Quick Hip Impingement Test - FADIR Test (aka FAI)
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- The most common hip impingement test is the FADIR Test, named for the three movements it examines - Flexion, ADduction, and Internal Rotation.
Watch this video to learn how to perform this test yourself (it’ll take you just a couple of minutes to do).
If you test positive on the FADIR, it’s considered a strong sign of hip impingement.
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This is amazing, thank you so much & it's helping immediately. Love the teaching & 5 day challenge. Solutions to this hip issue at last!!
You are welcome!
i have no pinging or pain when doing this test, but i have basically zero internal rotation mobility lol. i have to work on that
Thank you, Eric!
My pleasure!
Wow! Fantastic! I’m an avid tennis player and have be battling bilateral hip pain on & off for a year. Resting didn’t seem the help! I finally found some beneficial hip strengthening exercises! Thx!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for publishing your experience and know how about this issue !
The test you show in this video has been positiv on me almost my whole life (i know it since my 20es), and sometimes i felt pain by walking or in the yoga childs position for example ...
The one or the other doctor made the test and it has always been horribly painful.
So i know since years, something isn't right with my hips. But i lived with it ... and i could do almost every sport (ballet, swimming, hiking, yoga...).
With good times for my hips, so i can really forget it, and sometimes bad periods. In those times i had pain by walking or if i lift my knee to put shoes on etc.
I love, love streching, but infortunately, every kind of streching involving the hips made the issue worse.
Just one time, in a period, as it was a little bit mor painful (i was in my 40es) i had an MRT and the doctor said only, the labrum seems a little bit swollen. And i knew, labrum issues are the annoncement of future hip osteoarthritis...
But it was then better for a time and i didn't need any treatment. (I didn't have time fpr sports anymore in the last 10 years.
Well, a year ago (i'm school teacher ans 57 now) i wanted to do a short warm up with the kids and ... i couldn't show, how it goes ! It was IMPOSSIBLE to bring my knee close to my shoulder or even only in the right direction.
I never had it before.
And now, a year later (it gone worse since the lock down, so nothing to do with wrong moves), i feel often pain in the night as well ... and i must concentrate my self very strong, when i go on my bicycle... my knee has to be perfectly straight, when it "looks" towards the middle, i shout out !
I'm very scared to go to the doctor, because i'm afraid, he will say i have osteoarthritis in my hips !
In the same time, i'm surprise, how i probably lives over 30 years with an hip inpingment without major issues.
I didn't see your other videos but i will try to reduce my inpingment with your exercices and tips and see...
Thanks for following along.
How are you doing? Did you go to doctor?
I fail the FADIR test on my left leg. I get the same pain there with high bar squats. I read your article and I'm gonna try the exercises you suggest.
Captain Jack Aubrey of the Royal Navy hi I can't find the link to the article, could you please share?
How did it go?
I have pain/pinching when doing external rotation, would be great to hear back about some treatment or even diagnosis for this. I can't find anything so far but I'll keep looking.
How did the exercises in the video go? Also check this out: www.precisionmovement.coach/5dhmc/
thanks!
You are welcome!
When I do the test I have pain on my hip maybe my it band.i did a labrum hip tear about 4 years ago still I am in pain.
Start here: www.precisionmovement.coach/femoral-acetabular-impingement/
Hi would pigeon pose help with this as well? Thanks. Love your channel
Potentially. Start with this material first: www.precisionmovement.coach/femoral-acetabular-impingement/
Can the pain of hip impingement cause one to have waist pain as well? My hip hurts, but I have pain deep into my waist area like a dull ache and stinging/ burning sensation.
The two issues can be related. This article can help you with the pinching: www.precisionmovement.coach/femoral-acetabular-impingement/
...and this video can help you out with the deeper sensation, which sound like it could be your SI joint: th-cam.com/video/jz4dDv1nqyk/w-d-xo.html
Is it common sign of hip impingment : Inhibited Gluteus max. and medius ?
