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Jon please dump better health as a sponcer - they are a scam as most of their "therapist" are not licenced and dont follow hipa standards - it also has been reported that they sale user data. Please do some research on them. I love all your content and have no issue with any of your other sponcers but this one is really not a good sponcer.
@@kiddesigns7581you are paying for the convenience of mobile therapy. Just like how a pack of toilet paper cost more at a gas station than the same size at Walmart, you are paying for convenience
If you don't like the sponsor, don't use the product. You don't know what opportunities are presented to any given content creator and it is not your job to tell content creators to turn down funding that may impact their livelihood. Use the product or don't, maybe focus on the quality of the content and stay in your lane when it comes to who happens to be funding the content. Anything that requires advertisement indicates a product that cannot be successful on its own merits: think of all the online colleges whose degrees are not taken seriously that are advertised on television versus Ivy League universities who would never need commercials because the quality of education that speaks for itself is what laid the foundation for their reputation. Maybe understand the nature of advertisements and the relationship to the legitimacy of the products being advertised before criticizing a sponsorship. Learn to separate the spiel he is obligated to regurgitate in exchange for funding from a genuine and heartfelt endorsement.
One little mistake: Penny Dreadfuls weren't like true crime podcasts. They were more akin to horror comics. Yeah, some of them were based on actual crimes that were going on at the time but even those were heavily embellished and details tweaked.
So more likey Creepypastas than True Crime Podcasts. Some of them may have been "inspired by actual events" (like most horror movies that claim the same, when the real event was, "Man walks into dark basement, and has a bad feeling." There's "Based on a True Story" and "Inspired by Actual events" and "Ripped from the headlines" ... but 90 of the time it just includes someone who actually lived... Like Sarchie in "Deliver Us From Evil" Real guy, is a police officer, claims to have done battle with demons, but the movie was NOTHING like the book. (and even the truth of much of that is dubious.)
Funny you used the clip of HBC complaining about the lack of breathing. There's a story where the late Dame Angela Lansbury (who originated the role of Mrs. Lovett on Broadway and won a Tony for it) confronted Sondheim about "By the Sea" during rehearsals, asking him "How am I supposed to breathe?" He told her "You don't." This makes sense because (as written) Mrs. Lovett is a chatty, gossipy sort of woman who doesn't let others get a word in edgewise.
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n I've been singing and doing musical theater since I was a preteen. And even I have trouble with Mrs. Lovett. That being said, I would love to play her someday.
I thought this was an older video since I know Jon covered Sweeney Todd already and he already mentioned about how his schedule is gonna change for good reason, I just finished the Hook episode, but it says “posted 25 minutes ago” so LET’S GO!
I think the best way I see the stage and film versions are depending on how you want to view the story - bombastic and dramatic, or gritty and subdued. I love the film version don’t get me wrong, and I do credit Sondheim for being a huge part of the film and knowing he was adapting the stage into a film. But I think that’s the appeal of Sweeney Todd - you can see multiple variations of the story and they all have merit
3:35 please please please do your amazing research on better help. They are nothing more than a scam site and do not deserve to be talked about. Please don't ever be sponsored by them
WOW! One never knows! Soooo many short-con operators are out there now. I never follow-up on ads anymore without looking up their company’s name first myself! Good to know, though. 🍁🪷🌷🍁
I know someone in the mental health field and they were surprised to find their information listed on the site when they hadn't signed up/approved of it. Took quite a while to find the proper contact info to get it removed. If they did that to one person, they likely did it to others.
I am definitely going to do my research, I was really thinking about starting Betterhelp. It's going to be a real shame if it really is a scam, that really seemed like a comforting way to go about therapy, but seems too good to be true when you really consider the numbers of patients to therapists texting and calling om demand (how I assume it was supposed to work) Thank you for the heads up.
I tried it a few years ago and now a few month back I got an email saying that my information were sold by better help. There was a lawsuit (not investigated by me (or even involved me by my knowledge before I got the email)) and you know what ? I got 10$ on a deleted PayPal account. Wow. So yeah. Do not let sponsorship get to you.
I love your videos! I liked the depiction of Sweeney Todd in Terry Pratchett's book Dodger. In it Sweeney is killing because of PTSD. He was a military surgeon/barber and is having flashbacks to all the people he failed to save. He sits their throat to put them out of their misery. He is really a sad figure in the book
I saw the originals. This a compilation that was needed! Thanks Jon. Very glad you kept your outro. My favorite is still the original penny dreadful without the expansion.
I can't help but notice Jon's shirts throughout the episode, I think they deserve their own video! It'll be called " Jons Shirt Video: Which one looks spookier!!"
Hard to decide between the book and the musical endings. I'm a sucker for stories that show you how destructive seeking revenge can be but I also love an unapologetic, evil villain who gets his just desserts. As someone who hadn't seen your original videos about Sweeney Todd, I appreciate the compilation and I agree that more people need to know about the actual messed up history that went on back then.
