What part of rolling down your window and handing over your license without having to be asked for it non compliant? What law says you have to keep your window down while the cop is off writing your ticket/s? Which penal code states you can only speak in the most polite tone when dealing with police or anybody else? I didn’t know being kinda rude and not stepping out or sitting down within milliseconds of being barked at was grounds to be brutalized.
Exactly, cops don't know or care about the law. The argument "had he been compliant..". We shoudn't have to comply with cops orders, only the law. Any cop who thinks otherwise is unfit. There is no legal obligation to be nice to cops and whether they feel disrespected or not should not dictate whether you get wrestled to the ground or not. Has it ever occured to any cop that if you act nicely to those you stop maybe they'll be nicer to you?! These cops came out extremely unprofessional and disrespectful and just wanted to show force. I hope they get sacked, sued and denied their p**sy a*s qualified immunity. Even toddlers get held accountable to a further extent than cops. Cops are the only sovereign citizens in society, and the most violent and cowardly on top of that.
@@bobjohnson270 Why would he have to have his seatbelt on? The car was standing still. People like you who don't know your rights and who think obeying is the best way to live life are the reason tyranny can exist.
it's just common sense. you treat a fast food worker like he did and you get your food spit on. obviously anyone is going to be an ahole to you back if you're an ahole to them. that's life.
@@doc-vg9lq It's not that simple. Not everyone just have the right to act like an asshole because someone disrespects them. There's such a think called "proffesionalism" and that is something that we can demand of those who get paid by tax money. They are trained in using violence and they are armed to the teeth, the least we can expect is that they show restraint and respect. Those cops did not, they have most definitely violated many people's rights and it'a about time they get held accountable.
work at Starbucks, 75% of your customers have attitudes and are rude all day while taking their orders because social media says you can. See how your attitude is halfway through the shift, that is what cops receive daily with every stop! Ask a waitress if she thinks the customer is always right!
Nice analogy but you, miss a glaring difference - if you piss off a barista, he might spit in your latte - you piss off a cop he might kill you If you don’t like a job where you interface with the public that has the potential of being rude then get a job where you don’t have to do that - like maybe you could be a landscaper and go walk around, pushing a lawnmower with noise cancellation headphones on. Bottom line is, if you can’t deal with the requirements of the job, don’t take it - you don’t become a cook if you’re hyper averse to getting burned…
"If he just complied, it would all be just fine" is the worst excuse to ever give. And being disrespectful is not illegal. Stop getting so butt-hurt over not getting your way on something that they are not required to do.
search on youtube how many cops get shot during these stops. You walk up on someone being aggressive. Has tinted windows and the officers could not clearly see what Hill was doing. The officers have a right to safety as well.
@@bobjohnson270 Sure he has a RIGHT to stay safe, but he DOESN'T have a RIGHT to demand something he's not legally allowed to REQUIRE. and why don't you do the research and tell me how many cops get shot from behind tinted windows and see if is comes close to the number of people shot by cops behind tinted windows. I cited FBI statistics for shot and killed cops and killed civilians, now you put in the work and back up your argument with statistics as well. I realize my statistics were in a separate comment, I'll copy and paste that comment here: ""officer safety" is so overplayed it's ridiculous. how many times are cops getting shot at through tinted windows? Police were shot 378 times in 2023, 60 killed. Contrast that to 1,329 people killed by police in 2023, I couldn't find how many were actually shot. That's 24 times as many killed by cops than cops getting killed. No one from the outside looking in would suggest the cop should have more fear for their life than the object of their attention. The cops are 100% statistically more safe than their victims, i mean detainees."
I honestly hate this Cop mentality of "we dont know these cops, but because they are cops, we have to stand by the badge and stand together". Cops are literally trained in diffusing/de-escalating situations. Where was Cops gentleman attitude? Let alone professionalism to let Mr Hill know why they wanted the window down? none of them had it, none of them communicated properly and in literally less than a minute it went from handing over an ID to being face down on the ground. These cops are garbage, dont have the proper training and anyone that stands by this type of policing are also garbage. Just like this podcast. So you three know, It is okay for cops to call out other cops. Thats how you police your own. That is how Iron sharpens Iron. Dont blindly stand by eachother (the badge) and justify it by stating things like "Mr Hill lit the fuse", or "we hate tinted windows". They should have diffused the lit fuse, and communicated why they want the window down. That would have gone longer and with better results than expecting the civilian to adhere to cops prenotioned imaginary standards of expected safety.
Initial stop was for speeding (a moving violation), keep that in mind. He rolled up the window and the officer said I can pull you out. Then it went from I can pull you out to I will pull you out, to being slammed on the ground in less than 1 minute. Mr Hill stated that he would comply and they didn't give him even 60 seconds to. The officers were out of line 100% and very dangerous to escalate a traffic violation that fast. He even told them he had a injury and they didn't care. They are a liability to the tax payers in the community and should be off the street.
He did not fly by them at 100 mph. He did roll the window down and he did hand him his info. after he was stopped Hill did not break any law. He was disrespectful but that is not a crime. Once the cop got the info he should have walked away and wrote the ticket but he got made when Hill rolled the window back up which is not against the law. Only 7 seconds elapse from the time the cop banged on Hill's window the second time to the time he was pulled out of the vehicle by an out of control tyrant. Disrespect is not a crime, a cop losing his temper and ripping someone out of their car only 7 seconds after telling them to do something is ridiculous. Hill is an idiot but it's the cop who is the tyrant.
@@bobjohnson270 how can other non blk people show their lack of control over and over yet get treated with kid gloves? countless videos but I'm sure weasels are going to act like it doesn't happen.
@@caligreenclean lol what? if you watch police body cams and EVERY incident where something tragic happens to a black person by police it's always because they don't cooperate. Just like with Tyreek where it was just dumb the way he acted for no reason other than acting entitled. It's not hard to cooperate if you did nothing wrong. For some reason so many black people in particular just can't cooperate with authority figures. Stuff like this doesn't happen to white, azn, etc. people much because they cooperate. it's not hard.
@@JStryker7 It's still not, there is no law requiring the window be all the way down. He didn't get pulled over for tinted windows nor did he get a ticket for it so not a problem. You have to learn that you only have to do what the law requires, license, proof of insurance, and registration if it's required. But nowhere does it state that you have to have your window down. You don't have to do anything a cop says, which is why it's called a lawful order, can only tell you to do something that's supported by law. Otherwise officer safety and anything else just supports their feelings, no one is obligated to follow their feelings.
