After breaking 3 E strings (something I have not done in 15 years) on my new locking tuners, I saw this video and it worked the very first time! Thank you so much! I felt like a newbie snapping strings trying to learn locking tuners being different but this video made it a breeze!
A little less conversation, a little more action please, and don’t try and sell me anything. I already know what the best locking tuners are, where to get them, and I can guarantee they are much more cost effective than the ones you are hawking…
I've always tuned them this way, ever since i got my first set of locking tuners. I'm pretty sure it was written in the instructions, i assumed everyone did it this way. It works well and i can pretty much tell it's in tune by sight, as long as it's the same strings and gauge.
Hey man thank you so much for mentioning what angle the tuning pegs have to be. Many TH-camrs don't mention this and it helped a lot when I did it. I know it's something small and you can still restring your guitar using different angles. But this is the best and most efficient one. Not only that, it looks the nicest
Been using the schaller 6 in 1 locking tuners on my strat for almost 30 years now, never had to worry about this stuff, just put string in tune it & done, perfect. Also run a genuine Floyd Rose tremelo which has the locking nut as well, so really the guitar has no tuning issue at all. If you really got to start putting your tuners in positions like these before stringing up, I'm guessing a problem with your guitar isn't the only problem you've got
Schaller locking machines are killer. Didn't have a problem with mine, the short time I had them. Anything Schaller is awesome, I wish they would bring back their vintage copper finish and their tp6 tailpiece.
@@c.f.pedraza4057 I 1st found the schaller strap locks in a shop, then realised this is pretty cool, so easy & strong, it was then I saw the schaller locking tuning keys & used both of these items ever since. Even though I'm so happy with the performance & sound of my guitar, I have nothing but good things to say about Schaller, EMG, Floyd Rose. The other thing I am happy with is my Boss wireless & correct cable, this way I have great signal & no noise & a big shout out to my Mesa Boogie DC-5 combo
I don't get it either. I use the fender locking tuners and it's never been anything other than whack the strings in tune it and done, just came here to check if there was meant to be a 'proper' way to do it and no idea ppl had so many issues with this stuff.
I've been using Sperzels on my Strats since they were created. I pull the String straight through cut it and tune to pitch also have roller bearing nuts never had a problem with them slipping at all
Hi Jay. I had locking tuners fitted onto my PRS guitar two months ago by a tech. Everything went smoothly for a couple of weeks. The tuning was stable and it sounded great. Then I replaced the strings. I stretched them and made sure the screw on the side of the heads and the thumb screws were tight. It goes out of tune in seconds, especially the A and D strings! Within five seconds of tuning up to pitch, it's flat again! Do you think this method you've demonstrated here will fix that, or is it likely to be something else wrong?
Very handy esoteric restring tips there, thanks. It's all very logical yet i didn't know this naturally - just got an American Deluxe with those Fender locking tuners.
I wrap two or three wraps on thin strings, they will break or slip if not wrapped two or more times. Works for me. If you break your string,btoo short to retighten, if no extras, you buy a new set. I will multi wrap.
Thanks man, just put locking tuners on my Mex Strat,and was wondering the correct way to sting up...Why don't you have more subs, you're a freakin' monster on guitar!
Okay, sounds good, but most every other video out there about restringing with locking tuners says to align the string hole toward the nut. Straight (literally) and simple. I may have missed something, but I didn't hear any explanation as to why the non-zero hole angles help, or what they help with. Feel free to elucidate me.
Please..take the time to show us how to restring your locking guitar? It would be so helpful for us to see this; for not all as confident in these types of instruments and for good reason? Not all are as easy to manage while stringing or tuning with their locking mechanisms? As always, we love seeing your videos… and are so helpful and informative…thanks for your helpful videos and your patience for answering our questions. Thanks.
I have a 3+3 headstock. Should I use a 11, 10, 9, 3, 2, 1 pattern? How taught does the string need to be before tightening the screw lock and then winding? (I have ratio locking tuners as well).
I have Kluson locking tuners. I simply line the holes in the tuners up so they point directly at their slot in the nut, and I pull the string as taught as I can before locking it down in the tuner. The high E string always ends up being roughly 180-degrees from that when tuned to pitch. I never have an issue. What kinds of garbage locking tuners are people using to make them have to play these games?
