I've always liked to keep the chalk in my pocket when playing. I was forever having to wipe my hands and cue in the middle of frames and over time I've ruined plenty of jeans pocket. I've been using the light green Taom chalk for over a year now and it looks barely used. Saved a fortune on jeans.
I went from triangle to taom light green I like it for the same reasons although it does seem prone to the odd miscue,and it lasts a very long time you don’t need to put any pressure on the tip when chalking so tips last longer to👍
Thanks very much for that Steve. I like the look of the new chalk and will get some. I usually do a lot of straight cueing practice routines at my club which leaves big streaks with the triangle chalk..so the Taom looks a better choice :)
I have been using this chalk for 6 months. I highly recommend it. Even cueing off the Rail I have never Miscued once. Keeping the table clea in the club is a must for me as I do clean 4 tables. So a vested I Teresa really. But,, like you have said,, it needs both players to use it. I am forever swiping the table before and after shots,,it makes no difference, They will never change,, Silly really when my chalk has lasted 6 months and is hardly been excessive wear on the round block. It is expensive, yes,, but I think I will never go back to Dirty Chalk ever again. I chalk every time I cue up . If you do forget, I have tried,,lol... it still lasts at least 3/4 times and never miscued. Would highly recommend the change. Balls are clean as well..100% Happy.
I`m not using the new chalk yet but the only downside for this new chalk is to make sure you use it for every shot more than the old or you get miss cues, i have to keep cleaning my cloth and having many kicks specially on colder days or damp and also the cue gets alot of chalk over the feral & where your bridge hand goes, for the price its worth it to help stop many kicks on positional shots too , great video!
I use this chalk I've had mine about a year and it is less than a sixth of the stick used. The triangle stuff lasted about 6 months per block, playing 4 times per week. I also had to chalk the cue less. I've had one miss cue in the time I have used it and that was because I hadn't chalked the cue for more than 30 shots.
On a snooker table I don't think it's a problem because of the nap. The bigger particles rest in the nap and hide, if that makes any sense. Bigger problem on a pool cloth where there is no nap.
It certainly will create a jump on the opposite direction of the nap..I would imagine the cloth becoming too compact if not cleaned properly, and brushing might not do the job, also adding any unnecessary moisture to the cloth from clayish chalk must impact the cloth...15 quid.. Humpty bumpty
Mark Williams was upset with all the kicks that were occurring when he was not allowed to use his taom chalk because the tournament was sponsored by another chalk manufacturer.
i'm still using the light green one with shiny bits in it, it really stays on the tip and i find that i dont need to chalk the tip as much as the shiny bits acts like a piece of sand paper and kind of digs into the tip so the chalk stays better
Wouldn’t you want a finer powder in the cloth instead of chunks? I thought this was an expose but then you recommended it after you showed it does leave larger particles on the table.
I used this chalk before, but I changed back to Triangle Pro Chalk because brushing the chalk mark of the table helps me calm & focus. I don't know this is the correct idea, the correct mindset.
I've been using the Taom chalk in the gold wrapping and it's very good. The only problem I've found is, to get back spin, I need to make sure I don't hit the cue ball too low and I need a bit more power. Otherwise if I aim low, I'm knocking someone out with the cue ball. 🤣
I just wonder why the pros are now using the dark blue colored Pyro Chalk, as that is designed for Pool, which normally has blue cloth. Taom has always had one for pool and snooker of the same series. 2.0 has light green and light blue, Can't remember if they had 1.0 (or whatever they called it) but if they did, they had it as well. And now they have the Pyro and the Soft chalk, Soft having a light green color and gold wrap. They did use the Soft chalk abit some time ago but now they are all using the Pyro. Why?
try the Kamui 0.98 beta chalk in green this is next gen in terms of performance you have more grip and chalk far less often consistency is soft and cakey unsure if its chalk or completely different material however residue may be an issue although you do not need as much for significantly more shots cheers buddy very interesting the blue does not show on green and no kicks being cakey i thought it would stick more to balls
Kamui chalk is garbage, it leaves marked all over the cue ball and table. It also discouraged chalking which IMO is a good pre-shot routine to keep you on pace vs. rushing through shots.
have you noticed the larger "chunks" of chalk from the taom affecting the roll of the balls going over it? As opposed the to fine powder left behind from the triangle chalk?
No. The "chucks" are actually so small they just get squashed by the weight of the ball. You don't really even notice the chalk at all, I've just zoomed right in with the camera. So even the "large" chucks are very, very small.
