You should watch our tour of EVGA's GPU lab in a final reveal of its secrets prior to closing GPU manufacturing doors: th-cam.com/video/cr3lsU718Lg/w-d-xo.html Check out our Best Cases of 2022 video! th-cam.com/video/pL5uttjPWZE/w-d-xo.html
I hope you expand on the vapor chamber theory, Steve! A lot of cases have no options but to have IO at the top, and that is very bad, at least for my Sapphire Nitro+ card.
It’s impressive how casually “CEO/Designer” just walks in and starts talking about the design of things. No marketing/PR guys, just straight to source. Love that.
@@spaggtrait1608 If you're going to be that loose with what constitutes 'marketing' then so is having a good product... It's clear he wasn't reading from a script. He actually is aware of the design of his products and, marketing or not, that's impressive. And will contribute to the quality of his products. Most tech CEO's know next to nothing about the technology they are working with. A CEO who understands his products is going to be better at identifying issues with them, hiring the right people, and won't be as easily bullshitted.
That CEO sounds like exactly the type of person you'd want running a computer case business - clearly knew his stuff and wasn't just a faceless executive. No wonder my o11 is such a nice box with that attention to detail.
Explains why Lian Li was smashing the year 2022, Fractal better step up too or we will have a clear leader for 2023. Or maybe another one chiming in? Case market is currently pretty exciting.
I never even heard of Lian Li until JTC did a video on their fans. It took me a few hours to figure out how to set the control box up but now that I got it squared away I already consider them to be the best fans I've purchased to date. Absolutely beautiful and then he did a review on one of their cases. Needless to say, I'm going to be using their products for quite a long time at this point.
@@BullsMahunny Considering I have a Lian Li case from 20 years ago that is still great, you can and will use them until the apocalypse. That's the great thing about good design, it's timeless.
Wow, that CEO. He was technically competent and instructive. He is not just a business figurehead. I love it. Lian Li was just _'another brand'_ before this, for me. I will be paying much more attention to their products now.
Lian Li has been doing a lot of good technical and functional designs, it shows the difference between companies who are lead solely by money people vs people with engineering experience. Lian Li is definitely a company that listens to what engineers have to say and what people want first, than apply cost calculation and marketing to their designs. Personally I'm amazed by my Lancool 2 mesh simple ting like glass on hinges and strong magnets, make access to the case, so fast and easy. l never worry about breaking the glass, because in most cases you have to take off panel completely to access innards of the case. Lancool 3 seems to build on it to make entire case design better in every aspect.
i'll never buy a non-lian li case. I'm still using a PC-A71B from *2007* and after 15 years, cross country moves, countless builds, and daily use as a footrest, it still looks brand new. i honestly don't forsee ever replacing it, but if i do, it'll be another lian li. funnily enough the removable gpu stabilization bracket it came with 15 years ago is very relevant now with the advent of 4090s and such
I've been in love with Lian Li since the original Dynamic and each new revision and the lancool series just gets better and better. I wanted to get the Lancool to do a review but it's always out of stock lol. I'm hoping the EVO XL is compatible with the EK Reflection 2. Being able to transfer super expensive components like that will be a plus.
Lian Li definitely has created lots of interesting products in the past few years. Seeing their CEO being so approachable makes me realize their success is definitely not by luck
Something I've always respected about Lian Li is the balance between quality and scrappy(innovative without wasting too much money on over-polishing) efforts they've made on their products. They always seem to bring something fun, and a good value to the table, even if it isn't perfect. More often than not, a lot of their case designs border on timeless. When it comes to stuff like their daisy-chain fans, it's refreshing. For a company that's been around as long as they have at this point, it's incredible to be able to say that they don't appear to have sold their soul for safe gains from a consumer standpoint.
I really like the idea of those moveable cable routing bars. They can be pre-installed in some decent default positions that should work for most people, but having the option to move them and make your own paths for different lengths/sizes of cables is such a good feature
Yeah, why not. I'm not sure why anyone would really object to them, since they can easily be removed, as long as the velcro is also included. I would probably use both, just to get that shit as tight as possible.
@@kondziofon You mean "ridged" and "stubborn." Sorry, not trying to be a spelling nazi, just thought it might be helpful to any Liam Li people who might see your post, since English won't be their first language.
@@upforellie That's right, I've had their older case PC-7B plus II (I called it black beauty as it was in Black brushed aluminum) and had it for 16 years. Just this year I replaced it with an O11D EVO Reversible Black case and really don't want to let that old case go, might use it as a server case..
Lian Li continues to be on the cutting edge of modular design. Seeing the CEO talk so fluently about the design philosophy without trashy filler lingo is also great to see. Makes me happy to see a company that is seemingly on the same page throughout the company.
Do you think hard mounting those brackets would be better? I think so, it would probably reduce the cost a slight amount and still give you the same idea. Maybe 3-4 brackets would give you enough leeway for the cutouts to route into.
@@TEAMSILVERBAX fixing it could be nice but it could also be a pain in the butt when it gets in the way which you can't over come.if it's fixed with mutilation of the case.
IMO, these videos are the foundation of GN's unique journalism and in-depth pieces. Love seeing you mingle with designers, technical staff and big brains behind these operations from your hard earned connections. The industry context you provide through these difficult to access for laymen pieces is great, helps us get a better glimpse behind the challenges but also ingenuity of engineering that could be boring if just on a spec sheet. The unfiltered view of things without PR/marketing also helps with a good raw and genuine presentation of things and unbiased discussions. I can put a picture of quality and feeling of a company pursuing quality to Lian-Li right now thanks to this.
Awesome to see a company CEO / Designer taking pride in their products design and talking openly about it like a pc gamer would with his mates 🥰👍💪. Jameson should be out there chatting with his customers etc and directly get a little feedback on their products from users etc. Total respect ✊to Jameson love to see him again on GN 👍😇
Instead of just a couple of the metal clips, would actually prefer having more of them and they be plastic with just a couple holes in them for some zip ties or velcro cable straps to go through. I find those metal punched out tabs to be difficult to work with.
Yeah that bracket system is cool, it also would allow for custom printing whatever you wanted to use back there too if you wanted to get fancy. Or even allow for future accessories they could sell especially if they keep using that design idea across future products.
Steve you are literally the best ambassador for the western tech community to Taiwan that I have seen. Thank you so much for your amazing videos always, and thank you Lian Li for hosting Steve!!!
I actually love the idea of the double radiator AIO, for folks who don’t have access to tools to make a custom loop or simply don’t want to, it could be a very effective choice, I would say that being able to fill yourself potentially would be good, and perhaps the ability to order different lengths for the tubing between radiators could be beneficial for some systems
I love the cable path modular pieces; the vertical hole spacing makes me think there should be different size options for that location, some to fit across horizontally, some smaller vertical for tighter management. The GPU fan + Mount is awesome. Looking forward for a full review.
I think it's too rigid to have metal pieces to hold cables you can just as well have velcro strips or tape ... it's even more modular, a way to attach them to the back though would be welcome (to hold them in place with all the cables attached
I absolutely love that cable routing bracket with the rails of mount points, especially the fact that it supports either orientation and on both columns.
YES. I have a massive be quiet case, and the amount of space between mobo is average, which is really tiny. Youd think such large cases capable of fitting many parts and components would also allow extra space for neat and serviceable cable routing. Its such a pain to get the back panel refitted every time.
