If you ever find a peavey 260 standard pay the person the 40 bucks they are asking for it and experience what a real amplifier can do. I have a horrible problem and collect/have a massive collection of peavey amplifiers and out of every thing I own my 79 musician or my 76 260 standard are my absolute favorites there is something about them that makes it seem like it just a super compressed fuzz/gated distortion that fucking magical
what?? They're all amazing. The concert lead has a roundness in the mids that is really pleasing so I'll choose that if I have to. But seriously I'll take any one of these and be happy.
sunn solid states are magical. got my beta bass for $200, put it through a 1968 sunn coliseum lead w/ original 60w sunn transducers and never looked back (lm308 rat too of course)
Man I love your shootouts. These are probably the hardest for me to choose, the peavey sounds the cleanest to me but the concert lead is huge and I love the unique character of the ampeg. I'll go with the peavey this time
I own and love the Peavey, but I gotta go with the Sunn CL! Now I need some Sunn in my life! I also have a 1988 Marshall 3315 150w Lead that’s a MOSFET based JCM800 and it’s surprisingly good for this stuff.
Beta Lead, hands down. It’s on my bucket list of impossible amps to both find and afford. Though I hear that diming the master can open some kind of dimensional gateway. They have a reputation of being ungodly loud. Like a Model T, but with a supernova in the power section. Love the disto sound of a Beta Lead. Rumor has it Adam Jones used one with his VH4s and SuperBass in the studio, but it proved too fragile for relentless touring. I think he copped the vibe from King Buzzo, who had a custom Beta clone made for that exact reason.
You can find the combos for somewhat cheap rarely haha, they also work as a head, they have a line out jack so you can use them as a head, I just bought my Sunn Beta Lead 212 combo for $600 total, insanely fucking loud amps haha, 100 watts at 4 ohms but with the drive maxed with the master volume at 1, this think is louder than my 20 watt practice amp at 10
Didn't expect them all to sound so good. Concert lead as an old favorite, Peavey Musician as a fun super loud amp. Try running a Hafler Hellrazor through a Hafler G300 and some good Marshall cabs. You'll scare away half your audience.
All these amps perform great Choosing the best is very subjective I know what characteristics attract me may not be another player’s palette I have old Peavy I picked up for $90 Can’t go wrong for that money
To my ears Ampeq sounded the best! I do not have one, But would like to get one someday! -also thought the Sunn Beta lead held its own pretty good as well!
I’ve got a beta and two concert leads, I much prefer the openness and harmonic grittiness of the concert leads. The beta’s feel more compressed not only in dynamics but the eq also feels like everything is squished together. On the concert I hit the gain switch and never get it above 9 o’clock but usually have it just barely on and it crunches like power tubes would which I love.
The Ampeg sounds the best, followed by the Sunn Beta, then the Sunn Concert....the Beta has a beefier, tastiness than the Concert. This model Peavey comes in last because it sounds too harsh until the fuzz really hits and thickens.
love all this video serie! I have an old Sound City 100 from 1969 and a Sovtek mig 100 (russian jcm 800 copie made early 90's) and they work like a charm with a fuzz pedal to have massive sound
Exited to see you doing the concert lead, grabbed a broken one a couple months ago and had it brought back to life and loving it. Especially curious what IR’s/ settings you use with it on your captor x!
Those sunns sound great. But the Peavey is the only one that sounded great with every pedal and alone. Those sunns did not play nice with that Mountain pedal. But it sounded killer on the Peavey. So my vote is Peavey Musician. On a side note, i can't believe nobody has made a "Peavey in a Box" type pedal. Nobody has really gotten that peavey style fuzz right
Beta Lead, but damn the Concert Lead sound good too. With pedals, in the mix, loved them all. This overall competition is further solidifying my preference for solid state.
Concert Lead for me. I actually have a broken one right now, this video is inspiring me to get back at fixing it! I was surprised by the Musician, I'm usually a huge fan of the 70s-80s Peavey stuff but it was actually my least favourite
Duuuude, thank you for making this video! This is so sick! I'm a Sunn Beta Lead fan, but the other amps in this vid sound sick as well. Keep it up dude, this is awesome!