I'm so sporadic with my viewing, I didn't know you had 3 separate videos, so I was very glad to watch this compilation with fresh eyes! Thank you for editing them together! 😊
🎶These are my friends. See how they glisten. See this one shine.🎶 "At last, my arm is complete again!" Still gives me chills. I love it.❤😁🎃 P.S Hi Gunther. Sweet little puppy.❤🐶17:01
@Minyassa it was a red fox which is why I absolutely couldn't resist lollol it was honestly one of my most magical memories 😅😅 this thing found and adopted me.... kind of a cool experience to tote around
tbh singing in bands doesn't equate to singing in Musical Theatre (most theatre folks are classically trained in voice and usually take classes in vocal control). Stephen Sondheim's pieces are super technical and have hard rhythms/syncopation to follow, so someone with Johnny's type of vocal experience would really struggle with Sondheim's works.
jon im pretty sure your original series of sweeney todd videos is the reason im obsessed with this story now id never been interested in the burton film before but i decided to listen to the original cast album for a laugh and now im hearing the music that nobody hears
Best Jon Solo I can recall seeing! At least in many months. GREAT research & great storytelling, as usual. I’m also a Broadway afficio, since kindergarten! Sweeney Todd was one of Sondheim’s best works-ever. The stage production was Excellent, with Len Cariou & Angela Lansbury! The Greek Chorus added what the film lacked-connection to a specific audience. Interestingly, there was no mention of Sawney Beane, a character of British lore/18th century reality, too. He wasn’t a barber at all, though. He was said to have been the “inspiration” for Sweeney Todd, too. But his story consisted of even more barbaric acts, to wit: Beane was described as the progenitor of a family who lived in caves in a heavily-forested area near London. The family all specialized in highway robberies of stagecoaches passing on the main roads, particularly after nightfall. Instead of being content to rob & flee, however, the family was said to have forced the passengers to disembark, robbed them of all possessions, then killed them. Still worse, they carried the bodies off and back to their caves, where they made meals of them. I’m not sure of what became of their drivers and horses, & carriages, but the stories of disappearances eventually led the law to conduct searches, the first of which were unsuccessful. However, one of the children, oddly-attired in evidently stolen clothing was eventually spotted and then followed, leading the posse of investigators to the chain of caves. It was there discovered by the discarded heaps of bones and cooking utensils what had ultimately become of the missing persons. It was also discovered that Sawney Beane, in “factoid,” had several dozen children living with him and their various mothers, all related to him by some nefarious chain of incestuous relations. They were all rounded-up, taken to The Old Bailey and tried, found guilty, & sentenced to death, down to the youngest toddlers and infants-all deemed too depraved, too incapacitated, too unfit for society to live, given their acclimations. It was said to have been one of the saddest and most tragic mass executions ever witnessed. IF the story is true. It seems to have disappeared from the web. But when the musical play “Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street,” premiered & became a big hit, it was easy to find, along with references to “The String of Pearls,” & other “penny dreadfuls.” 👻🎃💀🗝☠️🎃
I think I loved the 36 page version of the novel as well as the musical both Broadway and film. Honestly I was hoping that you'd do a scary story video as promised last week and my request was the baby sitter and the man upstairs. Nevertheless regardless of what you said, it's unpredictable that you'd recap the sweeny Todd lore and I actually enjoyed it
Jon with Gunther reminds me of The Why Files with that guy and hecklefish. The only differences being Gunther doesn't talk and Jon does legends whereas the Why Files guy does conspiracies
Ever since I saw the stage play with George Hearn and Angela Lansbury on DVD in a fit of curiosity from my local library, I found I enjoyed watching it once in a while and that part where Toby ends Todd’s life still shocking a little.
I watch it every Halloween 🎃 🥰 such a good movie but crazy. I love watching your videos it always educates me on something I either didn’t know or that I was already curious about looking into but never got around to. ☺️ Thank you for making videos!
Me too!! This year I managed to convince enough people to vote for it in a discord server that we’ll be watching it as our group Halloween movie! I’m excited to share it with others
Is there going to be a messed-up origins on Beetlejuice? Even though I haven't seen the first one, I watched the new movie with my dad in the theatre near us and I'm now interested. Is Beetlejuice a character made by Tim Burton? Even so, what are his inspirations for the character? Also, I'm still looking forward to the messed-up origins of the Boogeyman. You haven't forgotten, have you?
Until the end of this, I didn't realize that it was a complication. Thank you. It is becoming very annoying that the channels I like to watch are nothing but those.
I hadn't seen the other 3 so found this really awesome in depth episode. The mention of people believing corpses could heal them definitely was established already. I remember reading a translation of Bede's Ecclesiastical history of the Anglo Saxon people, and like tons of it is him explaining how dead saints body parts will heal people.
I really enjoyed this entire video! I like the movie best, but that may be because hearing a synopsis is no substitute for the impact of actually watching or reading a work, and the movie is the one I've seen. So I'm going to read The String of Pearls on Project Gutenberg, and then see if I can find a recording of the musical somewhere. I don't think it's based on a true story but rather is probably an amalgam of various different combined serial killer stories and anecdotes put together by the original author. This has been fascinating stuff, thank you! Excellent rabbit hole.
