You dont become a fortune teller, when you say 'smoking gives one cancer'. He made predictions on the basis of his foresightedness. He made predictions about armed rebellions in India as well...but he was of the opinion that secular India will be able to absorb all of that much easily than a theocratic Pakistan.
The creation of Beng has to do with two-nation-theory-being-shredded-to-pieces, and thus we very well CAN QUESTION wisdom of Muslim League. I dint get your last sentence (pardon my bad English). My point was that since NOT doing Hijab is a bad thing as well, so should we also also expose these ladies who dont cover their head...or those who wear sleeve-less dresses? Exposing bad thing is alright, but exposing bad people and making money out of it is a sin itself.
brother...I really like you.. whatever you say, have a think about it by just applying over you.... I was just like you, back in days when i was 14-16 years old...one advice, don't stop here keep searching.. you are a good lad.. May ALLAH (swt) guide you the right path..ameen
The point is the way others cannot question Muslims League intentions, despite the discrimination the have faced in Pakistan (Read Ahmadi discrimination, Shia genocide, etc etc), the same way YOU cannot question the intention of people who were not in favour of Pakistan. Its easy to label people as foreign agents. Its difficult to address their genuine grievances, and win their hearts.
why would muslim league think in negative way whereas their intention of making Pakistan was right beside it's the people who chose to make Pakistan.. is it not very easy talking about it, sitting in front of internet, in 2013. most of people who opposed Muslim league, apologized later on so they too realized that they were on wrong side. whether Maya khan made money out of it or not, the issue is that she did the right thing, and who issue the "right" to lecture morality? man anyone can do that
oh really? you've seen it with your own eyes??? brother...straight and simple If what you've said true then It's not Jihad..ok? no matter what they call it.
'Bad' is a subjective attribute...whats bad for me, may not be bad for you. I consider clean-shave as bad, that doesnt mean I go about in public forcing people to keep beard. Where do you intend to draw a line, when it comes to exposing 'bad'?
Yes, since he (like Sindi, Baloch, Bengali, Mohajir nationalist) were tired of being patronized by Punjabis. As much I love Pakistan, whats wrong with having a separatist demand on an "academic level"? If you hear and read Moulana Azad's speeches, he made the prediction of Taliban, sectarian killings back then only. Just because people were in Congress and opposed partition, doesnt mean they were wrong (as you're saying) Yes, I have seen Taliban levying war-time tax on opium revenue.
ANYONE canNOT do that. Even Prophet SAWW ensure that he do not eat 'gur' the particular day when he had to stop a kid who eat too much 'gur', remember? Now, imagine, if someone adopt a Maya Khan sort of strategy to stop kid from eating 'gur'...watching the kid secretly, and taking him by surprise just as is about to eat gur...and then shaming him that why he doesnt listen to his mom. Islam tell us to hide sins of people, and preach in such a way that sinner's 'izzat-e-nafs' is not harmed
We lost Bengladesh because we were not ready to accept their majority mandate. We have had Baloch rebellion many times in last 60 years, because they feel neglected, and patronized. We have had Urdu-speakers feeling neglected and discriminated in govt.and military jobs despite their superior education level in the name of quota system. The writ of Pakistan's army has never been established in Tribal areas where jirgas are powerful than constitution of Pakistan.
having bad past doesn't determine ur present personality.She might've had done bad things in past but she is doing good things now atleast appreciate the good thing.Quaid e Azam used to be member of congress before becomign quaid e Azam..some of Sahaba (RA) were against our Prophet (pbuh) before accepting Islam and then became among the best people. this thing that she was after is destroying our culture,i dont wanna say that but i have to.. imagine if your sister was doing that how would u feel
My religion is to to have honest intentions as well as honest means to act on my intentions. The way Jehad cannot be fought on drug money, tableegh of Maya Khan cannot be done commercially as well. Although her dancing with na-mehrams, her non-hijabi state, her non-Islamic lifestyle give her little moral authority to lecture other people on Islam, she can still do it off-camera for all I care I cannot allow people with questionable lifestyle to question other people and shaming them in public
I am sorry, I dont understand your 1st few sentences...pardon my bad English, and low IQ. Yes, I have seen Taliban finacing their jehad through opium crops the same way you have seen America firing drone missiles. Exactly my point, only Allah SWT should judge. We have no right to run with camera behind people. We can do that without camera. Our intention is to stop people from committing sin without embarrassing them. Do you know how Prophet SAWW would preach without pointing fingers?