Their whole response leads me to believe that they didn't. But on the other hand, this was an informative video in how police investigate themselves and convince themselves that they're right and you were wrong. They conclude normally that the subject of the stop HAD to do something to start the escalation which leads to justification of the action cops end up taking. It happens ALL THE TIME with internal investigations. That's 100% what these three were doing here.
Mr Hill did comply. He immediately pulled over rolled down his window and handed the cop his license. He is not required to keep his window down. If a man sitting in a car with the window up scares you maybe you should find a different job. It is not ok to violently attack someone just because you think he disrespects you. Police should be able to handle that.
It doesn't matter do you know if a officer can't articulate seeing a weapon in the vehicle or something that can harm him it's not the law that he has to get out of the vehicle. Articulable suspicion that his life may be in danger That's what gives you the right to remove them from the car. It's case law and if people read the case law and it's totality they would understand police just do shit just to do it.
And how he exit the car he lit the fuse well he was snatched out of the car so he didn't have time to exit so they lit the fuse it's called de-escalation not escalation.
SOOOOOO, you should always just comply when a COP tells you to do something? Ha, this isn't North Korea, we have rights to ask questions. Cops do not have special rights! We should not just HAVE to COMPLY!
In this day and age where everything is recorded, why not not? Comply, and if you don't like something that was done, sue them. You lose at first by biting your tongue and complying, but you win in the end with that paycheck 💪🏼 The other problem is when good cops don't correct the bad cops behavior over fear of reprocussions from their "brothers in blue" I think it's bullshit.
what questions did Tyreke ask... he acted like a jerk. Officers have to take their safety in account as well. Cops get shot and killed during these "routine" stops.
how? Tyreke sped through a construction zone. He got pulled over and because of his ego he became confrontational right from the start. He didn't even have his seatbelt on. He even lied after the game on what happened. The officer who pulled him over didn't even know who he was. Officers get shot during these stops. They have to take their safety into account as well.
@@bobjohnson270 I completely agree. It was not until the cop approached that the other players ahead of Tyreek that the officer was advised who these guys are.
Cops shouldn't REACT to however the person being pulled over is reacting! Cops HAVE de-escalation training! They do not have the right to go hands on because someone is not rolling down their window!
this is total crap. How he acted is why the cops acted as they did? Cops just want people to comply? They are professionals and need to do their jobs properly. The escalation is the result of the cops. You dont have to be nice to police, you don't have to keep your window down. The cop was on a ego trip and showed it. You guys suck.
actually keeping innocent people safe is what matters most in a country with rampant crime due to lax laws. If you owned anything, didn't have a criminal record, and were at least a respectable person in society you'd probably care more about law enforcement too instead of seeing the police as the bad guys.
Are you guys serious... ? Did you even watch the video.. the Driver Gave the police his papers. he even cracked the window when he was asked to bring it down.. Unbelievable
@@lisastupia2855 What Law states that you have to roll your Windows All the way down ? He just have to have it down enough to facilitate conversation and exchange of document, if any.
Amazing how sensitive cops are. Their egos are so fragile. Hill wasn't going 103 Red Fairport Guy. Looked like 60 to 70... which he shouldn't be doing. And he is a dumbass for not wearing his seatbelt in that machine. And why are the windows tinted? ... are you looking for trouble? But he is a member of the public and people make mistakes and it isn't the cops job to punish him at the stop. That's the job of the judiciary. They were thugs and assaulted him. Two wrongs don't make a right. There is obviously a problem with that department if they think that was appropriate and if they think they can get away with it. That cop needs to toughen up. Tyreek needs to get some class to go with that McClaren. Should be a law that you need to have class to drive a mcclaren.
Apparently, you didn’t watch the video. The first thing he did is have his window down with the license insurance in his hand. The officer walked up so if you want to put all this on him, that’s OK but actually they just freaking violated his fourth amendment right by dragging him out of the car him For a goddamn moving violation which is a civil fraction and like he said just go ahead write the ticket and I’ll take care of it but the cop didn’t wanna go that way he wanted to be a tough guy and show him that he’s more important in life, his victims rights in America
You wanna talk about triple-down mocking? I GUARANTEE you that Danny Torres was down at the local cop bar that night talkin' a MILE o' SH!T about how he went all LINEBACKER on Reek and took that mofo DOWN like a beyotch!!! The mentality displayed on this breakdown is the core of police culture and the heart of the problem.
@@lisastupia2855 Not sure what your question is exactly. As far as I know Tyreek Hill did not challenge the speeding violation nor the seatbelt ticket. As far a complying goes, from what I see in the video, he is; clearly not as quickly as the officers would like, but he is not refusing to follow their lawful orders at any time. They unnecessarily escalated the situation much too quickly to be justified by any claims, officer safety or otherwise. Danny Torres has been suspended SIX TIMES in his career (most, if not all, as a result of excessive force being used). So people can have their varying opinions about whether or not Hill was complying with lawful orders but the excessive use of force is undeniable. The "Graham factors" are what is (and probably will be) used in determining this and they all favor Tyreek Hill . . . Severity of the crime Whether the suspect is actively resisting or attempting to flee Whether the suspect poses an immediate danger to anyone . . . officer Torres is 100% in the wrong, both in pulling him from the car and handcuffing him face down on the pavement, as well as forcing him to sit on the ground later on. We're not hearing anything about any of this because Miami-Dade is hoping it all dies down and stops getting attention. But I hope that doesn't happen. This officer was clearly out of line and has done it numerous times in the past - it's time he gets held accountable.
Just like good ol' boys to stand up for good ol' boys. No one said Tyreek was a model citizen here. And in my opinion he didn't really directly or intentionally disrespect the officers, he handed the license and said he was ready to pay so he could go (to his Job). He was in a hurry for a game and being short, not an excuse, he could have left earlier and drove safer. But that one cop that aggressively pulled him out of the car and was being a verbal bully and putting everyone in handcuffs needs at the very least a suspension to take some deescalation and anger management courses.
Comply. Comply. Comply. That's what people say. But aggression met with aggression they want to say that the police are just doing their jobs and you should comply. How about the officer not be a dick? Yes, Tyreek was being a dick but he was giving back the energy that was put out. SO ESH....
the cop wasn't being a dick. He walked up and tapped on the window as Tyreke was on the phone and not paying attention. Also without his seatbelt on. As soon as the officer was trying to talk to him he was confrontational.
