I gotta give u props man ur the only person to make a video about dps and actually use mainly them,not 10 other sources that deal half the damage good shii
@@alyJ_impactif Cyno is C6, Yelan 100% doesn't need Fav OR 200% er. her cost is not basically 55 energy. you can chill at as low as 160%~ depending on extra particles, and Cyno is killing loads+it's a 2E yelan do it's fine
@@amielies81 thats inacurrate, here's how his passive count : normal atk dmg increase by 150% of total elemental mastery, if cyno has *300 em* his normal atk dmg will increase by *450 as flat damage* dustalker bolt damage increase by 250% of his em, if cyno has *300 em* his dustalker bolt damage increase by *750 as flat damage* (dustalker bolt is 3 wave attack from elemental skill when eye mark is appear in your screen) that damage bonus count is same as shenhe, yunjin, aggravate, spread, etc. aggravate itself already give flat damage bonus so his passive that give flat damage is kinda bad, look at yae miko, tighnari, and alhaitham they have damage percentage bonus is their passive instead of flat damage and this also the reason why they're better than cyno in quicken team
C2 is dmg%. Flat dmg works in his favour anyway. It's why he's the best in QuickBloom, paired with other kit niches, cuz the buff doesn't make his electro dmg go sky high yet at the same time it's not shit low. Cons make electro dmg main focus yet the passive means QuickBloom is still miles better than aggrevate at C6
Its not like Dehya is completely useless.. i use her for Burgeon team with Kazuha, Nahida and Kokomi. I use her in exploration too with Yelan and Wanderer(for Interuption resistance)
@@tsuki1606 Yes, and who cares, the only thing that counts is that you have fun with the characters. But if you only enjoy chars when you see extremely high numbers, then I feel sorry for these people. I only have Dehya C0 & I still enjoy playing with her & her damage is more than enough for me personally.🤷🏻♂️
@@briankele9985 Nah, it's better. I'll math it out: Assume that Cyno is double crowned (E and Q). A1 passive is ignored. Here's an optimal combo for non-TF set: N3 > E > N5 > E > N5 > N2 > E > N5 > N2 > E and here's an optimal combo for TF set: N2 > E > N4 > E > N4 > E > N5 > E > N4 > E > N4 > E > N5 > E As you can see, non-TF combo used 4 E's, and TF combo used 7 E's. If we sum up their MVs, you'll get: GD/non-TF set: 5251.2% TF set: 7183.7% That's a 1932.5% difference.
for people that don’t understand: dehya is on standard banner so you can get her cons easier lol also shes not the best dps but is a good tank support for those that don’t have zhongli or don’t like geo because of no reaction +she applicates pyro and has a beautiful appearance so for me, its enough i love playing her in my team with Hu Tao, Xingqiu and Mona, because she allows pyro resonance and contrary to Benny, she doesnt heal and shields… and when Xingqiu’s burst not ready, you can also throw Dehya’s burst to do some more dmg stop uselessly hating on her only cause yall don’t understand her value, shes better as a support BUT YALL WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE A HYPERCARRY (im AR56 and i know what i’m talking about, just play characters for fun and don’t expect even the supp units to do big pp dmg) cause i’m sure nobody expects a Zhongli to do over 100k with his burst so i don’t understand why pretending on a fucking standard character who has just been added to the game and can be very useful if used in the right place. delete game if you don’t like the characters then
Yeah all your arguments are…. wrong. Dehya’s uptime and pyro application is incredibly lackluster. It’s not even enough for GANYU. Her damage mitigation is also not even fully available during her skill’s duration. Plus, if she was purely designed as a support, why is her signature weapon one of the best dps claymores? Nobody expects zhongli to do 100k but he provides resistance shred and the best shield in the game. He literally **changes** the way you play the game with how good he is. People literally forget how to dodge without him. Meanwhile, dehya’s skill doesn’t do good damage and sometimes steals reactions, and it once again the important damage mitigation stat isn’t active for long enough.Don’t play the “I’m ar56 and know what I’m talking about”, adventure ranks mean nothing because I know ar58s running def artifacts on venti…..