I wouldnt like my sister or any women to be exposed like that with camera and all. Maya is doing for cheap publicity and more TRPs, and NOT Islamic reasons. And where does her past comes into this? My point was she has nor right to tell people what's right and whats wrong when she herself is living a sinful showbiz life. At least Sahabas were not worshipping idols when they stopped other people from doing so. PS: Its a different argument, but being a member of Congress is not a sin or haram.
Log jo comment pay galia dy rahe hy kia unonay apne amal is qabil kr liye k wo jannat m chly jaege ALLAH ki nazar m kon bhter hy or kon wo he sirf janta hy ghltia to wo muaf krdyta hy bajae kesi ko gali dyne k ye dua do k ALLAH ussy or hum subko hidayat dn dua nh dy sakhty to moo bn rakhe apne ghr ka mahol show off mat krwae
I agree, but my point was that everyone claim their method to be Islamic. Example of Congress and Muslims League and which is true Islamic was a bit absurd IMO. Exposing in front of whole world?! and not give chance to people to repent? Allah tell us to NOT expose sins of people. Yes, they should be stopped, but definitely NOT like this. Maya and her crew her making money out of this. Had they done it w/o camera? I dont think so.
so if he made prediction about armed forces in India and Pakistan, then why was he against creation of Pakistan? beside the arm forces were gonna exist in India as well!!! you don't predict about future,,, only ALLAH (swt) knows the future, Muslim League's intention of making Pakistan was good, you can only doubt them only when you haven't read them..
well this was one of the issue behind formation of Bangladesh,, that's exactly what i am saying muslim league had nothing to do with it. we didn't impose the system which Muslim league wanted in Pakistan.. the Islamic Socialism, if we had it imposed in Pakistan then, Pakistan would be a greatest nation in world. people who does bad things, not only doing bad things they also effect other should be punished not only exposed. b'cos they are harming the society.
And people who thought that Pakistan would be a disaster (Moulana Azaz), their intention was wrong? Look, who's judging now :) A tip: Go read about GM Syed, Bacha Khan. I dont doubt intention of MLeague, Jinnah, etc, but I also dont doubt people's intention who have a different point of view, even though I may disagree with them. Boss, intent and origin is very important for me at least. In your religion, you may do Jehad from the revenue of opium crops...I am afraid I cant support such Jehad.
you cannot correct one wrong with another wrong. Maya's lifestyle, her profession...is that Islamic for you? For few bucks, and extra TRP's she's harassing people...she has no right, thats the point.
Of course we can question it. Go read about creaton of Bengladesh Have you even seen her video of her exposing people? She is not exposing couples doing CRAZY THINGS. She is running behind ANY couple, who is simply sitting there. This is definitely means to make money out of people's sins by promoting 'sensationalism'. What if I go around in market, pushing camera onto ladies faces whose head are not covered? A/c to your theory if exposing head is haram, so we should expose these sinful women?
Oh brother....once you know Muslim league than you wouldn't question their wisdom.. so you don't think two nation theory was right? and those millions people who got martyred on way two Pakistan were stupids??? man Disintegration of Pakistan wasn't due to formation of Pakistan, it's the failure of us who couldn't keep it.. simple as. just read out your previous comments i just answered that in my previous comment. now who is talking about dress here?? every bad thing is bad...just get that!
Yuu are missing the point. I am not questioning your friends patriotism. I am just saying that there are people who do not feel as strongly about Pakistan as prolly me or you. Many Pashtuns were/are not comfy with Durand line. They see it as a man-drawn line. Similarly, many Urdu speakers feel discriminated. I, for one couldnt get admission on merit, as there was a quota in a Federal govt. institution. Bengalis, most educated were denied the opportunity to form govt despite being in majority.
listen Pal. there would always be people who'll oppose something. Bacha Khan wanted Pashtoon Part to be with Afghanistan. so ya his "intentions" weren't ""wrong"". think again. the only reason some molana were against it b'cos they believed that the way to tableeg in India would be stopped.. that's all.. they didn't think that Pakistan wouldn't survive. did u see any taliban growing opium?? killing people isn't jihad anyways, helping people, teaching people etc is also jihad. what's ur religion?