Also, you need to get your page checked because you can’t hit the thumbs down it says error or is no one allowed to say anything against what you’re saying on your TH-cam channel or the fact that you’re wrong about this situation
1st amendment allows him to be as verbally disrespectful as he wants per SCOTUS. The "officer" was out of control to begin with. If you can't take the talk then find another line of work. If you are that scared of tinted windows, find another job. Nobody has forced any cop into the job and they knew the risk when they raised their right hand and swore to uphold citizens' rights and ALL of our constitutional rights, not just the ones they want to pick and choose. Get the facts on the speed before you make a "statement". What happens when you assume??? Know the facts first.
Go see how many cops get shot during these stops and maybe you will have a different view. These guys have families to go home to as well. Its an easy thing to keep a window down and not be confrontational. It was Tyrekes actions that lead to him being pulled over and his ego that escalated this.
@@bobjohnson270 being a cop comes with inherent risks. Electricians and farmers have deadlier jobs than law enforcement. If you're not okay with that when you take the job, then you shouldn't be paid to do that job. Especially when your bad decision making leads to affecting the general public. If you're scared when you have all the resources available to someone, maybe you should go work in an office somewhere. Tyreek was never a threat, they knew who he was when they pulled him over, so this was a clear overreaction by at least the one overamped cop.
I have seen Miami police treat anyone in a supercar really poorly unless they kiss their ass. I cannot afford those cars either, get over your career choice and the pay that comes with it. That being said, treat people how you want to be treated Tyreek. Anyone who wants to get arrested and then say its because "insert social justice reason here" this is a great playbook to follow.
Why don't you guys talk about how everyone is saying you don't have to roll your windows down for a police? Apparently that's the law in most states. Their defense for Tyreek is he gave them the license and didn't have to answer any questions after that w/ it being perfectly legal for him to keep his window up. I'm on the police side since I think that it's ridiculous to expect police to do their job if they can't ask questions, much less their safety being at risk if they cant see inside of the vehicle when it's tinted. So how do you guys approach situations like this if it were a random person and possibly a criminal who behaves the same way with tinted windows having given you their ID but won't speak to you with rolled up tinted windows?
This modern police officer concern toooo much about their safety regarless you are 5 yrs old or 100 yrs old.he gave his paper work and then put the window up.wtf.
Basically if the black guy didn't get the angry white guy (who suppose to be trained to deal with the public) with the gun, then none of this would have happened? In other words, Tyreek should have just said "yes sir boss, Iza gonna do what you say".
And it wasn't 103 miles an hour You see how they lie He's lying and haven't even seen any proof of what he saying. But it taught to protect our own and we have a platform where assholes listening to us and take our advice as if it's factual.
Y'all STOP you don't have to let your windows down for a traffic stop but half way just write the Fing ticket like I say it doesn't matter if you got money or no still DRIVING WHILE BLACK what about that no one is saying that I pray him and his lawyer get there Azz'ez
And just like police officers this guy in the gray hat in the middle with the black shirt already setting a case for the police officers. You see how he laid out what tyreke wasn't even though tyreke told you who he was. Yes he is an average person You may consider him to be a celebrity or a superstar he consider himself to be average as everybody else. Which mean he expect to be treated the same at a traffic stop what she has indeed been treated the same at a traffic stop giving his color. Let's not take that away now these officers work this detail all the time. Since you like to speculate I'm going to speculate as well let's watch the video from the beginning people. These offices are sitting waiting for him to come obviously he come through there a little faster than what everybody else do everyday. Cuz they're sitting there waiting they're getting ready to pull out in traffic before he even makes it there which mean they have a lookout. Somewhere up letting them know he's on his way now that's what I got from the video. You didn't see that neither or am I making that up I would love to know that Three asshole pigs.
And answer this guy with the fear port red shirt on rolling down your window or rolling up your window at a traffic stop. Do you have to roll down your window is that a law is it a law if you rolled up your window what was he and violation of when he rolled his window back up That's the question I want to ask you
Lol so we're going to listen to three police officers and think you're going to get the truth please spare me. At the end of the day being verbally disrespectful to a police officer is not a crime. The last time I checked it's protected under the Constitution that you three and them three took an oath to. Let's not to mention why you don't have your seat belt on well from the other angle you can clearly see him trying to take his arm out of the seatbelt. Before the cop snatched him out of the car. And another thing is why is it always when the cameras wasn't rolling okay well when the cameras wasn't rolling I seen two police officers. On the side of the road on motorcycles getting ready for his car to pass obviously they were waiting. Which would make this a profiling case never listen to a police officers defend other police officers cuz they'll never tell the truth. Remember it's the blue against us and that's how we should always see it I see it that way even with my law enforcement family members. I don't attend any functions or anything if they are around because it's the blue before you. At the end of the day at a traffic stop once you hand over driver's license and registrations you do not have to speak to the police officer. They tell you to exit the vehicle then you must give him the the time to exit the vehicle. And under no circumstances does the law allow a police officer to open up someone's vehicle and snatch them out. Now you'll see the outcome of what happens when you have money fighting the system versus when you don't There was no charges number one and the state will get sued because they definitely violated his constitutional rights. As citizens and as a country like the US we have constitutional law shit you officers must follow. You only know one thing you are in control at a traffic stop correction you are not in control at a traffic stop conduct your job and don't go above your job. We also see the antagonizing other police officer who just wants to be a badass It seems a little racist to me but it is what it is You guys are full of shit and this is why police officers all over the country cannot be trusted and to tell you the truth I don't care if it was a white person or black person when you pulled over by the police officers and automatically. Treated as if you are a criminal that's a problem without prior investigation it's a traffic stop remember that take the driver's license registrations go back to your vehicle and write the ticket and let the person go.
And you miss the guy in the gray hat how was he disrespectful That's his property All right We talking about a 700 and something $1,000 car Don't come knocking on my shit. That's number one number two we don't have to be respectful to police officers and when I say we. I'm meaning a citizens y'all need to know y'all please as offices and learn to de-escalate not escalate That's one. Number two once he hand his driver's license over he don't need to speak to the officer anymore and then the same question is for you that I had for your friend in a red shirt. What law is it that I must roll down my window while conducting the traffic stop what law is it that I can't roll up my window during a traffic stop. Now what law protects him from your officer while fellow officer of yours in a different department in a different state There is that protect us drivers and citizens from police officers just opening our car doors. How about this I'll give you one short-term Fourth amendment violation. Yeah y'all don't understand that do you no you don't You all are taught just to escalate the situation let them figure it out in court. And this is the reason why policing goes on today because if anybody sitting here listening to these assholes telling what it is that they're telling they have no factual law to back it.
