I got my WR blue 2020 WRX premium w/performance package 3 days ago. I’m glad I got this instead of the STI. The 7k price difference alone makes this car worth it
I wish the Performance Package would have received the LED headlights. All it needs otherwise is a rear LSD and the current STI offers little advantage. Of course you could always do STI drivetrain swap :) I recently upgraded from a '16 WRX to a '19 STI w/ the Recaro package. I do miss how the FA responded to flex fuel. It was certainly faster than my STI and managed better gas mileage on E50 than I do on 91 in the STI.. But the STI certainly offers a more tactile, mechanical driving experience that the WRX can't match. Getting the STI for below invoice (over $4k under MSRP) certainly helped the decision. The WRX w/ Performance Package may have made my decision harder if it would have been available at the time. The Recaros and Brembos are a great combo for ~$2,800.
Test drove the 2020 performance package in the exact same color . Liked the car but the Dealer wanted 35k for it. Ended up getting the 2020 sti with short shifter package for 38k. For just a couple more grand the sti won me over
@@DJWolf Is that out the door? I know taxes will differ, but I got a quote for $33.5K out the door. Wondering if that's a decent price. It's the exact same car you have.
i got my 2020 limited in magnetite grey. Really wanted those red brembos, but i would rather have the LED headlights, harmon kardon speakers, and sunroof that come on limted. Might just buy the brakes later.
It sucks that you can’t get the brembos/performance package with the limited which doesn’t make sense because the premium doesn’t have led headlights or led daytime . Subaru desperately needs to up their game and bring on the next gen already .
Just picked up a 2020 Premium with the sport package. Overall I'm happy with the car but for the price I just can excuse the terrible sound system. This is bottom of the barrel sound quality and it doesn't help the that road noise is so loud in the cabin. The info system could be better as well. Really Subaru you cant give a real time miles to empty gauge? The gauge will read 200 miles to empty and then the next second go down to 150. The center console arm rest is a joke as well. You actually have to buy and aftermarket extender so you can actually rest your arm on it.
.. Agree, they put zero effort into the infotainment/speaker system and heavily boosted bass levels. The rest of the car is alright, but in all actuality is nothing to write home about. As a '19 base owner, I couldn't imagine paying more than $30k for this car. The added features don't warrant the price jumps. The performance package is the way to go, but is not worth the $35k msrp.
@@K03sport I got a really good lease deal. That's the only reason I got it. No money down. Sign and drive for 385.00 a month. I was looking at the type r but to get the same payments I would had to have put down 7k. No lease on the type r. Fuck that. I'd rather have that money in the bank. Actually thank god I didn't do that. I got the wrx as the pandemic was exploding. I would have been ready of jump off the ledge if I just spent 7k and they locked down the country.
Good to hear the complaints about it as I went with a 35th anniversary GLI instead and am wondering if I would have enjoyed the WRX more instead. Sounds like I made the right choice lol
Good review :D, now I know that my 2019 is pretty much the same as the 2020, except for the lack of brembo's and fancy seats lolz, which I am upgrading to a set from yellow speed *brakes and coil overs* seats as they are I think are fine, I don't plan to goto the track lol. I do plan to replace the wheels and tires, that is one thing I don't understand, why put summer specific tires on a rally inspired car ? lol
Was very much looking to purchase a 2019 WRX until went to 3 dealerships and they all wanted $35K+ .... instead I bought a New 2018 Camaro 1SS, 8-speed Auto .... $32k ...
I would've purchased a WRX years ago if they hadn't dropped the hatchback. I don't do sedans, so they need to bring back the hatch if they want to sell me one. I hope they realize their mistake and revive it for the 2021 redesign.
@Dave C. Hatches may be niche among the normal 'grocery getter' car buying crowd, but they are beloved and preferred by most of the enthusiast car buying crowd and that is who the WRX is for. Incidentally, I decided to by a 2020 WRX sedan after all. I hate that I had to make such a massive compromise and I'm still a little pissed about it, but rumor has it that the hatch is simply not coming back. It just made sense to me to buy one at the end of its life cycle for maximum reliability and the available knowledge base about the car, as opposed to buying the next gen that will be on an entirely new platform.
Back in 2006 and 2007 WRX had some sort of mini brembo 4 piston front and 2 piston back and affordable. I have a 2006 WRX TR Wich is the basic model. Why don't they bring the TR back with out making everything so expensive is almost the same price as a STI.
Subaru needs to make a performance premium version geared towards older people who love the performance but wouldn’t mind some sound deafening, upgraded stereo, heated seats, etc. I guess the new version might address these issues.
This is why all cars are blobbed corollas nowadays. Just buy an Audi s4 and you have all the comfort you want. The WRX should be a raw, driver focused car. Btw I am not too young myself.
@@RossLambert801 I am not into automative but any product needs product development, testing etc.That comes with huge costs. Plus if they go premium they directly compete with the big boys Vw group, Bmw, Daimler an so on. Given that Subaru is not a big manufacturer I am not betting my money on their car. Just my 2 cents.
