My 2xgreat grandmother's cousin Fabean Desrosiers from Philipsburg Quebec, fought and died in the Civil War. He listed his residence as Burlington, Vt. Unit(s): 5th VT INF Service: enl 9/9/62, m/i 9/15/62, Pvt, Co. E, 5th VT INF, pr CORP, kia, Spotsylvania, 5/12/64
Yeah, this is incredibly disappointing for anyone who actually wants to know about the Vermont Brigade, as opposed to a general overview of the Army of the Potomac.
@@02091992able not true. slavery was already illegal in all of western Europe. That's why England and France would assist the Confederacy (for profit) but the governments would not officially recognize it because it was a pro slavery country and they didn't want to anger their own citizens.
@@stevewixom9311 In 1777 it was not. England and France still used slaves at that time. It wouldn't be til some time after the Napoleonic Wars that England and France did away with it. Industrialization and the switch from agriculture based economies to Industry is what caused it.
@@jaredhunnicutt42 you had one half, not one quarter and if we had Grant and Sherman from the beginning it would've taken 4 minutes. Yes, only 2% of Whites had slaves but almost all the fighting age men fought for slavery. As for the 27% of free blacks who owned slaves many were buying their family members, they weren't truly slaves.
adksherm barely twice the population. The population in the 1860’s, according to Wikipedia, was 350,000. Its 623,000 as of 2019, also according to Wikipedia. It’s nuts man.
Fyi my comment wasn't to "take away" from any American's military service, just to help illustrate the massive debt and dedication the Vermonters had during this time, and that they continue to learn from the experience today through thier continuing tradition and uncorrupted law.
Yep like Pea Ridge? Then there were Union brigades like Minty's brigade that fought outnumbered against commanders such as Forrest and Wheeler and beat them? You also ignore the inherent advantage of being on the defence in the terrain of Northern Virginia. Once Lee was forced out of that location you see what happened in the Appomattox campaign which is the most overlooked of the Eastern campaigns.
+James S not hardly...whatever happened anywhere during the war it all came down who could sustain the most casualties...Grant figured it out and Lincoln knew it....if you know anything about combat and war...the outcome was decided by who could put more men in the field...it's just the way it was...the area that sustained the most battles has no affect..the federals had more of everything...it's was basic mathematics..
@@sloanchampion85 Except the Union force at Pea Ridge could not afford to take more casualties than their opponents, Minty and Wilder could not afford to take more casualties than Forrest and Wheeler while they screened the Army of the Cumberland. Ability to take more casualties has its place, but it is not everything.
Well, yes and no. The Union had some horrible generals and some good ones, just like the Confederates. Lee was a good defensive general, especially against some really crappy generals. But in the West the Union generally outfought the rebels hands down. But in the end I guess it was a question of who could endure their losses better. Even though casualties were roughly even the rebels had no way of replacing their’s. 1863 was really bad for the South. In four major actions, Vicksburg, Chancellorsville, Gettysburg and Chickamauga Confederate losses exceeded Union, totaling over 100,000, with close to half dead or captured. This couldn’t go on long.
That high death and injury rate changed down much by 64 and 65 as Grant and Sherman progressed to a lower casualty strategy, the moral of the men under their command improved and so did the respect they had for Grant and Sherman. Grant lived with his men, he stayed in tents often when he could have picked the best mansion close by. Sherman was called Uncle Billy .......by his troops
The 11th Vermont should be cited. They were the only Union Regiment to stand its line through the Battle of Cedar Creek. Heroes every one of them.
Thats brilliant information!! Much appreciated.
My 2xgreat grandmother's cousin Fabean Desrosiers from Philipsburg Quebec, fought and died in the Civil War. He listed his residence as Burlington, Vt. Unit(s): 5th VT INF
Service: enl 9/9/62, m/i 9/15/62, Pvt, Co. E, 5th VT INF, pr CORP, kia, Spotsylvania, 5/12/64
Stannard's Vermonters were among the heroes at Gettysburg, enfilading the Rebels during Pickett's Charge.
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8:38 The reason why they fought the Civil War.
The Brigade gained its real fame at the Battle of Cedar Creek, look into it.
I wish you had started with the Vermonters, and then used their various exploits to tell the rest of the story/
i so agree, almost a 10min video and only the last 3min even mention the brigade
Yeah, this is incredibly disappointing for anyone who actually wants to know about the Vermont Brigade, as opposed to a general overview of the Army of the Potomac.