I tried this and there are no windings around the peg heads. Left a slight bit of slack before tightening the locks. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Fender telecaster.
The idea is to avoid having any extraneous wraps around the peghead, so being below a full turn is ideal. The reason why I like a little extra string on the thin strings is more to avoid any chance of slippage. That being said, even my high E string doesn't have a full turn on the headstock.
I think those numbers might be for the height of the tuning posts. The Ratio tuners are the only tuners I know of that has different ratios for each key.
@@casseurpoisseux You are right to point out that his labeling is not symmetric. Also, I think 1 2 3 9 10 11 might be ideal. The 5 o'clock on the low E likely leaves the string around 12 o'clock when in tune which probably wears and stretches the wound string with a kink instead of evenly.
So you're talking about the angle to put it BEFORE the string goes in? And there will be a little bit of turning to tighten and tune the string right? So they won't END exactly at those positions, right?
I've had some great luck with the Gotoh vintage style ones. My Friedman has the self locking style and my Blue Tele has the one with the locking buttons. I prefer the ones with the locking buttons, but the self locking ones are quite great too :)
I wanted to add my technique as others may find it useful as well. I usually tune to Eb and find the way I do it more consistent and stable. I do the same 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5 as explained in the video but I allow enough slack on the low E, A, D and G strings for a little more than 1 full wrap when tuned to E 440. Then I leave more slack on the B and E strings to allow 2 full wraps when tuned to E 440. This has proven much more stable in my experience, especially if you bend alot. When detuning there is still enough string wrapped to support the locking function. I swear by this and find it extremely stable and consistent.
I have REALLY REALLY poor eyesight. So what I have to do is loosen the strings, cut at the 12th fret, THEN set the pegs at 1 2 3 3 4 5. Otherwise, I would have serious problems trying to find the pegs holes. Bottom line: I have ulterior motives for using this method 😊
oh shit I just realized, if it's a reverse headstock, the wind is also reverse and so is the direction of how the tuning pegs turn. so 1 oclock would actually be 11
Great video thanks for sharing! Just wondering what the recommended setup would be for a right hand guitar that has a reversed headstock with the low E (thickest) string now furtherest away? Thanks a lot!
The other half of the world uses les paul style guitars. What would be this method for that style of headstock when you have the thick and thin strings in the same area? Edit - got the answer from the comments. Need an update to include this or leave in the video description.
Great info! I keep having issues with The G and B string not wanting to stay in tune. Can you recommend some different things to check on to evaluate the problems like that?
If the other 4 strings are staying relatively in tune, my first instinct would be to get your nut looked at to make sure it is not catching the strings too tightly. A good tech can make sure those nut slots aren't too tight or too loose.
When I use that method my first three strings still tend to go out of tune when I do bendings. So I guess I need more winds on the higher strings but what’s the point of having locking tuners then? Has anyone experienced the same issue?
@@emzee1148 Yes I think so too. But my problem was that even with no wraps at all the strings tend to go out of tune after bendings. But now I am pretty sure this has nothing to do with the tuners but with the nut of the guitar. Thanks for responding tho
Hi, the reason why I give the first three strings a little more wrap is because I find that tiny amount of slack can help in putting more of a lock on the strings after you tune to pitch. My biggest problem with locking tuners on the high E string is slippage out of the hole. No matter how tight that thumbscrew is, the jerking tension of guitar bends is enough to get it slipping out if the string is just strung straight through with minimum winding. However, you don't need anything close to a full wind to get that effect going for you. It might be worth exploring other reasons why your guitar is going out of tune: things like your nut, string trees, and tremolo setup can have a way better effect on your tuning than any set of tuners you buy. For me,, I am a heavy handed player, so keeping a guitar in tune will always be a struggle for me. Good luck on solving the mystery of your guitar and thanks for writing!
@@JayLeonardJ thanks a lot for answering, I really appreciate it. I have discovered now that the reason why my guitar kept going out of tune had nothing to do with its locking tuners. After cleaning the nut a little bit and putting some lube on it the problem was more or less solved. My guitar is now staying in tune pretty good even after extreme string bendings. :) Keep up the good work, I'm really enjoying your content!
