Repaired many consoles having this kind of issue. Mostly 3000 series the wifi/bt module needs replacement together with the chip step down converter. Once you replaced the chip and module, you can add a 2.0v zener diode shunted at the output to protect the module in the event the chip failed again.
Have the same issue.. if I buy a replacement ps3 I mean a used one on the marked which one would you recommend? I mean which series and model , slim or ultra slim and 3000 or other?
I just picked up a PS3 on the ole 'bay with no power... I'm hoping it's something like this that will get me going with a cheap bluray player for under $20. Solid fix, Vince, as always! Thanks for all the hours of fixes and learning you've provided!
yip the chip has two wires connected to it - wifi and bluetooth. He could use a controller with a usb dongle for wireless. Also the internet browser works without firmware update. I've got 3 consoles like this.
also he doesent know how to properly check for shorts ,there are discharge resistors and of chors its shorted cuz probably has another conection to ground
Nice fix Vince. Just a tip when troubleshooting by removing SMD components like resistors and capacitors, it's usually easier to just rotate the components 90 or 180 degrees so only one pad is connected. That way you take them out of circuit but they're still anchored to the PCB so you don't lose them or forget where they are from
Thanks for this tip. I am now using it (as of my last video) and it is really helpful. Saves worrying about orientation on diodes and makes testing caps etc. much easier. Really useful, thanks for sharing it :-)
It most likely has a crowbar circuit which causes the pwr supply to shut down when a fault is detected. Disconnecting the main source for a period of time, long enough to reset the crowbar circuit. It a protection circuit.
Found your channel around the start of quarentine and wow, ive watched at least 2 videos a day and sometimes more like 5 and im still working through tha back catalogue. Love your vids a ton, keep putting them out!
Most advanced power supplies these days have protection circuits that can detect over current, over voltage and short circuits as well as thermal cutoff. If something is shorting out the power supply it will activate the protection circuit and turn itself off. When you unplug it from the shorted board it will remain off until you remove all the power from the PSU (and let time for the caps to drain). Than it will turn on again. If it's a thermal fuse you will have to wait until it cools down.
I've had a broken system for a while now and took it to pieces to use the power button (DSW-001) as a jumper for my pc when its not in a case. More than happy to send you the wifi module mate.
You really should take the watch off when working on mains appliances. I was working in a comercial 3com network switch and had to do some live diagnosis with it plugged in, and I was wearing my metal apple watch band. I rest my hand on a live heatsink accidentally, and i got a shock straight through my rist. Lucky that I only used one hand and not both.
Nope. It will output an error (ending up on a loop, like he said on the video). It won't brick your console. Where do you got that from? Your might had other problem cause with NO BT/WIFI you won't get a brick by trying to update the official firmware! Now some CFW's (custom firmwares) can brick your console. It's reparable if you have a backup of your NOR.
@@Falcon_Indestro So, updating with a usb will certainly fail, and cause a boot loop, of sorts? I would have thought it was definitely the way to go....
That wi-fi chip also has a bluetooth antenna, if you look at the board theres 2 antenna slots, one for connecting an external wifi antenna and another for an external bluetooth antenna...
by the way vince, if you read this again by any chance, then there's a No Wi-Fi/No Bluetooth Jailbreak firmware out for the PS3 if you want to install it now, check it out here www.psx-place.com/threads/modified-rebug-4-86-1-lite-for-broken-ps3-nobt-nobd-rsod.28922/
I think you need to start experimenting by using your power supply to diagnose shorts. Low Voltage/ High current injection into the PCB will manifest itself as extreme heat and you can pinpoint the component with the short very easily. Freeze spray or Lighter petrol are good for observing the heat if you haven't got an IR camera.
The Dualshock 3 controllers require an intelligent host to charge. They will not charge from a typical USB phone charger. They will charge from a PC, and other 'intelligent' devices but the data send and data receive pins on the cable must be present. I think I may have mentioned this in the past.
This video gave new life to my PS3! I use it as a blue ray player in my semi truck and had the exact problem you described. If this video wasn't so detailed I never would have gone at the brain of this thing with a soldering iron. Thank you!
@@Waris-nd2dr When you plug it in does the red light come on showing it's getting power? If it doesn't then the solution in this video is the fix for it. It's a faulty chip installed by Sony and removing the components shown here fixes it. Just understand that this could destroy your PS3. My thoughts were it didn't work currently they worst I could do is make it still not work.
Another awesome video =D Anyone who says you didn't fix it is missing the point that the motherboard was shutting off the PSU - it was completely dead, now its useable!!! Maybe one day when you get a scrap unit you might be able to re-visit the Wifi =D
You're a delight to watch mate. But be more careful when handling the ac psu, you got capacitors that might unload if you manage to short it shortly after disconnecting the plug!
The WiFi card ic would take very long to arrive , and there's still a chance that it could just get fried instantly still, as well as the fact the WiFi card uses a ball grid array which is very hard to replace correctly. Just saying...