This is why I rock with Lian li products. You can tell they put real passion and thought into their products and are willing to put stuff out there for constructive criticism and suggestions from the users while they are still in the R&D phase. Shows they actually care about the customer. No surprise why they have the most popular case and why they are a successful company
haha, we've known Jameson a long time -- ever since before the O11 series revolutionized Lian Li! He's very approachable and extremely open to input and conversations about design, which is probably a large part of why they've been so successful.
@@GamersNexus Yeah, I remember when he took over. I believe it was from his father, right? The quick pivot they made to modernize the lian LI build approach really made a huge difference for the company. The older high build quality, but expensive, and somewhat difficult to work with cases were awesome for enthusiasts yet the mainstream audience just didn't find them compelling. Getting in front of the mainstream audience is absolutely key for the success of every case manufacturer long term.
A few of those brackets would be super useful. When you think about it, someone buying a large case will probably have a complicated system with wires running anywhere and eventually using zipties to tie down something as thick as a rope feels like cutting a corner where I'd have something totally secure but there aren't any conventional options available. So a big yes on that! Probably need between 2 and 4 for systems in the case
This whole thing was super cool, being able to give feedback on things in development, having the ceo himself actually explaining how things work and why certain decisions were made and just getting to take a look at upcoming products, all super cool.
As someone who obsesses over keeping the cables in large racks of equipment looking neat and clean, I love the cable management options. Much better than any other case I have seen.
Lian Li has awesome products. They give me EVGA type vibes where they really care about the products they make and the quality. Feels like a company run by PC enthusiasts.
@@richardgodoy4373 Customer service can be strange where, depending on who is in charge of it and in what region, it can sometimes differ greatly unfortunately. Customer service can be amazing in one region of the world and mediocre in another region just based on personnel and their experience. Edit: Some people have good interactions with Lian Li customer service but others, like yourself apparently, don't have the same experience. This can also be something we see in our day to day lives when dealing with people. There was a case worker who I'd heard terrible things about from a few people but when I dealt with that person they treated me with respect and helped me out tremendously. Come to find out a lot of those people who complained about him were not honest, responsible, hardworking people and he didn't feel like wasting his time on them and was short with them. Me on the other hand he was more patient with and extremely helpful and informative. Night and day difference just based on character and how you deal with people.
@@richardgodoy4373 I disagree. I had a bunch of Lian Li UNI Fan SL v1’s: 10 120mm They had a lighting issue. My brother got them for me back in October for my birthday from Microcenter and I didn’t actually install them until January when I built my new PC. I opened a ticket with them and showed them all evidence except I didn’t have the proof of purchase. They went ahead and sent me 10 BRAND NEW Uni Fan SL 120mm without the need of me sending my bad ones in
I am so impressed at the CEO wanting to be there and real! So absolutely refreshing and it is a testament to how Lian Li has been so innovative with their products.
Jameson is the most likeable CEO of a tech company I've ever seen! All the best to Lian Li, over the years of building PCs I have only positive things to say about them. I hope they do a console-like mini ITX case which fits into the amplifier/receiver slot of TV furniture some time soon, something like Fractal Node 202, as it is kind of unbeatable still in this slim performance segment, even though it has plenty of drawbacks. My family's PC cases (home, office, lab etc.) are all silent and beautiful Lian Li, but the one under my TV to play couch games is still Node 202 with an RTX3070 in it 🙂 Please, beat it, I'm tired of cleaning it!
I REALLY like the idea of the cable retention bars. Something like that would have been very beneficial in the mini, where I had excess cable length to try to pin down. Honestly, I'm really excited to see the final EVO XL and can't wait to get it.
Getting to see the Ceo himself explain a case like this, makes me very happy i went with lancool III case and their infinity fans. knowing the Ceo himself cares and is this involved is a refreshing thing to see.
Lian Li is the most impressive case/part manufacturer in the game right now. From their customer service to design language, you can tell the CEO is heavily involved in the day to day ops at his company.
The removable cable hold-down bracket is a great idea I think, as long as enough are included to use as envisioned, and they are removable so if you'd rather go classic zip-tie or velcro you can. Honestly I'm very excited to see where Lian Li goes, I'm a big fan of the "mechanical but practical" way they simplify areas of a build or organization without going so crazy it ends up not as functional as intended! Cheers👍
have the older version of that case, and that is already mindblowingly amazing! Managed to fit 3x 120x3 radiators and a extra 5 fans on top of the 9, including pump ect aswell ofc. Its unreal.
I will always remember the build I did in an O11 Dynamic Evo as the easiest build I've ever done, specifically because of the flexibility for cable management. Honestly everything in here looks like it has the convenience of the enthusiast in mind, and I think the options are all valuable to different types of builders. This looks great
I think the cable routing is a good idea but i think it might also be a good idea to orient the keyholes so that the holders slide in from the upper direction and lock by being pushed down otherwise they might come loose.
i agree, i also wonder if the metal canal could cause problems by damaging wires through the bare metal surface, i am a mechatronics trainee and we besacially get tought "No edges and especially no metal and metal edges in contact with the wiring, as any sort of vibration could and WILL damage the insulation", so these canals should either not be made of metal or have some inner non metal layer to make sure that the case vibration will not damage any insulation. I am aware that most cables in PSU's have an extra layer nowadays but safe is safe
@@amaizen4817 Cases do not vibrate nearly as much as any machine with moving parts. Certainly not enough to wear through cables even over years if just left alone. The risk of that metal wearing through insulation on power supply cables is extremely minute. A rubber edge certainly wouldn't hurt- but it's also not necessary. Braided cables FTW!
@@PlayinWithMahWii I am not talking about machines but normal electro installations, though granted we also talk about 230 Volts in my country so any sort of damage to insulation has a bigger effect than with lower voltage used in PC components, so it matters less, but cases do vibrate enough for this to be an actual problem if someone were to do a real tight bend on an edge. It would be user error but implementing functions that prevent user error is never bad i guess
That cable routing looks pretty neat. I think that the ability to have velcro ties ontop of the metal bars and other cables run through the bars will be good for keeling different cables seperated. I'm interested in this case. If the thermals are good I may pick that up for my next upgrade.
I could see the metal bar route being great for dual routing cables for sure. Keep big cables you wont touch very often in the metal bar route (damn chonky 24 pin cables), and leave the velcro route nice and clean for cables that maybe you will be moving more often (3 and 4 pin cables). Maybe everyone won't get use out of it, but I'd love to see it personally. Having it as dlc would be nice in theory, but I don't think it'd work price-wise or engineering-wise really. The tooling would still have to be there, and adding in those metal bars probably isn't much more expensive if you already have the tooling. Lian Li is free to find a solution that works for everyone though, if even possible.
Feedback for the galahad, I'd try using conventional aio fittings for the first radiator and quick disconnect fittings (connecting the gap between first and second radiator) fitted to predetermined tube lengths for generalized case sizes w/ a refill port/hole on second rad or a refill hole on both with maybe some way to check the liquid fill level. Also using quick disconnect fitting to bridge the gap between rad 1 and rad 2 also allows an opening for the diy masses to have some fun with hard lines I they preferred
Lian Li, in regards to the dual 360 AIO: perhaps you could make a kit that uses tubes with quick connect fittings to attach the second radiator to the first. The tubing could come in different lengths in the kit so that the customer could build a kit with the length of tubing their case needs to attach the two rads together. Of course, I'm no engineer so this may be totally infeasible. Not sure if quick connect fittings would work or not. Anyway, love the video, GN, and the future product line-up, Lian Li.