It seriously needs a gain pedal in front of it for that doomy sludgy goodness. Lots of punch, but lacking a bit in gain for my tastes. Not bad by ANY stretch. Sunn knows how to make an amp
This is a tough one, again. I like the gain of the VH140C, but the Concert Lead wins out because it has such an awesome texture, despite having less gain on its own. Final answer: Concert Lead (just needs an OD or boost)
Those goddamned ampeg knobs are the bane of my existence! AMPEG for the win, but im biased. Like the custom headshell too. I have my 140 paired with a Mauler 4x12 with 2 v30s and 2 cream backs, and I added a stereo jack plate and and it's fucking SOLID. Ive owned a beta lead but I just couldn't get a tighter chug from it. 140 is super versatile and the stereo chorus is amazing too. OH OH, and if you want brutal death metal, dial that 140 in and shred your balls off... The other ones can't do that without a pedal. I plug straight in to mine. No pedals needed, unless you just want one for shits and gigs....
Hard choice between concert lead and the ampeg, also at the second riff of the solo amp section i always think intronaut-fast worms or king crimson-fallen angel for a second lol
The Concert Lead is one of my favorite SS amps . I regret selling mine a year ago . But I feel for this one it was between the CL and the Ampeg . Thanks for the vote Mike .
I always wondered how one of the solid state Ampeg SVT amps would do with guitar, in theory tons of wattage and clean headroom would be good for pedals, would probably have to keep the bass low to not destroy speakers maybe depending on the cab. And those little 200 watt mini ones have been tempting me for a while i just haven't pulled the trigger haha.
Yeah the Crush is a great amp . Owned one of them awhile back . But I always went back to the CL . I felt channel B on the crush was just not useable at all with pedals . But on its own it crushed ( No pun intended haha ) .
My dude you’re making it very hard to want to keep tubes in my life with this video. I’ve got a crush 120 pro I don’t think I’ll ever sell and that beats out the Rockerverb some days… Concert lead I think wins by a tiny bit BUT peavey is a very close second
From best to worst, I'm gonna say: Concert Lead, Ampeg, Beta Lead, Peavey The Concert was super punchy with lots of mids, and the distortion was slightly fuzzy but had lots of note clarity. The Peavey was overall pretty okay, but it lacked mids and low-end, and the distortion was way to overblown and farty.
Sounds like part of the first lead riff is only on the left channel for the peavey and part of the beta when in the mix. That said, I have to vote for the peavey, but maybe because of personal bias. Beta lead is a close second
ALL great fuzz pedals are served better by a clean amp. For the record, my fave amps for fuzz are both solid state, including my go-to LOUD AF full volume on-stage doom machine: Hiwatts 150 watt 1x12. It’s 3 channels, but I only use the first one (the cleanest Channel). It’s perfect for my Big Muff collection and my bizarre Death by Audio noise goblins. But the best thing about solid state guitar amps & fuzz pedals? Plug an analogue synth into a BM into a solid state clean guitar amp (EH “Dirt Road” is perfect for the bedroom at only 40 watts). Tube amps just don’t cut it. They “fart out” too easily when you use multiple fuzz pedals. You need a real clean amp, a base to build your fuzz upon (I like any 250 type OD pedal) then the T Bone to your fuzz, an actual fuzz pedal. Like the ZVex Fuzz Factory. That’s a great start in finding over the top fuzz. I would love to hear this thru one of Hiwatts incredible new solid state guitar amps. They’re all phenomenal.
Uff, this is the toughest one to decide. Soundwise i think they are all good in a way. I will go with the Beta Lead, because i like the way you can work with the two channels. The concert lead is better than i had in my mind tho. Keep it up. P.s. How many rounds do you plan in the forst rounds?
