I think you missed the point of the movie, like 12 Years a Slave all the individuals in that time were in some sense a victim of the violence and the journey they embark on is both physical and metaphysical. The reconciliation that takes place is also underpinned by feminine power, something very pertinent today. You could argue the film is a post-revisionist Western!
Sam Baylis agreed, quite a few too many people in high places sympathizing with people they wouldn’t necessarily IRL. It has the 21st century written all over the dialogue. Still a spectacular movie, but not perfect, and that’s ok
Thought the film was absolutely awesome, if you don't mind a slow film. I found it to be really moving, I went in it not knowing what to expect and was pleasantly surprised, the ending was subtle but really moving. Great film.
lovely bloke is Robbie but I don't think hes great film reviewer been a bit critical of him in the past but that's just my opinion all tho this was one of his better ones hope he keeps improving because he seems like a decent bloke
Pretty much (for me) the film ultimately felt hollow. I saw what it was trying to do, and ai liked it, but I just didn’t feel the way I should of at the end, it just seemed phony and forced I didn’t feel like the character arcs were genuine based on what happened to them.
I have seen several critics all have a similar response to this film. I hate to use the phrase "they just didn't understand it" but honestly I don't know what else to say. Robbie says in this review "It doesn't grapple with the central issue very well". Well that's only true if he has correctly identified the central issue of the film, which I don't think he has. Redemption is the central issue of Hostiles not manifest destiny. Redemption, reconciliation and attempting to atone for what is essentially the unatoneable. When you realise that is what hostiles is attempting to explore, it suddenly becomes a very powerful film. It seems to me that critics all thought Hostiles couldn't possibly have been anything other than a critique of settler colonialism, when its actual focus is about how men attempt to reconcile lives of unimaginable violence, regardless of the setting.
I look forward to each of Robbie Collin's reviews, but I cannot actually WATCH them. I've got to start the video playing, then minimize the browser window so I can LISTEN. His nervous, childlike, squirming energy is just too visually distracting. It's endearing, I must admit, especially the way he picks incessantly at his beard. Don't change a thing, Mr. Collin, and please keep the reviews coming.
The depiction of the native American characters in this, if accurate, is saddening because it shows that not much has changed in terms of their representation on major Hollywood screens.
LEGO TUBE one white person??? You read that link or just scanned what you wanted to scan?!? There was multiple sections of Europeans engaging in scalping.
LEGO TUBE there are sections detailing a king scalping his enemies. You think he did this HIMSELF?!? Or he had his soldiers do this at his bidding. European soldiers are being told by their leaders to connect scalps. That is attitude of the culture led by the head of that culture.
There wasn't really enough scenes to make the character totally switch his murderous views. Some, but I didn't feel like he could change that dramatically without more reasons.
Didn’t think the story or more specifically what happens to the main characters is compelling enough to justify the ending or the character arcs blocker starts out a racist and murderer and ends up a kind hearted indian lover all cause of a few instances where they were forced to work together on the journey. This film could have been alot better. Its definitely not Dances With Wolves which conveys the same message but 1,000 times better and more compelling.
Did you walk in 10 mins into the movie? The movie starts with him opposite his friend who's talking about how weary and tired he is of everything they've done. Blocker sits there silently, offering no argument or defence for what they've done. He starts the movie weary and tired, looking forward to retirement - he's already on the same track as his friend. His friend is an expression of all the pain and sorrow he feels, just as Ben Foster's character is an expression of the bile and hatred that lives in his past. Both are aspects of himself. The movie is the journey of him confronting the past without ending up suicidal like his friend.
One of the best films of the last decades. Bar none. Also the reviewer having 'decades of Film review experience' highlighted the lack of native American 'character' in the move citing weak characters. Maybe this whistled over his head while he was writing his review whilst watching the film, but the point here is that the native Americans were in touch with nature, and their place in this land, and this didn't need to be spelled out, to 'expert reviewers'.
Didn't like Crazy Hearts and haven't watched his other films, but I'll give Hostiles a shot. Can't get enough of Westerns, even if the revisionist approach is becoming somewhat tedious.
Saw it yesterday, a depressing hideous mess of a movie, that rips off other westerns at every turn, opening with a settler family killed leaving the grieving mother alive, think Jerimiah Johnson's crazy lady, Rip off of lines from unforgiven "I've killed everything that walks or crawls", rip off of white land baron and shoot out from Open Range. Hollywood couldn't make a good or even decent movie if their lives depended on it, the main reason I pretty much only watch TH-cam now days. I give this disaster one steaming buffalo turd! With fly's, what was Wes Studi thinking when he signed on to this disaster.
Great film! 100% real, emotionally battering with one of the best endings I have seen in a while.
That moment when you search for a kermode movie review and find it's been reviewed by Robbie Collins instead 😶
I thought it was fantastic,good story,great acting and amazing cinematography.
I love this film soo much
I think you missed the point of the movie, like 12 Years a Slave all the individuals in that time were in some sense a victim of the violence and the journey they embark on is both physical and metaphysical. The reconciliation that takes place is also underpinned by feminine power, something very pertinent today. You could argue the film is a post-revisionist Western!
