Wilder power hooks is bothering me a lot so I did it too and it was remarkable that even if youre dumb in this game you can win with wilder. 10-1 and I was doing great enjoying and was smooth using my Larry Holmes , but then 4 straight Wilder users ruined it for me.
Bruh I forgot to mention that if ghost punching us getting hit while completely out of range then yea that's terrible I thought it was my internet connection but im getting 426 mbps
I'll be honest. I don't own this game and haven't played a boxing game and a long time. The last time I played I was 14 or 15, so I loved spamming weird combinations that broke the game. It could just be the age of the users lmao
The thing that gets me is that is a problem the same problem that almost all sports fighting games have why is it all of a sudden and issue it's even worse in ufc 5 still and it's been out forever in fact ufc is worse because it's very uneven like izzy has the speed of a fly weght and the chin of a god with the power of mike tyson and he never gets tired I just don't see the stamina as an issue as much as things like how shity south paws feel like usyc feels like shit he's one of the best in the world he should feel amazing and ali has way too much power ali was never a one punch ko guy he was a volume puncher he only knocked one person out cold ever the games has him way broken
A lot of people are complaining about the power punches but they aren't seeing the bigger picture. The real issue is the current stamina model. : Stamina drainage needs to be reflected more in what a fighter is capable of. As stamina drains, punches should slow, be weaker and less accurate. When stamina is depleted a lot, multi punch combos should be very difficult. Power punches should cause a lot of damage. You just shouldn't be able to throw 500 per fight. 🤣 Also, power punches should drain stamina at a much faster rate than speed punches. : When Stamina is corrected, punch power will actually need to be increased for a more realistic presentation, otherwise, most fights will just go the distance. Speed punches will need a larger boost while power punches only need a small increase. This point is only relevant though, if the stamina is fixed.
I hope a scary ghost haunts the Devs but instead of horror stuff it's just writing fixes like these on their walls, maybe a lil ghost punch here or there keep em on their toes, they've had sooo long to get this right how how how are the basics so fumbly
We already had slow punches, it was one of the weirdest things to play with and against. If you hadn't see your bar and launched punch by accident, it would take 2s to windup, but 2 problems occured : 1. You can't stop it, meaning your error let the other one punch 4, 5, 6 times, and after the animation finishes (finally) you get another one which is a counter, obviously, you're KD. 2. As slow as a punch can be, it will still hit, meaning you still have to dodge it, cause sometimes, it's the famous one that was enough to knock you down, and dodging something THAT slow, can be even harder.
I won't say you're wrong completely, because if you watch the Bowe vs Holyfield trilogy fights, they were both dead tired and still winging bombs that had a great bit of speed left on them. Balancing Stamina with Power and Speed has to be more than just "less stamina = low power and slow punches".
what u mean i think its fair they just need to make the penalty harder with spamming punches if u get caught. some real fights get 1000 punches per fight wdym? the beta showed power punches are useless coz its slow as hell
I’m so glad I been watching ppl playing ranked and breaking down the shenanigans because I’m tryna really box and not finna play ranked until they fix the stamina and touch up the netcode for online (ranked) mode. It feels good to study your opponent and adapt to a style to beat them but when they able to just spam all these power shots or excessive punches and stamina not dropping as fast for higher rated fighters is insane. Ppl really tryna spam and expect to win every match but before they lose they quit to avoid the loss on their record and prevent you from getting the win with the ranked points is just another reason to not play ranked until this issue is also addressed. I hope the Devs listen to the vital feedback from the community and fix it for the overall health and longevity of this game.
Its more than just power punching. Other problems are: 1)When you're too close to the opponent you can't back away. You get glued together unable to move backwards. 2)Punches still miss when right in front of the opponent for no reason. 3) Input delay, even in offline. When pressing inputs there is a small delay before it happens on the screen. 4) horrible head movement and leaning. Leaning and weaving with L Trigger is basically useless, all punches still track and hit you. The L3 click with direction Slipping isn't very good either and is far too brief. Overall head movement was better in previous boxing games. 5) ghost punches online.
Slipping and head movement needs to be buffed. I cant slip to the outside of a jab for shit, despite having what should be perfect timing. Its fucking annoying. Power shot spammers are ruinning rampant rn to. I think whiffed power shots need to drain hella stamina, and they need to buff the jab or atleast the power jab to where you can interrupt attempted power shots. Like my stiff arm jab shouldnt perfectly smack you on the dome while youre winding and loading up a huge punch, amd have zero intteruption or counter to it. Your ass shouldnt be able to throw the punch when youre getting pieced up. Power shots just need to be a bit more unsafe to use imo
It drains hella stamina, but you regen so quick it doesn't matter that much. AI actually manage to stop power punches quite consistently and dodge every punch you could try to do, but mimicking them is close to impossible so it's annoying.
@@almisernot really. It doesn’t drain much until you throw multiple power shots in a row, and even then, the speed and power don’t drop much if at all until it’s completely empty so effectively it doesn’t drain stamina, just the bar that represents how much SHOULD be draining
Some ways I've lost online ranked matches - Got hit with 3 ghost power punches from across the ring away - KO'ed by Deyonte Wilder in the 8th round with Ali after 7-0 in each round. Ghost power hook that reached me even though I leaned back and it was a instant KO (no chance to even try to beat the count) he had 34% stam at the end while I was at 76%. I've also had about 5 wins taken away because opponents quit during the get up animation so it didn't count the wins. Then I had about 4 matches that the server crashed and booted me to the main screen and I get a notification asking me to please stop quitting matches or I'll be placed in a lower priority server with other players the "quit". Such bullshit
I was excited about this game but watching this and reading the comments I’d say the Devs know absolutely nothing about the sweet science. Such a shame it’s not realistic. Stamina is the main key. And 8 rounds is pathetic!!!
Fight Night Champion had the same spammers. You have to realize that most of the player base doesn't watch real boxing, and some are young fighting game fans. Just like in any sports game, people will always find the Meta and cheese just to get wins. Madden, NBA 2k, Fifa, etc. all have the same spammers and cheesers.
That's why this version of the game needed to be tested through beta, at least a month b4 release, to allow the public to break the game, that some have found in 1 day, that the devs overlooked.
Having that option over just 8 rounds flat would be nice but I think just 12 rounds flat instead of 8 would be better because you’d have increased que times with people matching if there was multiple choices of rounds. Still I wouldn’t mind either suggestion!
Yes please. I thought the studio being the underdog would actually help them make a better game then ea could, but god damn they messed up badly. First time I've ever wanted to refund a game
I got into the Early Access three days prior to the official release and I prefer the gameplay from the early access. The fact that Rank is 8 rounds goes away from the message that the studio delivered prior to launch which was to provide a genuine boxing experience.
Just got it. Spamming power hooks trumps absolutley everything. Tried playing patiently and using range with jabs and crosses as tyson fury, opponent is always wilder and always spamming power hooks. Youd think landing a clean jab or cross would interupt their power hook... NO, never and even if you block it it still rocks you 😂
Somebody spams power shots on me they will lose my body shots. Trump any power shot just move sideways and once he throws the power shot hit him with a body hook power.
