Put a keyway in the shaft and hub. Have the set screw hold the key not the axel. You are putting torque into the weakest part. If you grounded the axel already it can still be done
SimpliSafe is the worst security system ever, thiefs actually prefer them over unsecured homes. Look it up. Why are you deceiving your viewers to buy a scam product?
Still can't get over the fact that there are enough people with personal little trains to keep that shop in business. Honestly Joel this is legit my childhood/teen/adult dream ever since I first went to a coal mine
@Dead Memes Even if that is the case, i would prefer to keep believing that there are some 1% folks who have miles of private mini-train track running through their estate
BIG BIG respect for you for actually asking and not just assuming that tracks are “abandoned” because you haven’t seen a train on them in 24 hours. And even more respect for actually listening and not doing it anyway.
I'll note, train guys are some of the nicest people you'll meet. It's a hobby that's allowed me a lot of opportunity from the people I meet. Of note on wheels, I've avoided set screws. The wheels on my equipment are pressed onto the axles, then have weld behind that. Even at 7.5in gauge (Half the size of this), I've seen wheels wander. A belt and braces approach may help.
Or, alternatively, he could drill a few holes along the seam between the axel and hub, tap them, and put bolts in there. If you do it right it could work, but that's kinda tricky to do with a hand drill. What may be better is to grind a few 'flats' on the axel and key the hub so that the hub is taking the torque on the faces, not the set screw. combine this with a bolt in the end of the axel, some washers (and some loctite), and you can set the depth of where the hub sits on the axel with where the flats end using the shoulder that that'd make.
@@MrRailroadrunner I mean, with a lock nut (not nylok, just a thinner nut) on a bolt in the middle of the shaft you can get it pretty dam secure. plus, threading direction can help with that. grinders have to deal with this issue and the solution there is make the thread so that the spinning shaft tightens it.
Oh my gosh I loved going to little America as a kid. When I saw it in the video I was like "no way is that the one I used to go to" but sure enough with a little Google search on maps it was super awesome to see that!
Same. Little America used to be bomb. We didn’t go very often because we would always get lost on the way there, but now I live near there. Excited for part two.
Have I ever mentioned that set screws are evil? Well they are. Cross-drill the hub and shaft for a roll-pin, tapered pin, or bolt and it'll never come loose in the field. (making a clamp hub is better, but much harder to do without a welder or machine tools) Fyi, using brake drums is brilliant. Amazing that they work so well. Should be a lot cheaper to get them finish machined as well.
Just use some of those little go kart spacer shaft keys. It’s a collar that slides on the shaft & you can lock it down rly tight cuz they have larger bolts.
@@michaelbenoit248 Go cart hubs are a good idea. They usually clamp on and are extremely solid. Don't know if you can find them for the axle diameter he used though?
This is awesome! I have a design for a solar powered rail car I hope to build one day. Brilliant idea to use the break drums as wheels! There's a few rails near salt lake you can ride with permission. I'm looking forward to the final result. Keep up the great work!
Someone has built and tested a solar powered rail cart somewhere in US. There are videos on TH-cam but I can't remember the name. They had to make a large surface area for the panels even just to move the carts weight plus one person. It looks a bit like those solar race cars in Australia.
You may have solved my wheel problem! I built my own “minecart” a few months ago and settled with pneumatic wheels. It does decently well and holds 40 gallons or 500 pounds of ore from the local gem mine
Joel, if you accidentally get completely hooked on small scale steam engines, I won't hold it against you. That stuff is so ccol. Stay in touch with those folks that showed you the workshop, it'll pay off.
It's really nice for once to see a youtuber who want to make thing-that-goes-on-rails start with correct wheel geometry first without learning that the hard way after finishing everything else first.
DDDDUUUDDDEEE!!!!! I WOORRRKKK THEERE AND ALEX IS MY BOSS! I LOVE RUNNING THE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES AND I WONDERED WHY I COULDNT RUN ON THAT DAY AND IT WAS YOU!! THATS SOOOOO COOOL!!
I'm so happy to have watched this cannel grow to the point that you could not only afford to do this project but you're getting more and more sponsors. Great job man, and great video!