@@milkyy4168 we all know Zhongli is a game changer and i fully agree with that, but what i hate about this toxic community is all the people not appreciating characters just for not being meta. She has bad dmg? yes. Is she a lackluster support? yes, maybe. Is she restricted? yeah a bit. But guess what, i still like her despite all the problems. And i think that with the right build every character can become at least usable or decent. But addressing her as a shit character, not usable and the ruin of genshin is quite annoying. I’m sorry if you thought my ar56 statement was to boost myself or too make my argument better(?) but what i wanted to say is that i have experienced a lot, and i mean A LOT of times the hate of people over characters. I have koko since her release, and she got hated until she reached the S rank for support. And when she was ranked lower? Only hate. The same happened to characters with some lacks in the kit and the same will still happen because people can’t appreciate a character if it isn’t cracked. For now, she’s luckluster, and i know. But she’s definitely not a shit :/ +she will be buffed with Fontaine, and i hope she will get some more love cause the design and the personality of the pg are both really interesting. hope you understand what i’m saying
@@andresmunoz6356 unfortunately it is almost true, but she’s better as a support than as a dps. If she’s with some good characters she can have a decent tanking role. Hope she will improve with Fontaine
@@zuz6942 The problem is you were overselling her massively. She isn’t a good tank support because her damage mitigation has bad uptime and she can’t battery her team. She’s usable at best, and gets basically outperformed by proper shielders. It’s fine if you like her, but don’t defend obviously terrible decisions made by hoyo. She was intentionally nerfed to all hell, and this is unacceptable.
yep, except the part where you can swap ayaka to maintain 4 vv buff + freeze to lockdown enemies instead of pushing them away and chasing them and lost aoe dps. if this was a c6 ayaka the clear time would have been insanely shorter. they did dehya so dirty that even her artifacts in beta 3.6 got nerfed. i just hope the future fontain character WILL work well on her.
you're aware that kazuha constellations don't do anything to non-reaction teams like dehya's one, right...? and that his c6 only enables him to be an on-field dps, right?
Oh my god, please don't do this to cyno, play him on aggravate if you have c6, he is the best aggravate carry in the entire game if c6, please play him right, any cyno with SOSS and c2 or higher is built for aggravate. Playing him in hyperbloom is a waste of his kit
I refuse to play pure Aggravate with the current team choice we have right now. I'm waiting for Baizhu because the team drafting is much more flexible imo.
@@alyJ_impact I see where you are coming from, judging that you will get baizhu, I belive you will run him in aggravate? He is the strongest aggravate carry in the entire game mate at c6, I hope you will use him in aggravate, Goodluck on your baizhu summons
I use him in aggravate at C0 too (Nahida, Kazuha, Kuki with key) aggravate is the most fun with him imo, hyperbloom has very messy rotations and I like seeing bigger numbers on him lol
sadly he was doing hyperbloom which pretty much means he's doing electro charged/hyperbloom and no aggravate. c1, c2, c3 and c6 greatly boost his aggr damage but they all went to waste with that team.
@@BAKAJDSJS he does *some* aggr damage but it's far from full time. the hyperbloom you're talking about is good when he's c0 but starting from c2? it's dumb. they lost multiple skills alone with 0 icd doing electro charged. his c1 boosts his NA speed by 20% giving him more NAs to aggravate, c2 giving him 50% dmg bonus (similar to raiden's c2/yae's c6) which boosts his aggr damage while doing nothing for hyperbloom, c6 releasing bolt which is considered skill dmg that has no icd meaning every single one can aggr as long as it doesn't contact hydro. pretty much the same case with haitham and miko. both are good with hyperbloom at c0 but their cons push them to be full time quicken dps with significant gap otherwise you're just wasting them.
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I gotta give u props man ur the only person to make a video about dps and actually use mainly them,not 10 other sources that deal half the damage good shii
Brooooo, i loved this cyno! He is my favorite character!
