@@Kuba_K exactly. The game I'm playing now I got the IV Oddessy, and I covered it in burst pd. 0.6 Flux per damage. The cryosleeper guardian didn't stand a chance... snuck behind him and ripped his engine out with those suckers. I don't even waste my time with shields against trash fleets or remnants, just plow into them with the plasma jets and watch the lightshow.
@@bigbrainenergyguy tried it, ai just misses half of shots, and it attacks missiles and fighters, still can take out simulation aurora and 2 enforcers reliably though
Ove to see if this build can still be made viable in the current build. The s-mod penalty seems to hurt a bit but then again: you don't necessarily have worry too much about the DPS on Proximity Launchers as it is.
PCLs are comparable to heavy blasters because they have the same fire rate and base damage (albeit a different damage type, but still 2 heavy blasters worth of shield dps) not to mention they delete fighter wings faster than omen spam edit: forgot that the missile skill increases fire rate and damage so they can be even better
Proximity Charge is anti everything in its blast radius. [Redacted] Bomber use it as anti-ship weapon It is quite slow so you wouldn't get best result with 1 or 2 launchers, you need something like this, 4 med missile slots, to properly use it.
I quite like the build. I myself havent played much with the charge launcher but doesnt ECCM package also affect the bombs? wouldnt that be a good mod for it?
Seems odd... maybe a little unbalanced. An anti-fighter missile doing that much damage to any ship class Frigate and up? I would never have even considered this.
@@Kuba_K But the damage should be proportional to the weapon type. It's like using hand grenades on a tank vs an RPG. I guess this is true of all point defense weapons in this game. They all have this problem. Makes me wonder if they will be better balanced in future patches.
@@randallporter1404 nah it still would be strong against fighters, missiles and hull while being weak against shields and especially armor since now it just melts ships when they overload, maybe ammo cap could be increased even
It's likely intentional, it used to be just anti fighter mines, but last patch significantly buffed mines speed and health with notes suggesting it's meant to be offensive oriented
You can just put Burst Pd to deal with with those pesky Frigate and fighters. Drop automated repair as you get elite skill for repair and drop cap by 4. You get powerful close range burst damage to deal with anything.
nah, prox charges will deal with them fine, i need automated repair unit, because as soon as you lose engines/weapons it is really easy to get encircled, so for solo fight it is important
Is that a Kingfisher in your fleet? I'm surprised you're choosing a Falcon over it as your flagship, the Kingfisher can fill a similar fleet role (fast and aggressive close-combat cruiser) but it doesn't die instantly from overextending. The one thing I hate about the Kingfisher is where the missile mounts are. Though side-mounted autofiring reapers actually are viable if you like flying into the middle of enemy formations.
Ai handles that one neatly, especially with tachyon lance and needlers combo. I would argue Falcon is a little tankier cause firepower doesnt depend on flux level.
@@Kuba_K haha maybe better that way to dangerous they might randomly kill me again....swear to ludd the AI is makimg me loose it sometimes xD So far i trust them with Eradicators (those things are flying Nokia Phones i swear)
Very considerate of those remnants to fight you one on one, instead of coordinating like they usually do.
200 speed cruiser is like frigate, really easy to kite everything when you move 2x the speed of enemy
Too bad you can't teach the AI to do that. They will just run away the moment they take a shield hit.
Agressive officers are, well more agressive problem is ai uses prox charges as pd weapon and doesnt spam them enough
@@Kuba_K exactly. The game I'm playing now I got the IV Oddessy, and I covered it in burst pd. 0.6 Flux per damage. The cryosleeper guardian didn't stand a chance... snuck behind him and ripped his engine out with those suckers. I don't even waste my time with shields against trash fleets or remnants, just plow into them with the plasma jets and watch the lightshow.
@@Kuba_K You could try giving it an irpulse laser and linking it to the pdcs.
@@bigbrainenergyguy tried it, ai just misses half of shots, and it attacks missiles and fighters, still can take out simulation aurora and 2 enforcers reliably though
@@Kuba_K
Use Advanced Gunnery Control to disable target fighter and missile.
Never realized the power of the proximity charge launcher.
Thats why I love starsector community in youtube. They give you the wildest idea
It is a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
Ah, good ol' Falcon(P), a legendary ship with quite the history.