Make all radiators with quick connect fittings and different quick connect tubes available, as well as different radiator sizes, that way they can quick connect the radiator in a daisy chain for many different build types
Feedback: Really like the adjustable cable routing brackets, having something that looks sturdy but can be moved as needed without a tie down is interesting and like how it can be horizontal or vertical mounted. For the duel radiator AIO the biggest concern is the same that you brought up is how many cases it will fit in. Because it is an AIO I do not know if there would be an easy way to have different tube lengths to help with that because that would just cause issues with cost and selection. The case looks fantastic, really interested in see how it comes together and a full review. Back to you Steve.
I love those modular cable brackets! It's a minor nit pick of mine, but I don't like being stuck w/how a case designer thinks my cables ought to be routed. With the rest of the crazy adjustability, it makes sense that routing be equally as flexible.
It's great to see a CEO that's knowledgeable about the products his company makes and is willing to take feedback. This might make me lean towards getting a Lian Li case next time I need a new one (I currently have a Fractal R6)
Can't wait for the new EVO XL! Been a fan of Lian Li's creativity, design and high quality for years. The continued innovation is such a breath of fresh air. Improving rather than sitting on their laurels seems to be the Lian Li way. The cable management has been improving and it is really nice to have choices on which options to use while being able to remove almost everything if you like. I am a fan of the 'U' shaped cable routing options.👍
This case look exactly what I was looking for for last few months..please, when it will be released? Iam waiting for it. It looks absolutellly best. Thank you for your hard work guys..
For what it’s worth with the cable management brackets, I think it’s a really good idea, especially being able to flip them 90°. My only input would to maybe make them a little more low profile, or curve the edges to make them not as bulky. They seemed a little big.
I love the concept of those metal cable routing brackets, they'd especially come in handy for builds like mine that run push/pull on radiators. I have an unholy tangle of cables in that specific spot on my O11 XL and those sort of brackets would allow me to get it a bit more under control. If nothing else I'd like to see those brackets sold separately, I can understand not wanting to raise the price of the case itself.
This looks like an amazing case to do a build in and easy access for future mods/upgrades as well as the ability to move things around a little bit to make it easier to reach parts when cleaning
If Lian-Li is listening, please consider offering the 2x360mm AIO also *without* the fans. People who would consider buying these most likely already have their own fans or would want different fans. Offering a no fan option would make this cost competitive against a custom-loop solutions.
Definitely … others make it more difficult to combine their products with other brands. Like NZXT. Bought the new Kraken Elite 360 v2 2024. They now have flat 8-pin fan connector … no option to directly link other fan brands. Especially as its tailored for their single frame 360 mm fan. Lian Li has the flat 7-pin plugs. But even the post controller regular fan plug does not fit any more. Means you need to improvise managing cpu cooling.
He’s so young for a CEO and makes a fantastic product! I am very happy that someone can achieve so much at such a young age! I absolutely love everything they make. I’m a fanboy. This is so awesome that he might read our comments.
Apparently his dad stepped down a few years back and Jameson took over. He didn't start Lian Li himself since I think the company was started before he was born assuming Jameson is younger than 39.
@@vigilant_1934 Yeah I was going to say Lian Li has been around for a while. They have always made good cases but were more reserved. Would make sense he took over, I think he's doing good work.
Gotta say, even though their cases are usually more than what I'll pay for case, they look amazing and actually care about what people say to them for upgrades! So many times that you get reviewers such as yourself give critiques of products and the companies just don't even bother as they almost copy and paste for their next generation. Lian Li seems to be one of a kind where they've been improving their cases every single time and generally not in really bad directions either! Keep up the great work Lian Li, you have a lot of great products!
I was on the same mindset, that a case shouldn't be that expensive no matter what it has. last year I got a O11D as a Christmas gift and it has been the best experience I had building. no cuts on my fingers and easiness to work. gotta say, the cases are really worth their price
I have always gone back to lian li after having disappointing experiences with other cases. I have had the pc-010, v2000, and now the o11. Hell I imported the v2000 from Taiwan directly when I was living in Korea. Always liked how they tried things differently while continuing to use effective mechanical designs and materials. Loved this.
Jameson, I really like this design. It's a nice upgrade over the previous O11D XL. The cable management bar seems brilliant. I'm always a fan of modularity in chassis designs. I don't think it would work for this design but Gosh do I like when I can have the motherboard inverted.
Love Lian li cases. I don't know how they made the perfect case even better. The cable management bracket looks cool. I can imagine it being a little more finicky to install when populated with lots of cables but I'd have to try it myself. Maybe a compromise to get the best of both worlds would be to include another set of brackets with loops for cable ties/Velcro strips as well as the c bracket.
That dual radiator aio would work well with qc and different length hoses. Cost would go up obviously but would allow for more customization. It seems like you could just go custom loop at this point maybe there’s a market for it.
Love what I'm seeing there with that case. Even if the thermals were a wash compared to what we see now, this helps to address the issue of the GPUs getting bigger and bigger.
Thank you Jameson for taking the time to show GN around! My current workstation build wound up being a Corsair-based build, partly because the O11 SKU I wanted was out of stock, and partly because I know I have 100% control over the Corsair under Linux … Wait, LEDs in a workstation? Yes! If one of my fans starts to have unstable tach readings, its LEDs light up a warning. If part of the case starts experiencing a hotspot, LEDs in that region light up a different warning. If I have a long process like compiling a huge codebase, rendering a long sequence, or even just ripping a blu-ray … other LEDs will light up to indicate task complete. And when they're not conveying useful information, they look cool. Since **NO** hardware maker documents their USB device's protocols it's all gotta be reverse engineered. But I'm definitely interested in Lian-Li's upcoming case designs. Coolers and blinkenlights will depend on how fast they get reverse-engineered or if protocols info actually gets released by someone.
I absolutely love my O11 Dynamic evo with the SL Infinity fans and the lian li aio "All white build." They look amazing and function perfectly with great temps. I'll be a long-term lian li fan from now and on. It's worth every penny.
@@GamersNexus I would vote for a new top panel and side panel with the Evo style mesh pattern. I could finally ditch the annoying air filters that get clogged with the old style slit openings.
@@GamersNexus definitely the ability to add the new IO side panel on the Evo lineup! My pc is mounted and it’s a pain to reach up to plug stuff in all the time
Man! It seems like Lian Li is doing some pretty cool things for PC mods! I cant wait to see some of the things showcased on the show today, on the market! I'm definitely curious to see the performance of that double 360 rad AIO. I also wonder if they plan on doing a double 240 rad setup. Or a double 280 rad setup. That would be cool if they are!
Big W for this video and you see why Lian Li is so successful. I've been super happy with their products and their warranties are great. Had my aio go out, and they replaced it within 2 weeks.
I love the metal cable routing guides. Actually, I am loving this case PERIOD. Just want a release date. Going to be building a high end system and I was considering using my Enthoo or maybe even my old Lian Li PC-80 Armorsuit. Now, I am going to wait on this gem.