@@StrongerThenYOU1923 If mazda, honda, hyundai, etc can all make various models of their cars I don’t see why Subaru can’t do the same. Have a base model, a semi luxury model, and a race model.
Good review, got it big guys in front, and little guys in the back. LOL, nice car. I wonder what type of radio system it has and the sound quality? I know over the years Subies are known for having awful radio system quality. Again good job.
if you notice the distance From the tip of the front bumper into front tire is too long thats i dont like for wrx and StI But the GTI and the Bmw is very close to the front bumper
The only thing good about the “performance package” is literally only the brakes, I just picked up a 2020 wrx BASE with a sti short throw shifter, it also doesnt have a sunroof which loses about 300 lbs, and I can care less about the rims since no one keeps them stock lol. Ps dont rev it past 4k rpm until 1k miles
The base is a great value, but you do get a lot of extra options going from base to premium like: Heated Seats, Heated windshield wipers, inverted struts, auto on/off headlights, larger 7" headunit, fog lights. You can also save some money if you're planning on getting aftermarket wheels because you can swap these 18" tires to your new wheels instead of buying all new tires. And with the performance package the recaro's has substantially nicer material as well. This particular car has been pretty much taken apart and protuned before 500 miles, lol
It's most likely going to be either a late 2021 model or even a 2022 model because we haven't seen any test mules, spy shots, etc. So it will likely be announced next year time time at the earliest.
That's looks like a 2019 Base with brembos. I say it looks like a base because the rims, clear head lights, fog/signal lights, no sunroof and no lights on mirrors.
They do look similar, with the premium you get the following upgrades over the base: -17” wheels to 18” wheels -Inverted struts -Larger Apple CarPlay head unit -Heated Seats/mirrors/windshield wipers -fog lights -moonroof The performance package removes the moonroof and adds the Brembos and Recaros.
I changed my brake pads on my 2018 Outback Premium after 35,000 after couple trips through the mountains. Due cheap stock pads. I could tell the difference. No big deal and easy to change.
@@lowlifeangler True, not really talking about the pads it the whole Brembo package with the extra callipers front and rear which i was referred too...mine pulls up on a dime and comes to its own in the wet.
So, it’s a bit late. I’ve owned it for the past 2 years. It’s great. The seats are fantastic, the breaks are awesome, I’ve tried a 2022, they suck by comparison. It’s a great package, I’ve tracked the car 7 days since I’ve owned it. Only needed 1 set of oem break pads. If you can find a low mileage model I would highly recommend it.
@@kcspeed9980did you ever upgrade the brakes from stock? I heard they don't really need them from the performance package but I do like the look, it almost completes it for the WRX.
@@codezalo5773 yeah, so I have a performance pack with the brembos. Honestly you could just get a set of hawk or other performance pads and get similar performance. Also a rotor upgrade is necessary. However the brembo kit gives you more options for performance pads and the factory rotors are fantastic. I tracked my car for 2 years and besides changing pads 3 times I’ve never had a breaking issue, same rotors. The car has 40k miles. I knew while searching for a car I wanted something that could handle track days without costing an arm and a leg. It’s been a great daily/track car.
Test drive 'em both! I've owned 2 wrxs in the past. Before I picked up my veloster N, I test drove a 2018 wrx, 2016 sti and a 2016 VW R. I drove a Fiesta ST before the N.
Great review, DJ. Useful. Also 6'2"+ so it's nice to have a guy my height doing these reviews versus the shrimps(sorry shrimps) that are normally on YT.
The 2015-2017s had several TSBs and recalls that were fixed for 2018+. Check out SubiSpeed's TSB and recall section on their website where they list PDFs. Android Auto and Apple Carplay with a new head unit is also a big deal.
abady Go on my 19’ wrx base (cvt) daily driving mixed city/highway I’m averaging about 18.5-19 mpg, it’s the same mpg i’m getting on my 4runner.... so this sedan is hungry for gas.. oh don’t forget it’s required to fill up with premium gas...
chase klassen how’s your driving? Once the green light hits, do you step on the gas and race the grandpas and grandmas beside/behind you? Only to hit the next red stop light 1 block away?
I have a 2019 WRX premium. I am getting the 2021 WRX Limited when it comes out, can anyone tell me if you can get the "performance package" with the limited? On subaru website for building the car, you can only select the premium for the performance package.. im wanting the Recaro and brembo on the limited though. Wondering if anyone knows, if I'd be able to do that when it comes out.
The performance package has only ever been available on the premium models (its dumb) the exception was the “Series white” last year which was basically a limited with a performance package. So your only real bet is going to be to pick up whatever limited edition they offer. If you have a 2019 I would honestly just wait for the next gen which will likely be out at some point next year. I think it will be a very significant improvement.