@@televisionandcheese it's BGA but very wide spread one, easy to replace. You can see it in old Vince video. Is time to arrive factor in so old console repair....maybe. But one can probably emulate all his PS3 games on PC used to google for repair solution in a meantime :D
The WiFi and Bluetooth are integrated into the same module. I believe the controller does not sync up when wireless because Bluetooth isn't working. Pretty sure it would work once the module along with those faulty components are replaced. :)
there have been 9 firmware updates since that one was last updated www.xtremeps3.com/firmware-history/ just in case anyone was wondering. It is impressive to me how many years they have supported the ps3 with stability updates and minor fixes we are looking at 13 and a half years at this point.
The power supply appears to have a protection circuit which samples the current draw when it is powered and switches the power supply off when it see's an over current. This happens faster than your meter can detect. When you power it with the power supply disconnected it doesn't see an over current and switches the power supply on. You still have the voltage when you connect it since its already done its check and switched the power supply on. Sometimes if you unplug and plug the mains fast enough the power supply hasn't discharged and therefore remains in the state that it was in before you unplugged.
It's useful not to unsolder component completely during debugging, but just shift it and leave one pin soldered. May prevent some mistakes or component loss later.
There is a short on the board tripping the protection of the PSU. That is all it is. If the PSU didnt shut its self down as a safety precaution then there is a risk of a fire. Think of it like a circuit breaker. Same idea as what is going on in the PSU when a short occurs.
Nothing magical about the PSU that causes a shutdown. There exists a well-known component that prevents the board from carrying an unwanted short or high current: a fuse.
Hi, Vince. I was wondering that there is a cover on the wifi chip if I remembered it right from the last video. How about taking off the cover and cheching what is wrong inside. I think it will be much easier to switch components inside the cover since the main chip is not a bga one. In this way, there will be no need to mess around with the bga stuff.
I get around the 'charging cable' vs 'data cable' by only having data cables :) Not one of the 30 or so USB cables I have is a 'charging only' cable. Funny thing is, prior to you saying there was a difference, I didn't even realise there was 2 cables, i'm still not convinced (at least here in Australia) that there is 2 separated ones.
I have a draw which i keep all my "good" cables in In that draw, i currently have: 3 USB A to Micro B Cables 2 USB A to Mini B Cables 3 USB A to Lightning Cables (i dont have any cables with a USB type C connector at the moment) I did at one point have a few "power only" cables, but those sorts of cables get labled as "defective" just so i dont get confused and i also have 2 cables which i used to class as "good" cables but they now wear a "defective" label
Hi Vince, yes, usually wifi and bluetooth are done in the same module, since they are the same frequency, they can have a single chip for both, and same antena
Hey Vince, liked the video! I also had the same problem as yours. I had a PS3 Slim 3012A Model, It didnt have no lights like yours. I got mine repaired like late 2018. If i remebered correctly, The technician soildered two wires in the places where that black square looking chip would be. My PS3 doesent have a hard drive, and we bought a new hard drive, and we go to update it, it checked the components therefore it was updated. I can't really remember because it was years ago. Fast foward to now, i sold it back in 2020 because of i want to trade it for a PC.
Sadly the CECH-3000 models can't be fully hacked and I am not sure if HEN actually checks for missing components (I have not really looked into that, because I have two fully hackable slims). For the earlier models (2000, 2500) there is a custom firmware that works for consoles with missing drives, might work for consoles with other missing parts too.
Remarkable recover, why it seemed like just earlier today you were utterly and completely voiceless, and WOW! here you are now like as if you never lost your voice.. APU I dropped a like oh and yo duh Man!..
Great video Vince my 6 year old son loves watching your videos and now tells me how to connect his games consoles to different tv's he loves your switch videos
Good work. I love that your just a regular guy having a go and learning from it I think that’s the best way of learning being thrown in the deep end and working it out for yourself. Thanks for all the info keep up the good work I’m mid modding a sim ps2 and original Xbox good times.
I downloaded a lot of game patches on my PS3 when they threatened to pull the store, then my controllers stopped working wirelessly, then the PS3 died completely with no power LED. Replaced the PSU with no improvement. It was the wireless and bluetooth stuff!! All makes sense now. Great vid and comment section.
I didn't have a heat gun and did a hack job desoldering these components but it worked!! Took the wifi card short off the power supply load and PS3 resumed working! This video is only place I've seen this issue discussed and it rescued my favorite console! Thanks!!
Thank you so much for your videos. I just bought a cheap ps3 super slim and your diagnosis with the controller is exactly my issue. Now I know there is an fix. THANKS SO MUCH!.
If you have another PS3 just take the hard drive and put it inside that one, then just update it from that way, once it’s done just put it back into that console. It would work and it doesn’t update much so you won’t have to do it often :)
He Vince (nice vid as always)... In our language we call that part (28:00) "kurvitko" (which has nothing to do with w*ores, the best YT friendly translation would be "fail generator") which means it's a part that's designed to make a device fail after certain amount of time - which is most likely few days after warranty expires. And the more hidden or silly the better. It exist only so the customer have to buy a new product every set of time instead of having a device that lasts 10+ years.
It's called "Planned obsolescence" , it's a common "feature" for productors of many electronic devices. Apple and Samsung were already been fined here in Italy for that same "feature".
maybe if it is a 2000-2501 ps3 you could use a e3 flasher and jailbreak it and then install the no blue ray cfw and see if that would also work for no wifi chip problem
Love your videos and I have been a subscriber for awhile. I'm probably in the minority on this, but I would prefer a more edited shorter video. 25 minutes at the longest. Just some feedback. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way. I'll still watch none the less.