I love Lian Li, I have the 011D in each size. What I would like to see, is a back cover to route the cabling down without having the cable sticking out of the back of the PC. Similar to the NV7. A lot of people, including myself, are putting high end water cooling components in the case, and would like to display their PC in their home. This would let us show it from all angles. Also, if possible, change the compatibility from three 420mm rads to three 480mm’s. I have a 4090 and 13900KS. The extra radiator surface area would help out a lot. A lot of people buying these type of cases are going for the high end components, which unfortunately produce a lot of heat especially in overclocking scenarios. Lian Li is in a league of its own when it comes to case design. These two changes would make literally the perfect PC case for the high-end enthusiast.
Really like the work Lian Li is doing. Useful, clean, mechanical, adjustable, functional... A+ The rear cable channel adjustments will improve ease of installation, its a good addition.
2 things... LOVE the DIY cable routing. Not everyone routes their cables the same way. It would be great if it was adjustable. I also really, really love the ability to add RGB to AIO fans. And you can do a whole 360 for the half the price of a RGB fan. That's awesome and great value...
no DVD-RW slot vertical fans will clog it's bearing if they are - fluid dynamic bearing - positioned vertically - being in a dusty environment - not used for a while there's a video of JayzTwoCents about that Lian Li should sell that case with fans and those fans should not be fluid dynamic bearing hard disk slots are vertical and some hard disk models don't work vertically Toshiba with red stickers, for example P.S.: i like the Lian Li PC 60 model
Thank you Jameson, for being so cool and allowing this unique look into your own very own living room (so to speak) to get a look of insights, ideas and actual future products! This is truly incredible and has elevated my love for this company even more! Also, to answer Jameson's question, I personally do agree with the Channel Layout. It gets my thumbsup! Edit: & of course, thank you Steve 😄.
Really appreciate Lian Li being so open and casual about showing off their stuff. I really wanted a O11 Mini for my recent build, but was kind-of forced into going with the Phanteks G500A because of the cooler and fans I had already gotten that the Mini unfortunately was just a bit too small for.
Lian LI! Embrace the 3d Printing Community! Upload some designs like the cable routes and hard mounts to be given to the community. This case is a maker's dream with the right support! I would 100% go this route for my next build if I had the option to design/print extra drive trays, color correct build accessories, and extra flair could easily be added in later. Make contests when this case launches to provide the best accessory they can design and give a free case away to draw up interest. As for that double AIO rad... sell cases with the AIO already attached, I'd consider it. Edit: Asking ChatGPT to elaborate on how 3d Printing could revolutionize this case if you open sourced a few aspects of it: Incorporating 3D printing into the design of a PC case for the maker community can be a great way to add customization options and make the case more attractive to makers. Here are a few ways that 3D printing could be incorporated into a PC case design: Customization options: 3D printing can be used to create custom panels, bezels, and other decorative elements for the case, allowing makers to customize the look of their PC to their own personal style. Cable management: 3D printing can be used to create custom cable routing channels and tie-down points, which can help to keep cables organized and improve the overall appearance of the PC build. Ease of access: 3D printing can be used to create custom panels or brackets that make it easier to access and work on the components inside the case. Functionality: 3D printing can be used to create custom brackets or mounting points for additional fans or other components, allowing makers to improve the functionality of their PC build. Aesthetics: 3D printing can be used to create unique and intricate designs for the case, adding a personal touch and making the case stand out from others on the market. Overall, incorporating 3D printing into the design of a PC case can help to make it more customizable, functional, and aesthetically pleasing for the maker community.
If Lian Li included those dual radiator coolers pre-installed on some cases, that'd be nice. I think compatibility with other cases might be a bit too hit or miss for it to be viable on its own
It looks like the back of the case has screw mount holes for a 2nd PSU at the top but the grill needs to be removable. A case that big should be able to fit dual PSU's for extreme builds, or if space is a concern, a pair of 1000W SFX power supplies.
Very, very cool video. The add- on RGB plates for the 'regular' fans is a great idea to keep the aesthetics of a build looking similar all around. Thank you Jameson & the GN team!
I've always wanted a Lian Li case but they're so pricey. I can definitely see you get what you pay for though, so much cool stuff happening under the brand.
What I love about modern information era, is *how freakin cool it is* that "regular Joes" like Steve _(basically people, which you can easily relate to)_ can go about and make very high quality product documentaries such as this one, with big companies like Lian Li. In the past, big companies would seem like faceless beasts, but what these types of videos show, is that there are actual cool people behind these companies, and that makes these companies appear way more aproachable, trustworthy and even "humane". I just find it very cool, that's all. Have a great day.
I have a white Lancool 2 case and i love this thing, currently running 11 case fans in it, 360 rad in front in push pull config as intake, 2 intakes directly under my GPU, and 2 too and 1 rear exhaust fans, all Corsair SP120 RGB Elite fans that have the 7 vanes as the motor support, thermals and dust are flawless
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You should watch our tour of EVGA's GPU lab in a final reveal of its secrets prior to closing GPU manufacturing doors: th-cam.com/video/cr3lsU718Lg/w-d-xo.html
Check out our Best Cases of 2022 video! th-cam.com/video/pL5uttjPWZE/w-d-xo.html
I hope you expand on the vapor chamber theory, Steve! A lot of cases have no options but to have IO at the top, and that is very bad, at least for my Sapphire Nitro+ card.
The Design is very human
I thought the EVGA video was brilliant and recommend. It’s bittersweet and the end of an era.
hang on - the case fans in back/side are blowing against the backplate of the GPU - that's just wrong
i don't hear an echo.
It’s impressive how casually “CEO/Designer” just walks in and starts talking about the design of things. No marketing/PR guys, just straight to source. Love that.
It's also a marketing tactic.
Also, I'm impressed on how young Jameson is. Lian Li's ethos makes more sense now.
@@spaggtrait1608 If you're going to be that loose with what constitutes 'marketing' then so is having a good product... It's clear he wasn't reading from a script. He actually is aware of the design of his products and, marketing or not, that's impressive. And will contribute to the quality of his products.
Most tech CEO's know next to nothing about the technology they are working with. A CEO who understands his products is going to be better at identifying issues with them, hiring the right people, and won't be as easily bullshitted.
Truth. No BS just straight talk and knowledge from the head honcho.
@@spaggtrait1608 Honestly is Quality.
That CEO sounds like exactly the type of person you'd want running a computer case business - clearly knew his stuff and wasn't just a faceless executive. No wonder my o11 is such a nice box with that attention to detail.
Explains why Lian Li was smashing the year 2022, Fractal better step up too or we will have a clear leader for 2023. Or maybe another one chiming in? Case market is currently pretty exciting.
I never even heard of Lian Li until JTC did a video on their fans. It took me a few hours to figure out how to set the control box up but now that I got it squared away I already consider them to be the best fans I've purchased to date. Absolutely beautiful and then he did a review on one of their cases. Needless to say, I'm going to be using their products for quite a long time at this point.
Also thanks to Der8auer.
@@jellygoo after seeing that fractal case with a wooden front panel and the pop air, boy, is fractal pumping out some cool designs.
@@BullsMahunny Considering I have a Lian Li case from 20 years ago that is still great, you can and will use them until the apocalypse. That's the great thing about good design, it's timeless.
No wonder Lian Li is killing it atm. The CEO is active and passionate and not a faceless exec.
Wow, that CEO. He was technically competent and instructive. He is not just a business figurehead. I love it. Lian Li was just _'another brand'_ before this, for me. I will be paying much more attention to their products now.
