Oh. Nice. I'll be on the lookout for flexible beatgrids. It's nice Denon is able to work with other libraries. I just have found another potential brand for my next upgrade!
Nice one !. I got my MC7000 2yrs ago, so before the Prime4 came out. Thing it is not worth twice the cost for me over the MC7000 with a laptop running Serato. There is not really any additional features. Other than being standalone and can fit an internal HDD.
@@dj_paultuk7052 Well I guess but I do want to add that the whole workflow and the interface is amazing. Very straight forward and clean. I barely have to put in effort in implementing my ideas. Then again if you are already very used to your setup and you got that muscle memory built in, I'd say it's probably not that big of a change for you. I did find however that a laptop doesn't serve me well while mixing, which is the reason I was looking for a standalone in the first place.
Love split Que. Use it on my mc7000 all the time. Like you say you can DJ fully with no speakers in the middle of the night to practice. And no one would know !. If fact i did it last week 1 night. I couldnt sleep so ended up practising instead. Mrs didnt even know. lol.
You won't regret it. Just got a Prime 4 last week and loving it so far. When the SC's originally came out a mate got them and I hated them. The software was terrible and the jogs adjusted tempo too fast for my liking. The only thing I liked was that the loops were perfectly tight without the sync even turned on. But a few software updates later and it's all good, really can't fault it beyond Engine Prime analysing the odd track poorly (still able to use and mix the tracks just fine). But that'd happen with Rekordbox too from time to time. I've put an SSD inside the Prime 4 with all my music on it and it's easy enough to transfer new stuff over with the network cable that comes with it.
I got my Prime 4 about 6 weeks ago... OMG awesome piece of gear! Engine Prime let's it down a little, but I am sure they'll fix that up soon. 4 channels, built in wifi, no laptop, so cool.
@@shanepowell Engine Prime is definitely the weak link, but it is improving slowly. I've mostly switched to doing everything on the console and not using EP for anything... I've also gotten hooked on the ease of use of Tidal HiFi and the ability to download / stream and analyze and mix from a streaming platform is super useful.
*Please add Serato DJ Pro support* and many more people (just think about many DDJ-SB/SR/SX users who want to switch) can buy this unit, when they (sometimes) still need their laptop, e.g. for complex wedding gigs with many requests, where the small 7" screen just isn't sufficient. Otherwise fantastic unit, perfect compromise between Prime 4 and Go 👍
One thing that concerns me from a durability standpoint is the dead space underneath the screen. It's unavoidable with a tilting screen like the P4, but since it's fixed I'd have thought they would have filled in the area at the back, like the XDJ RX. Surely that would be a more durable solution if it was ever dropped or something
They are not designed for this. If you bought a turntable pre-amp, you could plug the turntable into the Aux, but it would simply be controlled by the single Aux volume control, not routed through the mixer in any way. The Prime 4 is the correct option if you want to incorporate turntables into the mix.
You're possibly referring to two different things. Yes, this has 3-band EQ, so you can do what you say, but other DJ systems nowadays have Stems separation where you can more effectively isolate the vocals. This does the former, but not the latter.
@@digitaldjtips looking forward to it. When will you be done with the full review. Please say somethin about sound quality more than just one sentence :)
Sound is pretty subjective if you're the kind of person who cares this deeply we'd highly suggest checking it out in person before spending any money on it :)
@@digitaldjtips thanks for the answer. Anyway you do a good job. I think sound subjective up to a certain point. Further its pretty scientific. I guess you know what I mean. Once I was going back and forward with Seratos costumer service until they confirmed they have a sound problem back when Serato DJ still was 32bit. Im not sepcialized on sound engeniering but I know a bit of what I do and that problem was quiet obvious. So when I was hoping to get decent sound with a 1000$ controller from pioneer (DDJ SX2) I was quiet disappointed about the sound it puts out.q
Not directly but if you're connected to a computer in controller mode via USB both drives should appear as externals on your pc / mac. (P4 since july) Otherwise at this time as far as i'm aware there isn't a provision to mount more than one drive at a time. You can use engine prime to ensure that your cue points / labels and loops etc are moved across as well to your other drive.
Thanks @@EricMcKearney that's good to know - hopefully Denon allows mounting different devices soon so the laptop becomes more and more obsolete for transfers etc.
@@djjakobofficial and to be clear you can absolutely switch to your internal or USB on the fly to load to another deck, I should have specified, just that you'll need to open up the source menu, choose the other drive, and then browse, and then do the same to switch back to the internal or another drive...whereas Tidal and your selected Drive can be switched just by tapping the drive/library button at the top left...so it's not really a limitation that I've come up against much. I usually had a laptop and a free USB stick handy so I could quickly get requests etc loaded if necessary but with Tidal that really relieves that issue.