I thought they did pretty great with the singing given their circumstances. Especially the song Misses Lovett sang when she was talking about settling down with Sweeney on the beach. I felt like that song was made for Carter Bonnum
Sorry, I just have to comment on the merch that appeared below this video for me. I saw a nice blue shirt on you, with a calming nice background and a ghostly ships helm on the shirt. It was small enough I couldn't make out the rest of it. I was like "ooooo, this looks pretty and cool, I wonder what it is. /click/ OH GAWD! oh..mygod...uuuummm.....uuhhhh..aaaaaag /shudders/ no! Just no...not for me." Sufficiently creeped me out. Awesome art, and props to the artist for extreme creepy. I couldn't live with that in my wardrobe. X3 Edit: added slashes, because apparently asterisks are for formatting. >.=.
Johnny Depp can sing- he's in a band when not working on screen projects. I'd argue that for the medium, his vocals were excellent for the film adaptation. They were more subtle and reflected the aloof and almost dual nature of the character. Just my opinion, of course.
I really liked the 'true crime...or is it' chapter. I felt it was a good illustration of how to evaluate sources of information. I am always on the look out for videos to help teach my kid how to evaluate the information they hear and critical thinking skills. It was a fun lesson.
I wonder what you're going to do with all these videos. I've been creating several storylines of my own. You and I are of Scorpio, so it's pretty cool how we are connected in these lores. Thanks and you're welcome, Jon Solo.
There is a case in Hannover, Germany. A guy who offered a place to sleep to young boys looking for work, raped and killed them. He used to pick them at the central station. It is said that she made sausages with the bodies. Horrible!
Beware the next barber chair you sit in... for Sweeney Todd's spirit might still be lurking, razor in hand, waiting for his next victim. After all, some legends say his hunger for vengeance never died.
Its always a good Day searching for a specific Video To find out That Jon Solo is back at it again with these perfect videos, and not only that but 2 days after it posted I found it whats the chances🔥🔥
Another channel I watch, the Grimmlife Collective went to London recently and did a then and now shots of Fleet Street. The addresses are real, (even if the story is fictional). Very interesting.
Burton's Sweeney Todd would have worked better as a straight-up slasher horror without the silly songs. It could still be macabre and melodramatic like the original String of Pearls or the 1936 film with Tod Slaughter
hi french speaker here, I did some research and it does seems like there's a parisien legend about a barber and a pie maker (both are men in this legend tho) and it does talk about the fact that they were caught because of a dog but i haven't read anything about a statue and looked at the road in question (now chanoinesse it used to be called marmoussets) also in what i read the house were burned and not the criminals. I only read quickly and not that much in detail but can make more researsh if needed. have a good day :)
Jon Solo… I must admit that I am surprised that you didn’t mention/show anything from the 1936 flick, “Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street”, starring the appropriately named actor, “Todd Slaughter”, as the Demon Barber, himself! It does seem to go along with the story of the pearls, at least more than any other version I’ve heard of. Hope you will give it a watch, & perhaps include it in any future Sweeney Todd revisits. Thanks! 💀 BTW… The Burton musical flick is extremely lacking, in dark humor, unlike the Sondheim stage musical. Didn’t care for Burton sacrificing the humor for more blood. Especially in the “A Little Priest” scene, where as in the Hearn/Lansbury version, they’re absolutely relishing their wickedness, along with so many dark puns. While visually interesting, I do find the flick to be, for the most part, unwatchable. (Especially with Sasha Baron Cohen’s unbearable performance as, “Pirelli”.🤦♂️) TBH… The young man who played, “Tobias” did the best work in the entire production, no matter the casting choices of Depp, Bonham-Carter, & even Alan Rickman. (Honorable mention for the excellent casting of Timothy Spall as, “Beedle Bamford”.)
You didn't pull me away from my own voice blabbing around in my head stuck in my thoughts at first until you mentioned messed up true origins! I'm like really, that's what grabbed my attention?! 🤦🏼♀️😂 So here we go! Thanks for getting me out of my own head! It's all good seriously!
If this did come about as a legend or a myth with no true basis in reality It does still kind of make sense every time you go to visit that type of a barber. You're putting your life in his hands. He could slit your throat at any moment if you wanted to. You're making yourself completely vulnerable. Makes sense that there would be stories about when someone took advantage of that There aren't many, if any situations where you're putting your life in someone's hands for something simple, like a shave or a haircut these days
You missed an opportunity to mention a similar serial killer who did exist. Great Depression era Germany there was a guy who hosted travelers for free. He killed them and sold the meat to a town desperate for food, especially fresh meat. Obsolete Oddity has a great video about it.
I never watched the movie because it’s a musical. I made the joke at work that I don’t watch them because people don’t just start signing and dancing in my experience. Now my coworkers duplicate that south park episode
I think it's interesting that this story was so popular when London had plenty of ghastly murders & serial killers many of whom were women. Some of the side stories about the asylum & people being forced to work by imprisonment sounds like social commentary. So the story of a murderous barber may have some grounding in reality but the people pies sounds more like an allegory for how tough & desperate the poor could get that they wouldn't even question the meat source or trust the authorities enough to go to the cops or magistrate about suspicious disappearances & bad smells. At least in the musical Sweeney is given a reason why he's killing but the musical leans way more into the corruption of the authorities than the book. The baker is also given the motivation of being in love with Sweeney. It's a good story for such a macabre & tragic subject matter especially in a musical. I liked the movie but the musical performances don't hold a candle to the OG stage play. I did really like Sascha Baron Cohen's performance as Pirelli. That song was one of the more memorable. The film had the right vibe & a good cast even though none of them were trained vocalists.
