@Issa Dashti but if we got rid of DST, you would loose the hour you are gaining right now in another weekend ;) So I guess that is what you call a loose-loose?
I understand the complaints from people in the USA, the south of Europa....(I do not understand why you have it), but as a person that lives in northern Sweden I really like to be able to see the sun when the School or work ends.
@@johanneskarlsson3859 I have a problem with the change in time. I don't actually dislike daylight Savings Time, I dislike the switch between the two schedules. I'm just using DLS as shorthand for the change. My home state (Washington) is passing legislation to switch to DLS time permanently year round. So we will have that extra hour in the evening, but wont have to shift an hour in the spring and fall. This option is overwhelmingly supported in my area, and is the better option for more northern climates.
Way back in 2014, I made a video aobut the world's strangest time zones (th-cam.com/video/uW6QqcmCfm8/w-d-xo.html) and at the end of the video I posed the question: do we even need time zones? After nearly 5 years since the video upload, I decided to finally tackle this question. This was no easy task. In fact, this was one of my one challenging videos to date, and is quite a bit different to the kind of video I normally make. A video was a argumentative style, which relied a lot on opinion and conjecture, as opposed to clearly defined and established facts, was not easy. I start the video by trying to make the case for abolishing time zones and the potential upside of having one time for the entire globe, before then transitioning into making the case IN FAVOUR of the status quo, in which I suggest that a universal time zone may in fact cause more problems than it solves. Another reason this video is quite different from most, is the use of stock footage. Since this video isn't about history or geography, there were far fewer maps, graphs, timelines, etc. to use, and so I understand that this video contains a lot of 'filler' footage that isn't directly related to what I'm saying. This was necessary given the nature of the video. Anyway, this video took me quite a bit out of my comfort zone, but I think that's definitely a good thing. I always want to try new things and experiment, and if that means the odd video flops, it's a risk that I think is worth taking. I hope you guys did enjoy the video, and if not... well, I doubt I'll be making many more like this, so hopefully the next one will be more to your taste! Feel free to share your opinion on whether or not we need time zones! I'd love to hear them. Be sure to give some love to today's sponsor, Dashlane: www.dashlane.com/wonderwhy. Even just downloading the app is a huge help to my channel, and it's completely free, with no card details needed or anything. Thanks to everyone for watching and subscribing!
Seeing that the Pacific Ocean is really big, surely, we could choose the universal time zone such that the day change would only fall in the working periods of Pacific Islanders, (mostly) eliminating one of the problems posed. Also, people can adapt to noon being at 'weird' times. The other problems you posed already exist with time zones (e.g., deciding whether or not to call someone internationally) This ultimately means that if we choose the universal time zone carefully, we can get unambiguous times without ending up with more problems than we already have
I don't see how the removing of timezones would eradicate the traffic jams seeing how you made the same argument that we'd just wake up the same time as before sun wise, we would still have our work hours as usual and people would still end their days at the same time. 8 hours is still 8 hours even if we wake up at 18:00 or 13:00 =P Although as a whole liked the video =D
So just to be clear, in the first section of the video I'm basically using OTHER people's arguments since I personally don't think a unviersal time zone would work. Like at all. The idea of this specific example is more that in a world without time zones, we would gradually move away from the traditional "9 to 5", and working hours would be more industry-specific, and maybe even flexible throughout the different season. So while people would adjust to the sun of their location, there might be a some loose variance, leading to less traffic because not everyone would be bound to a start time of 9am. Again, I don't agree with this argument, it's just one that I've read!
@@WonderWhy the same is now, there are businesses that work at night and other that work with shifts 24hours... rush hours will remain, as people want to go at work in the morning and finish in the noon to enjoy some free time during the day. This argument is unthoughtfull, same with the one with going to the bank... Edit: you adressed all these a bit later on the video... be carefull with your editing, it might give wrong impression!
@Jay What would change is that you wouldn't have to do a lot of math to communicate with someone in a distant location. You just check their posted business hours. Fewer mistakes would be made and less frustration would occur. "When's the best time to call over there?" "Between 2200 and 0300." "Alright, I'll set my alarm."
@@dontaskiwasbored2008 It's not daily side effects that would be the problem because there wouldn't be any. The problem would be that everyone would have to change their mindset. Because of that there would be a lot of one-time side effects as people erred. It would be the equivalent of switching from local measurement to metric measurement. And yes, in the end it would be worth it.
@@alanfriesen9837 there are online meeting planners that can find a suitable time without you having to do the maths yourself and if everyone saw the same numbers on the clock regardless of the time of the day, time wouldn't mean anything. Time having a relatively universal meaning is far more important and useful than a universal time
You totally changed my mind dude. I've been thinking about a universal time zone for a while and now I see that indeed, having the sun high at noon is far more important than the benefits you would gain
Seeing that the Pacific Ocean is really big, surely, we could choose the universal time zone such that the day change would only fall in the working periods of Pacific Islanders, (mostly) eliminating one of the problems posed. Also, people can adapt to noon being at 'weird' times. The other problems posed already exist with time zones (e.g., deciding whether or not to call someone internationally) This ultimately means that if we choose the universal time zone carefully, we can get unambiguous times without ending up with more problems than we already have
@@billybobjoe198 I'm from Australia and while I'm not really that old, I have never heard of any major use of the imperial system here. We use it when we are talking about height, but even then only sometimes. Apart from that, I've never really had to use it.
@@ianthineachernar and us, i dont think i could get use to shiting with me left hand, and question is the gas petal in center (by the central hub) or is it on the left, if so that would be even weirder, i assume we place the gas petal at or near the central hump, so it is harder to accidently hit it while entering and exiting
Unless you can convince all your institutions to voluntarily move their starting times, DST is the only way to give people the daylight in one large block at the end of the day, rather than in 2 pieces one at the start and one at the end.
fredact remove winter time. I swear to god, the fact that Greenwich actually doesn't change it's time cuz Greenwich can't he GMT +1 but the rest of England is, as some countries in GMT +0 don't change their time.
Statistically, that should be true. It's also quite meaningless, as there are always puppies born somewhere. @@Saucy-ws6jc He didn't say "only". When Wonderwhy uploads, a puppy is born - and when he doesn't, as well.
It should be noted that Myanmar doesn't use Imperial Units, but rather "Traditional" Units that happen to be close to Imperial. But the point still stands, they choose not to use Metric.
Daylight savings time and time zones in general give our day a social context. When calling someone many time zones away, what is important is the social context, ie, whether someone is likely to be awake at a certain time. Otherwise, you can use email and the message can be read at any time.