@@DJWolf yeah the whole on the premium thing is dumb, I think it should he on the limited if anything... Also i definitely plan on waiting until the new one comes out. I am not gonna wait for the sti because that is rumored to be a whole year away from the WRX lol... im really hoping if ANYTHING for the new version, that it has the brembo break for the limited at least. I don't care for the Recaro I just want the brembos...
@@jay_normilehey I was wondering what you ended up going with? If I can find a limited now a couple years later, it makes sense to just upgrade brakes n iunno bout the recaros unfortunately, but it does seem the WRXs are being taxed since the new Gen hasn't been received too well. That's here in California tho.
I have owned several STIs as well as several WRXs (this is actually my 3rd WRX of this generation). They both have their pros and cons. The FA20 in the WRX is way easier and cheaper to make power with. Generally speaking when you start modifying them, mod for mod, the WRX will be faster. The FA20 gets significantly better fuel economy. The STI has a better feeling transmission and also the DCCD (driver controlled center differential). The STI obviously has the iconic rumble but the engine architecture is esentially a 20 year old design at this point with minor upgrade since it was introduced. Just depends on what someone values, this generation is not like the older versions where the STI was simply better.
As my buddy’s STI awaits a new short block at less than 35k on a stock setup, I’m not sold on the EJ. My 2016 FA20 has been e85 tuned since it had 10k on it...now has 130k. It made 339whp. It gets driven heavily, year-round (obviously with the miles). I change plugs and oil regularly, and at 123k I changed the clutch. I may be biased, but I’m not sold on the EJ. The fact the FA is chain driven was a high selling point for me.
Existential I have to disagree, I too own a 2015 with full bolts and a full e85 tune making 387hp and over 350 torque and walk Sti’s with the same amount of work done. The unreliability that comes with the 2015-2017 sti isn’t worth the added upgrades in brakes and transmission to warrant the price tag it demands, however neither car does anything exceptional or has luxury components that puts it in the 32grand and up category
@@markwetty2269 The manual transmission could be a make or break deal though. Because manual is more rare yet most people don't wanna drive a manual anymore. So that value is up in the air. For reference i have an '18 wrx. But i leased it. I give it back next summer. Honestly it's not a good car. And a stinger gt is in my top 3 list of what to get next. Stinger 2.0t 4cyl is still probably a better car than the wrx. Too much tech and luxury, same performance.
@@theguy1224 sounds like I made the right choice. I bought a 35th anniversary GLI instead of the WRX and it's been working flawlessly so far. Over 300WHP with just a DP and a piggyback tune too.
Agreed. I kick myself in the ass everyday for leasing this fucking car. Worst car ever. I had a 5th gen camaro and that was better, even with the shitty visibility. The build quality on the camaro was better, brakes held up, faster, looks cooler. The subaru i got because i thought i wanted a fun stick car again. I was wrong. The gearing sucks, the throttle mapping IS THE WORST, the interior rattles and vibrates like it's a 1995 car, the engine makes weird noises. Like what the fuck happened to subaru? It's 2020 and these cars are built like it's the 90s. I can't wait to give this car back.
@@dlg5485 Subaru is definitely not about to go bankrupt. But they are becoming like Nissan's Infiniti lines. Alot of disappointment on their sport car range than excitement.
Tell u a story , my legacy gt turbo 2.5 had 3 engine rebuilds, 2 turbos, 2 clutches that stunk, 6 oil return lines break, intercooler cracked, cat converter got clogged, wiper motor failed, stupid engine light wont let u put in S mode, the worst oem brakes, rotors replaced 5 times, lca bushing replaced 3 times , MAF replaced $300, some oil solenoid in back of engine got clogged, boost leak from cracked hose, radiator cracked. This was all in 2 years and engine was stock. Only rims and BC coils and AVO suspension mods. Subaru was the biggest piece of shit car ever owned. Got a flat , oh replace all 4 tires or bye differentials. Oh mpg was 15 city 25 hwy. Out of all cars Subaru was the worse. I went so many times to the dealer, I had become friends with mechanic and he rebuilt engine for free since he felt bad for me. 61000miles engine burned 5 quart in 3000 miles, , thank god I had the best warranty if not I would of been broke. I took car always in for early oil changes , always used subaru oil filters, it not they void your warranty. All maintenance done on time and car still had issues. Never again, no sti , no wrx, no brz, no subaru ever for me.
It’s a shame start up and rev The nuts off a Subaru with only 191 miles and then pulls out and runs it clear to red line in first gear guess the Subaru isn’t getting a proper break in I just hope when the Motor grenades in 10,000 miles he doesn’t blame the Subaru or if this is a dealership car he has out to review I would steer clear of it
This is our testing and development car for SubieBros. It's already been taken apart and tuned with only 500 miles on it, not worried about warranty here but in the 3 WRXs we have had we have never had a single item brake and that's through a lot of testing and abuse.