Jailbreak it with hfw or custom firmware also check the wifi chip this time dont destroy it completely just take off the emi sheild and look at the 8 pin chip to see if that is causing the short or other caps
If this a 3000 Model there is no way he could because you need would need to update it to 4.84 I believe for HAN but if it’s a older slim you could user a flasher but I don’t know how well it would work and it’s not cheap, only if it had CFW, you could just edit the new update to skip the modem/WiFi check kinda like if you had a missing blu-ray drive and blu-ray board
@@momfiethehunter504 Did you watch the video? Vince can't go forward coz updating the firmware will brick PS3. You can't update neither over Ethernet nor from flashdrive. So its stuck being 4.5 till wi-fi module is replaced
@@DXcool223 Failoverflow cfw have the option to bypass the wifi/bt option only if the ps3 is lower than 2000 series not too sure of the 3000 and up unless he end up modifying the ofw to bypass the wifi/bt but i suppose he can find the replacement chip for it first
It looks like that bigger rectangular pad has a little bit of rust or corrosion on its top right corner (25:24) then pause) You can see the little brown triangle in that corner
No, wont work. Once I succed to install a new firmware with a old Bluetooth usb module v1.2 (under 4.60, I dont really remember) but it wont work for new firmware, sadly...
Glad to see the past experience made it a lot easier to troubleshoot. Great Vid! Keep it up! Also; If you have a spare hard drive and want to test the updating, you could probably use the ps3's backup utility to basically clone this current hard drive so that in case the update fails, you can still have the ps3 working as it is currently. As a precaution, you could also test if the back up works on the new "cloned" drive before doing anything else. Note; Not sure if this will work as if the ps3 is like the ps4, where the firmware is more hardware level, doing this may cause you to get stuck in that update loop even with the "clone" drive
No joke I have this exact model Vince and I am currently trying a fix I have just got a cheap multimeter I may have to check this but mine turns on and then straight off but may be related to WiFi card also for sure not YLOD that’s a fact
Momfie The hunter 100% not man already done a reflow to see if this was the case same situation I’ve had this on another unit also which turned out to be a bad capacitor amongst the power rail I’ll keep digging that’s for sure 👍
GM Kof hard I have the same with my PS3 red light comes for a few seconds then goes out. Forcing the fan to come on is the same will power on for a few seconds then shuts down. I tried another psu with higher current rating and that seems to work. Put the old psu in the other PS3 and it works ok. Will have to check around the wifi chip and see if it's shorting
I must say, that new intro music suits you down to the ground. I'm half presuming you took my advice on using a different editing software? Movie Maker is no good for anything anymore.
Excellent fix Vince! I love your videos on these complicated consoles like the switch Xbox ps3 etc , they're usually avoided by most people as they're rather daunting to work on , while you just go straight in, and most of the time get them working !! You are right about not really needing to update too , PS3 online isn't going to be around for long, and what most people do with PS3s is downgrade them to Version 3.55 which let's you run any game , and allows for lots of modding and homebrew and such. So the fact you can't update really shouldn't be a problem at all, I'd say this is a great fix ! Well done
One thought is that the WiFi chips regulator ic , the thing that was making the pulse which killed the WiFi chip , what if you replaced just that ? If you replace the whole WiFi chip but not the ic , then the ic will kill the WiFi, But if you replace the ic but not the WiFi, the new IC should be unharmed, and there's a chance the original WiFi chip may still work ?
PS3 remembers the last installed harddrive. If you try to install a new one and it is unsuccessful, you can reinstall the hdd that was working and go to recovery. Choose rebuild database and the original hdd content will appear unaffected by the second hdd you tried to install. Just dont try a third hdd before popping in the original working one or you are sol.
Watch a MyMate Vince video or finish Xenoblad Chronicles? Hmmm... yeah, I'll stick the game on pause and start watching :) Looking forward to finding out what the problem with this one is.
would be really cool to see you put an item togther from buying all part seperatly "ish" would be cool to see how the prices differst to from puting it together or when buying it as an finised item
Hello Vince, I know this is old video but, i want to tell you that you dont need to change whole wifi bt module, actualy you can replace only marvel chip and voltage regulator, marvel chip on cech 30xx is same as cech25xx model of ps3. So if you have one broken 25xx console you can swap marvel chip from that console to 30xx. Sorry if my english is bad. Wish you the best, i enyoy your videos... Cheers mate 🙂
If you are thinking of trying to plug in the hard drive in another ps3 to update the software, it will not boot up, because when you install the ps3 software on a hard drive that hard drive is then tied to the system itself.
PlayStation 3 CECH-2504B playing games but controller and wifi not working LOL. I can play games connected to USB and with ethernet! I'm tring for a solution too! Nice work!
I have the same PS3 Slim CECH-3003A model with the same wifi issue. Ethernet and a long wired cable for the controller is what i get away with. Got it cheap on ebay, luckily it has the 4.86 firmware on mine. Even putting a larger hard drive in it will need the software re-installed which will cause the brick problem. Which is a shame, because i have loads of larger sized hard drives laying around.