It could be but there are many contributing factors. Check out this article: www.precisionmovement.coach/femoral-acetabular-impingement/
I tried doing this but there’s more pain in my back than in front of my hip. Is that still a symptom of hip fai?
It could be how your pelvis is tilting during the exercise. Can you figure out if your pelvis is tilting forward or backwards when you are doing the exerse?
Right now I’m currently serving in the military with a Marine infantry unit. If anyone knows anything about Marine infantry, you’ll know the extreme physical stress put on your body (Example: Ruck runs, constantly having a flak on you, hiking for sometimes 12+ miles with sometimes over 100 lbs on your body, etc etc.) which overtime kills your back, hips, and joints overall obviously. I have FAI and plan on getting out and putting in an application with Law Enforcement. My question I guess is... with FAI, can you still be successful with physically demanding jobs if it’s taken care of properly?
Of course you can! An important thing that anyone with a physically demanding job can do is to develop and practice an appropriate preventative maintenance routine. Another important thing that people like yourself can do is to mitigate the effects of the activities/postures that you are performing by tuning in to the feedback that you body is giving you, develop a tool-kit of movement strategies that can prevent overuse, and rest as much as possible. Nutrition and sleep are also important and should not be ignored. You must do your best to balance all of these things along with the tasks you have to perform.
What do you think the cause will be if after my basketball game I had pain when doing this but a couple days after I didn’t? After my game I only had pain on internal rotation
It is likely a combination of fatigue and an indication that you are over/underusing particular muscles during your game.
Follow the recommendations in the video and get started on the material in this min-program: www.precisionmovement.coach/5dhmc/
It's a good idea to start addressing any imbalances/compensation patterns that exist in your body so that you can keep playing basketball for life.
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
hmm i think this it isnt the pinching feeling, but my tensor fasciae latae hurts and crumps during this movement :/
I'm sorry to read about your pain. This article is for you: www.precisionmovement.coach/tensor-fasciae-latae-pain-techniques/
Thank you Eric! My hip MRI Arthrogram w/ contrast report says "“no femoroacetablular impingement related anatomy or acetabular dysplasia" BUT I feel this pain, I've had it since 11/2018, nothing is making it go away so far, stem cell injections were done on 2/12/2019, PT does not seem to be working either. :-(
Sign up for this free mini-course and let me know how it goes: www.precisionmovement.coach/5dhmc/
How are you feeling? Any luck with stems
@@krissieitniearzitka3687 yes, they have decreased the pain, it's a very slow process but there is improvement. The pain used to wake me up at night, but now it does not, I am also walking further with a pain of about 2 out of 10 afterwards, before I could not walk very far. My hip MD said it would be 3 months to see a difference, that will be around 05/12/2019, another medical website I read said it takes 6 months for full effect.
That's great news!! Prayers and positive thoughts from me.. any relief is good. I'm desperate to find the right type of Dr to help me fix my body! I don't have stomach muscles, I have a 13 inche scar that has pulled my spine, hips, pelvis since birth and living me in very bad condition.
@@krissieitniearzitka3687 So sorry to hear this. God bless you! I hope you are not in too much pain. I know that some plastic surgeons can revisit scars to make them better, but it sounds like if you had this surgery since birth, your body "grew around" the scar? Is that what you think? I would not even know who to recommend to help fix that. Have you been to other MDs before for this problem? Maybe a good orthopedic doctor might be able to give you a recommendation. Stem cells regrow tissue or help to repair tissues. Here's a good website describing these, stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics.htm Not sure if this would help you, but just in case you are curious.
Regarding the recommended 3 techniques, how many reps and how often one should do them?
You can do them daily. Set a timer for 30 seconds and so as many controlled reps as you can in that time. 3 sets should suffice.
