Hi guys. Enjoyed the video. For outboards I see a lot of people suggesting the Yamaha 2 stroke 9.9 hp. They are good but weigh 80-85 pounds. The Tahatsu/Nissan (same engine different sticker) weighs 57 pounds. It's what most of the charter fleets in the Caribbean use. If you want to go bigger, the Suzuki 15 or 20 hp (same block, different computer chip) 4-stroke is the weigh to go. It's electronically fuel injected so you won't ever have to clean a carburetor. It weighs 97 pounds. The Yamaha 2 stroke 15 weighs 85 pounds but is louder and uses way more fuel than the Suzuki. Good luck and fair winds!
Going across the Atlantic without an inflatable boat that can literally save your life if you had "problems" with UMA is the biggest thing I would be thinking about for the upgrade. You do touch upon Dory having sinking issues. Love you two talking about your trials and tribulations. Lot of knowledge you're passing around.
Hi UMA, you are in my home town. My old stomping grounds too. Lived there from 1959-1989 before life took me to Ga. worked on several boats and for a marine surveyor for awhile when I was in my teens. Have fun!
Love your videos and really great to see you hook up with "Learning the Lines" - Some months ago I suggested to them that they 'look you up'. Whilst not wishing to sound too much "health and safety" red tape - I was nonetheless a little concerned to note that neither of you use the kill cord when motoring Coco. There have been several serious accidents in recent years, even in small dinghies, with folks falling out and then getting 'run over' by their boat. In UK there have been fatalities over recent years and in July this year a man was found guilty of manslaughter after his girlfriend was killed by their dinghy after they fell out - no kill cord. I know that sounds a bit 'prudish' but as a sailing instructor the RYA (and the RNLI) drums the use of kill cords into us and - after all - its not that much hassle to clip it round your leg... Keep up the great work - fantastic videos... Mike (UK)
My cousin and her boyfriend were motoring from their boat to shore and got hit by a wave, the boat tossed them both and landed right on her boyfriend. His side and right leg looked like a jigsaw puzzle afterwards. It was awful. Things like that can happen in a heartbeat.
Love watching your videos guys. You were the first Sailing Vlog we found on TH-cam and it has inspired us to do the same and start our own channel to document us and our journey to sail around the world. We have a Pearson Albert 35. Can’t wait for your Atlantic crossing and to see what you all get into in the next year. Be safe✌🏽
Just upstream from the last rail bridge shot is the municipal 'marina' where I parked (and sold) Sylvia G in 2013. There is a memorial ashore marking the spot where the original white settler farmed before the fort of Fort Lauderdale was built. Your video brought back happy memories. Thanks.
Please don’t miss the opportunity to fish for Bass Peacocks in the canal. They can get quite large, they are excellent “action” fighters and ranked as a top choice for flavor and eating quality. They were originally imported to the canals from South American as a way to control other invasive exotic species that thrived in the canals. Although the names suggest they are Bass, because of their large mouth, they come from the cichlids family much like the Oscar.
Thanks for the post about Ft. Lauderdale. I live in West Palm Beach. I had no idea about the abandoned marina. I can't believe the posts telling you what size motor to get. I'm sure you appreciate the one you have. You were rowing the dinghy for a while. Thank you very much for the videos!!!
I've done 5 knots with 2 big people in my inflatable dinghy using our sail kit alone (which is a must have when the engine quits. A good hard floor tied into the transom makes planing easy with less power. You might need your dinghy to move your sailboat in an emergency so a larger engine would help especially in rough weather. Although you can only get on a plane in somewhat clam (or protected) waters... rough waters can really slow ya down especially with 3 or 4 people in the dinghy.
That marina was to make way for new housing and a new marina but that was many years ago. BTW I live at the end of the canal that Uma is on. Thanks for the ride.
@Stosh, thank you for posting this bit of information. I came to the comments section looking for why the marina was abandoned. I don't know why your comment doesn't have more likes. It should be way higher up!
Gidday from OZ, the reason that "Free Range Sailing" chose a porta boat instead of a R.I.B. was so that crocodiles could not climb in and it was easier to store on a small boat. They are circumnavigating Australia in a 30-foot sailing boat, "Mirral", that was built in Australia 50 years ago. They upgraded the porta boat and improved its design enormously. Well worth a look.
Yeah. They’re great for just going to and from shore. But we like to explore on our RIB, which means a larger outboard, which the portaboat just can’t handle.
Again, as always, thanks for posting. As I think more and more about the type of sailing I want to do in the near future it is very helpful to me to hear the research you've done, and the insights you have gained. It is greatly appreciated.
Fun way to spend the day and see some "different" things ! 15 hp is what you need to haul 4 or 6 people. Down side on larger engines is that they tend to have separate fuel tanks. There in weight between a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke outboards.. They don't sell 2 stroke engines in the US anymore, but they are still quite popular in most other parts of the world.
I'm so glad you are doing videos again! Whenever I'm out of motivation to 'do boat stuff' these fun videos are very helpful and help me realize again why I'm on a boat. :)))
Having purchased a similar sized and design dinghy this year (Highfield) I would definitely recommend the lightest 15hp you are able to find. We went with a Mercury 9.9 and with two of us in it we are still not able to get up on plane. People may say "should be able to" which is exactly why I went with the 9.9, but I can say first hand it just does not happen. With just me in it I jump right up on plane and then it is scary fast, but they just do not like weight.
6:52 I suddenly realized that you must have pulled up under that bridge, placed a camera, and then backtracked a bit and came through the bridge past the camera, and then gone back again under the bridge to collect the camera... just for that one shot. :)
@@SailingUma And those are the difference between a good channel and a great one!! You guys nail it every time! And it’s getting better as time goes on.....loving it! ❤️
Smart move getting it. Your vid pointed out the benefits. Sides to lean against or sit on and take a wave and you’ll be higher in the water than the old boat.
You guys are having too much fun!!! We've almost sunk a 18' RIB once, to bail it out just open the stern drain and go as fast as you can. The forces will suck the water out. Just don't forget to put the plugs back in before you stop.
Hey Dan, I found that a hydrofoil/whale tail gizmo that attaches to the motor really improved my dinghy's planing ability. But, they usually are mounted with bolted screws so that may make a difference in handling and stowing,???
Somehow it's nice to see you do things your way first but gradually come round to everyone else's way of thinking. Things are generally how they are for good reasons, but not always. You seem to be having a lot of fun on your journeys of discovery. I enjoy watching.
It's not that we didn't know ribs were better, but the porta bote came with Uma and we were living on $50 a week at the time. We just didn't let her shortcomings stop us from still exploring as much as we could. Just like we know life lines are important, we just haven't had the funds to install proper ones yet.
