse the engines. He knew how Titanic functioned and knew it'll move quicker if at full speed. Six, at 11:50pm the bow had risen... Wait, what? Seven, CQD is just a convenient series of letters. The D does not stand for distress. That's what's called a Backronym. Eight, Smith doesn't tell passengers to go to the wrong deck to get into lifeboats. It's easy to remember which deck they're on. It's called the boat deck. The plan was for the boats to lower down to the A deck promenade and allow people to climb onboard. But someone reminded Captain Smith that unlike Olympic (Titanic's near identical sister ship) the first half of Titanic's A deck promenade was shielded and enclosed. Where as Olympics was completely open. Which was why the order was changed. Nine, there are no grills on Titanic preventing 3rd class passengers from going up to the boat deck and no doors were locked. That was made up for all the movies. They didn't go up because they were waiting to be told to go up. Ten, there were no lifeboats on the second or third class promenade decks. Eleven, Ismay didn't leave the ship until around 2:00am Twelve, Emergency cutter number 2? There was no such lifeboat, and Lightoller forcing several men out of the boat at gun point is a new one on me. But seeing as there was no boats called emergency cutter either 1 or 2 I doubt this is true, and feels like an attempt at deliberate character assassination. Thirteen, According to Lightollers testimony he never jumped off anything. Titanic sank from under him. Fourteen, no one knows who was crushed under collapsing funnel 1. Fifteen, someone was held accountable. The inquiry blamed the Captain. But he died. Presumably you mean no one alive was held accountable who could be blamed. Which was what the media wanted.
Infographics gives a lot of content in a very digestible and enjoyable style but this is a reoccurring thing with their videos succumbing to misinformation and wide spread myths. Its nature given how wide spread the topics they cover but because of it if I truly want to learn about an event there’s other more reliable and consistent creators
4:34 It was John Jacob Astor IV who was on board the Titanic, a descendant of the John Jacob Astor shown in the video (still a man of considerable wealth as he inherited it from his great grandfather - the man in that painting). The John Jacob Astor referred to in this video and who's painting is shown, died in 1848, 64 years prior to the Titanic's voyage.
I have to say, I was disappointed to see Andrews credited as the ships designer here. I believe he merely took over management of the project that was largely completed from the gentleman truly responsible, Alexander Carlisle.
My Grandfather knew that the Titanic was going to sink. He kept telling everyone but they just ignored him. In the end they threw him out of the cinema.
Hahaha got em
That was funny lol
I knew the what you were going to say from bright side
I knew the what you were going to say from bright side
Haha 😂
There were so many hero’s on that night and so many that showed courage and bravery. More than I can mention in this one comment, but I’d love to mention the electrical engineers who worked until they literally couldn’t to keep the lights on as long as they could for everyone. These men worked in one of the lower levels of the stern and never left at any point, they stayed, accepted death so others could have a chance. Such selflessness, true hero’s.
How u know
@@Da_Humble_Life read
@@Da_Humble_Lifeit's well documented and the electric engines were in the way back on the bottom of the ship
Well said. That is a wonderful thing to say. They are the heros
Read that in Morgan freeman’s voice
The saddest part was it was pitch black once the Titanic's lights went out just before she sank, and unlike in the movie the crew on the lifeboats didn't have any flashlights... so all they could do was hear was a very loud explosion around 30 seconds after the stern sank (air pockets exploded) and the cries and screams of people at sea which slowly died down as their lives ended. It haunted many of them forever.
(Imploded)
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@@MrPoopYTPit didn’t occur to me flashlights 🔦 were much recent inventions that it was historically inaccurate
Wrong they had lanterns
It’s not sad
I went to a Titanic exhibition in London. At the end, there were lists of all the passengers who died. I noticed that while the lists for the first and second class passengers were fairly short, the lists for the third class passengers and crew were much longer.
That is how society works ... sad but true
Yes, it is sobering when seeing the difference in survival between all three classes and crew.
Rich and poor
The few and the many what a surprise(!)
Who belongs to who I wonder(?) 😑
Still, I have yet to go that museum, was it well worth it luv? (bro)
Have you considered that there were more second and third class passengers than first class? Locking poor people below deck was pure evil, not to mention the first few lifeboats were launched half full, but ultimately, there weren't enough lifeboats for everyone and you'd hope a first class ticket also paid for a space on a life boat. The blame lies with whoever decided to reduce the amount of lifeboats on board.
Money buys you out of trouble I guess...
Some survivor accounts equate the sound of the mass amounts of people in the water screaming to the sound of a crowd cheering at a grand sporting event (such as a professional baseball game.) Some of these accounting survivors refraining from attending such events because of the traumatic reminder.
I had heard that story too, it was part of the testimony given at the Inquisition after the sinking.
@@MsKatMays nice. thanks for the info.
Yeah Titanic survivors never go to the Super Bowl anymore!! They've been really snobby lately
@@maplebear6527 probably because most of 'em are/were Patriot's fans.
I'd say the silence that came a few minutes after would be far more terrifying.
Milvina Dean wasn't 9 years old, she was 9 WEEKS old. She was the youngest passenger, the youngest survivor, and the last survivor to die.
Yup your right I looked it up she was born Feb 2 1912 and the titanic went down in April 1912
YEP CORREEECCTT
My great grandmother was pregnant on the ship, so if you want to be technical, her unborn daughter may have been the youngest survivor
2 months old or 9 weeks. Same difference.
@@johnpartipelo8376my great granndma got her back beat out on the titanic and became pregnant only finding out a few months later, so technically the child she conceived on the ship was the youngest passenger/survivor.
I can only imagine the PTSD the survivors had to deal with the rest of their lives.
Back in those days people were a lot tougher than now,these days someone gets a ingrown toenail and gets treated for PTSD.
@@dntlss You mean they appeared tougher.. The only reason people seemed "tougher" back then was because of their lack of mental health awareness, so they essentially just repressed their issues, which anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of psychology would tell you just how incredibly unhealthy that is to do. Believe it or not, people these days are actually much stronger psychologically speaking because they allow themselves to properly channel their emotions instead of just bottling everything up until it completely warps their personality and turns them into a disgruntled, bitter, and typically narcissistic person.
I wouldn't take a bath, I would die from not drinking water. SPONGE BATH!!!!
@@dntlss @Shawn H you're both right
And rightly so. Since they were sitting in their lifeboats and listened to their relatives die in the ice-cold water. Without returning in time and rescuing at least a few dozen of them.
My great grandparents and great great grandmother had tickets for the Titanic and they traded another family for a earlier ship and that's how my family made it here to the United States. I had the luck of growing up with my great grandparents from Sweden and my grandmother Jenny Edlund told me the story when I was 14 one year before she passed away.
Oh wow
If they went on that ship you may never had been born pal.
@@chrismaccool9097 that’s kinda the point of the story lol
@@RadiantSilverlighter yes I know.