If you ever decide to homebrew it then look for PS3 HEN by Joonie and the PS3Xploit team. I'm not sure if you'll be able to get the firmware up to that point though without the wifi being enabled else you'll end up in the dreaded update loop! Unless there's a way to bypass those checks with the HEN then you'll only be able to play games up to 2013 on it until you can get it updated.
it would be amazing to see the wifi card fixed but is a vga chip and thats harder than a normal chip unfortunatelly... I am looking forward to see a revisit video when you have a joblot of ps3 slims :)
Now you'll need to fix the one from 2 years ago and this one since they have the exact same issue :) Lucky me... I'm still waiting for a positive fix on this type of issue :D
That was fascinating. I wonder is a USB combo WiFi/ Bluetooth USB adapter would work? I got three for $20 on ebay and they work great on a PC. A while ago I got a lot of wifi cards for differnt types of devices (12 I think) for about $7, I'll try and match them up on my own PS3 Slim and let you know.
There is a CFW nobt firmware that can bypass this issue but only on support ps3 slims that take cfw firmwares. Otherwise you will need to replace the wifi/bt module im afraid!
Vince try updating the hard drive in a working ps3 then put it back in it should just work fine with that any hard drive formatted to a ps3 will always be read by another
Hey Vince hope you are doing okay I think that TH-cam algorithm is killing your channel because look at the views and subscriber.... I believe that you should put more 10min video according to the new youtube strategy algorithm ..... Hope you will find this interresting. Love u..
I broke my board attempting a delid, the only replacements I can find online are ones that have no power like this PS3 did. Are the odds quite high that they've got this same fault? I don't use wifi so I'd be fine with removing a couple SMDs as a permanent "fix" lol. Or I could donate the wifi parts from my previously working board.
Hello, greetings from Bulgaria, Vince I have super slim model and when i click the power button it beeps once and the green light comes then turns everything off, if i press the power button again it comes red light. No startup, no nothing...What to do?
i have similar issue, i have a short in the stand by line, 5 V, I have it in the power supply but not when I connect all, how can i know if it is the memory wifi or regulator Mitsumi 463A?
Possibly ... but usually low experience players cannot notice lag. High experience players who notice lag are usually good because of the time they've spent playing.
Lets be fair now.. Console plebs all play with MASSIVE input lag and never notice. whats an extra 5-10ms matter to them. And if you say you cant notice input lag, just go and download VLC media player and offset the audio by 5ms at a time. then tell me you dont notice minute differences like 5-15ms.. if you play mario on an emulator and a real snes and dont notice the difference between them, then you will be fine with probably up to 50ms of input delay. The rest of us really cannot deal with that.
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Repaired many consoles having this kind of issue. Mostly 3000 series the wifi/bt module needs replacement together with the chip step down converter. Once you replaced the chip and module, you can add a 2.0v zener diode shunted at the output to protect the module in the event the chip failed again.
Damn, maybe mine needs this but i think that repair is beyond me. New power supply didnt work anyway.
can u guide me i have error code 8002f1f9
Have the same issue.. if I buy a replacement ps3 I mean a used one on the marked which one would you recommend? I mean which series and model , slim or ultra slim and 3000 or other?
I just picked up a PS3 on the ole 'bay with no power... I'm hoping it's something like this that will get me going with a cheap bluray player for under $20. Solid fix, Vince, as always! Thanks for all the hours of fixes and learning you've provided!
screaming at screen, Vince. wifi is also a Bluetooth (controller) combo chip...
yip the chip has two wires connected to it - wifi and bluetooth. He could use a controller with a usb dongle for wireless. Also the internet browser works without firmware update. I've got 3 consoles like this.
also he doesent know how to properly check for shorts ,there are discharge resistors and of chors its shorted cuz probably has another conection to ground
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Nice fix Vince. Just a tip when troubleshooting by removing SMD components like resistors and capacitors, it's usually easier to just rotate the components 90 or 180 degrees so only one pad is connected. That way you take them out of circuit but they're still anchored to the PCB so you don't lose them or forget where they are from
Thanks for this tip. I am now using it (as of my last video) and it is really helpful. Saves worrying about orientation on diodes and makes testing caps etc. much easier. Really useful, thanks for sharing it :-)
But the trackwill cut in some cases
People didn't like the loud beeping of the multimeter? Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who knows how that volume knob on their speakers work.
I do not wish to decrease the volume every time he uses it.
@@elephystry You wouldn't have to if it was set correctly in the first place.
It most likely has a crowbar circuit which causes the pwr supply to shut down when a fault is detected. Disconnecting the main source for a period of time, long enough to reset the crowbar circuit. It a protection circuit.
Found your channel around the start of quarentine and wow, ive watched at least 2 videos a day and sometimes more like 5 and im still working through tha back catalogue. Love your vids a ton, keep putting them out!
same here
Most advanced power supplies these days have protection circuits that can detect over current, over voltage and short circuits as well as thermal cutoff. If something is shorting out the power supply it will activate the protection circuit and turn itself off. When you unplug it from the shorted board it will remain off until you remove all the power from the PSU (and let time for the caps to drain). Than it will turn on again. If it's a thermal fuse you will have to wait until it cools down.