I take my hat off to you both for doing what you're doing. Your priorities are different to others it's not just the money (or lack of it). I re-read my last comment, I didn't mean it to sound condescending, I apologise for that. I dream of taking my family on an adventure, and I would have loved to do what you guys are doing 15 years ago.
Great video! You do a fantastic job editing and the subject matter is always interesting. You 2 have made the best choice, in my experience, choosing a hard bottom inflatable. I've been on the water over 50 years and when inflatables started really catching on, 30 some years ago, I made the switch and have never regreted it. Now a little advice from a salty old codger. I think your inflatable has Hypolon tubes, the longest lasting material, PVC doesn't hold so well in the Caribean sun. I know you put your dinghy up on the fore deck. If it is possible, leave the motor installed when lifting the dinghy aboard. I used a spare jib halliard to accomplish this and made a snap on 3 point bridal to lift it level. If you want to plane that little boat with 4 adults a 9.9 or 15 hp motor will be required. Stay far away from the 4 stroke motors. As you probably remember the Carabean is overun with Yamaha motors. That means parts and service will be easy to get. Be sure and stick with a 2-stroke they are available world wide, only here in the USA we have to suffer with the horrible power to weight ratio of the 4 strokes. Ask any marine mechanic about their issues. I can't wait to see your next adventures.
Great feedback. I still enjoy my 10' Porta-bote but it's also new so many of the shortcomings from years past have been worked-out. The transom is definitely better and I like the ability of simply strapping it to the stanchions. I actually ditched my RIB to get this one. Only real downside is the weight limits for the transom which can limit HP, especially when going with a 4-stroke. I believe your 5HP is a 2-stroke correct?
I'm sure that out there is a couple of kids who would just love to upgrade their little two strokes to a bigger one like your 5 HP. As a kid our Dad built us a dinghy but no motor, just oars. After many years of begging and hoping, Dad bought a Clinton 3 HP from Sears and a whole new world opened up for us! Craigs List will get it sold real fast kids.
Yet another great episode guys and I really enjoyed it. I know I said something similar to this when I commented on your live feed a couple months back, but since you're getting a bigger motor now you might want to consider getting an outboard mount on Uma herself instead of just hip towing. I say this because one I think it would be more efficient if and when you should have to motor again but also because big easy sailing had a dinghy destroyed by other boaters while hip towing. Apparently some of the power boaters thought it was funny the speed up and increase the size of their wake when they saw what was happening. I imagine in rough Seas it would have the same effect but that's the example I've seen which is all I can go by as I admittedly have zero real-world experience.
I had a 9.9hp Johnson and had the mechanic put a 15hp carburetor on it. This worked really well on my 12ft MFG. Don't know if this can still be done because this goes back like about 20 years. Fair seas
That little outboard does a good job. If you went with a 10hp. you could run around 20 knots per hour, but it will also use around 1/3rd to twice as much gas. This is one of those cases of what's better. saving time or money. lol. And I for one am SO glad you two got this new inflatable because that porta boat made me nervous and I wasn't even in it. lol.
Was in Alaska in Nome and working at a radio station. Had a lunch hour, so ran up to the local river, fishing, paying close attention to the water. Caught a salmon, and just as I pulled it in, had a 737 roar over my head, afterburners roaring as it took off ! Shocked the heck !!! … Recommend this stuff called Stabil (fuel stabilizer) if your not using the gas in your engine. Here, in two cycles (California) people even get this gas without corn gas in it. Helps a lot. Two cycle engines and carbs are finicky.
Hey guys, just want to say that I have watched every single episode. After several days of binge watching to catch up with like 100 episodes when I first found your channel, it sucks now having to wait for your videos to be published. :-) Seriously, love what you are doing and thank you for taking us along for the ride.
a year behind you I've started the same thing. I've got another year to catch up on, but at this rate it's not gonna be very long before I'm caught up and stuck waiting as well!
With your new electric motor, how many hours can you run it and then how many hours does it take to charge the batteries? I guess that question is both for the tropics where there is much sun and also for Norway where there is little sun.
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@@SailingUma Thanks. I should have posted this on the proper video but didn't. I've been following you for some time now and know you've had three different electric engine set ups. I was referring to the newest one.
The sped up dingy play was so cartoonishly fun! So, it looks smaller than Dory...at least the floor space. I realize 4 people can all sit on the pontoons, but it’s hard to tell if you can fit all of your water jugs?? I was wondering if you are able to deflate the pontoons and would that allow you to get it to squeeze into the cabin.... but I suppose if it’s tied down really snug it’s ok but it just seems like wind could sneak under it. Oh.... is that really that beat up dingy because she really cleaned up! It looks new!! (OMG tge end of that episode was sooooo funny! 😂)
So glad you upgraded. We did as well!. Just make sure you can handle lifting the outboard. Weight is an issue. But, more hp is great. Easy to upsell yourself. Weight on a 15hp is just a little more than a 10hp, then again a 20 hp is just a little more.
Hey guys cool episode🤙 FYI Suzuki make the worlds lightest (reliable)short shaft DT15hp 2 stroke at 33kgs, we recently purchased one new for our 3meter hypalon RIB with twin hull fibreglass hull, we upgraded from a 8 hp Mercury and man does she fly now...22 knots at WOT on the GPS with two people weighing 155kg combined and 20L fuel and anchor and assorted stuff in the under seat storage bag. We looked at 4 strokes but they are 46kgs minimum which is just to heavy to man handle on and off of the push pit rail when stowing for passage or beaching etc. FYI ..the Suzuki 9.9hp is a detuned version of the 15hp so for the same weight we went with the extra grunt, super glad we did it’s awesome to be able to tow water toys with the dinghy .🤙 Peace and fair winds from SV Breezy🌬⛵️🌏
We have an electric outboard too. But it's only good for short, slow trips. The difference is, our sailboat has sails, which take us everywhere we need to go. The dinghy doesn't, so we need a motor.
Thank you For answering my question. BTW we have aluminum bottom 10ft inflatable with Yamaha 6hp (2 strokes) and it planes with 2 people....with 3 (2 adults+10y) almost, almost
Great Dinghy. I do love my Livingston 8 footer with the Yamaha 8 HP. (it planes with two people but no groceries on board). Its nice to get on a plane and race around and cover distance like its a car. We do 20 miles like its nothing. But you do need to get into the two cylinder engines to avoid the vibration and noise. A 15 hp is the rocket but them bas*&^ are VERY HEAVY in the four stroke engines. The modern two strokes they sell outside of america are nice, (lighter) but once you get use to the quietness and torque of the four strokes, your hooked. Let the Dinghy Adventures begin. A whole new world will open up to you.