But I feel sorry for the family they traded their tickets to.
Intresant
Milvina Dean was 2 months old at the time and died in 2009, she spent her life as a cartographer, she never remembered what happened on the Titanic and it's believed she was the youngest person on board, she and her siblings and mother made it out, her father died that night, her family were 3rd class passengers also so the fact she made it out was a very lucky occurrence, may all those who died that night and of course milvina herself rest in peace ❤
And she lived long enough until 2009
She wasn’t 2 weeks old
@@Someguy4007 9 weeks =~2 months.
this story will never not fascinate me. its amazing how many bad decisions were made here SMH it was a perfect storm.
All those bad decisions are being made today under different circumstances. Save the rich and let the rest fend for themselves. This is what it has come to. It's time we fight back.
It is the pre-war version of the Challenger disaster. Except with Challenger politics played a big role.
the rich have the right to live and the poor don’t thata the logic of this worlds society
I avoided the movie because I knew it was going to be very dressed up. I never even took an interest but then I saw a YT video suggestion about the Titanic sinking and how it was much darker. Well I had to click on it because of the morbid attraction and now I'm interested in historical details that the movie would not have had.
wait till you hear about the people of S.S Arctic's choices.
I don't think I'll ever fully understand how we know so much about such a chaotic event that took place over 100 years ago in the middle of the ocean. Truly fascinating and awful that so many lives were lost in vain. RIP to all passengers who's journey ended in the deep that fateful night.
thanks to the treasonous straight withe male who jumped off into the lifeboad before all the women and children had a chance too. he lived to tell the tale
May they all rest in heavenly peace.
Well here's a guess. People survived? Gave accounts as to what happened ? Basic science physics and calculations told a story? Maybe ?
Survivors, relayed messages and common sense
@@Mroyalali welk after 700 something survivors I'm sure they can put together an accurate story...
To survive the Titanic only to suffer again with 2 great Wars of unspeakable tragedies. I can’t even imagine how much pain they would have carried and how much strength they possessed to speak many years later about the horrors of the sinking and the loss of family, the trauma that lives vividly in their memories and being witness to the deaths of many many innocent strangers they never even met knowing their bodies will never be recovered and laid to rest and yet their screams of distress and for help live on through them is unbelievable. I have a huge amount of sympathy and respect for them. I hope they are all finally at peace with those they lost 🕊
I’d take the risk
@@poopstain5216suicide not allowed
Tattoo not allowed
Third class on the Titanic was actually considered far more comfortable and even luxurious when compared to third class accommodations on other ships. Sure, it's nothing compared to second class and first class, but the Titanic did try to make the journey nicer for third class passengers than was the "standard" of the day.
I agree with you about that.
Even third class was expensive. Most couldn't afford a ticket even in third class.
@@ojjuicemanes about £700 in today's money, going back then, a 3rd class was ,£7,, and it took about 3 yrs to save that.
I just pooped my pants
My favorite story of third verses first class was that the third class toilets had automatic flush while first class did not. This was because many 3rd class passengers had never used a toilet in their lives and didn't know to flush.
My great great grandmother Jessie was a survivor from the titanic on lifeboat 9. She was a second class passenger coming back from seeing her family in Scotland. Still crazy to hear some of her story passed down in my family about her experience.
Jessie Lairid Trout? I found a lot of articles about her online.
@@gmo298 Yup, thats her!
@@AceSenko0 that means your famous 😁
Wo dt t how how to to to react. One one hand this sounds special but tragic on the other.
I call this fake, people just want attention online
Benjamin Guggenheim : “ We’re dressed in our Best and are Prepared to go down as Gentleman “
What a Man He Was ! R.I.P To all who Died ❤️
No is not too sad
I have to say, there are quite a few things in this video that are inaccurate. Such as the last survivor to die. If she was 97 in 2009, that means she wasn’t even a year old in 1912, not 9. And it wasn’t captain smith who told the Californian to shut up, it was Jack Phillips, the radio operator.
No one said 'shut up.' Phillips was using Morse shorthand, and probably actually sent 'DDD' which had a number of meanings, including 'clear the frequency.' Evidence subsequently given by Californian's operator, that he did not regard Phillips' signal signal as insulting, is confirmation of this.
I thought 'Milvina Dean' was the last survivor, having been only a few months old when Titanic sailed.
@@emo7636 That is correct. This video is wrong to say she was 9.
I agree there are many errors in this video
More lifeboats wouldn't have helped because they were launching the last lifeboats as the ship sunk
Random guy : “Not even god can sink this ship!”
God : “And I took that personally.”
The iceberg said... Ill do what god can´t.
Though that was never actually said before she sank.
@@CorgiButtOnWheels True, but ppl think that so might as well go along 🤷♂️😂
@@CorgiButtOnWheels Actually, YES it was
@@gabrielkawa3477 "The origin of the claims that the “Titanic was unsinkable” are not altogether clear
The Builders Harland and Wolfe, insist they never used the phrase, they claim the myth originated from misinterpretation of articles in the Irish News and the Shipbuilder magazine. They also claim that the myth grew after the disaster."
One thing that people should keep in mind is that nautical lifeboat regulations were just out of date at that point. Every ship basically had enough lifeboats for about half of the passengers. It wasn't like they were just being arrogant because they didn't think the ship could sink.
This tragedy was actually pretty instrumental in getting the regulations updated.
Also, it was thought that the lifeboats would mainly be used to ferry passengers back forth to a rescue ship. They never thought the ship would ever encounter a situation where it would sink that quickly.
Extra lifeboats wouldn't have changed much about the outcome. The passengers were reluctant to enter the lifeboats in the beginning, which is the reason they started lowering partially empty lifeboats. The last lifeboats were deployed only moments before the titanic went under. Even with more lifeboats, they didn't have time to launch all of them. Maybe a few could've been saved if the lifeboats were cut loose with the hope they would float back to the surface, but the total number of saved would be minimal. I also believe that a faster abandon ship + more lifeboats would still result in roughly the same deaths. The passengers thought the ship was unsinkable and weren't interested in entering the lifeboats.
They wanted first class passengers to have a good view and the life boats were in the way
They were arrogant
How can they keep it in mind if they never knew it
Never ever call any ship unsinkable. So far all unsinkable ships had sank.
I dont know where you got this but this is just simply not true😂
@@bpdbhp1632 No, it's true, because there is no such thing as unsinkable ship
Olympic.
@@TheSean390 *olympic has joined the chat*
My rubber ducky toy ship in the 80's was unsinkable. No matter how many times I tried keeping it submerged at the bottom of the tub during bath time it shot back up to the top of the water every time. That ship was unsinkable.
