I have found when you ask hard questions, church leaders tend to treat you as sacrelegious or as though you are in danger of thinking wierd or getting into left field. I am so thankful to have found Ken Johnson and his ministry. Tom
Glad I found this interview. Love Ken Johnson, he has a wealth of knowledge and the books he writes just add history and depth to the Bible. Fascinating stuff!
AWESOME! I am really appreciating having actual hope for a pre-trib rapture, while still trying to be very faithful to society whether or not it turns out that way. Thank you guys.
Found Ken recently. God answered me. I had about exhausted all the Chuck Missler content and was looking for another person with a ton of excellent content.
Dear Pastor Gary; Thank you so very much for your Real Time Devotions, I really enjoy listening to them. When I heard this one today with Guest Dr. Ken Johnson I was both enlightened and encouraged. I had heard some of the arguments, both for and against, the Pre tribulation rapture of the church. I really wanted to know the truth. I wondered what people of older times believed... Then this guest shared the findings in the Dead Sea Scrolls. WOW! That really does seal the way I have feel. This whole Real Time Devotional today has been very interesting. Gave me some food for thought. Glad to be a part of CC_GC. Thank you so much for all that you are doing for HIM. ( Hebrews 6:10)
It amazes me that folk want to restrict themselves to the Judeo Roman 'bible' when studying 'end-times', eg using the books of Moses, written sometime +/- 1400 BC. Moses writing about 'As in the days of Noah' [2500yrs later] is then just a 3rd hand witness, when Enoch, Noah and Abraham were much closer to the source as 1st hand witnesses. This is where the Dead Sea Scrolls play a part, clearly read by Yeshua in the 1st C. Judah selected their 24 OT books 90AD, rejecting the 70 books of the other 11 tribes. Ken is wise enough to get his information from original 1st hand sources [DSS] In addition to that, another starting point is not using the Roman calendar
The Messiah was 30 year's old when He died on calvery...HIS ministry was 70 weeks long to the Day... The 3 and a half year of the Church fathers is a lie of the Devil...full stop 🛑
Accept I'm world class and you can because you have my level of skill in principle. In principle you are me. Or we forget about this. Come on man. I don't got five bucks afford buy one female cook. If you know what I mean.
[ 35:11-30 ] "They don't really care a lot about the dispensations .. .. .. But you're saying even with the dispensations .. .. .. " ... Yeah ... I mean ... that's about the only thing ... you could say ... if there's different ages ... and things are different in different ages ... NO ... SALVATION was always the same ... Sure ... you're always saved BY FAITH believing in A COMING MESSIAH." { shouldn't it be? ... for us? LIVING IN THIS CHURCH AGE or AGE OF GRACE ... ACCORDING TO THE NEW COVENANT DISPENSATION: ... to-be CHRISTIANS ... we are to-be saved ... BY GRACE ... THROUGH THE ... continuing from faith-to-faith (Romans 1:17) ... FAITH ... as THE GIFT of GOD (Ephesians 8:12) ... having PERSONALLY REALIZED {Acts 2:36-37}... THE LORDSHIP & THE CHRISTHOOD OF JESUS ... as TO-BE PREACHED ... in these last few days (Matthew 24:14) .... THE EVANGELIZATION >>>> FOR our back-to-back INDIVIDUAL OBEDIENCE TO .... Matthew 28:19-20 with THE Acts 28:31 intended-UPDATING! >>> umpg.blogspot.com/2018/03/in-these-last-few-days-evangelization.html ? }
Can the rapture happen before all of the dead in Christ have died? And why would we need patience and faith? Mt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Da 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. 32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. 33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. Re 12:12 ¶ Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Da 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; 22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. Re 6:9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Re 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13 ¶ And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. 1Pe 4:12 ¶ Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. 16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
Exactly. He has a false way of interpreting the Bible. He disregards prophecy that G-d says will happen. He takes men’s (the supposed church fathers) words over the Bible because it matches “his” view and false beliefs.
Ken Johnson takes mans word over The Bible. Listen with open ears and make sure what he says matches with the Bible. He says a few end times things that have nothing to deal with the Bible and just a simple context match proves his view wrong.
Wonderful Interview! Dr. Ken Johnson is a Gift to the Body of Christ! Love the way he teaches!
I have found when you ask hard questions, church leaders tend to treat you as sacrelegious or as though you are in danger of thinking wierd or getting into left field. I am so thankful to have found Ken Johnson and his ministry. Tom
@bygvugxdtruvguugh244 - You could have placed a period 2 words after "Danger..." 😖
Glad I found this interview. Love Ken Johnson, he has a wealth of knowledge and the books he writes just add history and depth to the Bible. Fascinating stuff!
A wonderful Bible teacher.