Lian Li has been doing a lot of good technical and functional designs,
it shows the difference between companies who are lead solely by money people vs people with engineering experience.
Lian Li is definitely a company that listens to what engineers have to say and what people want first, than apply cost calculation and marketing to their designs.
Personally I'm amazed by my Lancool 2 mesh simple ting like glass on hinges and strong magnets, make access to the case, so fast and easy. l never worry about breaking the glass, because in most cases you have to take off panel completely to access innards of the case.
Lancool 3 seems to build on it to make entire case design better in every aspect.
@@Cypeq Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I have an a4h2o from lian li and I have nothing but good things to say about it
My confidence and trust in Lian Li as a brand has increased dramatically seeing the passion that lies behind the company.
i'll never buy a non-lian li case. I'm still using a PC-A71B from *2007* and after 15 years, cross country moves, countless builds, and daily use as a footrest, it still looks brand new. i honestly don't forsee ever replacing it, but if i do, it'll be another lian li. funnily enough the removable gpu stabilization bracket it came with 15 years ago is very relevant now with the advent of 4090s and such
I've been in love with Lian Li since the original Dynamic and each new revision and the lancool series just gets better and better. I wanted to get the Lancool to do a review but it's always out of stock lol. I'm hoping the EVO XL is compatible with the EK Reflection 2. Being able to transfer super expensive components like that will be a plus.
@@intdawg only issue is i struggle to find lian li products here in the uk
@@22oreos same in france :/ I'm looking for o11 evo grey and really difficult to find. same for spares.
I been a steady patron since their V1000 and V2000 days. Those cases were beautifully engineered!
Finally a CEO how knows his products and can handle them without cringe. Thumpsup Lian Li, feel the passion here
You can tell my man was a PC gamer and was like "Yo I bet I can do this better."
@@BullsMahunny you can say that again
And no copycat tech like Thermaltake and a few others..
Did you mean, thumbs up
@@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover yeah thermaltake and their ceo are so cringe
Shoutout to Lian Li for putting their CEO on camera and him being super knowledgeable of the product. Really shows he has passion for their craft.
Lian Li definitely has created lots of interesting products in the past few years. Seeing their CEO being so approachable makes me realize their success is definitely not by luck
Something I've always respected about Lian Li is the balance between quality and scrappy(innovative without wasting too much money on over-polishing) efforts they've made on their products.
They always seem to bring something fun, and a good value to the table, even if it isn't perfect.
More often than not, a lot of their case designs border on timeless.
When it comes to stuff like their daisy-chain fans, it's refreshing.
For a company that's been around as long as they have at this point, it's incredible to be able to say that they don't appear to have sold their soul for safe gains from a consumer standpoint.
I really like the idea of those moveable cable routing bars. They can be pre-installed in some decent default positions that should work for most people, but having the option to move them and make your own paths for different lengths/sizes of cables is such a good feature
would like to be able to tighten screw for those bars to make it riged for more secure hold on bid stubern cables
Yeah, why not. I'm not sure why anyone would really object to them, since they can easily be removed, as long as the velcro is also included. I would probably use both, just to get that shit as tight as possible.
@@kondziofon You mean "ridged" and "stubborn." Sorry, not trying to be a spelling nazi, just thought it might be helpful to any Liam Li people who might see your post, since English won't be their first language.
@@supertrexandroidx actually it would be "rigid". "Ridged" would mean it has a raised edge or groove on it
I have new confidence in Lian Li after meeting their CEO. It looks like a company we can trust to deliver quality.
He looks like your average 20-something geek. I approve.
They’re the EVGA of the case world
@@upforellie That's right, I've had their older case PC-7B plus II (I called it black beauty as it was in Black brushed aluminum) and had it for 16 years. Just this year I replaced it with an O11D EVO Reversible Black case and really don't want to let that old case go, might use it as a server case..
My first Liam Li case was a PC-V353 from 2012. It got me hooked on their build quality and functionality.
@@Letstryscience Liam Li makes some nice cases
Lian Li continues to be on the cutting edge of modular design. Seeing the CEO talk so fluently about the design philosophy without trashy filler lingo is also great to see. Makes me happy to see a company that is seemingly on the same page throughout the company.
I really like the idea of adjustable cable routing brackets. Would make servicing the PC easier if you don't have to undo then redo cable ties.
They are so cool! Great idea Lian Li.
oh absolutely, yes
Do you think hard mounting those brackets would be better?
I think so, it would probably reduce the cost a slight amount and still give you the same idea.
Maybe 3-4 brackets would give you enough leeway for the cutouts to route into.
Or additional cables being added/removed.
@@TEAMSILVERBAX fixing it could be nice but it could also be a pain in the butt when it gets in the way which you can't over come.if it's fixed with mutilation of the case.
IMO, these videos are the foundation of GN's unique journalism and in-depth pieces. Love seeing you mingle with designers, technical staff and big brains behind these operations from your hard earned connections. The industry context you provide through these difficult to access for laymen pieces is great, helps us get a better glimpse behind the challenges but also ingenuity of engineering that could be boring if just on a spec sheet. The unfiltered view of things without PR/marketing also helps with a good raw and genuine presentation of things and unbiased discussions. I can put a picture of quality and feeling of a company pursuing quality to Lian-Li right now thanks to this.
Awesome to see a company CEO / Designer taking pride in their products design and talking openly about it like a pc gamer would with his mates 🥰👍💪. Jameson should be out there chatting with his customers etc and directly get a little feedback on their products from users etc. Total respect ✊to Jameson love to see him again on GN 👍😇
That cable route thing looks so good. Not forcing people into routing a certain way is always good.
Instead of just a couple of the metal clips, would actually prefer having more of them and they be plastic with just a couple holes in them for some zip ties or velcro cable straps to go through. I find those metal punched out tabs to be difficult to work with.
Yeah that bracket system is cool, it also would allow for custom printing whatever you wanted to use back there too if you wanted to get fancy. Or even allow for future accessories they could sell especially if they keep using that design idea across future products.
massive respect to CEO. Lian Li might be not cheap, but their cases are damn worth every penny.
Steve you are literally the best ambassador for the western tech community to Taiwan that I have seen. Thank you so much for your amazing videos always, and thank you Lian Li for hosting Steve!!!
I actually love the idea of the double radiator AIO, for folks who don’t have access to tools to make a custom loop or simply don’t want to, it could be a very effective choice, I would say that being able to fill yourself potentially would be good, and perhaps the ability to order different lengths for the tubing between radiators could be beneficial for some systems
I love the cable path modular pieces; the vertical hole spacing makes me think there should be different size options for that location, some to fit across horizontally, some smaller vertical for tighter management. The GPU fan + Mount is awesome. Looking forward for a full review.
I think it's too rigid to have metal pieces to hold cables
you can just as well have velcro strips or tape ...
it's even more modular, a way to attach them to the back though would be welcome (to hold them in place with all the cables attached
Same. I do wish they used a magnetic push pin instead of screws, so we have less chance of stripping, and it'll be easier to work with.
I absolutely love that cable routing bracket with the rails of mount points, especially the fact that it supports either orientation and on both columns.
YES. I have a massive be quiet case, and the amount of space between mobo is average, which is really tiny.
Youd think such large cases capable of fitting many parts and components would also allow extra space for neat and serviceable cable routing.
Its such a pain to get the back panel refitted every time.