You were drinking my FAVORITE beer. I live in Utah and they dont sell Yuengling here. Why because Utah is a dryish state. yea they sell alcohol but not good beer like Yuengling. since this is my first comment on one of your videos i may as well say that you are my FAVORITE sailing channel. You guys are just the perfect amount of technical and fun out there. I think you Dan bring the methodical approach to your videos and Kika is fun and and a great personality. keep this going. I enjoy all your content.
I have a 11 foot rib and with 8hp it can barely get on plane with two people but with one person it rips. I upgraded to a 15hp and now nothing slows it down
You paid your dues with the portabot , 3 years is long enough! Can you wait until you get out of the country so you can buy a light wt 15 hp 2-stroke motor? ( Yamaha the brand of choice) The 4 strokes are almost twice the weight, complex and at our marina always breaking down or being difficult to start etc. But you will probably try and get a "deal" from somebody I assume . Great trip cheers Warren .
Gyus. You must use the cord that conect your rist in the motor switch. It doesn´t matter the sise of the motor, if you fall in the water, you be hurt by the propeller. You have to use it in any condition.
and outboard with no capt go in circles , so you may have to avoid the prop many times , which is why the safety cord was added . also you should always tie your motor to the boat the clamps are known to slip from time to time , in 40 years only had it happen once and having it tied is the only reason did not lose motor , love the video as entertaining as anything on cable and better then most.
I've watched every episode from day one and the one thing that comes across time and time again as that these two young adults seem to think they are indistructable and they don't respond well to suggestions about improving safety, you only need to look at the comments about their propane bottle storage inside the boat (thankfully they've finally got rid of propane} or the comments about life jackets and harnesses. I really enjoy this channel but fear that the impetousness of youth will get the better of them and they will learn a hard lesson - I truely hope I'm wrong
I don't think there is any harm in offering suggestions. The real issue is too many people don't offer them, they use self-righteous tones instead and make it sound like an order or insult them if they don't follow them. And they never state their appreciation for the video, just whine and moan. I think something like gets better results --- Hey ... great video. Loved the tour of Fort Lauderdale. We are up here in Saint Augustine and haven't made it down there yet, always great to get a heads up on things. I noticed that you weren't using the kill switch on the boat. We always use ours, I'm deathly afraid of falling overboard and either getting hit by the prop or just not being able to get back in. It's a bit of a pain at first, but over the years it's become a habit. But I know people who never use them and seem to still be alive, so to each their own. Anyway .. looking forward to your next video.
Great fun and great to watch ! Ref Coco, suggest Suzuki 4 stroke as great power to weight ratio, incredibly reliable and economic. To get on the plane trim the outboard in initially and as she picks up speed trim the outboard out (you will hear the engine sound less strained and the engine pick up revs as she hits the plane, at which point you cut back revs and maintain the same speed), you move quickly and save fuel. Exploring, then suggest you fit a keel guard (rubber type protector) to the keel, allows you to beach and drag Coco up the beach without causing too much damage. Finally to save pumping out the water install an elephants trunk through the transom which means if she is full of water you lower the trunk, start the engine and go forward, the water self drains, when empty close the elephants trunk, simples ! :) My RIBs have been flooded to transom depth and it works, may be slow at the start but soon clears the water out. Google it and if you get a grey wrinkly articulated thing that's not it, that's an elephant ! LOL Anyway hope that lets you enjoy life more and keep living the dream, please !
Thank you for the tour of Fort Lauderdale. What is the capacity of Coco? Will she be able to carry 4 people and dive gear or just the two of you and dive gear? I think you came up with a new sport at the abandoned marina-dingy pylon racing (lol)-downhill slalom racing on the water. Way to go!
You need a larger motor for coco. Also when operating your outboard motor, why are you not wearing the kill switch lanyard? There is no substitute for safety. Love your videos.
If you guys decide to get a new motor, you should get at least a 25 hp. It'll do everything you need, and will give you more entertainment options as well. You can water ski behind it and it'll be powerful enough to get you out of trouble if it happens.
That marina was never full.....it was right on the flight path for FLI and arriving planes deposited Jet A1 (fuel) all over new gelcoat...within a week your boat was not only black but slippery. Hard to clean and hard to live with. I moved on real quick.
I have a 10' aluminum bottom dinghy with a 15 hp.. With 2 people in it, I can achieve 19 nmph... Still go forever on 3 gallons, too. With 4 people, I cant usually get on step unless it's a bit choppy.. which ends up with everyone wet :)
I've owned RIBs for over 10 Years, and its a great choice. If you consider buying a new motor, id buy the Yamaha 9,9/15 (the old ones like 1999). They are very cheap, extremely reliable and very light for its horsepower. I've personally owned a couple, and I have loved them all. You probably wont plane with a 9,9 though.
I've seen other Sailors upgrade to a 20 horsepower motor on their tenders which is quite a bit more power then they need but they have said they quite enjoy having that power when you have as many people on board that you can fit plus a load of groceries or baggage and equipment and you get stuck in choppy water heading back to the boat or out on an Excursion and you need to get back quickly
And you can’t climb into the 8 foot Porta bote. I tried and it will fill the boat. They are pretty dangerous. We have a 14 that we use as a skiff. It works pretty nice. I don’t think I would be another.