Finally, the video that you left "for another time" in the strangest time zones video. You have no idea how many times I've watched that one before today! :D
2:06 - Quite the contrary. If you're used to sleeping at 20:00 and you travel to a place where they normally sleep at 07:00, then you'd have to remember to adjust your alarm and stuff to that local time. Jet-lag would be amplified as your brain tries to adjust to the different system. 5:00 - Again, you may not have to change your clock, but you'd have to change the alarm and your habit. 6:20 - Exactly, you'd need to memorize the time of day for each region or look it up. 7:05 - Who says that in such a scenario that they'd use Greenwich as the base again? 🤨 9:03 - Like that thing kids do where on New Year's Eve they'll say something like "I'm going to the bathroom; see you next year". 9:25 - And you thought you got flack for using BCE. :-\ 9:28 - Have you ever even seen fireworks during the day? Nothing beats the washed-out, faded beauty of subdued fireworks. 9:43 - Canada's also yella. ¬_¬ - A _stone_ ? Really? 14lbs units? Seriously? 🤨 What the actual hell Britain‽ ¬_¬ 9:50 - Just tell them it's the "people's timezone". 😉
I can see both sides, and have a solution for the good point you made about travel/communications with those outside of your current time zone. Right now, you'd generally have to look up, or memorize time differences, and without time zones, we could just have those same conversion tables, but base them on either sunrise or "high noon" (when the sun is at it's apex for the day) at that location, either would be the same effort as now, would give you an idea if it is ok to call or what time to get up when traveling, and would still add the benefit of no longer having any time zone confusion. I don't know how many people would actually benefit, but working for an international company, based on the US west coast and working out of a building on the US east coast, I would LOVE IT if everything was the same time! So much time zone confusion since so many people forget or can't be bothered to include the time zone when scheduling times, and could easily be talking about EST, PST or UTC. It's maddening.
I live in the US state of Arizona. In that state, some parts of it (Navajo Nation) observes daylight savings time while the rest of the state does not.
In Russia daylight saving time is abolished. One of the rare cases that Russian government issued a really useful law:D the other one - is a ban on homeopathy
For travel and coordinating meetings and events across timezones it might sound easier to just use one universal time, but in practice all this would do is require that people learn what arbitrary universal times people in other places sleep, eat, etc. Timezones actually function as a useful shorthand for this now by lining up the same components of the day with the same numbers, so we should just keep them. For instance, a tourist guidebook might now say "the time in Sydney is UTC+10." Easy, you can do the conversion in your head. Without timezones the book would have to say "In Sydney, people generally sleep between 09:00 and 17:00 and eat lunch between 01:00 and 04:00."
I disagree. Instead of UTC +11 it could still say that, and for example, a US east coaster would be used to "Noon" being around 5 P.M. of what would be World Wide Time, and they would then go "ok, I'm -5 WWT usually, they are +11 WWT, so their "Noon" is +16 hours WWT from what I'm used to, so it'd be roughly 11 P.M WWT for Sydney local "Noon"". I understand that that sounds complicated, but no more complicated than "it's 12:01 PM here, we're -5 UTC, they are +11 UTC so it's 4:01 A.M. there, so, wait, was that meeting at 1 P.M. our time or their time?"
I feel like we should have more :30 time zones. Here's an example: Las Vegas, Amarillo, and Nashville are all roughly on the same line of latitude. Amarillo is a bit closer to LV than Nashville. Amarillo and Nashville are in the same time zone, while LV and Amarillo are 2 time zones apart. Also, look at the time zone boundary between Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. If Boise and Spokane were in the same time zone, there wouldn't be all those jagged lines.
Ok, but why not both? Like we could become more conscious as a society of UTC and use it to schedule meetings with foreigners or individuals across the country of the country is wide, and we could use local time zones for when they’re best.
2014 Wonder: (posts a video about timezones that convinces people that they’re a good idea, intentionally or not). 2019 Wonder: _Are_ timezones a bad idea?
@@PiousMoltar It wouldn't improve flexibility in any way I could see, but it would make things simpler, especially where travel or long-distance communication is involved.
@@alanfriesen9837 could happen i we somehow developed somekind of globally interconnected extremely fast travel and we totally abolished the idea of the sun existence.
The only video I've found so far that takes anything other than "but it would make it super easy to talk to the other side of the world" into account. 99% of people are not regularly talking to the other side of the world, and the way we do things right now is just a couple of notches away from stupid simple already. Good mention of "use UTC if you need it" too.
US is - *One of the 3 countries that still heavily uses imperial system today (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication) *One of the 4 countries that still uses Fahrenheit scale today (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit) *And one of the ONLY 2 countries that fits the both! The other one is Liberia, which was founded by US immigrants! Murica is surely a crackpot at some points lol
Solution is simple. We use the 24 time zones that run straight from north to south pole. Runs through the middle of a town? Well, people can regularly walk back & forth one hour. In Kiribati, they can do that but instead a whole day. Australia follows a relatively logical time zone, but both South Australia & Northern Territory follow half an hour behind.
Spain eating late is a byproduct of them being on UTC+1 when much of the country should be on UTC-1, meaning that many people are essentially on double (or triple, during the summer) daylight savings time.
If we all had the same time zone or we all had different ones like we do, it wouldn’t make much of a difference. Traffic probably wouldn’t change either way because rush hour would just be at another time. Talking with people around the world would also just be confusing talking about time and how they wake up at 2 pm while you might wake up at 9 am. People in each time zone would probably just adopt their own time zone based on the sun in their region. It would be pointless
Yeah basically it would solve nothing, and create a whole heap of new problems... imaging being tourist in a country in a place that would today be another timezone... you would have no idea when shops would open and close etc
Well you don't need to do any math yourself to convert between timezones already, tons of online sites that does it faster and better than you can yourself ever hope to, so that is kind of a moot point when you directly ask them beforehand, the problems comes with the unscheduled calls more, with our current timezones as long as you know their timezones you know that if you want to call them during their work its somewhere in afternoon that would be best, if its a more private call you going for while they are at home early evening hours would be best. but with a single timezone, ehmm are they at work at 2 pm?, or are they at home but awake, or is it middle of the night, So you would have to have timezones that are just based on workhours instead, so in that regard it would be at best about the same, at worst a lot more confusing to remember. And forget about talking about their what they do at a certain time of day, or be a tourist on the other side of the world... Let's say you are from britain (and we assume that GMT would be the one place where everything would stay as it is now) then take a vacation in Australia, so even though you are used to sleeping from something like 22:00 to 8:00 or something like that, now all of a sudden you ahve to go to sleep at like maybe 10:00 and wake up at like 18:00. So now instead of with our current system you could just adjust your clock to the Australian timezone, you have to instead remembered all the time when you have to go to bed, and wake up, when the shops open and close etc. etc. So yeah as I said solves nothing, but creates a whole heap of problems
@@GummieI I find it easier to look up shop hours, and a lot of times you are talking about clock times for follow up conversations, conference call notices, etc. Seriously, once everybody got over the initial adjustment it would be better for everyone.