The beta is a great choice but I’d take the CL over that any day of the week . But all of them sounded nice in their own way . And what do you mean Forst round ? Thanks again for checking this out .
@@FuzzedDrones yes the CL is maybe even little better, but in this round i decided based on the mix options and i like the way it is on the Beta. “Forst” was a typo, it was First rounds, before we start moving up in th brackets :)
Beta Lead Concert Lead Ampeg Peavey Shocked how much I disliked the Peavey. It sounded ok in the mix and I guess you could use it as a 'blending' amp... but it did not do it for me otherwise.
I just got the Peavey Series and I’ve been messing around with it for a couple of days and I can’t find the tone I want! Too many options! I also have the later version that has a parallel and a series input. I have someone that wants to trade his Sunn Concert Lead (Silver Face)for my Peavey… what do y’all think? I playin a 2 piece stoner doom band. I mainly use a Fuzz pedal for my dirt.
Bit itchy n scratchy turning those knobs bud, made me feel like I just smoked a couple of bags on the foil 😆 keep up the good work, late to the party but dig your vids n smile more mr misery, christ you have all that amp porn behind you us mere mortals can only dream of haha subscribed, lets fuckin go 😂
Are you using a specific mic/cab or a capture device with specific IRs with these amps? I didn't see anything about that in the shootout. I liked the sounds of the Peavey the most but they all sounded good.
I have a Sunn beta Bass and a Peavey bass. Same period amps as the ones you demoed!!!! I love them!!!! Never ever will I sell them. Thank you!!! I need to look into those pedals.
The Concert Lead is super punchy and it sits so well in the mix
Love me some Concert Lead !
The Beta Lead has a midrange like nothing else, that's probably why I love mine so much
That Peavey sounds soo good!! I didn’t expect to like it it more than the beta lead.
If you ever find a peavey 260 standard pay the person the 40 bucks they are asking for it and experience what a real amplifier can do. I have a horrible problem and collect/have a massive collection of peavey amplifiers and out of every thing I own my 79 musician or my 76 260 standard are my absolute favorites there is something about them that makes it seem like it just a super compressed fuzz/gated distortion that fucking magical
@@booitsnick Can't find em quite that cheap anymore, but I did just buy a Musician for $200. Worth it.
The Peavey Musician 400!
I actually just ordered a Musician 400 yesterday from Musician's Friend, so im glad I made the right choice 🤘
1) Ampeg 2) concert 3) Beta 4) musician. The concert surprised me and I was shocked that I didn’t prefer the beta overall.
what?? They're all amazing. The concert lead has a roundness in the mids that is really pleasing so I'll choose that if I have to. But seriously I'll take any one of these and be happy.
How can you choose between those 4 winners? DAMN!?
Sunn Concert Lead for sure, played with another band who had one and almost started late because we couldn't stop talking about how much we loved them
sunn solid states are magical. got my beta bass for $200, put it through a 1968 sunn coliseum lead w/ original 60w sunn transducers and never looked back (lm308 rat too of course)
The Peavey sounds the best it's warmer the Rhythm and the open note sound sound the best
Probably some personal bias here but I dig the top-end "sizzle" of the Concert Lead. Really stands out in the mix!
Hell yeah the CL is just a badass amp .
Peavey made some nasty amps. I love those mixed SS & tube amps as well. I have an early Mace and it bangs.
Man I love your shootouts. These are probably the hardest for me to choose, the peavey sounds the cleanest to me but the concert lead is huge and I love the unique character of the ampeg.
I'll go with the peavey this time
Thank you I’m glad your liking these . We wanted to show more people what they Amps can do. Along with showing some side by side comparisons .
I own and love the Peavey, but I gotta go with the Sunn CL!
Now I need some Sunn in my life!
I also have a 1988 Marshall 3315 150w Lead that’s a MOSFET based JCM800 and it’s surprisingly good for this stuff.
The Peavey sounds amazing. It sounds like more of everything. It's just all there, really solid.