@@digitaldjtips Those are decently good news so far, phew! 👍 Same situation like Pops, it would significantly improve flexibility and user acceptance, I am a SX-owner who really wants to switch, but I can't give up Serato DJ entirely, the 7" screen is just too small for heavy wedding stuff, still great for smaller club/bar gigs. Alternative would be getting something small but good like the Mixars Primo and add a SC5000 to that. But I prefer an all-in one unit though 😉
Once you have one of these standalone players you aren’t gonna want to use serato cause using it standalone is way better. It limits way too many features when you use it in serato mode
@@jbucku324 Well said, initially the totally standalone workflow seemed super foreign after using Serato extensively, but you're right, now that i'm adjusted to the workflow on the P4 (and not using Engine Prime at all except for occasional library management) it feels VERY weird and enough is different to cause me to almost hate serato. Its prob for the best it wasnt available when I first got the P4 as I'm thrilled with the native workflow now.
@@jbucku324 You and others simply don't understand, that users like Justin and me don't want to use the Prime 2 with Serato *entirely* but have a more flexible Swiss Army Knife unit, which *can* be used as a Serato controller, if you *need* a proper laptop. And believe me, you don't want to tackle my 8hrs wedding gigs with that cute 7" screen 😉. I would still use standalone for all other occasions but wouldn't have to buy an extra unit, simple as that.
You forgot to mention. The Prime 2 & Prime 4 are greatly flawed. You cannot hear the MIC signal through the headphones. So if your into broadcasting or recording or just want to hear the MIC that someone is talking into ontop of a noisy room. Do not get a Prime 2 or a Prime 4.
Yep that's a good point. That said, I wouldn’t call it a great flaw - it’s just a feature it hasn’t got. If that’s important to you, I can see why it would upset you. However it’s not something we have people talking about very often
Am in love with Denon Prime products!
they're so well built and the price is right
Denon really makes its consumers feel appreciated
They're doing a great job with the Prime series
thats cool to hear; have u used pioneer products and would u say the Denon products are where its at?
I'm here in California Amazing product info keep up the good work.
Oh. Nice. I'll be on the lookout for flexible beatgrids. It's nice Denon is able to work with other libraries.
I just have found another potential brand for my next upgrade!
We can't wait for flexible beatgrids either!
Brilliant shown great job
Thanks!
I got the prime 4 as my first controller and I couldn't be happier!!
Nice one !. I got my MC7000 2yrs ago, so before the Prime4 came out. Thing it is not worth twice the cost for me over the MC7000 with a laptop running Serato. There is not really any additional features. Other than being standalone and can fit an internal HDD.
@@dj_paultuk7052 Well I guess but I do want to add that the whole workflow and the interface is amazing. Very straight forward and clean. I barely have to put in effort in implementing my ideas. Then again if you are already very used to your setup and you got that muscle memory built in, I'd say it's probably not that big of a change for you. I did find however that a laptop doesn't serve me well while mixing, which is the reason I was looking for a standalone in the first place.
Glad you're enjoying it :)
nice JOB from Nigeria you are doing a great job
Thank you.
Love split Que. Use it on my mc7000 all the time. Like you say you can DJ fully with no speakers in the middle of the night to practice. And no one would know !. If fact i did it last week 1 night. I couldnt sleep so ended up practising instead. Mrs didnt even know. lol.
Yeah, a great option.
I love this gear 😍😍😍 no need to use loptop only your hardrive only.
Definitely :)
Would it be possible to do a video on how to cue the aux input on the denim prime 2
got mine today. works great with virtual dj 2021 too.
Awesome!
Hey Chris, I would love to see a video with the P2 and VDJ, there is no single one out yet, want to upload a short one? would be nice :)
Can you do a video on a full screen walkthrough for the Prime 2?
We'll definitely do a more in depth review on the Prime 2 at some point :)
Friday I'm pulling the trigger on Prime 4 or Prime 2. NICE!!!!
Great something to look forward to!
You won't regret it. Just got a Prime 4 last week and loving it so far. When the SC's originally came out a mate got them and I hated them. The software was terrible and the jogs adjusted tempo too fast for my liking. The only thing I liked was that the loops were perfectly tight without the sync even turned on. But a few software updates later and it's all good, really can't fault it beyond Engine Prime analysing the odd track poorly (still able to use and mix the tracks just fine). But that'd happen with Rekordbox too from time to time. I've put an SSD inside the Prime 4 with all my music on it and it's easy enough to transfer new stuff over with the network cable that comes with it.
I got my Prime 4 about 6 weeks ago... OMG awesome piece of gear! Engine Prime let's it down a little, but I am sure they'll fix that up soon. 4 channels, built in wifi, no laptop, so cool.