Bro I lost to someone earlier, he was RJJ and I was Sergio Martinez I was outboxing pretty well and tearing his body up to the point where his character was gasping for air in the 7th and he knocked me out with a power shot. My stamina was in the 79% his was 28%. I was so mad
I've been saying this since PC version dropped and I'll say it again. This game is bad, it's fun, but it's a bad game fundamentally. It has the framework of boxing mechanics but none of the systems feed in to eachother in a logical or sim way and many of the mechanics including the actual punches are simply broken or unpolished with no depth. People love to say this game is more sim than FNC but it's really not. If you are actually good at FNC you know that stamina management is extremely important and it effects everything in the fight. Spamming leads to vulnerability later in the fight. One of the most common match ups in FNC was rocky Marciano vs Mike Tyson because it was a perfect example of early power fighter vs tough durable fighter. Mike has all the speed, power, reflex advantages so he can do damage early and outnpoint rocky but rocky is super tough and has the best cardio so it would always be a chess match because both fighters could approach each round differently depending on the situation. Does Tyson try to out point the whole fight and risk not doing enough damage to hold rocky at bay in the later rounds ? Does Tyson just go full aggro out the gate so he can avoid later rounds and risk being gassed and over taken by round 5 or 6 ? There was REAL sim strategies in FNC and this game severely lacks that. I honestly think this game is like a tech demo with a bunch of boxing features but very little depth to the overall package, quality games are built in a way where everything has a weakness or a counter and this game does not have that because most things are broken and are just in the game to mimic boxing. Deontay can throw 5 left hooks within 1 second in this game.... and to even throw a straight punch it takes much longer than it takes him to throw those 5 hooks.... there's no logic behind that. The developers of this game don't actually think about how the game should work and what should counter what, they just made boxers, made boxing mechanics, threw them together without fine tuning and stitching them together properly and put it up for sale. Anyone who says this game is SIM or better than fight night either hasn't played it enough or is just coping extremely hard. It is fun, but it ain't sim at all.
Absolutely agree. I paid for the game so I hope it goes towards better development. Fight night champion is leagues better gameplay wise in every facet. You can even make FNC more sim by turning off the extra graphical flashes from counters. FNC has its abusable animations which can be game breaking (chicken wing straight and side step uppercuts), but at least I can see who the other person is picking before the fight for fun matchups. The day 1 patch hasn't dropped yet, but as of this moment undisputed is way below my expectations. Honestly, the developers should be ashamed for releasing the game in this state. I paid $80 to be a game tester on an alpha state game.
For some reason stamina is only broken online. Against the computer I struggle to manage my stamina where as when I play online I don't even have to think about it.
@@ItskjXiiI definitely wouldn't say way better lol, jus went from nonstop body uppercuts to a more general spam of power punches, ur rewarded for playing without skill, and punished for being good just like in early access. When it was early access people would say "it's early access when it's released it will be fixed" now it's released people are saying it just released give it time.. theyve had these problems for more than a year and haven't fixed em, why would i uave faith they ever will? They supposedly fixed stamina, which not only is it not fixed but now there's only 8 rounds.. and from what I've heard the ghost punches can't be fixed cause they run p2p, they dont have actual servers.
@@jacobjackson2787 I think they needed to recoup some type of funds to maybe develop the game more. I hope it gets better. I’m done playing it for now though
I like how you addressed the real issue with the power punches towards the end. The problem is on top of absolutely minimal stamina drain for power punches it’s the incentive that you can get a stun easier with a power punch than you can landing a clean counter. The issue was never the tracking because when you throw out regular punches like the left hook on someone at certain distances the animation comes out incredibly awkward and could never land and that’s just one example
Y’all capping the game is fully ready . Y’all just don’t know how to play I’ve watched many ppl beat these power punch spammers . You just ass in the game gang
@@Kinddays_rvpeople like you are the reason this game will die because instead of being honest you wanna bullshit and act like there’s some “skill gap” skill gap when you land shots not even throwing a punch or from across the ring? Is that skill?
I think at a certain percentage of stamina if big whiffing animations were implemented that throw the spammers balance off when the miss those big punches and cause x2 stamina loss plus make them x2 more likely to be stunned would clear this up real quick
I think it's more of a player problem than a Game problem. People find exploits in every game especially Madden and College football but you find those who genuinely play the game the way it should be played. Not saying it shouldn't be addressed but it won't change the fact that there are bums out here who will do ANYTHING to win. It's in every competitive game, not just this one. I don't spam or any of that, but it's the nature of online gaming now unfortunately.
Definitely right about this. They need to punish those misses more. And the body shots. I throw so much of those body shots to power spammers and it barely does anything to them
i played like 8-10 games when it came out and ngl i felt this immediately and the thing that sucks thw most is the infinite power punching AND the fact that u can get stunned now and u cant move or block and the opponent can spam 4-6 power punches at full speed and full strength we early access pc players are EXTREMELY lucky, the game we played is 100x better than the game that came out rn but i feel like with patches they can match and surpass the early access
Completely agree, seen this instantly even in early access especially with Wilder and Frazier. Constant power punching spams and no stamina loss or barely. Or a big issue is you set up a perfect counter punch and just somehow many punches are pulled and refuse to extend. Already regretting buying it again for console.
In career mode no matter how you fight the computer will never have less stamina than you sometimes there stamina doesn't go down at all during a 12 round fight which is ridiculous.
If you aren’t aware by now, the rounds don’t go past 8 because the 9th round is glitched. Once you get to round 9, the round never ends. Incredible, right? 🤦🏽♂️
Oh boy I am glad you touched base on the playstyle ppl using. The best tactic i found is using a guy with more reach so you can play the distance more in your favor. Especially the ghost punches and stamina needs to be fixed. Much respect to your overview.
The devs need to lace up some gloves themselves and do some boxing, they'd quickly realize how fkin silly some of these mistakes are. We're so close to a great boxing game. Hope they get it together.
when he’s leaning back, hit him with a body shot you also have the same ability he does. One thing I will agree with you on is the people quitting and the match not counting. That being said season one hasn’t started yet pretty sure they will address that issue as it’s a big one.
I noticed that doctor stoppages happen way too often for me. On my career 5 out of my first 10 fights ended in round 3-5 due to either cuts or swelling smh
I just played 12 unranked heavyweight matches. You are 50% correct with the punches. Normal punches have been corrected, but power punches still have strong tracking for 4 out of the 5 evasive inputs. #1. Head movement. Still tracks #2. Lunges. Still tracks #3. Slips. Still tracks #4. Dodge/side-steps still tracks The only one it will not fully track is manual lateral movement opposite side of the punch. Even then, they can still spam 3-4 power shots that will still hit if you try to counter. I don't even like playing online because you still cannot inside fight. The only way to have a small chance at winning is to take 1 big power punch to throw 3-4 normal punches to the body or head.. The game is tiring. They made it worse somehow. They need to reduce the tracking on the powershots. The powershots wouldn't be so bad if they made the fighters slow down when their stamina is low. Got ko'd by a 20% stamina Ali while playing with a 80% stamina Frazier. His hands and combos were still much faster than mine.. ALL THAT BODYWORK WASTED!! TIME WASTED
The stamina and power can be fixed with options menu and add sliders to attributes like stamina and power the way fight night did. They have options of the accuracy for def and off. Fighter toughness and damage. Then you can set each boxer personal settings like their punching and fighting style. Sliders for punch output by the AI.
Honestly this is game breaking if its not patched DAY 1! This stamina issue will determine if this game fails or succeeds nobody should be throwing nonstop power punches with no consequences to health
You didn’t lie 1 time. I was so excited to box online after so long i didn’t wanna complain but anyone trying to box has a good chance to lose. I don’t understand these type of issues after taking this long to release.
13:14 I agree, it’s like landing a power punch counts as 2 punches on the judge’s scorecard. I knew there would be issues since they didn’t let people test out this update before full release
Attack the game as much as you want. They got extra funding, blew it on scanning and marketing, didn't fix the fundamental issues of the game, and introduced more issues. They cant even fix the netcode, they cant introduce rollback, they're on unity. The game is fucked. Anyone that's played since the beginning of early access knows how bad they are as a dev team. I don't think it's that they don't listen, I don't think they're skilled enough to fix it, as the core base of the game is broken.