This is the first video of yours I've seen, but you have a major error about Johnny Depp not being a singer. Johnny Depp came to Hollywood to become a musician and only became an actor because of Nic Cage. Johnny has also done singing parts in movies before. He was the lead in Cry Baby, which was made in the 80s or 90s.
It's amazing how many people can't wrap their heads around the idea that a work of fiction was just completely made up. Why assume it's based on a real killer?
Nerdy actress here: so the stage musical of course :) a theory though: in my mind the most likely part to be true is a struggling & unscrupulous baker using corpses in their pies at that time!
Holy Cow !! This story is more complicated than what excepted 😮 I've heard of the movie and play, and only glanced at film trailers. This is the first time I've heard the full story !!
45:09 That bit with the dog sounds like the Dog and Tucker Box. There’s an actual statue in NSW Australia of a dog sitting on a tucker box (lunch box) waiting for his owner. I can’t remember if it was a story or a real event but there was a man who had a dog. He would go to work and his dog would sit on the tucker box all day waiting for him. One day the man died at work and no one went to get the dog. It died sitting on the tucker box waiting for his master.
There was another version of Sweeney Todd from 1936 which was a British Drama. It was directed by George King and starred Tod Slaughter 😉😂 I am not joking that is the guy's name
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@@arthurmartin4616 Greedy content creators don't care, they just want lots of free money.
To me it adds to the story that they are not the best singers but actors, but maby that´s just me.
How can you still partner with this bs?
Jon please dump better health as a sponcer - they are a scam as most of their "therapist" are not licenced and dont follow hipa standards - it also has been reported that they sale user data. Please do some research on them. I love all your content and have no issue with any of your other sponcers but this one is really not a good sponcer.
I agree with this comment many ads have tried to advertise the app as accessible and cheap however it is 10x more expensive than regular therapy
@@kiddesigns7581you are paying for the convenience of mobile therapy. Just like how a pack of toilet paper cost more at a gas station than the same size at Walmart, you are paying for convenience
But I agree with the original comment
Yea they have infected TH-cam.... I can't think of very many creators that don't have them and I don't think many of them are aware of who they are.
If you don't like the sponsor, don't use the product.
You don't know what opportunities are presented to any given content creator and it is not your job to tell content creators to turn down funding that may impact their livelihood. Use the product or don't, maybe focus on the quality of the content and stay in your lane when it comes to who happens to be funding the content. Anything that requires advertisement indicates a product that cannot be successful on its own merits: think of all the online colleges whose degrees are not taken seriously that are advertised on television versus Ivy League universities who would never need commercials because the quality of education that speaks for itself is what laid the foundation for their reputation. Maybe understand the nature of advertisements and the relationship to the legitimacy of the products being advertised before criticizing a sponsorship. Learn to separate the spiel he is obligated to regurgitate in exchange for funding from a genuine and heartfelt endorsement.
One little mistake: Penny Dreadfuls weren't like true crime podcasts. They were more akin to horror comics. Yeah, some of them were based on actual crimes that were going on at the time but even those were heavily embellished and details tweaked.
They weren't exactly the most accurate accounts of the actual crimes!
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n that's what I mean.
So more likey Creepypastas than True Crime Podcasts. Some of them may have been "inspired by actual events" (like most horror movies that claim the same, when the real event was, "Man walks into dark basement, and has a bad feeling."
There's "Based on a True Story" and "Inspired by Actual events" and "Ripped from the headlines" ... but 90 of the time it just includes someone who actually lived... Like Sarchie in "Deliver Us From Evil" Real guy, is a police officer, claims to have done battle with demons, but the movie was NOTHING like the book. (and even the truth of much of that is dubious.)
@@numenlad7903 yep, Creepypastas/NoSleep would be a good way to describe them.
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n that’s what I mean.
"Try The Priest" is my favorite song in the musical. I really get a kick out of the commentary humor of the word play!
How is Locksmith?
Glad to see your still uploading videos and caring for your future kid
Bros not gonna read his kid stories, he's just gonna hit play on his channel😂😂
@@expressiondestination6430 good one 🤣
She's here!! ❤
He has a still that uploads videos? WOW
@debbylou5729 the fuck did you just say🤣🤣
Funny you used the clip of HBC complaining about the lack of breathing.
There's a story where the late Dame Angela Lansbury (who originated the role of Mrs. Lovett on Broadway and won a Tony for it) confronted Sondheim about "By the Sea" during rehearsals, asking him "How am I supposed to breathe?"
He told her "You don't."
This makes sense because (as written) Mrs. Lovett is a chatty, gossipy sort of woman who doesn't let others get a word in edgewise.