If that ever happens you will need to check the power rails of the board for shorts or low impedance
Yes! Another Vince vid, gonna go brew some coffee, relax, and watch!
I've had a broken system for a while now and took it to pieces to use the power button (DSW-001) as a jumper for my pc when its not in a case. More than happy to send you the wifi module mate.
You really should take the watch off when working on mains appliances. I was working in a comercial 3com network switch and had to do some live diagnosis with it plugged in, and I was wearing my metal apple watch band. I rest my hand on a live heatsink accidentally, and i got a shock straight through my rist. Lucky that I only used one hand and not both.
good workaround. Totally worth the effort to remove the parts to get a functional PS3
If you try updating, even with a usb it will brick it, until you get a wifi card and then restore it with a usb, i learned that the hard way :P
This ^ take this warning seriously.
Nope. It will output an error (ending up on a loop, like he said on the video). It won't brick your console. Where do you got that from? Your might had other problem cause with NO BT/WIFI you won't get a brick by trying to update the official firmware! Now some CFW's (custom firmwares) can brick your console. It's reparable if you have a backup of your NOR.
@@Falcon_Indestro So, updating with a usb will certainly fail, and cause a boot loop, of sorts? I would have thought it was definitely the way to go....
What about updating the HD on another ps3 then putting it back or does it also need to copy files into the flash storage
F4lc0n Ind3str0 its called a soft brick
That wi-fi chip also has a bluetooth antenna, if you look at the board theres 2 antenna slots, one for connecting an external wifi antenna and another for an external bluetooth antenna...
by the way vince, if you read this again by any chance, then there's a No Wi-Fi/No Bluetooth Jailbreak firmware out for the PS3 if you want to install it now, check it out here www.psx-place.com/threads/modified-rebug-4-86-1-lite-for-broken-ps3-nobt-nobd-rsod.28922/
I think you need to start experimenting by using your power supply to diagnose shorts. Low Voltage/ High current injection into the PCB will manifest itself as extreme heat and you can pinpoint the component with the short very easily. Freeze spray or Lighter petrol are good for observing the heat if you haven't got an IR camera.
What psu, because I try some for this technic and psu goes to protec mode...
The Dualshock 3 controllers require an intelligent host to charge. They will not charge from a typical USB phone charger. They will charge from a PC, and other 'intelligent' devices but the data send and data receive pins on the cable must be present. I think I may have mentioned this in the past.
This video gave new life to my PS3! I use it as a blue ray player in my semi truck and had the exact problem you described. If this video wasn't so detailed I never would have gone at the brain of this thing with a soldering iron. Thank you!
Is it fix now 😮
@@Waris-nd2dr yes, working great
@@tactical_trucker4761 my ps3 not starting what Is the problem
@@Waris-nd2dr When you plug it in does the red light come on showing it's getting power? If it doesn't then the solution in this video is the fix for it. It's a faulty chip installed by Sony and removing the components shown here fixes it. Just understand that this could destroy your PS3. My thoughts were it didn't work currently they worst I could do is make it still not work.
I think my ps3 time is over 😂😂@@tactical_trucker4761
Another awesome video =D Anyone who says you didn't fix it is missing the point that the motherboard was shutting off the PSU - it was completely dead, now its useable!!! Maybe one day when you get a scrap unit you might be able to re-visit the Wifi =D
You're a delight to watch mate. But be more careful when handling the ac psu, you got capacitors that might unload if you manage to short it shortly after disconnecting the plug!
price of wifi card and replacment IC is same or less than price of magic ns adapter. Just saying...
The WiFi card ic would take very long to arrive , and there's still a chance that it could just get fried instantly still, as well as the fact the WiFi card uses a ball grid array which is very hard to replace correctly. Just saying...
@@televisionandcheese it's BGA but very wide spread one, easy to replace. You can see it in old Vince video.
Is time to arrive factor in so old console repair....maybe. But one can probably emulate all his PS3 games on PC used to google for repair solution in a meantime :D
Yea but it looks ugly and anyways the console should be able to play online games which is a big deal
The WiFi and Bluetooth are integrated into the same module. I believe the controller does not sync up when wireless because Bluetooth isn't working. Pretty sure it would work once the module along with those faulty components are replaced. :)
there have been 9 firmware updates since that one was last updated www.xtremeps3.com/firmware-history/ just in case anyone was wondering. It is impressive to me how many years they have supported the ps3 with stability updates and minor fixes we are looking at 13 and a half years at this point.
Even it's gone old as a videogame player, it's still very fine Blu-Ray movie player, so perhaps that's why the console is still being updated.
That list is incomplete. It's missing a lot of firmwares. Here's a complete list:
www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/System_Firmware
The power supply appears to have a protection circuit which samples the current draw when it is powered and switches the power supply off when it see's an over current. This happens faster than your meter can detect. When you power it with the power supply disconnected it doesn't see an over current and switches the power supply on. You still have the voltage when you connect it since its already done its check and switched the power supply on. Sometimes if you unplug and plug the mains fast enough the power supply hasn't discharged and therefore remains in the state that it was in before you unplugged.
It's useful not to unsolder component completely during debugging, but just shift it and leave one pin soldered. May prevent some mistakes or component loss later.