The problem is, people want to abolish time zones for two reasons: to simplify scheduling, and to simplify calculations. But neither of those things would be better without time zones. (Edit: And I should've watched more of the video before commenting, heh.) In the current world, when you want to know whether it's morning, afternoon, evening or night in some part of the world -- you check their time zone, which gives you a good enough approximation. In a world with a single time zone, you'd have to know what clock time corresponds to what solar time in that location. Hardly an improvement. As for calculations -- well, you might reform the present, but you can't reform the past. All the time zone calculations would have to stick around to calculate past times and dates. Actually, the timezone database would be even more complicated than before since it would have to account for when countries switched over to the new single time zone. Moreover, even if you don't need to worry about past dates, what about checking the correspondence between solar time and clock time? People are going to want a program to deal with that! What about automating the process -- maybe you want a website that does something in the morning, per user? You'll need to make a program to parse the correspondence and translate them accurately! Heck, you'd need a scheme to let the user specify their solar time in the first place. And so on and so on. Calculations would be as complicated as they are now. Time zones might be messy, but the alternatives are just as terrible if not worse.
It doesn't matter what the time zone is, you can't change the way the sun hits the earth's surface. We made the time zone to fit the sun rise and sun set. We don't follow the time zone, the time zone follows the sunlight hours. People think it would be easier getting ride of all the time zones but really that fucks up our sense of time of day. If we have a universal time, say it's 1pm all over rn, but just cuz the clock says 1 pm doesn't mean the sun is up on the other side of the world.
The time zone boundaries in USA are further west than they belong, so that part of Michigan is almost 1 hour fast of its local mean solar time during standard time; part of Texas is almost 1 hour fast. The boundaries of Central Standard Time belong at 82.5 degrees west and 112.5 degrees west; but these run through Tampa and Oklahoma City.
In Finland, normal working hours are 8-4 and lunch is like 11am. Personally, I work one week morning shift 6am-2pm and one week evening shift 2pm-10pm. My lunch is 10:30am or 6pm in the evening shift.
Great to see a new upload from you. As for the videos topic. I think the way time zones work currently is only really an issue if you live near one a regularly cross it. An example would be living in the US and travelling a lot for work meaning crossing time zones between certain states or if you live close to the international date line and regularly communicate with the other side of it. For me living on the island of Ireland I can’t cross datelines without a boat or a plane so it always feels like a big deal anyway so I’m always prepared for it but I can imagine it being an annoyance at least if it’s within driving distance especially if within the same country.
The United States does not use the Imperial System. America uses the American Customary Units, which are similar to but different than the Imperial system.
I really like the idea of using UTC everywhere but am aware of the problem that still exists of where it's day/night at. A proposal: don't switch to UTC for primary time. Keep local time, but scrap DST and non full-hour time zone offsets. Move all time zones to wherever they really belong based on where countries are relative to the Prime Meridian (Netherlands might go in UTC/GMT, Spain definitely will, Iceland belongs 1 or 2 hours behind UTC, ask India to pick which hour 5 or 6, etc). once all time zones are fixed in place, don't mess with them any more. Next: have UTC be used in the travel industry & online, where cross-border communication takes place always anyway. Terminals will show both local time where you are and UTC, similar to how in Russia the trains used to go on Moscow time. UTC is great when in motion as it allows ease of calculating how long it took to get somewhere, no matter if you crossed time zones or not.
On behalf of my state of South Australia I apologise for our god awful +9:30 time zone. Our stater government did it to try an partially line us up with the eastern states times but being 30mins out is still being out. That's why there is a movement to either go to +10 or more logically go to +9 which lines us up with our geographic location.
What about after 23:59? And the date?? If the clock ticks over to 00:00 in the middle of my day for me, when do I classify that the day has ended? It would make it very complicated to classify the beginning and end of business days right?
Seeing this video the problem is not time zones, but every people in the city going to work at the same time for no reason at all. Just let people go to work whenever if there is no need to sit behind your desk exactly from 8.00 to 16.00. There are lot of desk jobs like that. That would help with the rush hours quite a bit. One way would be to assign some people to work from 12-20, some 11-19, 10-18, 9-17, 8-16... everyone would still be at the office between 12-16, if you need to have a meetings or something like that, but there would be a lot less rush hours.
I don’t understand the hate of daylight savings. In the peak of summer in Melbourne, Australia the sun will be up from 6am to 8.45pm dst. This is such a better situation than the sun rising at 5am and setting at 7.45. So many more people are up and out and about at 8pm compared to 5am. It makes total sense.
I feel like if this happened, many people would stop living by the sun, with this pattern being most prevalent where there’s not much natural sunlight in the first place. This could also happen to people who live north of the Arctic Circle or in Antarctica.
The only real disadvantage is the awkwardness of changing the calendar day in the middle of the solar day. Even that is pretty minor. Everything else is just a matter of getting used to different number. The benefits are actually substantial.
First Principles - time is inherently the same for everyone (ignoring physics/spacetime, which is insignificant for everyday life) - the sun's position in the sky is important to everyone, but it's based on geography. For example, the location of a city (which is why cities map to time zones) - individuals and organizations agree on times for events. Some of these, such as the start of a calendar day, are specific to a location - a system used to express time (such as yyyy-MM-dd hh:mm:ss + time zone) should communicate both the universal time and the sun's position specific to a location Business hours (and their relationship to daylight savings time) are just agreed upon times for events (specific to a location). To provide flexibility, they could be changed by the businesses themselves. This can be done independently of the system used to express time (i.e. whether we get rid of time zones or not).
I know one sector that does not use local time zones-amateur radio communications on shortwave. Everything is in UTC there. And this gives me an idea for how to get the best of both worlds: Use two clocks; one set to local time, and the other set to UTC.
1:42 isn't there a massive problem with this? Like needing to re-learn what your supposed to do at each time of the day if you change country or region?