@@PrecisionMovementCoach wow thanks for the immediate reply :) I started doing the exercises today and you explain them detailed and even quite fun :)
hello every one . before ai got this illness , never I Heard about Cam Impingement . 5 month just I went so many doctors , and finally a Professor in Ankara he said my problem is Impingement . before that all doctors said its L4 and L5 Lumbar problem. even now am not sure its impingement pain or lumbar . my special question is my buttocks muscular melt and shrieked. is that normal in L4 and L5 , and or impingement disease? who knows about that
Did you try out the material in the video?
I passed the test but I have pan when lifting my leg to put shoes on and lifting knee up while sitting. I've had this for 9-10 months now. What could this be?
Where is the pain?
The pain is in the very front of my groin
Check out these articles: www.precisionmovement.coach/adductor-strain/ and www.precisionmovement.coach/femoral-acetabular-impingement/
Hi , I liked your video . I tried to reach your site and it says FORBIDDEN. I have pain on the side of my hip -- maybe It's a bursitis ? It hurts to stand up and also in bed when I make an extension . I would be happy to learn more from you . Thanks.
Thanks for following along. Try this link: www.precisionmovement.coach/tensor-fasciae-latae-pain-techniques/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach thank you ,I need to try the page from my desktop . From my phone I have the same Forbidden 403 :). It says also that the server where your site is ..so probably the server denies my connection .I apologise also for the gramatical mistakes from my first post , I edited it now . Appreciate your promt answer
Please try from another device, on another network, or using a private window. It's possible that your security settings are blocking the page.
on your 3 techniques article on FAI, the deadbug with IR is pretty similar to the FADIR test, which is provocative and tests for FAI therefore why is the deadbug with IR a good exercise if it's likely to cause pain and problems? Surely it's the worst exercise to do? The other 2 exercises from the article are great but just wanted to ask your reasoning or if I'm being a fool? Thanks
They are similar movements but can you think about how the deadbug with IR is different from the FADIR test and how those differences may assist to resolve the issue?
@Precision Movement by Eric Wong Ones active, other is passive? - Am I right pls?
You are on the right track...now consider the "active" parts of the dead bug and how they might help to resolve the "passive" issues uncovered in the test.
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Oh is it because it improves centration as the deep hip rotators are active at 90 degrees flexion with IR? - Pls confirm if correct, feels like educated guessing for me!
You got it :)
Hey Eric I had an arthroscopic surgery to shave my right hip joint to fit the socket but nothing done to my left. So when I did this exercise with my left I felt the pinch but the pain was bare to minimal. Was this the case for you and how you were able to free up space in the joint and develop range of motions and less pinching?
My case was similar and I kept up these and similar exercises to promote proper joint capsule structure and function. How long have you been working on these exercises?
Precision Movement by Eric Wong I haven’t done any but the pinching pain is bare to minimal. Though I am positive it’s pinching. I haven’t done a single exercise yet.
Precision Movement by Eric Wong my question is after your experience, do you still the pinching at all? Pain is no issue to me because I barely feel any.
Try out the exercises and get back to me. They should clear up the pinching.
what if you can’t tell? it feels tight/tendor but I don’t have a pinch really
It could be a minor pinch. Check out this article just in case: www.precisionmovement.coach/femoral-acetabular-impingement/
Bro im 14 and i started having this problem after shooting a hard soccer ball what do i do?
Yikes...Check out the resources in the video description ASAP. - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Positive test and now i felt where the pain is coming from the outside of my hip theres a ball it hurts
Thanks for trying that out.
Make sure to check out the resources in the video description :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
I get hip pain on my right side from standing for a long time. What doctor do I see?
Skip the doctor's visit and try moving around more. For example, figure out how long you can stand in a certain posture before you experience pain and then shift postures BEFORE you get close to that point.
Precision Movement by Eric Wong Thank you doctor. I'm Martial artists/Wrestler been trying to get back into training but the pain in my right hip/flexors has been killing me.