My very good friend bought me some of this it's still in my case I have only used triangle chalk all my days I think it feels softer when applying on the tip rather than this stuff feels more clay like but I will be using it as it was a present 😁 have a great Christmas you and the family Barton 🎅
Examples : look at hawkins before taom, and after. He was crap at backspin (he pokes, doesnt drive through it) so on poor deliveries, which chalk he used didn't bloody matter. Poor cueists will get misscues. Ive used Taom, and Kamui Roku atm. Roku might have slightly more grip (misscue at a certain point, seems more tolerant to deepscrews) but I like both chalks. If people still get misscues with the Roku or 2.0 , it's time to look inwards, and see where your cueaction is flawed.
I use this chalk all the time now. To me it appears to have a slightly OILY,feel to it. I don't think it's water mate,I think it would dry out.. But it doesn't matter,,The reason maybe the slightly larger Specs, Could be due to it holding the Tip better, but dies build up on the Tip, Drys off as it isnt the chalk cube.. perhaps a Pricking now and again would taken the dried off chalk, And create even Less Bits coming off the Tip Does this make sense.😃
i have been waiting for a video for a long time and none have uploaded on youtube " HEAD POSITION" like twisting head, tipping. i cannot find my vision centre and i think it has to do with my head position. please cover this video ASAP as there is not a single video on youtube about this topic tnx
Hey Steve great video I have watched a few of these videos and it is interesting to see in other videos that you will find you can play about 5 shots if you wanted to before Re chalking the cue ...it is almost a pre shot habit routine to chalk every shot however it seems this is now unnecessary I really like the triangle Pro Chalk I think the tip on the cue can also affect how well the chalk takes to the tip Stay safe
I’ve also been using Taom for about 8 months. I have my own table and play about 1 hour every day and about 2-3 at the weekends. I’d never go back. I have the same piece and it’s got at least as much time again of life left in it. Love it.
John Higgins and a few other players rave about it, I don't understand what's the difference and why so long it has taken. Apparantly it prevents kicks?
My opinion after using the same one for a good 6 to 8 months at least: 1-I play and practice for about 10 hours every week and it's used for about 15% to 20% so it's definitely extremely durable. 2-Very rare kicks and miscues. 3-As you said it does leave extremely small chunks on the cloth, but never big enough to impact balls trajectory, so not an issue at all. 4-Sorry to correct you Steve, but the light green one is not a past version, especially now that Taom currently sells snooker chalk 2.0 in that color. In fact, they sell many versions for pool or snooker. The pyro one is kind of an all-in-one version. The one I got is light green snooker chalk 2.0. Botton line: I absolutely love it and will never go back to either Master or Triangle! taombilliards.com/shop
Ah ok! Thank you Stéphane. I didn't realise the green one was still a current version. Also, thanks a lot for the feedback on how long it lasts. That's great to know. Good to know you've had a good experience with it too. Valuable feedback 👍
@@BartonSnooker You're very welcome Steve. I'm telling you mate, get yourself one you're gonna love it. In fact, maybe you want to try the ones that relates specifically to snooker so that you identify the one that suits you best!!
I love this chalk and got to use it with Steve on my lesson but my first shot I took I had a massive kick. 😂. I don't think you're ever gonna get rid of kicks and bad contacts but I do hate the green chalk how it gets everywhere and I always end up blowing the tip of my cue cause it feels like there is too much chalk on there.
mixing chalk has weird effects imo after a few hours that can change , same with first shots i feel like static or charge and atmospheric effects like layers of condensation disappear after balls have run for a bit. When using new block of chalk even same manufacturers i think its important to get rid of old chalk or develop a skin with new before competition.
If you only play once a week or so then I can imagine this chalk lasting a very long time! I'd love to see a video on elbow positioning and how important you think it is. So I often feel like mine flares out a bit and may be the cause of not hitting the white as intended.
I play matches and practice at least 3-4 times a week. I’ve been using the same piece of Taom 2.0 chalk for almost a year now, you literally only have to brush it on the tip and because of its clay like texture it fully covers the tip. I could potentially play 3 shots before I need to chalk again, baring in mind if you’re striking below centre I would advise chalking beforehand.
I take my own set of balls to the club and using Master and Triangle chalk I get the odd stubborn chalk mark on the cue ball and occasionally on some of the other balls. Would using this Taom chalk reduce or eliminate these? Would cut down time spent cleaning the balls before each session if it does. Loving the videos.
Give it a go John. I think it would definitely help. If it doesn't, you've spent £15. See how you get on. I love the stuff now and I'm not a gadget or gimmick person at all, but this does the job.
@@BartonSnooker I probably will. Just need to know when I'll next be able to play as the club is shut due to being in tier 4. They were open when we were in tier 2 but they said with the lack of alcohol sales it's just not viable to open again until we're in tier 1. Could be months the way things are going.
