This is what I should be watching online, instead of the sensationalist nonsense that is ubiquitous in the media. This is blisteringly fascinating material. I studied archaeology for two years in college in the early 1980s, but it only amounted to a modest collection of antique glass, pottery and prehistoric artifacts. Keep up the good work.
Nice. My family were all hoarders and I cherish things like my grandads radio plus all the pay as you go payment stubbs and his accounts books. The books of messages my granny bought tea sugar milk bread. I have my great grandmothers beautiful silk dress ..looks like the dowager on Downton would wear it. I have her sewing machines too. Old nobs and knockers bits and bobs. I always felt like an archaeologist when I would enter one of the hoarded rooms and look into boxes. We had old medical books but I don't know where they went with pop up diagrams of organs you could lift the stomach ans see the liver etc. So cool. I just live history.
Outstanding video, both in terms of the informative content and also the videography! This is exactly why TPG is one of my favourite history channels on YT.
I also enjoyed the content with one exception. There is absolutely no way in hell this was built by hunters & gatherers. I know because I grew up as one for a time. In the early 70s my parents bought land on the newly formed Kentucky lake. They bought 1000 acres of lakefront property. We moved there in 71. There was no telephone, no electric, no neighbors, no stores, nothing. Nothing but trees & water. We came with a boat, a chainsaw, a camper van, some gardening tools and seeds. The first year's we lived as hunters & gatherers while we were turning some land into that which we could garden. We even had the advantages of fishing and ammo and yet we couldn't gather enough food to keep energy levels up enough to build our home. That's with the added bonus of having all materials already manufactured, cut, delivered nails, concrete etc. We didn't need to carve stone, move it, etc. We ended up hiring ppl to clear cut an acre after a year of that nonsense. It took every member of the family to hunt, fish, gather berries, persimmons, apples, nuts. That's back before the government removed all the food bearing trees from land. So we had it easier than those people would have had it and we still couldn't keep energy levels up high enough to do anything other than procure food. Once we got the garden going and harvesting vegetables and supplemented that with eggs from our chickens, fish, game etc then and only then were we able to begin building. So don't let these ppl feed you a line a bs. These ppl were not doing all this while gathering leaves and eating mice.
@@phillipstroll7385 Interesting. I think it depends on how large your family was compared to more people living in Göbekli Tepe where tasks were most likely divided.
Hi Matt! Great to hear from you. Thank you so much! It's hard to think it's coming up to a year since we were there - maybe we should compare notes sometime. M.
What an excellent start. When you guys first mentioned this idea of Gobekli Tepe to Stonehenge I was excited but after watching this I feel like you're making something truly unique that I've wanted to see for a long time, and making it exactly how it should be made. I also like the idea of it being an end instead of a beginning, as that's not something I've given much thought. It really puts things in a different perspective and makes you think about these people in a different way.
This was excellent. I've been trying to keep up with your narratives, questions and explorations of this region and time for quite a while. I look forward to seeing more.
The house at 11:40 is oval, wile the others I saw were rectangular. In other sites in the Levant the oval and circular predate the square and rectangular houses. If this was here also the case, could the large oval special buildings hint at a memory of an earlier period, like the (much much later) Kiva in the rectangular Pueblo structures in the southwest of the US hinted at the round earth houses of their ancestors, as this was also the special building.
When i saw the Gobekli Tepe first time I was awe shocked with the vast, enormous size of the site. That site is masterly engineered in complex work and task forces , labourships from the pepple to megalitic rock.
I expect that the people who built Gobekli Tepe did not distinguish between 'religion', 'culture', 'power structure', 'subsistence activities', 'hobbies', and 'being impressive' in quite the same ways that we do. I also expect that they had been modifying their local environment for a long time, and gradually getting more detailed about it. Lots and lots of facilitating maximum production of wild plants/animals, and a bit of introducing a few things here and there. Humans always mess about with their environment, they can't help it.
I saw this as just a huge entertaining area, with the log supports long gone and the timber framing I could see a performing stage, somewhere for important people to sit, the downstairs room was the green room, the preparation room and with timber on top could see the path to entry and where all the people would sit.
@@curtisnixon5313 The whole bloody place, you sat in place and those charming slaves bring it to you then might be sacrificed, all very entertaining but I'm hoping this was just for the arts.