This is why I rock with Lian li products. You can tell they put real passion and thought into their products and are willing to put stuff out there for constructive criticism and suggestions from the users while they are still in the R&D phase. Shows they actually care about the customer. No surprise why they have the most popular case and why they are a successful company
"oh, yeah, this is Jameson, he's the CEO" 😂 the way he said it so casually, like he's not talking to the head of a multi-million dollar company
haha, we've known Jameson a long time -- ever since before the O11 series revolutionized Lian Li! He's very approachable and extremely open to input and conversations about design, which is probably a large part of why they've been so successful.
@@GamersNexus Yeah, I remember when he took over. I believe it was from his father, right? The quick pivot they made to modernize the lian LI build approach really made a huge difference for the company. The older high build quality, but expensive, and somewhat difficult to work with cases were awesome for enthusiasts yet the mainstream audience just didn't find them compelling. Getting in front of the mainstream audience is absolutely key for the success of every case manufacturer long term.
Haha. Lian LI has always been enthusiast driven. Imo the most enthusiast friendly of all case oems.
He looks super chill. That case would be awesome with a distro plate where the glass is
The case would be awesome if it had a distro plate where the glass is
Really like what they doing with cable ties and the uni-fan setup. Great to see Lian Li CEO present.
Love it when CEO's do on camera appearances and actually know about the products.
A few of those brackets would be super useful. When you think about it, someone buying a large case will probably have a complicated system with wires running anywhere and eventually using zipties to tie down something as thick as a rope feels like cutting a corner where I'd have something totally secure but there aren't any conventional options available. So a big yes on that! Probably need between 2 and 4 for systems in the case
This whole thing was super cool, being able to give feedback on things in development, having the ceo himself actually explaining how things work and why certain decisions were made and just getting to take a look at upcoming products, all super cool.
I love the idea of the cable management bar! Please add this to all future cases!
I still keep coming back to this video waiting for the EVO XL
As someone who obsesses over keeping the cables in large racks of equipment looking neat and clean, I love the cable management options. Much better than any other case I have seen.
Lian Li has awesome products. They give me EVGA type vibes where they really care about the products they make and the quality. Feels like a company run by PC enthusiasts.
Except there customer service makes them not worth dealing with, where Evga takes care of their customers.
@@richardgodoy4373 Customer service can be strange where, depending on who is in charge of it and in what region, it can sometimes differ greatly unfortunately. Customer service can be amazing in one region of the world and mediocre in another region just based on personnel and their experience.
Edit: Some people have good interactions with Lian Li customer service but others, like yourself apparently, don't have the same experience. This can also be something we see in our day to day lives when dealing with people.
There was a case worker who I'd heard terrible things about from a few people but when I dealt with that person they treated me with respect and helped me out tremendously. Come to find out a lot of those people who complained about him were not honest, responsible, hardworking people and he didn't feel like wasting his time on them and was short with them. Me on the other hand he was more patient with and extremely helpful and informative. Night and day difference just based on character and how you deal with people.
@@richardgodoy4373 I disagree.
I had a bunch of Lian Li UNI Fan SL v1’s:
10 120mm
They had a lighting issue. My brother got them for me back in October for my birthday from Microcenter and I didn’t actually install them until January when I built my new PC.
I opened a ticket with them and showed them all evidence except I didn’t have the proof of purchase.
They went ahead and sent me 10 BRAND NEW Uni Fan SL 120mm without the need of me sending my bad ones in
I am so impressed at the CEO wanting to be there and real!
So absolutely refreshing and it is a testament to how Lian Li has been so innovative with their products.
Jameson is the most likeable CEO of a tech company I've ever seen! All the best to Lian Li, over the years of building PCs I have only positive things to say about them. I hope they do a console-like mini ITX case which fits into the amplifier/receiver slot of TV furniture some time soon, something like Fractal Node 202, as it is kind of unbeatable still in this slim performance segment, even though it has plenty of drawbacks. My family's PC cases (home, office, lab etc.) are all silent and beautiful Lian Li, but the one under my TV to play couch games is still Node 202 with an RTX3070 in it 🙂 Please, beat it, I'm tired of cleaning it!
I REALLY like the idea of the cable retention bars. Something like that would have been very beneficial in the mini, where I had excess cable length to try to pin down. Honestly, I'm really excited to see the final EVO XL and can't wait to get it.
Getting to see the Ceo himself explain a case like this, makes me very happy i went with lancool III case and their infinity fans. knowing the Ceo himself cares and is this involved is a refreshing thing to see.
Lian Li is absolutely killing it!! I hope they keep innovating
Lian Li is the most impressive case/part manufacturer in the game right now. From their customer service to design language, you can tell the CEO is heavily involved in the day to day ops at his company.
The removable cable hold-down bracket is a great idea I think, as long as enough are included to use as envisioned, and they are removable so if you'd rather go classic zip-tie or velcro you can. Honestly I'm very excited to see where Lian Li goes, I'm a big fan of the "mechanical but practical" way they simplify areas of a build or organization without going so crazy it ends up not as functional as intended! Cheers👍
have the older version of that case, and that is already mindblowingly amazing! Managed to fit 3x 120x3 radiators and a extra 5 fans on top of the 9, including pump ect aswell ofc. Its unreal.
I will always remember the build I did in an O11 Dynamic Evo as the easiest build I've ever done, specifically because of the flexibility for cable management. Honestly everything in here looks like it has the convenience of the enthusiast in mind, and I think the options are all valuable to different types of builders. This looks great
I think the cable routing is a good idea but i think it might also be a good idea to orient the keyholes so that the holders slide in from the upper direction and lock by being pushed down otherwise they might come loose.
i agree, i also wonder if the metal canal could cause problems by damaging wires through the bare metal surface, i am a mechatronics trainee and we besacially get tought "No edges and especially no metal and metal edges in contact with the wiring, as any sort of vibration could and WILL damage the insulation", so these canals should either not be made of metal or have some inner non metal layer to make sure that the case vibration will not damage any insulation.
I am aware that most cables in PSU's have an extra layer nowadays but safe is safe
This, and yes make them in plastic / rubber.
Good point!
@@amaizen4817 Cases do not vibrate nearly as much as any machine with moving parts. Certainly not enough to wear through cables even over years if just left alone. The risk of that metal wearing through insulation on power supply cables is extremely minute. A rubber edge certainly wouldn't hurt- but it's also not necessary.
Braided cables FTW!
@@PlayinWithMahWii I am not talking about machines but normal electro installations, though granted we also talk about 230 Volts in my country so any sort of damage to insulation has a bigger effect than with lower voltage used in PC components, so it matters less, but cases do vibrate enough for this to be an actual problem if someone were to do a real tight bend on an edge. It would be user error but implementing functions that prevent user error is never bad i guess
A video like this is alone reason to put a manufacturer on your short shopping list, refreshingly open and agile!
You guys are so fricken hard working, hope you can take some time off soon!!! Happy holidays!!!
Thank you! We have some videos queued up while the team takes a break!
That cable routing looks pretty neat. I think that the ability to have velcro ties ontop of the metal bars and other cables run through the bars will be good for keeling different cables seperated. I'm interested in this case. If the thermals are good I may pick that up for my next upgrade.
I could see the metal bar route being great for dual routing cables for sure. Keep big cables you wont touch very often in the metal bar route (damn chonky 24 pin cables), and leave the velcro route nice and clean for cables that maybe you will be moving more often (3 and 4 pin cables). Maybe everyone won't get use out of it, but I'd love to see it personally.