Beta Lead, hands down. It’s on my bucket list of impossible amps to both find and afford. Though I hear that diming the master can open some kind of dimensional gateway. They have a reputation of being ungodly loud. Like a Model T, but with a supernova in the power section. Love the disto sound of a Beta Lead. Rumor has it Adam Jones used one with his VH4s and SuperBass in the studio, but it proved too fragile for relentless touring. I think he copped the vibe from King Buzzo, who had a custom Beta clone made for that exact reason.
You can find the combos for somewhat cheap rarely haha, they also work as a head, they have a line out jack so you can use them as a head, I just bought my Sunn Beta Lead 212 combo for $600 total, insanely fucking loud amps haha, 100 watts at 4 ohms but with the drive maxed with the master volume at 1, this think is louder than my 20 watt practice amp at 10
turned my beta bass to 5 once and almost died
Concert Lead, Peavey close second. But damn they all worked well!
Its the Beta for sure. But both the Musician and Concert held their own well. Glad to have all three
Didn't expect them all to sound so good. Concert lead as an old favorite, Peavey Musician as a fun super loud amp. Try running a Hafler Hellrazor through a Hafler G300 and some good Marshall cabs. You'll scare away half your audience.
The Beta Lead sounds amazing. They all sound pretty good, though, which was a surprise to me. The Ampeg is nasty.
All these amps perform great
Choosing the best is very subjective
I know what characteristics attract me may not be another player’s palette
I have old Peavy I picked up for $90
Can’t go wrong for that money
This would be soo hard to choose a favorite, if I didn't already have an obsession with the Sunn Beta Lead/Bass.
To my ears Ampeq sounded the best!
I do not have one,
But would like to get one someday!
-also thought the Sunn Beta lead held its own pretty good as well!
I’ve got a beta and two concert leads, I much prefer the openness and harmonic grittiness of the concert leads. The beta’s feel more compressed not only in dynamics but the eq also feels like everything is squished together. On the concert I hit the gain switch and never get it above 9 o’clock but usually have it just barely on and it crunches like power tubes would which I love.
The Ampeg sounds the best, followed by the Sunn Beta, then the Sunn Concert....the Beta has a beefier, tastiness than the Concert.
This model Peavey comes in last because it sounds too harsh until the fuzz really hits and thickens.
Right on ! Unfortunately the Ampeg lost this round . The Sunn Concert lead took this round .
The concert lead kinda had a cool crunch to it, but the peavy sounded devastating it’s the best.
I think for the last video there should be a final round to pick the "best", but I think you should have us do it blind.
Now that is a really good idea !
love all this video serie!
I have an old Sound City 100 from 1969 and a Sovtek mig 100 (russian jcm 800 copie made early 90's) and they work like a charm with a fuzz pedal to have massive sound
Exited to see you doing the concert lead, grabbed a broken one a couple months ago and had it brought back to life and loving it. Especially curious what IR’s/ settings you use with it on your captor x!
The CL has to be one of my favorite SS Amps !
Those sunns sound great. But the Peavey is the only one that sounded great with every pedal and alone. Those sunns did not play nice with that Mountain pedal. But it sounded killer on the Peavey.
So my vote is Peavey Musician.
On a side note, i can't believe nobody has made a "Peavey in a Box" type pedal. Nobody has really gotten that peavey style fuzz right
Beta Lead, but damn the Concert Lead sound good too. With pedals, in the mix, loved them all. This overall competition is further solidifying my preference for solid state.
I fee everyone sleeps on that Concert Lead . Still one of my favorite SS amps .
Love how the Ampeg sounds. I actually use a clone of this amp and that's my lead guitar sound.
Sunn concert lead
Same 🤘🏻
Concert Lead for me. I actually have a broken one right now, this video is inspiring me to get back at fixing it!
I was surprised by the Musician, I'm usually a huge fan of the 70s-80s Peavey stuff but it was actually my least favourite
Duuuude, thank you for making this video! This is so sick! I'm a Sunn Beta Lead fan, but the other amps in this vid sound sick as well. Keep it up dude, this is awesome!