Ever heard of Swahili time? East African timezone is UTC+3, and clocks are set as such, however, when speaking Swahili, people use numbers offset by six, so that, for example, 10am would be read as "hour four" and 6pm would be "hour 12". This is because Swahili speakers never gave up sunrise and sunset based timekeeping. Also, one can add "morning", "afternoon", "night" etc to avoid ambiguity if desired.
GMT/UTC masterrace. 9:44 it isn't that awkward of a mix and they teach metric in schools these days. Pretty much just oldies refusing to give up imperial.
Your argument about staggering out work start times is a non sequiter with the time zones issue. People go to work around the same time partly because of when the sun rises and sets. There's also the benefit of having people physically together at the same time to work on projects etc.
People go to work whenever the business wants to operate and that can vary but for the most part won't change much. What would change is that when someone in Hawaii tells a colleague in New York to call him at eight-thirty you wouldn't have to go through the "What time is it there now?" conversation and then try to remember the stagger rate. You're much more likely to make the call at the correct time without screwing it up.
I agree that DST is not necesary, however I am absolutely for keeping Summer time all year round. I am in France, which is already about an hour ahead of solar time, and I personally think that having sunlight in the evening is much better than in the morning (even on winter solstice, if we kept summer time, the sun would be up between 9 45 and 17 54, which I muuuuch prefer to having sunlight from 4 43 to 21 00 on the summer solstice)
I don't see how it would simplify communications across large areas. It is not like everyone will be working about 9-5 in the UK. You would still have to know when the other person works but now, instead of just have a (nearly round) hour extension it could be anything.
The problem now is that when someone in a distant location tells you they work 8am-4pm you then have to convert to your local time in order to figure out when to communicate. That conversion process invites error which could result in inefficiencies (lost opportunities, anger and disappointment). If someone says they work from 2100-0500 and you're on the same clock then you don't have to calculate anything.
@@sebastianmalton5967 I live on the West Coast (USA) and I'm constantly running into references to east coast businesses and government offices where I'm told they're open til say 3pm. I have to be aware that I've got to call before noon. When I call my in-laws in China it's even more complicated. I have to figure out if it's the same day and whether I'm fourteen hours behind or is it thirteen or fifteen (Gotta love Daylight saving). I would dearly love to go to a single global clock.
Abolishing timezones is a bad idea and the points in this video were great. For example, if I want to call my relatives overseas, all I have to remember is that they are 7 hours ahead of me. If its 10AM where I am, its 5PM where they are so its a good time to call them, If its 9PM here its 4AM there, not a good time to call. With universal time if its noon where I am (UTC 5PM) I know its 5PM over there but I would have no idea if its a good time to call them, so I still have to remember when noon is where my relatives live. DST sound like a good idea on paper, but because not everyone uses it and some places start using it a week before others it makes thing very complicated. Half hour times zones should be abolished and current ones should be fixed. I have heard some people say that all timezones should be straight longitude lines and not follow borders but that is a bad idea. If a time zone splits a city's metro area it would be a logistical nightmare. They should still follow borders but it should still make sense. For example, France and Spain should use UTC +0 instead of +1 and so on. As a final note, UTC is a great tool for scheduling international events or events on the internet and I think everyone should know their timezone's UTC offset. (EST is UTC -5)
The problem is not that we have different time zones, it is that the Earth is a globe and it can't be noon at the same time everywhere. Ending time zones wouldn't solve the core problem, which is unsolvable.
9:45 should have Canada be yellow as well. We need to know metric for long distances, imperial for short, and metric for REALLY short. Weight is in pounds for people, but grams for food.
Love the second segment. You really covered all the important parts of daylight savings.
@Issa Dashti but if we got rid of DST, you would loose the hour you are gaining right now in another weekend ;) So I guess that is what you call a loose-loose?
Issa Dashti I hate both the one hour loss and the one hour gain. It throws me off rhythm.
I understand the complaints from people in the USA, the south of Europa....(I do not understand why you have it), but as a person that lives in northern Sweden I really like to be able to see the sun when the School or work ends.
@@johanneskarlsson3859 I have a problem with the change in time. I don't actually dislike daylight Savings Time, I dislike the switch between the two schedules. I'm just using DLS as shorthand for the change. My home state (Washington) is passing legislation to switch to DLS time permanently year round. So we will have that extra hour in the evening, but wont have to shift an hour in the spring and fall. This option is overwhelmingly supported in my area, and is the better option for more northern climates.
I don't care, it's all the same to me.
Surprised you actually made this video after almost 5 years
It has literally been on my list of video topics for this entire time! Glad I finally got 'round to it - it was surprisingly challenging.
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@@WonderWhy I guess you lost 'track of time' lol
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His last post was less than three months ago
Way back in 2014, I made a video aobut the world's strangest time zones (th-cam.com/video/uW6QqcmCfm8/w-d-xo.html) and at the end of the video I posed the question: do we even need time zones? After nearly 5 years since the video upload, I decided to finally tackle this question.
This was no easy task. In fact, this was one of my one challenging videos to date, and is quite a bit different to the kind of video I normally make. A video was a argumentative style, which relied a lot on opinion and conjecture, as opposed to clearly defined and established facts, was not easy.
I start the video by trying to make the case for abolishing time zones and the potential upside of having one time for the entire globe, before then transitioning into making the case IN FAVOUR of the status quo, in which I suggest that a universal time zone may in fact cause more problems than it solves.
Another reason this video is quite different from most, is the use of stock footage. Since this video isn't about history or geography, there were far fewer maps, graphs, timelines, etc. to use, and so I understand that this video contains a lot of 'filler' footage that isn't directly related to what I'm saying. This was necessary given the nature of the video.
Anyway, this video took me quite a bit out of my comfort zone, but I think that's definitely a good thing. I always want to try new things and experiment, and if that means the odd video flops, it's a risk that I think is worth taking. I hope you guys did enjoy the video, and if not... well, I doubt I'll be making many more like this, so hopefully the next one will be more to your taste!
Feel free to share your opinion on whether or not we need time zones! I'd love to hear them.
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Seeing that the Pacific Ocean is really big, surely, we could choose the universal time zone such that the day change would only fall in the working periods of Pacific Islanders, (mostly) eliminating one of the problems posed. Also, people can adapt to noon being at 'weird' times. The other problems you posed already exist with time zones (e.g., deciding whether or not to call someone internationally)
This ultimately means that if we choose the universal time zone carefully, we can get unambiguous times without ending up with more problems than we already have
My man you’re running on your own time zone uploading like this
I don't see how the removing of timezones would eradicate the traffic jams seeing how you made the same argument that we'd just wake up the same time as before sun wise, we would still have our work hours as usual and people would still end their days at the same time. 8 hours is still 8 hours even if we wake up at 18:00 or 13:00 =P
Although as a whole liked the video =D
was wondering the same
yeah me too
So just to be clear, in the first section of the video I'm basically using OTHER people's arguments since I personally don't think a unviersal time zone would work. Like at all. The idea of this specific example is more that in a world without time zones, we would gradually move away from the traditional "9 to 5", and working hours would be more industry-specific, and maybe even flexible throughout the different season. So while people would adjust to the sun of their location, there might be a some loose variance, leading to less traffic because not everyone would be bound to a start time of 9am.