I guess finding it difficult to play Mrs. Lovett is universal!
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n I've been singing and doing musical theater since I was a preteen. And even I have trouble with Mrs. Lovett.
That being said, I would love to play her someday.
@@janeyrevanescence12 Do you know what range Mrs. Lovett is in?
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n IIRC, she's alto-mezzo
I thought this was an older video since I know Jon covered Sweeney Todd already and he already mentioned about how his schedule is gonna change for good reason, I just finished the Hook episode, but it says “posted 25 minutes ago” so LET’S GO!
i think it's a compilation
@@charlessaints it is but it’s better than nothing and some new info sprinkled in there which I don’t mind :)
I think the best way I see the stage and film versions are depending on how you want to view the story - bombastic and dramatic, or gritty and subdued. I love the film version don’t get me wrong, and I do credit Sondheim for being a huge part of the film and knowing he was adapting the stage into a film.
But I think that’s the appeal of Sweeney Todd - you can see multiple variations of the story and they all have merit
3:35 please please please do your amazing research on better help. They are nothing more than a scam site and do not deserve to be talked about. Please don't ever be sponsored by them
WOW! One never knows! Soooo many short-con operators are out there now. I never follow-up on ads anymore without looking up their company’s name first myself! Good to know, though. 🍁🪷🌷🍁
I'm glad someone else knows about the better help scam.
I know someone in the mental health field and they were surprised to find their information listed on the site when they hadn't signed up/approved of it. Took quite a while to find the proper contact info to get it removed. If they did that to one person, they likely did it to others.
I am definitely going to do my research, I was really thinking about starting Betterhelp. It's going to be a real shame if it really is a scam, that really seemed like a comforting way to go about therapy, but seems too good to be true when you really consider the numbers of patients to therapists texting and calling om demand (how I assume it was supposed to work)
Thank you for the heads up.
I tried it a few years ago and now a few month back I got an email saying that my information were sold by better help. There was a lawsuit (not investigated by me (or even involved me by my knowledge before I got the email)) and you know what ? I got 10$ on a deleted PayPal account. Wow. So yeah. Do not let sponsorship get to you.
I love your videos! I liked the depiction of Sweeney Todd in Terry Pratchett's book Dodger. In it Sweeney is killing because of PTSD. He was a military surgeon/barber and is having flashbacks to all the people he failed to save. He sits their throat to put them out of their misery. He is really a sad figure in the book
I saw the originals. This a compilation that was needed! Thanks Jon. Very glad you kept your outro. My favorite is still the original penny dreadful without the expansion.
Damn, boy, this must have been a TON of work. Nicely done!
I can't help but notice Jon's shirts throughout the episode, I think they deserve their own video! It'll be called " Jons Shirt Video: Which one looks spookier!!"
Damn it John that opening joke just pulled me right in. 10/10
Angela Lansbury is an awesome "Mrs. Lovett"!!!!!
Hard to decide between the book and the musical endings.
I'm a sucker for stories that show you how destructive seeking revenge can be but I also love an unapologetic, evil villain who gets his just desserts.
As someone who hadn't seen your original videos about Sweeney Todd, I appreciate the compilation and I agree that more people need to know about the actual messed up history that went on back then.
Gunther is here for his adoring fans ❤
I liked his segment best of all! Sweet fella, & he genuinely seemed “concerned.” 🐾🐾
Who the heck is Gunther
AWWWEEE nvm Gunther is the doggie!!!!! AWWWEEE so cute!!!!!
Dude he has my dog locked in an oven.
Please drop better help. They are an absolute scam at best. It really really makes your channel look bad when we all know you are an awesome creator!
Most TH-cam sponsors are scams. Best to just ignore all the sponsors and ads in the first place.
Facts bro
I'm so sporadic with my viewing, I didn't know you had 3 separate videos, so I was very glad to watch this compilation with fresh eyes!
Thank you for editing them together! 😊
🎶These are my friends. See how they glisten. See this one shine.🎶 "At last, my arm is complete again!" Still gives me chills. I love it.❤😁🎃 P.S Hi Gunther. Sweet little puppy.❤🐶17:01
Dog named "Copper".... By Todd? We just veered off into "The Fox and the Hound" 🤔😂
I once had a fox i named copper as a little jokey joke cause of that movie lol
@@beepboopbeep4801 To be honest, it's a better name for a fox, considering the color. Unless it wasn't a red fox, in which case ignore this remark.
@Minyassa it was a red fox which is why I absolutely couldn't resist lollol it was honestly one of my most magical memories 😅😅 this thing found and adopted me.... kind of a cool experience to tote around
"And he screamed to the crowd; "The Pies are Soylent Green!"
Ha! That's what I was going to say. But I looked at the comments to see if someone else beat me to that reference!
@@mommatanya1 My apologies. Sorry. If it helps, the comment only got 3 likes. I think you dodged the bullet this time around.