I’m always amazed that these scientists studiously avoid using the term “land management.” Living that close to the land for millennia watching how things grow “What grows together goes together” it seems that they cultivated large food forests like the Native Americans, taking advantage of, as they said, of hundreds of native grains and legumes.
Wonderful probing into how this intelligent species, humans, gradually learned to live with its environment and to improve upon it. I’m so happy to see you going beyond the Neolithic to see its development. Environments changed in those years 23,000-10,700 ya (not to mention earthquakes in that region), and it’s fascinating to take a look at the evidence of human adaptation. I cannot help but add: we hopefully have the ingenuity to continue to adapt, what with our presently changing environments (and destructive wars). So glad to be a small Patreon supporter❤
Native americans required thousands of years domesticate maize. But at the beginning of that period, they were cultivating wild plant species. I personally think it likely that the people who created Göbekli Tepe were farming wild plants on a large scale. But because the plants were not yet domesticated, and the evidence is buried or no longer in existence, we haven't detected it.
Thank you so much for a brilliant video. It answers and rebuts so much of the false narratives that are being spread in social media. I have two questions if I may. First, has geophysics been used on the site to see what is below the surface or is the geology and depth making this impossible? Second, can I post the link to this video when I am rebutting some of the strange ideas some people have on FaceBook?
Wow, fabulous and so informative. Glad to hear the archaeologist say that there's still unknown technologies that they may have had, which is something I have always believed and wondered. So much bone and wooden artifacts destroyed, hoping that just 1 may turn up some day. 👍🗿🌝
I LOVED the fact that the presenters were just... in AWE of the weight of TIME, and that people were there! What tickles my curiosity... as we can see the evolution of pyramids in Egypt, from mastabas, to stacked mastabas, to the bent pyramid to Giza... what were the steps towards Gobekli Tepe? How long had it been evolving? People doing stuff together! And the idea that Neolithic were "hunter gatherers" were NOT primitive, just lacking a McDonalds. Lol Bravo, gents... thank you, and all your crew! Bravo.
I'm just about your age or a few years younger, I'm happy that you made it to all these marvelous sites 🙂......time is precious.....I'm sure this was one big one on your bucket list 💪👍👍👍
Yes, today I find a better way to split stone and it spreads like a virus, mostly because others do not want to be left out ;-) Always the same, always changing ;-)
17:25 - When you mention the massive variety of plants that was consumed it struck a cord. I am an over 50 who went through primitivism in his 40's. [ semi=retired from tech and went a bit 'apeman' ] I survived with many lessons, the least of them was that the local biodiversity was not enough for full survival. [ Fenland farms around, few open grounds for large patches of wild species ] I still have abs in my 50's from yoga though ;-)
AH I remember the Old days with grandpa we would track and hunt the last of the mammoth and process down to movable sections DOWN to Gobekli Tepe for final processing that was all those different buildings each had a separate animal or part which told you what they processed there. THEN we would take the items down Mesopotamia way and trade with the farmers down there for BEER. My wild and reckless youth NOW I fear we are all farmers.
@@Wyatt1314. YEA and later we enlisted the herder/horse/cart dudes SO AS to utilize their new thingy The Cart and transport even more BEER back. YOU did not do the same thing YOU must be from the boy fingernail polishing group we passed on the way. HUH.
One Man was able to build Coral Castle so it doesn’t shock me that a whole civilization could build Gobekli Tepe 🤷🏼♀️. Humans have just forgotten a technology that is probably so simple we can’t fathom it.
Only just last night I was reading up on the newer findings about Göbekli Tepe and the other similar sites and discussing it with a friend. And this morning you guys drop this amazing video. ❤
That was quite refreshing to hear people talk a much more nuanced transition to a farming existence, rather than hunting woolly mamoths and big game until suddenly farming arrived and changed everything.
Did they warned about the S.I.D.A..dense objects or both,10800 B.C or 9700 B.C. I think the Edda Aesir refers to the Kappadokian and the Vanir to the inhabitants at Lake Van and other part of the old Armenia,and the Aegean Ocean heading to both Anatolia and Aegiptaland(Egypt) after the Tepe burials they're heading over their heels to Mongolia,Siberia,China,and when the bronze age kollapses and the fall of Rome by catastrophs and cataclysm,and not the Hsiong nu and Attila.
Sorry I got confused I'm not getting notifications I thought this was a repost by ancient architects. Guys I'm buy a coffee and patron but I'm never getting notifications or updates 😭
Brilliant, thank you! This should really give people a feel for what it's like to be there - you always do this so well. And maybe this helps everyone's sense of realism, dispelling some of the clouds of all-too mythical thinking.
