"I think we just checkmated them" - Northernlion 2020 after coming back from depths of hell and reminding his opponent that Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
@@NoctanNights The videos are fine, what's concerning is the drifting lifestyle till they hit a video. I wasn't too cereal, anyway. Smth smth Pog your gourds.
When doing key moments or analysis, when somebody makes a mistake, look at the computer suggested REPLY to the mistake (green arrow on the next move) to understand why the move was a mistake. The first game analysis you didn't realize your h7 pawn was hanging, so both you and your opponent kept making mistakes by not taking/protecting h7, but you didn't realize that's what the computer was trying to tell you. Good chess content nonetheless!
@@AlexK-jp9nc "Ahh, you see, these competitors certainly didn't bring their A game today." "Right you are, Jeff. What we're seeing today is rarely used 'Dumbass Pratfall', known for being the most ill-advised opening ever possible."
17:14 NL, you not taking his queen here made me actually gasp aloud. Then I realized taking his queen was impossible and that I was in fact a little stupid. The end.
I know this is way late and you probably wont see it, but around 3:45, the move Kb2 is actually fairly common after a queen side castle. It's just a way to further conceal your king. You play a very passive game so it gives the opponent opportune moments to make small but solid defensive moves
My favorite series right now BY FAR. I hadn't been watching TH-cam stuff for a while, but now with Chess and Slasher's Keep (plus Spelunky and Isaac when I need some nighttime background sound), I'm back in completely.
NL, Creating a battery with your queen and bishop is smart at any level of play. It doesn't have to result in a checkmate(although at low levels it will sometimes) it's more that you are actually threatening something, which means your opponent has to respond, so you gain tempo. Not only that, it's a strong position to move forward from, much stronger than your queen in the middle of the board with nothing else developed and only supported by a single pawn. Especially since your next 2 moves were pawn moves and one of which blocked in your dark square bishop.
I think moving your side pawns up by 1 each would make the computer think "oh no". Basically the opening moves of chess in general are suppose to open up your pawns so that your queen, knights, and bishops can start doing stuff. But if you waste your 1st moves only giving your rooks a one step (and then they're stuck again), then that wouldn't really be helpful.
1:35 This is the correct move, you slide the DSB back in the London so when you take it later, they can open up their rook. That said, they developed their pieces in the wrong order. so it is a little weird.
NL, when you are on the analysis screen, under the best move it gives you there's a move list of best / most common GM responses to that move in the video at 38:29 under the D2 in green theres 20...b6 etc etc. if you click on each of the move numbers it will give you the best moves back and forth for each turn.
With my limited knowledge, I think that missclick on 11:00 was actually glorious. If you took the pawn, he could've took h6 pawn pressuring the qween even more that could probably ended up as checkmate. You can't take the rook because of the checkmate, can't defend with your rooks, can't move the qween. Anyways, that game was amazing to watch.
11:09 The misclick actually protected your pawn. Without it, rook takes h6 and threatens the queen. Queen can’t take because it’s protecting against mate. Just an interesting tidbit.
White: *plays the London, one of the most standard openings ever to the point of sometimes being called boring* NL: I feel like white is off-book here XD Still love the series though. This is awesome to watch! EDIT: okay, the fianchetto queen is very cursed...
@@malthehelgren188 I was talking about Qg2 at 28:25 That little house of three pawns on the kingside is a very common formation in chess. It is usually used to put the bishop on the longest diagonal without exposing it to danger (g2 or g7 but you can also sometimes see this on b2 and b7). This specific development (developing means improving the position of) of the bishop is called a fianchetto. NL on the other hand, shoved his queen into there, effectively demoting it to a bishop since it had no way of using its usual mobility surrounded by all of those pawns.