There is a short on the board tripping the protection of the PSU. That is all it is. If the PSU didnt shut its self down as a safety precaution then there is a risk of a fire. Think of it like a circuit breaker. Same idea as what is going on in the PSU when a short occurs.
Nothing magical about the PSU that causes a shutdown. There exists a well-known component that prevents the board from carrying an unwanted short or high current: a fuse.
@@DaMu24 Unless it's an Apple product, those fuses never blow.
Hi, Vince. I was wondering that there is a cover on the wifi chip if I remembered it right from the last video. How about taking off the cover and cheching what is wrong inside. I think it will be much easier to switch components inside the cover since the main chip is not a bga one. In this way, there will be no need to mess around with the bga stuff.
You underestimate the power of the PS3 regarding its capabilities Vince, as well as dedicated players who still play to this day :)
I just plugged in my PS3 yesterday.
Instant video on fixing a PS3.
*N I C E*
Same I just hooked mine up yesterday as well after picking up some cheap games to mess around in.
Hey Mate.. I love your vids.. just broke a joy con trying to fix it.. gotta keep trying though!! take care.
Your videos always make my day so much better I opened up my PS4 and cleaned it by wacthing one of your videos
I get around the 'charging cable' vs 'data cable' by only having data cables :)
Not one of the 30 or so USB cables I have is a 'charging only' cable.
Funny thing is, prior to you saying there was a difference, I didn't even realise there was 2 cables, i'm still not convinced (at least here in Australia) that there is 2 separated ones.
I have a draw which i keep all my "good" cables in
In that draw, i currently have:
3 USB A to Micro B Cables
2 USB A to Mini B Cables
3 USB A to Lightning Cables
(i dont have any cables with a USB type C connector at the moment)
I did at one point have a few "power only" cables, but those sorts of cables get labled as "defective" just so i dont get confused
and i also have 2 cables which i used to class as "good" cables but they now wear a "defective" label
You’re right Vince we always take the red light for granted
I kinda liked the multimeter beeps. Please unmuffle it! :)
Yaaaaay a good video to watch before bed
I’m watching this is bed
True
Jenson Hartup Same
Hi Vince, yes, usually wifi and bluetooth are done in the same module, since they are the same frequency, they can have a single chip for both, and same antena
Hey Vince, liked the video! I also had the same problem as yours. I had a PS3 Slim 3012A Model, It didnt have no lights like yours. I got mine repaired like late 2018. If i remebered correctly, The technician soildered two wires in the places where that black square looking chip would be. My PS3 doesent have a hard drive, and we bought a new hard drive, and we go to update it, it checked the components therefore it was updated. I can't really remember because it was years ago. Fast foward to now, i sold it back in 2020 because of i want to trade it for a PC.
I love the way your mind works Vince! I've learned quite a bit watching your videos. Thank you for your time and considerable talent.
Sadly the CECH-3000 models can't be fully hacked and I am not sure if HEN actually checks for missing components (I have not really looked into that, because I have two fully hackable slims). For the earlier models (2000, 2500) there is a custom firmware that works for consoles with missing drives, might work for consoles with other missing parts too.
Remarkable recover, why it seemed like just earlier today you were utterly and completely voiceless, and WOW! here you are now like as if you never lost your voice.. APU I dropped a like oh and yo duh Man!..
Great video Vince my 6 year old son loves watching your videos and now tells me how to connect his games consoles to different tv's he loves your switch videos
I was thinking: man I wish this reassembly video was a trying to fix one. Wish granted. Thanks Vince, you read our minds! 😊
Good work. I love that your just a regular guy having a go and learning from it I think that’s the best way of learning being thrown in the deep end and working it out for yourself. Thanks for all the info keep up the good work I’m mid modding a sim ps2 and original Xbox good times.
I downloaded a lot of game patches on my PS3 when they threatened to pull the store, then my controllers stopped working wirelessly, then the PS3 died completely with no power LED. Replaced the PSU with no improvement.
It was the wireless and bluetooth stuff!! All makes sense now. Great vid and comment section.
I didn't have a heat gun and did a hack job desoldering these components but it worked!! Took the wifi card short off the power supply load and PS3 resumed working! This video is only place I've seen this issue discussed and it rescued my favorite console! Thanks!!
How did u do it. I got a ps3 slim 2004b. Can u help me. I will just play offline games.
You should wear rubber gloves while testing 240v atleast, just for your safety 😃
Thank you so much for your videos. I just bought a cheap ps3 super slim and your diagnosis with the controller is exactly my issue. Now I know there is an fix. THANKS SO MUCH!.
If you have another PS3 just take the hard drive and put it inside that one, then just update it from that way, once it’s done just put it back into that console. It would work and it doesn’t update much so you won’t have to do it often :)
He Vince (nice vid as always)...
In our language we call that part (28:00) "kurvitko" (which has nothing to do with w*ores, the best YT friendly translation would be "fail generator") which means it's a part that's designed to make a device fail after certain amount of time - which is most likely few days after warranty expires. And the more hidden or silly the better. It exist only so the customer have to buy a new product every set of time instead of having a device that lasts 10+ years.