A set screw is not going to be permanant enough. Based on my experiece with live steam models, even with the screw in a hole, it will still come loose. You're going to need something more permanant, like a pin, a rivet or welding. Glue is an option, but would probably not be enough on it's own.
Yes let's aquire wheels! *hyper focuses on the flange and dosent even mention the conical surface required for proper travel* It's funny cus the proprietary drawings you saw most likely mentioned it xD *also uses setscrews instead of pins to secure the wheels* Do you want this to fall off the the track?
Way cool of the park to let you use their facility! I definitely want to add that to my list of places to visit. Is it Little Amerricka in Marshall, WI?
Fun fact: Minecarts exist in real life, and they are used to transport supplies out of mines, by being filled with ore and taken to the surface for refining.
This is edited differently then your previous videos and its realllllly good. your old videos are still super good but in my opinion this is a good bit better.
Cross drilling for a pin is likely the better option, but if you grind an aggressive enough flat (like diameter/4) it should be fine with a set-screw and some loctite. I’d drill and tap a circular keyway into the shaft and drum you’d take care of the torque without having to worry about a pin shearing off, and maybe also add a pin to prevent it sliding down the shaft.
Dude! Yes! I was trying to build a portable rail cart a couple years ago that could easily be carried, disassembled and fit in the back seat of my car. I managed to build a working prototype but it wouldnt have lasted long term Im sure. The wheels were one of the biggest issues. I wish I had known that Cavalier brake drums would be a good fit! Wouldve saved sooo much time. The other big issue was real tracks have a variance in distance between rails. Especially in abandoned tracks, where I had measured over 3" in variance in some places. So I had to concoct an expandable drive axle. It was rickety af and noisy but it worked. Watching this made me want to finish it...if I ever get the time. Pretty cool man. 👍
OMG EVERY KIDS DREAM WHO PLAYS MINE-CRAFT ITS SO NOSTALGIC I REMEMBER WHEN THE MINE CARTS FIRST CAME OUT I USED TO MAKE ROLLER COASTERS ALL THE TIME MAN THANK YOU FOR RECREATING THAT MEMORY
go take a look at some live steam stuff there’s plenty of material on youtube and it’s a super informative hobby, especially when you’re trying to do something like this
I just love the premise and vibes of this video so much. "I like minecarts in minecraft so I wanted to do that in real life too" And the property owners letting you use their tracks too! That is so sweet, I love that you're allowed to do that. Hope the rest of the project goes well, good luck!
There used to be a railways mod on Minecraft. A couple of them actually. One of them, Rails of War, allowed you to model standard gauge locomotives, which are double the size of minecarts. So it totally makes sense that a minecart would be about the size of a narrow gauge railway.
This actually makes me wonder if there actually are places that let you build „your own train“ in this style over the course of a weekend or something. Could be fun
my city is covered in abandoned trolley tracks, and they really are abandoned. they decommissioned all of the cars over 40 years ago, and most of the tracks have been paved over during regular road repairs. there are still entire sections of street though that have never been repaved and they just have random tracks on them
This is going to be so cool! You have the perfect location and it looks like it'll be quite a ride when it gets going! +1 subscriber! Can't wait to see it all done!
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Put a keyway in the shaft and hub. Have the set screw hold the key not the axel. You are putting torque into the weakest part. If you grounded the axel already it can still be done
Did you ever come across discover live steam as you were doing this project
Also can you make a second car that attaches to the front via chain? Like it isnt driven, but is pulled?
SimpliSafe is the worst security system ever, thiefs actually prefer them over unsecured homes. Look it up.
Why are you deceiving your viewers to buy a scam product?
Still can't get over the fact that there are enough people with personal little trains to keep that shop in business. Honestly Joel this is legit my childhood/teen/adult dream ever since I first went to a coal mine
My time on the rails has left quite an impression on me as well
@Dead Memes Even if that is the case, i would prefer to keep believing that there are some 1% folks who have miles of private mini-train track running through their estate
@@epicthief Their has been in past at least. Walt Disney had one in the backyard of his home.