Love your videos. If you want to keep costs down you might concider keeping your current motor but extending the handle so you can move the body weight more forward. You were so close I bet it's all you need. Of course handling a lighter weight motor has advantages as well. Peace
Hi guys. we upgraded to a Highfield 2.7m Rib and a Yamaha 6HP, 4 stroke before we left the UK. We would agree with everything you said. However, we wanted a 10HP 2 stroke, and you cant get them in Europe as they do not meet the emissions regulations... The daft thing is that the 4 stroke 6HP is so heavy the rib will only plane with one of us in it. If we had a 10HP, 2 stroke it would be less weight and would plane, making the longer journeys more efficient, having a lower environmental impact. The issue appears to be not about Co2 but the lubrication oil? Yet there are oil alternatives that are better or less destructive making 2 strokes as efficient if not better than 4 strokes. 4 Strokes also have very significant weight, manufacturing and component additions that make the overall carbon footprint or energy consumed to produce per horsepower, far higher than a 2 stroke. Finally, if you submerge a 4 stroke it takes a lot of work and sometimes component cost to recover. With a 2 stroke its a vey simple operation and generally if its not electronically controlled, do-able by the owner. So why the push for 4 strokes worldwide? The facts in their entirety dont follow the legislation? Discuss.... Rant over! Sail safe, Ant & Cid xx
It would be good if someone without any allegiance did the direct comparison in respect to HP, Co2, oil particles, impact environmentally and efficiency over distance? There is a a lot of information in the hive mind regarding water line length, weight, horsepower, etc. Our experience is that overall, two-stroke actually has less impact, given all the data may be better for the environment, considering the added Co2 impact of manufacturing a 4 stroke to a 2 stroke. Hopefully, dilithium crystal chamber technology is just around the corner, or Harry Potter will come back and with the "wand" and we will all have plasma inverter induction drives powered by sun light and the will to get to our destination :-) Ant & Cid xx
2 cycle vs 4 cycle, Since I am working up a AVON W400/WorkBoat, Here is the observation, Weight rating VS Transom Strength. Cause and effect: Always go for the maximum engine weight a rib can handle, which means 2 cycle outboard engines, higher Horsepower ratio per pound. Example my workboat can take a 40HP 2 cycle, But cannot use a 4 cycle outboard greater than a 25HP, because 4 cycle engines weigh more. Since UMA is moved with the outboard motor from time to time, I recommend an upgrade in transom strength (I already did this) to mine. Step one: increase thickness via application of 1/4 inch marine plywood inboard and outboard. Step two: 1/8 thick aluminum diamond plate, inboard and outboard. Step three: Aluminum Channel on top of the Transom which the outboard mounts on. Step four: 1/2 inch welds, aluminum diamond plate to aluminum channel, creating a sleeve that is lowered onto the transom/plywood and bolted in place. Step five: Mount outboard with lock plate which blocks the outboard motor transom fasteners from being accessed-Theft prevention. Step six: Tag Rib with GPS locater for recovery should it be lost over board or stolen. Yes I know this is a workboat upgrade, but I have seen the use your ship to shore dingy has been used. FYI: Hypalon is Superior to PVC, I prefer 1300 MIL-SPEC Hypalon, specifically original AVON RIBS or workboats, they can be purchased for 3 to 5 hundred dollars and will need about $200 to $300 dollars in repairs and some upgrades, like paint on Transom, patches and wear/rub reinforcements, in the end you end up with a hull that is 14.5 to 16 feet for a lot less than a new rib- love the old boats. Electric Guru, Seattle, Washington
Seriously Luv y'all adventures especially since your in my backyard...Fla... Im in Tampa and would luv to meet y'all before your back on the Hi Seas... 🤙🤙🤙🎽🎽🌊🌊✨✨🍻🍻
The Sirocco UL280 is only rated for a max 8 HP outboard. That should be enough to get the two of you (Team Uma) on a plane as long as you don't have too much stuff in the boat, maybe 50 pounds or so. If you want to be able to plane with 4 adults and skin diving gear, you'll probably need a 11.5 to 12' RIB with a 15 HP engine. That's a big RIB and engine for an Uma-size sailboat. If you are like most cruising couples, it will just be the two of you on Uma 90+% of the time. I suggest you get a 8-10 HP outboard for the UL280 and that should provide enough planing capabilities for Team Uma, though just enough with an 8 HP. Talk to Sirocco and see what their thoughts are for putting a 10 HP on the UL280. The extra 2 HP that a 10 HP engine will provide is likely to mean the difference between struggling to get Coco up on a plane with Team Uma and 50-100 lbs of stuff and easily getting on a plane with this load. My guess is that Sirocco will say your guarantee is void if you put more than a 8 HP engine on the rear. I suggest you borrow a 10 HP engine and see how the RIB floats with the extra weight of the 10 HP engine. It will probably be OK since a 10 HP doesn't weigh that much more than a 8 HP. Then consider enhancing the connection between the transom and the hyperlon tubes to handle the additional thrust of a 10 HP engine. Trying to accommodate a 15 HP engine with this approach is probably too much of a leap. When you have 2 guests on Uma, the four of you can chug along at 4 knots in the RIB.
I'd like to see some pics showing Coco on deck. I assume you're going to try some different motors out on the dinghy before buying. Also, are you sure the name of the new dinghy had nothing to do with the Pixar film of the same name? :)
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Hi guys. Enjoyed the video.
For outboards I see a lot of people suggesting the Yamaha 2 stroke 9.9 hp. They are good but weigh 80-85 pounds. The Tahatsu/Nissan (same engine different sticker) weighs 57 pounds. It's what most of the charter fleets in the Caribbean use.
If you want to go bigger, the Suzuki 15 or 20 hp (same block, different computer chip) 4-stroke is the weigh to go. It's electronically fuel injected so you won't ever have to clean a carburetor. It weighs 97 pounds. The Yamaha 2 stroke 15 weighs 85 pounds but is louder and uses way more fuel than the Suzuki.
Good luck and fair winds!
Going across the Atlantic without an inflatable boat that can literally save your life if you had "problems" with UMA is the biggest thing I would be thinking about for the upgrade. You do touch upon Dory having sinking issues. Love you two talking about your trials and tribulations. Lot of knowledge you're passing around.
Hi UMA, you are in my home town. My old stomping grounds too. Lived there from 1959-1989 before life took me to Ga. worked on several boats and for a marine surveyor for awhile when I was in my teens. Have fun!
Love your videos and really great to see you hook up with "Learning the Lines" - Some months ago I suggested to them that they 'look you up'.
Whilst not wishing to sound too much "health and safety" red tape - I was nonetheless a little concerned to note that neither of you use the kill cord when motoring Coco. There have been several serious accidents in recent years, even in small dinghies, with folks falling out and then getting 'run over' by their boat. In UK there have been fatalities over recent years and in July this year a man was found guilty of manslaughter after his girlfriend was killed by their dinghy after they fell out - no kill cord. I know that sounds a bit 'prudish' but as a sailing instructor the RYA (and the RNLI) drums the use of kill cords into us and - after all - its not that much hassle to clip it round your leg...
Keep up the great work - fantastic videos...
Mike (UK)
Second that on the kill cords!
My cousin and her boyfriend were motoring from their boat to shore and got hit by a wave, the boat tossed them both and landed right on her boyfriend. His side and right leg looked like a jigsaw puzzle afterwards. It was awful. Things like that can happen in a heartbeat.
Love watching your videos guys. You were the first Sailing Vlog we found on TH-cam and it has inspired us to do the same and start our own channel to document us and our journey to sail around the world. We have a Pearson Albert 35. Can’t wait for your Atlantic crossing and to see what you all get into in the next year. Be safe✌🏽
Just upstream from the last rail bridge shot is the municipal 'marina' where I parked (and sold) Sylvia G in 2013. There is a memorial ashore marking the spot where the original white settler farmed before the fort of Fort Lauderdale was built. Your video brought back happy memories. Thanks.