Having it as dlc would be nice in theory, but I don't think it'd work price-wise or engineering-wise really. The tooling would still have to be there, and adding in those metal bars probably isn't much more expensive if you already have the tooling. Lian Li is free to find a solution that works for everyone though, if even possible.
Feedback for the galahad, I'd try using conventional aio fittings for the first radiator and quick disconnect fittings (connecting the gap between first and second radiator) fitted to predetermined tube lengths for generalized case sizes w/ a refill port/hole on second rad or a refill hole on both with maybe some way to check the liquid fill level. Also using quick disconnect fitting to bridge the gap between rad 1 and rad 2 also allows an opening for the diy masses to have some fun with hard lines I they preferred
Lian Li, in regards to the dual 360 AIO: perhaps you could make a kit that uses tubes with quick connect fittings to attach the second radiator to the first. The tubing could come in different lengths in the kit so that the customer could build a kit with the length of tubing their case needs to attach the two rads together.
Of course, I'm no engineer so this may be totally infeasible. Not sure if quick connect fittings would work or not. Anyway, love the video, GN, and the future product line-up, Lian Li.
Make all radiators with quick connect fittings and different quick connect tubes available, as well as different radiator sizes, that way they can quick connect the radiator in a daisy chain for many different build types
Feedback: Really like the adjustable cable routing brackets, having something that looks sturdy but can be moved as needed without a tie down is interesting and like how it can be horizontal or vertical mounted. For the duel radiator AIO the biggest concern is the same that you brought up is how many cases it will fit in. Because it is an AIO I do not know if there would be an easy way to have different tube lengths to help with that because that would just cause issues with cost and selection. The case looks fantastic, really interested in see how it comes together and a full review. Back to you Steve.
I love those modular cable brackets! It's a minor nit pick of mine, but I don't like being stuck w/how a case designer thinks my cables ought to be routed. With the rest of the crazy adjustability, it makes sense that routing be equally as flexible.
Wow I got good vibes from the CEO, seems very knowledgeable about his own products which is actually rare too see nowadays.
Love the idea of the linking rads and yes on the metal clips. Lian Li are doing some great work.
I love when companies are this open because you can tell that this is a passion-driven business instead of a bottom-line-driven one.
It's great to see a CEO that's knowledgeable about the products his company makes and is willing to take feedback. This might make me lean towards getting a Lian Li case next time I need a new one (I currently have a Fractal R6)
Thanks for letting Steve mess with your Hardware Lian Li! Super cool to see some of the products being developed.
Can't wait for the new EVO XL! Been a fan of Lian Li's creativity, design and high quality for years. The continued innovation is such a breath of fresh air. Improving rather than sitting on their laurels seems to be the Lian Li way. The cable management has been improving and it is really nice to have choices on which options to use while being able to remove almost everything if you like. I am a fan of the 'U' shaped cable routing options.👍
This case look exactly what I was looking for for last few months..please, when it will be released? Iam waiting for it. It looks absolutellly best. Thank you for your hard work guys..
For what it’s worth with the cable management brackets, I think it’s a really good idea, especially being able to flip them 90°. My only input would to maybe make them a little more low profile, or curve the edges to make them not as bulky. They seemed a little big.
I love the concept of those metal cable routing brackets, they'd especially come in handy for builds like mine that run push/pull on radiators. I have an unholy tangle of cables in that specific spot on my O11 XL and those sort of brackets would allow me to get it a bit more under control. If nothing else I'd like to see those brackets sold separately, I can understand not wanting to raise the price of the case itself.
The fan mount on the drive cages' sides are an amazing implementation imo.
Yeah, it is pretty sweet!
This looks like an amazing case to do a build in and easy access for future mods/upgrades as well as the ability to move things around a little bit to make it easier to reach parts when cleaning
If Lian-Li is listening, please consider offering the 2x360mm AIO also *without* the fans. People who would consider buying these most likely already have their own fans or would want different fans. Offering a no fan option would make this cost competitive against a custom-loop solutions.
Definitely … others make it more difficult to combine their products with other brands. Like NZXT. Bought the new Kraken Elite 360 v2 2024. They now have flat 8-pin fan connector … no option to directly link other fan brands. Especially as its tailored for their single frame 360 mm fan. Lian Li has the flat 7-pin plugs. But even the post controller regular fan plug does not fit any more. Means you need to improvise managing cpu cooling.
He’s so young for a CEO and makes a fantastic product! I am very happy that someone can achieve so much at such a young age! I absolutely love everything they make. I’m a fanboy. This is so awesome that he might read our comments.
Apparently his dad stepped down a few years back and Jameson took over. He didn't start Lian Li himself since I think the company was started before he was born assuming Jameson is younger than 39.
@@vigilant_1934 Yeah I was going to say Lian Li has been around for a while. They have always made good cases but were more reserved. Would make sense he took over, I think he's doing good work.
Gotta say, even though their cases are usually more than what I'll pay for case, they look amazing and actually care about what people say to them for upgrades! So many times that you get reviewers such as yourself give critiques of products and the companies just don't even bother as they almost copy and paste for their next generation. Lian Li seems to be one of a kind where they've been improving their cases every single time and generally not in really bad directions either! Keep up the great work Lian Li, you have a lot of great products!
I was on the same mindset, that a case shouldn't be that expensive no matter what it has. last year I got a O11D as a Christmas gift and it has been the best experience I had building. no cuts on my fingers and easiness to work. gotta say, the cases are really worth their price
I have always gone back to lian li after having disappointing experiences with other cases. I have had the pc-010, v2000, and now the o11. Hell I imported the v2000 from Taiwan directly when I was living in Korea. Always liked how they tried things differently while continuing to use effective mechanical designs and materials. Loved this.
That CEO it's a truly PC builder enthusiast grown into a leader of a company! Loved that.
This channel introduced me to LIAN LI case O11D XL and ever since has been my favorite case.
Jameson, I really like this design. It's a nice upgrade over the previous O11D XL. The cable management bar seems brilliant.
I'm always a fan of modularity in chassis designs. I don't think it would work for this design but Gosh do I like when I can have the motherboard inverted.
This is incredibly cool, love what Lian Li is doing for cases!
Love the new drive trays swinging open and closed, as well as the moveable motherboard tray. Well done Lian li!
Love Lian li cases. I don't know how they made the perfect case even better. The cable management bracket looks cool. I can imagine it being a little more finicky to install when populated with lots of cables but I'd have to try it myself. Maybe a compromise to get the best of both worlds would be to include another set of brackets with loops for cable ties/Velcro strips as well as the c bracket.
That dual radiator aio would work well with qc and different length hoses. Cost would go up obviously but would allow for more customization. It seems like you could just go custom loop at this point maybe there’s a market for it.
Love what I'm seeing there with that case. Even if the thermals were a wash compared to what we see now, this helps to address the issue of the GPUs getting bigger and bigger.
Lian Li is just on a completely different level atm. Everyone else is still playing catch up.
Same could be said of Gamers Nexus.
Thank you Jameson for taking the time to show GN around!