@@Pyronar I don't know how good i am at chess but i feel like he had a good opportunity of threatening exactly the diagonal attack he said wouldn't work if he moved the bishop to d3 instead of e2 previously so they couldn't do the pawn move he was scared of which made him retreat the queen because they'd just get mated
If someone hasnt already said this, I think theres a setting for how pieces move, either click the piece and click to move, click-and-drag, or both. You should definitely have it set to click and drag only because it seems like all of your misclicks are from you accidentally clicking when having a piece selected
The reason the knight move is innaccurate at 37:28 is because it quite simply violates opening principles. "Don't move the same piece twice in the opening" and at 37:28, you move your knight twice and then trade it for your opponents knight's second move. Such a trade would be fine if it improved your queen, but as she is not significantly better on D5 then E5, it would be advisable to instead improve your minor pieces, or attack the center as stockfish suggests
Question for the viewership on these videos: Are there more people who don't _really_ understand chess who just like to watch these vids as a relaxing pastime in which they may or may not get some increased understanding of the game? I honestly still feel like I still am that middle school guy who just about knows what all the pieces can do, yet still find the analysis and stuff on these vids just fascinating to watch
The funny part is the misclick was likely a better move in that first game. I'm not going to run it through the engine, but I think taking the pawn would have resulted in Rxh6, reclaiming a pawn and attacking NL's queen. The queen would not be able to capture because of the checkmate threat. Rd7 defended that critical pawn on b7, freeing the queen. I'm not saying it's the best move in the position. It's still probably questionable, but I think taking the pawn would actually be worse.
@@Pyronar Ha yeah I noticed that too. Queen couldn't defend anything attacked by Black's rook, because it had to guard against mate. Bringing the rook back double guarded the b7 pawn. However the rook was itself then unguarded and Black's queen attacked it next move, so the other rook might have been a better option.
@@evilishies Maybe. I would have probably just played b6 instead. As long as it's not isolated, pushing the pawn one step is often the most reasonable response to a vertical attack. I haven't spent too long considering it though. Also I assume you mean white instead of black.
I understand how the analysis comes to its conclusions, however interpretation of them doesn’t have to be so black/white. Your bB2 move was a “mistake” that was a real master stroke in understanding your opponents next move. It ultimately gave the advantage that you never let go of. Great play.
Hey NL I doubt you read TH-cam comments but I'm a long time fan and this series is amazing, please don't stop the chess content. It would be really cool to see how far you can improve over time and I enjoy the analysis! It's totally different to some of the other master level chess channels I watch, in a good way.
Putting the dark bishop on G3 is a well known strategy in the London system (and actually a move I play a lot). The idea is to open the rook and castle queen side, many inexperienced players will castle short with black giving some very easy attacking chances with rook, queen and knight. Also, in the words of ben finegold, "always play king B1" when castling queen side. It's a very good prophylactic move for long term safety of both king and A pawn.
Have to say NL's chess commentary is among the best in the world. Highly entertaining. This is the level to pitch chess e-sport commentary and analysis; to bring along average players but with an above-average insight. Major tournaments need an injection of Canadian charisma. I will forgive blunders but never awkwardness.
"I think we just checkmated them" - Northernlion 2020 after coming back from depths of hell and reminding his opponent that Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
love the dankest dungeon ref!
Le trolle
That first guy had a dominating advantage. He was terrible
Slowly, gently, this is how a king is mated.
Imagine sending a troll face in a chess game you haven't won, you're just askin for trouble
I can't wait for the day the misclick is the true game winner.
I don't need it to be a game winner, I just want the computer to call a misclick a best move.
Wait a second wasnt the missclick the first game actually a good play?
His misclick was actually a better move than what he was gonna do lol
@@lucasnadamas9317 yes it was a very good accidental move
@@lucasnadamas9317 it was a good move indeed - it prevented a tactic that he wouldn't have seen otherwise
"oops" and just like that, a new astronaut breaks his way through the salt-o-sphere.
His opponent hit him with a trollface...SO HE HIT HIM BACK WITH THE DUB
My life is merely floating through the void until my soul collides with a new nl chess video
You might need help. lul
@@HighLanderPonyYT He does not. This series has ended conflicts and wars, the sheer pog is enough for a Nobel peace prize.
@@NoctanNights The videos are fine, what's concerning is the drifting lifestyle till they hit a video. I wasn't too cereal, anyway.
Smth smth Pog your gourds.
@@HighLanderPonyYT what are jokes?
When doing key moments or analysis, when somebody makes a mistake, look at the computer suggested REPLY to the mistake (green arrow on the next move) to understand why the move was a mistake. The first game analysis you didn't realize your h7 pawn was hanging, so both you and your opponent kept making mistakes by not taking/protecting h7, but you didn't realize that's what the computer was trying to tell you. Good chess content nonetheless!
This is *way* better feedback than "don't do key moments as much" imo.
@@newsoupvialt btbf key moments is not as good as seeing what the best move was in each situation.
Who named all these moves, like you'll just be moving pieces randomly and stockfish will say that you did the penguin of d00ms gambit
I write it off by saying chess is old and the decision tree in the first 5 moves is small enough to give a name to everything
@@AlexK-jp9nc "Ahh, you see, these competitors certainly didn't bring their A game today."