It's called "Planned obsolescence" , it's a common "feature" for productors of many electronic devices. Apple and Samsung were already been fined here in Italy for that same "feature".
maybe if it is a 2000-2501 ps3 you could use a e3 flasher and jailbreak it and then install the no blue ray cfw and see if that would also work for no wifi chip problem
Unfortunately it's a 3000 he showed it at the beginning
Love your videos and I have been a subscriber for awhile. I'm probably in the minority on this, but I would prefer a more edited shorter video. 25 minutes at the longest. Just some feedback. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way. I'll still watch none the less.
Look who got himself a new intro.
Jailbreak it with hfw or custom firmware also check the wifi chip this time dont destroy it completely just take off the emi sheild and look at the 8 pin chip to see if that is causing the short or other caps
If this a 3000 Model there is no way he could because you need would need to update it to 4.84 I believe for HAN but if it’s a older slim you could user a flasher but I don’t know how well it would work and it’s not cheap, only if it had CFW, you could just edit the new update to skip the modem/WiFi check kinda like if you had a missing blu-ray drive and blu-ray board
@@DXcool223 you can download any update firmware file for the version you want for your ps3. You can't go back but you can go foward
@@momfiethehunter504 Did you watch the video? Vince can't go forward coz updating the firmware will brick PS3. You can't update neither over Ethernet nor from flashdrive. So its stuck being 4.5 till wi-fi module is replaced
@@DXcool223 Failoverflow cfw have the option to bypass the wifi/bt option only if the ps3 is lower than 2000 series not too sure of the 3000 and up unless he end up modifying the ofw to bypass the wifi/bt but i suppose he can find the replacement chip for it first
Always love these videos
just update the hard drive in a different playstation 3
Nope this will not work
Can you try fixing a rrod xbox? That would be a nice throwback
I find the best fix is to throw it away and pretend you didn't own it.
Get PS5!!!!!
@@SpideySajan I think you are on the wrong channel
Nice one Vince, great vlog again. keep em coming
I love your new intro, Vince.
It looks like that bigger rectangular pad has a little bit of rust or corrosion on its top right corner
(25:24) then pause)
You can see the little brown triangle in that corner
Just looks like exposed copper trace to me.
And to top it Off have one of those in my shed that’s has the same issue so I hope you can get it working that way I can have a go at mine
I fixed it by reballing the southbridge. It took me weeks to figure it out. It was a pain in the ass lol
I love your videos BTW
Real
great video👍👍👍wonder if a usb wifi card would work
No, wont work. Once I succed to install a new firmware with a old Bluetooth usb module v1.2 (under 4.60, I dont really remember) but it wont work for new firmware, sadly...
Glad to see the past experience made it a lot easier to troubleshoot. Great Vid! Keep it up!
Also;
If you have a spare hard drive and want to test the updating, you could probably use the ps3's backup utility to basically clone this current hard drive so that in case the update fails, you can still have the ps3 working as it is currently.
As a precaution, you could also test if the back up works on the new "cloned" drive before doing anything else.
Note; Not sure if this will work as if the ps3 is like the ps4, where the firmware is more hardware level, doing this may cause you to get stuck in that update loop even with the "clone" drive
No joke I have this exact model Vince and I am currently trying a fix I have just got a cheap multimeter I may have to check this but mine turns on and then straight off but may be related to WiFi card also for sure not YLOD that’s a fact
Bad gpu
Momfie The hunter 100% not man already done a reflow to see if this was the case same situation I’ve had this on another unit also which turned out to be a bad capacitor amongst the power rail I’ll keep digging that’s for sure 👍
GM Kof hard I have the same with my PS3 red light comes for a few seconds then goes out. Forcing the fan to come on is the same will power on for a few seconds then shuts down. I tried another psu with higher current rating and that seems to work. Put the old psu in the other PS3 and it works ok. Will have to check around the wifi chip and see if it's shorting
I must say, that new intro music suits you down to the ground. I'm half presuming you took my advice on using a different editing software? Movie Maker is no good for anything anymore.
Excellent fix Vince! I love your videos on these complicated consoles like the switch Xbox ps3 etc , they're usually avoided by most people as they're rather daunting to work on , while you just go straight in, and most of the time get them working !!
You are right about not really needing to update too , PS3 online isn't going to be around for long, and what most people do with PS3s is downgrade them to Version 3.55 which let's you run any game , and allows for lots of modding and homebrew and such. So the fact you can't update really shouldn't be a problem at all, I'd say this is a great fix ! Well done
One thought is that the WiFi chips regulator ic , the thing that was making the pulse which killed the WiFi chip , what if you replaced just that ?
If you replace the whole WiFi chip but not the ic , then the ic will kill the WiFi,
But if you replace the ic but not the WiFi, the new IC should be unharmed, and there's a chance the original WiFi chip may still work ?
PS3 remembers the last installed harddrive. If you try to install a new one and it is unsuccessful, you can reinstall the hdd that was working and go to recovery. Choose rebuild database and the original hdd content will appear unaffected by the second hdd you tried to install. Just dont try a third hdd before popping in the original working one or you are sol.