Check this out: www.precisionmovement.coach/moves-to-do-when-sitting/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Great ideas, all my life I have worked at a "desk job" now health experts are saying that "Sitting is the new smoking" I can see why. I am very petite, 4' 11" so no public or "normal" chairs, sofas, etc. are designed for people this short (also very short legs and arms) so .... I think this causes extra strain on our hip joints. I always have to sit at the VERY EDGE of a chair for my arms to reach my desk or a table.
A MDT Physical Therapist
This test isn't positive, my internal rotators do cramp hard and maybe a slight pinching.
Could this still be the potential cause of my hip pinching when I walk?
Cramping indicates that the internal rotators are weak and the slight pinching indicates a possible root cause of your issue. Check out this mini-program for more assessments and solution ideas: www.precisionmovement.coach/5dhmc/ - Coach Joshua, Team PMC
@@PrecisionMovementCoach thank you so much!!!
@@PrecisionMovementCoach working on day 3 1 leg flexion and knee extension, and I feel something slight in my lower back maybe glute area. Not pain more like muscle working. Normal? I am making sure my spine doesn't flex or extend
Try out the exercises from this article: www.precisionmovement.coach/3-si-joint-stretches/ - Coach Joshua, Team PM
So you are saying that not only that kind of hip impingement that you showed a test for, but any other kinds can be treated?
Yup.
Can I know what kind I have. I can't cross one leg over the other like they do in what's called the cow face pose. I can't even get the second foot over the first knee without getting sharp pinching pain in groin area.
That’s a tricky one. Did the FAI exercises help?
To clarify, I feel pinching pain also when flexing, externally rotate and extending the lumbar spine (also when trying to straighten the spine in cross-legged sitting position). I will try these exercises and reply here.
HI i am 22 and my right hip front bone sticks out more then left (does this mean i have tilted pelvis) and i have pain in my acetabulum area, and pain on the side aswell, one day i was getting out of my car as i took right leg out and put weight on it to get out i felt such a sharp pain that went down to right outside knee and from the bum cheek right down the back of leg i had to sit back down it was unbearable, and for a week i got this pain whenever i did things like getting up from seats etc it was like a electric shock pain, now that pain is mainly gone but the knee inside always hurts and the acetabulum area and right side of hip as mentioned above still hurts feels worn out type. so do i have both hip infringement and tilted pelvis please help what can this be?
Ok...there's a lot going on there. Did you try out the exercises in the video to test for impingement? Check out this article to better understand in which way your pelvis is oriented: www.precisionmovement.coach/how-to-fix-pelvic-tilt/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach first of all thank you for responding back really means alot. Also sorry for taking a while to reply back. Yes I do get the pinch in my right hip area as you showed in the video. It took me a while to respond back because honestly I can't tell which way it's tilted. I think it's lateral where right side is more higher then left. Can this be causing the pain behind my right knee. Also I can tell when when I'm standing straight both feet parallel the right leg feels like it's more backwards and knee area is drawing inwards or so. Could this be a sign of the lateral pelvis tilt? But there was an article I read about yours where it described your driving and you suddenly get out of the car and feel the pain. That is exactly what I felt and went through before. So to conclude i have the hip infringement since I felt the pinch, as for the which way tilted I am still really figuring it out but I think it's lateral. I have looked in mirror and I am always confused whether it's normal or one of the three.
I was thinking of starting jogging etc but behind the knee feels like I'm over exerting when straightening so not sure if I should jog or not.
Can you help?
Is it possible that I actually have a hernia?
Yes. Get checked out if you think that could be the case.
What if i get a pinch at the back of my hip?
Hmmmm...this article might be more appropriate: www.precisionmovement.coach/piriformis-syndrome-stretches-sciatica/ - Coach Joshua, Team PM
@@PrecisionMovementCoach thank you !! I really appreciate your help
Joint mobility especially hip mobility has a much better corelation with athletic performance than strength!
Most strength coaches won't accept this fact.
Too true.
I feel outer pinch
Tell me more.