That’s some information that would’ve been nice to know I’m just sick and tired of seeing kids post on TH-cam about their sick WRXs revving the nuts off them and such blow off valves with no tunes and blowing the motors and blaming Subaru I’ve had my Wrx for seven years is a 2010 And have literally done everything motor out build motor and tranny out build tranny in full suspension and full bolt on with the exception of the E85 I’ve taken my time hence the long ownership to make sure I’ve done everything right so it strikes a nerve every time I see someone on TH-cam cutting corners and then gets mad when I post comments on their videos unlike you who seems to be knowledgeable now that I have a little more background
339whp here on my 2016 wrx on an e85 blend tune, just rolled 130k miles. It gets driven a lot. I change plugs and oil regularly, and I recently changed my clutch at 123k. Meanwhile, my buddy’s STI hasn’t hit 35k and was stock and he’s awaiting a new short block 🤷♂️. Anecdotal? Perhaps, but I certainly didn’t expect the FA to hold up this long and now my buddy is wishing he’d picked up an FA instead.
I got my WR blue 2020 WRX premium w/performance package 3 days ago. I’m glad I got this instead of the STI. The 7k price difference alone makes this car worth it
I got the same one yesterday homie congrats
Congrats!! But let’s be real one could get an STi for 36 making it only 2k less for this WRX PP
Just bought mine today. What gas do you use?
Comprehensive review, Doug DeMuro would be proud, nice work.
I wish the Performance Package would have received the LED headlights. All it needs otherwise is a rear LSD and the current STI offers little advantage. Of course you could always do STI drivetrain swap :)
I recently upgraded from a '16 WRX to a '19 STI w/ the Recaro package. I do miss how the FA responded to flex fuel. It was certainly faster than my STI and managed better gas mileage on E50 than I do on 91 in the STI.. But the STI certainly offers a more tactile, mechanical driving experience that the WRX can't match. Getting the STI for below invoice (over $4k under MSRP) certainly helped the decision. The WRX w/ Performance Package may have made my decision harder if it would have been available at the time. The Recaros and Brembos are a great combo for ~$2,800.
You actually hit all the right details in this review. Thanks for the light comparison super helpful!
Great job on the review. Seriously. Very thorough and well thought out. Best one on youtube.
@@ScottBeauchene35 do you still like it? I’ve kicked around buying one several times and haven’t ever bit the bullet.
Just bought a 2020 WRX sport premium 6pd in red! Get it later this week
Congrats!
I wish my 18 had brembos 😭
feel that with my 19... theyll be availible in a few months tho
throw some on there.
@Al Castill very true my 17 stops just fine
Agreed
@Al Castill True but youll def get your moneys worth it if you track it here and there, which to me is worth!
My 2020 is on order. Also has the performance package. 😬
Congrats! Your going to love it!
Yeah, how was pricing if you don't mind me asking?
BlueWRX how much I’m planning on getting
How much??
Probably around 32k
I wish I'd waited 2 years and got the brembos and recaros :P Such an amazing year for this car righty here!!!!
The new color looks great i honeslty like it more than previous one 👌
Looks very nice! I got my 2019 Sti about 8 months ago. LOVE the thing!
Does it comes in automatic transmission
@@musicclassroom6221 no and hopefully never will
Test drove the 2020 performance package in the exact same color . Liked the car but the Dealer wanted 35k for it. Ended up getting the 2020 sti with short shifter package for 38k. For just a couple more grand the sti won me over
That is way too high for this trim level. I paid $30.5k.
@@DJWolf Is that out the door? I know taxes will differ, but I got a quote for $33.5K out the door. Wondering if that's a decent price. It's the exact same car you have.
@@DJWolf or Buy a new Outback Premium 2.5 , $30 k bottom line , drive across the country , 19 gallon tank/ 500 miles range
i got my 2020 limited in magnetite grey. Really wanted those red brembos, but i would rather have the LED headlights, harmon kardon speakers, and sunroof that come on limted. Might just buy the brakes later.
@14:25, LMFAO! Was not expecting that! Seriously, what a great review
It sucks that you can’t get the brembos/performance package with the limited which doesn’t make sense because the premium doesn’t have led headlights or led daytime .
Subaru desperately needs to up their game and bring on the next gen already .
Waiting for the re-designed 2021, hopefully they don’t f it up.
Absolutely agreed!
Hopefully
2022, darn it 😭
They fucked it up for 22
Well, they fucked it up lol
Just traded in a Jaguar FPace for one of these for a winter car.
OMFG it's *almost* as fun to drive as my convertible Maserati. 😁😎
Thank you for a non STI WRX review
DAMN good video man, its a shame you don't have more subs, you're killin it
Just picked up a 2020 Premium with the sport package. Overall I'm happy with the car but for the price I just can excuse the terrible sound system. This is bottom of the barrel sound quality and it doesn't help the that road noise is so loud in the cabin. The info system could be better as well. Really Subaru you cant give a real time miles to empty gauge? The gauge will read 200 miles to empty and then the next second go down to 150. The center console arm rest is a joke as well. You actually have to buy and aftermarket extender so you can actually rest your arm on it.