Gotta point out on Ismay's behalf: he acted bravely for most of the evening. According to survivor's accounts in "A Night to Remember", Ismay spent nearly the entire sinking urging passengers to enter the lifeboats, throwing chairs and various forms of furniture into the sea for people to cling to, and only stepped into a lifeboat at the very last moment- less than twenty minutes before Titanic sank entirely. I'm not saying that the man's a hero, but I will say in his defense that he is certainly not a villain. And as for Captain Smith: according to survivors and crew, he DID order the crew to abandon ship. Marconi operator Harold Bride later quoted Captain Smith: "Men, you have done your full duty. You can do no more. Abandon your cabin. Now it's every man for himself. You look out for yourselves. I release you. That's the way of it at this kind of a time. Every man for himself." He was also quoted as saying "Be British, boys," several times throughout the evening. I believe it was in his character to give this order to a small number of his crew to then spread the message, especially to avoid further panic. As for his rapid rate of speed, consider that he had nearly thirty years of maritime experience working against the iceberg warnings. This wasn't the first time he sailed that route, in fact, he sailed the same route with the Olympic in 1911. To put the blame of the many deaths on his shoulders, to me, is ridiculous.
I agree entirely
@@red-whitestarline especially when he wasn’t even manning the helm when the impact happened.
Regardless how you feel, it is his fault because he chose to keep the ship at full speed just so they could get to New York quicker than expected.
If he actually listened to the iceberg warnings and favored safety over making headlines, he would have either significantly reduced speed or stopped entirely for the night. All of this could have been avoided, so it IS his fault.
@@LeeEverett1 He did listen to the warnings. He turned the Titanic southern to avoid hitting any bergs. He also told all of the crew to watch for bergs.
That night was a strange one however as there was a mirage effect on the horizon. When he went to the bridge at 11:30 PM he looked out and he thought that he could see for miles, when in reality he was only seeing part of the image.
The Titanic could see objects 30 miles before hitting them. When Murdoch spotted the berg it was only 30 seconds away.
Captain Smith was not responsible for the weather that night nor was he responsible for the visibility. But he didn’t light all boilers that night and he directed the ship southern. He told the bridge to wake him if anything happened such as the need to reduce speed.
So in reality regardless of how you feel, and regardless as to the movie you watched, Captain Smith did everything that he felt necessary, and everything that was required by the Maritime practice at the time.
He was innocent and the video is farb.
@@red-whitestarline Nah I disagree fam. If he wouldn't have canceled the muster drill that Sunday hundreds more would have been saved.
The grilles or gates separating the classes were not everywhere and they where about waist high, so that people merely jumped over when it was sinking.
Wow I never knew that. All movies depict a floor to ceiling locked gate
@@NewarkMale973 Real life and movies rarely are the same, in fact the gates separating the classes were easier to remove than a baby gate. They were never locked at all. All it took was simply lifting the gate up from its hinge and pushing it open. There are so many "facts" in this video that are wrong that it's not even funny.
I have to say, I’ve really been enjoying the latest videos you guys have been putting out. New writer on staff? All these 20+ minute videos have been great, especially the ones that break down the minute by minute, hour by hour, or year by year/century. These scenarios, hypothetically stories, and real life accounts have been fantastic!
If you ignore that most of the info vilifying Smith in this is wrong and at 11:33 they use a lusitania model (funnel color, the top of the bow being stepped down as it goes further to the stern, the entire stern section itself) and they portray the bow as rising at this timestamp even though it never rose because you know... its sinking.
@@someperson8953 supposition is just supposition until
shown otherwise.
@@someperson8953 Why is that a reply to my comment? It sounds like you are trying to argue against someone but there’s no comment here for that argument to be against. Did you mean to make it an independent comment but just posted in the wrong spot?
@@someperson8953 I just read the rest of the comment and I couldn’t help but to laugh at the end. You do know how leverage works right? As one side is being pulled down rapidly it will lift the opposite side up, causing it to sink in a position closer to vertical than horizontal. I could tell by the first 3 lines of your comment (which is where I stopped reading last time when I replied) that you weren’t very bright, since you were arguing against empty space, but reading the rest of it… wow! That’s all I can say about that. Sounds like you are an angry person with a chip on your shoulder and feel the need to knock people down with your superior knowledge because you were probably bullied in the past for being ignorant. Problem is, your superior knowledge isn’t very superior, so the trend continues and you just try harder… and round and round it goes. You need a hug.
Because it's bleak and dramatic and involving death. They have been going down this route a lot lately. People like violence and death, hence all the videos on last minutes of things or how a world crisis plays out.
I must point out that at the moment Ismay boarded a lifeboat, the deck was abandoned, all the passengers and crew were aft. If he didn't jump on the boat, it would have been yet another seat left empty. 400 more lives could have been saved had they actually filled the boats to capacity.
ikr? I keep wavering between feeling sorry for him and being mad.
He also gets blamed for the number of lifeboats. He surely was part of that decision but putting it on him alone is a stretch.
@@DDlambchop43 i agree that he was bad because he would have chose himself over a baby or woman
@@6xub. see, that's the problem; if he had pulled a woman or child out of the boat, then I would hate him. He jumped into the boat on its way down, nobody was getting in. HOwever, he's not innocent.
Sadly it was due to the chaotic Evacuation that led to the life boats not being filled much and some passengers thinked that it would be freezing to get on the boat on the middle of the atlantic early on the sinking and it led the early boats to leave the ship not being filled ether.
Heres the story of the first class child who died
Her name was Helen Loraine Allison (she was 2 years old)
She and her mom were put on to a life boat, but her dad and brother weren’t allowed on it because they were men. After a little while, her mom decided that she wouldn’t leave without her family, and got off the boat with Helen. But on the other side of the boat, her husband and son had already gotten onto a life boat (I think it was LifeBoat 10). Sadly, Helen and her mom passed in the sinking of the Titanic.
Oh really? This is purely destiny,what is meant to be ,will be.Thnx for this info,actually titanic stories are so fascinating, though there are so many marine disasters which claimed much more lives but titanic stands out.
“Cowardly men” no no no… no matter who you are survival is an instinct and how people respond to a situation like this is unique to each person. This was a real life disaster not a movie.. let’s say it again 👏Survival 👏is 👏an 👏Instinct
Thank you! I was looking for this comment if not to post my own on this!
That remark really rubbed me the wrong way for some reason…
Well, you are right in a way, but codes like "Women and children first" are supposed to be based on chivalry, which by definition stands as the group of moral values that separate us from animals. Namely, you are supposed to be better than to act on pure self preservation, especially when more vulnerable people are in danger next to you
@@LuMartinelli But women are equal, no?
@@jamesarmstrong857 of course they are, but you got try to explain that to the british high society in 1912
@@LuMartinelli it’s actually cause women and children are weaker so they’re less likely to cause deadly stampedes
The Titanic actually did better than her designer predicted. When he saw the water and how fast it was coming in, he predicted that she only had 30 min before slipping beneath the waves. She remained afloat over 2 hours.