Bro has C6 Yelan with 200%+ ER and still using Fav Bow for her
Emblem Yelan, probably
I usually have her with fav if I just intended to use her as sub dps, and also provide the energy to the team.
man got all these c6 yet no elegy 😂
@@alyJ_impactif Cyno is C6, Yelan 100% doesn't need Fav OR 200% er. her cost is not basically 55 energy. you can chill at as low as 160%~ depending on extra particles, and Cyno is killing loads+it's a 2E yelan do it's fine
Cyno C6 He looks crazy because he has a lot of attack speed. If you use Sky Spear 5 and use Ayato and Yoonjin, I think he'll be crazy than ever Cyno.
Dehya looks very satysfying to use. Could probably be around the level of my Klee too
High copium
Nope Klee si better
@@aryaa.h.9665 Yeah, her kit looks weird but she does look satisfying to play and you can't tell me otherwise.
@@Felix048 such a cool character design only to be wasted
@@aryaa.h.9665 do you not understand the joke? Their klee is around level 40
You obliterated that cryo shield.
How does it feel to have 5 star cons? The only one I have is my accidental C1 Kazuha.
Dehya looks fun to play
Ur build kinda unique but looks like it works so all gud
imagine cyno has damage% passive instead of flat damage
He does have talent buff his atk 100% NA and 150% element skill and 3 slash from wall eye depend 100% on his atk
@@amielies81 thats inacurrate, here's how his passive count :
normal atk dmg increase by 150% of total elemental mastery, if cyno has *300 em* his normal atk dmg will increase by *450 as flat damage*
dustalker bolt damage increase by 250% of his em, if cyno has *300 em* his dustalker bolt damage increase by *750 as flat damage*
(dustalker bolt is 3 wave attack from elemental skill when eye mark is appear in your screen)
that damage bonus count is same as shenhe, yunjin, aggravate, spread, etc. aggravate itself already give flat damage bonus so his passive that give flat damage is kinda bad, look at yae miko, tighnari, and alhaitham they have damage percentage bonus is their passive instead of flat damage and this also the reason why they're better than cyno in quicken team
C2 is dmg%.
Flat dmg works in his favour anyway. It's why he's the best in QuickBloom, paired with other kit niches, cuz the buff doesn't make his electro dmg go sky high yet at the same time it's not shit low. Cons make electro dmg main focus yet the passive means QuickBloom is still miles better than aggrevate at C6
I currently completed Spiral abyss using Xiao C0 and Cyno C0
I managed to get 6/9 stars
Btw No signature weapon for both
You look at this and think "Damn Dehya doesn't look as bad as people said she was". Then you look at the title and realize those were c6 numbers.
C6 Dehya and C6 Cyno. . or full C6 ?
Full C6
Change jean for ayaka and the team is perfect
Honestly Dehya isnt that bad to play, its a shame i dont have her tho
It takes her to be C6 to be serviceable as damage dealer tho, so you'd have to have her 7 times (unless you just wanted her for her niche skill)
How that looks fun😂
Yeah, that's kind of too much. C3 would be more than enough for both of these characters.
wow that dehya looks usable
yeah,c6 r5
Its not like Dehya is completely useless.. i use her for Burgeon team with Kazuha, Nahida and Kokomi. I use her in exploration too with Yelan and Wanderer(for Interuption resistance)
c6 dehya is actually worth it
C6 deyha gets completely outclassed by my c1 hutao lmao
@@pops1cle187 Wow rejoice & now buy yourself an ice cream and go to your toxic corner and keep hating there.
Imagine needing c6 to reach the damage a c0/c1 dps can deal
@@tsuki1606 Yes, and who cares, the only thing that counts is that you have fun with the characters. But if you only enjoy chars when you see extremely high numbers, then I feel sorry for these people. I only have Dehya C0 & I still enjoy playing with her & her damage is more than enough for me personally.🤷🏻♂️
@@Chillszy copium, lol. Let's just pretend that her dmg is good instead of forcing Hoyoverse to buff her
my c3 Cyno can get 40-60k damage consistanly, you should try use gilded on him, Nahida deepwood & kuki tenacity.
4 pc TF is his BiS because he can use more E's outside of Endseer and reduce his ER requirements.