Iss mein aisa kya unusual ha jo doosiree nhi kr raheen?? Ab iss pr gaaliyaan mil rahi hen issko?? Shame on u all who r abusing nd also coz she hasnt done anything to cause pain to others
lols.. you r not getting the point. being in congress party wasn't a sin but it wasn't right. you don't want your sister or anyone to be exposed but you'll let them do whatever they are doing!!! do u think this is right? being in media doesn't mean you r sinner so don't just call her sinful because she is in media. it's the past of maya khan that everyone point at not her present.look everyone and anyone has right to stop people from doing bad things. This Girfiend things is killing our society
you r right over this (hadees).. but Issue isn't that...i am keep coming around one simple thing...and you are repeating it over and over again.. them people do shameful things openly which effects families going in park and some other places, where these sorts of things happens. imagine what you'd do if you r with your family and this thing is happening in front of you, you'll get mad..yess Islam says that yuou should hide other's sins BUT THEY ARE DOING IT OPENLY..it's they deserve punishment
oh so r u the ambassador of all people in Pakistan?? how do you know that these people are against Pakistan or feel unsecured in terms of their rights in Pakistan??? many pashtun don't accept Duran line ?? how do you know?, many Pakistani Paktun hate afghani. don't talk about Bengalis.. it's a totally different story. anyone who is capable of something in Pakistan does get chance in every field, in army, sports, media etc etc..
patronized by Punjabi??? what? and when did that happen? Moulana Azad said what?? Only Alllah (swt) knows about the future not molanas! this taliban thing happened due to our mistakes.. and by the way there are many armed forces in india as well.. didn't molana Azad predict about that?? stop living in your own created world.. when you talk, just have think about it.
man...Muslim leage!! we shouldn't have any question over that... Muslim league were right for definite. couples doing crazy things in the park in front of almost everyone, do you think they need further exposure.. i've seen it, I am frustately against it. yes you are right ALLAH (swt) said in Quran to cover other's sin, there is no question on that. but man this thing doesn't need cover, Families going in parks are getting effected, so this needs to be sorted out in either way.
you seem to b totally lost.Baloch people who who hold arms against Pakistan are not due the explanation given by you.. not all baloch feel this way except for the one who live abroad have millions of income every month. yes they feel this way. ok now urdu speaking people feel neglected!!! wow, why do you create a negative world? Urdu speaking own this country, they hold the richest cities of Pakistan e.g. Karachi, Faislabad etc. i have many urdu speaking friends, they love Pakistan more than me
o bhai g,,,itni pyaari biwi hai aap ki,,,aap to kismat walay hain,,,,aap aa jaen idhar agar woh nai jati america. So,,America is not important ur wife is important...
Sarf maya kyn asi tamam awra auratoun shasita lodhi ho ya ye sub ko ban kro Pakistan ke ab ke nasal ko agr bachna ha to islam k mutabiq sub kam kro or phla step in awara aurtou k tamam show band kro
Orrrr too mayaa ka saathhh bahttta howaa barwaaa abhiii tariii bolltiii q band ha harrram zadaa uska husband ko tookkta na harram zadaa USS ka agga too kahmosh bahttta ha uskaa agga bolnaa ko tujaah kaashhh nhi milaa kiyaa kuttaa
You dont become a fortune teller, when you say 'smoking gives one cancer'. He made predictions on the basis of his foresightedness. He made predictions about armed rebellions in India as well...but he was of the opinion that secular India will be able to absorb all of that much easily than a theocratic Pakistan.
The creation of Beng has to do with two-nation-theory-being-shredded-to-pieces, and thus we very well CAN QUESTION wisdom of Muslim League.
I dint get your last sentence (pardon my bad English). My point was that since NOT doing Hijab is a bad thing as well, so should we also also expose these ladies who dont cover their head...or those who wear sleeve-less dresses?