Incredible skill and determination to make something amazing for themselves We're not a bad animal when we behave ourselves and stop attacking each other
What I take from this is how much technological progress has been made by mankind in the last 300 years compared to the pre history times. Astounding, but maybe we’re too clever for our own good. Fascinating stuff.
This is by far the best work I have seen or read concerning Göbekli Tepe. I worked at a sight 100k to the west in 2001-2002 and kick myself now for never visiting the pot belly hill... All we discovered is perhaps the oldest bronze furnace xD
Tas Tepeler was a grouping of 12, pre-pottery sites, of hunter-gathers who were also GARDENERS.. These sites were organized around the Harran Plain, from which they took wild seasonally ripening GROCERIES. . . It was wetter then. Grasslands we’re able to support a sedentary population with suppers of wild game, grain and veggies. BEER was also on the menu as well as honey and foul. Good living I’d say. Infants lived, old folks no longer went hungry… and the mating was probably very advantageous.
Nothing at Gobekle-tepe says to me that they are the first to be doing the things they're doing. The stone work shaping and carving, the wild grain grinding, the water collection. This doesn't seem like their first attempt at these lifeways to me.
Do you think they were collecting all those cereal grains to make bread, or maybe those large stone bowls were for dropping water, cereal, and hot stones into to make porridge? They are large for stone bowls, but not large enough to use for storage unless you find dozens of them together.
If you look at the excavated areas showing more un excavated area it appears the stones are placed carefully suggesting buried on purpose. Stones are not randomly piled up, but an orderly appearance!
Fascinating, thank you! I remember that it is pretty much established that environmental depletion and ultimately starvation was what ended the great ceremonial center of the Anasazi ("ancient ones") at Chaco Canyon in the Southwestern U.S. Jared Diamond in his book "Collapse" suggests that this was the cause of the collapse of the Mayan Empire as well.
If the site was next to a migratory route for massive herds, they could have collected enough surplus to allow for time and energy to be diverted from finding food to building centers to process the yearly collection.
Gobekli Tepe may very well have been an end to a particular way of life, an end that could have resonated for a few millennia after it was "decommissioned" (if that is the correct way to put what happened). it is conceivable that folk memory of their successors in Mesopotamia would tell tales of their forebears who built wonderful things out of stone, and lived a life alongside the gods of old, or who may have been gods themselves. such tales would inspire those successors to try to emulate them. particularly once agriculture had been as you fellows put it, "sorted".
I have two questions. Can I please put a link to this excellent video when debunking the usual nonsense around Gobekli Tepe? Can you tell me if geophysics surveys have been done on the GB site and what were the results? Many thanks!
Hi Gerry, please put the link wherever you like. If you check through some of our other Gobekli Tepe movies we do include some of the geophys results showing other unexcavated structures. There's also a film called Debunking Gobekli Tepe Conspiracy Theories" - it's astonishing what some people prefer to believe! R
Love your video, as always, but a recurring theme - it's too quiet! I'm sitting in my kitchen, while my dinner is cooking in an electric fan oven, and I can't hear the audio, yet again. I subscribe to many channels and many of them I have to turn the volume down!!! That's fine, but I can't turn yours up!!! Please, please upload videos with a higher level of audio.
The “Hunter Gatherer” is a wonderful term. It makes me think of how Native Americans husbanded the forests. The early European colonists didn’t really understand what they were looking at. But in their notebooks they wrote about how wonderful the forests were, because first, the forest floors were clear and easy to walk through, and everywhere you go there’s a huge variety of good things to eat. They didn’t understand that the Native Americans had been managing it for thousands of years. I’m sure the area around Gobekli Tepe was very similar. It’s not farming that you would recognize unless you appreciate what you’re looking at.
If there is wheat nearby they could chop down the trees and dig out all the weeds and bushes in a couple of years youv got your self a wheat field and with a bit of management you could farm it naturally
Sort of. My understanding is that early on many of the grains were tiny in comparison to modern grain, also maybe slower growing etc. Hundreds to thousands of years of selective breeding make a big difference. Early attempts at farming were probably a mixed bag success and failure.