And for those of you who dont understand what these cops deal with, being able to see what the driver and occupants are doing is a potential matter of life and death. Not everyone follows football and would know who the guy is, ID or not. They get difficult people out of the car to avoid getting killed. When you give attitude, you GET attitude.
@@jamesgrandt8194 awwwwwwwww, poor little piggies. they have less dangerous jobs than electricians and farmers, but let's all cry over how hurt the cops feelings get. If they're scared, go find a safer job. Don't complain when your job comes with inherent risks.
FAILING TO COMPLY? Did I imagine him handing over his ID and insurance? What more is there to talk about? Go run the ticket. Non-compliance would be refusing to ID, not pulling over, not signing the ticket, etc. etc. You DO NOT have to "comply" with every whim of the officer, you have to follow LAWFUL orders. He pulled over. He rolled down the window and handed him his paperwork. Those are the only two opportunities he had to comply with lawful orders and he did so. Perhaps you mean OBEY not comply. Too bad though, he's not legally obligated to obey his every request. It took 4 seconds then 7 seconds to go from "keep the window where it is" to "actually, get out of the car" to putting hands on him... Over alleged speeding. Also, "keep the window down" was an unclear order to begin with. It was cracked. Keep it cracked, or roll it down all the way? Not that he had the time to comply anyway, but what exactly would that look like? "Keep the window down" and the window was down about 3 inches... Seems he was complying. Was he nice? No. Did he fail to comply? We'll never know because you can't bark an unclear order and use that as an excuse then immediately change your mind and get physical, all in less than 15 seconds... Over a civil infraction. He MIGHT have been doing 15 over, but reckless driving is a stretch. The man was late and in a hurry. He was maintaining his lane, going a constant speed, and not excessively or abruptly changing lanes. Im not sure what Florida's laws on reckless driving says, but in my state of TN and most other states, speeding alone cannot be reckless, it requires multiple factors, ie hard acceleration, excessive lane changes, unsafe cornering speeds, etc. Even if its EXCESSIVE speeding, there's an EXCESSIVE SPEEDING statute... The Cop was objectively more reckless if you want to argue that it was reckless, he blasted through traffic to catch up. While necessary to get to him and pull him over, he could have been riding a bit more carefully and simply caught up a bit later. Looked to me like Tyreek was already waiting for him in fact. I hope this department gets their clock cleaned in court. These guys aren't fit to bag groceries, much less serve the public. They're egotistical, hot headed thugs leaching off of the Miami tax payers.
So many people bitching about him “not having to keep his window down,” but they’re ignoring the fact that the car has illegal tint which is limiting visibility into the car
ok, I'll bitch about something else - cops have the same tint on their private vehicles (well documented among dozens of departments around the country) as well as license plate covers that thwart plate reading cameras. The cop saw into the car just fine when he got the guy's license; we has walking AWAY when the window was getting rolled back up. He wasn't worried about his safety - he was being driven by his ego.
@@marsstubblefield the window was rolled down to give the license. When it was rolled up, the view was obstructed. If you couldn’t tell, there was more than one officer. Only one was leaving. The order was a lawful one to which Hill refused to comply. Your other comment is irrelevant. We are discussing this event, not some unproven hypothetical
@@JStryker7 You need to watch the video again son - the other officers were at the back of the car and wouldn’t be able to see into the window even if it was down and the window was rolled down about 3 inches - the officer said keep your window down he didn’t say how far; after that, Tyreek did not roll the window up, and immediately the officer pulled him out of the car. And I guarantee you that these officers knew who he was so there was no fear for their safety; they are just manufacturing BS plausible deniability by saying that’s the case. It’s 100% ego, driven contempt of cop, overreaction retaliation.
@@marsstubblefield you realize there is body camera footage from all of the officers right? I’m guessing you’ve only bothered to watch 1-2min of edited footage
Was not tyreeks fault he doesnt need to be professional durning the stop Not one person mentioned the cop needs to learn to due his job professional regardless what tyreek did
He complied from the start and I still hate these pigs. Cops think people owe it to be polite to them, we don't. We need to obey the law which is more than cops think they must do. That these cops talk so much about Tyrek being "disrespectful" as if it should matter is appauling and shows the mindset of cops that they think they're above the law.
What part of rolling down your window and handing over your license without having to be asked for it non compliant? What law says you have to keep your window down while the cop is off writing your ticket/s? Which penal code states you can only speak in the most polite tone when dealing with police or anybody else? I didn’t know being kinda rude and not stepping out or sitting down within milliseconds of being barked at was grounds to be brutalized.
Exactly, cops don't know or care about the law. The argument "had he been compliant..". We shoudn't have to comply with cops orders, only the law. Any cop who thinks otherwise is unfit. There is no legal obligation to be nice to cops and whether they feel disrespected or not should not dictate whether you get wrestled to the ground or not. Has it ever occured to any cop that if you act nicely to those you stop maybe they'll be nicer to you?! These cops came out extremely unprofessional and disrespectful and just wanted to show force. I hope they get sacked, sued and denied their p**sy a*s qualified immunity. Even toddlers get held accountable to a further extent than cops. Cops are the only sovereign citizens in society, and the most violent and cowardly on top of that.
he wasn't done talking to him. He also didn't have his seatbelt on. How was the officer supposed to talk through a window?
@@bobjohnson270 Why would he have to have his seatbelt on? The car was standing still. People like you who don't know your rights and who think obeying is the best way to live life are the reason tyranny can exist.
it's just common sense. you treat a fast food worker like he did and you get your food spit on. obviously anyone is going to be an ahole to you back if you're an ahole to them. that's life.
@@doc-vg9lq It's not that simple. Not everyone just have the right to act like an asshole because someone disrespects them. There's such a think called "proffesionalism" and that is something that we can demand of those who get paid by tax money. They are trained in using violence and they are armed to the teeth, the least we can expect is that they show restraint and respect. Those cops did not, they have most definitely violated many people's rights and it'a about time they get held accountable.
work at Starbucks, 75% of your customers have attitudes and are rude all day while taking their orders because social media says you can. See how your attitude is halfway through the shift, that is what cops receive daily with every stop! Ask a waitress if she thinks the customer is always right!