Watch a MyMate Vince video or finish Xenoblad Chronicles? Hmmm... yeah, I'll stick the game on pause and start watching :) Looking forward to finding out what the problem with this one is.
would be really cool to see you put an item togther from buying all part seperatly "ish" would be cool to see how the prices differst to from puting it together or when buying it as an finised item
nice video vince and the slim is my favourite ps3
To make it fast it looks to be a short in the motherboard you could inject some volatge on that 5 v or 3v pin and see what is getting hot
Have you ever tried to mount / connect electronically a headphone jack in a PS3? Or modded the top / lid, so the "PS3" logo lights up? Thank you 🤓
Hello Vince, I know this is old video but, i want to tell you that you dont need to change whole wifi bt module, actualy you can replace only marvel chip and voltage regulator, marvel chip on cech 30xx is same as cech25xx model of ps3. So if you have one broken 25xx console you can swap marvel chip from that console to 30xx. Sorry if my english is bad. Wish you the best, i enyoy your videos... Cheers mate 🙂
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I have a problem it stay off when i turn it on it schut off
If you are thinking of trying to plug in the hard drive in another ps3 to update the software, it will not boot up, because when you install the ps3 software on a hard drive that hard drive is then tied to the system itself.
Use your ohm meter on the power rail to locate your short
Hi Vince you can download the latest firmware on the playstation website.
PlayStation 3 CECH-2504B playing games but controller and wifi not working LOL. I can play games connected to USB and with ethernet! I'm tring for a solution too!
Nice work!
It's wifi bluetooth module so no controller if no wifi too!!
And also you may be able to install a customfw as a workaround to be able to connect to the internet
I have the same PS3 Slim CECH-3003A model with the same wifi issue. Ethernet and a long wired cable for the controller is what i get away with. Got it cheap on ebay, luckily it has the 4.86 firmware on mine. Even putting a larger hard drive in it will need the software re-installed which will cause the brick problem. Which is a shame, because i have loads of larger sized hard drives laying around.
If you ever decide to homebrew it then look for PS3 HEN by Joonie and the PS3Xploit team. I'm not sure if you'll be able to get the firmware up to that point though without the wifi being enabled else you'll end up in the dreaded update loop! Unless there's a way to bypass those checks with the HEN then you'll only be able to play games up to 2013 on it until you can get it updated.
Luv ur videos vince. Keep it up!!!! 👌
Thanks a lot!!!!!!
i fixed my console because of you!!!
huge thanks
Great video Vince.
it would be amazing to see the wifi card fixed but is a vga chip and thats harder than a normal chip unfortunatelly... I am looking forward to see a revisit video when you have a joblot of ps3 slims :)
The fw 4.50 is because it was one of the fw that was hackable.
Love the new intro
Now you'll need to fix the one from 2 years ago and this one since they have the exact same issue :) Lucky me... I'm still waiting for a positive fix on this type of issue :D
Yes the WiFi chip is also for the controller same as the PS4
That was fascinating. I wonder is a USB combo WiFi/ Bluetooth USB adapter would work? I got three for $20 on ebay and they work great on a PC. A while ago I got a lot of wifi cards for differnt types of devices (12 I think) for about $7, I'll try and match them up on my own PS3 Slim and let you know.
There is a CFW nobt firmware that can bypass this issue but only on support ps3 slims that take cfw firmwares. Otherwise you will need to replace the wifi/bt module im afraid!
a work around for the software update problem look into a ps3 flasher to flash a custom firmware to the ps3 maybe
Is it possible to place the hard drive in a different ps3 and update to the latest version? Maybe ethernet will then work (until the next update).
Nope
Vince try updating the hard drive in a working ps3 then put it back in it should just work fine with that any hard drive formatted to a ps3 will always be read by another
That wont work as each hd is encrypted to the specific ps3 motherboard.
Hey Vince hope you are doing okay I think that TH-cam algorithm is killing your channel because look at the views and subscriber....
I believe that you should put more 10min video according to the new youtube strategy algorithm .....
Hope you will find this interresting.
Love u..
I broke my board attempting a delid, the only replacements I can find online are ones that have no power like this PS3 did. Are the odds quite high that they've got this same fault? I don't use wifi so I'd be fine with removing a couple SMDs as a permanent "fix" lol. Or I could donate the wifi parts from my previously working board.
Hello, greetings from Bulgaria, Vince I have super slim model and when i click the power button it beeps once and the green light comes then turns everything off, if i press the power button again it comes red light. No startup, no nothing...What to do?
i have similar issue, i have a short in the stand by line, 5 V, I have it in the power supply but not when I connect all, how can i know if it is the memory wifi or regulator Mitsumi 463A?
I'm pretty sure the commenters who complain about lag from the Magic NS adapter aren't good at games.
Possibly ... but usually low experience players cannot notice lag. High experience players who notice lag are usually good because of the time they've spent playing.
That doesn't make any sense
Lets be fair now.. Console plebs all play with MASSIVE input lag and never notice. whats an extra 5-10ms matter to them.
And if you say you cant notice input lag, just go and download VLC media player and offset the audio by 5ms at a time. then tell me you dont notice minute differences like 5-15ms..
if you play mario on an emulator and a real snes and dont notice the difference between them, then you will be fine with probably up to 50ms of input delay. The rest of us really cannot deal with that.
I've done that repair and replacement of the parts but WiFi and remote control not working now.. did you have the same issue ? What's the solution?
I got a ps3 slim that is having the same issue. Do you do repairs for viewers?