@@Reginaldesq That could occur naturally by setting side a field im sure even after a couple of years the crops will improve in numbers, It will only take one clever kid to say im gona grow this plant again cos the grains are bigger and we made nice bread ..Im sure they were more clever than we make out ..They must know if this tree has big apples the apple seed will grow into a tree with the same size apples
@@braddbradd5671 Maybe. It can depend on lots of stuff. Things that seem logical because we have prior knowledge may have been unnoticed at the time. Also culture can play a big part. If you worship a god (lets say the fruit god) and that god makes the apples, then it might be considered heresy to plant a seed (so you think yourself better than god). Galileo, faced similar obstacles (as a way of demonstrating its not unusual).
I totally agree with these guys, it has to be settlements otherwise it doesn't make sense. and I blame Claus Schmidt for the fact that during many many years we had to think that göbeklitepe was just a religious site that people used only for special occasions
The natural abundance of wild grains determined the locations of these sights. It’s as if nature was doing the farming for them. They developed the culture necessary to provide other foods, storage, water, shelter, etc. to sustain permanent sedentary settlements where the wild grains were already abundant. Over the years these settlers would have recognized the conditions that produced the most abundant harvests. Farming began when these grains were gathered and perhaps transported to less desirable sites and artificially cultivated using human knowledge and ingenuity to create better conditions for abundant growth.
All in all peoples , cultures, and many other aspects not counted , the endings always find ways towards beginning over and over again . One could speculate that this dance of change has gone on for several hundred thousands of years. We rise then move on, but not fall . are there possible patterns we are all missing ?
This is what I should be watching online, instead of the sensationalist nonsense that is ubiquitous in the media. This is blisteringly fascinating material. I studied archaeology for two years in college in the early 1980s, but it only amounted to a modest collection of antique glass, pottery and prehistoric artifacts. Keep up the good work.
History for Granite is another good channel
ancient astronaut theorists say: "yes"
Now we get the nitty gritty information. 😊
Nice. My family were all hoarders and I cherish things like my grandads radio plus all the pay as you go payment stubbs and his accounts books. The books of messages my granny bought tea sugar milk bread. I have my great grandmothers beautiful silk dress ..looks like the dowager on Downton would wear it. I have her sewing machines too. Old nobs and knockers bits and bobs. I always felt like an archaeologist when I would enter one of the hoarded rooms and look into boxes. We had old medical books but I don't know where they went with pop up diagrams of organs you could lift the stomach ans see the liver etc. So cool. I just live history.
I'm just glad they aren't trying to suggest that, "It might be aliens"...
You are a critical aspect of my quest to keep my brain alive. Think, think, think, question, ponder, think. I just love you!
Outstanding video, both in terms of the informative content and also the videography! This is exactly why TPG is one of my favourite history channels on YT.
THat's great to hear - thanks for that 😊 M.
I also enjoyed the content with one exception. There is absolutely no way in hell this was built by hunters & gatherers. I know because I grew up as one for a time. In the early 70s my parents bought land on the newly formed Kentucky lake. They bought 1000 acres of lakefront property. We moved there in 71. There was no telephone, no electric, no neighbors, no stores, nothing. Nothing but trees & water. We came with a boat, a chainsaw, a camper van, some gardening tools and seeds. The first year's we lived as hunters & gatherers while we were turning some land into that which we could garden. We even had the advantages of fishing and ammo and yet we couldn't gather enough food to keep energy levels up enough to build our home. That's with the added bonus of having all materials already manufactured, cut, delivered nails, concrete etc. We didn't need to carve stone, move it, etc. We ended up hiring ppl to clear cut an acre after a year of that nonsense. It took every member of the family to hunt, fish, gather berries, persimmons, apples, nuts. That's back before the government removed all the food bearing trees from land. So we had it easier than those people would have had it and we still couldn't keep energy levels up high enough to do anything other than procure food. Once we got the garden going and harvesting vegetables and supplemented that with eggs from our chickens, fish, game etc then and only then were we able to begin building. So don't let these ppl feed you a line a bs. These ppl were not doing all this while gathering leaves and eating mice.
@@phillipstroll7385 Interesting. I think it depends on how large your family was compared to more people living in Göbekli Tepe where tasks were most likely divided.
What a fantastic video. I was there 2 weeks ago - for the first time - and I loved it. And I saw Sayburç and Karahan Tepe too. Superb.
Hi Matt! Yours videos are fantastic!
Hi Matt! Great to hear from you. Thank you so much! It's hard to think it's coming up to a year since we were there - maybe we should compare notes sometime. M.