@@epicthief Little Amerricka started as a private track
You can make custom rollercoasters
There's nothing to stop you
There's videos of backyard rollercoasters
BIG BIG respect for you for actually asking and not just assuming that tracks are “abandoned” because you haven’t seen a train on them in 24 hours. And even more respect for actually listening and not doing it anyway.
You mean 24 minutes.
Wow
I'll note, train guys are some of the nicest people you'll meet. It's a hobby that's allowed me a lot of opportunity from the people I meet. Of note on wheels, I've avoided set screws. The wheels on my equipment are pressed onto the axles, then have weld behind that. Even at 7.5in gauge (Half the size of this), I've seen wheels wander. A belt and braces approach may help.
Or, alternatively, he could drill a few holes along the seam between the axel and hub, tap them, and put bolts in there. If you do it right it could work, but that's kinda tricky to do with a hand drill. What may be better is to grind a few 'flats' on the axel and key the hub so that the hub is taking the torque on the faces, not the set screw. combine this with a bolt in the end of the axel, some washers (and some loctite), and you can set the depth of where the hub sits on the axel with where the flats end using the shoulder that that'd make.
@@zerumsum1640 I reccomend against this. Even with Loctite, I've seen screws on equipment like this back out. Heck, I've had it happen to me.
@@MrRailroadrunner I mean, with a lock nut (not nylok, just a thinner nut) on a bolt in the middle of the shaft you can get it pretty dam secure. plus, threading direction can help with that. grinders have to deal with this issue and the solution there is make the thread so that the spinning shaft tightens it.
Hope Joel sees this
@@MrRailroadrunner most railfans are cringe ngl. ive met a few and all of them are foaming r3tards.
Duuuude I LOVE this thing! Freaking hardcore, so hyped to see the final version!
Let's goooo!
Let’s goooo!
haha hardcore
Let's goooo!
Haha, get it? Hardcore.., it's a minecraft game mode....
Oh my gosh I loved going to little America as a kid. When I saw it in the video I was like "no way is that the one I used to go to" but sure enough with a little Google search on maps it was super awesome to see that!
Haha same here, haven’t been there in ages!
same lmao kinda funny
Same. Little America used to be bomb. We didn’t go very often because we would always get lost on the way there, but now I live near there. Excited for part two.
Glad to see quite a few people know the feeling of going there!!!
Ah same! I remember when my grandpa use to to me out there as a kid a long time ago. Oh this brings back memories.
Have I ever mentioned that set screws are evil? Well they are. Cross-drill the hub and shaft for a roll-pin, tapered pin, or bolt and it'll never come loose in the field. (making a clamp hub is better, but much harder to do without a welder or machine tools)
Fyi, using brake drums is brilliant. Amazing that they work so well. Should be a lot cheaper to get them finish machined as well.
Just use some of those little go kart spacer shaft keys. It’s a collar that slides on the shaft & you can lock it down rly tight cuz they have larger bolts.
@@michaelbenoit248 Go cart hubs are a good idea. They usually clamp on and are extremely solid. Don't know if you can find them for the axle diameter he used though?
1:09 actual footage of an average day in my life
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You can say it's a.......TRAINWREAK
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This video is off the rails!
This is awesome! I have a design for a solar powered rail car I hope to build one day. Brilliant idea to use the break drums as wheels! There's a few rails near salt lake you can ride with permission. I'm looking forward to the final result. Keep up the great work!
Thanks man! Would love more info on the salt lake rails
@@JoelCreates I think its called Nevada Northern Railway Museum. I may have been off by an entire state. lol
Someone has built and tested a solar powered rail cart somewhere in US. There are videos on TH-cam but I can't remember the name. They had to make a large surface area for the panels even just to move the carts weight plus one person. It looks a bit like those solar race cars in Australia.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Awesome. I'll check that out!
You may have solved my wheel problem! I built my own “minecart” a few months ago and settled with pneumatic wheels. It does decently well and holds 40 gallons or 500 pounds of ore from the local gem mine
Huh??
@@lamarrotems huh
@@rainiest7731 wait what?
@@Musicalmane huh??
Joel, if you accidentally get completely hooked on small scale steam engines, I won't hold it against you. That stuff is so ccol. Stay in touch with those folks that showed you the workshop, it'll pay off.
