3 Tom Scholz Licks From 1979
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- Here's the next episode of Three-For-All with 3 Tom Scholz Licks From 1979. As I mentioned in this lesson, this entire episode revolves around fretboard tapping, while also revealing an elusive and misunderstood story surrounding Boston, Van Halen, and how countless players on the scene targeted Eddie's famed tapping technique during the late 1970s and beyond.
While I mean absolutely zero disrespect to Edward Van Halen or his legacy (after all, he's the entire reason I started playing the guitar), this lesson does shed some light on a few historically accurate stories circulating around the fact that Eddie's ferocious techniques, tones, and approaches impressed and influenced legions of guitarists - including some big-name players, such as Boston's Tom Scholz.
The licks in this lesson came from a live performance in 1979, which was a year after Van Halen opened for Boston at a stray festival gig, which was precisely when Tom noticed Eddie's jaw-dropping talent and borrowed his tapping techniques to explore creating his own music and variations using the idea. For those unfamiliar with this history, there are plenty of additional stories along this line surrounding Eddie's "eruptive" influence and impact on other players - including some big names such as Ronnie Montrose, Ted Nugent, Randy Rhoads, George Lynch, and many more!
Needless to say, Eddie Van Halen impressed the world with his musical talent and that noticeably includes influencing various guitar legends - such as Tom Scholz. I've always found these side-stories interesting and it seems you can get lost in reading/research when trying to make sense of these classic myths and elusive legends surrounding absolute giants of music and the guitar. I don't know about you, but I love this kind of stuff!
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Scholz imho was a genius! Incredibly melodic solos & great phrasing! Rock on 🍺’ski!🤘
Right, and also a great electronics engineer, the rockman ! and other stuff, very talented guy.
Not just opinipn
SCHOLZ=GENIUS
There's a Q and A with Barry Goudreau, Boston's other guitarist. Someone asked about the Boston guitar tone. Barry said they wanted to emulate Bad Company's rhythm guitar sound, and Jeff Beck. They did the wah wah half way trick also.
Tom Scholz is amazing and was really my first rock guitar (or any guitar genre) hero when I was a kid in the 70s. Deserves a lot of credit and recognition. And what an interesting and accomplished background on so many fronts.
And for a guitar player, his keyboard and bass playing was awesome !!
Not to mention an engineering genius!!! His stuff...was so ahead of its time....I see Scholz...I click....good stuff Proff. Brew!!
I’m not a guitar great however I was tapping back in 1975. I was lessons from a guitarist from Neil Diamonds’s guitarist from the Hot August Night live show band. He showed me tapping.
Evh made it mainstream and made pieces of music with it before anyone else tho. He brought it to the forefront. He never claimed he created it like some like think.
The guys in the photos are clearly giving their neck a quick relief check, not tapping.
Great stuff, as always, LNL!
1:58 Per Wikipedia, Steve Lynch had a sophisticated tapping technique and was told, when Autograph opened for VH in 1984, that he couldn't use it because it was "Eddie's thing". Of course, we know in the club days, Ed would turn his back to the audience. Both Van Halen and their management were very territorial about "intellectual property", even if they didn't own the "patent", so to speak.
I’m glad BB King didn’t get mad at me for borrowing his licks!
I can't believe you did that. I'm not aware of any other guitarist in the history of the instrument borrowing another guitarist's licks or techniques. It's not like that's basically how every guitarist ever learned how to play. Perish the thought! ;)
@@boomerdell lol!!
When I think of Tom , I think of the amazing tone the guy had . Yes , a hell f a player too !!!
Tom's taps are so original sounding!
Absolutely love your stories and education! You’re an awesome player too. Thanks man 👍🏻
I believe I will grow old until you finally give in and feature Stryper... but I still love your channel!
Tom saw Eddie whipping it out 😲
Good one Dave LOL.😃 😄
In the early days of Van Halen Eddie would turn his back to the crowd so they couldn't see what he was playing tapping wise. As soon as the cat was out of the bag everyone started doing it. Great lesson on this topic DAVE ROCK ON.🎸
I was wondering if tapping would make an appearance...........also worth mentioning his genius for composition and songwriting as well as electronics, phrasing.....
Genius.
(People were also sweeping before Yngwie and Frank...........)
Thanks Dave.
I’m not sure that touring with VH influenced Tony Iommi too much ! Great lesson for those of us who still love tapping and I enjoyed the intrigue too . Oh and one other thing - let’s have some Bernie Torme puhlease 🇬🇧👍
Hi Dave, Great lesson. TS is a ground breaking player, engineer and producer.