@@AncientArchitects would love to hear you all do a video together! 😃🙏
@@ThePrehistoryGuysHappy to share any footage / pictures you’re interested in too. We should meet over a pint some time!
I always like seeing a channel I love posting on another channel. Thank you both channels for all your work.
What an excellent start. When you guys first mentioned this idea of Gobekli Tepe to Stonehenge I was excited but after watching this I feel like you're making something truly unique that I've wanted to see for a long time, and making it exactly how it should be made. I also like the idea of it being an end instead of a beginning, as that's not something I've given much thought. It really puts things in a different perspective and makes you think about these people in a different way.
My sentiments exactly. Bravo you guys! I can't wait for the next installments.
Absolutely agree.
One of the best channels on TH-cam, this. You guys produce some really great stuff. Thanks.
I like this format guys. Photos are so crisp. Also I also really enjoy finding out anything new about the Natufians. Thanks !!
These discoveries in Turkey and surrounds are totally fascinating and I feel thrilled to see them discovered in my lifetime.
This was excellent. I've been trying to keep up with your narratives, questions and explorations of this region and time for quite a while. I look forward to seeing more.
Good on them for inviting you in! I’m sure I’d be as touched by the awesomeness of the place as you were. Thanks for sharing this with us!
The house at 11:40 is oval, wile the others I saw were rectangular. In other sites in the Levant the oval and circular predate the square and rectangular houses. If this was here also the case, could the large oval special buildings hint at a memory of an earlier period, like the (much much later) Kiva in the rectangular Pueblo structures in the southwest of the US hinted at the round earth houses of their ancestors, as this was also the special building.
Excellent video. Thank you for providing some much needed context and perspective. The best thing I have seen you do.
Fantastic video. This is the first time I have seen the place from that perspective and in such detail.
When i saw the Gobekli Tepe first time I was awe shocked with the vast, enormous size of the site. That site is masterly engineered in complex work and task forces , labourships from the pepple to megalitic rock.
This video, your insights, your footage, is incredible. I feel so inspired by this. Truly life changing revelations. Thank you for all of your work.
I was there yesterday and agree what a wonderful site. I can’t wait to revisit in 10 years time. The finds displayed in Urfa museum are stunning
Loved seeing you walk amoung the pillars and seeing the details
Very well presented and information. Food for thought. Pushes me to learn more. Thanks!
Seeing Rupert's face when he first saw Gobekli Tepe made me cry for his totally awesome reaction!! ❤
Great work as always. Succinct update for anyone who hasn’t kept up to date with the work at the site.
I expect that the people who built Gobekli Tepe did not distinguish between 'religion', 'culture', 'power structure', 'subsistence activities', 'hobbies', and 'being impressive' in quite the same ways that we do. I also expect that they had been modifying their local environment for a long time, and gradually getting more detailed about it. Lots and lots of facilitating maximum production of wild plants/animals, and a bit of introducing a few things here and there. Humans always mess about with their environment, they can't help it.
I saw this as just a huge entertaining area, with the log supports long gone and the timber framing I could see a performing stage, somewhere for important people to sit, the downstairs room was the green room, the preparation room and with timber on top could see the path to entry and where all the people would sit.
Where was the bar?
@@curtisnixon5313 The whole bloody place, you sat in place and those charming slaves bring it to you then might be sacrificed, all very entertaining but I'm hoping this was just for the arts.
I’m always amazed that these scientists studiously avoid using the term “land management.” Living that close to the land for millennia watching how things grow “What grows together goes together” it seems that they cultivated large food forests like the Native Americans, taking advantage of, as they said, of hundreds of native grains and legumes.
Yes managing grassland and so herds,managing water and foodforests. The way to abundance.
Wonderful probing into how this intelligent species, humans, gradually learned to live with its environment and to improve upon it. I’m so happy to see you going beyond the Neolithic to see its development. Environments changed in those years 23,000-10,700 ya (not to mention earthquakes in that region), and it’s fascinating to take a look at the evidence of human adaptation. I cannot help but add: we hopefully have the ingenuity to continue to adapt, what with our presently changing environments (and destructive wars). So glad to be a small Patreon supporter❤
Native americans required thousands of years domesticate maize. But at the beginning of that period, they were cultivating wild plant species. I personally think it likely that the people who created Göbekli Tepe were farming wild plants on a large scale. But because the plants were not yet domesticated, and the evidence is buried or no longer in existence, we haven't detected it.
look up einkhorn wheat
Thank you, Michael and Rupert. Wonderful as always.