@@lewsee5562 You ruin your NA combo with these E. This is worse then you thouth.
@@briankele9985 Nah, it's better. I'll math it out:
Assume that Cyno is double crowned (E and Q). A1 passive is ignored.
Here's an optimal combo for non-TF set:
N3 > E > N5 > E > N5 > N2 > E > N5 > N2 > E
and here's an optimal combo for TF set:
N2 > E > N4 > E > N4 > E > N5 > E > N4 > E > N4 > E > N5 > E
As you can see, non-TF combo used 4 E's, and TF combo used 7 E's.
If we sum up their MVs, you'll get:
GD/non-TF set: 5251.2%
TF set: 7183.7%
That's a 1932.5% difference.
@@briankele9985 🤡
@@briankele9985 that’s a skill issue
i dont see any 30k dmg from ur cyno, and my cyno is only c1 but crit dmg is higher. cr 68% and cd 230 something.
Woah! At c6 dehya actually competes with c0 hu tao! What an amazing unit 😄
And without having to be half dead too! Truly the pyro character of all time.
The reason they don't rework or buff characters is maybe cus it's mostly a single player game and people build for tzese characters will be useless
for people that don’t understand: dehya is on standard banner so you can get her cons easier lol
also shes not the best dps but is a good tank support for those that don’t have zhongli or don’t like geo because of no reaction +she applicates pyro and has a beautiful appearance so for me, its enough
i love playing her in my team with Hu Tao, Xingqiu and Mona, because she allows pyro resonance and contrary to Benny, she doesnt heal and shields… and when Xingqiu’s burst not ready, you can also throw Dehya’s burst to do some more dmg
stop uselessly hating on her only cause yall don’t understand her value, shes better as a support BUT YALL WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE A HYPERCARRY (im AR56 and i know what i’m talking about, just play characters for fun and don’t expect even the supp units to do big pp dmg)
cause i’m sure nobody expects a Zhongli to do over 100k with his burst so i don’t understand why pretending on a fucking standard character who has just been added to the game and can be very useful if used in the right place.
delete game if you don’t like the characters then
Yeah all your arguments are…. wrong. Dehya’s uptime and pyro application is incredibly lackluster. It’s not even enough for GANYU. Her damage mitigation is also not even fully available during her skill’s duration. Plus, if she was purely designed as a support, why is her signature weapon one of the best dps claymores? Nobody expects zhongli to do 100k but he provides resistance shred and the best shield in the game. He literally **changes** the way you play the game with how good he is. People literally forget how to dodge without him. Meanwhile, dehya’s skill doesn’t do good damage and sometimes steals reactions, and it once again the important damage mitigation stat isn’t active for long enough.Don’t play the “I’m ar56 and know what I’m talking about”, adventure ranks mean nothing because I know ar58s running def artifacts on venti…..
Better as a support yet gets outclassed by every other support
@@milkyy4168 we all know Zhongli is a game changer and i fully agree with that, but what i hate about this toxic community is all the people not appreciating characters just for not being meta. She has bad dmg? yes. Is she a lackluster support? yes, maybe. Is she restricted? yeah a bit. But guess what, i still like her despite all the problems. And i think that with the right build every character can become at least usable or decent. But addressing her as a shit character, not usable and the ruin of genshin is quite annoying.
I’m sorry if you thought my ar56 statement was to boost myself or too make my argument better(?) but what i wanted to say is that i have experienced a lot, and i mean A LOT of times the hate of people over characters. I have koko since her release, and she got hated until she reached the S rank for support. And when she was ranked lower? Only hate. The same happened to characters with some lacks in the kit and the same will still happen because people can’t appreciate a character if it isn’t cracked. For now, she’s luckluster, and i know. But she’s definitely not a shit :/
+she will be buffed with Fontaine, and i hope she will get some more love cause the design and the personality of the pg are both really interesting.
hope you understand what i’m saying
@@andresmunoz6356 unfortunately it is almost true, but she’s better as a support than as a dps. If she’s with some good characters she can have a decent tanking role. Hope she will improve with Fontaine
@@zuz6942 The problem is you were overselling her massively. She isn’t a good tank support because her damage mitigation has bad uptime and she can’t battery her team. She’s usable at best, and gets basically outperformed by proper shielders. It’s fine if you like her, but don’t defend obviously terrible decisions made by hoyo. She was intentionally nerfed to all hell, and this is unacceptable.