The sunn concert lead just sounds huge, bigger tone than the others imo
It seriously needs a gain pedal in front of it for that doomy sludgy goodness. Lots of punch, but lacking a bit in gain for my tastes. Not bad by ANY stretch. Sunn knows how to make an amp
Sunn beta. Very cool and unusual.
Another vote for the Concert Lead. Unmistakeably a Sunn amp, worked great with every pedal!
Its between the peavey and concert lead. Id like to dual amp both of those. 😂
This is a tough one, again. I like the gain of the VH140C, but the Concert Lead wins out because it has such an awesome texture, despite having less gain on its own. Final answer: Concert Lead (just needs an OD or boost)
So tough without good headphones. They all sound great, but I'd give the Concert Lead the edge.
I choose the Ampeg. This was definitely the closest one overall, though. All of them sound great
I mean it was really hard to choose honestly they all sound amazing. But I’m going with the musician on this one.
Those goddamned ampeg knobs are the bane of my existence! AMPEG for the win, but im biased. Like the custom headshell too. I have my 140 paired with a Mauler 4x12 with 2 v30s and 2 cream backs, and I added a stereo jack plate and and it's fucking SOLID. Ive owned a beta lead but I just couldn't get a tighter chug from it. 140 is super versatile and the stereo chorus is amazing too. OH OH, and if you want brutal death metal, dial that 140 in and shred your balls off... The other ones can't do that without a pedal. I plug straight in to mine. No pedals needed, unless you just want one for shits and gigs....
Hard choice between concert lead and the ampeg, also at the second riff of the solo amp section i always think intronaut-fast worms or king crimson-fallen angel for a second lol
I own 3 versions of the Ampeg ss70. Maybe my favorite non Marshall amp I’ve ever owned.
Betalead.
I would like to say my vote is the deciding win for the beta lead
I like the first riff.
Ampeg for the win, only because I thought it sounded best on its own.
The peavey 2nd as i liked it more with the pedal.
Concert Lead is my fav. The musician comes in second but yeah the musician needs a lot of pedal help in comparison.
The Concert Lead is one of my favorite SS amps . I regret selling mine a year ago . But I feel for this one it was between the CL and the Ampeg . Thanks for the vote Mike .
I always wondered how one of the solid state Ampeg SVT amps would do with guitar, in theory tons of wattage and clean headroom would be good for pedals, would probably have to keep the bass low to not destroy speakers maybe depending on the cab. And those little 200 watt mini ones have been tempting me for a while i just haven't pulled the trigger haha.
Sunn Concert Lead gets my vote. But still prefer my Orange Crush Pro120 as the ultimate solid-state amp for Doom, Sludge, and Stoner.
Yeah the Crush is a great amp . Owned one of them awhile back . But I always went back to the CL . I felt channel B on the crush was just not useable at all with pedals . But on its own it crushed ( No pun intended haha ) .
My dude you’re making it very hard to want to keep tubes in my life with this video. I’ve got a crush 120 pro I don’t think I’ll ever sell and that beats out the Rockerverb some days… Concert lead I think wins by a tiny bit BUT peavey is a very close second
From best to worst, I'm gonna say: Concert Lead, Ampeg, Beta Lead, Peavey
The Concert was super punchy with lots of mids, and the distortion was slightly fuzzy but had lots of note clarity. The Peavey was overall pretty okay, but it lacked mids and low-end, and the distortion was way to overblown and farty.
I was conflicted until the individual amp demos. I give it to the Ampeg.
peavey and ampeg ftw
I have that Ampeg and a Peavey Standard Mark III, very good amps.
Nr. 1 Peavey
Peavy Musician sounded best in the mix with the pedals. Beta was the best on its own but have to go with the Peavey
Yeah the peavey took pedals super well . It was kind of shocking .
Sounds like part of the first lead riff is only on the left channel for the peavey and part of the beta when in the mix.