Again, I don't agree with this argument, it's just one that I've read!
WonderWhy Alright fair enough, would be nice if you were more clear in the video but I really appreciate you explained the ordeal. =D
@@WonderWhy the same is now, there are businesses that work at night and other that work with shifts 24hours... rush hours will remain, as people want to go at work in the morning and finish in the noon to enjoy some free time during the day. This argument is unthoughtfull, same with the one with going to the bank...
Edit: you adressed all these a bit later on the video... be carefull with your editing, it might give wrong impression!
This video honestly blew my mind.
HI mr. Beat!
@@kapuz-z4083 yes hi
It blew your mind so much it motivated you to just make a video about it
"Do we need daylight savings?"
"NO"
excellent
I liked the second part of the video because it pointed out all the logical mistakes made in the first part.
@Jay What would change is that you wouldn't have to do a lot of math to communicate with someone in a distant location. You just check their posted business hours. Fewer mistakes would be made and less frustration would occur.
"When's the best time to call over there?"
"Between 2200 and 0300."
"Alright, I'll set my alarm."
@@alanfriesen9837 Yeah that one rare benefit is worth all of the daily side-effects. Good thinking.
@@dontaskiwasbored2008 It's not daily side effects that would be the problem because there wouldn't be any. The problem would be that everyone would have to change their mindset. Because of that there would be a lot of one-time side effects as people erred. It would be the equivalent of switching from local measurement to metric measurement. And yes, in the end it would be worth it.
@@alanfriesen9837 there are online meeting planners that can find a suitable time without you having to do the maths yourself and if everyone saw the same numbers on the clock regardless of the time of the day, time wouldn't mean anything. Time having a relatively universal meaning is far more important and useful than a universal time
My country used to have its own time zone until President Moon persuaded me to change it back to Japan time. Those were the days....
@Maximillius did this to me
>North Korea
>Communism
@Maximillius did this to me as well
@@zxaa2852
Thanks
You mean Korean time,right? Japan uses UTC+9,but they change it back to UTC+8
Get out. You're not even him.
You totally changed my mind dude. I've been thinking about a universal time zone for a while and now I see that indeed, having the sun high at noon is far more important than the benefits you would gain
Ah, welcome back :)
Seeing that the Pacific Ocean is really big, surely, we could choose the universal time zone such that the day change would only fall in the working periods of Pacific Islanders, (mostly) eliminating one of the problems posed. Also, people can adapt to noon being at 'weird' times. The other problems posed already exist with time zones (e.g., deciding whether or not to call someone internationally)
This ultimately means that if we choose the universal time zone carefully, we can get unambiguous times without ending up with more problems than we already have
9:45 UK - Can't decide it wants to use the metric system or not so uses an awkward mix of both. 😂😂
This made my day and it is absolutely right.🤣🤣
So does Canada and Australia.
@@billybobjoe198 I'm from Australia and while I'm not really that old, I have never heard of any major use of the imperial system here. We use it when we are talking about height, but even then only sometimes. Apart from that, I've never really had to use it.
@@ianthineachernar I also generally use feet and inches for height and can't get miles.
@@ianthineachernar and us, i dont think i could get use to shiting with me left hand, and question is the gas petal in center (by the central hub) or is it on the left, if so that would be even weirder, i assume we place the gas petal at or near the central hump, so it is harder to accidently hit it while entering and exiting
9:45 Myanmar doesn’t use imperial. It uses its own measurements system.
I was searching for this comment
Yep I know that already
Daylight Savings can go straight to hell
Unless you can convince all your institutions to voluntarily move their starting times, DST is the only way to give people the daylight in one large block at the end of the day, rather than in 2 pieces one at the start and one at the end.
fredact remove winter time.
I swear to god, the fact that Greenwich actually doesn't change it's time cuz Greenwich can't he GMT +1 but the rest of England is, as some countries in GMT +0 don't change their time.
No. Daylight saving is needed.
Dac DT
No it isn’t.
@@KasabianFan44 Yes it is. It is needed in the northern hemisphere.
When wonderwhy uploads, a puppy is born.
If he sees this our youtube feed will be fucked
Statistically, that should be true. It's also quite meaningless, as there are always puppies born somewhere.
@@Saucy-ws6jc He didn't say "only". When Wonderwhy uploads, a puppy is born - and when he doesn't, as well.
@@varana he is technically correct...the best type of correct(dead meme revival)
Obligatory “He’s alive” comment
He posts a video once every month
It should be noted that Myanmar doesn't use Imperial Units, but rather "Traditional" Units that happen to be close to Imperial.
But the point still stands, they choose not to use Metric.
*tamezones* are pretty messed up..
Daylight savings time and time zones in general give our day a social context. When calling someone many time zones away, what is important is the social context, ie, whether someone is likely to be awake at a certain time. Otherwise, you can use email and the message can be read at any time.
Aren't time zones weird?
It's 4:34 in Puerto Rico, 3:34 in Texas and 1942 in Alabama.
And 1900 bce in california
“It’s not normal to get up at 1pm and sleep at 5am” laughs in Pandemic
Cool video...
Now imma go hibernate for another 6 or so months until the next one
exeterra lol
An 8:00 phone call is not just an 8:00 phone call when you're calling someone where it's dark and thus they are sleeping.
I wish I could give you another 👍🏻 for the Daylight Savings Time answer.
See you all in 6 months lads
lol ive seen your videos before, keep it up
Finally, the video that you left "for another time" in the strangest time zones video. You have no idea how many times I've watched that one before today! :D
Hi wonder why. How are you? .you uploaded midnight. So i watched when i woke up. Nice details. Awesome explanation. Thanks for your video..😀
In Arizona we don't use daylight savings time.
Except the #NavajoNation portion
I am against a universal time zone. but i do think that ending day light savings.