Brave little state!
You missed it. VT above all hated slavery,
Was the first nation in the world to ban the institution of slavery and was the first state whos constitution banned it.
02091992able I think Achemenid Persia banned slavery in its empire.
@@02091992able not true. slavery was already illegal in all of western Europe. That's why England and France would assist the Confederacy (for profit) but the governments would not officially recognize it because it was a pro slavery country and they didn't want to anger their own citizens.
the vast majority of all Northern troops (especially in the early years) went to war to restore the Union and no other reason.
@@stevewixom9311 In 1777 it was not. England and France still used slaves at that time. It wouldn't be til some time after the Napoleonic Wars that England and France did away with it. Industrialization and the switch from agriculture based economies to Industry is what caused it.
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thank goodness we had strong men to stand up to these invaders
It is good the Union had so many men, no Confederate Brigade could handle that kind of slaughter.
Jared Hunnicutt i agree
@@jaredhunnicutt42 you had one half, not one quarter and if we had Grant and Sherman from the beginning it would've taken 4 minutes. Yes, only 2% of Whites had slaves but almost all the fighting age men fought for slavery. As for the 27% of free blacks who owned slaves many were buying their family members, they weren't truly slaves.
Vermont's population in 1860 was 315,000.
Im gonna get mad if you keep setting those precushions off, and I learned how to make some nifty chemicals... so your choice.
Meaning great differents.
thank god we had strong loyal men to defend the union against those traitorous secessionist
You watch that traitorous lip senor palace.'Er you a Hispanic?
Rpl, who were traitorous secessionists?
Tennessee sent almost just as many men to fight for the Union as Vermont did.
Vermont isn't very big
Vermont is probably a third the size. Thier population To THIS DAY hasn't recovered....
adksherm barely twice the population. The population in the 1860’s, according to Wikipedia, was 350,000. Its 623,000 as of 2019, also according to Wikipedia. It’s nuts man.
@@adksherm i think it has it's just alot of them just moved to Fla and Az where it's warmer
Fyi my comment wasn't to "take away" from any American's military service, just to help illustrate the massive debt and dedication the Vermonters had during this time, and that they continue to learn from the experience today through thier continuing tradition and uncorrupted law.
On April 2nd 1864 they destroyed the confederate army
So not only was I born in Vermont but they won on my birthday
Sharpshooters from Vermont and Kentucky respected and feared each other. Witch is Ironic cause now Vermont sends it's prisoners to Kentucky.
So, what exactly does that have to do with this?
No idea lol.
Union generals ability was an absolute second thought...it was nothing more than overwhelming numbers and the ability to take more casualties
Yep like Pea Ridge? Then there were Union brigades like Minty's brigade that fought outnumbered against commanders such as Forrest and Wheeler and beat them? You also ignore the inherent advantage of being on the defence in the terrain of Northern Virginia. Once Lee was forced out of that location you see what happened in the Appomattox campaign which is the most overlooked of the Eastern campaigns.
+James S not hardly...whatever happened anywhere during the war it all came down who could sustain the most casualties...Grant figured it out and Lincoln knew it....if you know anything about combat and war...the outcome was decided by who could put more men in the field...it's just the way it was...the area that sustained the most battles has no affect..the federals had more of everything...it's was basic mathematics..
@@sloanchampion85
Except the Union force at Pea Ridge could not afford to take more casualties than their opponents, Minty and Wilder could not afford to take more casualties than Forrest and Wheeler while they screened the Army of the Cumberland. Ability to take more casualties has its place, but it is not everything.
Well, yes and no. The Union had some horrible generals and some good ones, just like the Confederates. Lee was a good defensive general, especially against some really crappy generals. But in the West the Union generally outfought the rebels hands down. But in the end I guess it was a question of who could endure their losses better. Even though casualties were roughly even the rebels had no way of replacing their’s. 1863 was really bad for the South. In four major actions, Vicksburg, Chancellorsville, Gettysburg and Chickamauga Confederate losses exceeded Union, totaling over 100,000, with close to half dead or captured. This couldn’t go on long.
That high death and injury rate changed down much by 64 and 65 as Grant and Sherman progressed to a lower casualty strategy, the moral of the men under their command improved and so did the respect they had for Grant and Sherman. Grant lived with his men, he stayed in tents often when he could have picked the best mansion close by. Sherman was called Uncle Billy .......by his troops