Exposing bad thing is alright, but exposing bad people and making money out of it is a sin itself.
That look so sad to maya khan she got married and never live with him why not in USA she live Pakistan so
brother...I really like you.. whatever you say, have a think about it by just applying over you.... I was just like you, back in days when i was 14-16 years old...one advice, don't stop here keep searching.. you are a good lad.. May ALLAH (swt) guide you the right path..ameen
The point is the way others cannot question Muslims League intentions, despite the discrimination the have faced in Pakistan (Read Ahmadi discrimination, Shia genocide, etc etc), the same way YOU cannot question the intention of people who were not in favour of Pakistan.
Its easy to label people as foreign agents. Its difficult to address their genuine grievances, and win their hearts.
why would muslim league think in negative way whereas their intention of making Pakistan was right beside it's the people who chose to make Pakistan.. is it not very easy talking about it, sitting in front of internet, in 2013. most of people who opposed Muslim league, apologized later on so they too realized that they were on wrong side. whether Maya khan made money out of it or not, the issue is that she did the right thing, and who issue the "right" to lecture morality? man anyone can do that
Q mayaa khan abbb bolna apnaa husband ko mariii job Mari marzzee q kahmosh ha bolna Tara haq ha bolll kaar tryyy kaar
Only corrupt people will abuse her she is right
oh really? you've seen it with your own eyes??? brother...straight and simple If what you've said true then It's not Jihad..ok? no matter what they call it.
'Bad' is a subjective attribute...whats bad for me, may not be bad for you. I consider clean-shave as bad, that doesnt mean I go about in public forcing people to keep beard. Where do you intend to draw a line, when it comes to exposing 'bad'?
Yes, since he (like Sindi, Baloch, Bengali, Mohajir nationalist) were tired of being patronized by Punjabis. As much I love Pakistan, whats wrong with having a separatist demand on an "academic level"?
If you hear and read Moulana Azad's speeches, he made the prediction of Taliban, sectarian killings back then only. Just because people were in Congress and opposed partition, doesnt mean they were wrong (as you're saying)
Yes, I have seen Taliban levying war-time tax on opium revenue.
ANYONE canNOT do that. Even Prophet SAWW ensure that he do not eat 'gur' the particular day when he had to stop a kid who eat too much 'gur', remember?
Now, imagine, if someone adopt a Maya Khan sort of strategy to stop kid from eating 'gur'...watching the kid secretly, and taking him by surprise just as is about to eat gur...and then shaming him that why he doesnt listen to his mom.
Islam tell us to hide sins of people, and preach in such a way that sinner's 'izzat-e-nafs' is not harmed
What is this can anyone explain this ?
We lost Bengladesh because we were not ready to accept their majority mandate. We have had Baloch rebellion many times in last 60 years, because they feel neglected, and patronized. We have had Urdu-speakers feeling neglected and discriminated in govt.and military jobs despite their superior education level in the name of quota system. The writ of Pakistan's army has never been established in Tribal areas where jirgas are powerful than constitution of Pakistan.
having bad past doesn't determine ur present personality.She might've had done bad things in past but she is doing good things now atleast appreciate the good thing.Quaid e Azam used to be member of congress before becomign quaid e Azam..some of Sahaba (RA) were against our Prophet (pbuh) before accepting Islam and then became among the best people. this thing that she was after is destroying our culture,i dont wanna say that but i have to.. imagine if your sister was doing that how would u feel
My religion is to to have honest intentions as well as honest means to act on my intentions.
The way Jehad cannot be fought on drug money, tableegh of Maya Khan cannot be done commercially as well. Although her dancing with na-mehrams, her non-hijabi state, her non-Islamic lifestyle give her little moral authority to lecture other people on Islam, she can still do it off-camera for all I care
I cannot allow people with questionable lifestyle to question other people and shaming them in public
I am sorry, I dont understand your 1st few sentences...pardon my bad English, and low IQ.
Yes, I have seen Taliban finacing their jehad through opium crops the same way you have seen America firing drone missiles.