We need them to confuse people
9:44 you forgot to paint Canada in yellow too
2:06 - Quite the contrary. If you're used to sleeping at 20:00 and you travel to a place where they normally sleep at 07:00, then you'd have to remember to adjust your alarm and stuff to that local time. Jet-lag would be amplified as your brain tries to adjust to the different system. 5:00 - Again, you may not have to change your clock, but you'd have to change the alarm and your habit.
6:20 - Exactly, you'd need to memorize the time of day for each region or look it up.
7:05 - Who says that in such a scenario that they'd use Greenwich as the base again? 🤨
9:03 - Like that thing kids do where on New Year's Eve they'll say something like "I'm going to the bathroom; see you next year".
9:25 - And you thought you got flack for using BCE. :-\
9:28 - Have you ever even seen fireworks during the day? Nothing beats the washed-out, faded beauty of subdued fireworks.
9:43 - Canada's also yella. ¬_¬ - A _stone_ ? Really? 14lbs units? Seriously? 🤨 What the actual hell Britain‽ ¬_¬
9:50 - Just tell them it's the "people's timezone". 😉
I can see both sides, and have a solution for the good point you made about travel/communications with those outside of your current time zone. Right now, you'd generally have to look up, or memorize time differences, and without time zones, we could just have those same conversion tables, but base them on either sunrise or "high noon" (when the sun is at it's apex for the day) at that location, either would be the same effort as now, would give you an idea if it is ok to call or what time to get up when traveling, and would still add the benefit of no longer having any time zone confusion. I don't know how many people would actually benefit, but working for an international company, based on the US west coast and working out of a building on the US east coast, I would LOVE IT if everything was the same time! So much time zone confusion since so many people forget or can't be bothered to include the time zone when scheduling times, and could easily be talking about EST, PST or UTC. It's maddening.
I live in the US state of Arizona. In that state, some parts of it (Navajo Nation) observes daylight savings time while the rest of the state does not.
And the Hopi Nation within the Navajo Nation does not.
In Russia daylight saving time is abolished.
One of the rare cases that Russian government issued a really useful law:D the other one - is a ban on homeopathy
For travel and coordinating meetings and events across timezones it might sound easier to just use one universal time, but in practice all this would do is require that people learn what arbitrary universal times people in other places sleep, eat, etc. Timezones actually function as a useful shorthand for this now by lining up the same components of the day with the same numbers, so we should just keep them.
For instance, a tourist guidebook might now say "the time in Sydney is UTC+10." Easy, you can do the conversion in your head. Without timezones the book would have to say "In Sydney, people generally sleep between 09:00 and 17:00 and eat lunch between 01:00 and 04:00."
I disagree. Instead of UTC +11 it could still say that, and for example, a US east coaster would be used to "Noon" being around 5 P.M. of what would be World Wide Time, and they would then go "ok, I'm -5 WWT usually, they are +11 WWT, so their "Noon" is +16 hours WWT from what I'm used to, so it'd be roughly 11 P.M WWT for Sydney local "Noon"". I understand that that sounds complicated, but no more complicated than "it's 12:01 PM here, we're -5 UTC, they are +11 UTC so it's 4:01 A.M. there, so, wait, was that meeting at 1 P.M. our time or their time?"
If we removed them, the Greenwich time should be everyone's timezone in my opinion, as it was the first one.
I feel like we should have more :30 time zones. Here's an example: Las Vegas, Amarillo, and Nashville are all roughly on the same line of latitude. Amarillo is a bit closer to LV than Nashville. Amarillo and Nashville are in the same time zone, while LV and Amarillo are 2 time zones apart. Also, look at the time zone boundary between Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. If Boise and Spokane were in the same time zone, there wouldn't be all those jagged lines.
Ok, but why not both? Like we could become more conscious as a society of UTC and use it to schedule meetings with foreigners or individuals across the country of the country is wide, and we could use local time zones for when they’re best.
2014 Wonder: (posts a video about timezones that convinces people that they’re a good idea, intentionally or not).
2019 Wonder: _Are_ timezones a bad idea?
My favourite things about this video British description of the hybrid metic system and the day light saving conclusion.
Well, this is a stupid idea. Does anyone actually think that abolishing timezones will do anything for flexability?
Yeah that was very stupid. Especially since he had just said that it wouldn't effect people's schedules. Which it wouldn't. So that made no sense.
@@PiousMoltar It wouldn't improve flexibility in any way I could see, but it would make things simpler, especially where travel or long-distance communication is involved.
@@alanfriesen9837 could happen i we somehow developed somekind of globally interconnected extremely fast travel and we totally abolished the idea of the sun existence.
The only video I've found so far that takes anything other than "but it would make it super easy to talk to the other side of the world" into account. 99% of people are not regularly talking to the other side of the world, and the way we do things right now is just a couple of notches away from stupid simple already. Good mention of "use UTC if you need it" too.
The EU after abolishing borders, countries, regions, language:
"Do we need time?"
US is -
*One of the 3 countries that still heavily uses imperial system today
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication)
*One of the 4 countries that still uses Fahrenheit scale today
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit)
*And one of the ONLY 2 countries that fits the both! The other one is Liberia, which was founded by US immigrants!
Murica is surely a crackpot at some points lol
Solution is simple. We use the 24 time zones that run straight from north to south pole. Runs through the middle of a town? Well, people can regularly walk back & forth one hour. In Kiribati, they can do that but instead a whole day. Australia follows a relatively logical time zone, but both South Australia & Northern Territory follow half an hour behind.
Spain eating late is a byproduct of them being on UTC+1 when much of the country should be on UTC-1, meaning that many people are essentially on double (or triple, during the summer) daylight savings time.
The only sane TH-cam video on this topic I've found yet.
This video muddles two distinct concepts 1. Getting rid of time zones 2. Getting rid of set work days. You could have one without the other.
If we all had the same time zone or we all had different ones like we do, it wouldn’t make much of a difference. Traffic probably wouldn’t change either way because rush hour would just be at another time. Talking with people around the world would also just be confusing talking about time and how they wake up at 2 pm while you might wake up at 9 am. People in each time zone would probably just adopt their own time zone based on the sun in their region. It would be pointless
Yeah basically it would solve nothing, and create a whole heap of new problems... imaging being tourist in a country in a place that would today be another timezone... you would have no idea when shops would open and close etc
@@GummieI Connecting to people around the world would be a lot less confusing. "What time should I call you?" (no math involved).