That said, I have to vote for the peavey, but maybe because of personal bias. Beta lead is a close second
Concert Lead all the way. I’ve got to get me some Sunn action, the Beta & Concert Leads are killer.
ALL great fuzz pedals are served better by a clean amp. For the record, my fave amps for fuzz are both solid state, including my go-to LOUD AF full volume on-stage doom machine: Hiwatts 150 watt 1x12. It’s 3 channels, but I only use the first one (the cleanest Channel). It’s perfect for my Big Muff collection and my bizarre Death by Audio noise goblins.
But the best thing about solid state guitar amps & fuzz pedals? Plug an analogue synth into a BM into a solid state clean guitar amp (EH “Dirt Road” is perfect for the bedroom at only 40 watts). Tube amps just don’t cut it. They “fart out” too easily when you use multiple fuzz pedals. You need a real clean amp, a base to build your fuzz upon (I like any 250 type OD pedal) then the T Bone to your fuzz, an actual fuzz pedal. Like the ZVex Fuzz Factory. That’s a great start in finding over the top fuzz.
I would love to hear this thru one of Hiwatts incredible new solid state guitar amps. They’re all phenomenal.
Uff, this is the toughest one to decide. Soundwise i think they are all good in a way. I will go with the Beta Lead, because i like the way you can work with the two channels. The concert lead is better than i had in my mind tho.
Keep it up.
P.s. How many rounds do you plan in the forst rounds?
The beta is a great choice but I’d take the CL over that any day of the week . But all of them sounded nice in their own way . And what do you mean Forst round ? Thanks again for checking this out .
@@FuzzedDrones yes the CL is maybe even little better, but in this round i decided based on the mix options and i like the way it is on the Beta.
“Forst” was a typo, it was First rounds, before we start moving up in th brackets :)
Beta Lead
Concert Lead
Ampeg
Peavey
Shocked how much I disliked the Peavey. It sounded ok in the mix and I guess you could use it as a 'blending' amp... but it did not do it for me otherwise.
Lab Series L5 gets my vote.
Orange CR120 a close 2nd
Right on you should do a video then .
I just got the Peavey Series and I’ve been messing around with it for a couple of days and I can’t find the tone I want! Too many options! I also have the later version that has a parallel and a series input. I have someone that wants to trade his Sunn Concert Lead (Silver Face)for my Peavey… what do y’all think?
I playin a 2 piece stoner doom band. I mainly use a Fuzz pedal for my dirt.
the peavey once again dominates!
A lot of love coming in for the Peavey 🤘🏻
I'm going beta lead, the mids and bite done it for me
I own all 4 amps and I gotta say for me PEAVEY FTW!!!
Bit itchy n scratchy turning those knobs bud, made me feel like I just smoked a couple of bags on the foil 😆 keep up the good work, late to the party but dig your vids n smile more mr misery, christ you have all that amp porn behind you us mere mortals can only dream of haha subscribed, lets fuckin go 😂
The concert lead all day!!!!
Are you using a specific mic/cab or a capture device with specific IRs with these amps? I didn't see anything about that in the shootout. I liked the sounds of the Peavey the most but they all sounded good.
The Sunn Beta and the Ampeg get my vote.
Now if you had to pick one . What one would it be ?
@@FuzzedDrones Sunn ftw
I have a Sunn beta Bass and a Peavey bass. Same period amps as the ones you demoed!!!! I love them!!!! Never ever will I sell them. Thank you!!! I need to look into those pedals.
Nice , and yeah Frost Giants stuff is great . I felt Eric’s pedals works great for this sound .
Please do combos and practice amps at some point
That video has been done already . It was posted up a few months ago 🤘🏻
sunn))) beta lead 4 the *HARSH*
Concert lead for me
I vote peavy musician, sorry valve purists
Which one won round 3?
Beta Lead!! 0))
Ampeg
Solid choice
Ampeg.
🤘🏻
Peavy
Dumb metal?? 😭
Sure I guess ??
I've got to go with the Musician 400. That thing is a beast. 💪