🙉 can’t wait to get home and learn it🎸🙏 thanks brother 👍
Liked the story, I didn’t realize that. You definitely hear the early EVH tapping “influence” in those licks.
Yessir!!!! Thank you, David!!!! Amazing Episode! Great historical context, too!
Well explained. I never could do it at all. This makes it really understandable. Thanks.
David you always seem to have everything I need 😊 GOD BLESS you 💝 and your channel 🙏 is wonderful ❤️ and I truly appreciate all you do for me 💗😘 much love from Huntington WV 🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Awesome stuff!! Thanks for sharing this!!
I searched around. I love your content man. I don't think you did any cordplays or other content to Sammy Hagar as a solo artist. He has done some great riffs during his solo career. Some of my fav's are "Swept Away", "This planet's on fire (Burn In Hell)l", "Growing Pains" I think that be great! Again, Love your stuff! :)
don't forget frank zappa, late 60s he was tapping.
I tried to learn Transylvania Boogie one time. No two phrases are the same. You have to memorize every single note. I ended up giving up. Lol.
Please do a video on the chords/licks of Steve Hackett 😃
Steve was tapping in the early 70s (eg., Selling England by the Pound album from 1973)
Great video , Dave !! Tom is definitely one of my influences on guitar !! Great player !!
Excellent lesson
Excellent tut David, love the tapping backstory too. !
Awesome lesson 👍
So cool!!! I love your videos!!
Brilliant lesson, brother.
when will it be the Jerry García licks from 77, 73 or 72 ? 😁
Oh yes dude !!!
David: "Eddie Van Halen didn't invent tapping"
Tyler Larson enters the room
Do a Ronnie Montrose Finger tapping lesson. EVM getting upset over tapping like he is the first to do finger tapping. You can see Steve Hackett doing finger tapping in the early 70's and Harvey the snake Mandel was finger tapping in 1968 because Jimi Hendrix & Richie Blackmore went together and witnessed it at the Whiskey a Go Go. I actually prefer Tom Scholz fingering tapping over EVH and also Rick Derringer was finger tapping before EVH and After EVH. Rick Derringer solo finger tapping its some classical theme song sounds somewhat like the godfather theme.
Harveys 2nd guitarist russell dashiell played a superstrat that he build in 1969. Les paul humbucker in the bridge. Obviously not as famous as the Frankenstein strat. Evh and mr scary went to see harveys band in the early 70s. Pictures are on google images in black n white.
@@hopespotbrand.1725 Russell Dashiell put a MINI humbucker in the bridge. EVH used an 1958 335 humbucker. They are completely different but yes I'm sure he got the idea from Russell
Tapping was definitely raised to a new level thanks to EVH, but it became gimmicky when it was (is) used too much (like anything).
Just found your channel, Subscribed, you come over as honest. There's so much bs in guitar. I'm heading for 63 and haven't played in bands since the 90's so hearing you youngsters cut through and actually teach is awesome. Best wishes from the UK.
You need to make a video on that More Than a Feeling prelude from that same Giants Stadium Concert. It sounds amazing. He uses diminished chords with a guitar lead.
Love the early Boston stuff and Tom really is a genius when you boil it down... I was going to ask for a request and didn't even realize there is no messenger on here anymore so I'll ask here, am hoping you will do something on Matthias Jabs. I know you have done the chord play and some Schenker links but Matthias seems left out of so many of these playlists.. hoping you can get one done... 🙂
Jabs is the German evh imo. Love his playing and he’s one of my favourites of all time..
Much like the Spanish Inquisition, no one was expecting that!
It’s fascinating to read up on the history of tapping. Some of the earliest reports of instrument tapping date back to the early 1800s when an Italian musician named Niccolò Paganini used the technique on his violin. Paganini was famous as a violinist but he himself preferred guitar and thought himself a better guitarist than a violinist. It’s quite possible he tapped on his guitar, too, but that’s not verified.
There are recordings dating back over a 100 years ago of players tapping on their banjos and guitars. And so on.
Like many of you, I love EVH. And I love Tom Scholz. And I love many of the “tappers” of the 60s, 70s, and beyond. It’s quite likely none of them, or their fans, really knew at the time that tapping stringed instruments as a playing technique predated what they were doing by a couple centuries or more, but I hope people begin to realize that super-amazing and super-cool as our rock heroes are, and incredible as their music and well-deserved legacy might be, they moved the technique forward and popularized it for sure, but they aren’t in the debate about who invented it.