I think it was 4 hours actually(11:40 to 2:20)
@@dino4688 point still stands. If anything it stands taller with that correction
Many things allowed her to stay afloat that long like the calm seas and the fact that the front has lots of buoyancy. Combined with the shear luck that the port side was full of coal that balanced the Titanic water that was coming in from the starboard side
@@dino4688 Someone doesnt know math
@@denniswobbe3157 it's an estimate time
“Cowardly men jumped on the life boats” I don’t blame them. Imagine dying cuz someone wanted their job to be easier
Right! What’s cowardly about jumping off a SINKING boat!
Many of us will never be in such a terryfying situation, therefore won’t understand the horror of realizing there is nothing you can do but to die. People do crazy things under stress and panic.
I agree. There is nothing cowardly about wanting to live a few more years in this world. We are all running out of time. There's nothing worse than facing an abrupt end to your existence. Everything you learned, everything you have experienced, all of the memories you hold in your heart, all of it being erased is pretty terrifying.
The thing is, we have the people who willingly went down with the ship trying to save people to place them on the scale next to.
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It was not a large tear; it was a series of small tears or gaps where rivets popped and actually measured about 12 sq. feet. Unfortunately, six compartments have been compromised: the forepeak, Cargo Holds 1-3, and boiler Rooms 6 and 5.
5 wasn't it?
I'm sure It was 🤔
But enough to cause it to sink
@@EAcapuccino Well according to James Cameron it was 5. According to history channel maybe it was 8 who knows?
It was six watertight compartments five of them were reached heavily and the sixth compartment only in the cold bunker was breached
This has been proven
Got it, a tear big enough to sink the ship isn’t large, it’s small. Okay. So a large tear cuts the ship in two, a small tear sinks it. I guess a tiny tear would be one you can just get back to port half sunk but pumping out as fast as it’s coming in. I’m calibrated now.
The iceberg didn't cause a tear in the side but rather the sheer force (which was probably in the region of 3,000 tonnes per square inch) of the iceberg and Titanic colliding put so much strain on the steel plates of the forward hull that the wrought iron rivets in that section of the ship broke and compromised the integrity of the steel plates where they overlap. This allowed water to flow into her forward watertight compartments and boiler room 6 which condemned her.
Some say they used cheap iron rivets instead of better steel rivets.
Im not sure though. It’s what I’ve heard in a documentary.
The collision with the iceberg effectively used Titanic’s own momentum against her. Similar story with the Costa Concordia when she ran aground against an underwater rock formation.
@@Little-She-Devil that’s just simply not true
@@Constance_tinople well that’s your opinion. My opinion is when a ship is in danger of sinking everyone should be allowed to a rescue boat. Not the rich first. Every life matters.
@@Little-She-Devil tf does that have to do with you claiming they used poor rivets
I went to a museum in Gatlinburg about this and it had so much things to really put in perspective of what it was like being on this boat from platforms angled to show how hard it was to hold on at 3 different times of the sinking to a pool with water set to be as cold as the ocean was that night
Titanic: “look at me with my unsinkable self.”
Iceberg: “HOLD MY BEER!”
🤣
Britannic: Hello I am Britannic the more safe version of Titanic I can survive the same situation that Titanic encountered. 1916: Oh no my crewmen forgot to close my porthole windows and my captain made a mistake, welp I am dead.
jajajaja! even tho ist not real saying, still funny!
ship go "haha i am mighty stronk ship, big expensive floating castle nothing can stop me!"
*iceberg has joined the server*
Hold my modelo(Mexican brand of beer).
Nothing cowardly with trying to escape a sinking ship
Facts
Absolutely 💪🏿they talking about women an children first?? No mf!!! ALL LIVES MATTER 🛳️🛶
Only person who shouldn't have left was the designer half the reason so many pasted is because of him
@@dakotabynum5137 Titanic was actually really well designed for its time. Any other ship of the day would’ve sank in that exact scenario, and probably faster too.
@@dakotabynum5137 Titanic was absolutely state of the art and Thomas Andrews to this day is regarded as an absolutely masterful naval architect and a decent man, he spent his last hours helping people evacuate the ship. To suggest that he deserved to die is sick
The tale of the titanic always gives me chills. The images of the sunken titanic also make my skin crawl.
So many dead, so little alive to tell the tale. Such an awful way to go too, I wouldn't wish the fate of any passenger on the titanic to even my greatest enemies.
Suicide not allowed
This isn’t remotely fair. The ship DID NOT have metal gates separating the classes; all of them were waist high. There were metal gates on the ship, but those separated passenger areas from the crew areas, not the classes.
Also, the crew, despite inexperienced, did a stellar job and were gallant in the face of death to the last. They were the group that suffered most; far worse than third class. Nearly all of them died. There was no mutiny or disorder on their part, and this is extremely rare.
yes !!! danke! well said :D
They did have gates though. Apparently it was required by 1912 immigration law.
@@Whitneypyant The gates were portable, so could easily be removed. In case of overbooking, the titanic could give third class passengers some cabins of second class and second class could be given a room of first class, portable gates allowed them to keep the classes separated. Even if these gates were in place and locked, each class had a two separate staircases which brought them to the deck. These staircases didn't have any gates. The stories about third class passengers being trapped by gates is a Hollywood myth. Testimonies of third class survivors only stated 1 gate on the deck of the ship where men were hold back. Women and children were let through, but many didn't think the ship would sink so they remained with their men.
@@burnt.flowers “pretty sure” were you there ???
Yeah I agree. Also for someone who claims about snooty British aristocracy, came across as very snooty about the Brits in this.
Next up: SINKING OF THE LUSITANIA MINUTE BY MINUTE - perfect video length since it only took 18 MINUTES.
Dog not allowed ect
I remember reading that the evacuation was going so slow that if the ship had had enough boats for everyone, they likely wouldn't have made much difference.
That's correct. They barely had the to launch the boats they had. Indeed the last two collapsibles werent even lowered. They were washed off the Boat deck as the ship sank below them.
Perhaps if they had started the evacuation immediately after the colllision... But at that time they werent fully aware of the danger and were still assessing the damage...
That water was unbelievable cold, They were off the coast of Canada I believe
Yep it's extremely hard to even swim at those temperature.
8:20 Confusing captain smith with the wireless operator?
I am infuriated to learn that the person who made the decision to not put enough lifeboats on board ended up taking a spot on one of the lifeboats. He's the reason so many people had to die. At the very least, he could given his spot to someone.
In 1912 the rule that you needed lifeboats for everyone wasn't a practice. They were meant to Tender.
James Cameron did a trial and it was unlikely had there been enough, more would have been saved but they likely wouldn't have gotten them all off in time.
This was the lesson from this. Lifeboats for everyone, when the Britannic sank in WWI no one died or it was minimal.