Um what?…Johnny Depp started his career as a musician and had been in several amateur bands before he became an actor.
tbh singing in bands doesn't equate to singing in Musical Theatre (most theatre folks are classically trained in voice and usually take classes in vocal control). Stephen Sondheim's pieces are super technical and have hard rhythms/syncopation to follow, so someone with Johnny's type of vocal experience would really struggle with Sondheim's works.
I think he's specifically referring to performing singers as in theatre
Johnny Depp has been singing for years. He has a band called Hollywood Vampires. Along with Alice Cooper and Joe Perry.
Ironically he made what is considered by a majority of people the best musical in nightmare before Christmas
And yes I'm aware that it's mostly Henry Selik
I love the look that Gunther gives Jon! Like Gunther was thinking, who said that you could kiss me on camera? Didn't we talk about this before? 😂🤣
Gunther looked at Jon like what da heck was that about lol.
I live on a street called Sweeney street in western western xo cheers and thankyou so much Jon Solo your the best English teacher and story teller :)
I like it when you compile the tale together in 1 video. Thank you.
I was watching the original 3 jon solo episodes of this yesterday this is such like perfect timing
I love sweeney todd so much
jon im pretty sure your original series of sweeney todd videos is the reason im obsessed with this story now
id never been interested in the burton film before but i decided to listen to the original cast album for a laugh and now im hearing the music that nobody hears
Jon, as a new listener I appreciate the compilation. More please
Best Jon Solo I can recall seeing! At least in many months. GREAT research & great storytelling, as usual. I’m also a Broadway afficio, since kindergarten! Sweeney Todd was one of Sondheim’s best works-ever. The stage production was Excellent, with Len Cariou & Angela Lansbury! The Greek Chorus added what the film lacked-connection to a specific audience.
Interestingly, there was no mention of Sawney Beane, a character of British lore/18th century reality, too. He wasn’t a barber at all, though. He was said to have been the “inspiration” for Sweeney Todd, too. But his story consisted of even more barbaric acts, to wit: Beane was described as the progenitor of a family who lived in caves in a heavily-forested area near London. The family all specialized in highway robberies of stagecoaches passing on the main roads, particularly after nightfall. Instead of being content to rob & flee, however, the family was said to have forced the passengers to disembark, robbed them of all possessions, then killed them. Still worse, they carried the bodies off and back to their caves, where they made meals of them. I’m not sure of what became of their drivers and horses, & carriages, but the stories of disappearances eventually led the law to conduct searches, the first of which were unsuccessful. However, one of the children, oddly-attired in evidently stolen clothing was eventually spotted and then followed, leading the posse of investigators to the chain of caves.
It was there discovered by the discarded heaps of bones and cooking utensils what had ultimately become of the missing persons. It was also discovered that Sawney Beane, in “factoid,” had several dozen children living with him and their various mothers, all related to him by some nefarious chain of incestuous relations. They were all rounded-up, taken to The Old Bailey and tried, found guilty, & sentenced to death, down to the youngest toddlers and infants-all deemed too depraved, too incapacitated, too unfit for society to live, given their acclimations. It was said to have been one of the saddest and most tragic mass executions ever witnessed.
IF the story is true. It seems to have disappeared from the web. But when the musical play “Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street,” premiered & became a big hit, it was easy to find, along with references to “The String of Pearls,” & other “penny dreadfuls.” 👻🎃💀🗝☠️🎃
When did the dog waiting for his owner become part of the legend. It immediately made me think of Hachiko
I think I loved the 36 page version of the novel as well as the musical both Broadway and film. Honestly I was hoping that you'd do a scary story video as promised last week and my request was the baby sitter and the man upstairs. Nevertheless regardless of what you said, it's unpredictable that you'd recap the sweeny Todd lore and I actually enjoyed it
Jon with Gunther reminds me of The Why Files with that guy and hecklefish. The only differences being Gunther doesn't talk and Jon does legends whereas the Why Files guy does conspiracies
Ever since I saw the stage play with George Hearn and Angela Lansbury on DVD in a fit of curiosity from my local library, I found I enjoyed watching it once in a while and that part where Toby ends Todd’s life still shocking a little.
i know you are having a baby, and much love to you and you family.
I watch it every Halloween 🎃 🥰 such a good movie but crazy. I love watching your videos it always educates me on something I either didn’t know or that I was already curious about looking into but never got around to. ☺️ Thank you for making videos!
that's an awesome tradition! and hey thank YOU for watching :)
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Me too!! This year I managed to convince enough people to vote for it in a discord server that we’ll be watching it as our group Halloween movie! I’m excited to share it with others
I'm glad you are such a stickler for your sources. It warms my heart. One of the many reasons I'm a fan for life.
Is there going to be a messed-up origins on Beetlejuice? Even though I haven't seen the first one, I watched the new movie with my dad in the theatre near us and I'm now interested. Is Beetlejuice a character made by Tim Burton? Even so, what are his inspirations for the character? Also, I'm still looking forward to the messed-up origins of the Boogeyman. You haven't forgotten, have you?
Until the end of this, I didn't realize that it was a complication. Thank you. It is becoming very annoying that the channels I like to watch are nothing but those.
"He seldom laughed but he often smiled" feels like a nod towards Sweeney's horrible laugh.