Please don’t miss the opportunity to fish for Bass Peacocks in the canal. They can get quite large, they are excellent “action” fighters and ranked as a top choice for flavor and eating quality. They were originally imported to the canals from South American as a way to control other invasive exotic species that thrived in the canals. Although the names suggest they are Bass, because of their large mouth, they come from the cichlids family much like the Oscar.
"I like the fact I don't have to sit on something hard.' Quick Look, laugh
Thanks for the post about Ft. Lauderdale. I live in West Palm Beach. I had no idea about the abandoned marina. I can't believe the posts telling you what size motor to get. I'm sure you appreciate the one you have. You were rowing the dinghy for a while. Thank you very much for the videos!!!
You guys are such a great couple...
Yes.... I feel like at the end of the day as I am binging to catch up, I feel like I can’t wait to go hang out with Dan and Kika!
Hey guys! Love all the upgrades and work you guys have been doing! Your next adventures sound like they will be a lot more fun!
I've done 5 knots with 2 big people in my inflatable dinghy using our sail kit alone (which is a must have when the engine quits. A good hard floor tied into the transom makes planing easy with less power. You might need your dinghy to move your sailboat in an emergency so a larger engine would help especially in rough weather. Although you can only get on a plane in somewhat clam (or protected) waters... rough waters can really slow ya down especially with 3 or 4 people in the dinghy.
That marina was to make way for new housing and a new marina but that was many years ago. BTW I live at the end of the canal that Uma is on. Thanks for the ride.
@Stosh, thank you for posting this bit of information. I came to the comments section looking for why the marina was abandoned. I don't know why your comment doesn't have more likes. It should be way higher up!
Gidday from OZ, the reason that "Free Range Sailing" chose a porta boat instead of a R.I.B. was so that crocodiles could not climb in and it was easier to store on a small boat. They are circumnavigating Australia in a 30-foot sailing boat, "Mirral", that was built in Australia 50 years ago. They upgraded the porta boat and improved its design enormously. Well worth a look.
Yeah. They’re great for just going to and from shore. But we like to explore on our RIB, which means a larger outboard, which the portaboat just can’t handle.
The joy and zeal you two go about life is infectious, keep it up.
Queen Kika, reclining in Coco. Love it.
Again, as always, thanks for posting. As I think more and more about the type of sailing I want to do in the near future it is very helpful to me to hear the research you've done, and the insights you have gained. It is greatly appreciated.
Fun way to spend the day and see some "different" things !
15 hp is what you need to haul 4 or 6 people. Down side on larger engines is that they tend to have separate fuel tanks. There in weight between a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke outboards.. They don't sell 2 stroke engines in the US anymore, but they are still quite popular in most other parts of the world.
We love Coco, ...Yes, a bigger motor will be Aces. Safe travels.
I'm so glad you are doing videos again! Whenever I'm out of motivation to 'do boat stuff' these fun videos are very helpful and help me realize again why I'm on a boat. :)))
Having purchased a similar sized and design dinghy this year (Highfield) I would definitely recommend the lightest 15hp you are able to find. We went with a Mercury 9.9 and with two of us in it we are still not able to get up on plane. People may say "should be able to" which is exactly why I went with the 9.9, but I can say first hand it just does not happen. With just me in it I jump right up on plane and then it is scary fast, but they just do not like weight.
6:52 I suddenly realized that you must have pulled up under that bridge, placed a camera, and then backtracked a bit and came through the bridge past the camera, and then gone back again under the bridge to collect the camera... just for that one shot. :)
The things we do for the shot 😆
@@SailingUma And those are the difference between a good channel and a great one!! You guys nail it every time! And it’s getting better as time goes on.....loving it! ❤️
Smart move getting it. Your vid pointed out the benefits. Sides to lean against or sit on and take a wave and you’ll be higher in the water than the old boat.
You guys are having too much fun!!! We've almost sunk a 18' RIB once, to bail it out just open the stern drain and go as fast as you can. The forces will suck the water out. Just don't forget to put the plugs back in before you stop.
Hey Dan, I found that a hydrofoil/whale tail gizmo that attaches to the motor really improved my dinghy's planing ability. But, they usually are mounted with bolted screws so that may make a difference in handling and stowing,???
Great video - glad you replaced Dorie with Coco - awesome upgrade! Cheers
Could you add a motor plate to the back of Uma for the outboard for the times you need to use power?
possibly you can prop down one or two degrees and then it will plain?
Somehow it's nice to see you do things your way first but gradually come round to everyone else's way of thinking. Things are generally how they are for good reasons, but not always. You seem to be having a lot of fun on your journeys of discovery. I enjoy watching.
It's not that we didn't know ribs were better, but the porta bote came with Uma and we were living on $50 a week at the time. We just didn't let her shortcomings stop us from still exploring as much as we could. Just like we know life lines are important, we just haven't had the funds to install proper ones yet.
I take my hat off to you both for doing what you're doing. Your priorities are different to others it's not just the money (or lack of it). I re-read my last comment, I didn't mean it to sound condescending, I apologise for that. I dream of taking my family on an adventure, and I would have loved to do what you guys are doing 15 years ago.
Great video! You do a fantastic job editing and the subject matter is always interesting. You 2 have made the best choice, in my experience, choosing a hard bottom inflatable. I've been on the water over 50 years and when inflatables started really catching on, 30 some years ago, I made the switch and have never regreted it. Now a little advice from a salty old codger. I think your inflatable has Hypolon tubes, the longest lasting material, PVC doesn't hold so well in the Caribean sun. I know you put your dinghy up on the fore deck. If it is possible, leave the motor installed when lifting the dinghy aboard. I used a spare jib halliard to accomplish this and made a snap on 3 point bridal to lift it level. If you want to plane that little boat with 4 adults a 9.9 or 15 hp motor will be required. Stay far away from the 4 stroke motors. As you probably remember the Carabean is overun with Yamaha motors. That means parts and service will be easy to get. Be sure and stick with a 2-stroke they are available world wide, only here in the USA we have to suffer with the horrible power to weight ratio of the 4 strokes. Ask any marine mechanic about their issues. I can't wait to see your next adventures.
Great feedback. I still enjoy my 10' Porta-bote but it's also new so many of the shortcomings from years past have been worked-out. The transom is definitely better and I like the ability of simply strapping it to the stanchions. I actually ditched my RIB to get this one. Only real downside is the weight limits for the transom which can limit HP, especially when going with a 4-stroke. I believe your 5HP is a 2-stroke correct?
That is so cool you guys are in my hood!
I'm sure that out there is a couple of kids who would just love to upgrade their little two strokes to a bigger one like your 5 HP. As a kid our Dad built us a dinghy but no motor, just oars. After many years of begging and hoping, Dad bought a Clinton 3 HP from Sears and a whole new world opened up for us! Craigs List will get it sold real fast kids.