He was shamed and went into hiding until his death.
May be wrong, but I red somewhere that the man who was stearing the ship at the time it hit the iceberg was the one who went on the lifeboat. Someone on the lifeboat suggested that they go back to save some of the people in the water after the ship has submerged and he refused?
Not entirely true, James Cameron did a test and found that even if there were enough life boats it wouldn’t have helped save more lives because of how fast the ship sank. They wouldn’t have been able to deploy them all in time.
@@ummmmmm17 the officer steering the ship is the one seen in the movie arguing with Margaret Brown about (not) going back
Anytime I listen to anything about this event it's mind-blowing.. as well mind-blowing that people with smaller wooden boats hundreds of years before had such success.
What will NEVER cease to amaze me about this travesty was how many different sources of virtually ignored WARNINGS that passed along regarding frigid temperatures and icy waters they were continuously sailing InTo.
Sadly it was the standard practice in 1912 to maintain speed until danger was spotted.
Second engineer John Henry Hesketh is my mum’s mum’s great uncle. He was a hero. he kept the engine running as long as he could.
You call them "cowardly men" that jump into the boat, but I guarantee you that you would've done the same thing given the chance, you would've saved your own life too given the chance.
I know I would have.
Depends ...if there were empty seats anyway, then probably ..
Correction at 21:19, Millvina Dean was born on February 2, 1912. She was 2 months old, not 9 years old. She was the youngest passenger aboard the Titanic.
How can a 2month old have recollection of the events
@@fox.4575 She didn't.
Correction also it wasn't Smith who said shut up old man , but it's poets licence for the guy doing the video emphasising Smith was not as sharp as he could of been
@@keithcitizen4855 Yeah, the one who said shut up, I'm working Cape Race was Jack Phillips, the older of the 2 wireless operators. He would die, but the younger Harold Bride would live, and even operated the wireless on the Carpathia after the rescue. (Jan Griffiths).
@@somestuff7228 She's done several interviews claiming that she remembers looking at her parents and seeing their worry, people panicking, etc. None of it is true though because no way she could remember, I think she just liked the attention and recognition of being a Titanic survivor honestly and she milked it.
It has been said that smith had been captain of many ships. Including the Olympic that hit something head on and had a hole in it twice and it still made it to its destination with no worry. That could be why he had such high hopes for the titanic. When it struck the iceberg he probably had that last ship he sailed in mind. So he didn’t think they needed to rehearse evacuation. He had been through that before.
If that has been said, it was said by someone ignorant of the facts. Olympic had been in one collision, when her starboard quarter was pierced by the bow of HMS Hawke. Olympic returned to Southampton for temporary repairs, before being sent to Belfast for complete ones.
At the time, Smith was indeed captain of Olympic, but he was not 'in charge.' Olympic was in the Solent, and under the command of a Solent Pilot, as the subsequent court case made clear.
Sadly this was negligent on his part. His confidante got thousands killed. At least he tried to save as much as he could, but it was too late.
The alcohol in his blood likely kept it from freezing, also, being intoxicated, he probably kept moving, numb to the cold meaning he likely didn't quit moving keeping his blood flow up.
I wonder why the other people didn’t do the same
@@Heidibell20, this is by no means a recommended method, he probably drank a lethal amount of alcohol
Most likely it just made him numb to the cold. Because whiskey doesn't warm you up. However keeping yourself moving helps too.
“Women and children first.” This was partly a reaction to at least 2 prior wrecks (the Artic and Atlantic or Pacific, forget which) where despite being passenger ships full of women and kids…..not a single woman or child survived, while many men did. In the first, the crew and a few gangs of men took the lifeboats and rowed off immediately, often not full, while in the second, off the coast of Canada, the ship was close enough to shore some men could swim to rocks through the cold water (if lucky and fast), but too rough for life boats, leaving women in big dresses and kids doomed. The fact that not one of the 300 -plus women or kids in each survived was considered pretty shameful, and changes were made. Just mentioning as it is not like women and kids always had it great.
Actually „Women and children first“ is called the Birkenhead drill (sinking of the HMS Birkenhead in 1852). The first account of the command was in 1840.
It is an ideal of „British chivalry“.
Only 323 Men survived this sinking, I guess within your eyes they're selfish because they lived. Like "how dare they!"
If wee Jimmy Krankie had been onboard, he would have been the safest one there. Because when they called out “Women and children first!” he qualifies on both counts!
As they should have. Survival of the fittest.
Its actually called the Birkenhead drill. Its was never law, just more of a British tradition.
much respect for the man that was smoking and threw chairs overboard, he sounds like he was a good man
"We dont need that many lifeboats, this ship is unsinkable" is quite the quote
There are a lot of things that infographics missed here. Three things I've learned from history channels on here such as timeline, have said that captain Smith called for the lifeboats to come back and many didn't with only four going back for survivors, that Ismay was actually doing a lot to help with the evacuation before he got off, and that there was at least one lifeboat, lifeboat 6 I think, that was sent to the other side to the gangway door to pickup passengers but either the door was not open or there wasn't anyone at the door. Its a good piece in that it does get many things right, but it could have had some extra details to paint the full picture of what happened that fateful night
Not to mention Jack and Rose
The thing I heard about the lifeboat sent to the gangway door is that by the time they got there, the door was underwater so they couldn't find it.
@@fnaffoxy1987 that was where there are conflicting reports. The crew and passengers on that lifeboat couldn't agree. Some said it was too high up and taking anyone aboard the lifeboat would swamp it causing it to overturn and become useless, some said it wasn't that high but still sealed and a few of them said it was underwater when they got there. Truth is, we will never know what the true story is, but its still worth mentioning as there was a lot more that happened that fateful night and getting the full story out there is the only way to honor all of the victims and survivors. For example, some people still believe that there wasn't a fire in one of the coal bunkers but it was admitted by surviving crew that there actually was. When you ask people why they don't believe it, they point at the movie not talking about it.
It also got a few things wrong too lol
@@theeldersimp9847 the movie was NOT ACCURATE.
The sheer magnitude of so many emotions conflicting with one another is INSANE. Bless those who perished
I just opened TH-cam and was sad that there weren't any Infographic episodes available. A second later, here we are.
@@shaynewheeler9249 ok bro
My brother likes kurzgezat better than infographics show, what do I do
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz579 there different
@@shaynewheeler9249 what's Ukraine?
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz579 Agree with him as Kurzgezat doesn't have incorrect info.
The John Jacob Astor you showed was *NOT* the John Jacob Astor aboard the Titanic; it was his great grandson, John Jacob Astor IV. The minimal research would show you the Astor you're referring to died in 1848, over 60 years before the Titanic's sinking.
Their "research" here is just so awfully done. Accompanied by the low quality images, its just so poor.