Awesome project Joel! But also, CAN YOU FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STRAIGHTEN UP YOUR TH-cam PLAY BUTTON! IS DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!
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Lol Joel please straighten it so it's completely horizontal to mess with Integza
I think you are looking at it from the wrong angle
Just hang it upside down
@Samerez 00:58 in the left of the video background
It's really nice for once to see a youtuber who want to make thing-that-goes-on-rails start with correct wheel geometry first without learning that the hard way after finishing everything else first.
DDDDUUUDDDEEE!!!!! I WOORRRKKK THEERE AND ALEX IS MY BOSS! I LOVE RUNNING THE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES AND I WONDERED WHY I COULDNT RUN ON THAT DAY AND IT WAS YOU!! THATS SOOOOO COOOL!!
Wow, that's pretty cool!
omg at 2:17. that big loco has been in the works since like early 2020 but i didn't know the status of it until now. it looks good
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I haven't played Minecraft, I've seen a few videos on TH-cam but I know the tie ins are wonderful.
I mean you could've just put 5 iron ingots on a work bench but this is cool too
Jokes aside, this is incredible
That electric motor is cheating! You really should have made the rails out of solid gold ;)
this is actually cool and underrated
So those doodle chaos video's can be recreated in real life!??!!
I'm so happy to have watched this cannel grow to the point that you could not only afford to do this project but you're getting more and more sponsors. Great job man, and great video!
A set screw is not going to be permanant enough. Based on my experiece with live steam models, even with the screw in a hole, it will still come loose. You're going to need something more permanant, like a pin, a rivet or welding. Glue is an option, but would probably not be enough on it's own.
Yes let's aquire wheels!
*hyper focuses on the flange and dosent even mention the conical surface required for proper travel*
It's funny cus the proprietary drawings you saw most likely mentioned it xD
*also uses setscrews instead of pins to secure the wheels*
Do you want this to fall off the the track?
That train shop looks freakin cool! Slip in more footage of that for us in the comments 😉
its called live steam, you should check it out.
Way cool of the park to let you use their facility! I definitely want to add that to my list of places to visit. Is it Little Amerricka in Marshall, WI?
Yes, it is.
Yep!
My aunt used to work there
damn.
now i am very hyped for the next video.
I honestly still don’t know how this guy has only 178k subs, he really deserves more!
True, i hope he evetually gets the attention he deserves.
He raised to 200k in 5 days
That ad integration is *chef's kiss*
Sweet whip bro
im really excited for this project!
I knew you lived in Wisconsin!!!! I live in the fox valley! Love your videos man!
This was an INCREDIBLE video!
That track looks amazing :D
Fun fact: Minecarts exist in real life, and they are used to transport supplies out of mines, by being filled with ore and taken to the surface for refining.
Jesus man, every video is just more and more impressive. I cannot wait to see what nonsense you're building in 5 years.
This is underrated
This is edited differently then your previous videos and its realllllly good. your old videos are still super good but in my opinion this is a good bit better.
Cross drilling for a pin is likely the better option, but if you grind an aggressive enough flat (like diameter/4) it should be fine with a set-screw and some loctite. I’d drill and tap a circular keyway into the shaft and drum you’d take care of the torque without having to worry about a pin shearing off, and maybe also add a pin to prevent it sliding down the shaft.
Next video: "Making a real Nether portal"
That train shop is so rad! this is looking to be a good video.
Thank you for bringing light to the live steam community these people spend there whole lives building these little trains
Woah that train shop is CRAZY
The brake drums are inspired! This is so cool!
Amazing work so far! I look forward to seeing the finished result!
Make second cart connected to the back of it and solar power it for a whole day of fun!
Yes good
that’s sick
The child me is so happy right now.
OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING This is litteraly a child hood dream coming to life I adore it!