AWESOME! I am really appreciating having actual hope for a pre-trib rapture, while still trying to be very faithful to society whether or not it turns out that way. Thank you guys.
Found Ken recently. God answered me. I had about exhausted all the Chuck Missler content and was looking for another person with a ton of excellent content.
Rev Johnson has a gift from God.
It was beautiful, thank you so much.God bless…..
Amen
Dear Pastor Gary; Thank you so very much for your Real Time Devotions, I really enjoy listening to them. When I heard this one today with Guest Dr. Ken Johnson I was both enlightened and encouraged. I had heard some of the arguments, both for and against, the Pre tribulation rapture of the church.
I really wanted to know the truth. I wondered what people of older times believed... Then this guest shared the findings in the Dead Sea Scrolls. WOW!
That really does seal the way I have feel. This whole Real Time Devotional today has been very interesting. Gave me some food for thought. Glad to be a part of CC_GC. Thank you so much for all that you are doing for HIM. ( Hebrews 6:10)
I'm fascinated, but it is very difficult to comprehend. I'll definitely listen to Dr. Johnson again. Thank you.
Great interview, Such wealth of information and insight. Thanks for sharing
God Bless you Dr Johnson
Fascinating stuff. Thank you 🙂
I would like to ask if the feet of iron and clay on denials statue could refer to China and Rusia?
So much for Sola Scriptura....
Paul..... wow.
It amazes me that folk want to restrict themselves to the Judeo Roman 'bible' when studying 'end-times', eg using the books of Moses, written sometime +/- 1400 BC.
Moses writing about 'As in the days of Noah' [2500yrs later] is then just a 3rd hand witness, when Enoch, Noah and Abraham were much closer to the source as 1st hand witnesses.
This is where the Dead Sea Scrolls play a part, clearly read by Yeshua in the 1st C.
Judah selected their 24 OT books 90AD, rejecting the 70 books of the other 11 tribes.
Ken is wise enough to get his information from original 1st hand sources [DSS]
In addition to that, another starting point is not using the Roman calendar
Is or wasn’t Dr. Ken Johnson a Calvary Chapel pastor?
He attends a Calvary Chapel in Kansas but has never been a pastor himself.
To say it isn't random I know this man is to study true randomness. We need statistics, measure theory, mereology... Things like that.
The Messiah was 30 year's old when He died on calvery...HIS ministry was 70 weeks long to the Day... The 3 and a half year of the Church fathers is a lie of the Devil...full stop 🛑
repent for your sins.
pray for ken johnson.
I would like to ask ken about the law about having pets chipped, is it a NEFARIOUS purpose
Accept I'm world class and you can because you have my level of skill in principle. In principle you are me. Or we forget about this. Come on man. I don't got five bucks afford buy one female cook. If you know what I mean.
[ 35:11-30 ] "They don't really care a lot about the dispensations .. .. .. But you're saying even with the dispensations .. .. .. "
... Yeah ... I mean ... that's about the only thing ... you could say ... if there's different ages ... and things are different in different ages
... NO ... SALVATION was always the same ... Sure ... you're always saved BY FAITH believing in A COMING MESSIAH."
{ shouldn't it be? ... for us? LIVING IN THIS CHURCH AGE or AGE OF GRACE ... ACCORDING TO THE NEW COVENANT DISPENSATION:
... to-be CHRISTIANS ... we are to-be saved ... BY GRACE ... THROUGH THE ... continuing from faith-to-faith (Romans 1:17) ... FAITH ... as THE GIFT of GOD (Ephesians 8:12)
... having PERSONALLY REALIZED {Acts 2:36-37}... THE LORDSHIP & THE CHRISTHOOD OF JESUS ... as TO-BE PREACHED ... in these last few days (Matthew 24:14)
.... THE EVANGELIZATION >>>> FOR our back-to-back INDIVIDUAL OBEDIENCE TO .... Matthew 28:19-20 with THE Acts 28:31 intended-UPDATING!
>>> umpg.blogspot.com/2018/03/in-these-last-few-days-evangelization.html ? }
Can the rapture happen before all of the dead in Christ have died? And why would we need patience and faith?
Mt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Da 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Re 12:12 ¶ Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Da 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Re 6:9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Re 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 ¶ And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
1Pe 4:12 ¶ Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
Exactly. He has a false way of interpreting the Bible. He disregards prophecy that G-d says will happen. He takes men’s (the supposed church fathers) words over the Bible because it matches “his” view and false beliefs.
@@GasparCortez13 Not so....
Ken Johnson takes mans word over The Bible. Listen with open ears and make sure what he says matches with the Bible. He says a few end times things that have nothing to deal with the Bible and just a simple context match proves his view wrong.
Chew up the meat, spit out the bones. Discernment is crucial. 👍