Check out Paganini Caprice no. 24. Definitely some interesting bow techniques on that one with the plucking and tapping of the violin strings. Then listen to Caprice no. 5 which is just blazing arpeggios and cascading chromatic scales. He was both the Yngwie and Van Halen of his day. So much a virtuoso that he was thought to be in league with Lucifer by some. Niccolo Paganini was the original metal god.
@@EarthAltar thanks so much for the recommendations, will absolutely give those a listen!
@@boomerdell No problem. Enjoy!
@@EarthAltar finally got around to listening to those recommendations of yours and -- wow! Shred-tastic. Such incredible energy. To play those pieces so well (as in the high quality recordings I found on TH-cam) must take years and years of hard work. Such speed and precision. Amazing. Thanks again for introducing me to Niccolo Paganini, the Patron Saint (or Patron Demon, take your pick) of metal!
@@boomerdell For my money, Michael Rabin can't be beat. His renditions of all 24 Caprices have the most fire and ferocity. Maybe not as clean as some others, but the passion is on full display. Also check out Hilary Hahn doing Paganini: Violin Concerto No.1 in D, Opus 6. The Allegro will literally make it hard to breathe. Just thinking about it gets me a little misty eyed.
Boston's debut is my all time favorite album .
im glad you made this because im approaching tapping lately and i heard about him and its good to get some other styles than eddie rip big dogg we love you
Ace Frehley did tapping on Shock me on Kiss Alive 2 Album in 1977.
True. Just for the sake of accuracy, at that time Gene Simmons had already recorded some of his demos together with Alex and Eddie Van Halen for the Love Gun album. So as his bandmate it is very likely that Ace knew about Eddie‘s skills.
And hit a bad note in the phrase but left it in anyway because, Rock n Roll!
Actually he was doing it in 1974 and 1975 also. Check out the winterland video
You should point out that Eddie himself has said he didn’t create tapping.
Exactly, and he said it relatively recently and waaaay back when. What he DID do was supercharge it to absolutely unprecedented levels and took it beyond what anybody else could/would do until the day he passed. The fluidity, the drive, the musicality were endlessly astonishing and inspiring. RIP hero.
Thanks!
Had no clue Tom did any tapping or that there was some sort of feud. But there were many who came after EVH that actually out-tapped him; like Vito Bratta, Joe Satriani, and Steve Vai. It became more about Eddie's monster tone coupled with his tapping in the end. I can see how it would've got under his skin though, it was kind of "his thing" in the beginning. Great lesson!
I'm sure Vito, Satch, and Vai could tap really good, but to say they out tapped Ed is a stretch. They didn't come up with anything close to Eruption, Mean Street, Women in Love, Spanish Fly, or Romeo's Delight. It's about the final product not how fast or how complicated your tapping is.
@@mojodojo5533 no offense but Vitto out tapped him. Vitto's solo compliments the song and in many of his solos he incorporated many classical motifs rather then just doing the basic tapping that Eddie did.
@@eldirtyfaygo5395 none taken bro
Agreed vittos tapping is quite insane… same with reb beach where he does insane scales that you’d normally sweep but he taps them..
another amazing tap guitar player was was Jeff Watson with his 8 finger technique.
i may have said this before, my sister took me to the show in Anaheim for my 16th birthday, it was amazing, also very loud and hot so they had to hose the audience down with fire hoses. VH parachuted in to the back of the stadium (?) heard later that it wasn't them at all. Had to leave after Dont Look Back as luck would have it, when we arrived at the show we found a parking spot in the front to the stadium (never happens) and were stressed that we would be stuck in traffic ... great show.
If its the same concert video that I'm thinking of, the most amazing part of it TO ME was the early version of the Walk On epic. Oh yeah, the bass player was awesome too. Make more BOSTON videos. Thanks.
Evh and george lynch went to see harvey mandel live in the early 70s. Harvey was finger tapping then and as early as 68.jimi hendrix,ritchie Blackmore was there jim morrison got kick out of gig for yelling at harvey. Back to 70s gig ,Also harveys 2nd guitarist russell dashiell played a superstrat. Les paul humbucker in the bridge position. That he build in 69. Afew black and white Pictures are on google image of russell holding the strat. These guys are all great.
Please do the Tom Scholz melodic phrasing lesson. Great lesson. Thanks!
I heard that Tom Scholz did 8 finger tapping. Curious if anyone can confirm this? The way he hovers his right hand over the fret board gives that illusion, but NOT the same thing.
What I found strange was that his fretting hand thumb was hanging out trying to hitch a ride while he was tapping. Totally weird, but if it works, go with the flow.
Def not. Maybe you’re thinking of Jeff Watson from night ranger.. also Joel hoekstra.
tom scholz is amazing guitarist.