Well you don't need to do any math yourself to convert between timezones already, tons of online sites that does it faster and better than you can yourself ever hope to, so that is kind of a moot point when you directly ask them beforehand, the problems comes with the unscheduled calls more, with our current timezones as long as you know their timezones you know that if you want to call them during their work its somewhere in afternoon that would be best, if its a more private call you going for while they are at home early evening hours would be best. but with a single timezone, ehmm are they at work at 2 pm?, or are they at home but awake, or is it middle of the night, So you would have to have timezones that are just based on workhours instead, so in that regard it would be at best about the same, at worst a lot more confusing to remember. And forget about talking about their what they do at a certain time of day, or be a tourist on the other side of the world... Let's say you are from britain (and we assume that GMT would be the one place where everything would stay as it is now) then take a vacation in Australia, so even though you are used to sleeping from something like 22:00 to 8:00 or something like that, now all of a sudden you ahve to go to sleep at like maybe 10:00 and wake up at like 18:00. So now instead of with our current system you could just adjust your clock to the Australian timezone, you have to instead remembered all the time when you have to go to bed, and wake up, when the shops open and close etc. etc. So yeah as I said solves nothing, but creates a whole heap of problems
@@GummieI I find it easier to look up shop hours, and a lot of times you are talking about clock times for follow up conversations, conference call notices, etc. Seriously, once everybody got over the initial adjustment it would be better for everyone.
The problem is, people want to abolish time zones for two reasons: to simplify scheduling, and to simplify calculations. But neither of those things would be better without time zones. (Edit: And I should've watched more of the video before commenting, heh.)
In the current world, when you want to know whether it's morning, afternoon, evening or night in some part of the world -- you check their time zone, which gives you a good enough approximation. In a world with a single time zone, you'd have to know what clock time corresponds to what solar time in that location. Hardly an improvement.
As for calculations -- well, you might reform the present, but you can't reform the past. All the time zone calculations would have to stick around to calculate past times and dates. Actually, the timezone database would be even more complicated than before since it would have to account for when countries switched over to the new single time zone.
Moreover, even if you don't need to worry about past dates, what about checking the correspondence between solar time and clock time? People are going to want a program to deal with that! What about automating the process -- maybe you want a website that does something in the morning, per user? You'll need to make a program to parse the correspondence and translate them accurately! Heck, you'd need a scheme to let the user specify their solar time in the first place. And so on and so on. Calculations would be as complicated as they are now.
Time zones might be messy, but the alternatives are just as terrible if not worse.
I think the positives outweigh the negatives for a universal time
Really well put video with interesting insight! Thank you
It doesn't matter what the time zone is, you can't change the way the sun hits the earth's surface. We made the time zone to fit the sun rise and sun set. We don't follow the time zone, the time zone follows the sunlight hours. People think it would be easier getting ride of all the time zones but really that fucks up our sense of time of day. If we have a universal time, say it's 1pm all over rn, but just cuz the clock says 1 pm doesn't mean the sun is up on the other side of the world.
New York: We need to have an importing business call at 8pm
Italy: That is way too early!
New York: That's early? How early?
Italy: it's at 8pm
The time zone boundaries in USA are further west than they belong, so that part of Michigan is almost 1 hour fast of its local mean solar time during standard time; part of Texas is almost 1 hour fast. The boundaries of Central Standard Time belong at 82.5 degrees west and 112.5 degrees west; but these run through Tampa and Oklahoma City.
a new wonderwhy video always makes my year
In Finland, normal working hours are 8-4 and lunch is like 11am. Personally, I work one week morning shift 6am-2pm and one week evening shift 2pm-10pm. My lunch is 10:30am or 6pm in the evening shift.
Dinner at 10-11pm is also popular in India...dinner time usually starts around 9 to 9.30 in many areas too
Great to see a new upload from you.
As for the videos topic. I think the way time zones work currently is only really an issue if you live near one a regularly cross it. An example would be living in the US and travelling a lot for work meaning crossing time zones between certain states or if you live close to the international date line and regularly communicate with the other side of it.
For me living on the island of Ireland I can’t cross datelines without a boat or a plane so it always feels like a big deal anyway so I’m always prepared for it but I can imagine it being an annoyance at least if it’s within driving distance especially if within the same country.
The United States does not use the Imperial System. America uses the American Customary Units, which are similar to but different than the Imperial system.
And far more practical for daily activities than the metric system.
Yup all this would do would change our question from “what time is it in Australia” to “Are people in Australia typically awake are 10:00?”
I really like the idea of using UTC everywhere but am aware of the problem that still exists of where it's day/night at. A proposal: don't switch to UTC for primary time. Keep local time, but scrap DST and non full-hour time zone offsets. Move all time zones to wherever they really belong based on where countries are relative to the Prime Meridian (Netherlands might go in UTC/GMT, Spain definitely will, Iceland belongs 1 or 2 hours behind UTC, ask India to pick which hour 5 or 6, etc). once all time zones are fixed in place, don't mess with them any more. Next: have UTC be used in the travel industry & online, where cross-border communication takes place always anyway. Terminals will show both local time where you are and UTC, similar to how in Russia the trains used to go on Moscow time. UTC is great when in motion as it allows ease of calculating how long it took to get somewhere, no matter if you crossed time zones or not.
6:35 Some programmers wanna have a chat with you :P
Oh, believe me, I've been on those schedules myself! Many of my older videos were made on schedules just like that!
Wow, two uploads in two months. Amazing!!
On behalf of my state of South Australia I apologise for our god awful +9:30 time zone. Our stater government did it to try an partially line us up with the eastern states times but being 30mins out is still being out. That's why there is a movement to either go to +10 or more logically go to +9 which lines us up with our geographic location.
I think this is the video that he said “that’s the topic for another time” on his older video, glad it followed through!
He's alive!
What about after 23:59? And the date?? If the clock ticks over to 00:00 in the middle of my day for me, when do I classify that the day has ended? It would make it very complicated to classify the beginning and end of business days right?
Seeing this video the problem is not time zones, but every people in the city going to work at the same time for no reason at all. Just let people go to work whenever if there is no need to sit behind your desk exactly from 8.00 to 16.00. There are lot of desk jobs like that. That would help with the rush hours quite a bit. One way would be to assign some people to work from 12-20, some 11-19, 10-18, 9-17, 8-16... everyone would still be at the office between 12-16, if you need to have a meetings or something like that, but there would be a lot less rush hours.
Are you kidding me? I was just watching a video exactly about this subject...
As did I. It's called "Do we even need time zones?" by this channel called WonderWhy, not sure if you've ever heard of them or not
That’s how TH-cam works
I don’t understand the hate of daylight savings. In the peak of summer in Melbourne, Australia the sun will be up from 6am to 8.45pm dst. This is such a better situation than the sun rising at 5am and setting at 7.45. So many more people are up and out and about at 8pm compared to 5am. It makes total sense.