Damn that’s what happened ? Wish they could have used that money to bring in more programmers to improve the quality of the game. But I still love how it plays OFFLINE ( I’m basically an offline player). And I do like the gameplay. But there’s still a big number of problems that need to be solved
For some odd reason I was able to box my opponents during the early access on PC wasn’t playing a lot but was able get 15-4 record when I was playing. Now I’m outboxing my opponents and losing because of this bs power punching. Before you couldn’t spam punches because you’d tire out quick now it’s like the online opponent has stamina off. Offline the game is decent but I’ve see a lot issues that they really didn’t fix just added new sounds and animations and adjust the ai aggression in offline. It’s already bad enough they charged people $70+ for a game with a bland career mode but to have a online matches be unbearable to play due to spammers weird flash knockouts, ghost punches, horrible targeting system, No clinching, blocking seems to have no affect only when I’m about to get knocked tf out😂
If they implement the same concept of patching that is common in the FGC (like Tekken.. SF..). The 1.0 version won’t be anything related to the game in a few months. There’s a lot of work involved after the release of any competitive game.. SC has gold in their hands and they know it. I have high hopes for Undisputed as a competitive game even with the problems that are present right now
Main issues when someone is leaving the game you don't get the win and you're getting a penalty. And even when the punch didn't reach you it still catches you with damage. So damn annoying
You made a lot of excellent points. I’m trying to play this game with a boxing mindset and it’s frustrating af trying to get wins against this play style.
I don’t understand why these issues haven’t been fixed. There have been so many problems since early access. perhaps the development team is too small.
Hey pry. Don’t know if you know about it but hold the left trigger while blocking covers the head more than the regular block at the expense of movement. But allows you to catch and shoot these power shots a lot better
This is why I haven't even played online. This was the same problem with Fight Night Champion before the patch. All power shots for every shot and their stamina doesn't go down.
Nothing but fax spit in this video. 8 rd ranked fights is criminal especially given the fact stamina is broken. I’m sure they are going to patch a lot. Also the quitting in ranked matches not being recorded is CRAZY. Records mean nothing right now you can just quit when you lose.
They should make initial power shots use a lot more stamina and base the use of stamina on momentum for power punches. E.g. less stamina used if the power punch is used mid combo and maybe even a little less if it’s at the end.
You exactly correct hopefully they can get ahold of this video. Power punches need a big adjustment especially stamina. And regular punches you can barely get a rock or stun with them.
5:39 I really thought the tracking was diminished from the ps5 preview fights I saw. It really looked like stepping into angles, changing punch lanes would actually matter. It also seems impossible to slip power punches on the inside. Sometimes weaving under the hooks work, but the guard is so transparent that getting clipped is a huge risk. There also seems to be a bug where getting caught in weave sometimes completely freezes you for 2 whole ass seconds
I ran into a guy like that earlier. I was SRL and he was Sergio Martinez. Sergio is strong! I actually beat the guy doing this same tactic. I pretty much used the rock, paper, scissors game plan. I mix up those game plans based on what they're doing. The thing about using that game plan is sometimes it's hard to get in and out clean because they'll spam using the buttons. I use stick. Punch offsetting does seem like it could be better. It seems like one needs to master those slipping and other button techniques to get the clean counter to stop all of the reckless tactics. One needs to make their own training regimen to improve those skills. I think Canelo's 92 defence high guard allows punches through more than it should. I get what you're saying about just using regular movement. The dash ➡️RB move is necessary.
Complaining? Nah brother you’re telling the truth. It’s seems like these spamming scrubs just emerged this morning. I swear I was happy playing this Game. I was Feeling good about my 25-2 record (Unrank) until I ran into this player. Now with your permission I would love to send a link in the comment section so you guys can check this dude out. I swear he wasn’t just spamming but he had to been cheating. He threw power punches None stop, in combination with, and he was pretty damn fast. He was 60-5. It got so ridiculous that I just closed the game and decided to not play for a bit until the issue is fixed. I’m not an AI guy, I get extremely bored fighting AI. I love to learn by fighting other players but he was not the only foo fighting this way. After my match with him, I kept getting match after match with these terrible fighters. So you are 100 percent correct. The judges are terrible in this game. I lost rounds where I stunned my opponent multiple times. Please use your voice with The developers brother
POWERHOOK spamming could easily be fixed if power hooks could be punished with a consistent HEAD MOVEMENT system... If I throw 2-3 POWERHOOKS back to back there should be a RELIABLE HEAD MOVEMENT SYSTEM that lets you PUNISH my spamming with ease. That fixes that problem .. And I like to OUTBOX so for me the TRACKING for the straight punches is lacking.. particularly the straight to the body & straight right up top .. the jab is ok. Also, if you set up the HOOK with a couple jabs the TRACKING for the hook should be accurate . If you just out here spamming hooks the tracking should be low .. jabs should be used to make the other punches more ACCURATE TRACK WISE .. There's certain boxing laws/mechanics that aren't in place that makes this game the way it is ..
Thank you. The amount of times I slip power hooks, and throw one back, and nothing happens, but a few more wild throws and the poor head system, I get caught and stunned right away lol
Bro I just played online for the first time, it’s disgusting, every game I have been put against wilder spamming power punches and games where my stamina has been fully drained after throwing a single jab?!!??!?? LIKE WTF!????
Power punching with no consequences in the later rounds is crazy work lol. I know a certain PC player who may or may not have used cheats in EA, figured out this power punching exploit vr vr early lol
Yeah that's another thing I realized last night. I would play with a lower overall character against a higher overall just to see if it's about boxing or the overall. I played against the same guy but with a 79 overall and a 90 overall and attempted to box the same way. Needless to say the 90 overall was obviously better but still why even have different overalls or even use a lower overall if it puts you at a disadvantage. I think there shouldn't be any overall for the characters I think everybody should feel the same level with the only thing that separate them are their body like height and weight and arm length
Your not complaining ts is egregious. This game has so much potential all they have to do is tweak some things. Main punches need to do a lot more damage so that people can stop being power merchants. Head movement needs to be better as well. And I get glitched and can’t move my fighter multiple times in the ring and it allows me to be hit by power shots. The stamina is terrible especially if you’re stepping out of the way and they’re spamming these power punches. They should be on an oxygen machine for missing so many power punches.
Mannnn ive been saying this for so long but the biggest issue is the game not having any real vulnerability system. So the regular punches dont EVER feel impactful or dangerous unless you get nothing but counters which can only be registered after your opponent misses or you land 15 headshots in a row. This pushes everyone to use the only punches capable of damaging their opponent which is the power punches.
They fixed this but it's up to YOU as a boxer as to whether you will stay calm and take advantage of the openings or succumb to the "pressure " I have a video videos up prooving it's possible.
Just got this game yesterday, The way everyone just throws power punches and no jabs is ridiculous. Everyone leans back and power hooks out of it for cheese
I FEEL EXPLOITED BECAUSE I WAS SO DESPERATE FOR A BOXING GAME? SCI COULD HAVE JUST BE HONEST ABOUT US GETTING A HALF DONE PRODUCT, ALSO WHAT’S WRONG WITH THEM JUST TAKING SOME THINGS FNC DID REALLY WELL LIKE KEEPING OUR BOXER ON THE LEFT SIDE ONLINE, IN FNC BOTH PLAYERS STAYED ON THE LEFT SIDE WITH NO PROBLEMS! WHEN I AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT FEELS AWKWARD, OFFLINE ITS COOL BUT NOT ONLINE! AND THAT MINI GET UP GAME DOES NOT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE THEY CAN DO AWAY WITH THAT CRAP? OVERALL JUST TAKE SOME THINGS FROM FNC UNTIL THEY GET IT TOGETHER IS MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO BRO!
I'm definitely waiting a few months before I get this game. I learnt my lesson with the last UFC game. In a few months the big issues should be fixed and it will be cheaper as well. Win win!