.. Agree, they put zero effort into the infotainment/speaker system and heavily boosted bass levels. The rest of the car is alright, but in all actuality is nothing to write home about. As a '19 base owner, I couldn't imagine paying more than $30k for this car. The added features don't warrant the price jumps. The performance package is the way to go, but is not worth the $35k msrp.
@@K03sport I got a really good lease deal. That's the only reason I got it. No money down. Sign and drive for 385.00 a month. I was looking at the type r but to get the same payments I would had to have put down 7k. No lease on the type r. Fuck that. I'd rather have that money in the bank. Actually thank god I didn't do that. I got the wrx as the pandemic was exploding. I would have been ready of jump off the ledge if I just spent 7k and they locked down the country.
Because "race car" cry 👶
Good to hear the complaints about it as I went with a 35th anniversary GLI instead and am wondering if I would have enjoyed the WRX more instead. Sounds like I made the right choice lol
Should of got a Outback....19 gallons Over 500 miles
I agree that all the little upgrades they've made until now should've been where they started.
Just bought my 1st Subaru 4 months ago and I love it! But I want me a WRX SO BAD !
This video inspired me to get one myself :) Traded in my ‘17 Honda Civic Si for a ‘21 WRX
I'm glad I could help :) I think you will love the WRX.
Awesome review man!
Best review ever. Good shots, and straight to the point. No bs. Thanks bro!
Thank you so much! Hoping to review more cars soon!
@@DJWolf Please do! We need more reviews like this one for more makes and models..
Such a great car , that color is dope
Outstanding video! Loved all of the information you gave and how it was put together. Well done and we need more!!
Good review :D, now I know that my 2019 is pretty much the same as the 2020, except for the lack of brembo's and fancy seats lolz, which I am upgrading to a set from yellow speed *brakes and coil overs* seats as they are I think are fine, I don't plan to goto the track lol. I do plan to replace the wheels and tires, that is one thing I don't understand, why put summer specific tires on a rally inspired car ? lol
Rip, my 2020 wrb wrx Limited doesn’t come with brembos. But I guess what makes up for it is the sun roof though 👌🏽
and the factory headlights haha
Nicely shot and great intro, love that new color just wished I trusted that dit engine for long term reliability to justify purchasing this to my wife
Excellent Vid, keep it coming.
Looks sharp. I may get one in the future.
Do they have a new stock tune with crackles and pops in the exhaust now? Sounded that way in the revs and drive off.
It's always been that way but you can't really hear it from inside the car at all so most people don't realize it does it.
DJ Wolf interesting, this is the first time I hear it sound that aggressive on a stock wrx
All you need to do is pretty much floor it in 1st and clutch in around 4,500-5,500 rpms and hold the clutch in and it’ll crackles
Was very much looking to purchase a 2019 WRX until went to 3 dealerships and they all wanted $35K+ .... instead I bought a New 2018 Camaro 1SS, 8-speed Auto .... $32k ...
automatic LMAO
Dang that's cheap. Good thing I never we to a Chevy dealer then. I'd probably have an SS 1LE in the driveway
amazing, love this car.
I would've purchased a WRX years ago if they hadn't dropped the hatchback. I don't do sedans, so they need to bring back the hatch if they want to sell me one. I hope they realize their mistake and revive it for the 2021 redesign.
@Dave C. Hatches may be niche among the normal 'grocery getter' car buying crowd, but they are beloved and preferred by most of the enthusiast car buying crowd and that is who the WRX is for.
Incidentally, I decided to by a 2020 WRX sedan after all. I hate that I had to make such a massive compromise and I'm still a little pissed about it, but rumor has it that the hatch is simply not coming back. It just made sense to me to buy one at the end of its life cycle for maximum reliability and the available knowledge base about the car, as opposed to buying the next gen that will be on an entirely new platform.
Hey that's my car!
Back in 2006 and 2007 WRX had some sort of mini brembo 4 piston front and 2 piston back and affordable. I have a 2006 WRX TR Wich is the basic model. Why don't they bring the TR back with out making everything so expensive is almost the same price as a STI.
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Subaru needs to make a performance premium version geared towards older people who love the performance but wouldn’t mind some sound deafening, upgraded stereo, heated seats, etc. I guess the new version might address these issues.
This is why all cars are blobbed corollas nowadays. Just buy an Audi s4 and you have all the comfort you want. The WRX should be a raw, driver focused car. Btw I am not too young myself.
@@StrongerThenYOU1923 I don’t see why both versions aren’t possible. It’s two different market segments.
@@RossLambert801 I am not into automative but any product needs product development, testing etc.That comes with huge costs. Plus if they go premium they directly compete with the big boys Vw group,
Bmw, Daimler an so on. Given that Subaru is not a big manufacturer I am not betting my money on their car. Just my 2 cents.
@@StrongerThenYOU1923 If mazda, honda, hyundai, etc can all make various models of their cars I don’t see why Subaru can’t do the same. Have a base model, a semi luxury model, and a race model.