My take, for what it's worth. I would save your money and stick to triangle or master chalk. Taom at around £15 is simply over priced. Whilst it may work on new cloths or if you are lucky enough to have your own table, but for club tables which are played on by many different players, the chalk gets embedded into the cloth and no amount of using taom will stop you getting kicks on an older cloth. I clean tables at my club and am very thorough. Conditions and atmospherics are far more bigger causes for kicks and cushion bounces.
Hi Matt, I agree with everything you've said. On club tables and conditions where people aren't mostly using the Taom chalk, there will be next to no benefit. I must admit I do like the fact that I don't feel like I have to wipe the table after every screw shot. But it's a lot of money to pay just for that 😄
Totally agree Steve, I remember you from the snooker forum years ago, you as tedisbill, I'm cueman. We had a few private messages I sort of remember you asking for advice on how to improve. Nice to see you doing well and becoming a coach. Keep up the good work on your channel 👍
@@mattw4838 ah yes! I remember you well. Yeah, I've been on a long journey since The Snooker Forum days. Thanks so much for the support and watching the videos, it's much appreciated.
This week I bought Taom Soft, but it hasn't arrived yet. There is some difference between Soft and Pyro or just the color. I saw Kyren, Neil, Higgins using Pyro, but I didn't see anyone using Soft. Is Pyro better than Soft?
I read that the first Taom had some problems and that these new ones (Pyro, Soft and 2.0) solved the problems. I hope that's it and that I didn't buy the wrong chalk :)
@@jama211 source of Williams's comment on this? would like to hear it, because intuitively @Nigel's question makes a lot of sense to me. although now that i think of it i could imagine that firstly the toam 'clumps' are too small to affect travel in any measurable way, and then also that while normal chalk trails will not 'knock' a ball of course, it would interfere with judging the cue ball path. a spinning cue ball would definitely behave differently when its crossing over a section of cloth where chalk is affecting the friction coefficient, the question is just how much. *edit=typo
I’ve tried both. I play pool and the snooker chalk works much better. I prefer the 1.0 version but the 2.0 works just as well. I just like the 1.0 since it is more gritty and I like the sound. When I started using the pyro is when I started getting kicks again
All information considered, if the chalk's only benefit is purely to keep the table streak-free, can anyone out there justify the price tag on this stuff??
Having used this chalk for an extended period now, the benefits are: 1) clean table 2) no kicks The chalk also lasts well over a year with regular play. So it doesn't work out expensive at all.
I believe it's good chalk, but for me as a normal club player there are other things to improve first, and I don't like to support companies who are trying to rip off their customers. The price is way too high for chalk. Although on professional level every small thing matters. It's also good to keep the table clean.
Yeah you're right. It all comes down to what important for the individual. It's a lot of money, and won't give any improvement in terms of you playing the game. It's purely just to keep my table to a high standard for longer, so it's worth it for me. If you're just playing down a club, it doesn't matter.
Doesn't go all over you're hands either and it lasts for ages had mine over a year.I think it is a disadvantage for pros that use it when their opponent doesn't because the opponent will be more used to the wierd bounces and contact's and chalk all over the table.
those specs can change the direction of the ball. they are that big of a lumps. I though there was something weird about the hype, and those lumps are a good enough reason to pass this product. It might create a better friction, but the chalk is forming game altering boulders of gipsum. Nope.
They're very very soft pieces of chalk. The weight of the ball would just crush them absolutely no problem. Also remember my camera is zoomed right in, so they look bigger on video than they actually are. As I say, I couldn't even notice them at all at first. I'm not telling anyone to get this chalk, it's ok for keeping the table clean, but that's it really. But the little specs of chalk would do nothing to the direction a balls goes in, they're just way to soft and small.
@@BartonSnooker Not at speed on a U.S pool table, no. I've played on tables that resemble more a gravel road than a pool table, but a snooker ball is so small, and the fast cloth is so smooth, that those particles will come to play. Just when you need a slow, smooth, accurate shot, a henge of chalk appears on your path. a flash of dust makes almost no difference. It can alter your massé, but not much else. And then again, cleaning the table is not just for the looks. It's to maintain a fair, even playground for both players. Hiding these clay pebbles under a color is unsportsmanlike behavior. Soft at first, but clay nevertheless. when the softening compound is evaporated they are hard as rocks. And any particle that comes in contat wih a rolling ball, has an effect on the ball's directory. Can that alteration change the result of the shot? Absolutely yes. Laws of physics and math cannot be denied.
@@oikkuoek disagree with you there bud. Logically sounds right but you are making some assumptions to validate your logic. But at the end of the day if the trajectory of the ball was materially affected in the pro game don't you think they would have called it out by now just like kicks? They have 4 and 8 frame sessions on superfine cloths under studio (drying) lights and they play plenty soft shots and are far more fussy about conditions.
Dont mean to be picky and do love your stuff. However your table surround is in dire need of a sanding and polishing. Looks like somebody with keys on a belt or a belt buckle have been scratching it.