Thank god u say the same thing as me. I said this from the say I started playing it , it's absolutely ridiculous waited so long for a boxing game to see this casual garbage ! I almost broke my controller 3 times going through this crap. This ain't complaining this is Facts it needs to be fixed asap. Ranked needs to also take these classic boxers out aswel keep us with up to date boxers cus everyone gonna always pick the highest rated. Keep it boxing ... and the stamina is a joke I don't no if the ppl that made this really sat in there chairs and said yes this is the one. But someone needs to get fired
I love this game. But I do agree with everything you said. Also the top fighters leave the match when they lose. When that happens you don’t get the win.
Im a massive boxing fan and have been waiting for a good boxing game for years and sadly with the state of the game on release im still waiting. And i gotta say i knew it would be like this. People always find cheap ways to win and they’ve done that here. Online is frustrating coz of the fucked power spam and shite stamina drain. Also i play a friend regularly and he doesn’t so much spam the power shots but in most fights i outbox him , slip and move, set him up , use angles and distance but it makes no difference 🤷🏻♂️ flash knockdowns that are not earned and shit scoring system. And dont get me started on fighting Wilder …. Steel city have seen him fight right ??? Yeah he can hit but his footwork and coordination are laughable. Please fix this fast
Everytime they put 1 player who's throwing power punches. In previous game was Frost. Who played knows how it was. Calm, focus and tactic. Maybe after few hours you will find a way to finish him
Im a casual but my biggest issue is stamina. Its ridiculous body shots are practically worthless to try and drain stamina every time i do body shots aomehow im left with less stamina then the other person.
You are not complaining, this is pure frustration. And i am frustrated cause i am with this game from first day. And i am frustrated cause this project have devs that took bite that they cant chew. Competitive online games are hard to balance, and fighting games are even harder. And this guys dont have a fcking idea what are they doing.
Have the same problem but i noticed you can actually counter those power shots with body punches and completely deplete there stamina but you need the 12 rounds to work by round 4 there stamina is 50% if you focus on body work
I bought the game on day one of the early access. It was a rollercoaster, but there were times I was having fun. But this right now it feels far worse than early access, I don't get the feet movement, it's like I have broken gamepad, you hold stick down and sometimes your player is barely moving, everything so slow, inconsistent, sluggish, just no satisfaction at all in playing. The only thing that got better is the punches, they now feel faster and dangerous but they don't deal any damage hahaha, feeling of punches are better but everything else far worse. You land like 5 right hook power punches in a row to guys face and nothing happens, they dont bleed, dont have a swelling, they dont drop. It's just broken. But mostly disappointed that game don't have that satisfying feeling anymore that occasionally happen in early acces. Back than I used to say man, they are so close to got it right and now they just went completely south with everything
How many people are actually on the developing team ? Do you know ? I heard this was a small company , I really wish they can bring in some help and just have some seasoned programmers help them correcting this shit and implementing the proper things to bring this game to the next level
Good video. I think it should be 10 or 12 rounds. 10 for regular fights and 12 for fight that hold a belt. As far as the power punches it’s a stamina issue. If you’re exploiting the game like this you should get penalized heavily with fatigue. The devs will this ASAP with the next patch and I also believe they will up the rounds.
Second comment, if we could utilize the slip and lean better, make it more fluid with a different mapping and those haymakers could stay. Because if you can catch a clean counter haymaker it hurts them bad. They’d stop. But we can’t dodge it properly 🤷🏼♂️ I don’t mind that crazy shit. I think it’s realistic. They def need to nerf the stamina cost from it tho so it’s more punishing to box that way. If they did that, it would make the simulation of it real. One players punching himself out or catching lucky clean shots. The other can weather the storm and box
It’s so unrealistic seeing someone whiff so many shots over and over and not be punished very badly stamina wise. Also 8 rounds in ranked makes no sense at all to me because some people like to take fights to decision and you shouldn’t decide how people should play and just let them play their own way. Also I think there’s a problem with online matches where what you’re seeing on your screen isn’t the same as what your opponent sees on their screen hence the random shots that land from across the ring or random punch audio that you’ll hear when no one’s thrown a punch. I’ve preordered the game and will be playing it on full release and do have trust and hope that they’ll get around to making these changes because the game will just be a better experience for the majority of players. Stamina depletion on missed power shots needs be drastically improved and ranked needs to be 12 rounds as a standard. Those two changes would be great! 💯
Bruh u speaking all facts I was beating a dude so bad he was bloody n all but they was giving him the rounds just cz he had power hits but the man was missin so many punches
Bro its such a shame they let this happen, I really wanted the release to be something great, but it feels worse than the early access versions. I've only had 4 ranked fights and they all have gone this way with the opponent throwing hundreds of power punches. I don't think they will fix it though, RIP Undisputed.
Anyone tryna play this and box for real is gonna have a hard time. The power punching spamming and ghost punching is crazy online
Wilder power hooks is bothering me a lot so I did it too and it was remarkable that even if youre dumb in this game you can win with wilder. 10-1 and I was doing great enjoying and was smooth using my Larry Holmes , but then 4 straight Wilder users ruined it for me.
@@Frostykid94ong bro nothin but Wilders on Heavyweight Ranked. Been playing more Middleweight and it’s been more enjoyable and more technical matches
Bruh I forgot to mention that if ghost punching us getting hit while completely out of range then yea that's terrible I thought it was my internet connection but im getting 426 mbps
I tried online for the first time today and I got all of this happen to me loooooooooooooool Crazy Crazy...
I tried to box with Josh Taylor against Crawford I kept getting hit with ghost punches and I duck one hook another fast one coming
I don’t understand how people will spend 80 dollars to spam like that. Especially after there’s been no boxing games recently. How are they having fun
They are dumb
PS3 fight night champion still bumping but that game has its negatives too
When Winning by any means is life lol
they having fun cheesing cus they ass an they js wanna win lmao
I'll be honest. I don't own this game and haven't played a boxing game and a long time. The last time I played I was 14 or 15, so I loved spamming weird combinations that broke the game. It could just be the age of the users lmao
OVER 300 POWER PUNCHES AND NOT GASSED?! HUHHH
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Crazy , I’m ok with the power punches but it has to come at a cost
The thing that gets me is that is a problem the same problem that almost all sports fighting games have why is it all of a sudden and issue it's even worse in ufc 5 still and it's been out forever in fact ufc is worse because it's very uneven like izzy has the speed of a fly weght and the chin of a god with the power of mike tyson and he never gets tired I just don't see the stamina as an issue as much as things like how shity south paws feel like usyc feels like shit he's one of the best in the world he should feel amazing and ali has way too much power ali was never a one punch ko guy he was a volume puncher he only knocked one person out cold ever the games has him way broken
If they don’t fix that within the next week this game is as good as dead to me.
Bro I can send you ss of over 500 thrown & dudes making it to decision with 30% stamina
A lot of people are complaining about the power punches but they aren't seeing the bigger picture. The real issue is the current stamina model.
: Stamina drainage needs to be reflected more in what a fighter is capable of.
As stamina drains, punches should slow, be weaker and less accurate.
When stamina is depleted a lot, multi punch combos should be very difficult.
Power punches should cause a lot of damage. You just shouldn't be able to throw 500 per fight. 🤣
Also, power punches should drain stamina at a much faster rate than speed punches.
: When Stamina is corrected, punch power will actually need to be increased for a more realistic presentation, otherwise, most fights will just go the distance. Speed punches will need a larger boost while power punches only need a small increase.
This point is only relevant though, if the stamina is fixed.
THIS
I hope a scary ghost haunts the Devs but instead of horror stuff it's just writing fixes like these on their walls, maybe a lil ghost punch here or there keep em on their toes, they've had sooo long to get this right how how how are the basics so fumbly
We already had slow punches, it was one of the weirdest things to play with and against.
If you hadn't see your bar and launched punch by accident, it would take 2s to windup, but 2 problems occured :
1. You can't stop it, meaning your error let the other one punch 4, 5, 6 times, and after the animation finishes (finally) you get another one which is a counter, obviously, you're KD.