I hadn't seen the other 3 so found this really awesome in depth episode. The mention of people believing corpses could heal them definitely was established already. I remember reading a translation of Bede's Ecclesiastical history of the Anglo Saxon people, and like tons of it is him explaining how dead saints body parts will heal people.
Gunther s look at 17:08 HAHAHAHA pure treasure! Love to that sweet lil puggy! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
37:29 So is One of the oldest examples of people taking a popular franchise and stretching it out until they can no longer make money out of it
I really enjoyed this entire video! I like the movie best, but that may be because hearing a synopsis is no substitute for the impact of actually watching or reading a work, and the movie is the one I've seen. So I'm going to read The String of Pearls on Project Gutenberg, and then see if I can find a recording of the musical somewhere. I don't think it's based on a true story but rather is probably an amalgam of various different combined serial killer stories and anecdotes put together by the original author. This has been fascinating stuff, thank you! Excellent rabbit hole.
I thought they did pretty great with the singing given their circumstances.
Especially the song Misses Lovett sang when she was talking about settling down with Sweeney on the beach. I felt like that song was made for Carter Bonnum
Sorry, I just have to comment on the merch that appeared below this video for me. I saw a nice blue shirt on you, with a calming nice background and a ghostly ships helm on the shirt. It was small enough I couldn't make out the rest of it. I was like "ooooo, this looks pretty and cool, I wonder what it is. /click/ OH GAWD! oh..mygod...uuuummm.....uuhhhh..aaaaaag /shudders/ no! Just no...not for me."
Sufficiently creeped me out. Awesome art, and props to the artist for extreme creepy. I couldn't live with that in my wardrobe. X3
Edit: added slashes, because apparently asterisks are for formatting. >.=.
Johnny Depp can sing- he's in a band when not working on screen projects. I'd argue that for the medium, his vocals were excellent for the film adaptation. They were more subtle and reflected the aloof and almost dual nature of the character. Just my opinion, of course.
Something can be said about turning the mundane and safe and quiet into something frightening
I really liked the 'true crime...or is it' chapter. I felt it was a good illustration of how to evaluate sources of information. I am always on the look out for videos to help teach my kid how to evaluate the information they hear and critical thinking skills. It was a fun lesson.
"Penny Dreadful" is also an *AWESOME* Drag name 😂😂😂
My takeaway from this is that "The String of Pearls" was the Victorian equivalent of "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair, except less based on fact.
I was looking dead into my dog's eyes right when you said his name and he looked at me and cocked his head like me😅
That look Jon gets from Gunter after telling him he is supposed to take one some cohost responsibility is priceless.😂
I wonder what you're going to do with all these videos. I've been creating several storylines of my own. You and I are of Scorpio, so it's pretty cool how we are connected in these lores.
Thanks and you're welcome, Jon Solo.
Oh he KIND OF brought back the intro music... lovely
There is a case in Hannover, Germany. A guy who offered a place to sleep to young boys looking for work, raped and killed them. He used to pick them at the central station. It is said that she made sausages with the bodies. Horrible!
Beware the next barber chair you sit in... for Sweeney Todd's spirit might still be lurking, razor in hand, waiting for his next victim. After all, some legends say his hunger for vengeance never died.
Its always a good Day searching for a specific Video To find out That Jon Solo is back at it again with these perfect videos, and not only that but 2 days after it posted I found it whats the chances🔥🔥
Wow❣️ Interesting versions. I’m intrigued by “The String of Pearls”. 👍
Cool shirts, Jon.
37:04 So, what you're saying is that Sweeney Todd was basically a slasher villain like Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers?
As always a wonderful explanation of a story I have always enjoyed!
Another channel I watch, the Grimmlife Collective went to London recently and did a then and now shots of Fleet Street. The addresses are real, (even if the story is fictional). Very interesting.
Burton's Sweeney Todd would have worked better as a straight-up slasher horror without the silly songs. It could still be macabre and melodramatic like the original String of Pearls or the 1936 film with Tod Slaughter
hi french speaker here, I did some research and it does seems like there's a parisien legend about a barber and a pie maker (both are men in this legend tho) and it does talk about the fact that they were caught because of a dog but i haven't read anything about a statue and looked at the road in question (now chanoinesse it used to be called marmoussets) also in what i read the house were burned and not the criminals. I only read quickly and not that much in detail but can make more researsh if needed.
have a good day :)
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I like the Film version but the Play Version I would definitely watched as much as the Film version.
Jon Solo… I must admit that I am surprised that you didn’t mention/show anything from the 1936 flick, “Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street”, starring the appropriately named actor, “Todd Slaughter”, as the Demon Barber, himself!
It does seem to go along with the story of the pearls, at least more than any other version I’ve heard of.
Hope you will give it a watch, & perhaps include it in any future Sweeney Todd revisits.
Thanks!
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BTW… The Burton musical flick is extremely lacking, in dark humor, unlike the Sondheim stage musical. Didn’t care for Burton sacrificing the humor for more blood. Especially in the “A Little Priest” scene, where as in the Hearn/Lansbury version, they’re absolutely relishing their wickedness, along with so many dark puns.