Edgar Winter Group's They Only Come Out at Night, IMO made an uncredited impression on Tom Scholz. Give Free Ride a listen at the 50 second mark and 39 second mark in Frankenstein (the whole song for that matter) - picture Scholz decked in his Dracula cape at the organ with all the stops out, playing this sucker.
Kerry Livgren from Kansas may have found some of his guitar tone from "Undercover Man," from the same album - Ronnie Montrose. Ronnie MAY have influenced Eddie Van Halen Eruption concept - list to Frankenstein beginning at the 2:49 mark.
Barry Goudreau's solo on Boston's Long Time have some major whammy bends and reckless abandoned style - Eddie would have heard this in 1976. Yes, that is Barry on that guitar solo NOT Tom Scholz. Just ask Barry yourself if you don't believe me.
Barry was known as a tapper too. And yes that is his solo on long time.
What kind of pickups on your Les Paul? They’re sound pretty good.
Funny thing is that they are two completely different styles of tapping yet I think both of them had the same idea or reason for it, keyboards or to some what recreate that sound to some degree 👏🤘
I can see where tapping would appeal to Tom. He has said many times that his organ work is better than his guitar (let that sink in).
Was watching Austin City limits oh about 25 years ago and on comes an organ player , he played 2 guitars one on a stand. I was amazed he played stairway to heaven. I can't even begin to explain but he used some of those techniques.
If I remember correctly his name Stanley Jordan
Imitation is the highest form of flattery
Dave, thanks for this one. EVH also had a run-in with Rick Derringer back in '78 where Rick ripped off Ed's solo each night. It didn't go well. On to Tom, an absolute genius. Boston was a real high for rock music at the time. Tom's great but then there's Brad Delp. Like Ed and Dave, the music would have been as interesting but was made great with the singers. Love them both. I know people that hate them both. That's music! Always appreciated.
Don’t forget Barry goudreau the other guitarist in the band
We all Here are Van Halen fans, no doubt!
Is that a Dahli hanging to the right of the Boston picture?
Cool video.
True Eddie didn't invent tapping but he did master it ... 2 others in my opinion are Randy Rhoads and Vito Bratta.
Steve Lynch is no slouch either with tapping.
Jeff Watson too.
Reb Beach too.
@@EarthAltar YES!
.008- .011- .015 on Tom's plain strings on the Paul for those big bends and vibrato. Probably worked great for the tapping too.
Tom was tapping long before they toured with Van Halen . . . . . there are at least 2 examples on the debut album.
Steve Hackett did a lot of tapping long before Eddie as well.
Eddie was also kind of an asshole to opening bands because of tapping too. He specifically told Autograph to cut tapping from their set. Steve Lynch was not happy with that and that may be the reason he left the business. He's very bitter per a video interview on YT.
@@wulfenii64 He should've challenged Eddie to a tap off. Christ, I love Eddie, but if I see one more tapping lesson in lieu of an actually EVH lesson, I'm going to scream. Tom Scholz' tapping in the video is more interesting than anything Eddie did with tapping. Besides that, Hammerhead is light years beyond Eddie.
Tom scholz couldn’t string evhs guitar. Dont be a clown. Evh is one of the most influential guitarists of all time. No evh = no 80s hair scene simply put. He created the 80s shred scene with his tapping, tone and super strat. Everyone else was a copycat.
Good stuff man... but you left out Roy Clark, he was "tapping" in the 60's
Excellent technique for someone with smaller hands...probably got used to teach that lagatto riff.
Early 70’s Ace frehley was tapping as well.
Thank you - yes EV did NOT create tapping he merely adopted it as his primary style and popularized it. plain and simple. yes he was an excellent guitarist but Scholz actually did tapping prior to VH first album from what I best recall. I believe Jeff Beck too if I recall.
I'd like to see a treatment on Cheap Trick.
It is not sacrilege or racist for stating the obvious. Thanks for the history lesson B🐓. I'd like to see Billy Gibbons tapping.
I think Eddie made it look cool by tapping in Rock and Roll music. Eddie's tapping runs sound more skilled and thought out than Toms. Sholtz' look and sound like noodling around.
Great lesson B🐓!
@Doctor Detroit That's true. Distinct tone, that's the key. Good point 👍.
Sholz wrote all the music and lyrics, played produced and recorded all the parts. And electrically engineered his own tone. Who else has done that? You're right about EVH just popularized tapping. Another example is Brian May on Bohemian Rhapsody. Shown in the video made at the time in 1975.
hell ya man!
Speaking of "The Nuge", why not a 3 for all of Nugent licks?