2. As slow as a punch can be, it will still hit, meaning you still have to dodge it, cause sometimes, it's the famous one that was enough to knock you down, and dodging something THAT slow, can be even harder.
I won't say you're wrong completely, because if you watch the Bowe vs Holyfield trilogy fights, they were both dead tired and still winging bombs that had a great bit of speed left on them.
Balancing Stamina with Power and Speed has to be more than just "less stamina = low power and slow punches".
what u mean i think its fair they just need to make the penalty harder with spamming punches if u get caught. some real fights get 1000 punches per fight wdym? the beta showed power punches are useless coz its slow as hell
I’m so glad I been watching ppl playing ranked and breaking down the shenanigans because I’m tryna really box and not finna play ranked until they fix the stamina and touch up the netcode for online (ranked) mode. It feels good to study your opponent and adapt to a style to beat them but when they able to just spam all these power shots or excessive punches and stamina not dropping as fast for higher rated fighters is insane.
Ppl really tryna spam and expect to win every match but before they lose they quit to avoid the loss on their record and prevent you from getting the win with the ranked points is just another reason to not play ranked until this issue is also addressed. I hope the Devs listen to the vital feedback from the community and fix it for the overall health and longevity of this game.
Facts I’m not playing online til they patch some issues up
Aftwr preseason they will reset records again anyways, its in season 0 right now
I agree 100%
Its more than just power punching. Other problems are:
1)When you're too close to the opponent you can't back away. You get glued together unable to move backwards.
2)Punches still miss when right in front of the opponent for no reason.
3) Input delay, even in offline. When pressing inputs there is a small delay before it happens on the screen.
4) horrible head movement and leaning. Leaning and weaving with L Trigger is basically useless, all punches still track and hit you. The L3 click with direction Slipping isn't very good either and is far too brief. Overall head movement was better in previous boxing games.
5) ghost punches online.
You nailed this
Yeah I'm sick of throwing a straight and apparently the likes of Muhammad Ali can't hit an opponent who's stood still lol
I just want my money back 😂.
Slipping and head movement needs to be buffed. I cant slip to the outside of a jab for shit, despite having what should be perfect timing. Its fucking annoying. Power shot spammers are ruinning rampant rn to. I think whiffed power shots need to drain hella stamina, and they need to buff the jab or atleast the power jab to where you can interrupt attempted power shots. Like my stiff arm jab shouldnt perfectly smack you on the dome while youre winding and loading up a huge punch, amd have zero intteruption or counter to it. Your ass shouldnt be able to throw the punch when youre getting pieced up. Power shots just need to be a bit more unsafe to use imo
It drains hella stamina, but you regen so quick it doesn't matter that much.
AI actually manage to stop power punches quite consistently and dodge every punch you could try to do, but mimicking them is close to impossible so it's annoying.
Absolutely broken too short of a time window for it to be effective
Literally
Facts bro
@@almisernot really. It doesn’t drain much until you throw multiple power shots in a row, and even then, the speed and power don’t drop much if at all until it’s completely empty so effectively it doesn’t drain stamina, just the bar that represents how much SHOULD be draining
I love how the players who play like this, rockem sockem robots shit against the ropes, are seriously trying to say "yall just dont know boxing" lmao
😂
Some ways I've lost online ranked matches
- Got hit with 3 ghost power punches from across the ring away
- KO'ed by Deyonte Wilder in the 8th round with Ali after 7-0 in each round. Ghost power hook that reached me even though I leaned back and it was a instant KO (no chance to even try to beat the count) he had 34% stam at the end while I was at 76%.
I've also had about 5 wins taken away because opponents quit during the get up animation so it didn't count the wins. Then I had about 4 matches that the server crashed and booted me to the main screen and I get a notification asking me to please stop quitting matches or I'll be placed in a lower priority server with other players the "quit". Such bullshit
Same to all of this
😂 shits ridiculous have u seen the the ghosts knockdowns
2024 and they can’t fix this still? Bro come on FNC is a decade old!
I was excited about this game but watching this and reading the comments I’d say the Devs know absolutely nothing about the sweet science. Such a shame it’s not realistic. Stamina is the main key. And 8 rounds is pathetic!!!
THIS JUST HAPPENED TO ME 😂 CRAZY YOU WROTE THE WILDER SPECIFICALLY COMMENT.. dam near broke the console
Wanting a boxing game for a decade just to cheese and spam in it is crazy work
It sure is
Blame the players not the devs ..gamers ruin every competitive game that they touch.😂
Fight Night Champion had the same spammers. You have to realize that most of the player base doesn't watch real boxing, and some are young fighting game fans. Just like in any sports game, people will always find the Meta and cheese just to get wins. Madden, NBA 2k, Fifa, etc. all have the same spammers and cheesers.
That's why this version of the game needed to be tested through beta, at least a month b4 release, to allow the public to break the game, that some have found in 1 day, that the devs overlooked.
@@professor3138 spammers will always exist but a good game would reduce and discourage that type of play because it’s not successful.
It's not hard to just let people select 8 12 15 rounds if you dont want to fight 12 rounds pick 8. The devs need to sort this out give us more options
Having that option over just 8 rounds flat would be nice but I think just 12 rounds flat instead of 8 would be better because you’d have increased que times with people matching if there was multiple choices of rounds. Still I wouldn’t mind either suggestion!
And the accelerated clock , like damn I wanna play with regular time not everyone wants a faster pace game
They will man....damn
The devs didn't even let us change the buttons individually, I'd like to have my body modifier in R2, but I just can't do it :/
@marioarthur3277 ye I'd like that option. Seems strange it been on steam for 2 years and these issues haven't been resolved
it’s up to big streamers to expose lazy game play development. They want 80 dollars for absolute dog shite. EXPOSE THEM PLEASE
Yes please. I thought the studio being the underdog would actually help them make a better game then ea could, but god damn they messed up badly. First time I've ever wanted to refund a game
The power punches are out of control no real person can throw so many power punches and not get tired.
Got look up the numbers mate
I got into the Early Access three days prior to the official release and I prefer the gameplay from the early access. The fact that Rank is 8 rounds goes away from the message that the studio delivered prior to launch which was to provide a genuine boxing experience.
so glad someone said this.
Just got it. Spamming power hooks trumps absolutley everything. Tried playing patiently and using range with jabs and crosses as tyson fury, opponent is always wilder and always spamming power hooks. Youd think landing a clean jab or cross would interupt their power hook... NO, never and even if you block it it still rocks you 😂
Somebody spams power shots on me they will lose my body shots. Trump any power shot just move sideways and once he throws the power shot hit him with a body hook power.
@@gabes738 nice IL try it
It’s so hard to just have a pure boxing match in this game it’s more rock em sock em robots
Bro I lost to someone earlier, he was RJJ and I was Sergio Martinez I was outboxing pretty well and tearing his body up to the point where his character was gasping for air in the 7th and he knocked me out with a power shot. My stamina was in the 79% his was 28%. I was so mad
Don’t matter if ppl think ur complaining it’s stuff that needs a fix
I've been saying this since PC version dropped and I'll say it again. This game is bad, it's fun, but it's a bad game fundamentally. It has the framework of boxing mechanics but none of the systems feed in to eachother in a logical or sim way and many of the mechanics including the actual punches are simply broken or unpolished with no depth. People love to say this game is more sim than FNC but it's really not. If you are actually good at FNC you know that stamina management is extremely important and it effects everything in the fight. Spamming leads to vulnerability later in the fight. One of the most common match ups in FNC was rocky Marciano vs Mike Tyson because it was a perfect example of early power fighter vs tough durable fighter. Mike has all the speed, power, reflex advantages so he can do damage early and outnpoint rocky but rocky is super tough and has the best cardio so it would always be a chess match because both fighters could approach each round differently depending on the situation. Does Tyson try to out point the whole fight and risk not doing enough damage to hold rocky at bay in the later rounds ? Does Tyson just go full aggro out the gate so he can avoid later rounds and risk being gassed and over taken by round 5 or 6 ? There was REAL sim strategies in FNC and this game severely lacks that. I honestly think this game is like a tech demo with a bunch of boxing features but very little depth to the overall package, quality games are built in a way where everything has a weakness or a counter and this game does not have that because most things are broken and are just in the game to mimic boxing. Deontay can throw 5 left hooks within 1 second in this game.... and to even throw a straight punch it takes much longer than it takes him to throw those 5 hooks.... there's no logic behind that. The developers of this game don't actually think about how the game should work and what should counter what, they just made boxers, made boxing mechanics, threw them together without fine tuning and stitching them together properly and put it up for sale. Anyone who says this game is SIM or better than fight night either hasn't played it enough or is just coping extremely hard. It is fun, but it ain't sim at all.