Dude! Yes! I was trying to build a portable rail cart a couple years ago that could easily be carried, disassembled and fit in the back seat of my car. I managed to build a working prototype but it wouldnt have lasted long term Im sure. The wheels were one of the biggest issues. I wish I had known that Cavalier brake drums would be a good fit! Wouldve saved sooo much time. The other big issue was real tracks have a variance in distance between rails. Especially in abandoned tracks, where I had measured over 3" in variance in some places. So I had to concoct an expandable drive axle. It was rickety af and noisy but it worked. Watching this made me want to finish it...if I ever get the time. Pretty cool man. 👍
I can’t wait for the final version because this is my dream come true!!!!!!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
We need to invest in this!
Hehehe... Whiskey River is a nice place
Really cool cant wait to see the rest!
what a funny little chewing character
New to this channel and Im all in!
This was legitimately my childhood dream, to have a lil' train that goes anywhere the rails do
Amazing work, man.
OMG EVERY KIDS DREAM WHO PLAYS MINE-CRAFT ITS SO NOSTALGIC I REMEMBER WHEN THE MINE CARTS FIRST CAME OUT I USED TO MAKE ROLLER COASTERS ALL THE TIME MAN THANK YOU FOR RECREATING THAT MEMORY
I can't believe that youtube have a really skilled bunch
Always good to get a Joel upload :)
This is a great video! You need way more subscribers
Those custom trains are awesome!
I love that you are a local TH-camr to me
I watched the ad without skipping just because it was entertaining as hell. Good job I normally skip to be honest but you did a perfect execution
go take a look at some live steam stuff
there’s plenty of material on youtube and it’s a super informative hobby, especially when you’re trying to do something like this
Noice idea.
Yep I'm sticking around
I hope this goes viral soon!
2:19 I know this is off-topic but as a railfan I'd like to point out how stunning the 15" gauge 4-12-2 looks so far.
I just love the premise and vibes of this video so much.
"I like minecarts in minecraft so I wanted to do that in real life too"
And the property owners letting you use their tracks too! That is so sweet, I love that you're allowed to do that. Hope the rest of the project goes well, good luck!
I love it! Can’t wait for the next one!
This is one of the best Minecraft animations I've ever seen in my entire life, the texture is almost life-like.
Your doing really good so far, this looks nice
This is very cool! I hope you finish it soon🗿
Those some nice trains they make
CAMERA MAN BE ZOOMING
i bet this guy built the best stuff in mc
hey the whiskey river.
really cool guys they are
Y'know, I never thought about low rides like that before outside of karts, but this already looks like fun! Astute work with the references as well.
I like the lamma part😆
There used to be a railways mod on Minecraft. A couple of them actually. One of them, Rails of War, allowed you to model standard gauge locomotives, which are double the size of minecarts. So it totally makes sense that a minecart would be about the size of a narrow gauge railway.
now to create that miniature railway in minecraft as a form of thanks
yo for real, you're awesome.
Anthony loves Little Amerika. Very cool they let you use the tracks.
bro this is awsome I bet you are going tog et a lot of views
did you know that "tog et" is Norwegian for "the train"?
@@JoelCreates No I didn't lol, a typo that actually relates.
Awesome idea and build. Don’t grind flat spots. Use a drill and dimple the shaft. It will leave more material at the connection point.
man, I love your channel
I'm so happy that someone is doing this correctly instead of just dressing up an RC car or something
This looks sick! Hope to see the final version soon
This actually makes me wonder if there actually are places that let you build „your own train“ in this style over the course of a weekend or something. Could be fun
my city is covered in abandoned trolley tracks, and they really are abandoned. they decommissioned all of the cars over 40 years ago, and most of the tracks have been paved over during regular road repairs. there are still entire sections of street though that have never been repaved and they just have random tracks on them
Epic
this is amazing i subbed. please finish the minecart
Next project - creating real life enchanted items
This is going to be so cool! You have the perfect location and it looks like it'll be quite a ride when it gets going!
+1 subscriber! Can't wait to see it all done!
First time seeing your channel Joel. Love the idea! Been imagining this since like 2010 😂 Can't wait for part 2. Definitely earned yourself a sub.
As someone slowly building a rail bike, this is extremely helpful
Awesome! Now make the tracks go up to the world height limit and drop all the way back down to the ground, that would be cool I think
Looking forward to the next part, best of luck with the build!