Dehyas burst is just like ayakas burst... But it's fire
Wut? Its no where ayaka burst. XD this is c6 r5 dehya. If this is ayaka on c6 r5, then the damage would be night and day xD
yep, except the part where you can swap ayaka to maintain 4 vv buff + freeze to lockdown enemies instead of pushing them away and chasing them and lost aoe dps. if this was a c6 ayaka the clear time would have been insanely shorter.
they did dehya so dirty that even her artifacts in beta 3.6 got nerfed. i just hope the future fontain character WILL work well on her.
Ohhh, I get it now, you just have to pull Cyno and Dehya c6 to be useful. 😎 noted
You saw the others characters c6 with his weapon?
You know that if you use r5 Aqua Simulacra then yelan do more damage than cyno thats why you Favonius Warbow
You are funny man.. source damage is from kazuha c6, nahida c6 and the other. Not cyno and dehya 😂
But if you play without Cyno or Dehya then what can they do?
when u have C6 yelan x C6 nahida, there's nothing to fear lmao. try use pt c6 dehya with sub dps and support c0. that what u call content
you're aware that kazuha constellations don't do anything to non-reaction teams like dehya's one, right...? and that his c6 only enables him to be an on-field dps, right?
@@danielfromaespa they say so just because they have never read the constellations of every character, probably they’re just AR20😂
Nahida without elemental reactions is useless
Man dehya is so bullcrap
A really unnecessary comment.
"Just get her cons"
-mihoyo
Oh my god, please don't do this to cyno, play him on aggravate if you have c6, he is the best aggravate carry in the entire game if c6, please play him right, any cyno with SOSS and c2 or higher is built for aggravate. Playing him in hyperbloom is a waste of his kit
I refuse to play pure Aggravate with the current team choice we have right now. I'm waiting for Baizhu because the team drafting is much more flexible imo.
@@alyJ_impact I see where you are coming from, judging that you will get baizhu, I belive you will run him in aggravate? He is the strongest aggravate carry in the entire game mate at c6, I hope you will use him in aggravate, Goodluck on your baizhu summons
@@God_Reaper_6000 yeah I'll have a go with Aggravate and see how it goes
I use him in aggravate at C0 too (Nahida, Kazuha, Kuki with key) aggravate is the most fun with him imo, hyperbloom has very messy rotations and I like seeing bigger numbers on him lol
Quickbloom is probably stronger. Perhaps not at C6 i don't have cons. Quickbloom is by no means wrong.
bennett and kazhua still make dehya c6r5 trash... but hey... good way of spending money
she actually did 40k per punch even without them and she’s a support more than a dps… so man, that’s not trash.
I don’t wana be mean but dehya and cyno are KIND OF WEAK…..
cyno is the best aggravate character at c6 though
sadly he was doing hyperbloom which pretty much means he's doing electro charged/hyperbloom and no aggravate. c1, c2, c3 and c6 greatly boost his aggr damage but they all went to waste with that team.
@@Nawrwhaleuhm not really since yelan applies less hydro than xingqui so the electro character still does aggravate dmg + some hyperblooms
@@BAKAJDSJS he does *some* aggr damage but it's far from full time. the hyperbloom you're talking about is good when he's c0 but starting from c2? it's dumb. they lost multiple skills alone with 0 icd doing electro charged. his c1 boosts his NA speed by 20% giving him more NAs to aggravate, c2 giving him 50% dmg bonus (similar to raiden's c2/yae's c6) which boosts his aggr damage while doing nothing for hyperbloom, c6 releasing bolt which is considered skill dmg that has no icd meaning every single one can aggr as long as it doesn't contact hydro. pretty much the same case with haitham and miko. both are good with hyperbloom at c0 but their cons push them to be full time quicken dps with significant gap otherwise you're just wasting them.