Nice analogy but you, miss a glaring difference - if you piss off a barista, he might spit in your latte - you piss off a cop he might kill you
If you don’t like a job where you interface with the public that has the potential of being rude then get a job where you don’t have to do that - like maybe you could be a landscaper and go walk around, pushing a lawnmower with noise cancellation headphones on.
Bottom line is, if you can’t deal with the requirements of the job, don’t take it - you don’t become a cook if you’re hyper averse to getting burned…
Tyreek acting immature 100 percent......it takes a bigger man to ( cop) de-escalate ,ignore and not act even more immature than civilian
"If he just complied, it would all be just fine" is the worst excuse to ever give. And being disrespectful is not illegal. Stop getting so butt-hurt over not getting your way on something that they are not required to do.
search on youtube how many cops get shot during these stops. You walk up on someone being aggressive. Has tinted windows and the officers could not clearly see what Hill was doing. The officers have a right to safety as well.
@@bobjohnson270 Sure he has a RIGHT to stay safe, but he DOESN'T have a RIGHT to demand something he's not legally allowed to REQUIRE. and why don't you do the research and tell me how many cops get shot from behind tinted windows and see if is comes close to the number of people shot by cops behind tinted windows. I cited FBI statistics for shot and killed cops and killed civilians, now you put in the work and back up your argument with statistics as well. I realize my statistics were in a separate comment, I'll copy and paste that comment here: ""officer safety" is so overplayed it's ridiculous. how many times are cops getting shot at through tinted windows? Police were shot 378 times in 2023, 60 killed. Contrast that to 1,329 people killed by police in 2023, I couldn't find how many were actually shot. That's 24 times as many killed by cops than cops getting killed. No one from the outside looking in would suggest the cop should have more fear for their life than the object of their attention. The cops are 100% statistically more safe than their victims, i mean detainees."
@@ClintonHagueHagueTech being disrespectful isn’t illegal, but that doesn’t mean you can just refuse lawful orders
I honestly hate this Cop mentality of "we dont know these cops, but because they are cops, we have to stand by the badge and stand together". Cops are literally trained in diffusing/de-escalating situations. Where was Cops gentleman attitude? Let alone professionalism to let Mr Hill know why they wanted the window down? none of them had it, none of them communicated properly and in literally less than a minute it went from handing over an ID to being face down on the ground. These cops are garbage, dont have the proper training and anyone that stands by this type of policing are also garbage. Just like this podcast. So you three know, It is okay for cops to call out other cops. Thats how you police your own. That is how Iron sharpens Iron. Dont blindly stand by eachother (the badge) and justify it by stating things like "Mr Hill lit the fuse", or "we hate tinted windows". They should have diffused the lit fuse, and communicated why they want the window down. That would have gone longer and with better results than expecting the civilian to adhere to cops prenotioned imaginary standards of expected safety.
Initial stop was for speeding (a moving violation), keep that in mind. He rolled up the window and the officer said I can pull you out. Then it went from I can pull you out to I will pull you out, to being slammed on the ground in less than 1 minute. Mr Hill stated that he would comply and they didn't give him even 60 seconds to. The officers were out of line 100% and very dangerous to escalate a traffic violation that fast. He even told them he had a injury and they didn't care. They are a liability to the tax payers in the community and should be off the street.
He did not fly by them at 100 mph. He did roll the window down and he did hand him his info. after he was stopped Hill did not break any law. He was disrespectful but that is not a crime. Once the cop got the info he should have walked away and wrote the ticket but he got made when Hill rolled the window back up which is not against the law. Only 7 seconds elapse from the time the cop banged on Hill's window the second time to the time he was pulled out of the vehicle by an out of control tyrant. Disrespect is not a crime, a cop losing his temper and ripping someone out of their car only 7 seconds after telling them to do something is ridiculous. Hill is an idiot but it's the cop who is the tyrant.
suspected WS and bad cop apologists don't care. Him being blk is enough crime
No control from the cop immediately, but let three white guys explain
how can you get control with someone that is confrontational, closing a window while the officer is trying to talk to him.
@@bobjohnson270 how can other non blk people show their lack of control over and over yet get treated with kid gloves? countless videos but I'm sure weasels are going to act like it doesn't happen.
@@caligreenclean lol what? if you watch police body cams and EVERY incident where something tragic happens to a black person by police it's always because they don't cooperate. Just like with Tyreek where it was just dumb the way he acted for no reason other than acting entitled. It's not hard to cooperate if you did nothing wrong. For some reason so many black people in particular just can't cooperate with authority figures. Stuff like this doesn't happen to white, azn, etc. people much because they cooperate. it's not hard.
Racist OP
“No control from the criminal immediately. But let 3 black guys explain”
@@caligreenclean this doesn’t happen to most others because they cooperate
Wtf? Rolling his window down isn't a law nor is officer safety. He said give me the ticket but the officer ego was hurt.
It is when there is illegal tint that doesn’t allow good visibility
@@JStryker7 it was below legal level
@@JStryker7 It's still not, there is no law requiring the window be all the way down. He didn't get pulled over for tinted windows nor did he get a ticket for it so not a problem. You have to learn that you only have to do what the law requires, license, proof of insurance, and registration if it's required. But nowhere does it state that you have to have your window down. You don't have to do anything a cop says, which is why it's called a lawful order, can only tell you to do something that's supported by law. Otherwise officer safety and anything else just supports their feelings, no one is obligated to follow their feelings.
@@chiefnoahexactly 💯
@@chiefnoah officer safety allows them to order you to roll your windows down if they can’t see in. It’s a legal fact
He handed his license out before they even asked. Did you guys even watch the video?
Their whole response leads me to believe that they didn't. But on the other hand, this was an informative video in how police investigate themselves and convince themselves that they're right and you were wrong. They conclude normally that the subject of the stop HAD to do something to start the escalation which leads to justification of the action cops end up taking. It happens ALL THE TIME with internal investigations. That's 100% what these three were doing here.
Officer safety is not more important than our rights
search youtube for how many cops have lost their lives during these stops. The officer was trying to talk to Tyreke and he just rolled up his window.
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Mr Hill did comply. He immediately pulled over rolled down his window and handed the cop his license. He is not required to keep his window down. If a man sitting in a car with the window up scares you maybe you should find a different job. It is not ok to violently attack someone just because you think he disrespects you. Police should be able to handle that.