I just tried a botched up build like this and solo killed a paragon. I guess this is S tier
I never noticed this weapon (Proximity Charge Launcher). Pretty cool that you demonstrated how powerful it is.
Same here, though i ought to know better because i do use AI bombers armed with proxy charge launchers.
Ove to see if this build can still be made viable in the current build.
The s-mod penalty seems to hurt a bit but then again: you don't necessarily have worry too much about the DPS on Proximity Launchers as it is.
It should work fine
The new missile reloader is super powerful on this ship. Since it is a cruser wit only 2 small missile slots.
Nice collection of prisoners you've got there. I too like to keep my enemies closer. I give them a front-row seat with a window during every fight.
PCLs are comparable to heavy blasters because they have the same fire rate and base damage (albeit a different damage type, but still 2 heavy blasters worth of shield dps) not to mention they delete fighter wings faster than omen spam
edit: forgot that the missile skill increases fire rate and damage so they can be even better
Yup they are insanely good suppresion weapon, this and typhoon outshine all other medium missiles. (Maybe except sabot pod)
It looks like pizza
Very dangerous pizza
At least it's not a dorrito...
The red stain isn't ketchup :)
Here i was thinking proximity charge launcher was garbage. Is all of this vanilla?
My game is modded, but nothing that changes weapon properties, this build is vanilla
Proximity Charge is anti everything in its blast radius. [Redacted] Bomber use it as anti-ship weapon
It is quite slow so you wouldn't get best result with 1 or 2 launchers, you need something like this, 4 med missile slots, to properly use it.
I quite like the build. I myself havent played much with the charge launcher but doesnt ECCM package also affect the bombs? wouldnt that be a good mod for it?
Probably, try it out
@@Kuba_K Actually tried and the ECCM package makes the bombs fly less and explode much sooner. Kinda contradicts what is written in its description.
@@archangel8172 well thats strange
That s illegal, I like it
God i miss the old PCL already
Seems odd... maybe a little unbalanced. An anti-fighter missile doing that much damage to any ship class Frigate and up? I would never have even considered this.
It should deal fragmentation damage honestly
@@Kuba_K But the damage should be proportional to the weapon type. It's like using hand grenades on a tank vs an RPG.
I guess this is true of all point defense weapons in this game. They all have this problem. Makes me wonder if they will be better balanced in future patches.
@@randallporter1404 nah it still would be strong against fighters, missiles and hull while being weak against shields and especially armor since now it just melts ships when they overload, maybe ammo cap could be increased even
It's likely intentional, it used to be just anti fighter mines, but last patch significantly buffed mines speed and health with notes suggesting it's meant to be offensive oriented
Did...did you just turn a Falcon into a Monitor?!
nah too much firepower
You can just put Burst Pd to deal with with those pesky Frigate and fighters.
Drop automated repair as you get elite skill for repair and drop cap by 4.
You get powerful close range burst damage to deal with anything.
nah, prox charges will deal with them fine, i need automated repair unit, because as soon as you lose engines/weapons it is really easy to get encircled, so for solo fight it is important
Is that a Kingfisher in your fleet? I'm surprised you're choosing a Falcon over it as your flagship, the Kingfisher can fill a similar fleet role (fast and aggressive close-combat cruiser) but it doesn't die instantly from overextending.
The one thing I hate about the Kingfisher is where the missile mounts are. Though side-mounted autofiring reapers actually are viable if you like flying into the middle of enemy formations.
Ai handles that one neatly, especially with tachyon lance and needlers combo. I would argue Falcon is a little tankier cause firepower doesnt depend on flux level.
Impressive, is the AI capable of using this?
not really
@@Kuba_K haha maybe better that way to dangerous they might randomly kill me again....swear to ludd the AI is makimg me loose it sometimes xD
So far i trust them with Eradicators
(those things are flying Nokia Phones i swear)
pirate falcon is such a fun ship lol
the fuck? i never thought proximal charges have this big damage since the bomber one is kinda trashed
bretty gud mane
Good thing you didn't use eccm, it actually make mines slower for some buggy reason
Gotta love the improvise ships sometimes from other faction, there just something special about them.
Bricked up
wait, you were at only -46 with remnants before this battle?
Nexerelin magic