Thank you so much for a brilliant video. It answers and rebuts so much of the false narratives that are being spread in social media. I have two questions if I may. First, has geophysics been used on the site to see what is below the surface or is the geology and depth making this impossible? Second, can I post the link to this video when I am rebutting some of the strange ideas some people have on FaceBook?
This is a fantastic video. Love what you guys are doing, keep up the good work!
Wow, fabulous and so informative. Glad to hear the archaeologist say that there's still unknown technologies that they may have had, which is something I have always believed and wondered. So much bone and wooden artifacts destroyed, hoping that just 1 may turn up some day. 👍🗿🌝
You heard something like "advanced technology" but nothing of the sort was suggested ,Graham
@@travisgoesthere no I heard unknown technologies! 👂
Great work you two. Well worth the coffees I bought. Upwards and onwards.
I LOVED the fact that the presenters were just... in AWE of the weight of TIME, and that people were there!
What tickles my curiosity... as we can see the evolution of pyramids in Egypt, from mastabas, to stacked mastabas, to the bent pyramid to Giza... what were the steps towards Gobekli Tepe? How long had it been evolving?
People doing stuff together!
And the idea that Neolithic were "hunter gatherers" were NOT primitive, just lacking a McDonalds. Lol
Bravo, gents... thank you, and all your crew! Bravo.
I'm just about your age or a few years younger, I'm happy that you made it to all these marvelous sites 🙂......time is precious.....I'm sure this was one big one on your bucket list 💪👍👍👍
Brilliant video. Thank you. You gave me a lot of fodder for thought.
Glad to hear it. Thank you 😊 M.
I love the idea that these were the tipping points of innovation & not the innovation itself. 💯💗
Yes, today I find a better way to split stone and it spreads like a virus, mostly because others do not want to be left out ;-)
Always the same, always changing ;-)
@@philiprowney but are you still dry? 🤭
17:25 - When you mention the massive variety of plants that was consumed it struck a cord.
I am an over 50 who went through primitivism in his 40's. [ semi=retired from tech and went a bit 'apeman' ]
I survived with many lessons, the least of them was that the local biodiversity was not enough for full survival. [ Fenland farms around, few open grounds for large patches of wild species ]
I still have abs in my 50's from yoga though ;-)
So nice to see and hear You again ❤
Reminds me of Palenque in Mexico. They have T shaped windows and door openings.
Brilliant video. I love hearing about our ancestors and how clever they were.
AH I remember the Old days with grandpa we would track and hunt the last of the mammoth and process down to movable sections DOWN to Gobekli Tepe for final processing that was all those different buildings each had a separate animal or part which told you what they processed there. THEN we would take the items down Mesopotamia way and trade with the farmers down there for BEER. My wild and reckless youth NOW I fear we are all farmers.
Yep. Beer at the source of everything we reckon. 🤣 M.
Wow. Definitely NOT.
@@Wyatt1314. YEA and later we enlisted the herder/horse/cart dudes SO AS to utilize their new thingy The Cart and transport even more BEER back. YOU did not do the same thing YOU must be from the boy fingernail polishing group we passed on the way. HUH.
@@scottfoster3548😂 the good ol' days.
One Man was able to build Coral Castle so it doesn’t shock me that a whole civilization could build Gobekli Tepe 🤷🏼♀️. Humans have just forgotten a technology that is probably so simple we can’t fathom it.
Only just last night I was reading up on the newer findings about Göbekli Tepe and the other similar sites and discussing it with a friend.
And this morning you guys drop this amazing video. ❤
What’s are the latest findings?
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing a deeper, richer look at this important site, and a glimpse into the lives of its inhabitants.
That was quite refreshing to hear people talk a much more nuanced transition to a farming existence, rather than hunting woolly mamoths and big game until suddenly farming arrived and changed everything.
Did they warned about the S.I.D.A..dense objects or both,10800 B.C or 9700 B.C. I think the Edda Aesir refers to the Kappadokian and the Vanir to the inhabitants at Lake Van and other part of the old Armenia,and the
Aegean Ocean heading to both Anatolia and Aegiptaland(Egypt) after the Tepe burials they're heading over their heels to Mongolia,Siberia,China,and when the bronze age kollapses and the fall of Rome by catastrophs and cataclysm,and not the Hsiong nu and Attila.