"Right you are, Jeff. What we're seeing today is rarely used 'Dumbass Pratfall', known for being the most ill-advised opening ever possible."
@@guywithpasta9824 this actually has a name and it's called scholar's mate.
(good meme though)
@@tracyh5751 Nah the fastest checkmate is actually called the Fool's mate
@@peiceofcheese87 these are synonyms.
At first I was kinda sad fall guys wasn’t being posted, but this has become my favorite daily series!
Slashers keep is getting pogger all the time too
I'm just sad he didn't record(?) / post more of his show. I mean it was literally his show.. 😟
Fall Guys season 2 killed it
I miss Monster Train :/
I like how he reads "There is only one good move. Retry to find it?" slightly wrong in different ways everytime.
Turn 15: "I feel like we're off-book"
Last book move: turn 1
Biggest surprise of 2020 is that chess is apparently my favourite video game now. Unimaginable levels of G A M I N G
It's been a classic longer than Tetris.
@@Wertsir Speaking of which, its even more surprising that my most pogalicious series rn are Tetris and Chess between CTWC and NL
I'd be scared to have NL as my commanding officer. He's always ready to trade.
key moments - I sleep
going through analysis - I pog
Proud to admit that I was refreshing yt to watch this video when it came out
Thanks for the pogs
Hey, haven’t we all brother.
hey NL we like to see the analysis because it shows your opponent's mistakes and such as well :)
HOW TO STOP THE MIS-CLICKS:
I'm pretty sure there is a setting that makes dragging the piece the only way to move it. Do some investigating on that.
If I turn on that setting, the click method STILL WORKS AND I AM SO MAD ABOUT THAT
Unfortunately only on lichess, as far as I'm aware. Chess.com's setting changes the visual response but still allows both options to be used.
@matacusa lichess is superior
just don't drag the pieces for nothing.
@@winser21 Hard agree. Though since NL's paying for premium both are pretty good either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
chess dot com: that move was inaccurate, you could've done a little better
NL: This was considered a MASSIVE BLUNDER
poggest moment of the day
18:23
Middle aged father Northern “Misclick” Lion partakes in revenge after beating resinous chess player luicarlo,
December 4th, 2020 (Colorized)
Lucario*
The troll face BM had my thirst for blood at a record high; thank you Eggfather for delivering swift appeasement.
We are playing against Lucario - my favorite line of the video.
17:14
NL, you not taking his queen here made me actually gasp aloud. Then I realized taking his queen was impossible and that I was in fact a little stupid.
The end.
As per Thor in Infinity War when entering Wakanda to much hype, “Bring me Gotham Chess and Egg Father Collab!”
That would be nuts beyond pog
I'll be honest I thought he was gonna somehow make a trollface with the chess pieces.
@18:20 BMing mid game in an online chess match just to end up getting mated. You love to see it. 🤣
"just weird. this is a just weird situation"
literally textbook london system.
never change NL. never change
Just because it's textbook doesn't mean it's not weird, though
My thoughts exactly.
20:44 the pawn g6 is good because it prevents the queen to go to f5, because that's when you blundered your bishop.
That first game had me on the edge of my seat. Really great gameplay. Please keep this series going!
When you’re dragging a piece you can right click to cancel and put the piece on its origin square.
my mans madcatzes every other game and yet the comedic timing is so strong that he still manages get the dub if it would make for a funnier video.
Dude it’s been so long since I’ve heard madcatz that’s a classic
I know this is way late and you probably wont see it, but around 3:45, the move Kb2 is actually fairly common after a queen side castle. It's just a way to further conceal your king. You play a very passive game so it gives the opponent opportune moments to make small but solid defensive moves
"The muscles are coming back" I'm sure it's not going to bite him in the arse
I'm so happy to have chess back on the channel again, love this series to death, please keep it around!
i don't know why you'd not like key moments. it gives better analysis than "good move, good move, bad move"
My favorite series right now BY FAR. I hadn't been watching TH-cam stuff for a while, but now with Chess and Slasher's Keep (plus Spelunky and Isaac when I need some nighttime background sound), I'm back in completely.
"I dont understand the move King to B1"
*Gets forked for not doing the same*
I love it when NL just roasts his bishops.
NL, Creating a battery with your queen and bishop is smart at any level of play. It doesn't have to result in a checkmate(although at low levels it will sometimes) it's more that you are actually threatening something, which means your opponent has to respond, so you gain tempo. Not only that, it's a strong position to move forward from, much stronger than your queen in the middle of the board with nothing else developed and only supported by a single pawn. Especially since your next 2 moves were pawn moves and one of which blocked in your dark square bishop.