@@shanepowell Engine Prime is definitely the weak link, but it is improving slowly. I've mostly switched to doing everything on the console and not using EP for anything... I've also gotten hooked on the ease of use of Tidal HiFi and the ability to download / stream and analyze and mix from a streaming platform is super useful.
Eric McKearney yes, love Tidal. Also really looking forward to BeatPort which is coming in June apparently.
*Please add Serato DJ Pro support* and many more people (just think about many DDJ-SB/SR/SX users who want to switch) can buy this unit, when they (sometimes) still need their laptop, e.g. for complex wedding gigs with many requests, where the small 7" screen just isn't sufficient. Otherwise fantastic unit, perfect compromise between Prime 4 and Go 👍
Would be nice :)
I would love to jump to the prime 2 , will there be a related tracks feature like rekordbox in the near future??
You can set filters (say, by key and BPM range) which is similar.
🍓 awesome DJ system
Indeed!
just got a prime 2, when going from SD to USB to Sata hd, does the system need to reset like when going to Computer mode.?
Would have love to see an internal video card (HDMI) for and external monitor .
Perhaps in a MK2
This is a great piece of equipment btw!!but When is the sc6000 coming out? It’s supposed to be in April right?
Definitely soon.
Hi Phil quick question on the sc6000 how do input your own sound effects as a sample (if possible).
There ae no samplers on these units. you could add them as an audio track and use cue points to trigger them.
One thing that concerns me from a durability standpoint is the dead space underneath the screen. It's unavoidable with a tilting screen like the P4, but since it's fixed I'd have thought they would have filled in the area at the back, like the XDJ RX. Surely that would be a more durable solution if it was ever dropped or something
Perhaps, time will tell
I think it is not entirely 'dead'! Had the same concern, but look closer at rear images from the unit. Seems partly filled.
Looks pretty nice but seems a bit high in price I’ll stick with the Rane 12’s
The Rane 12's are awesome so no loss there :)
I understand there is no eq on each mic channel just one ,if that is correct Denon have got it wrong as most controllers costing a lot less have this.
Thanks for weighing in Tony
Really interested in a Prime 2 or Prime Go, is there any way of using my Denon turntable with either option?
They are not designed for this. If you bought a turntable pre-amp, you could plug the turntable into the Aux, but it would simply be controlled by the single Aux volume control, not routed through the mixer in any way. The Prime 4 is the correct option if you want to incorporate turntables into the mix.
@@digitaldjtips thought that was the case, thank you for confirming!
Wow!! Looks very pricey btw in general which controller is your favorite?
Can you run the monitor speakers direct or do you still need an amplifier
You still need an amp
Used denon dj prime 2 or denon dj sc live 4?
im surprised nobody mentioned it - there are no color sound effects just the filter. You lose wash effect etc....big miss there.
Well you do stil have two FX engines, so there is at least a way of applying extra effects. Well pointed out though.
Can you separate the eqs I.e. cutting out all highs and lows so you can only hear vocals ect
You're possibly referring to two different things. Yes, this has 3-band EQ, so you can do what you say, but other DJ systems nowadays have Stems separation where you can more effectively isolate the vocals. This does the former, but not the latter.
@@digitaldjtips ok thank you , will the sc6000 and the x1800 do that ?
Nice comoetition to the Pioneer XDJ 2 but what about the sound quality?
Full review coming soon, this was just a quick first look :)
@@digitaldjtips looking forward to it. When will you be done with the full review. Please say somethin about sound quality more than just one sentence :)
Sound is pretty subjective if you're the kind of person who cares this deeply we'd highly suggest checking it out in person before spending any money on it :)
@@digitaldjtips thanks for the answer. Anyway you do a good job. I think sound subjective up to a certain point. Further its pretty scientific. I guess you know what I mean. Once I was going back and forward with Seratos costumer service until they confirmed they have a sound problem back when Serato DJ still was 32bit. Im not sepcialized on sound engeniering but I know a bit of what I do and that problem was quiet obvious. So when I was hoping to get decent sound with a 1000$ controller from pioneer (DDJ SX2) I was quiet disappointed about the sound it puts out.q
Do you guys know if it’s possible to transfer music directly from a usb stick to the built in hard drive?
Not sure, it's a good question. We'll ask.
Not directly but if you're connected to a computer in controller mode via USB both drives should appear as externals on your pc / mac. (P4 since july) Otherwise at this time as far as i'm aware there isn't a provision to mount more than one drive at a time. You can use engine prime to ensure that your cue points / labels and loops etc are moved across as well to your other drive.
Thanks @@EricMcKearney that's good to know - hopefully Denon allows mounting different devices soon so the laptop becomes more and more obsolete for transfers etc.