Good review, got it big guys in front, and little guys in the back. LOL, nice car. I wonder what type of radio system it has and the sound quality? I know over the years Subies are known for having awful radio system quality. Again good job.
if you notice the distance From the tip of the front bumper into front tire is too long thats i dont like for wrx and StI
But the GTI and the Bmw is very close to the front bumper
15 mpg city , 25 hwy. Only premium. Got a flat , 4 new tires or bye bye differentials, no more Subaru for me
Yeah but with all those upgrades and the MSRP, you might as well just get the STI
Great review
I rather exspechelly this on over any other one, or world rally blue? I don't know, maybe just DGM
Subaru is doing good things
Meh. They’re working on it that’s for sure but the prices are still very high for not enough performance and durability.
Buy a Honda, and drive those pieces of junk of the lot
Great review!
Very informative. A thumbs up from me. 🧐
The only thing good about the “performance package” is literally only the brakes, I just picked up a 2020 wrx BASE with a sti short throw shifter, it also doesnt have a sunroof which loses about 300 lbs, and I can care less about the rims since no one keeps them stock lol. Ps dont rev it past 4k rpm until 1k miles
The base is a great value, but you do get a lot of extra options going from base to premium like:
Heated Seats, Heated windshield wipers, inverted struts, auto on/off headlights, larger 7" headunit, fog lights.
You can also save some money if you're planning on getting aftermarket wheels because you can swap these 18" tires to your new wheels instead of buying all new tires.
And with the performance package the recaro's has substantially nicer material as well.
This particular car has been pretty much taken apart and protuned before 500 miles, lol
Can’t wait for the 2021 remodel.. does anyone know around what time it’s revealed ?
It's most likely going to be either a late 2021 model or even a 2022 model because we haven't seen any test mules, spy shots, etc. So it will likely be announced next year time time at the earliest.
@@DJWolf plus you never want the first year of a new model think 2023
@@jameskocks4734 this guy gets it. By that time my current car will be paid off and I can get the new STi. If it looks good.
That's looks like a 2019 Base with brembos. I say it looks like a base because the rims, clear head lights, fog/signal lights, no sunroof and no lights on mirrors.
They do look similar, with the premium you get the following upgrades over the base:
-17” wheels to 18” wheels
-Inverted struts
-Larger Apple CarPlay head unit
-Heated Seats/mirrors/windshield wipers
-fog lights
-moonroof
The performance package removes the moonroof and adds the Brembos and Recaros.
Great detail here man thanks👍
I really hope the new 2021 WRX and STi are worth it
Wow nice car
I bought the premium...doesn't have Brembo brakes, doesn't really need them either...
I changed my brake pads on my 2018 Outback Premium after 35,000 after couple trips through the mountains. Due cheap stock pads. I could tell the difference. No big deal and easy to change.
@@lowlifeangler True, not really talking about the pads it the whole Brembo package with the extra callipers front and rear which i was referred too...mine pulls up on a dime and comes to its own in the wet.
Is there any thigh support you know of that these seats give?
great review!!! I'm looking into buying a wrx and this is the best review I've seen on youtube thus far. THUMBS UUUUP!!!
Best review
Just got one today!!!!!!!!
How you like it ? thinking about buying one ? is it really 34k ?
So, it’s a bit late. I’ve owned it for the past 2 years. It’s great. The seats are fantastic, the breaks are awesome, I’ve tried a 2022, they suck by comparison. It’s a great package, I’ve tracked the car 7 days since I’ve owned it. Only needed 1 set of oem break pads. If you can find a low mileage model I would highly recommend it.
@@kcspeed9980did you ever upgrade the brakes from stock? I heard they don't really need them from the performance package but I do like the look, it almost completes it for the WRX.
@@codezalo5773 yeah, so I have a performance pack with the brembos. Honestly you could just get a set of hawk or other performance pads and get similar performance. Also a rotor upgrade is necessary. However the brembo kit gives you more options for performance pads and the factory rotors are fantastic. I tracked my car for 2 years and besides changing pads 3 times I’ve never had a breaking issue, same rotors. The car has 40k miles. I knew while searching for a car I wanted something that could handle track days without costing an arm and a leg. It’s been a great daily/track car.
Any problems with the car?
I’m really having a hard time deciding if I should get a wrx or a veloster n!
AZO Peyton which one them would you buy used if you had to? That should answer your question
Test drive 'em both! I've owned 2 wrxs in the past. Before I picked up my veloster N, I test drove a 2018 wrx, 2016 sti and a 2016 VW R. I drove a Fiesta ST before the N.
Surely, if tall seat behind the passenger seat instead of driver's
If you have to haul passengers....buy a Outback or Ascent
why brake is red？ do I need to buy it?
Great review, DJ. Useful. Also 6'2"+ so it's nice to have a guy my height doing these reviews versus the shrimps(sorry shrimps) that are normally on YT.
Same engine, transmission, turbo, and everything else from 2015 and up why pay more?
The 2015-2017s had several TSBs and recalls that were fixed for 2018+. Check out SubiSpeed's TSB and recall section on their website where they list PDFs.