@@historyarmyproductions id love to see yall producing images and reports like if ure so critical of them, im sure you wouldn’t make any errors! 🙄
@@businesszeus6864 You can find this information very easily, give it some shots.
They did get many things wrong like the ship they seen was the California
@@gemnifan6045 They got many many things wrong, yes.
I feel very terrible for all that died the night the ship sank. 😞
A couple things were horribly inaccurate in the video. They claimed that it was the captain that told the Californian to shut up, when in reality it was the overworked wireless operators; the captain had nothing to do with it. Then they said it took a couple minutes for them to hit the ice once it was spotted, when in reality it was less than a minute. Then, they claimed that the water filled bow randomly started rising out of the water. No, just no. I usually highly respect this channel but they got so much wrong here.
Thank you
11:30
Ah yes, the ship that sank on April 15th 1912 due to an iceberg. The RMS Lusitania
It was not the Captain that told told the Californian to shut up when reality it was the Wireless operators of Titanic.
About that wireless operator. He fixed the radio although Marconi company policy explicitly advised not to but to let a Marconi technician repair it... in the next harbour. So it's thanks to him that other ships were informed about the disaster at all.
@wingweaver84 not everything has to be 100% accurate to be informative
I've been fascinated with the R.M.S. Titanic ever since I was a child. The movie is how I first learned about the ship. After watching it, I started reading books, magazine articles & anything else I could find about the infamous ship. (Did y'all know it took twenty Clydesdale horses to transport just one of Titanic's anchors?) Sooooooo many wrong decisions & actions that lead to this tragedy. Had even ONE decision been different, the ship & the roughly 1,500 people who died that night could've survived. They could've avoided the iceberg. They could've even made it to New York safely.
Titanic has a special attraction amongst all the marine disasters, iam trying to figure out that particular reason for it's attraction despite it sank.
I'm really enjoying your guys content for almost a year now keep em coming.
yes! finally someone else mentions Lightoller and how he helped later on during Dunkirk.
James Lightoller has several memorials along the river Thames near Putney., Hammersmith and Chelsea in London.
I find it incredibly interesting about all the comments these people made about how “unsinkable” this ship really was and how they’d definitely be able to save everyone onboard incase it did happen, and then weren’t prepared when it happened after it’s seemingly all that was talked about before her maiden voyage was how unsinkable she was.
Very sad. I had once had a sudden death experience when a bus I was traveling in nearly caught 🔥.. At that last moment life flashes before your eyes.. I remembered so much from childhood until that moment in just 2 seconds..😥
You have to have mad respect for a man who puts his wife on a lifeboat, and stays behind, knowing it means he's going to die.
And even more respect for his wife, who gets out of the lifeboat, basically quoting the book of Ruth. "Whither thou goest, I shall go."
The ultimate simp
@@OutrageIsNowIt's not being a simp when you're married.
@@dislike_button33 i don’t even know wtf my comment was about lol
I cannot imagine being in the shoes of the “rescuers” over the next few days. Sailing into that watery grave among a forest of drowned corpses that made it to the surface. I can imagine that the stillness and clarity of the water made it a chilling sight to behold. Even though they weren’t directly involved in the tragedy, I’m sure that handling a job like that could take a severe toll on one’s mental state and very likely ruin the remainder of their life
Based on my understanding, the steel plates buckled when they hit the Iceberg. As an engineer, steel buckles when it transfers loads beyond its capacity. That's a material issue rather than a design flow. What happened to the Titanic, in my opinion, the ship was rushed in construction, ignoring essential factors such as the safety of passengers, quality of materials used, etc. It is an example of when the non-experts intervene with engineers' decisions for their profit. There is no theory or conspiracy, it was just a rushed project that the owner had scratched many of the safety factors in order to generate profit. Welcome to the money world!
@I Have a Silly Haircut that makes a total sense to me also. Yeah lower carbon level would definitely impact the steel. But I thought the rivets popped up on impact as well.
One thing that’s commonly wrong is the importance of the binoculars, to be perfectly blunt, they weren’t that important cause they weren’t often used to scan for icebergs. Binoculars magnify distant objects at the cost of narrowing a persons field of vision significantly, it’s for that reason that it was better for lookouts to scan with their eyes and only use the binoculars to identify what they were looking at. Of course seeing the berg through binoculars would be rather meaningless since the ship sideswiped the berg.
The point that the sea was calm was an important detail in what made the binoculars more necessary. Without being able to see the waves break against the iceberg made them much harder to see at night. Two points here, if the captain had reduced the ships speed before retiring for the night and/or If the lookout had used the binoculars they probably would have seen and identified the iceberg minutes sooner than they did, thus allowing the ship to turn with enough time to avoid the iceberg completely.
They did have access to binoculars because the person who had the key for the binocular boxes got sent off the ship
The Titan submersible going down to see the wreckage of Titanic imploded instantly killing all 5 on board near the Titanic wreckage. First ppl to die around the Titanic site in over 110 years......
Sailor here, binoculars are useless at night unless you are trying to see something specific more precisely. You're better off without them for general lookout.
10:55 It wasn't a hole. You see, the iceberg popped open rivets, which allowed the hull plates to retract and expand away from eachother, causing spillage. It was more of a break
29:32 Fang Lang survived by laying atop a huge table, and was picked up by Boat 14, despite Lowe almost turning away due to his race; Chinese.
“Aye Lee, do you see anything?”
“Too dark to see much of anything Fleet”
“True that Lee”
Literally 2 minutes later
*Fleet and Lee see the iceberg*
“Shoot shoot shoot!”
*Lee rings the bell while Fleet calls*
“IS ANYONE THERE?”
“Yes, what do you see?”
“Iceberg! Right Ahead!”
*Murdoch runs to his men*
“ICEBERG RIGHT AHEAD! HARD A STARBOARD”
What I like to imagine happened in the crows nest and bridge that night
I used to live in the town, and near to the home where the bandmaster Wallace Hartley lived before he went aboard the Titanic, a blue plaque resides upon the house in memorial of his passing aboard the ship, and there are several small monuments and memorials dtted about the town of Colne in Lancashire for both him and the ship...
I used to live near Colne (Nelson) and had no idea the bandmaster came from there
@@michelletempleton2505 Yep, there's even a memorial for him in Colne cemetary on Keighley Road, also, and I may be mis-remembering, but I think someone found one of his old violins somewhere in the town in an attic too...
A friend of mine had a great uncle who was on the titanic. He told me his great uncle saw the ship split apart from one of the lifeboats and could hear the screaming of people in the water.
What lifeboat was he on
Not the TH-cam algorithm suggesting this for me because of the missing Logictech submarine 🤦🏾♀️
Actually, the engines where never reversed, triple expansion steam engine, reversal, commonly known as a "Double ring astern" would have taken vastly more time than they had, by the time the Titanic struck the iceberg the engines wouldnt have wound down enough for them to engage the reversing engine, let alone get the props to stop windmilling from the current velocity and spinning in the right direction. From the investigation, it was found that the command rung down to the engine room was "All Stop", a mistake in itself as well.