Absolutely agree. I paid for the game so I hope it goes towards better development. Fight night champion is leagues better gameplay wise in every facet. You can even make FNC more sim by turning off the extra graphical flashes from counters. FNC has its abusable animations which can be game breaking (chicken wing straight and side step uppercuts), but at least I can see who the other person is picking before the fight for fun matchups. The day 1 patch hasn't dropped yet, but as of this moment undisputed is way below my expectations. Honestly, the developers should be ashamed for releasing the game in this state. I paid $80 to be a game tester on an alpha state game.
For some reason stamina is only broken online. Against the computer I struggle to manage my stamina where as when I play online I don't even have to think about it.
After playing this game it’s hard to believe they will be able to fix all of these issues
It would have been fixed from the last test version to this release.
the game good tho, let’s chill and have hope, its way better than that early access shit
@@ItskjXiiI definitely wouldn't say way better lol, jus went from nonstop body uppercuts to a more general spam of power punches, ur rewarded for playing without skill, and punished for being good just like in early access. When it was early access people would say "it's early access when it's released it will be fixed" now it's released people are saying it just released give it time.. theyve had these problems for more than a year and haven't fixed em, why would i uave faith they ever will? They supposedly fixed stamina, which not only is it not fixed but now there's only 8 rounds.. and from what I've heard the ghost punches can't be fixed cause they run p2p, they dont have actual servers.
@@HotRod737 the ghost punches have made the little hope I had disappear
@@jacobjackson2787 I think they needed to recoup some type of funds to maybe develop the game more. I hope it gets better. I’m done playing it for now though
I like how you addressed the real issue with the power punches towards the end. The problem is on top of absolutely minimal stamina drain for power punches it’s the incentive that you can get a stun easier with a power punch than you can landing a clean counter. The issue was never the tracking because when you throw out regular punches like the left hook on someone at certain distances the animation comes out incredibly awkward and could never land and that’s just one example
Its so frustrating that people who have no idea how to box can beat you just like this.
Let’s be real, this game was not ready for a full release
facts this is barely a beta version
Y’all capping the game is fully ready . Y’all just don’t know how to play I’ve watched many ppl beat these power punch spammers . You just ass in the game gang
Get a grip @@Kinddays_rvyou're blind
@Kinddays_rv unless your one of these rats
@@Kinddays_rvpeople like you are the reason this game will die because instead of being honest you wanna bullshit and act like there’s some “skill gap” skill gap when you land shots not even throwing a punch or from across the ring? Is that skill?
I think at a certain percentage of stamina if big whiffing animations were implemented that throw the spammers balance off when the miss those big punches and cause x2 stamina loss plus make them x2 more likely to be stunned would clear this up real quick
That’s what ea did and it works u cannot spam overhands in ufc 5 u gotta actually play the game
Aint it supposed to be like this in early access? Did the dev tweak this or what?
I think it's more of a player problem than a Game problem. People find exploits in every game especially Madden and College football but you find those who genuinely play the game the way it should be played. Not saying it shouldn't be addressed but it won't change the fact that there are bums out here who will do ANYTHING to win. It's in every competitive game, not just this one. I don't spam or any of that, but it's the nature of online gaming now unfortunately.
Sure people will try but cheese this stinky an obvious is deffo a game problem/developer problem pain pain pain
Definitely right about this. They need to punish those misses more. And the body shots. I throw so much of those body shots to power spammers and it barely does anything to them
i played like 8-10 games when it came out and ngl i felt this immediately and the thing that sucks thw most is the infinite power punching AND the fact that u can get stunned now and u cant move or block and the opponent can spam 4-6 power punches at full speed and full strength
we early access pc players are EXTREMELY lucky, the game we played is 100x better than the game that came out rn but i feel like with patches they can match and surpass the early access
Whoa this is disgusting. Not what I wanna see the day before I get the game. Needs to be addressed ASAP.
Game sucks lol
It's the master of disaster lol
Completely agree, seen this instantly even in early access especially with Wilder and Frazier. Constant power punching spams and no stamina loss or barely. Or a big issue is you set up a perfect counter punch and just somehow many punches are pulled and refuse to extend. Already regretting buying it again for console.
In career mode no matter how you fight the computer will never have less stamina than you sometimes there stamina doesn't go down at all during a 12 round fight which is ridiculous.
Go for body shots bro. I beat Bruno for the title in career mode and went for body shots for 1st 3-4 rounds to lower stamina
@@KRClipzz body shots don't take down stamina how it should
The lack of character variety, shortness of the matches, and spamming had me cool of ranked after a good 6-7 matches.
I 100% agree on absolutely everything you said no glazing none of that 200+ power shots is not realistic 😂 let’s keep it a stack
They gotta nerf canelo too
Nah man they gotta nerf wilder.
If you aren’t aware by now, the rounds don’t go past 8 because the 9th round is glitched. Once you get to round 9, the round never ends. Incredible, right? 🤦🏽♂️
Wait really? I heard you have to play ranked or something to unlock 10,12 rounds
lmao i havent seen this yet but i got the same bug in the 3 round tourney you start in career mode 😂 so dissapointing bro
Sounds like an unfinished game to me.😂😂
Oh boy I am glad you touched base on the playstyle ppl using. The best tactic i found is using a guy with more reach so you can play the distance more in your favor. Especially the ghost punches and stamina needs to be fixed. Much respect to your overview.
The devs need to lace up some gloves themselves and do some boxing, they'd quickly realize how fkin silly some of these mistakes are. We're so close to a great boxing game. Hope they get it together.
when he’s leaning back, hit him with a body shot you also have the same ability he does. One thing I will agree with you on is the people quitting and the match not counting. That being said season one hasn’t started yet pretty sure they will address that issue as it’s a big one.
I noticed that doctor stoppages happen way too often for me. On my career 5 out of my first 10 fights ended in round 3-5 due to either cuts or swelling smh
I just played 12 unranked heavyweight matches. You are 50% correct with the punches. Normal punches have been corrected, but power punches still have strong tracking for 4 out of the 5 evasive inputs.
#1. Head movement. Still tracks
#2. Lunges. Still tracks
#3. Slips. Still tracks
#4. Dodge/side-steps still tracks
The only one it will not fully track is manual lateral movement opposite side of the punch. Even then, they can still spam 3-4 power shots that will still hit if you try to counter. I don't even like playing online because you still cannot inside fight. The only way to have a small chance at winning is to take 1 big power punch to throw 3-4 normal punches to the body or head.. The game is tiring. They made it worse somehow. They need to reduce the tracking on the powershots.
The powershots wouldn't be so bad if they made the fighters slow down when their stamina is low. Got ko'd by a 20% stamina Ali while playing with a 80% stamina Frazier. His hands and combos were still much faster than mine.. ALL THAT BODYWORK WASTED!! TIME WASTED
The stamina and power can be fixed with options menu and add sliders to attributes like stamina and power the way fight night did. They have options of the accuracy for def and off. Fighter toughness and damage. Then you can set each boxer personal settings like their punching and fighting style. Sliders for punch output by the AI.