Exactly my point, only Allah SWT should judge. We have no right to run with camera behind people. We can do that without camera. Our intention is to stop people from committing sin without embarrassing them. Do you know how Prophet SAWW would preach without pointing fingers?
Ye yahan py uska husbnd america bula raha hy or waqar zaka k show mn is ny kaha k usky pas kuch nj tha
First husband h yeh
I wouldnt like my sister or any women to be exposed like that with camera and all. Maya is doing for cheap publicity and more TRPs, and NOT Islamic reasons.
And where does her past comes into this? My point was she has nor right to tell people what's right and whats wrong when she herself is living a sinful showbiz life. At least Sahabas were not worshipping idols when they stopped other people from doing so.
PS: Its a different argument, but being a member of Congress is not a sin or haram.
Log jo comment pay galia dy rahe hy kia unonay apne amal is qabil kr liye k wo jannat m chly jaege ALLAH ki nazar m kon bhter hy or kon wo he sirf janta hy ghltia to wo muaf krdyta hy bajae kesi ko gali dyne k ye dua do k ALLAH ussy or hum subko hidayat dn dua nh dy sakhty to moo bn rakhe apne ghr ka mahol show off mat krwae
I agree, but my point was that everyone claim their method to be Islamic. Example of Congress and Muslims League and which is true Islamic was a bit absurd IMO.
Exposing in front of whole world?! and not give chance to people to repent? Allah tell us to NOT expose sins of people. Yes, they should be stopped, but definitely NOT like this. Maya and her crew her making money out of this. Had they done it w/o camera? I dont think so.
Maya is acting as an evangelist, interfering in other people's lives...so its my business at least.
so if he made prediction about armed forces in India and Pakistan, then why was he against creation of Pakistan? beside the arm forces were gonna exist in India as well!!! you don't predict about future,,, only ALLAH (swt) knows the future, Muslim League's intention of making Pakistan was good, you can only doubt them only when you haven't read them..
well this was one of the issue behind formation of Bangladesh,, that's exactly what i am saying muslim league had nothing to do with it. we didn't impose the system which Muslim league wanted in Pakistan.. the Islamic Socialism, if we had it imposed in Pakistan then, Pakistan would be a greatest nation in world. people who does bad things, not only doing bad things they also effect other should be punished not only exposed. b'cos they are harming the society.
And people who thought that Pakistan would be a disaster (Moulana Azaz), their intention was wrong? Look, who's judging now :)
A tip: Go read about GM Syed, Bacha Khan. I dont doubt intention of MLeague, Jinnah, etc, but I also dont doubt people's intention who have a different point of view, even though I may disagree with them.
Boss, intent and origin is very important for me at least. In your religion, you may do Jehad from the revenue of opium crops...I am afraid I cant support such Jehad.
Dear maya.....dont cry plz...you are too good ... they are barking so dont care abt this dog.....
you cannot correct one wrong with another wrong. Maya's lifestyle, her profession...is that Islamic for you? For few bucks, and extra TRP's she's harassing people...she has no right, thats the point.
Of course we can question it. Go read about creaton of Bengladesh
Have you even seen her video of her exposing people? She is not exposing couples doing CRAZY THINGS. She is running behind ANY couple, who is simply sitting there. This is definitely means to make money out of people's sins by promoting 'sensationalism'. What if I go around in market, pushing camera onto ladies faces whose head are not covered? A/c to your theory if exposing head is haram, so we should expose these sinful women?
Oh brother....once you know Muslim league than you wouldn't question their wisdom.. so you don't think two nation theory was right? and those millions people who got martyred on way two Pakistan were stupids??? man Disintegration of Pakistan wasn't due to formation of Pakistan, it's the failure of us who couldn't keep it.. simple as. just read out your previous comments i just answered that in my previous comment. now who is talking about dress here?? every bad thing is bad...just get that!