Hey chat, is there a chess opening where the website will just be like "The 'What have you done' Opening: Pog In Four Version"
Yes. 1. E4 then no matter what your opponent plays you play 2. K-E2
No.
I think moving your side pawns up by 1 each would make the computer think "oh no".
Basically the opening moves of chess in general are suppose to open up your pawns so that your queen, knights, and bishops can start doing stuff. But if you waste your 1st moves only giving your rooks a one step (and then they're stuck again), then that wouldn't really be helpful.
Bongcloud?
@@tracyeldred8355 bong cloud is legal in canada
this will always make me pog out more than even watching magnus play blindfolded
1:35 This is the correct move, you slide the DSB back in the London so when you take it later, they can open up their rook. That said, they developed their pieces in the wrong order. so it is a little weird.
I love how, without fail, he calls every game strange. I guess that’s part of the fun of chess.
NL, when you are on the analysis screen, under the best move it gives you there's a move list of best / most common GM responses to that move in the video at 38:29 under the D2 in green theres 20...b6 etc etc. if you click on each of the move numbers it will give you the best moves back and forth for each turn.
i really like this chess series youve been doing. Your breakdowns are fun to listen to and i look forward to more episodes.
finally managed to climb myself out of 900 into the 1000's. Love watching your vids with chess NL.
With my limited knowledge, I think that missclick on 11:00 was actually glorious. If you took the pawn, he could've took h6 pawn pressuring the qween even more that could probably ended up as checkmate. You can't take the rook because of the checkmate, can't defend with your rooks, can't move the qween. Anyways, that game was amazing to watch.
Watching this while buzzed might NOT be the best idea or it might be THE best, we shall see
God, that troll face vengeance was so satisfying!
NL bringing out the SOLID FUNDAMENTALS and NEVER GIVING UP, allowing him to come back and crush the troll. Very pogged.
A troll face has never felt so right.
11:09 The misclick actually protected your pawn. Without it, rook takes h6 and threatens the queen. Queen can’t take because it’s protecting against mate. Just an interesting tidbit.
NL, you stop the misclicks by using arrows instead of moving the piece when you're planning
The misclick saved him from losing instantly
Oh good, A day with chess and I thought I would die of lack of pog! Gald to see it has not been canceled!
Nobody:
Northernlion: 17:24
😂 this is why I love this channel 😂
NL Chess is the best thing to happen in 2020, I'm so happy you are enjoying the game and the community is loving it (And not being annoying :))!
GRACIAS
Give us this day our daily Pogs and forgive our WeirdChamps as we forgive those who WeirdChamp against us 🙏
Clicking on the opponent's king is a failsafe way to cancel a move cause it's never going to be legal to take it
White: *plays the London, one of the most standard openings ever to the point of sometimes being called boring*
NL: I feel like white is off-book here
XD
Still love the series though. This is awesome to watch!
EDIT: okay, the fianchetto queen is very cursed...
I'm trying to learn the terms. The 'fianchetto queen' is 10.Qe7 at 2:55 right?
@@malthehelgren188 I was talking about Qg2 at 28:25 That little house of three pawns on the kingside is a very common formation in chess. It is usually used to put the bishop on the longest diagonal without exposing it to danger (g2 or g7 but you can also sometimes see this on b2 and b7). This specific development (developing means improving the position of) of the bishop is called a fianchetto. NL on the other hand, shoved his queen into there, effectively demoting it to a bishop since it had no way of using its usual mobility surrounded by all of those pawns.
@@Pyronar Aahh, yes, I see. That makes sense now. Thank you
@@Pyronar I don't know how good i am at chess but i feel like he had a good opportunity of threatening exactly the diagonal attack he said wouldn't work if he moved the bishop to d3 instead of e2 previously so they couldn't do the pawn move he was scared of which made him retreat the queen because they'd just get mated
"Le troll"
That first game has me pogged out of my gourd
If someone hasnt already said this, I think theres a setting for how pieces move, either click the piece and click to move, click-and-drag, or both. You should definitely have it set to click and drag only because it seems like all of your misclicks are from you accidentally clicking when having a piece selected
luikarlo: GRACIAS
Northernlion ten 5 minutes later: HE SAID GRACIAS!
The knight in game 1 wasn't trapped, btw. c5 hits the white rook with the pawn and simultaneously opens c6 for the knight. Nice trick to remember.