The price seems abusive. The only comparison that is made is with the original Triangle chalk, but my feeling is that the Triangle Pro is a great improvement on the original. In any case, I suspect Taom chalk is the best chalk available and if it eliminates miscues then it will allow you to play better, although only marginally. For me it is only the cost that stops me buying: I don't like being had.
If you play in a club like most of us 1. You won't care whether there are marks on the club table (not as if you are not going to brush it when you finish your game anyway) and 2. £15 vs 50p is an absolute rort. I'd bet with the increased demand they could sell more and make more money lowering the price which in turn would increase demand again. You see where I'm going with this? There is obviously a price point v profit
@@alecspyrou2134 I brush and nap before every session regardless, I respect the tables even though others don't. I find masters grips the ball fractionally better than triangle although the peradon Pro is even better but at 2.50 a block its pricey. Also the very fact that if both players aren't using the taom it negates the kicks and miscues unless I use it in practice I don't see the justification of 15 nicker! And yes I see your point re pricing/demand but they're cornering the market.
@@qstar6407 I also brush and block before and after. Unless Taom lasts 30 times more than Triangle then we can't use the length of time Taom lasts for as a positive. So all that remains is less kicks. I believe there is lots of chalk out there that will reduce kicks at a fraction of the cost of Taom
I've always liked to keep the chalk in my pocket when playing. I was forever having to wipe my hands and cue in the middle of frames and over time I've ruined plenty of jeans pocket. I've been using the light green Taom chalk for over a year now and it looks barely used. Saved a fortune on jeans.
I use this chalk, had mine for 8 months so far and it’s still going strong, really surprised about how long it lasts.
Thats because you haven't been able to play through lockdown
@@ahhahahaha12321434e2 🤣 would be helpful to know how much Dan's *used* it for sure.
How u get it
I went from triangle to taom light green I like it for the same reasons although it does seem prone to the odd miscue,and it lasts a very long time you don’t need to put any pressure on the tip when chalking so tips last longer to👍
Thanks very much for that Steve. I like the look of the new chalk and will get some. I usually do a lot of straight cueing practice routines at my club which leaves big streaks with the triangle chalk..so the Taom looks a better choice :)
Now THERE'S a concrete reason that resonates with me! Thankyou
I have been using this chalk for 6 months.
I highly recommend it.
Even cueing off the Rail I have never Miscued once.
Keeping the table clea in the club is a must for me as I do clean 4 tables. So a vested I Teresa really.
But,, like you have said,, it needs both players to use it.
I am forever swiping the table before and after shots,,it makes no difference, They will never change,, Silly really when my chalk has lasted 6 months and is hardly been excessive wear on the round block. It is expensive, yes,, but I think I will never go back to Dirty Chalk ever again.
I chalk every time I cue up .
If you do forget, I have tried,,lol... it still lasts at least 3/4 times and never miscued.
Would highly recommend the change. Balls are clean as well..100% Happy.
Been using this for over a year now, best chalk
I`m not using the new chalk yet but the only downside for this new chalk is to make sure you use it for every shot more than the old or you get miss cues, i have to keep cleaning my cloth and having many kicks specially on colder days or damp and also the cue gets alot of chalk over the feral & where your bridge hand goes, for the price its worth it to help stop many kicks on positional shots too , great video!
that's a very valuable review for snooker enthusiasts. Thanks
I'am using Taom 2.0 atm. Greetings from Finland and happy holidays!
I tried Taom 2.0 , it was good, but pyro is GREAT.
I love this chalk, well worth the extra money. I won’t use Master on my home table ever again, it makes a complete mess comparatively
I use this chalk I've had mine about a year and it is less than a sixth of the stick used. The triangle stuff lasted about 6 months per block, playing 4 times per week. I also had to chalk the cue less. I've had one miss cue in the time I have used it and that was because I hadn't chalked the cue for more than 30 shots.
What about the dust fall from the chalk troubling the ball potting?
On a snooker table I don't think it's a problem because of the nap. The bigger particles rest in the nap and hide, if that makes any sense. Bigger problem on a pool cloth where there is no nap.
It certainly will create a jump on the opposite direction of the nap..I would imagine the cloth becoming too compact if not cleaned properly, and brushing might not do the job, also adding any unnecessary moisture to the cloth from clayish chalk must impact the cloth...15 quid.. Humpty bumpty
Mark Williams was upset with all the kicks that were occurring when he was not allowed to use his taom chalk because the tournament was sponsored by another chalk manufacturer.
Sorry but in which century was that? there isn't any single pro tournament on the tour sponsored by a chalk manufacturer.
Proofs?
Love how the chalk is morphing under the movement compensation of your camera at 0:11 and 0:25 :-) Great review as well, thanks!