So...What about the fixed 28days/13months calendar? Would it be more beneficial than the one in place?
I feel like if this happened, many people would stop living by the sun, with this pattern being most prevalent where there’s not much natural sunlight in the first place. This could also happen to people who live north of the Arctic Circle or in Antarctica.
good luck fixing the time in argentina, it is a problem in itself. it was tryed to do DST and it were even worst, so i was rollout to before
Tbh the disadvantages of abolishing timezones seem huge compared to the benefits.
The only real disadvantage is the awkwardness of changing the calendar day in the middle of the solar day. Even that is pretty minor. Everything else is just a matter of getting used to different number. The benefits are actually substantial.
Correction: 9:45 Myanmar doesn't use the metric system, it uses its own set of confusing and illogical units.
First Principles
- time is inherently the same for everyone (ignoring physics/spacetime, which is insignificant for everyday life)
- the sun's position in the sky is important to everyone, but it's based on geography. For example, the location of a city (which is why cities map to time zones)
- individuals and organizations agree on times for events. Some of these, such as the start of a calendar day, are specific to a location
- a system used to express time (such as yyyy-MM-dd hh:mm:ss + time zone) should communicate both the universal time and the sun's position specific to a location
Business hours (and their relationship to daylight savings time) are just agreed upon times for events (specific to a location). To provide flexibility, they could be changed by the businesses themselves. This can be done independently of the system used to express time (i.e. whether we get rid of time zones or not).
And thus, WonderWhy returns to his cave where he works away at his next video
I know one sector that does not use local time zones-amateur radio communications on shortwave. Everything is in UTC there.
And this gives me an idea for how to get the best of both worlds: Use two clocks; one set to local time, and the other set to UTC.
Have i died or time travelled. Because you just uploaded and now i feel complete
1:42 isn't there a massive problem with this? Like needing to re-learn what your supposed to do at each time of the day if you change country or region?
There is an error at the beginning of the video. The minute hands for all of the clocks are the same, even though New Delhi uses UTC+5:30.
I Thank You for making this. This is exactly what I've needed to solve the problem in front of me. Much appreciated. FF@ 6:36 btw
The 2nd segment of this video on DST is really good! Keep it up!
I was JUST thinking about this!!!!!
Ever heard of Swahili time? East African timezone is UTC+3, and clocks are set as such, however, when speaking Swahili, people use numbers offset by six, so that, for example, 10am would be read as "hour four" and 6pm would be "hour 12". This is because Swahili speakers never gave up sunrise and sunset based timekeeping. Also, one can add "morning", "afternoon", "night" etc to avoid ambiguity if desired.
DST in U.S. state of GA will not be observed in the future.
GMT/UTC masterrace.
9:44 it isn't that awkward of a mix and they teach metric in schools these days. Pretty much just oldies refusing to give up imperial.
7:04 I like how the new "9 to 5" in New Zealand is still 9 to 5, even if it's PM.
Your argument about staggering out work start times is a non sequiter with the time zones issue. People go to work around the same time partly because of when the sun rises and sets. There's also the benefit of having people physically together at the same time to work on projects etc.
People go to work whenever the business wants to operate and that can vary but for the most part won't change much. What would change is that when someone in Hawaii tells a colleague in New York to call him at eight-thirty you wouldn't have to go through the "What time is it there now?" conversation and then try to remember the stagger rate. You're much more likely to make the call at the correct time without screwing it up.
I agree that DST is not necesary, however I am absolutely for keeping Summer time all year round. I am in France, which is already about an hour ahead of solar time, and I personally think that having sunlight in the evening is much better than in the morning (even on winter solstice, if we kept summer time, the sun would be up between 9 45 and 17 54, which I muuuuch prefer to having sunlight from 4 43 to 21 00 on the summer solstice)
I don't see how it would simplify communications across large areas. It is not like everyone will be working about 9-5 in the UK. You would still have to know when the other person works but now, instead of just have a (nearly round) hour extension it could be anything.
The problem now is that when someone in a distant location tells you they work 8am-4pm you then have to convert to your local time in order to figure out when to communicate. That conversion process invites error which could result in inefficiencies (lost opportunities, anger and disappointment). If someone says they work from 2100-0500 and you're on the same clock then you don't have to calculate anything.
@@alanfriesen9837 fair I guess, but basically all scheduling is done via software which will convert the time zones for you
@@sebastianmalton5967 I live on the West Coast (USA) and I'm constantly running into references to east coast businesses and government offices where I'm told they're open til say 3pm. I have to be aware that I've got to call before noon.
When I call my in-laws in China it's even more complicated. I have to figure out if it's the same day and whether I'm fourteen hours behind or is it thirteen or fifteen (Gotta love Daylight saving). I would dearly love to go to a single global clock.
Abolishing timezones is a bad idea and the points in this video were great. For example, if I want to call my relatives overseas, all I have to remember is that they are 7 hours ahead of me. If its 10AM where I am, its 5PM where they are so its a good time to call them, If its 9PM here its 4AM there, not a good time to call. With universal time if its noon where I am (UTC 5PM) I know its 5PM over there but I would have no idea if its a good time to call them, so I still have to remember when noon is where my relatives live. DST sound like a good idea on paper, but because not everyone uses it and some places start using it a week before others it makes thing very complicated. Half hour times zones should be abolished and current ones should be fixed. I have heard some people say that all timezones should be straight longitude lines and not follow borders but that is a bad idea. If a time zone splits a city's metro area it would be a logistical nightmare. They should still follow borders but it should still make sense. For example, France and Spain should use UTC +0 instead of +1 and so on. As a final note, UTC is a great tool for scheduling international events or events on the internet and I think everyone should know their timezone's UTC offset. (EST is UTC -5)
The problem is not that we have different time zones, it is that the Earth is a globe and it can't be noon at the same time everywhere. Ending time zones wouldn't solve the core problem, which is unsolvable.
You are confusing times zones with scheduled work hours, which is a very odd mistake to make.
No, it's just one part of the argument. It just so happens that it's a big part of the discussion.
It's like arguing that a universal "north" makes left and right meaningless because there is only east and west.
9:45 should have Canada be yellow as well. We need to know metric for long distances, imperial for short, and metric for REALLY short. Weight is in pounds for people, but grams for food.
11:00 so true
IF DST is finally abolished at least in this country we should stay stuck on the DST bracket though. I hate it being dark by 5:30 pm.
i cant believe he uploaded twice in 6 months, its not possible