While visually interesting, I do find the flick to be, for the most part, unwatchable.
(Especially with Sasha Baron Cohen’s unbearable performance as, “Pirelli”.🤦♂️)
TBH… The young man who played, “Tobias” did the best work in the entire production, no matter the casting choices of Depp, Bonham-Carter, & even Alan Rickman.
(Honorable mention for the excellent casting of Timothy Spall as, “Beedle Bamford”.)
You didn't pull me away from my own voice blabbing around in my head stuck in my thoughts at first until you mentioned messed up true origins! I'm like really, that's what grabbed my attention?! 🤦🏼♀️😂 So here we go! Thanks for getting me out of my own head! It's all good seriously!
First time seeing a video from this dude. He got an immediate like, but Gunther got an immediate subscribe!
cast that could sing and is a professional singer, Jamie Campbell Bower! his voice is amazing.
Eyyyy, I can appreciate a content maker with a heart for fur babies, Gunther looks like he enjoys a good belly rub 😂
I have seen multiple versions of Sweeney Todd , from movies to variants of the musical, and even a graphic novel
If this did come about as a legend or a myth with no true basis in reality
It does still kind of make sense every time you go to visit that type of a barber. You're putting your life in his hands. He could slit your throat at any moment if you wanted to. You're making yourself completely vulnerable. Makes sense that there would be stories about when someone took advantage of that
There aren't many, if any situations where you're putting your life in someone's hands for something simple, like a shave or a haircut these days
You missed an opportunity to mention a similar serial killer who did exist. Great Depression era Germany there was a guy who hosted travelers for free. He killed them and sold the meat to a town desperate for food, especially fresh meat. Obsolete Oddity has a great video about it.
For a more heroic Halloween, try the messed up origins and Mythology behind Stravinsky's Firebird.
Where can i find the additional chapters please?
I never watched the movie because it’s a musical. I made the joke at work that I don’t watch them because people don’t just start signing and dancing in my experience. Now my coworkers duplicate that south park episode
I actually just finished your original 3 part release of this a couple days ago...
When you mentioned the odd laugh, I immediately went to Johnny's laugh as both the Mad Hatter and Willy Wonka.
I think it's interesting that this story was so popular when London had plenty of ghastly murders & serial killers many of whom were women. Some of the side stories about the asylum & people being forced to work by imprisonment sounds like social commentary. So the story of a murderous barber may have some grounding in reality but the people pies sounds more like an allegory for how tough & desperate the poor could get that they wouldn't even question the meat source or trust the authorities enough to go to the cops or magistrate about suspicious disappearances & bad smells. At least in the musical Sweeney is given a reason why he's killing but the musical leans way more into the corruption of the authorities than the book. The baker is also given the motivation of being in love with Sweeney. It's a good story for such a macabre & tragic subject matter especially in a musical. I liked the movie but the musical performances don't hold a candle to the OG stage play. I did really like Sascha Baron Cohen's performance as Pirelli. That song was one of the more memorable. The film had the right vibe & a good cast even though none of them were trained vocalists.
Johnny Depp HAS been in a musical. It is called Cry Baby. He's in it with Ricki Lake.
I have actually read Prest's collected stories.
Um... Depp had a rock band for a long time. Saying he "never sang before" is crap.
I think he meant sang in movie or stage play.
Respect to you for reading those extra 130+ chapters for this 💀😭🤣 I would have ended everything and act like I didn't see that 😆
Happy birthday jon
Thanks Jon I like this extended edition.
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I just enjoy lore and find history and myth mixed together interesting. Thank you so much ❤ xxxxxx
This is the first video of yours I've seen, but you have a major error about Johnny Depp not being a singer.
Johnny Depp came to Hollywood to become a musician and only became an actor because of Nic Cage. Johnny has also done singing parts in movies before. He was the lead in Cry Baby, which was made in the 80s or 90s.
his voice was dubbed in crybaby
It's amazing how many people can't wrap their heads around the idea that a work of fiction was just completely made up. Why assume it's based on a real killer?
Nerdy actress here: so the stage musical of course :) a theory though: in my mind the most likely part to be true is a struggling & unscrupulous baker using corpses in their pies at that time!
Holy Cow !! This story is more complicated than what excepted 😮 I've heard of the movie and play, and only glanced at film trailers. This is the first time I've heard the full story !!
45:09 That bit with the dog sounds like the Dog and Tucker Box. There’s an actual statue in NSW Australia of a dog sitting on a tucker box (lunch box) waiting for his owner. I can’t remember if it was a story or a real event but there was a man who had a dog. He would go to work and his dog would sit on the tucker box all day waiting for him. One day the man died at work and no one went to get the dog. It died sitting on the tucker box waiting for his master.
There was another version of Sweeney Todd from 1936 which was a British Drama. It was directed by George King and starred Tod Slaughter 😉😂
I am not joking that is the guy's name
I couldn’t help but turn my head when watching the gory parts of Tim Burton’s take on the story.
I've seen the play but not the movie. It does sound like something that could happen in the time period, well, all the mentioned time periods.
Great Compo!
This is the best one YET