I concur with the recommendation to get a 9.9 hp 2 stroke also having over 9.9 HP in some states requires you to register the inflatable boat.
We're registered in Canada, which means any tender with a motor needs to be registered.
I've had an old Nissan 8 hsp 2 stroke that was totally abused and loved it above and beyond any others... and there's been aplenty!
Love the new dinghy. Go with a 15 hp. Love the channel. Thanks for sharing.
Yet another great episode guys and I really enjoyed it. I know I said something similar to this when I commented on your live feed a couple months back, but since you're getting a bigger motor now you might want to consider getting an outboard mount on Uma herself instead of just hip towing. I say this because one I think it would be more efficient if and when you should have to motor again but also because big easy sailing had a dinghy destroyed by other boaters while hip towing. Apparently some of the power boaters thought it was funny the speed up and increase the size of their wake when they saw what was happening. I imagine in rough Seas it would have the same effect but that's the example I've seen which is all I can go by as I admittedly have zero real-world experience.
I had a 9.9hp Johnson and had the mechanic put a 15hp carburetor on it. This worked really well on my 12ft MFG. Don't know if this can still be done because this goes back like about 20 years. Fair seas
This looks like such fun.
That little outboard does a good job. If you went with a 10hp. you could run around 20 knots per hour, but it will also use around 1/3rd to twice as much gas. This is one of those cases of what's better. saving time or money. lol.
And I for one am SO glad you two got this new inflatable because that porta boat made me nervous and I wasn't even in it. lol.
Was in Alaska in Nome and working at a radio station. Had a lunch hour, so ran up to the local river, fishing, paying close attention to the water. Caught a salmon, and just as I pulled it in, had a 737 roar over my head, afterburners roaring as it took off ! Shocked the heck !!! … Recommend this stuff called Stabil (fuel stabilizer) if your not using the gas in your engine. Here, in two cycles (California) people even get this gas without corn gas in it. Helps a lot. Two cycle engines and carbs are finicky.
Hey guys, just want to say that I have watched every single episode. After several days of binge watching to catch up with like 100 episodes when I first found your channel, it sucks now having to wait for your videos to be published. :-) Seriously, love what you are doing and thank you for taking us along for the ride.
2nd that!
I did the first thing when I first discovered them! These videos are binge worthy.
a year behind you I've started the same thing. I've got another year to catch up on, but at this rate it's not gonna be very long before I'm caught up and stuck waiting as well!
@@essendossev362 LOL! Me too, a year behind, but we’ll eventually catch up and then the withdrawals start! 😆
Such a fun adventure! Go you!
With your new electric motor, how many hours can you run it and then how many hours does it take to charge the batteries? I guess that question is both for the tropics where there is much sun and also for Norway where there is little sun.
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@@SailingUma Thanks. I should have posted this on the proper video but didn't. I've been following you for some time now and know you've had three different electric engine set ups. I was referring to the newest one.
@@SailingUma I just re watched these two videos again but they didn't answer my question.
That boat is called a Craigcat
We have one with a 35 hp etech. They are made in Orlando FL
Loved it...coco ride awesome got me spinning ....that abandoned dock wow ~
Fun video to watch. Love seeing you guys laughing.
The sped up dingy play was so cartoonishly fun! So, it looks smaller than Dory...at least the floor space. I realize 4 people can all sit on the pontoons, but it’s hard to tell if you can fit all of your water jugs?? I was wondering if you are able to deflate the pontoons and would that allow you to get it to squeeze into the cabin.... but I suppose if it’s tied down really snug it’s ok but it just seems like wind could sneak under it. Oh.... is that really that beat up dingy because she really cleaned up! It looks new!! (OMG tge end of that episode was sooooo funny! 😂)
Hey guys, will y'all be releasing a video on how you rehabilitated your dinghy?
You'll have to ask Coco, we weren't there.
@@SailingUma could y'all pass a note? Coco, how did Dan and Kika save you? My dinghy is sad and I really want to save her.
That little boat you seen that look like it was on two little pontoons is called a Craig catamaran
Ken Leachman perfect for the flats!
So glad you upgraded. We did as well!. Just make sure you can handle lifting the outboard. Weight is an issue. But, more hp is great. Easy to upsell yourself. Weight on a 15hp is just a little more than a 10hp, then again a 20 hp is just a little more.
Before buying a new engine try dropping the prop down by pitch. This has a huge impact.
Hey guys cool episode🤙 FYI Suzuki make the worlds lightest (reliable)short shaft DT15hp 2 stroke at 33kgs, we recently purchased one new for our 3meter hypalon RIB with twin hull fibreglass hull, we upgraded from a 8 hp Mercury and man does she fly now...22 knots at WOT on the GPS with two people weighing 155kg combined and 20L fuel and anchor and assorted stuff in the under seat storage bag.
We looked at 4 strokes but they are 46kgs minimum which is just to heavy to man handle on and off of the push pit rail when stowing for passage or beaching etc.
FYI ..the Suzuki 9.9hp is a detuned version of the 15hp so for the same weight we went with the extra grunt, super glad we did it’s awesome to be able to tow water toys with the dinghy .🤙
Peace and fair winds from SV Breezy🌬⛵️🌏
I'm surprised you are not doing electric for the dinghy. All the arguments for avoiding diesel also apply for the petrol outboard.
We have an electric outboard too. But it's only good for short, slow trips. The difference is, our sailboat has sails, which take us everywhere we need to go. The dinghy doesn't, so we need a motor.
I imagine you tried trimming the motor up to lift the bow more ? That video of you guys being followed home by your dinghy is a riot !
i love the fact im not sitting on something hard dan HAHA kika no reaction best momment on one of your video
Thank you For answering my question. BTW we have aluminum bottom 10ft inflatable with Yamaha 6hp (2 strokes) and it planes with 2 people....with 3 (2 adults+10y) almost,
almost
Great Dinghy. I do love my Livingston 8 footer with the Yamaha 8 HP. (it planes with two people but no groceries on board). Its nice to get on a plane and race around and cover distance like its a car. We do 20 miles like its nothing. But you do need to get into the two cylinder engines to avoid the vibration and noise. A 15 hp is the rocket but them bas*&^ are VERY HEAVY in the four stroke engines. The modern two strokes they sell outside of america are nice, (lighter) but once you get use to the quietness and torque of the four strokes, your hooked. Let the Dinghy Adventures begin. A whole new world will open up to you.
You were drinking my FAVORITE beer. I live in Utah and they dont sell Yuengling here. Why because Utah is a dryish state. yea they sell alcohol but not good beer like Yuengling. since this is my first comment on one of your videos i may as well say that you are my FAVORITE sailing channel. You guys are just the perfect amount of technical and fun out there. I think you Dan bring the methodical approach to your videos and Kika is fun and and a great personality. keep this going. I enjoy all your content.