He drove 60 mph. Get your facts right
It doesn't matter do you know if a officer can't articulate seeing a weapon in the vehicle or something that can harm him it's not the law that he has to get out of the vehicle. Articulable suspicion that his life may be in danger That's what gives you the right to remove them from the car. It's case law and if people read the case law and it's totality they would understand police just do shit just to do it.
And how he exit the car he lit the fuse well he was snatched out of the car so he didn't have time to exit so they lit the fuse it's called de-escalation not escalation.
@@davidsbgr and what is the speed limit?
SOOOOOO, you should always just comply when a COP tells you to do something? Ha, this isn't North Korea, we have rights to ask questions. Cops do not have special rights! We should not just HAVE to COMPLY!
In this day and age where everything is recorded, why not not? Comply, and if you don't like something that was done, sue them. You lose at first by biting your tongue and complying, but you win in the end with that paycheck 💪🏼
The other problem is when good cops don't correct the bad cops behavior over fear of reprocussions from their "brothers in blue"
I think it's bullshit.
@@LeGoatCR7overEveryone live to fight another day.
what questions did Tyreke ask... he acted like a jerk. Officers have to take their safety in account as well. Cops get shot and killed during these "routine" stops.
those cops were gunning for him.
how? Tyreke sped through a construction zone. He got pulled over and because of his ego he became confrontational right from the start. He didn't even have his seatbelt on. He even lied after the game on what happened. The officer who pulled him over didn't even know who he was. Officers get shot during these stops. They have to take their safety into account as well.
@@bobjohnson270 I completely agree. It was not until the cop approached that the other players ahead of Tyreek that the officer was advised who these guys are.
Cops shouldn't REACT to however the person being pulled over is reacting! Cops HAVE de-escalation training! They do not have the right to go hands on because someone is not rolling down their window!
3 clueless guys who haven’t the faintist idea why the public hates cops
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Why is there such a divide? No defense for these savage cops!
this is total crap. How he acted is why the cops acted as they did? Cops just want people to comply? They are professionals and need to do their jobs properly. The escalation is the result of the cops. You dont have to be nice to police, you don't have to keep your window down. The cop was on a ego trip and showed it. You guys suck.
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Lets get it clear , protect and serve, not dictate and demand
You've investigated yourselves and found no wrongdoing
13:40 spoken like a 13 yo kid.
the host is a clown
The constitution is the only thing that matters, not your poor feelings.
actually keeping innocent people safe is what matters most in a country with rampant crime due to lax laws. If you owned anything, didn't have a criminal record, and were at least a respectable person in society you'd probably care more about law enforcement too instead of seeing the police as the bad guys.
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Dumb Dumb & Dumb
Dumb Dumber Dumbest you mean
So the cops on the podcast agree with the cops at the scene? Shocker
It shouldn't matter who is in the vehicle? Should we be giving preferential treatment to some?
Are you guys serious... ? Did you even watch the video.. the Driver Gave the police his papers. he even cracked the window when he was asked to bring it down.. Unbelievable
Crack and roll down so the officer can see inside are different. Are you serious?
@@lisastupia2855 What Law states that you have to roll your Windows All the way down ? He just have to have it down enough to facilitate conversation and exchange of document, if any.
Dirty cops just look for an excuse and they got one
Amazing how sensitive cops are. Their egos are so fragile. Hill wasn't going 103 Red Fairport Guy. Looked like 60 to 70... which he shouldn't be doing. And he is a dumbass for not wearing his seatbelt in that machine. And why are the windows tinted? ... are you looking for trouble? But he is a member of the public and people make mistakes and it isn't the cops job to punish him at the stop. That's the job of the judiciary. They were thugs and assaulted him. Two wrongs don't make a right. There is obviously a problem with that department if they think that was appropriate and if they think they can get away with it. That cop needs to toughen up. Tyreek needs to get some class to go with that McClaren. Should be a law that you need to have class to drive a mcclaren.
Apparently, you didn’t watch the video. The first thing he did is have his window down with the license insurance in his hand. The officer walked up so if you want to put all this on him, that’s OK but actually they just freaking violated his fourth amendment right by dragging him out of the car him For a goddamn moving violation which is a civil fraction and like he said just go ahead write the ticket and I’ll take care of it but the cop didn’t wanna go that way he wanted to be a tough guy and show him that he’s more important in life, his victims rights in America
You wanna talk about triple-down mocking? I GUARANTEE you that Danny Torres was down at the local cop bar that night talkin' a MILE o' SH!T about how he went all LINEBACKER on Reek and took that mofo DOWN like a beyotch!!!
The mentality displayed on this breakdown is the core of police culture and the heart of the problem.
Speeding, not wearing a seatbelt, and complying was the root cause?
@@lisastupia2855 Not sure what your question is exactly. As far as I know Tyreek Hill did not challenge the speeding violation nor the seatbelt ticket. As far a complying goes, from what I see in the video, he is; clearly not as quickly as the officers would like, but he is not refusing to follow their lawful orders at any time.
They unnecessarily escalated the situation much too quickly to be justified by any claims, officer safety or otherwise. Danny Torres has been suspended SIX TIMES in his career (most, if not all, as a result of excessive force being used).
So people can have their varying opinions about whether or not Hill was complying with lawful orders but the excessive use of force is undeniable. The "Graham factors" are what is (and probably will be) used in determining this and they all favor Tyreek Hill . . .
Severity of the crime
Whether the suspect is actively resisting or attempting to flee
Whether the suspect poses an immediate danger to anyone
. . . officer Torres is 100% in the wrong, both in pulling him from the car and handcuffing him face down on the pavement, as well as forcing him to sit on the ground later on.
We're not hearing anything about any of this because Miami-Dade is hoping it all dies down and stops getting attention.
But I hope that doesn't happen. This officer was clearly out of line and has done it numerous times in the past - it's time he gets held accountable.
Just like good ol' boys to stand up for good ol' boys. No one said Tyreek was a model citizen here. And in my opinion he didn't really directly or intentionally disrespect the officers, he handed the license and said he was ready to pay so he could go (to his Job). He was in a hurry for a game and being short, not an excuse, he could have left earlier and drove safer. But that one cop that aggressively pulled him out of the car and was being a verbal bully and putting everyone in handcuffs needs at the very least a suspension to take some deescalation and anger management courses.
Comply. Comply. Comply. That's what people say. But aggression met with aggression they want to say that the police are just doing their jobs and you should comply. How about the officer not be a dick? Yes, Tyreek was being a dick but he was giving back the energy that was put out. SO ESH....
the cop wasn't being a dick. He walked up and tapped on the window as Tyreke was on the phone and not paying attention. Also without his seatbelt on. As soon as the officer was trying to talk to him he was confrontational.