Yuu are missing the point. I am not questioning your friends patriotism. I am just saying that there are people who do not feel as strongly about Pakistan as prolly me or you. Many Pashtuns were/are not comfy with Durand line. They see it as a man-drawn line. Similarly, many Urdu speakers feel discriminated. I, for one couldnt get admission on merit, as there was a quota in a Federal govt. institution. Bengalis, most educated were denied the opportunity to form govt despite being in majority.
listen Pal. there would always be people who'll oppose something. Bacha Khan wanted Pashtoon Part to be with Afghanistan. so ya his "intentions" weren't ""wrong"". think again. the only reason some molana were against it b'cos they believed that the way to tableeg in India would be stopped.. that's all.. they didn't think that Pakistan wouldn't survive. did u see any taliban growing opium?? killing people isn't jihad anyways, helping people, teaching people etc is also jihad. what's ur religion?
Iss mein aisa kya unusual ha jo doosiree nhi kr raheen?? Ab iss pr gaaliyaan mil rahi hen issko??
Shame on u all who r abusing nd also coz she hasnt done anything to cause pain to others
lols.. you r not getting the point. being in congress party wasn't a sin but it wasn't right. you don't want your sister or anyone to be exposed but you'll let them do whatever they are doing!!! do u think this is right? being in media doesn't mean you r sinner so don't just call her sinful because she is in media. it's the past of maya khan that everyone point at not her present.look everyone and anyone has right to stop people from doing bad things. This Girfiend things is killing our society
you r right over this (hadees).. but Issue isn't that...i am keep coming around one simple thing...and you are repeating it over and over again.. them people do shameful things openly which effects families going in park and some other places, where these sorts of things happens. imagine what you'd do if you r with your family and this thing is happening in front of you, you'll get mad..yess Islam says that yuou should hide other's sins BUT THEY ARE DOING IT OPENLY..it's they deserve punishment
log jo marzi kahe ap bohat achi hai
Ap jasy log hi pahly aurat ko shay daty ha phir knjre gshti bol kr haji ban jaty ha?
Maya khan ka husband Ismailli hey? ??,?
people like you.. man..this thing is wrong...it's against Islam and our culture to have relationship before marriage. do you think this is right?
oh so r u the ambassador of all people in Pakistan?? how do you know that these people are against Pakistan or feel unsecured in terms of their rights in Pakistan??? many pashtun don't accept Duran line ?? how do you know?, many Pakistani Paktun hate afghani. don't talk about Bengalis.. it's a totally different story. anyone who is capable of something in Pakistan does get chance in every field, in army, sports, media etc etc..
patronized by Punjabi??? what? and when did that happen? Moulana Azad said what?? Only Alllah (swt) knows about the future not molanas! this taliban thing happened due to our mistakes.. and by the way there are many armed forces in india as well.. didn't molana Azad predict about that?? stop living in your own created world.. when you talk, just have think about it.
man...Muslim leage!! we shouldn't have any question over that... Muslim league were right for definite. couples doing crazy things in the park in front of almost everyone, do you think they need further exposure.. i've seen it, I am frustately against it. yes you are right ALLAH (swt) said in Quran to cover other's sin, there is no question on that. but man this thing doesn't need cover, Families going in parks are getting effected, so this needs to be sorted out in either way.
you seem to b totally lost.Baloch people who who hold arms against Pakistan are not due the explanation given by you.. not all baloch feel this way except for the one who live abroad have millions of income every month. yes they feel this way. ok now urdu speaking people feel neglected!!! wow, why do you create a negative world? Urdu speaking own this country, they hold the richest cities of Pakistan e.g. Karachi, Faislabad etc. i have many urdu speaking friends, they love Pakistan more than me
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Maya khan is good but I can't understand y she discussed ladies secret problems wid boys.I hate this .ladies problem discuss wid only ladies.
o bhai g,,,itni pyaari biwi hai aap ki,,,aap to kismat walay hain,,,,aap aa jaen idhar agar woh nai jati america. So,,America is not important ur wife is important...
Sharif larkion sy shadi karaty howy taklif hoti ha logon ko. In jesi vulgar sy shadi krna aizaz samjhty hein log.
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Orrrr too mayaa ka saathhh bahttta howaa barwaaa abhiii tariii bolltiii q band ha harrram zadaa uska husband ko tookkta na harram zadaa USS ka agga too kahmosh bahttta ha uskaa agga bolnaa ko tujaah kaashhh nhi milaa kiyaa kuttaa
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