I was wondering the same thing. I think the logic he used here is that the high strings need more turns around the peg to avoid slipping than the low ones. Going by that, I think we can stick to 1-2-3-3 for the high ones, but then go to 4, 5 and even 6 o'clock for the 7th and 8th strings.
@@drtyslzy To be honest, I just got an 8-string and put new strings on it and it's my first time using the locking tuners properly. So my experience might not be super helpful. My problem wasn't with the thick low strings. I just put them all at 6 o'clock, and all the strings held well enough, except for the high e. My first one slipped out, and the second one, I looped it once, but it was still going out of tune the first 2-3 times. They seem to be OK now, though.
Pros and cons. I don't like them. See problems cited in Stringjoy's "Why I Changed My Mind About Locking Tuners". Also, "Locking Tuners Worth It? Advantages, Trade-Offs & Changing Strings". See also -- Landon Bailey -- "The truth about locking tuners". I've got three teles .. only one w/ the Fender locking tuners .. I personally find it harder to change than the old school styles, which I also have on my acoustics and bass guitars. I like the Stringjoy video "Why I Changed My Mind About Locking Tuners" for a balanced view on the topic, pros and cons, and for instances they might not be a good fit.
i just tried this the other night, and my problem has always been which position the strings go into the tuners before tuning to pitch. using this method with string joy .010-.048 on a fender with locking tuners, tuning it to pitch bends the e and a strings at an almost 45 degree angle, and has partially undone a few circles of the nickel would on the outside. also the strings buzz severely from the tuner area i put the strings in at around 6 and 5.
Thanks for writing! I find that, especially with the non wound strings, if you don't get a little bit of a turn in your peg, the string may actually slip out of the locking mechanism when you bend notes. With the stringing method I use, you don't get anywhere near to a full turn: you will, however, have the perfect amount of slack to prevent any slipping :)
I totally get that. String angle and post height influenced that decision for me. A little extra downward pressure gives me a little extra string stability and sustain that is worth the trade off. That being said, if you have really low tuning posts and an angled headstock, I would definitely forgo the trees as well :) Thanks for writing.
@@JayLeonardJ Those are the Best String Trees ( if you're going to use them ). I put some on my Vintage Strat, and they made a huge difference in Return to Pitch.
@@allenwhite1978 My strat doesn't have them, it came like that from factory, it works perfectly its an american deluxe hss 2006, there are a lot of other S style builders that don't use trees, besides the whole point of having staggered locking tuners to me is to avoid the extra friction on the trees, otherwise you are wasting the locking tuners.
@@Erickchicas I have the triple tree from reverend guitars it has no resistance. I guess I don’t understand how they’re wasted without it my G made weird overtones.
Thanks, slipping strings is the reason as mentioned in the video. But I don't like to do things unless it can be understood as to why it works. So why does this method work? Anyone know?
This locking system is all bullshit and it's a gimmick to make guitars sell. No guitar stays in tune all night or all day and even Gibsons electric mechanical system doesn't work either as it's known to break down! It takes years to learn guitar and many sacrifices are made but you don't have the time or patience to manually tune a fucking guitar? Really!
I found this unhelpful - what if you don't have an inline headstock or a strat-style guitar? Frustrating amount of talking, wish you would just demonstrate.
After breaking 3 E strings (something I have not done in 15 years) on my new locking tuners, I saw this video and it worked the very first time! Thank you so much! I felt like a newbie snapping strings trying to learn locking tuners being different but this video made it a breeze!
So glad this helped!! Happy Strumming :)
Can’t you just show us?
Lol that was the most complicated video for a simple, locking tuner. At this point, I’d rather get regular ones.
This is just an advertisement for those specific locking tuners
A little less conversation, a little more action please, and don’t try and sell me anything. I already know what the best locking tuners are, where to get them, and I can guarantee they are much more cost effective than the ones you are hawking…
I guess you go the opposite for the unwound stings on 3-3 and birdseye headstocks?
I know this comment is three years old, and maybe I am crazy, but didn't he literally show us how to do it, in this exact video? lol
I've always tuned them this way, ever since i got my first set of locking tuners. I'm pretty sure it was written in the instructions, i assumed everyone did it this way. It works well and i can pretty much tell it's in tune by sight, as long as it's the same strings and gauge.