The police are trained to handle these situations. Citizens are not trained to handle these situations.
Also, you need to get your page checked because you can’t hit the thumbs down it says error or is no one allowed to say anything against what you’re saying on your TH-cam channel or the fact that you’re wrong about this situation
1st amendment allows him to be as verbally disrespectful as he wants per SCOTUS. The "officer" was out of control to begin with. If you can't take the talk then find another line of work. If you are that scared of tinted windows, find another job. Nobody has forced any cop into the job and they knew the risk when they raised their right hand and swore to uphold citizens' rights and ALL of our constitutional rights, not just the ones they want to pick and choose. Get the facts on the speed before you make a "statement". What happens when you assume??? Know the facts first.
@@countryguyusa273 yes, but he refused their lawful commands of rolling down the window and getting out of the car
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How was he disrespectful again ?
He was speeding and disrespectful to the officers. His arrogant attitude was not right.
have you ever seen videos where non blk people are even more disrespectful yet get treated with kid gloves? Deceit incoming...
So officer safety is worth acting like a tyrant and a bully over because its some undefined standard thats different in every cops head? Got it
Go see how many cops get shot during these stops and maybe you will have a different view. These guys have families to go home to as well. Its an easy thing to keep a window down and not be confrontational. It was Tyrekes actions that lead to him being pulled over and his ego that escalated this.
@@bobjohnson270 being a cop comes with inherent risks. Electricians and farmers have deadlier jobs than law enforcement. If you're not okay with that when you take the job, then you shouldn't be paid to do that job. Especially when your bad decision making leads to affecting the general public. If you're scared when you have all the resources available to someone, maybe you should go work in an office somewhere. Tyreek was never a threat, they knew who he was when they pulled him over, so this was a clear overreaction by at least the one overamped cop.
I have seen Miami police treat anyone in a supercar really poorly unless they kiss their ass. I cannot afford those cars either, get over your career choice and the pay that comes with it. That being said, treat people how you want to be treated Tyreek. Anyone who wants to get arrested and then say its because "insert social justice reason here" this is a great playbook to follow.
These muppets must of watched a completely different video
Why don't you guys talk about how everyone is saying you don't have to roll your windows down for a police? Apparently that's the law in most states. Their defense for Tyreek is he gave them the license and didn't have to answer any questions after that w/ it being perfectly legal for him to keep his window up. I'm on the police side since I think that it's ridiculous to expect police to do their job if they can't ask questions, much less their safety being at risk if they cant see inside of the vehicle when it's tinted.
So how do you guys approach situations like this if it were a random person and possibly a criminal who behaves the same way with tinted windows having given you their ID but won't speak to you with rolled up tinted windows?
This modern police officer concern toooo much about their safety regarless you are 5 yrs old or 100 yrs old.he gave his paper work and then put the window up.wtf.
Basically if the black guy didn't get the angry white guy (who suppose to be trained to deal with the public) with the gun, then none of this would have happened? In other words, Tyreek should have just said "yes sir boss, Iza gonna do what you say".
The officer was not white.
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Failure to comply to unlawful orders?!? 😂
Bet
And it wasn't 103 miles an hour You see how they lie He's lying and haven't even seen any proof of what he saying. But it taught to protect our own and we have a platform where assholes listening to us and take our advice as if it's factual.
Y'all STOP you don't have to let your windows down for a traffic stop but half way just write the Fing ticket like I say it doesn't matter if you got money or no still DRIVING WHILE BLACK what about that no one is saying that I pray him and his lawyer get there Azz'ez
He did comply. Its not illegal to be disrespectful.
Be better, cant watch this crap
how did he comply? The officer was trying to talk to him and he rolled up the window. When he asked him to roll it down he wouldn't at first.
@@jeffanthony3178 he failed to comply multiple times before he was put in cuffs
The didnt get him radar even doing 60 so get your facts right
Everything Tyreke said didn't coincide with the video.
And just like police officers this guy in the gray hat in the middle with the black shirt already setting a case for the police officers. You see how he laid out what tyreke wasn't even though tyreke told you who he was. Yes he is an average person You may consider him to be a celebrity or a superstar he consider himself to be average as everybody else. Which mean he expect to be treated the same at a traffic stop what she has indeed been treated the same at a traffic stop giving his color. Let's not take that away now these officers work this detail all the time. Since you like to speculate I'm going to speculate as well let's watch the video from the beginning people. These offices are sitting waiting for him to come obviously he come through there a little faster than what everybody else do everyday. Cuz they're sitting there waiting they're getting ready to pull out in traffic before he even makes it there which mean they have a lookout. Somewhere up letting them know he's on his way now that's what I got from the video. You didn't see that neither or am I making that up I would love to know that Three asshole pigs.
And answer this guy with the fear port red shirt on rolling down your window or rolling up your window at a traffic stop. Do you have to roll down your window is that a law is it a law if you rolled up your window what was he and violation of when he rolled his window back up That's the question I want to ask you
Was it really 103 in a 30?
So you have a TH-cam channel giving out faults information that’s interesting
Lmao y’all some clowns 🤡
Lol so we're going to listen to three police officers and think you're going to get the truth please spare me. At the end of the day being verbally disrespectful to a police officer is not a crime. The last time I checked it's protected under the Constitution that you three and them three took an oath to. Let's not to mention why you don't have your seat belt on well from the other angle you can clearly see him trying to take his arm out of the seatbelt. Before the cop snatched him out of the car. And another thing is why is it always when the cameras wasn't rolling okay well when the cameras wasn't rolling I seen two police officers. On the side of the road on motorcycles getting ready for his car to pass obviously they were waiting. Which would make this a profiling case never listen to a police officers defend other police officers cuz they'll never tell the truth. Remember it's the blue against us and that's how we should always see it I see it that way even with my law enforcement family members. I don't attend any functions or anything if they are around because it's the blue before you. At the end of the day at a traffic stop once you hand over driver's license and registrations you do not have to speak to the police officer. They tell you to exit the vehicle then you must give him the the time to exit the vehicle. And under no circumstances does the law allow a police officer to open up someone's vehicle and snatch them out. Now you'll see the outcome of what happens when you have money fighting the system versus when you don't There was no charges number one and the state will get sued because they definitely violated his constitutional rights. As citizens and as a country like the US we have constitutional law shit you officers must follow. You only know one thing you are in control at a traffic stop correction you are not in control at a traffic stop conduct your job and don't go above your job. We also see the antagonizing other police officer who just wants to be a badass It seems a little racist to me but it is what it is You guys are full of shit and this is why police officers all over the country cannot be trusted and to tell you the truth I don't care if it was a white person or black person when you pulled over by the police officers and automatically. Treated as if you are a criminal that's a problem without prior investigation it's a traffic stop remember that take the driver's license registrations go back to your vehicle and write the ticket and let the person go.