Yeah ha! It was the added video stabilisation during editing that did it. Thanks for watching 🙂
It's alive!!
Please make a video about table cleaning and how to maintain the table for long periods.
i'm still using the light green one with shiny bits in it, it really stays on the tip and i find that i dont need to chalk the tip as much as the shiny bits acts like a piece of sand paper and kind of digs into the tip so the chalk stays better
Wouldn’t you want a finer powder in the cloth instead of chunks? I thought this was an expose but then you recommended it after you showed it does leave larger particles on the table.
I used this chalk before, but I changed back to Triangle Pro Chalk because brushing the chalk mark of the table helps me calm & focus. I don't know this is the correct idea, the correct mindset.
I've been using the Taom chalk in the gold wrapping and it's very good. The only problem I've found is, to get back spin, I need to make sure I don't hit the cue ball too low and I need a bit more power. Otherwise if I aim low, I'm knocking someone out with the cue ball. 🤣
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Kindly do a review on Titanium ferrule, thanks.
No chalk marks on the table? Bad news for me then as I sometimes use them to help with my cue ball position for the next shot.
I’ve used the blue, not good as it sticks to the white ball, would definitely like to try the green 👍🏼
Love it now u say there is no sponsor 😂, need more ppl like u fela 👍
I just wonder why the pros are now using the dark blue colored Pyro Chalk, as that is designed for Pool, which normally has blue cloth. Taom has always had one for pool and snooker of the same series. 2.0 has light green and light blue, Can't remember if they had 1.0 (or whatever they called it) but if they did, they had it as well. And now they have the Pyro and the Soft chalk, Soft having a light green color and gold wrap. They did use the Soft chalk abit some time ago but now they are all using the Pyro. Why?
I use this chalk for pool. I play about five times a week and mine has lasted almost a year. Definitely worth the investment.
Are there different grades of TAOM chalk - and what's the difference between the green and blue versions?
try the Kamui 0.98 beta chalk in green this is next gen in terms of performance
you have more grip and chalk far less often
consistency is soft and cakey unsure if its chalk or completely different material however residue may be an issue although you do not need as much for significantly more shots
cheers buddy very interesting the blue does not show on green and no kicks being cakey i thought it would stick more to balls
Kamui chalk is garbage, it leaves marked all over the cue ball and table. It also discouraged chalking which IMO is a good pre-shot routine to keep you on pace vs. rushing through shots.
have you noticed the larger "chunks" of chalk from the taom affecting the roll of the balls going over it? As opposed the to fine powder left behind from the triangle chalk?
No. The "chucks" are actually so small they just get squashed by the weight of the ball. You don't really even notice the chalk at all, I've just zoomed right in with the camera. So even the "large" chucks are very, very small.
If you forget the regular chalk in your trousers , run it through the washing machine and dryer it gets better in my opinion
My very good friend bought me some of this it's still in my case I have only used triangle chalk all my days I think it feels softer when applying on the tip rather than this stuff feels more clay like but I will be using it as it was a present 😁 have a great Christmas you and the family Barton 🎅
It's good stuff! Thanks and have a good Christmas too 😃🎄
The blue pyro is the best in taom range!
Examples : look at hawkins before taom, and after. He was crap at backspin (he pokes, doesnt drive through it) so on poor deliveries, which chalk he used didn't bloody matter. Poor cueists will get misscues. Ive used Taom, and Kamui Roku atm. Roku might have slightly more grip (misscue at a certain point, seems more tolerant to deepscrews) but I like both chalks. If people still get misscues with the Roku or 2.0 , it's time to look inwards, and see where your cueaction is flawed.
I use this chalk all the time now.
To me it appears to have a slightly OILY,feel to it.
I don't think it's water mate,I think it would dry out..
But it doesn't matter,,The reason maybe the slightly larger Specs, Could be due to it holding the Tip better, but dies build up on the Tip, Drys off as it isnt the chalk cube..
perhaps a Pricking now and again would taken the dried off chalk, And create even Less Bits coming off the Tip
Does this make sense.😃
and what about your cue ? what brand and model uses you ? thanks
i have been waiting for a video for a long time and none have uploaded on youtube " HEAD POSITION" like twisting head, tipping. i cannot find my vision centre and i think it has to do with my head position. please cover this video ASAP as there is not a single video on youtube about this topic
tnx
tnx mate
Hey Steve great video
I have watched a few of these videos and it is interesting to see in other videos that you will find you can play about 5 shots if you wanted to before Re chalking the cue ...it is almost a pre shot habit routine to chalk every shot however it seems this is now unnecessary
I really like the triangle Pro Chalk
I think the tip on the cue can also affect how well the chalk takes to the tip
Stay safe
As I know, Taom Pyro chalk is mostly done for Pool/Carom and Taom has an especial chalk for Snooker.