Hey man thank you so much for mentioning what angle the tuning pegs have to be. Many TH-camrs don't mention this and it helped a lot when I did it. I know it's something small and you can still restring your guitar using different angles. But this is the best and most efficient one. Not only that, it looks the nicest
Been using the schaller 6 in 1 locking tuners on my strat for almost 30 years now, never had to worry about this stuff, just put string in tune it & done, perfect. Also run a genuine Floyd Rose tremelo which has the locking nut as well, so really the guitar has no tuning issue at all. If you really got to start putting your tuners in positions like these before stringing up, I'm guessing a problem with your guitar isn't the only problem you've got
Schaller locking machines are killer. Didn't have a problem with mine, the short time I had them. Anything Schaller is awesome, I wish they would bring back their vintage copper finish and their tp6 tailpiece.
@@c.f.pedraza4057 I 1st found the schaller strap locks in a shop, then realised this is pretty cool, so easy & strong, it was then I saw the schaller locking tuning keys & used both of these items ever since. Even though I'm so happy with the performance & sound of my guitar, I have nothing but good things to say about Schaller, EMG, Floyd Rose. The other thing I am happy with is my Boss wireless & correct cable, this way I have great signal & no noise & a big shout out to my Mesa Boogie DC-5 combo
I don't get it either. I use the fender locking tuners and it's never been anything other than whack the strings in tune it and done, just came here to check if there was meant to be a 'proper' way to do it and no idea ppl had so many issues with this stuff.
Last night it worked for me with my Squire Affinity, after I installed the original Fender Locking tuners 6 inline, very well. Thank you very much.
Great video! Most people don’t know that this is the proper usage of locking tuners.
Glad you dug it. Thanks for watching :)
I've been using Sperzels on my Strats since they were created. I pull the String straight through cut it and tune to pitch also have roller bearing nuts never had a problem with them slipping at all
Hi Jay. I had locking tuners fitted onto my PRS guitar two months ago by a tech. Everything went smoothly for a couple of weeks. The tuning was stable and it sounded great. Then I replaced the strings. I stretched them and made sure the screw on the side of the heads and the thumb screws were tight. It goes out of tune in seconds, especially the A and D strings! Within five seconds of tuning up to pitch, it's flat again!
Do you think this method you've demonstrated here will fix that, or is it likely to be something else wrong?
Super weird. Same string guages?
Very handy esoteric restring tips there, thanks. It's all very logical yet i didn't know this naturally - just got an American Deluxe with those Fender locking tuners.
You gotta love Stringjoy man. I'm on my second set by them. Their service in general is top notch.
Abraham Kinard, slinky’s all the way
The 1,2,3,3,4,5 works great with my Shaller locking tuners works great man. Thanks!
I wrap two or three wraps on thin strings, they will break or slip if not wrapped two or more times. Works for me. If you break your string,btoo short to retighten, if no extras, you buy a new set. I will multi wrap.
Exactly! And if the locking tuner comes, lose, forget it!
Thanks man, just put locking tuners on my Mex Strat,and was wondering the correct way to sting up...Why don't you have more subs, you're a freakin' monster on guitar!
Short and straightforward, I love it. Thank you!
Just bought my second guitar with locking tuners, after not bonding with the first. This is how I am doing it from now on
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This video helped me very much. I used 11-11-10-9-9-8-7 for a 7 string Jackson with reverse headstock. Thank you.
Cool, simple and effective system. Clever and easy to remember helpful name. This system is now Rocktopuss approved.
Yeah!!!
How about a PRS headstock with 3 pegs on each side?
Okay, sounds good, but most every other video out there about restringing with locking tuners says to align the string hole toward the nut. Straight (literally) and simple. I may have missed something, but I didn't hear any explanation as to why the non-zero hole angles help, or what they help with. Feel free to elucidate me.
I find that it prevents the string from slipping out the posts. That is why this is less and less alignment the thinner my strings get.
I have an Ernie ball headstock that has 4 tuners on one side and 2 on the other, what method should I use for that?
Ratio tuners vs Gotoh locking tuners…how would you compare or rate them?
Reverse headstock the same with the 1 2 3 3 4 5 method?
yes
Good stuff, thanks for sharing the knowledge.
1,2,3,3,4,5 is this the same for a lefty guitar or would the clock facings be different?