Android Auto and Apple Carplay with a new head unit is also a big deal.
I just put in for a quote on OTD price for the premium model, should I expect a discount on the MSRP? Thanks
jim carson absolutely. The pricing varies by location but 5-10% off MSRP should be pretty easy to get if you shop around.
@@DJWolf So they are taking about 3k off for a premium with the performance package. So 31.6 now.
Very handsome car 🚗
You might as well just buy a 2016-17 STI for that kinda money
Climate control is limited to just the cabin not temperature, it’s not a dual climate control
My 15 stock exhaust doesnt pop and crack , is this exhaust different?
I can’t decide if I want to get this or an Sti (as a daily driver) someone help
If you don't mind living at the gas station the STI. If you do mind. . . Neither
@@interceptingfist5682 do you know whats the fuel economy?
abady Go on my 19’ wrx base (cvt) daily driving mixed city/highway I’m averaging about 18.5-19 mpg, it’s the same mpg i’m getting on my 4runner.... so this sedan is hungry for gas.. oh don’t forget it’s required to fill up with premium gas...
Lol I get 18mpg in my 2019 STI this guy saying 18-19bin wrx is on crack... and I owned a 2018 wrx before the STI so yes I know.
chase klassen how’s your driving? Once the green light hits, do you step on the gas and race the grandpas and grandmas beside/behind you? Only to hit the next red stop light 1 block away?
Thats my car right there :P n i fuckin love the car
What kind of speakers ??
2nd LT cuz wrx speakers are shit im wondering if they tried improving them
Would it be worth it to get a CVt
I have a 2019 WRX premium. I am getting the 2021 WRX Limited when it comes out, can anyone tell me if you can get the "performance package" with the limited? On subaru website for building the car, you can only select the premium for the performance package.. im wanting the Recaro and brembo on the limited though. Wondering if anyone knows, if I'd be able to do that when it comes out.
The performance package has only ever been available on the premium models (its dumb) the exception was the “Series white” last year which was basically a limited with a performance package. So your only real bet is going to be to pick up whatever limited edition they offer.
If you have a 2019 I would honestly just wait for the next gen which will likely be out at some point next year. I think it will be a very significant improvement.
@@DJWolf yeah the whole on the premium thing is dumb, I think it should he on the limited if anything...
Also i definitely plan on waiting until the new one comes out. I am not gonna wait for the sti because that is rumored to be a whole year away from the WRX lol... im really hoping if ANYTHING for the new version, that it has the brembo break for the limited at least. I don't care for the Recaro I just want the brembos...
@@jay_normilehey I was wondering what you ended up going with? If I can find a limited now a couple years later, it makes sense to just upgrade brakes n iunno bout the recaros unfortunately, but it does seem the WRXs are being taxed since the new Gen hasn't been received too well. That's here in California tho.
@@codezalo5773 oh I ended up getting the limited WRX STI 😂
I want the intro song plz plz say bro plz
what's the name of this song? 0:40
Would this be worth trading a MK7 GTI.in for it?
At this point I would wait for the full refresh if you already have a GTI. It’s due as a 2021 or 2022 at the absolute latest
traded on my 18 mk7.5 gti for this exact car yesterday, go for it
I wish I could have this!!! 😏 I don’t want a 400 car note😑
I just picked one up , my car note is 478 😞not too bad tho my wife’s suv costs me 700 a month.
every person in a wrx wishes they bought a sti
I have owned several STIs as well as several WRXs (this is actually my 3rd WRX of this generation). They both have their pros and cons. The FA20 in the WRX is way easier and cheaper to make power with. Generally speaking when you start modifying them, mod for mod, the WRX will be faster. The FA20 gets significantly better fuel economy. The STI has a better feeling transmission and also the DCCD (driver controlled center differential). The STI obviously has the iconic rumble but the engine architecture is esentially a 20 year old design at this point with minor upgrade since it was introduced. Just depends on what someone values, this generation is not like the older versions where the STI was simply better.
Driving impressions …….
It was introduced in 2013, not 2015.
Im sorry if i offend any wrx owners in advance but getting 1 instead of an sti is the equivalent of getting a v6 challenger or hellcat
Stock for stock, the STI is better, as soon as you start modding the WRX is significantly cheaper to mod and faster up to about 400whp.
As my buddy’s STI awaits a new short block at less than 35k on a stock setup, I’m not sold on the EJ.
My 2016 FA20 has been e85 tuned since it had 10k on it...now has 130k. It made 339whp. It gets driven heavily, year-round (obviously with the miles). I change plugs and oil regularly, and at 123k I changed the clutch. I may be biased, but I’m not sold on the EJ. The fact the FA is chain driven was a high selling point for me.