The snooker versions work really well for pool.
What's the difference between Pyro and snooker? I play snooker.
I’ve also been using Taom for about 8 months. I have my own table and play about 1 hour every day and about 2-3 at the weekends. I’d never go back. I have the same piece and it’s got at least as much time again of life left in it. Love it.
Good to hear Dave!
John Higgins and a few other players rave about it, I don't understand what's the difference and why so long it has taken. Apparantly it prevents kicks?
Tempted to use this chslk aswell just to save the amounts of blue chalk on my black jeans!
That chalk is awesome! I'm using Taom Pyro aswell. I have used taom pyro for 5 months! 😃
The 2.0 powder blue is great!!
Was there any chalk residue left on the cue ball?
My opinion after using the same one for a good 6 to 8 months at least:
1-I play and practice for about 10 hours every week and it's used for about 15% to 20% so it's definitely extremely durable.
2-Very rare kicks and miscues.
3-As you said it does leave extremely small chunks on the cloth, but never big enough to impact balls trajectory, so not an issue at all.
4-Sorry to correct you Steve, but the light green one is not a past version, especially now that Taom currently sells snooker chalk 2.0 in that color. In fact, they sell many versions for pool or snooker. The pyro one is kind of an all-in-one version. The one I got is light green snooker chalk 2.0.
Botton line: I absolutely love it and will never go back to either Master or Triangle!
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Ah ok! Thank you Stéphane. I didn't realise the green one was still a current version.
Also, thanks a lot for the feedback on how long it lasts. That's great to know. Good to know you've had a good experience with it too. Valuable feedback 👍
@@BartonSnooker You're very welcome Steve. I'm telling you mate, get yourself one you're gonna love it. In fact, maybe you want to try the ones that relates specifically to snooker so that you identify the one that suits you best!!
Hi....
which is the right way to do your tip and which is the right tip we have to use
Thanks and best regards
£15 - Whaaaatttttt? It's a good job I still have my triangle chalk piece from 1982 to use up, I'll get another few years out of that one.
I love this chalk and got to use it with Steve on my lesson but my first shot I took I had a massive kick. 😂.
I don't think you're ever gonna get rid of kicks and bad contacts but I do hate the green chalk how it gets everywhere and I always end up blowing the tip of my cue cause it feels like there is too much chalk on there.
That first kick was the highlight of 2020 for me 😄
mixing chalk has weird effects imo after a few hours that can change , same with first shots i feel like static or charge and atmospheric effects like layers of condensation disappear after balls have run for a bit. When using new block of chalk even same manufacturers i think its important to get rid of old chalk or develop a skin with new before competition.
If you only play once a week or so then I can imagine this chalk lasting a very long time! I'd love to see a video on elbow positioning and how important you think it is. So I often feel like mine flares out a bit and may be the cause of not hitting the white as intended.
I play matches and practice at least 3-4 times a week. I’ve been using the same piece of Taom 2.0 chalk for almost a year now, you literally only have to brush it on the tip and because of its clay like texture it fully covers the tip. I could potentially play 3 shots before I need to chalk again, baring in mind if you’re striking below centre I would advise chalking beforehand.
Sounds like you not standing straight And not close enough to the white for good follow through with the cue.. good luck
I take my own set of balls to the club and using Master and Triangle chalk I get the odd stubborn chalk mark on the cue ball and occasionally on some of the other balls. Would using this Taom chalk reduce or eliminate these? Would cut down time spent cleaning the balls before each session if it does.
Loving the videos.
Give it a go John. I think it would definitely help. If it doesn't, you've spent £15. See how you get on. I love the stuff now and I'm not a gadget or gimmick person at all, but this does the job.
@@BartonSnooker I probably will. Just need to know when I'll next be able to play as the club is shut due to being in tier 4. They were open when we were in tier 2 but they said with the lack of alcohol sales it's just not viable to open again until we're in tier 1. Could be months the way things are going.
@@johnrossiter4895 unfortunately I think you're right John. I think maybe March / April until we see things getting a bit better again.
Hi Steve. Maybe I missed it, but did you chalk up with the Taom before every shot or just once after clearing all the balls? Thank you. Cheers.
The toam v10 is freaking amazing!!!
Is it less prone to miscue’s than the green taom chalk?
Yes I think it is. So far I haven't miscued with it.
My take, for what it's worth. I would save your money and stick to triangle or master chalk. Taom at around £15 is simply over priced. Whilst it may work on new cloths or if you are lucky enough to have your own table, but for club tables which are played on by many different players, the chalk gets embedded into the cloth and no amount of using taom will stop you getting kicks on an older cloth. I clean tables at my club and am very thorough. Conditions and atmospherics are far more bigger causes for kicks and cushion bounces.