Please..take the time to show us how to restring your locking guitar? It would be so helpful for us to see this; for not all as confident in these types of instruments and for good reason? Not all are as easy to manage while stringing or tuning with their locking mechanisms?
As always, we love seeing your videos… and are so helpful and informative…thanks for your helpful videos and your patience for answering our questions. Thanks.
We can turn to drop D in locking tuners????
I have a 3+3 headstock. Should I use a 11, 10, 9, 3, 2, 1 pattern? How taught does the string need to be before tightening the screw lock and then winding? (I have ratio locking tuners as well).
I think the last three would be 3, 4, 5.
Do you have to stretch the strings out or no? I normally stretch them.
I tend to always stretch out strings regardless of guitar.
Interesting about the 123345 method. I will try it thanks;-)
Would this advice be any different for a Fender Tele or would I use the same angle?
I do the same for my Tele as well :)
@@JayLeonardJ great. Thanks Jay.
Would you recommend the same on a Jackson headstock with fixed bridge?
will try these i just broke 2 e strings with my locking
I have Kluson locking tuners. I simply line the holes in the tuners up so they point directly at their slot in the nut, and I pull the string as taught as I can before locking it down in the tuner. The high E string always ends up being roughly 180-degrees from that when tuned to pitch. I never have an issue. What kinds of garbage locking tuners are people using to make them have to play these games?
*How about 3+3 locking tuners?*
EAD are the same, then G=9 o clock, B=10 o'clock, and E=11 o'clock
@@JayLeonardJ Thank you 👍
I tried this and there are no windings around the peg heads. Left a slight bit of slack before tightening the locks. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Fender telecaster.
The idea is to avoid having any extraneous wraps around the peghead, so being below a full turn is ideal. The reason why I like a little extra string on the thin strings is more to avoid any chance of slippage. That being said, even my high E string doesn't have a full turn on the headstock.
00:40 I thought getting “boned” was the reason we became musicians 🤪
I thought most tuners had different ratios That's why they had little numbers on the inside of them when you go to put them on? Like 2.1 and stuff?
I think those numbers might be for the height of the tuning posts. The Ratio tuners are the only tuners I know of that has different ratios for each key.
Hey Jay, what do you recommend for a 3/3 headstock setup?
E 5 o'clock
A 4 o'clock
D 3 o'clock
G 9 o'clock
B 10 o'clock
E 11 o'clock
@@JayLeonardJ whats the difference between 5 oclock and 11 oclock? Is there any, or just easier to remember?
@@paulyflyer8154 The difference is to indicate which side the string goes in.
@@casseurpoisseux You are right to point out that his labeling is not symmetric. Also, I think 1 2 3 9 10 11 might be ideal. The 5 o'clock on the low E likely leaves the string around 12 o'clock when in tune which probably wears and stretches the wound string with a kink instead of evenly.
So you're talking about the angle to put it BEFORE the string goes in? And there will be a little bit of turning to tighten and tune the string right? So they won't END exactly at those positions, right?
Tremendous help. Thank bro!
What about for lefties?
Jay, do you have any experience/opinions on Gotoh vintage style locking tuners? I like the look for my Tele but no idea what to expect. Thanks.
I've had some great luck with the Gotoh vintage style ones. My Friedman has the self locking style and my Blue Tele has the one with the locking buttons. I prefer the ones with the locking buttons, but the self locking ones are quite great too :)
@@JayLeonardJ - Thank you.
Looks like you leave some slack in the string?
BUT HOW DO YOU REMOVE THE OLD STRINGS?
You don't. They just dissolve after a while.
Edible strings lol
I wanted to add my technique as others may find it useful as well. I usually tune to Eb and find the way I do it more consistent and stable.
I do the same 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5 as explained in the video but I allow enough slack on the low E, A, D and G strings for a little more than 1 full wrap when tuned to E 440. Then I leave more slack on the B and E strings to allow 2 full wraps when tuned to E 440. This has proven much more stable in my experience, especially if you bend alot. When detuning there is still enough string wrapped to support the locking function.
I swear by this and find it extremely stable and consistent.
Thanks JJ!
Are the tuners you are using the Graphtech Ratio machine tuners?