That first game was the most satisfying win I've seen!
The sheer amount of pog this series is bringing oh my god
To the left of the columns you can click in the blank space off the bored to cancel your moves.
Winning a match after being sent a troll face. True pog.
Oh good. You didn't post a chess video yesterday and I was worried it wasn't popular enough for you to continue it. incredible content.
The reason the knight move is innaccurate at 37:28 is because it quite simply violates opening principles. "Don't move the same piece twice in the opening" and at 37:28, you move your knight twice and then trade it for your opponents knight's second move. Such a trade would be fine if it improved your queen, but as she is not significantly better on D5 then E5, it would be advisable to instead improve your minor pieces, or attack the center as stockfish suggests
Question for the viewership on these videos: Are there more people who don't _really_ understand chess who just like to watch these vids as a relaxing pastime in which they may or may not get some increased understanding of the game? I honestly still feel like I still am that middle school guy who just about knows what all the pieces can do, yet still find the analysis and stuff on these vids just fascinating to watch
Analysis: Your enemy had a missed win opportunity
NL: questionable move
Pogged up for more chess content
I’ve enjoyed very few things as much as I enjoyed you hitting that guy with the troll faces at the end.
You didn't understand Kb1 in the first game, but it was precisely to avoid the kind of shenanigans that lost you a piece
Key moments + analysis is the real good stuff
most satisfying dub ive ever seen, sit yourself luikarlo
Here's how you avoid misclicks: Don't pick up the piece until you’re confident in your move.
The funny part is the misclick was likely a better move in that first game. I'm not going to run it through the engine, but I think taking the pawn would have resulted in Rxh6, reclaiming a pawn and attacking NL's queen. The queen would not be able to capture because of the checkmate threat. Rd7 defended that critical pawn on b7, freeing the queen. I'm not saying it's the best move in the position. It's still probably questionable, but I think taking the pawn would actually be worse.
@@Pyronar Ha yeah I noticed that too. Queen couldn't defend anything attacked by Black's rook, because it had to guard against mate. Bringing the rook back double guarded the b7 pawn. However the rook was itself then unguarded and Black's queen attacked it next move, so the other rook might have been a better option.
@@evilishies Maybe. I would have probably just played b6 instead. As long as it's not isolated, pushing the pawn one step is often the most reasonable response to a vertical attack. I haven't spent too long considering it though. Also I assume you mean white instead of black.
This is my favorite series since the Super Mega Baseball 3 content. I hope chess is a regular part of the rotation for a long time!
NL's biggest enemy 🖱️
if you want to cancel a move after you've selected a piece, I'm pretty sure mouse right-click is the hero you seek
Love the Series!
Edit: the taunt to body was 10/10
NL: Let's get weird
NL: *Blunders*
I understand how the analysis comes to its conclusions, however interpretation of them doesn’t have to be so black/white. Your bB2 move was a “mistake” that was a real master stroke in understanding your opponents next move. It ultimately gave the advantage that you never let go of. Great play.
Hey NL I doubt you read TH-cam comments but I'm a long time fan and this series is amazing, please don't stop the chess content. It would be really cool to see how far you can improve over time and I enjoy the analysis! It's totally different to some of the other master level chess channels I watch, in a good way.
Oh baby it's here.
Was about to start yelling at my screen if you didn't take the rook at 17:58
Putting the dark bishop on G3 is a well known strategy in the London system (and actually a move I play a lot).
The idea is to open the rook and castle queen side, many inexperienced players will castle short with black giving some very easy attacking chances with rook, queen and knight.
Also, in the words of ben finegold, "always play king B1" when castling queen side. It's a very good prophylactic move for long term safety of both king and A pawn.
Have to say NL's chess commentary is among the best in the world. Highly entertaining. This is the level to pitch chess e-sport commentary and analysis; to bring along average players but with an above-average insight. Major tournaments need an injection of Canadian charisma. I will forgive blunders but never awkwardness.
The misclick for a move that was actually better than the ones he considered was top pog.
18:30 Problem? 🚎
Protect the pawn. Then doesnt protect the pawn
“I feel like white is off-book” says NL who just invented an aggro London system
that first game was the best thing i've ever seen
It's true what they say, there are no mates in a game of chess.
I certainly like the full circle into no key moments meta.
Eggman back at it with the fabled misclick tactic.
I like the analysis tab a lot more than the key moments tab
So Northernlion Chess is something I'll be watching from now on. Good