Possibly because David doesn't want to turn comments off.
Rick Barringer also taps right on and his guitar solos but it doesn’t sound anything like Van Halen. He does his own thing which is cool.
Ace Frehley tapped with his pick live in 75 during his solo break deal not very musical or thought out more of a show off move but similar idea to the eruption tapping thing
He also tapped during his 77 solo, and while it isn't very theory based, it was certainly something he did similarly on more than one occasion. He tapped during a TV show performance early on as well. It seems he stopped tapping (though I could be wrong about this) after 78.
Look into another Brewster....Lincoln Brewster (Steve Perry's guitarist on his solo projects). Que up and crank!!!!! "Let Your Glory Shine" and be amazed. You're welcome. 😁
Chet Atkins tapped and swept back in the 50's & 60's , don't forget the first all around Master of the guitar please
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Ace Frehley tapped notes on his neck with a pick in the mid 70's during his solo, I saw him doing it in a concert video from 1975 or so
Before evh it was a gimmick and a fancy trick. No one denies that. Evh made it popular and mainstream.
I've often despite my own respect for EVH's guitar ingenuity and perhaps expertise have often butted heads with some of his big fans even 20yrs or so ago and argued that he was not the innovator of such technique(s), but that he just was able to popularize them. I knew even back then that many other guitarists had utilized much of what he was doing to one degree or another, but I'd never bothered with the details, thus making my argument at best awkward at times. And it it not that I ever dismissed his popularizing of such musical techniques that predate modern pop music, either. EVH actually to some of those techniques is the equivalent of Segovia popularizing the guitar as he managed in his own era.
Nonetheless, cool bit here man!
Evh himself even said he didn’t invent it and how he discovered the idea. Most everyone agrees he made it mainstream, popular and was the first one to write actual pieces of music with it.
And... Ace is missing from the list. Kind of funny. I emailed Guitar Player regarding an article they did a few months back (or possibly late last year), where they say he didn't this or that, one of them was tapping, and I emailed them that actually, yeah he did tap, years before Eddie. I never received a reply from them.
I should also point out that Brian May did it too.
Everybody uses any licks available, after a while you start to peel off in your own direction. The last thing i have asked God for is the patience and open mindedness to be able to play these unlimited beautiful sounds. I'm 56 now and last time i set the guitar down i was 26. 30 years would have gone soooo far towards understanding and being able to play these things that twist your heart. I'm not looking for fame or money, just the ability to put my heart and soul into sounds. Humph, coulda, shoulda, woulda and no time like the present right?
Hey anyone, wasn’t terry kath a founding member of chicago?
yes
This TH-cam page is perhaps the most imfortative musically. No need of theory or judging needed. I was influensed by Hendrix, EVH and Carlos.
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Ironic because I remember seeing a video with Eddy talking about borrowing the idea from Jimmy Page and his moving the nut idea. Then again, Eddy was known to be a bit of a hot head. Tom pioneering work doesn't get nearly enough attention.
Eddie did not invent the technique.
He did elevate it to an art form.
And if you go back to some Adrian Belew interviews he talks about stumbling on this idea of using two hands and tapping the notes and finding out soon after a bunch of other guys where `stumbling` over the same idea? he thought of it first and they stole his idea was the jest of the interview, lol
but ya, wasnt at all expecting this for a tom scholz guitar lesson. wow. its buckethead stuff almost. well done.
Backatage drama...! 😮. Hahah.. Everyone has a story
Blistering solo idea
The situation is not over. Edward is no longer with us and we need to work with what we got.
Tom Scholz is what we got.
He wants to be Charitable and we have need of Veterans music center in Amarillo to control PTSD - He has no idea what he means to us.
I'm reaching out to everyone about this because we practice in Amarillo before going to Austin, Things are still not good because of what happened with Dime Bag. I do things Tom's way.
Steve Lynch from Autogragh had books published on tapping before Van Halen 1 even came out.
Evh made it popular and mainstream before anyone else. Fact
...a pretty silly debate.
I'm sure Tom Schultz being an awesome keyboard player as well saw an opportunity with the theory an applied it easily ...fair game early on but influenced by Eddie no doubt.
I think as guitar players, we just copy eachother, its kinda just how it works lol
At around nine minutes you’re playing attack Of the giant hogweed Riff By Steve Hackett In genesis who you are totally ignoring by the way in the story
Even the great Tom Scholz copied from Eddie. Because everybody wanted to be like Eddie once they heard him play. Problem is, there will always be only one Eddie. And no matter what kind of tapping was going on before Eddie, it certainly didn't sound like Eruption. Very informative video though - thank you!