Existential I have to disagree, I too own a 2015 with full bolts and a full e85 tune making 387hp and over 350 torque and walk Sti’s with the same amount of work done. The unreliability that comes with the 2015-2017 sti isn’t worth the added upgrades in brakes and transmission to warrant the price tag it demands, however neither car does anything exceptional or has luxury components that puts it in the 32grand and up category
DJ Wolf still just a wrx....👎. Don’t live I. Denial of the fact you would get a STI over it if budget wasn’t a thing
@@carlotlife5013 Budget is always a thing.
I just bought a brand new Kia Stinger GT for $32k . That's a better value.
Stinger may not hold its value as well as the WRX, but that won't matter unless you sell it.
@@markwetty2269 The manual transmission could be a make or break deal though. Because manual is more rare yet most people don't wanna drive a manual anymore. So that value is up in the air. For reference i have an '18 wrx. But i leased it. I give it back next summer. Honestly it's not a good car. And a stinger gt is in my top 3 list of what to get next. Stinger 2.0t 4cyl is still probably a better car than the wrx. Too much tech and luxury, same performance.
@@theguy1224 sounds like I made the right choice. I bought a 35th anniversary GLI instead of the WRX and it's been working flawlessly so far. Over 300WHP with just a DP and a piggyback tune too.
damn same car 19 years... no wonder Subaru about to bankrupt
Agreed. I kick myself in the ass everyday for leasing this fucking car. Worst car ever. I had a 5th gen camaro and that was better, even with the shitty visibility. The build quality on the camaro was better, brakes held up, faster, looks cooler. The subaru i got because i thought i wanted a fun stick car again. I was wrong. The gearing sucks, the throttle mapping IS THE WORST, the interior rattles and vibrates like it's a 1995 car, the engine makes weird noises. Like what the fuck happened to subaru? It's 2020 and these cars are built like it's the 90s. I can't wait to give this car back.
You're making shit up. Subaru is a subdivision of Fuji Heavy Industries, one of Japan's wealthiest companies.
@@dlg5485 Subaru is definitely not about to go bankrupt. But they are becoming like Nissan's Infiniti lines. Alot of disappointment on their sport car range than excitement.
Tell u a story , my legacy gt turbo 2.5 had 3 engine rebuilds, 2 turbos, 2 clutches that stunk, 6 oil return lines break, intercooler cracked, cat converter got clogged, wiper motor failed, stupid engine light wont let u put in S mode, the worst oem brakes, rotors replaced 5 times, lca bushing replaced 3 times , MAF replaced $300, some oil solenoid in back of engine got clogged, boost leak from cracked hose, radiator cracked. This was all in 2 years and engine was stock. Only rims and BC coils and AVO suspension mods. Subaru was the biggest piece of shit car ever owned. Got a flat , oh replace all 4 tires or bye differentials. Oh mpg was 15 city 25 hwy. Out of all cars Subaru was the worse. I went so many times to the dealer, I had become friends with mechanic and he rebuilt engine for free since he felt bad for me. 61000miles engine burned 5 quart in 3000 miles, , thank god I had the best warranty if not I would of been broke. I took car always in for early oil changes , always used subaru oil filters, it not they void your warranty. All maintenance done on time and car still had issues. Never again, no sti , no wrx, no brz, no subaru ever for me.
Dang lol
@thesubieplug on instagram
Music is agony had to stop watching
It’s a shame start up and rev The nuts off a Subaru with only 191 miles and then pulls out and runs it clear to red line in first gear guess the Subaru isn’t getting a proper break in I just hope when the Motor grenades in 10,000 miles he doesn’t blame the Subaru or if this is a dealership car he has out to review I would steer clear of it
This is our testing and development car for SubieBros. It's already been taken apart and tuned with only 500 miles on it, not worried about warranty here but in the 3 WRXs we have had we have never had a single item brake and that's through a lot of testing and abuse.
That’s some information that would’ve been nice to know I’m just sick and tired of seeing kids post on TH-cam about their sick WRXs revving the nuts off them and such blow off valves with no tunes and blowing the motors and blaming Subaru I’ve had my Wrx for seven years is a 2010 And have literally done everything motor out build motor and tranny out build tranny in full suspension and full bolt on with the exception of the E85 I’ve taken my time hence the long ownership to make sure I’ve done everything right so it strikes a nerve every time I see someone on TH-cam cutting corners and then gets mad when I post comments on their videos unlike you who seems to be knowledgeable now that I have a little more background
Old and slow
Di ur reseach this motor is extremely unreliable jd power
The FA20 is very reliable up to about 350 whp/wtq. I did do my research, I design parts for them and work on them nearly every day ;)
339whp here on my 2016 wrx on an e85 blend tune, just rolled 130k miles. It gets driven a lot. I change plugs and oil regularly, and I recently changed my clutch at 123k.
Meanwhile, my buddy’s STI hasn’t hit 35k and was stock and he’s awaiting a new short block 🤷♂️. Anecdotal? Perhaps, but I certainly didn’t expect the FA to hold up this long and now my buddy is wishing he’d picked up an FA instead.
@@codydakota95 Lol an sti owner wishing he had a wrx... thats a fucking lie. period lmao
Slow car