Sam Baylis agreed, quite a few too many people in high places sympathizing with people they wouldn’t necessarily IRL. It has the 21st century written all over the dialogue. Still a spectacular movie, but not perfect, and that’s ok
Thought the film was absolutely awesome, if you don't mind a slow film. I found it to be really moving, I went in it not knowing what to expect and was pleasantly surprised, the ending was subtle but really moving. Great film.
Hans you really are the Wurst..
Weird! I felt every moment of every scene was about the theme Robbie thought was tackled too briefly. lol.
Me too
Exactly. I would suspect that he didn't even watch it if he didn't describe other scenes so well.
This was a great review. I like robbie. My opinion matters greatly of course.
So really not one comment about the depth of character development as portrayed and communicated by the actors-which by the was was brilliant.
Not a mention of Max Richter
The filming, score and bale performance made this movie for me.
Only three reviews per week now?
By the way: I love Robbie Collins. I think he is very articulate and gives more insight into the films.
lovely bloke is Robbie but I don't think hes great film reviewer been a bit critical of him in the past but that's just my opinion all tho this was one of his better ones hope he keeps improving because he seems like a decent bloke
How he didn’t talk about the score
Excellent review, many thanks.
Pretty much (for me) the film ultimately felt hollow. I saw what it was trying to do, and ai liked it, but I just didn’t feel the way I should of at the end, it just seemed phony and forced I didn’t feel like the character arcs were genuine based on what happened to them.
I have seen several critics all have a similar response to this film. I hate to use the phrase "they just didn't understand it" but honestly I don't know what else to say. Robbie says in this review "It doesn't grapple with the central issue very well". Well that's only true if he has correctly identified the central issue of the film, which I don't think he has. Redemption is the central issue of Hostiles not manifest destiny. Redemption, reconciliation and attempting to atone for what is essentially the unatoneable. When you realise that is what hostiles is attempting to explore, it suddenly becomes a very powerful film. It seems to me that critics all thought Hostiles couldn't possibly have been anything other than a critique of settler colonialism, when its actual focus is about how men attempt to reconcile lives of unimaginable violence, regardless of the setting.
I look forward to each of Robbie Collin's reviews, but I cannot actually WATCH them. I've got to start the video playing, then minimize the browser window so I can LISTEN. His nervous, childlike, squirming energy is just too visually distracting. It's endearing, I must admit, especially the way he picks incessantly at his beard. Don't change a thing, Mr. Collin, and please keep the reviews coming.
The depiction of the native American characters in this, if accurate, is saddening because it shows that not much has changed in terms of their representation on major Hollywood screens.
LEGO TUBE this is either sarcasm or foolish. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
LEGO TUBE one white person??? You read that link or just scanned what you wanted to scan?!? There was multiple sections of Europeans engaging in scalping.
LEGO TUBE there are sections detailing a king scalping his enemies. You think he did this HIMSELF?!? Or he had his soldiers do this at his bidding. European soldiers are being told by their leaders to connect scalps. That is attitude of the culture led by the head of that culture.
There wasn't really enough scenes to make the character totally switch his murderous views. Some, but I didn't feel like he could change that dramatically without more reasons.
Didn’t think the story or more specifically what happens to the main characters is compelling enough to justify the ending or the character arcs blocker starts out a racist and murderer and ends up a kind hearted indian lover all cause of a few instances where they were forced to work together on the journey. This film could have been alot better. Its definitely not Dances With Wolves which conveys the same message but 1,000 times better and more compelling.
Did you walk in 10 mins into the movie? The movie starts with him opposite his friend who's talking about how weary and tired he is of everything they've done. Blocker sits there silently, offering no argument or defence for what they've done. He starts the movie weary and tired, looking forward to retirement - he's already on the same track as his friend. His friend is an expression of all the pain and sorrow he feels, just as Ben Foster's character is an expression of the bile and hatred that lives in his past. Both are aspects of himself. The movie is the journey of him confronting the past without ending up suicidal like his friend.
One of the best films of the last decades. Bar none. Also the reviewer having 'decades of Film review experience' highlighted the lack of native American 'character' in the move citing weak characters. Maybe this whistled over his head while he was writing his review whilst watching the film, but the point here is that the native Americans were in touch with nature, and their place in this land, and this didn't need to be spelled out, to 'expert reviewers'.
Beautiful film
That first joke honestly killed me.
Didn't like Crazy Hearts and haven't watched his other films, but I'll give Hostiles a shot. Can't get enough of Westerns, even if the revisionist approach is becoming somewhat tedious.
he says "basically" way too much.
"It was like he was trying to perform through a chapati on his face." Ahhh....i do like Robbie Collin.
great movie
This guy stinks. Depp in Black Mass was phenomenal
I didn't hate it.
Saw it yesterday, a depressing hideous mess of a movie, that rips off other westerns at every turn, opening with a settler family killed leaving the grieving mother alive, think Jerimiah Johnson's crazy lady, Rip off of lines from unforgiven "I've killed everything that walks or crawls", rip off of white land baron and shoot out from Open Range. Hollywood couldn't make a good or even decent movie if their lives depended on it, the main reason I pretty much only watch TH-cam now days. I give this disaster one steaming buffalo turd! With fly's, what was Wes Studi thinking when he signed on to this disaster.