Yes they are. Really great tuners :)
I have REALLY REALLY poor eyesight. So what I have to do is loosen the strings, cut at the 12th fret, THEN set the pegs at 1 2 3 3 4 5. Otherwise, I would have serious problems trying to find the pegs holes. Bottom line: I have ulterior motives for using this method 😊
do you just do the inverse if it's a reverse headstock?
oh shit I just realized, if it's a reverse headstock, the wind is also reverse and so is the direction of how the tuning pegs turn. so 1 oclock would actually be 11
Your technique works well for in-line (6 in a column or row-however one sees it) but what do you recommend when the configuration is 3 + 3??
Low E: 5 o'clock
A: 4 o'clock
D: 3 o'clock
G: 9 o'clock
B: 10 o'clock
High E: 11 o'clock
I just happened on this video while trying Stringjoy strings for the 1st time on my strat.
Great video thanks for sharing! Just wondering what the recommended setup would be for a right hand guitar that has a reversed headstock with the low E (thickest) string now furtherest away? Thanks a lot!
The other half of the world uses les paul style guitars. What would be this method for that style of headstock when you have the thick and thin strings in the same area? Edit - got the answer from the comments. Need an update to include this or leave in the video description.
is this the same for 3+3 headstock?
He Andrew did you ever get an answer cause asked the same question. Joe
@@mobilegdo Hi no I did not get an answer I ended up following another video that was for a 3+3 Headstock
Yes yes yes thank you!
Just tune and play, I multi wrap on thin E & B. Break a string, lose a set. I buy bulk, but better use bulk before they rust.
Great info! I keep having issues with The G and B string not wanting to stay in tune. Can you recommend some different things to check on to evaluate the problems like that?
If the other 4 strings are staying relatively in tune, my first instinct would be to get your nut looked at to make sure it is not catching the strings too tightly. A good tech can make sure those nut slots aren't too tight or too loose.
I gotta say to me locking tuners sound crazy. they hold your strings by pinching on them? lol sounds like break city to me.
In my experience I always have a break at the saddles way before I get one at the headstock. So you should be good :)
Awesome nice tuning tip.
Glad you liked it!
@@JayLeonardJ works great with my guitar thanks man!
When I use that method my first three strings still tend to go out of tune when I do bendings. So I guess I need more winds on the higher strings but what’s the point of having locking tuners then? Has anyone experienced the same issue?
The more wraps you have, the more out of tune it will be when bending or using a vibrato/tremolo.
@@emzee1148 Yes I think so too. But my problem was that even with no wraps at all the strings tend to go out of tune after bendings. But now I am pretty sure this has nothing to do with the tuners but with the nut of the guitar. Thanks for responding tho
Hi, the reason why I give the first three strings a little more wrap is because I find that tiny amount of slack can help in putting more of a lock on the strings after you tune to pitch. My biggest problem with locking tuners on the high E string is slippage out of the hole. No matter how tight that thumbscrew is, the jerking tension of guitar bends is enough to get it slipping out if the string is just strung straight through with minimum winding.
However, you don't need anything close to a full wind to get that effect going for you. It might be worth exploring other reasons why your guitar is going out of tune: things like your nut, string trees, and tremolo setup can have a way better effect on your tuning than any set of tuners you buy. For me,, I am a heavy handed player, so keeping a guitar in tune will always be a struggle for me.
Good luck on solving the mystery of your guitar and thanks for writing!
@@JayLeonardJ thanks a lot for answering, I really appreciate it.
I have discovered now that the reason why my guitar kept going out of tune had nothing to do with its locking tuners. After cleaning the nut a little bit and putting some lube on it the problem was more or less solved. My guitar is now staying in tune pretty good even after extreme string bendings. :)
Keep up the good work, I'm really enjoying your content!
Any recommendations for 8-string using a 4/4 setup?
I was wondering the same thing. I think the logic he used here is that the high strings need more turns around the peg to avoid slipping than the low ones. Going by that, I think we can stick to 1-2-3-3 for the high ones, but then go to 4, 5 and even 6 o'clock for the 7th and 8th strings.
UVjoint hey! Thanks for the response!
How have your 7th and 8th strings been holding up in terms of needing to tune them less?
@@drtyslzy To be honest, I just got an 8-string and put new strings on it and it's my first time using the locking tuners properly. So my experience might not be super helpful.