Hi Matt,
I agree with everything you've said. On club tables and conditions where people aren't mostly using the Taom chalk, there will be next to no benefit.
I must admit I do like the fact that I don't feel like I have to wipe the table after every screw shot. But it's a lot of money to pay just for that 😄
Totally agree Steve, I remember you from the snooker forum years ago, you as tedisbill, I'm cueman. We had a few private messages I sort of remember you asking for advice on how to improve. Nice to see you doing well and becoming a coach. Keep up the good work on your channel 👍
@@mattw4838 ah yes! I remember you well. Yeah, I've been on a long journey since The Snooker Forum days. Thanks so much for the support and watching the videos, it's much appreciated.
Has your chalk lasted well? I have the green v2
Anyone on here used Russian Magic chalk? Supposed to have a decent reputation. It's around £7 a block.
I have and stopped using it as I found it marked the cue ball a lot. A real pain, off putting and increases the risk of kicks
Those chalk particles look like they could interfere with the line of the ball.
They're very, very soft.
@@BartonSnooker you think that they wouldn't roll the ball off line?
@@geabyrne no. The weight of the ball would just squash them. They are very, very soft.
Who knows, who knows. This needs testing to prove or dispel
Great vid as usual steve👍👍
The pyro is more the american pool rather than snooker you should go with the Taom soft which is much better for snooker!
I'm a snooker player. What's the difference?
I use Triangle Chalk
This week I bought Taom Soft, but it hasn't arrived yet. There is some difference between Soft and Pyro or just the color. I saw Kyren, Neil, Higgins using Pyro, but I didn't see anyone using Soft. Is Pyro better than Soft?
The Pyro is the latest one and I slightly different formula I believe. Seems to get rid of the the miscues that players were bothered about.
I read that the first Taom had some problems and that these new ones (Pyro, Soft and 2.0) solved the problems. I hope that's it and that I didn't buy the wrong chalk :)
What about the golden taom? Isn't that specifically for snooker? Its a bit softer.
Would love to see a video of you play in a tournament
Love the shock horror effect!!
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@@limhanlong4143 Price of $15 per piece
hello I would like to produce a chalk for my very soft use, where can I find ingredients to make it?
Try a chalk quarry
am i just trippin or is the chalk wigglin' by its own 0:14
It's wiggling! The video stabilisation didn't work very well and made the chalk wiggle 😁
Does anyone know why Ronnie used chalk on table as a guide?
I really need this video 😍😍😍
If the chalk leaves clumps rather than a fine powder would the clumps knock the ball off line?
I would say no, if anything normal chalk trails are worse for it. Just ask Mark Williams.
@@jama211 source of Williams's comment on this? would like to hear it, because intuitively @Nigel's question makes a lot of sense to me.
although now that i think of it i could imagine that firstly the toam 'clumps' are too small to affect travel in any measurable way, and then also that while normal chalk trails will not 'knock' a ball of course, it would interfere with judging the cue ball path. a spinning cue ball would definitely behave differently when its crossing over a section of cloth where chalk is affecting the friction coefficient, the question is just how much.
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I use Master chalk by tweteen .. is it any good?
Yes it is fine
How much can a snooker coach charge to train an amateur? Like how much Chris henry would charge for training an amateur?
as much as the amateur is willing to pay for coaching from that person ?!
Is there any reason to change my green Taom snooker chalk 2.0 to this Pyro? (Question to those who tried both)
I’ve tried both. I play pool and the snooker chalk works much better. I prefer the 1.0 version but the 2.0 works just as well. I just like the 1.0 since it is more gritty and I like the sound. When I started using the pyro is when I started getting kicks again
Many years old chalk
All information considered, if the chalk's only benefit is purely to keep the table streak-free, can anyone out there justify the price tag on this stuff??
Having used this chalk for an extended period now, the benefits are:
1) clean table
2) no kicks
The chalk also lasts well over a year with regular play. So it doesn't work out expensive at all.
Can anybody know how to get this chalk ? I am from Pakistan
I believe it's good chalk, but for me as a normal club player there are other things to improve first, and I don't like to support companies who are trying to rip off their customers. The price is way too high for chalk. Although on professional level every small thing matters. It's also good to keep the table clean.
Yeah you're right. It all comes down to what important for the individual. It's a lot of money, and won't give any improvement in terms of you playing the game. It's purely just to keep my table to a high standard for longer, so it's worth it for me. If you're just playing down a club, it doesn't matter.
Well summarised
The pyro version kinda sucks, I use the snooker version of the 2.0 and I was just able to get ahold of 1.0.
What's wrong with it? Why go with version 1?