Honestly this is game breaking if its not patched DAY 1! This stamina issue will determine if this game fails or succeeds nobody should be throwing nonstop power punches with no consequences to health
You didn’t lie 1 time. I was so excited to box online after so long i didn’t wanna complain but anyone trying to box has a good chance to lose. I don’t understand these type of issues after taking this long to release.
13:14 I agree, it’s like landing a power punch counts as 2 punches on the judge’s scorecard. I knew there would be issues since they didn’t let people test out this update before full release
Attack the game as much as you want. They got extra funding, blew it on scanning and marketing, didn't fix the fundamental issues of the game, and introduced more issues. They cant even fix the netcode, they cant introduce rollback, they're on unity. The game is fucked. Anyone that's played since the beginning of early access knows how bad they are as a dev team. I don't think it's that they don't listen, I don't think they're skilled enough to fix it, as the core base of the game is broken.
Damn that’s what happened ? Wish they could have used that money to bring in more programmers to improve the quality of the game. But I still love how it plays OFFLINE ( I’m basically an offline player). And I do like the gameplay. But there’s still a big number of problems that need to be solved
I agree. This game has looked terrible from the beginning and it's only gotten worse.
For some odd reason I was able to box my opponents during the early access on PC wasn’t playing a lot but was able get 15-4 record when I was playing. Now I’m outboxing my opponents and losing because of this bs power punching. Before you couldn’t spam punches because you’d tire out quick now it’s like the online opponent has stamina off. Offline the game is decent but I’ve see a lot issues that they really didn’t fix just added new sounds and animations and adjust the ai aggression in offline. It’s already bad enough they charged people $70+ for a game with a bland career mode but to have a online matches be unbearable to play due to spammers weird flash knockouts, ghost punches, horrible targeting system, No clinching, blocking seems to have no affect only when I’m about to get knocked tf out😂
If they implement the same concept of patching that is common in the FGC (like Tekken.. SF..). The 1.0 version won’t be anything related to the game in a few months.
There’s a lot of work involved after the release of any competitive game.. SC has gold in their hands and they know it.
I have high hopes for Undisputed as a competitive game even with the problems that are present right now
Main issues when someone is leaving the game you don't get the win and you're getting a penalty. And even when the punch didn't reach you it still catches you with damage. So damn annoying
Everything you said is right , the game is fun but there’s a lot of fixing they gotta do
You made a lot of excellent points. I’m trying to play this game with a boxing mindset and it’s frustrating af trying to get wins against this play style.
I don’t understand why these issues haven’t been fixed. There have been so many problems since early access. perhaps the development team is too small.
Hey pry. Don’t know if you know about it but hold the left trigger while blocking covers the head more than the regular block at the expense of movement. But allows you to catch and shoot these power shots a lot better
This is why I haven't even played online. This was the same problem with Fight Night Champion before the patch. All power shots for every shot and their stamina doesn't go down.
Nothing but fax spit in this video. 8 rd ranked fights is criminal especially given the fact stamina is broken. I’m sure they are going to patch a lot. Also the quitting in ranked matches not being recorded is CRAZY. Records mean nothing right now you can just quit when you lose.
They just spam power body shots and the ghost punch it crazy
They should make initial power shots use a lot more stamina and base the use of stamina on momentum for power punches.
E.g. less stamina used if the power punch is used mid combo and maybe even a little less if it’s at the end.
Interesting 🤔
You exactly correct hopefully they can get ahold of this video. Power punches need a big adjustment especially stamina. And regular punches you can barely get a rock or stun with them.
5:39 I really thought the tracking was diminished from the ps5 preview fights I saw. It really looked like stepping into angles, changing punch lanes would actually matter.
It also seems impossible to slip power punches on the inside. Sometimes weaving under the hooks work, but the guard is so transparent that getting clipped is a huge risk. There also seems to be a bug where getting caught in weave sometimes completely freezes you for 2 whole ass seconds
I ran into a guy like that earlier. I was SRL and he was Sergio Martinez. Sergio is strong!
I actually beat the guy doing this same tactic. I pretty much used the rock, paper, scissors game plan. I mix up those game plans based on what they're doing.
The thing about using that game plan is sometimes it's hard to get in and out clean because they'll spam using the buttons. I use stick.
Punch offsetting does seem like it could be better. It seems like one needs to master those slipping and other button techniques to get the clean counter to stop all of the reckless tactics.
One needs to make their own training regimen to improve those skills.
I think Canelo's 92 defence high guard allows punches through more than it should.
I get what you're saying about just using regular movement. The dash ➡️RB move is necessary.
Pry always giving us that real talk about what's going on with these games and I respect it so much
Complaining? Nah brother you’re telling the truth. It’s seems like these spamming scrubs just emerged this morning. I swear I was happy playing this Game. I was Feeling good about my 25-2 record (Unrank) until I ran into this player. Now with your permission I would love to send a link in the comment section so you guys can check this dude out. I swear he wasn’t just spamming but he had to been cheating. He threw power punches None stop, in combination with, and he was pretty damn fast. He was 60-5. It got so ridiculous that I just closed the game and decided to not play for a bit until the issue is fixed. I’m not an AI guy, I get extremely bored fighting AI. I love to learn by fighting other players but he was not the only foo fighting this way. After my match with him, I kept getting match after match with these terrible fighters. So you are 100 percent correct.
The judges are terrible in this game. I lost rounds where I stunned my opponent multiple times. Please use your voice with The developers brother
POWERHOOK spamming could easily be fixed if power hooks could be punished with a consistent HEAD MOVEMENT system...
If I throw 2-3 POWERHOOKS back to back there should be a RELIABLE HEAD MOVEMENT SYSTEM that lets you PUNISH my spamming with ease. That fixes that problem ..
And I like to OUTBOX so for me the TRACKING for the straight punches is lacking.. particularly the straight to the body & straight right up top .. the jab is ok.
Also, if you set up the HOOK with a couple jabs the TRACKING for the hook should be accurate . If you just out here spamming hooks the tracking should be low .. jabs should be used to make the other punches more ACCURATE TRACK WISE ..
There's certain boxing laws/mechanics that aren't in place that makes this game the way it is ..
Thank you. The amount of times I slip power hooks, and throw one back, and nothing happens, but a few more wild throws and the poor head system, I get caught and stunned right away lol
Bro I just played online for the first time, it’s disgusting, every game I have been put against wilder spamming power punches and games where my stamina has been fully drained after throwing a single jab?!!??!?? LIKE WTF!????
Bro I’m with you 100%. I don’t care about not loosing. I care about fair losses and fair winners. I can’t wait for tournaments in the future
Perfectly explained, I have also had this problem, crazy!!!!! I just want to box PROPERLY
Power punching with no consequences in the later rounds is crazy work lol. I know a certain PC player who may or may not have used cheats in EA, figured out this power punching exploit vr vr early lol
@Pryoxis a power punch is anything that isn't a jab in boxing im not sure if you are confusing two?! of using a r1 modifier to make it a heavier shot?
Yeah that's another thing I realized last night. I would play with a lower overall character against a higher overall just to see if it's about boxing or the overall. I played against the same guy but with a 79 overall and a 90 overall and attempted to box the same way. Needless to say the 90 overall was obviously better but still why even have different overalls or even use a lower overall if it puts you at a disadvantage. I think there shouldn't be any overall for the characters I think everybody should feel the same level with the only thing that separate them are their body like height and weight and arm length
They need to make it like Fight Night, more power punches you throw. More ur stamina will decrease.