He did comply. Its not illegal to be disrespectful.
Be better on this podcast, cant watch this biased crap
And you miss the guy in the gray hat how was he disrespectful That's his property All right We talking about a 700 and something $1,000 car Don't come knocking on my shit. That's number one number two we don't have to be respectful to police officers and when I say we. I'm meaning a citizens y'all need to know y'all please as offices and learn to de-escalate not escalate That's one. Number two once he hand his driver's license over he don't need to speak to the officer anymore and then the same question is for you that I had for your friend in a red shirt. What law is it that I must roll down my window while conducting the traffic stop what law is it that I can't roll up my window during a traffic stop. Now what law protects him from your officer while fellow officer of yours in a different department in a different state There is that protect us drivers and citizens from police officers just opening our car doors. How about this I'll give you one short-term Fourth amendment violation. Yeah y'all don't understand that do you no you don't You all are taught just to escalate the situation let them figure it out in court. And this is the reason why policing goes on today because if anybody sitting here listening to these assholes telling what it is that they're telling they have no factual law to back it.
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Who is "twin" bruh?
Cops do not automatically deserve respect. Officer safety is their excuse for cowardice
😅 National Felons League. You can take the thug from the hood, but you cant take the hood out of the thug. Pay him millions and you have a rich thug.😅
And for those of you who dont understand what these cops deal with, being able to see what the driver and occupants are doing is a potential matter of life and death. Not everyone follows football and would know who the guy is, ID or not. They get difficult people out of the car to avoid getting killed. When you give attitude, you GET attitude.
@@jamesgrandt8194 awwwwwwwww, poor little piggies. they have less dangerous jobs than electricians and farmers, but let's all cry over how hurt the cops feelings get. If they're scared, go find a safer job. Don't complain when your job comes with inherent risks.
Bunch a sheep trying to give advice to been a sheep
He gave them his license and registration told him go write the ticket and rolled up his window. Go write the ticket and shut up
FAILING TO COMPLY?
Did I imagine him handing over his ID and insurance? What more is there to talk about? Go run the ticket. Non-compliance would be refusing to ID, not pulling over, not signing the ticket, etc. etc. You DO NOT have to "comply" with every whim of the officer, you have to follow LAWFUL orders. He pulled over. He rolled down the window and handed him his paperwork. Those are the only two opportunities he had to comply with lawful orders and he did so. Perhaps you mean OBEY not comply. Too bad though, he's not legally obligated to obey his every request.
It took 4 seconds then 7 seconds to go from "keep the window where it is" to "actually, get out of the car" to putting hands on him... Over alleged speeding.
Also, "keep the window down" was an unclear order to begin with. It was cracked. Keep it cracked, or roll it down all the way? Not that he had the time to comply anyway, but what exactly would that look like? "Keep the window down" and the window was down about 3 inches... Seems he was complying.
Was he nice? No. Did he fail to comply? We'll never know because you can't bark an unclear order and use that as an excuse then immediately change your mind and get physical, all in less than 15 seconds... Over a civil infraction.
He MIGHT have been doing 15 over, but reckless driving is a stretch. The man was late and in a hurry. He was maintaining his lane, going a constant speed, and not excessively or abruptly changing lanes. Im not sure what Florida's laws on reckless driving says, but in my state of TN and most other states, speeding alone cannot be reckless, it requires multiple factors, ie hard acceleration, excessive lane changes, unsafe cornering speeds, etc. Even if its EXCESSIVE speeding, there's an EXCESSIVE SPEEDING statute... The Cop was objectively more reckless if you want to argue that it was reckless, he blasted through traffic to catch up. While necessary to get to him and pull him over, he could have been riding a bit more carefully and simply caught up a bit later. Looked to me like Tyreek was already waiting for him in fact.
I hope this department gets their clock cleaned in court. These guys aren't fit to bag groceries, much less serve the public. They're egotistical, hot headed thugs leaching off of the Miami tax payers.
So many people bitching about him “not having to keep his window down,” but they’re ignoring the fact that the car has illegal tint which is limiting visibility into the car
ok, I'll bitch about something else - cops have the same tint on their private vehicles (well documented among dozens of departments around the country) as well as license plate covers that thwart plate reading cameras.
The cop saw into the car just fine when he got the guy's license; we has walking AWAY when the window was getting rolled back up. He wasn't worried about his safety - he was being driven by his ego.
@@marsstubblefield the window was rolled down to give the license. When it was rolled up, the view was obstructed. If you couldn’t tell, there was more than one officer. Only one was leaving. The order was a lawful one to which Hill refused to comply. Your other comment is irrelevant. We are discussing this event, not some unproven hypothetical
@@JStryker7 You need to watch the video again son - the other officers were at the back of the car and wouldn’t be able to see into the window even if it was down and the window was rolled down about 3 inches - the officer said keep your window down he didn’t say how far; after that, Tyreek did not roll the window up, and immediately the officer pulled him out of the car.
And I guarantee you that these officers knew who he was so there was no fear for their safety; they are just manufacturing BS plausible deniability by saying that’s the case.
It’s 100% ego, driven contempt of cop, overreaction retaliation.
@@marsstubblefield you realize there is body camera footage from all of the officers right? I’m guessing you’ve only bothered to watch 1-2min of edited footage
@@JStryker7 yeah I watched it - over 20 minutes; so your guess is wrong - the window was still down 3 inches when they opened his door
Was not tyreeks fault he doesnt need to be professional durning the stop Not one person mentioned the cop needs to learn to due his job professional regardless what tyreek did
Tyreek Hill should have complied from the start but I still hate these pigs🙂
stop, this is America, these cops are out-of-control power trippers and they work for us.
He complied from the start and I still hate these pigs. Cops think people owe it to be polite to them, we don't. We need to obey the law which is more than cops think they must do. That these cops talk so much about Tyrek being "disrespectful" as if it should matter is appauling and shows the mindset of cops that they think they're above the law.