Doesn't go all over you're hands either and it lasts for ages had mine over a year.I think it is a disadvantage for pros that use it when their opponent doesn't because the opponent will be more used to the wierd bounces and contact's and chalk all over the table.
those specs can change the direction of the ball. they are that big of a lumps. I though there was something weird about the hype, and those lumps are a good enough reason to pass this product. It might create a better friction, but the chalk is forming game altering boulders of gipsum. Nope.
They're very very soft pieces of chalk. The weight of the ball would just crush them absolutely no problem. Also remember my camera is zoomed right in, so they look bigger on video than they actually are. As I say, I couldn't even notice them at all at first.
I'm not telling anyone to get this chalk, it's ok for keeping the table clean, but that's it really. But the little specs of chalk would do nothing to the direction a balls goes in, they're just way to soft and small.
@@BartonSnooker Not at speed on a U.S pool table, no. I've played on tables that resemble more a gravel road than a pool table, but a snooker ball is so small, and the fast cloth is so smooth, that those particles will come to play. Just when you need a slow, smooth, accurate shot, a henge of chalk appears on your path. a flash of dust makes almost no difference. It can alter your massé, but not much else. And then again, cleaning the table is not just for the looks. It's to maintain a fair, even playground for both players. Hiding these clay pebbles under a color is unsportsmanlike behavior. Soft at first, but clay nevertheless. when the softening compound is evaporated they are hard as rocks. And any particle that comes in contat wih a rolling ball, has an effect on the ball's directory. Can that alteration change the result of the shot? Absolutely yes. Laws of physics and math cannot be denied.
@@oikkuoek disagree with you there bud. Logically sounds right but you are making some assumptions to validate your logic. But at the end of the day if the trajectory of the ball was materially affected in the pro game don't you think they would have called it out by now just like kicks?
They have 4 and 8 frame sessions on superfine cloths under studio (drying) lights and they play plenty soft shots and are far more fussy about conditions.
What kind of tip did you used for this test?
Elk Master Pro Soft
Taom Chalk is better the Triangle and Master chalk it’s much better it last longer it’s worth the Extra Money,
Ronnie is still using triangle chalk though
Yes that's right.
Dont mean to be picky and do love your stuff. However your table surround is in dire need of a sanding and polishing. Looks like somebody with keys on a belt or a belt buckle have been scratching it.
Yeah, it's years old. It does need refinishing at some point. Maybe when I next have it reclothed I'll look into it.
Wouldn't these bigger pieces tear the cloth when the balls roll over?
No
Wow great
Triangle Pro and a Century tip for me.
The price seems abusive. The only comparison that is made is with the original Triangle chalk, but my feeling is that the Triangle Pro is a great improvement on the original. In any case, I suspect Taom chalk is the best chalk available and if it eliminates miscues then it will allow you to play better, although only marginally. For me it is only the cost that stops me buying: I don't like being had.
£15 for one piece! Screw that!
It's a lot isn't it!
Love from Pakistan sir could you send me a cue i will pay you i am a beganer of snooker. really love you sir
Yowser.....i paid less for me cue
Still using the same block of chalk 11 months later 😃
@@BartonSnooker same cue twenty years later lol
@@union310 haha. You win 👍😄
@@BartonSnooker Next frame? Lol I suppose only time will tell if it is a fad or here to stay. I just don't see snooker has putting it on the tables
@@BartonSnooker Based on your review I have just made a purchase.
15 quid lol
No thanks
Lasts about 18 months. Cheap stuff 👍
Russian magic chalk. Best there is. No one is allowed to use anything else on my table.
Russian magic chalk. No comparison. The taom is a complete ripoff
I find that Russian magic chalk really leaves a lot of marks on the cue ball. Stopped using it.
Over 7 minutes on chalk ???? 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴 and No I didn't watch it
Nowt wrong with masters chalk.......
If you play in a club like most of us 1. You won't care whether there are marks on the club table (not as if you are not going to brush it when you finish your game anyway) and 2. £15 vs 50p is an absolute rort. I'd bet with the increased demand they could sell more and make more money lowering the price which in turn would increase demand again. You see where I'm going with this? There is obviously a price point v profit
@@alecspyrou2134 I brush and nap before every session regardless, I respect the tables even though others don't. I find masters grips the ball fractionally better than triangle although the peradon Pro is even better but at 2.50 a block its pricey. Also the very fact that if both players aren't using the taom it negates the kicks and miscues unless I use it in practice I don't see the justification of 15 nicker! And yes I see your point re pricing/demand but they're cornering the market.
@@qstar6407 I also brush and block before and after. Unless Taom lasts 30 times more than Triangle then we can't use the length of time Taom lasts for as a positive. So all that remains is less kicks. I believe there is lots of chalk out there that will reduce kicks at a fraction of the cost of Taom
@@alecspyrou2134 peradon pro seems reasonable at doing so but its a bit gritty for my liking