I have a 11 foot rib and with 8hp it can barely get on plane with two people but with one person it rips. I upgraded to a 15hp and now nothing slows it down
Why didn't you have a video of you getting the new dingy.
Good move on the upgrade. You guys are living the life. Fair winds
We're buying our first dingy and considering a DH310. How do you like the Scirocco so far?
Love it! It’s built so well and solid. Ours is the UL270 so it’s also super light which helps when pulling it up on deck.
Please never make that noise ever again Dan.
You paid your dues with the portabot , 3 years is long enough!
Can you wait until you get out of the country so you can buy a light wt 15 hp 2-stroke motor? ( Yamaha the brand of choice) The 4 strokes are almost twice the weight, complex and at our marina always breaking down or being difficult to start etc.
But you will probably try and get a "deal" from somebody I assume .
Great trip cheers Warren .
hey guys, if you do upgrade to a bigger engine you can put a harness on the engine and make a crane ti lift it on and off
A Kingair 200 made by Beechcraft at. 7:15. I flew those for a year.
Gyus. You must use the cord that conect your rist in the motor switch. It doesn´t matter the sise of the motor, if you fall in the water, you be hurt by the propeller. You have to use it in any condition.
and outboard with no capt go in circles , so you may have to avoid the prop many times , which is why the safety cord was added . also you should always tie your motor to the boat the clamps are known to slip from time to time , in 40 years only had it happen once and having it tied is the only reason did not lose motor , love the video as entertaining as anything on cable and better then most.
I've watched every episode from day one and the one thing that comes across time and time again as that these two young adults seem to think they are indistructable and they don't respond well to suggestions about improving safety, you only need to look at the comments about their propane bottle storage inside the boat (thankfully they've finally got rid of propane} or the comments about life jackets and harnesses. I really enjoy this channel but fear that the impetousness of youth will get the better of them and they will learn a hard lesson - I truely hope I'm wrong
Or, you could let them live their lives the way they want and stop being an old Grandma.
can't have a fun if they're dead.
I don't think there is any harm in offering suggestions. The real issue is too many people don't offer them, they use self-righteous tones instead and make it sound like an order or insult them if they don't follow them. And they never state their appreciation for the video, just whine and moan.
I think something like gets better results ---
Hey ... great video. Loved the tour of Fort Lauderdale. We are up here in Saint Augustine and haven't made it down there yet, always great to get a heads up on things.
I noticed that you weren't using the kill switch on the boat. We always use ours, I'm deathly afraid of falling overboard and either getting hit by the prop or just not being able to get back in. It's a bit of a pain at first, but over the years it's become a habit. But I know people who never use them and seem to still be alive, so to each their own.
Anyway .. looking forward to your next video.
On the plane, aren’t you the guys with the “no hurry to get anywhere” t-shirts? Six knots sounds like plenty fast enough to me...
i used to have a 25HP mercury 4 stroke on my 12 foot inflatable. went on plane and managed to outrun a storm at 30mph full out.
Great fun and great to watch ! Ref Coco, suggest Suzuki 4 stroke as great power to weight ratio, incredibly reliable and economic. To get on the plane trim the outboard in initially and as she picks up speed trim the outboard out (you will hear the engine sound less strained and the engine pick up revs as she hits the plane, at which point you cut back revs and maintain the same speed), you move quickly and save fuel. Exploring, then suggest you fit a keel guard (rubber type protector) to the keel, allows you to beach and drag Coco up the beach without causing too much damage. Finally to save pumping out the water install an elephants trunk through the transom which means if she is full of water you lower the trunk, start the engine and go forward, the water self drains, when empty close the elephants trunk, simples ! :) My RIBs have been flooded to transom depth and it works, may be slow at the start but soon clears the water out. Google it and if you get a grey wrinkly articulated thing that's not it, that's an elephant ! LOL Anyway hope that lets you enjoy life more and keep living the dream, please !
Thank you for the tour of Fort Lauderdale. What is the capacity of Coco? Will she be able to carry 4 people and dive gear or just the two of you and dive gear? I think you came up with a new sport at the abandoned marina-dingy pylon racing (lol)-downhill slalom racing on the water. Way to go!
I use a 4.5 single cylinder mercury on my Grampian 26. I used about 10 litres of fuel for the entire summer.
Also get two west marine floating cushions to sit on. Very cheap and they double as the life jacket requirement...
You need a larger motor for coco. Also when operating your outboard motor, why are you not wearing the kill switch lanyard? There is no substitute for safety. Love your videos.
Congrats on your dinghy!! There are some cool bars along the inter coastal. Fort Lauderdale is a fun place to visit!
If you guys decide to get a new motor, you should get at least a 25 hp. It'll do everything you need, and will give you more entertainment options as well. You can water ski behind it and it'll be powerful enough to get you out of trouble if it happens.
That marina was never full.....it was right on the flight path for FLI and arriving planes deposited Jet A1 (fuel) all over new gelcoat...within a week your boat was not only black but slippery. Hard to clean and hard to live with. I moved on real quick.
Great video as usual. Please show us how you get your dinghy onboard Uma and scoured.
cheers :-)
Jay
I have a 10' aluminum bottom dinghy with a 15 hp.. With 2 people in it, I can achieve 19 nmph... Still go forever on 3 gallons, too. With 4 people, I cant usually get on step unless it's a bit choppy.. which ends up with everyone wet :)
will it get up on plain if you are both in the back?
i am wondering if an electric outboard is being considered. fits the electric concept you have going.
Possibly as a second one. But not as our main. They work great for boat to shore, but not for exploring or going fast.
My 9 foot inflatable isnt a rib, it has aluminum floor. With a tiller extender and 3.5 hp motor I can plane in Smooth water if its just me.
I've owned RIBs for over 10 Years, and its a great choice. If you consider buying a new motor, id buy the Yamaha 9,9/15 (the old ones like 1999). They are very cheap, extremely reliable and very light for its horsepower. I've personally owned a couple, and I have loved them all. You probably wont plane with a 9,9 though.
Yamaha 9.9 (87 Lbs) works perfect for that type of Dinghy. We have a aluminum Highfield 10’ (87 lbs)
Thank you for getting your viewers sea sick with the spinning in the RIB
1 KNOT = 1 NAUTICAL MILE PER HOUR. OK, that was simpler than I thought it would be. BTW, is there any movement to make sailing all metric?