Four times the age of stone henge and people nonchalantly prodding animal sculptures with their fingers!
An ending! I love how this information calibrated my assumptions & timelines about prehistory. Wonderful film. Thank you!
Prehistory guy's. Surprised you've not referenced those amazing guys before! Great stuff
Sorry I got confused I'm not getting notifications I thought this was a repost by ancient architects. Guys I'm buy a coffee and patron but I'm never getting notifications or updates 😭
Brilliant, thank you! This should really give people a feel for what it's like to be there - you always do this so well. And maybe this helps everyone's sense of realism, dispelling some of the clouds of all-too mythical thinking.
I love this. Its so important to speak out in honesty and supported evidence to people who are interested.
I loved the format of this, change is not always bad ;-)
Thanks!
Thanks so much for the support!
Great video as always.
Appreciated - thank you! M.
Good stuff.
Wow! This episode explained so much!
Thank you for this new knowledge!
Incredible skill and determination to make something amazing for themselves
We're not a bad animal when we behave ourselves and stop attacking each other
What I take from this is how much technological progress has been made by mankind in the last 300 years compared to the pre history times. Astounding, but maybe we’re too clever for our own good. Fascinating stuff.
You guys are AMAZING! Keep it up
This is by far the best work I have seen or read concerning Göbekli Tepe. I worked at a sight 100k to the west in 2001-2002 and kick myself now for never visiting the pot belly hill...
All we discovered is perhaps the oldest bronze furnace xD
Tas Tepeler was a grouping of 12, pre-pottery sites, of hunter-gathers who were also GARDENERS.. These sites were organized around the Harran Plain, from which they took wild seasonally ripening GROCERIES. . . It was wetter then. Grasslands we’re able to support a sedentary population with suppers of wild game, grain and veggies. BEER was also on the menu as well as honey and foul. Good living I’d say. Infants lived, old folks no longer went hungry… and the mating was probably very advantageous.
Nothing at Gobekle-tepe says to me that they are the first to be doing the things they're doing. The stone work shaping and carving, the wild grain grinding, the water collection. This doesn't seem like their first attempt at these lifeways to me.
There is a lot of sites like this one very near. This site is part of a large whole.
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Hearing peoples voices expecially hearing children call out mummy mummy really gave me a sense of it been a bustling settlement
Do you think they were collecting all those cereal grains to make bread, or maybe those large stone bowls were for dropping water, cereal, and hot stones into to make porridge? They are large for stone bowls, but not large enough to use for storage unless you find dozens of them together.
If you look at the excavated areas showing more un excavated area it appears the stones are placed carefully suggesting buried on purpose. Stones are not randomly piled up, but an orderly appearance!
Fascinating, eye-opening and wonderful video. Thanks.
Great work! Excellent presentation. New sub.
great video and it may have been the end of an era. I am sure we have much more to discover.
“We don’t know who they were… or what they were doing” 😉
Wonderful! Thank you.
Very well done and very much needed
Such an informative video.! Loved it!
4:01 - Wow, I love the way you described this ancient artifact 🗺 It felt like I was right there discovering it!
Another archeologist has suggested that these were food storage venues.
Interesting idea.
Fascinating, thank you! I remember that it is pretty much established that environmental depletion and ultimately starvation was what ended the great ceremonial center of the Anasazi ("ancient ones") at Chaco Canyon in the Southwestern U.S. Jared Diamond in his book "Collapse" suggests that this was the cause of the collapse of the Mayan Empire as well.
Terrific!
If the site was next to a migratory route for massive herds, they could have collected enough surplus to allow for time and energy to be diverted from finding food to building centers to process the yearly collection.
Gobekli Tepe may very well have been an end to a particular way of life,
an end that could have resonated for a few millennia after it was
"decommissioned" (if that is the correct way to put what happened).
it is conceivable that folk memory of their successors in Mesopotamia
would tell tales of their forebears who built wonderful things out of stone,
and lived a life alongside the gods of old,
or
who may have been gods themselves.
such tales would inspire those successors to try to emulate them.
particularly once agriculture had been as you fellows put it, "sorted".
When are you going to update Apple Podcasts
Absolutely fascinating, thanks very much.
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Aw - thank you! Made me smile 😊 M.
@@ThePrehistoryGuys Always an absolute joy, thanks so much for all your enlightenment 😊
Great video!