The giant hole torn in the side that is debated is suspected to be from a coal bunker fire which may have weakened the iron in that particular area. Investigations to the iron and quality of construction in the day have shown though that the quality was of the finest and rivals some of the construction of todays vessels. Being a rivited vessel, rivet heads were shorn off, however this may have what allowed the vessel to survive longer vs a welded hulled vessel.
@@leon419 The only fire was a small one in a coal bunker, which had been extinguished at least a day before the collision.
Do you seriously believe that Smith would have set out to cross the Atlantic in a ship with a compromised hull?
@@leon419 For how factual your first comment was I'm surprised you believe the coal fire theory. People act like it was a raging fire even though it was just smoldering coals.
@@grain_not Never said I believed, just that it was a highly debated theory. As to why there was even a coal bunker fire, Titanic at the time had to use sub par coal due to.a coal strike at the time.
@@leon419 after reading and looking through i don’t really think the fire was really far enough to the stern that actually caused the water compartments to get water in them.
What a boss that Chef was. Went down on ship like elevator and still lives
Charles Joughin also saved many lives besides getting super drunk. He stepped out of Lifeboat Nr.10 (he was assigned to it as crew) and gave his spot to a lady. He also spent about an hour throwing deck chairs and anything that would float into the ocean. After that he went back below with a stop at the kitchen and drank some more. Then as she went down and rolled over (not like in the movie) he stepped onto her hull and walked past the propellers into the water with his hair dry.
He then proceeded to balance on a table on his fours, in the water up to his knees and elbows. Miraculaously he did not suffer hypothermia and survived finally being picked up out of the water. He spent by far the longest time outside of a boat of anyone and survived. I speculate alcohol kept his arms and legs warm enough that he did not suffer paralysis like many after a few minutes and so he was able to remain swimming and find a piece of furniture to balance on. Historic Travels has a great video on him.
Man what a terrifying night that must've been
It’s very ironic that this has came up on my timeline
same, i was about to say that “Huh, that is…interesting timing posting this n-oh, 10 months ago”
When Jack was in the sea it made ME feel cold 🥶
He lives on in our hearts
Fun fact: There's a Baptist preacher shown in the 1997 or so movie who gave multi-denominational mass and prayers on the deck as the ship was sinking. He was a real person. He was also the brother of my great, great grandfather. His name was William Bateman and was from Bristol. He went down with the ship.
Imagine enjoying this luxury liner for a few days, only to be woken up in the middle of the night and told that the ship will sink.
It'd be worse. You wouldn't have been told the ship was sinking. If you were a woman or child, you'd be asked to board a tiny wooden boat in the middle of the sea in the middle of the freezing cold night. If you were lucky, you'd be told it was a precaution and that the ship might be damaged. The ship seems stable, so there's not any panic at all, and in fact, many people choose to stay aboard the liner as she seems safer. If you got into the boat, you'd drift out onto the open sea and you'd end up helplessly watching the bow creep more and more below the waterline until all of the ship's lights suddenly went out.
@@SaraRoseVaughan What a horrific night!
Or enjoying the Carpathia for a days then waking up in the middle of the night due to your room getting cold and discovering that you’re on rescue mission shortly after.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY And seeing all those poor people who barely survived and lost their loved ones.
As Eva Heart said in her interviews. Carpathia threw down rope later. Now what were the children sapose to do?( She herself was a 7 year old girl at the time) they put all the children in luggage bags and hulled them on bord. Eva Heart has given many interviews. She was as mentioned 7 years old back then. One of the last survivors to die who were old enough to realy remember and comprehend what was going on.
8:20 This is a mistake. It wasn't Captain Smith but the radio operator Jack Phillips who said "Keep out; shut up, I'm working Cape Race".
You mentioned the wrong John Jacob Astor. The man on the Titanic was his great grandson, John Jacob Astor IV.
This video is full of misinformation and falsehoods.
Imagine being super rich and in first class on the titanic and you could of lived if you brought an inflatable pool toy for 25cents, before the ship left.
Not necessarily. That water was around 20°F.. well below freezing. They would've froze to death in the water, with a float or not
Speeding while in a part of the ocean with an iceberg warning was more common in that time period than one would believe. The thinking of ocean liner high brass was to get through the ice field as quickly as possible.
Millvina Dean wasn't nine years old when the Titanic sank. She was only two months old, making her the youngest passenger of the ill-fated luxury liner
She was 9 weeks old, probably miscommunication of information. Had it google it myself and looks like she was born in 1912.
She was 9 weeks old, probably miscommunication of information. Had it google it myself and looks like she was born in 1912.
Titanic carried more lifeboats required by Law. Also the missing binoculars. Binoculars especially at Night narrow your field of view. Yes its possible fleet could have seen the Iceberg sooner but at the same time the Titanic entered an area that can create a cold weather mirage and a False horizon. Making it even harder to see. Also the flat calm was because Titanic was on the southern tip of a large Ice Field. Given law at the time and i believe Lowe also said it. If its clear and calm carry on to keep schedule. Also its generally believed now that Titanic didn't reverse her Engines she went to all stop which was the Collision avoidance maneuver and Murdoch was a senior officer. This is backed up as survivors from the Boiler rooms got an all Stop order and only 4th officer Boxhall said he saw Reverse on the telegraph.
Man i remember myself at a young age just going on and on talking about it researching about it and making school projects on it just to later on get an A for creativity
It is also thought that if the Titanic would have just hit the iceberg straight on that she would have survived the Collision and not as many watertight compartments would have flooded
It's actually a mixture of cold AND warm fronts that create the mentioned mirage. However, you are correct on the extra lifeboats, these were the 4 collapsibles. Though, I'm not sure if the cutters were extras as well Since all ships at the time carried a maximum of 16 and the Titanic carried 14 2ton Clinker Built boats. The 2 cutters would make it 16 And they each weighed 1½ tons. The 4 extra collapsibles weighed less than a ton each.
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Murdoch never ordered the engines reversed, he ordered them stopped. Also just turning the rudder full over takes about 20-30 seconds. Titanic had about 2/3 her length to avoid the iceberg, a distance she would cover in about 15 seconds. We do know the rudder was completely over in the port turn, so assuming the rudder movement took around 20 seconds, there was no way she could have avoided the iceberg at that distance.
Unfortunately, the wireless operators put passenger messages a priority which is why they set the iceberg warnings aside. They did this because they were paid to send passenger messages and they had a backlog since the machine and broken down. If they had put the iceberg warnings together, they would have known that they were sailing into an ice field
They did take the ice warnings seriously as the Smith redirected its route further south.