Doubt it. A Nautical Mile is based on Latitude and longitude and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Sweet, Reef Runner out👍
I've seen other Sailors upgrade to a 20 horsepower motor on their tenders which is quite a bit more power then they need but they have said they quite enjoy having that power when you have as many people on board that you can fit plus a load of groceries or baggage and equipment and you get stuck in choppy water heading back to the boat or out on an Excursion and you need to get back quickly
Exactly!
Set a good example..... always wear the kill cord.
And you can’t climb into the 8 foot Porta bote. I tried and it will fill the boat. They are pretty dangerous. We have a 14 that we use as a skiff. It works pretty nice. I don’t think I would be another.
we actually used to climb in and out of it no problem when we would go Free diving.
My next dinghy will be a canoe, with flotation and a outrig with sails
Hey, I've got one for you!
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Still better than what we did today. 👍 nice video guys. 🇨🇦
Love your videos.
If you want to keep costs down you might concider keeping your current motor but extending the handle so you can move the body weight more forward. You were so close I bet it's all you need. Of course handling a lighter weight motor has advantages as well.
Peace
Hi guys. we upgraded to a Highfield 2.7m Rib and a Yamaha 6HP, 4 stroke before we left the UK. We would agree with everything you said. However, we wanted a 10HP 2 stroke, and you cant get them in Europe as they do not meet the emissions regulations... The daft thing is that the 4 stroke 6HP is so heavy the rib will only plane with one of us in it. If we had a 10HP, 2 stroke it would be less weight and would plane, making the longer journeys more efficient, having a lower environmental impact. The issue appears to be not about Co2 but the lubrication oil? Yet there are oil alternatives that are better or less destructive making 2 strokes as efficient if not better than 4 strokes. 4 Strokes also have very significant weight, manufacturing and component additions that make the overall carbon footprint or energy consumed to produce per horsepower, far higher than a 2 stroke. Finally, if you submerge a 4 stroke it takes a lot of work and sometimes component cost to recover. With a 2 stroke its a vey simple operation and generally if its not electronically controlled, do-able by the owner. So why the push for 4 strokes worldwide? The facts in their entirety dont follow the legislation? Discuss.... Rant over! Sail safe, Ant & Cid xx
Yup. We're going 2 stroke again for all the reasons you mentioned. 4 strokes make sense on large center consoles, but little dinks like ours.
It would be good if someone without any allegiance did the direct comparison in respect to HP, Co2, oil particles, impact environmentally and efficiency over distance? There is a a lot of information in the hive mind regarding water line length, weight, horsepower, etc. Our experience is that overall, two-stroke actually has less impact, given all the data may be better for the environment, considering the added Co2 impact of manufacturing a 4 stroke to a 2 stroke. Hopefully, dilithium crystal chamber technology is just around the corner, or Harry Potter will come back and with the "wand" and we will all have plasma inverter induction drives powered by sun light and the will to get to our destination :-) Ant & Cid xx
You guys went by our house when you went through Lauderdale Marine Center near the 95 bridge 👍🏼
2 cycle vs 4 cycle, Since I am working up a AVON W400/WorkBoat, Here is the observation, Weight rating VS Transom Strength.
Cause and effect:
Always go for the maximum engine weight a rib can handle, which means 2 cycle outboard engines, higher Horsepower ratio per pound.
Example my workboat can take a 40HP 2 cycle, But cannot use a 4 cycle outboard greater than a 25HP, because 4 cycle engines weigh more.
Since UMA is moved with the outboard motor from time to time, I recommend an upgrade in transom strength (I already did this) to mine.
Step one: increase thickness via application of 1/4 inch marine plywood inboard and outboard.
Step two: 1/8 thick aluminum diamond plate, inboard and outboard.
Step three: Aluminum Channel on top of the Transom which the outboard mounts on.
Step four: 1/2 inch welds, aluminum diamond plate to aluminum channel, creating a sleeve that is lowered onto the transom/plywood and bolted in place.
Step five: Mount outboard with lock plate which blocks the outboard motor transom fasteners from being accessed-Theft prevention.
Step six: Tag Rib with GPS locater for recovery should it be lost over board or stolen.
Yes I know this is a workboat upgrade, but I have seen the use your ship to shore dingy has been used.
FYI: Hypalon is Superior to PVC, I prefer 1300 MIL-SPEC Hypalon, specifically original AVON RIBS or workboats, they can be purchased for 3 to 5 hundred dollars and will need about $200 to $300 dollars in repairs and some upgrades, like paint on Transom, patches and wear/rub reinforcements, in the end you end up with a hull that is 14.5 to 16 feet for a lot less than a new rib- love the old boats.
Electric Guru, Seattle, Washington
Where you going to buy that New Outboard?
There so expensive in the US...
Seriously Luv y'all adventures especially since your in my backyard...Fla... Im in Tampa and would luv to meet y'all before your back on the Hi Seas... 🤙🤙🤙🎽🎽🌊🌊✨✨🍻🍻
The Sirocco UL280 is only rated for a max 8 HP outboard. That should be enough to get the two of you (Team Uma) on a plane as long as you don't have too much stuff in the boat, maybe 50 pounds or so.
If you want to be able to plane with 4 adults and skin diving gear, you'll probably need a 11.5 to 12' RIB with a 15 HP engine. That's a big RIB and engine for an Uma-size sailboat. If you are like most cruising couples, it will just be the two of you on Uma 90+% of the time. I suggest you get a 8-10 HP outboard for the UL280 and that should provide enough planing capabilities for Team Uma, though just enough with an 8 HP. Talk to Sirocco and see what their thoughts are for putting a 10 HP on the UL280. The extra 2 HP that a 10 HP engine will provide is likely to mean the difference between struggling to get Coco up on a plane with Team Uma and 50-100 lbs of stuff and easily getting on a plane with this load. My guess is that Sirocco will say your guarantee is void if you put more than a 8 HP engine on the rear. I suggest you borrow a 10 HP engine and see how the RIB floats with the extra weight of the 10 HP engine. It will probably be OK since a 10 HP doesn't weigh that much more than a 8 HP. Then consider enhancing the connection between the transom and the hyperlon tubes to handle the additional thrust of a 10 HP engine. Trying to accommodate a 15 HP engine with this approach is probably too much of a leap.
When you have 2 guests on Uma, the four of you can chug along at 4 knots in the RIB.
Guess it is time to dump Uma and get a bigger boat, preferably with a transom garage for the big rib, eh? lol
“Guarantee is void”?
I'd like to see some pics showing Coco on deck. I assume you're going to try some different motors out on the dinghy before buying. Also, are you sure the name of the new dinghy had nothing to do with the Pixar film of the same name? :)
Haha nop only heard about that movie after we already had coco. Coco comes from siro↔cco (with the o and c flipped )