The biggest issue is how u lose SP when someone quits and they penalize u up to 10 minutes for other quitting read that again
Your not complaining ts is egregious. This game has so much potential all they have to do is tweak some things. Main punches need to do a lot more damage so that people can stop being power merchants. Head movement needs to be better as well. And I get glitched and can’t move my fighter multiple times in the ring and it allows me to be hit by power shots. The stamina is terrible especially if you’re stepping out of the way and they’re spamming these power punches. They should be on an oxygen machine for missing so many power punches.
Mannnn ive been saying this for so long but the biggest issue is the game not having any real vulnerability system. So the regular punches dont EVER feel impactful or dangerous unless you get nothing but counters which can only be registered after your opponent misses or you land 15 headshots in a row. This pushes everyone to use the only punches capable of damaging their opponent which is the power punches.
See gayaf that dude sux just sitting back throwing all power
Almost every player on ranked are abusing the power shots! It's frustrating. I really hope they patch this ASAP.
Man you ain't complaining this is just facts. I out boxed most of my opponents but sugar ray Leonard power hooks are undefeated
They fixed this but it's up to YOU as a boxer as to whether you will stay calm and take advantage of the openings or succumb to the "pressure " I have a video videos up prooving it's possible.
Just got this game yesterday, The way everyone just throws power punches and no jabs is ridiculous. Everyone leans back and power hooks out of it for cheese
I FEEL EXPLOITED BECAUSE I WAS SO DESPERATE FOR A BOXING GAME? SCI COULD HAVE JUST BE HONEST ABOUT US GETTING A HALF DONE PRODUCT, ALSO WHAT’S WRONG WITH THEM JUST TAKING SOME THINGS FNC DID REALLY WELL LIKE KEEPING OUR BOXER ON THE LEFT SIDE ONLINE, IN FNC BOTH PLAYERS STAYED ON THE LEFT SIDE WITH NO PROBLEMS! WHEN I AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT FEELS AWKWARD, OFFLINE ITS COOL BUT NOT ONLINE! AND THAT MINI GET UP GAME DOES NOT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE THEY CAN DO AWAY WITH THAT CRAP? OVERALL JUST TAKE SOME THINGS FROM FNC UNTIL THEY GET IT TOGETHER IS MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO BRO!
I'm definitely waiting a few months before I get this game. I learnt my lesson with the last UFC game. In a few months the big issues should be fixed and it will be cheaper as well. Win win!
How would yu feel if they were to add shadowboxing and bag work into the career mode, to help like increase speed etc?
Thank god u say the same thing as me. I said this from the say I started playing it , it's absolutely ridiculous waited so long for a boxing game to see this casual garbage ! I almost broke my controller 3 times going through this crap. This ain't complaining this is Facts it needs to be fixed asap. Ranked needs to also take these classic boxers out aswel keep us with up to date boxers cus everyone gonna always pick the highest rated. Keep it boxing ... and the stamina is a joke I don't no if the ppl that made this really sat in there chairs and said yes this is the one. But someone needs to get fired
I love this game. But I do agree with everything you said. Also the top fighters leave the match when they lose. When that happens you don’t get the win.
Im a massive boxing fan and have been waiting for a good boxing game for years and sadly with the state of the game on release im still waiting. And i gotta say i knew it would be like this. People always find cheap ways to win and they’ve done that here. Online is frustrating coz of the fucked power spam and shite stamina drain. Also i play a friend regularly and he doesn’t so much spam the power shots but in most fights i outbox him , slip and move, set him up , use angles and distance but it makes no difference 🤷🏻♂️ flash knockdowns that are not earned and shit scoring system. And dont get me started on fighting Wilder …. Steel city have seen him fight right ??? Yeah he can hit but his footwork and coordination are laughable. Please fix this fast
Everytime they put 1 player who's throwing power punches. In previous game was Frost. Who played knows how it was. Calm, focus and tactic. Maybe after few hours you will find a way to finish him
Do you use the right stick to throw punches or the buttons ?
Im a casual but my biggest issue is stamina. Its ridiculous body shots are practically worthless to try and drain stamina every time i do body shots aomehow im left with less stamina then the other person.
I would think that the devs may address this tomorrow with it being worldwide release day. Or may not...
You are not complaining, this is pure frustration. And i am frustrated cause i am with this game from first day. And i am frustrated cause this project have devs that took bite that they cant chew. Competitive online games are hard to balance, and fighting games are even harder. And this guys dont have a fcking idea what are they doing.
I’m 19-2 and I agree. The power punching is horrendous. Can’t slip a punch at all unless you’re super tall n just lean back but it sucks
All of the time they had to polish this game and they completely shit the bed smh.
Have the same problem but i noticed you can actually counter those power shots with body punches and completely deplete there stamina but you need the 12 rounds to work by round 4 there stamina is 50% if you focus on body work
I bought the game on day one of the early access. It was a rollercoaster, but there were times I was having fun. But this right now it feels far worse than early access, I don't get the feet movement, it's like I have broken gamepad, you hold stick down and sometimes your player is barely moving, everything so slow, inconsistent, sluggish, just no satisfaction at all in playing. The only thing that got better is the punches, they now feel faster and dangerous but they don't deal any damage hahaha, feeling of punches are better but everything else far worse. You land like 5 right hook power punches in a row to guys face and nothing happens, they dont bleed, dont have a swelling, they dont drop. It's just broken. But mostly disappointed that game don't have that satisfying feeling anymore that occasionally happen in early acces. Back than I used to say man, they are so close to got it right and now they just went completely south with everything
How many people are actually on the developing team ? Do you know ? I heard this was a small company , I really wish they can bring in some help and just have some seasoned programmers help them correcting this shit and implementing the proper things to bring this game to the next level
"Simulation mode" needs to be naturally on 1.5 stamina and damage modifiers as well
Something definitely need to change. I lost a round to a guy that threw only power shots and landed one the whole round and they gave it to him lol
Good video. I think it should be 10 or 12 rounds. 10 for regular fights and 12 for fight that hold a belt. As far as the power punches it’s a stamina issue. If you’re exploiting the game like this you should get penalized heavily with fatigue. The devs will this ASAP with the next patch and I also believe they will up the rounds.
Thanks for the great video bro I definitely needed to watch this
Second comment, if we could utilize the slip and lean better, make it more fluid with a different mapping and those haymakers could stay. Because if you can catch a clean counter haymaker it hurts them bad. They’d stop. But we can’t dodge it properly 🤷🏼♂️ I don’t mind that crazy shit. I think it’s realistic. They def need to nerf the stamina cost from it tho so it’s more punishing to box that way. If they did that, it would make the simulation of it real. One players punching himself out or catching lucky clean shots. The other can weather the storm and box
I’ve been a boxing game player for 24 years now and I’ll buy this game when I know I’ll play it.
It’s so unrealistic seeing someone whiff so many shots over and over and not be punished very badly stamina wise. Also 8 rounds in ranked makes no sense at all to me because some people like to take fights to decision and you shouldn’t decide how people should play and just let them play their own way. Also I think there’s a problem with online matches where what you’re seeing on your screen isn’t the same as what your opponent sees on their screen hence the random shots that land from across the ring or random punch audio that you’ll hear when no one’s thrown a punch. I’ve preordered the game and will be playing it on full release and do have trust and hope that they’ll get around to making these changes because the game will just be a better experience for the majority of players. Stamina depletion on missed power shots needs be drastically improved and ranked needs to be 12 rounds as a standard. Those two changes would be great! 💯
Roy Jones Jr 93 has this exact issue.. walks back into corner, lean back and then power hooks forever.....
Bruh u speaking all facts I was beating a dude so bad he was bloody n all but they was giving him the rounds just cz he had power hits but the man was missin so many punches
Bro its such a shame they let this happen, I really wanted the release to be something great, but it feels worse than the early access versions. I've only had 4 ranked fights and they all have gone this way with the opponent throwing hundreds of power punches. I don't think they will fix it though, RIP Undisputed.