I have two questions. Can I please put a link to this excellent video when debunking the usual nonsense around Gobekli Tepe? Can you tell me if geophysics surveys have been done on the GB site and what were the results? Many thanks!
Hi Gerry, please put the link wherever you like. If you check through some of our other Gobekli Tepe movies we do include some of the geophys results showing other unexcavated structures. There's also a film called Debunking Gobekli Tepe Conspiracy Theories" - it's astonishing what some people prefer to believe! R
@@ThePrehistoryGuys Thanks for the response. I will post when appropriate. Thanks for the info on geophys I will look through the video as suggested.
Love your video, as always, but a recurring theme - it's too quiet! I'm sitting in my kitchen, while my dinner is cooking in an electric fan oven, and I can't hear the audio, yet again. I subscribe to many channels and many of them I have to turn the volume down!!! That's fine, but I can't turn yours up!!! Please, please upload videos with a higher level of audio.
I just got gobeklitepe’d.
I actually felt the magic BBC Horizon once had.
Our great great great ancestors continue to amaze us. It goes on and on and on.
Marvelous
Great Video, thanks! Göbekli Tepe is spelt incorrectly for the last chapter of the vid, it is spelt as "Goöbekli Tepe: an end not a beginning".
Thanks for this. What do you think was the original purpose for this site?
Could it have been a place designed for them to socialize and maybe not a temple?
The “Hunter Gatherer” is a wonderful term. It makes me think of how Native Americans husbanded the forests. The early European colonists didn’t really understand what they were looking at. But in their notebooks they wrote about how wonderful the forests were, because first, the forest floors were clear and easy to walk through, and everywhere you go there’s a huge variety of good things to eat. They didn’t understand that the Native Americans had been managing it for thousands of years. I’m sure the area around Gobekli Tepe was very similar. It’s not farming that you would recognize unless you appreciate what you’re looking at.
WOW! Just wow guys, thank you!!
I would love to see this place in person
Gets one thinking about all the other potential ancient settlements yet to be discovered and excavated that stretch back many millennia.
If there is wheat nearby they could chop down the trees and dig out all the weeds and bushes in a couple of years youv got your self a wheat field and with a bit of management you could farm it naturally
Sort of. My understanding is that early on many of the grains were tiny in comparison to modern grain, also maybe slower growing etc. Hundreds to thousands of years of selective breeding make a big difference. Early attempts at farming were probably a mixed bag success and failure.
@@Reginaldesq That could occur naturally by setting side a field im sure even after a couple of years the crops will improve in numbers, It will only take one clever kid to say im gona grow this plant again cos the grains are bigger and we made nice bread ..Im sure they were more clever than we make out ..They must know if this tree has big apples the apple seed will grow into a tree with the same size apples
@@braddbradd5671 Maybe. It can depend on lots of stuff. Things that seem logical because we have prior knowledge may have been unnoticed at the time. Also culture can play a big part. If you worship a god (lets say the fruit god) and that god makes the apples, then it might be considered heresy to plant a seed (so you think yourself better than god). Galileo, faced similar obstacles (as a way of demonstrating its not unusual).
31:57 "Gradual progression" is probably even sped up as many people are living together on the same place (exchange of knowledge and ideas)
I totally agree with these guys, it has to be settlements otherwise it doesn't make sense. and I blame Claus Schmidt for the fact that during many many years we had to think that göbeklitepe was just a religious site that people used only for special occasions
If I remember correctly, you said that Catal Hoyuk houses were built of brick, but these look like piled stones?
The natural abundance of wild grains determined the locations of these sights. It’s as if nature was doing the farming for them. They developed the culture necessary to provide other foods, storage, water, shelter, etc. to sustain permanent sedentary settlements where the wild grains were already abundant. Over the years these settlers would have recognized the conditions that produced the most abundant harvests. Farming began when these grains were gathered and perhaps transported to less desirable sites and artificially cultivated using human knowledge and ingenuity to create better conditions for abundant growth.
All in all peoples , cultures, and many other aspects not counted , the endings always find ways towards beginning over and over again . One could speculate that this dance of change has gone on for several hundred thousands of years. We rise then move on, but not fall . are there possible patterns we are all missing ?
How did gobliki Tepe get buried so deep, and where did the fill come from?
it was built into the side of a hill. the hill collapsed over time since it was cut into and made unstable.