My problem wasn't with the thick low strings. I just put them all at 6 o'clock, and all the strings held well enough, except for the high e. My first one slipped out, and the second one, I looped it once, but it was still going out of tune the first 2-3 times. They seem to be OK now, though.
This is spot on. Thank you!
Really appreciate it man!!
that tuning machine in the close up is pretty loosey goosehy
Thanks so much
tank you dude ! 1 2 33 4 5 I got it
Pros and cons. I don't like them. See problems cited in Stringjoy's "Why I Changed My Mind About Locking Tuners". Also, "Locking Tuners Worth It? Advantages, Trade-Offs & Changing Strings". See also -- Landon Bailey -- "The truth about locking tuners". I've got three teles .. only one w/ the Fender locking tuners .. I personally find it harder to change than the old school styles, which I also have on my acoustics and bass guitars. I like the Stringjoy video "Why I Changed My Mind About Locking Tuners" for a balanced view on the topic, pros and cons, and for instances they might not be a good fit.
Huh, interesting. So for us lefties it would be 11am (high E), 10am, 9am, 9am, 8am, 7am (low E)? I'll give that a go tonight!
Definitely :)
i just tried this the other night, and my problem has always been which position the strings go into the tuners before tuning to pitch. using this method with string joy .010-.048 on a fender with locking tuners, tuning it to pitch bends the e and a strings at an almost 45 degree angle, and has partially undone a few circles of the nickel would on the outside. also the strings buzz severely from the tuner area i put the strings in at around 6 and 5.
1:30
A bunch of links promoting your page but not for the locking tuners itself 😑😑😐
It is actually in there buried in the links. I'll put it on the top of the list to make it easier for you :)
@@JayLeonardJ it's me again 😂 Sorry. Thank you.
I'll try to like all your videos
It’s much easier to remember 543321
Jay....stop messin wit them Strats when we both know you want the Tele in hand.
Haha
i don't understand, why do you make spires? The essence of locking tuners is NO spires for tuning stability.
Thanks for writing! I find that, especially with the non wound strings, if you don't get a little bit of a turn in your peg, the string may actually slip out of the locking mechanism when you bend notes. With the stringing method I use, you don't get anywhere near to a full turn: you will, however, have the perfect amount of slack to prevent any slipping :)
It begins at 1:30.
It doesn't make sense to have locking tuners with string trees.
I totally get that.
String angle and post height influenced that decision for me. A little extra downward pressure gives me a little extra string stability and sustain that is worth the trade off.
That being said, if you have really low tuning posts and an angled headstock, I would definitely forgo the trees as well :) Thanks for writing.
@@JayLeonardJ Those are the Best String Trees ( if you're going to use them ). I put some on my Vintage Strat, and they made a huge difference in Return to Pitch.
Maybe on angled head stocks but strats need the extra break angle. I prefer a triple tree even with staggered tuners.
@@allenwhite1978 My strat doesn't have them, it came like that from factory, it works perfectly its an american deluxe hss 2006, there are a lot of other S style builders that don't use trees, besides the whole point of having staggered locking tuners to me is to avoid the extra friction on the trees, otherwise you are wasting the locking tuners.
@@Erickchicas I have the triple tree from reverend guitars it has no resistance. I guess I don’t understand how they’re wasted without it my G made weird overtones.
Explain why. I need to understand how your recommendation helps. There is no obvious reasoning behind your method.
If you don’t the high e usually doesn’t stay in tune. Especially low guage strings.
Thanks, slipping strings is the reason as mentioned in the video. But I don't like to do things unless it can be understood as to why it works. So why does this method work? Anyone know?
That’s the way fender instructed how to use them. It’s just the proper way to use locking tuners.
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This locking system is all bullshit and it's a gimmick to make guitars sell. No guitar stays in tune all night or all day and even Gibsons electric mechanical system doesn't work either as it's known to break down! It takes years to learn guitar and many sacrifices are made but you don't have the time or patience to manually tune a fucking guitar? Really!
I found this unhelpful - what if you don't have an inline headstock or a strat-style guitar? Frustrating amount of talking, wish you would just demonstrate.
That's a LOT of talking for a 10 second demo. Nobody cares what tuners you use, just demo the how they operate.
dude...just get to stringing the guitar..stop talking so much