@@djjakobofficial and to be clear you can absolutely switch to your internal or USB on the fly to load to another deck, I should have specified, just that you'll need to open up the source menu, choose the other drive, and then browse, and then do the same to switch back to the internal or another drive...whereas Tidal and your selected Drive can be switched just by tapping the drive/library button at the top left...so it's not really a limitation that I've come up against much. I usually had a laptop and a free USB stick handy so I could quickly get requests etc loaded if necessary but with Tidal that really relieves that issue.
Is there anyway to download a song from the internet using the XDJ-RX3 as a standalone?
No
@@digitaldjtips What about using a Denon Prime 4 or 2?
Do jog wheels light up ?
There's a light around the inner rim, hard to see here
Miss these live and you miss the drama of the spammer. Now I want to know what they spammed. lol
lol
Phil. I Am Using My Third Stimulus Check From The Gov. And Buying this Controller This Month. Am Excited Health and Happiness to you ! dj discOworm
Enjoy!
from now on i am calling you "DOCTOR PHIL"
Lol nice one :)
Thank You, Doctor Phil !
Hi Phil, how’s the build quality especially the pots?, I’m coming from the xdj series.
I have no complaints.
Can we play samples at this unit ?
No
How is pad colour?
Pads are full colour and bright.
hello why would this unit already be discontinued? thanks.
We keep hearing that. We'll check...
@@digitaldjtips thank you...😎
Serato support needed
They haven't said "no"...
Digital DJ Tips the quicker they do it is better for them, that’s the only thing stopping me from getting one.
@@digitaldjtips Those are decently good news so far, phew! 👍
Same situation like Pops, it would significantly improve flexibility and user acceptance, I am a SX-owner who really wants to switch, but I can't give up Serato DJ entirely, the 7" screen is just too small for heavy wedding stuff, still great for smaller club/bar gigs. Alternative would be getting something small but good like the Mixars Primo and add a SC5000 to that. But I prefer an all-in one unit though 😉
XDJ-RX2 or Prime 2?
Prime 2 is the more powerful of the two, if that helps, by quite a long way.
Nice not needing a laptop since I don’t have one
For sure :)
Damn I'd love one of these but the price is putting me off :-/
Yeah it's easy to make the argument to just go for the Prime 4
s4 or prime2?
They are very different. Do you want to use a laptop when DJing or not?
Hi can we play with serato
Once you have one of these standalone players you aren’t gonna want to use serato cause using it standalone is way better. It limits way too many features when you use it in serato mode
I'm sure in the near future it'll be compatible with serato pro. The prime 4 has it so there's no way they'll leave out the prime 2.
@@jbucku324 Well said, initially the totally standalone workflow seemed super foreign after using Serato extensively, but you're right, now that i'm adjusted to the workflow on the P4 (and not using Engine Prime at all except for occasional library management) it feels VERY weird and enough is different to cause me to almost hate serato. Its prob for the best it wasnt available when I first got the P4 as I'm thrilled with the native workflow now.
Eric McKearney exactly. Totally feel you on that
@@jbucku324 You and others simply don't understand, that users like Justin and me don't want to use the Prime 2 with Serato *entirely* but have a more flexible Swiss Army Knife unit, which *can* be used as a Serato controller, if you *need* a proper laptop. And believe me, you don't want to tackle my 8hrs wedding gigs with that cute 7" screen 😉. I would still use standalone for all other occasions but wouldn't have to buy an extra unit, simple as that.
Can anyone hear a popping sound every few seconds?
Nice review btw Phil!
It's the sound of notifications coming in, we usually mute it :) Thanks!
Even in “basic” models, Denon left pioneer far behind
Seems like the prime 2 is being discontinued. Let’s see what’s round the corner.
Where did you hear that?
@@digitaldjtips I read it on the denon dj forum and I’ve also phoned a couple of suppliers and they said there not getting anymore in.
DENON VS PIONEER 💪💪😷😷
Who is your choice? :)
Denon has more new technology...but for me, quality and professional feeling matter.
That's why I choose PIONEER!💪
No offense.
Denon comes strong from behind...
But for me Pioneer remains first. 😁
You forgot to mention. The Prime 2 & Prime 4 are greatly flawed. You cannot hear the MIC signal through the headphones. So if your into broadcasting or recording or just want to hear the MIC that someone is talking into ontop of a noisy room. Do not get a Prime 2 or a Prime 4.
Yep that's a good point. That said, I wouldn’t call it a great flaw - it’s just a feature it hasn’t got. If that’s important to you, I can see why it would upset you. However it’s not something we have people talking about very often
After a couple of updates you now can send mic to headphones, in settings
Too bad it doesn't support Serato.
Yes, it is a shame.