@@grain_not You're half right. There's nothing to suggest Smith moved the ship further south, but they were well aware of impending ice.
Passenger messages were paid for and were a major reason for wireless aboard ships, especially luxury liners like Titanic. The technology was still in its infancy, so people didn't really know its true capabilities. That said, the crew on the bridge was very well aware of the ice field. They knew where it was sighted, and they knew they were heading towards it. They weren't going in completely blind.
@@SaraRoseVaughan Smith did change course to a southwest route over directly west after the initial ice warnings. The problem was the ice travelled further south than anyone could have anticipated.
@@josephgregorowicz5135 As far as I'm aware, there's nothing actually suggesting he did that. It's more likely he kept the ship on course, which makes sense. Keeping her on the standard, heavily trafficked shipping course would be better in case of emergency.
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Thomas Andrews... I've learned recently that Thomas Andrews was not hanging out in the lounges admiring his work, as popularly believed in the movies and shows. It's now widely believed that he was seen with the Captain. He knew every inch of that ship and was a caring soul. He helped people until there was nothing else he could do. He was thought to have jumped out either with, or before the captain. Something along those lines, as you've stated.
At roughly 2:05 AM standing by the bridge with Smith he said to Smith, she is going now, we have to go. They both stepped over the bridge wing into the water and watched her final plunge. Besides an unconfirmed sighting of the Captain they were never seen again. One man swam up to a boat and was told it was full. He said okay, god bless you and swam away. This may have been Smith though it is not confirmed and simply described as an old man.
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On a side note, he was seen in the first class smoking lounge, but this was at 1:40 am. Most likely, around that time, he went back down to the boiler Rooms or went back outside to help people evacuate.
Millvina Dean was only 2½ months old when Titanic sank. It doesn't take but a second to do the math and see that if she died in 2009 at 97 then she was born in 1912. Her Wikipedia page has her date of birth as February 1912. She was the youngest survivor of the Titanic. She survived with her mother but her father's body was never found.
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I reckon a lot of lives would’ve been saved if it wasnt for the shortage of life boats. The fact that ship stayed a float for over 2 hours shows how well built that ship was, especially when considering the damage it undertook!
Not true, only 18 of the 20 lifeboats they had were launched. In fact one of the last boats got out mere minutes before a tidal wave hit that part of the ship and the crew had to frantically cut the ropes with knives because they didn't have time to properly release it before the boat floated away in the tidal wave. This video seems to have many inconsistencies and biases tbh
From what I've understood, the lookouts spotted the iceberg about a minute or two before she stuck at 11:40 PM. Also the lifeboats could hold at least 65 people. Also Millvina Dean was all of 2 months old, not 9 years. There is also debate as to what Capt. Smith said, some say he said "It's every man for himself" others say he said "be British". She didn't raise that high out of the water either. She old had about 20-30 degree angle.
I always loved James Camerons interpretation of Thomas Andrews just standing there infront of the 1st class smoking rooms clock and as the ship goes down he either adjusts the time or stops the clock all together that lart is always debated i however love to belive he stopped the clock as i think that symbolizes the end of time this was at the point where there was no way off Titanic anymore you were almost guaranteed to lose your life at this point so i think him stopping the time is a great way to show that his time as well as the ship he built is done i think its a depressing scene in that film as well as his final words to rose those scenes always stuck with me mainly because of the fact that this was Andrews actual final moments
It was not the Captain who told the Californian to "shut up" it was one of the wireless operators besides that though the ice did not tear holes directly into the ships hull the ice caused the hull to start to bend outward near areas of metal plating riveted together this outward bending of the metal caused the rivets to start popping out of place and once there were no more rivets holding the metal plating together in the areas where the hull rubbed hard against the berg water could flow in through all of the now un-rivited unfastened plates of metal.
Yeah, it was Jack Phillips who said that.
There's an awful lot of wrong information in this video.
First, the crew of the Titanic weren't an amateur crew. They were practically veterans of the sea.
Second, Ismay didn't decide Titanic should have fewer lifeboats than was necessary. That was up to the White Star board. Who did commission Titanic to have four more lifeboats than was legally required for the outdated lifeboat regulations.
Third, Ismay didn't quickly sneak into a lifeboat. He helped with the evacuation and only abandoned ship close to the end when there was no one else getting into the boat.
Four, the lookouts saw the iceberg at 11:40pm.
Five, Murdoch didn't reverse the engines. He knew how Titanic functioned and knew it'll move quicker if at full speed.
Six, at 11:50pm the bow had risen... Wait, what?
Seven, CQD is just a convenient series of letters. The D does not stand for distress. That's what's called a Backronym.
Eight, Smith doesn't tell passengers to go to the wrong deck to get into lifeboats. It's easy to remember which deck they're on. It's called the boat deck. The plan was for the boats to lower down to the A deck promenade and allow people to climb onboard. But someone reminded Captain Smith that unlike Olympic (Titanic's near identical sister ship) the first half of Titanic's A deck promenade was shielded and enclosed. Where as Olympics was completely open. Which was why the order was changed.
Nine, there are no grills on Titanic preventing 3rd class passengers from going up to the boat deck and no doors were locked. That was made up for all the movies. They didn't go up because they were waiting to be told to go up.
Ten, there were no lifeboats on the second or third class promenade decks.
Eleven, Ismay didn't leave the ship until around 2:00am
Twelve, Emergency cutter number 2? There was no such lifeboat, and Lightoller forcing several men out of the boat at gun point is a new one on me. But seeing as there was no boats called emergency cutter either 1 or 2 I doubt this is true, and feels like an attempt at deliberate character assassination.
Thirteen, According to Lightollers testimony he never jumped off anything. Titanic sank from under him.
Fourteen, no one knows who was crushed under collapsing funnel 1.
Fifteen, someone was held accountable. The inquiry blamed the Captain. But he died. Presumably you mean no one alive was held accountable who could be blamed. Which was what the media wanted.
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Infographics gives a lot of content in a very digestible and enjoyable style but this is a reoccurring thing with their videos succumbing to misinformation and wide spread myths. Its nature given how wide spread the topics they cover but because of it if I truly want to learn about an event there’s other more reliable and consistent creators
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They also talked about John Jacob Astor I, but it wasn’t him who was on the ship. It was his great grandson, John Jacob Astor IV.
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4:34 It was John Jacob Astor IV who was on board the Titanic, a descendant of the John Jacob Astor shown in the video (still a man of considerable wealth as he inherited it from his great grandfather - the man in that painting). The John Jacob Astor referred to in this video and who's painting is shown, died in 1848, 64 years prior to the Titanic's voyage.
What caught me the most was the amount of influential people that were on the ship; both young and old
I have to say, I was disappointed to see Andrews credited as the ships designer here. I believe he merely took over management of the project that was largely completed from the gentleman truly responsible, Alexander Carlisle.