My current workstation build wound up being a Corsair-based build, partly because the O11 SKU I wanted was out of stock, and partly because I know I have 100% control over the Corsair under Linux … Wait, LEDs in a workstation? Yes! If one of my fans starts to have unstable tach readings, its LEDs light up a warning. If part of the case starts experiencing a hotspot, LEDs in that region light up a different warning. If I have a long process like compiling a huge codebase, rendering a long sequence, or even just ripping a blu-ray … other LEDs will light up to indicate task complete. And when they're not conveying useful information, they look cool. Since **NO** hardware maker documents their USB device's protocols it's all gotta be reverse engineered.
But I'm definitely interested in Lian-Li's upcoming case designs. Coolers and blinkenlights will depend on how fast they get reverse-engineered or if protocols info actually gets released by someone.
I absolutely love my O11 Dynamic evo with the SL Infinity fans and the lian li aio "All white build." They look amazing and function perfectly with great temps. I'll be a long-term lian li fan from now and on. It's worth every penny.
Would be super cool if Lian Li made an “Evo upgrade kit” or something like that.
What do you think it should include if they did?
@@GamersNexus I would vote for a new top panel and side panel with the Evo style mesh pattern. I could finally ditch the annoying air filters that get clogged with the old style slit openings.
@@GamersNexus definitely the ability to add the new IO side panel on the Evo lineup! My pc is mounted and it’s a pain to reach up to plug stuff in all the time
Man! It seems like Lian Li is doing some pretty cool things for PC mods! I cant wait to see some of the things showcased on the show today, on the market! I'm definitely curious to see the performance of that double 360 rad AIO. I also wonder if they plan on doing a double 240 rad setup. Or a double 280 rad setup. That would be cool if they are!
Big W for this video and you see why Lian Li is so successful. I've been super happy with their products and their warranties are great. Had my aio go out, and they replaced it within 2 weeks.
I love the metal cable routing guides. Actually, I am loving this case PERIOD. Just want a release date. Going to be building a high end system and I was considering using my Enthoo or maybe even my old Lian Li PC-80 Armorsuit. Now, I am going to wait on this gem.
I love Lian Li, I have the 011D in each size. What I would like to see, is a back cover to route the cabling down without having the cable sticking out of the back of the PC. Similar to the NV7. A lot of people, including myself, are putting high end water cooling components in the case, and would like to display their PC in their home. This would let us show it from all angles. Also, if possible, change the compatibility from three 420mm rads to three 480mm’s. I have a 4090 and 13900KS. The extra radiator surface area would help out a lot. A lot of people buying these type of cases are going for the high end components, which unfortunately produce a lot of heat especially in overclocking scenarios. Lian Li is in a league of its own when it comes to case design. These two changes would make literally the perfect PC case for the high-end enthusiast.
Really like the work Lian Li is doing. Useful, clean, mechanical, adjustable, functional... A+
The rear cable channel adjustments will improve ease of installation, its a good addition.
2 things... LOVE the DIY cable routing. Not everyone routes their cables the same way. It would be great if it was adjustable. I also really, really love the ability to add RGB to AIO fans. And you can do a whole 360 for the half the price of a RGB fan. That's awesome and great value...
no DVD-RW slot
vertical fans will clog it's bearing if they are
- fluid dynamic bearing
- positioned vertically
- being in a dusty environment
- not used for a while
there's a video of JayzTwoCents about that
Lian Li should sell that case with fans
and those fans should not be fluid dynamic bearing
hard disk slots are vertical and some hard disk models don't work vertically
Toshiba with red stickers, for example
P.S.: i like the Lian Li PC 60 model
I bought the lancool II for my sister's build and its a great case, easy to build in and great thermals. Lian Li makes cool stuff.
After watching this video it makes so much sense how much thoughtfulness was put into my Lancool III.
Thank you Jameson, for being so cool and allowing this unique look into your own very own living room (so to speak) to get a look of insights, ideas and actual future products! This is truly incredible and has elevated my love for this company even more!
Also, to answer Jameson's question, I personally do agree with the Channel Layout. It gets my thumbsup!
Edit: & of course, thank you Steve 😄.
That CEO at Lian Li seems incredibly professional. No wonder they make such incredible products.
Lian LI is really doing a great job of making attractive, fairly priced components.
Really appreciate Lian Li being so open and casual about showing off their stuff. I really wanted a O11 Mini for my recent build, but was kind-of forced into going with the Phanteks G500A because of the cooler and fans I had already gotten that the Mini unfortunately was just a bit too small for.
It's really exciting to see some actually thoughtful case innovation.
Lian LI! Embrace the 3d Printing Community! Upload some designs like the cable routes and hard mounts to be given to the community. This case is a maker's dream with the right support! I would 100% go this route for my next build if I had the option to design/print extra drive trays, color correct build accessories, and extra flair could easily be added in later. Make contests when this case launches to provide the best accessory they can design and give a free case away to draw up interest. As for that double AIO rad... sell cases with the AIO already attached, I'd consider it. Edit: Asking ChatGPT to elaborate on how 3d Printing could revolutionize this case if you open sourced a few aspects of it:
Incorporating 3D printing into the design of a PC case for the maker community can be a great way to add customization options and make the case more attractive to makers. Here are a few ways that 3D printing could be incorporated into a PC case design:
Customization options: 3D printing can be used to create custom panels, bezels, and other decorative elements for the case, allowing makers to customize the look of their PC to their own personal style.
Cable management: 3D printing can be used to create custom cable routing channels and tie-down points, which can help to keep cables organized and improve the overall appearance of the PC build.
Ease of access: 3D printing can be used to create custom panels or brackets that make it easier to access and work on the components inside the case.
Functionality: 3D printing can be used to create custom brackets or mounting points for additional fans or other components, allowing makers to improve the functionality of their PC build.
Aesthetics: 3D printing can be used to create unique and intricate designs for the case, adding a personal touch and making the case stand out from others on the market.
Overall, incorporating 3D printing into the design of a PC case can help to make it more customizable, functional, and aesthetically pleasing for the maker community.
If Lian Li included those dual radiator coolers pre-installed on some cases, that'd be nice. I think compatibility with other cases might be a bit too hit or miss for it to be viable on its own
Man that is how you stand behind your products as a ceo I absolutely want this case
It looks like the back of the case has screw mount holes for a 2nd PSU at the top but the grill needs to be removable. A case that big should be able to fit dual PSU's for extreme builds, or if space is a concern, a pair of 1000W SFX power supplies.
Very, very cool video. The add- on RGB plates for the 'regular' fans is a great idea to keep the aesthetics of a build looking similar all around. Thank you Jameson & the GN team!
Can we get a release date on the PC-O11 EVO XL?? We are getting desperate...
I've always wanted a Lian Li case but they're so pricey. I can definitely see you get what you pay for though, so much cool stuff happening under the brand.
What I love about modern information era, is *how freakin cool it is* that "regular Joes" like Steve _(basically people, which you can easily relate to)_ can go about and make very high quality product documentaries such as this one, with big companies like Lian Li. In the past, big companies would seem like faceless beasts, but what these types of videos show, is that there are actual cool people behind these companies, and that makes these companies appear way more aproachable, trustworthy and even "humane". I just find it very cool, that's all. Have a great day.
Cable management bars came in handy. Great case, TONS of flexibility!
I have a white Lancool 2 case and i love this thing, currently running 11 case fans in it, 360 rad in front in push pull config as intake, 2 intakes directly under my GPU, and 2 too and 1 rear exhaust fans, all Corsair SP120 RGB Elite fans that have the 7 vanes as the motor support, thermals and dust are flawless