Intermittent Fasting (Fast Feast Repeat Review) and Fast Start (28 Day Start)
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- I have started Intermittent Fasting after reading Fast. Feast. Repeat. This video as an overview of my excitement surrounding Fast. Feast. Repeat and finishing the Fast Start 28 Day Fast. I cannot wait to continue seeing weight loss and health benefits from my daily clean Intermittent Fasting. Gin Stephen's book is amazing. I have been doing daily fasts (also known as time restricted feeding) for nearly 5 weeks.
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If you're interested in seeing how I am progressing and changing week to week, feel free to check out the intermittent fasting playlist:
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Hi! I just saw this video, it’s about the third or fourth video of yours that I have seen. I am right at 4 weeks and have been having many of the same thoughts you shared, so it was so easy listening to you share. I just want to say that I really enjoy your style of articulation. I can sit and watch a video and feel like a friend is talking. Fast talking style but even when you say rambling, you are still on point and never boring. I think I’ll watch all of your fasting stuff. So I guess I have to say I’m a fan! I’ll send best wishes to you and your whole family, greetings from California, and thanks for doing TH-cam!!
One week in OMAD and I’m glad I found this. I was getting discouraged because my weight had not budged and now you’re giving me the strength to keep going. Thank you for this video. I’m almost in tears.
@ Chrystal Leveille Even when you are not losing weight on the scale, you can still be losing inches instead
with OMAD. Every single person's body is different. There is a "whoosh" thing that can happen too. A lady fasted 3 weeks and lost no weight. After that third week she lost 6 pounds. Her body did not release the water in her fat cells until the end of her third week. I started my third week this last Friday and doing OMAD 20: 4. So many health benefits to this! weight loss and inches lost is just the bonus!
I cant believe I FINALLY found someone who I can watch on TH-cam who shares my lifestyle!! Im so grateful to have found you!!!!!!!
Welcome Shay!! Also, love your name, we ALMOST named my oldest Shay.
I have and still do love you videos. I just sent this particular video to my daughter in law. You are so inspiring and so natural in presentations. My son sent your video to me a few weeks ago. I’m buying that book. I just watched your 100 hr Fast. Good for you and good luck on your last 26 hrs.
I have been fasting for nearly 3 months now, and I love it!! I feel sooooo much better. You were the first IF video I ever watched. THANKS FOR SHARING!!
I just found YOU and Gin yesterday! I am currently listening to the audiobook and loving it! I am post-menopause with 50 pounds to lose and have tried EVERYTHING! But this clicks with me...I have been IF-ing for 2 weeks but not much progress; now I know why! Not a clean fast! I am ready to finish the book and begin the 28-day challenge! So glad I found you and your videos for support! ❤️
I am so glad I found your channel. I love how you do IF. Today starts my first week of doing IF . Last week was just not snacking between meals which was hard for me but I did it. Keep sharing all your great tips!! They are soo helpful. Today I just finished a 19 hour fast! Had the cream cheese on bread with cucumbers and tomatoes! What a treat!!! Ty for sharing your journey!!! I follow you on your Aldi channel too!!🌸🥰
I’m so excited I watched your video today!!! I have a very similar story as you. I started IF three weeks ago, and have been trying to research it as much as possible, I’ve been listening to podcasts about it and stumbled across Gin, she’s amazing!!! I’m also 5’10, and 181 lbs, never ever had an issue with my weight until maybe the last 6 yrs.., I have two teenagers, and pre-meno being 48 yrs old so the weight is stubborn to get off. I’m so excited to follow your journey and I’m bound and determined to make this my way of life as well, I love it so far!! I’m going to buy Gin’s book this weekend, can’t wait to read it:)))
YAY!!! So happy you introduced me to this book, thank you!! I am so amazed by all of the true health benefits... WOW!! Am looking forward to this journey with you!
I am so excited, too!!
I am watching your earlier fasting videos after trying fasting again for the third time. You have been a regular part of my day for a good while and I love how you share your experiences with food and fasting. I remember being in several Facebook groups regarding various ways of eating and the group of people who seemed to be the happiest was called Delay Don't Deny. I was always impressed how they were eating what they enjoyed and with good results. I will enjoy seeing how you began your fasting journey and how it progressed. I am learning a lot and I wanted to say thank you. You are having the most fun eating what you love. It doesn't get better than that. I am just getting started again, but I can feel the food rules slipping away. They may never go away completely, but at least now they are not causing as much stress and confusion as they were. All the best to you and your family.
Thank you for your concise, down to earth channel. There are many channels on TH-cam, I find myself watching yours. I like that you refer viewers to the experts, naming your resources. I’ve been fasting for 3 weeks. I haven’t been able to lose weight I gained from the steroids, used during chemotherapy two years ago. I’ve lost 8# so far. It’s been really easy, & I feel much better. I think my body was screaming for it. Thank you.
Just ordered my book. Thank you so much for sharing!!!
Wonderful! That's the only investment needed to start this journey. Isn't that awesome?!
Hey! I just found you. I'm on day 4 of fasting. I've tried it in the past, but I wasn't ready for it mentally. I kept feeling like I was always hungry (mind over matter, I guess)
Now, I totally feel like I already can do this. Day 1 & 2 I had headaches, but by day 3, I was feeling good. Bloat started to go down and I am feeling like I can totally do this. Best of all... I don't feel hungry. I realized I was just eating because I was conditioned to eat 3 meals a day with snacks in-between.
Thanks for sharing your journey- it's definitely inspiring to us women out here looking to get healthy and be at a healthy weight. 💛
I just found yr channel and started IF 20/4 this week. I have been struggling to lose weight since baby#3. I believe this is going to work for me. I enjoy the food freedom while fasting and I enjoy eating what I want during my eating window. It takes all the stew out of it. I am very excited.
I’ve heard a lot about this. Glad you are feeling great with this Jackie!
Thanks Lianne! I am really amazed with how I feel 🥳
I just stumbled across your video.... it was great, thank you! I began researching IF back in August.... but dirty fasting and I was just kind of confused about it all. Yes I was losing a bit of weight and inches....especially my tummy.... it’s flat now! 👍🏼 Anyway I found Gin’s Fast, Feast, Repeat about a week ago.... OMG....I can’t put it down.... love this book and it will be my reference guide from now on. Excited to follow your journey as well. Anyone on the fence or confused about Intermittent Fasting.... get the book and get started, you won’t look back! 😍
So glad to hear your experience and success! Congrats. Welcome to the channel, hope you stick around. and yes, I echo your encouragement to anyone on the fence!
Oh my goodness!!!!! Girl! Yes! I can relate! This is speaking to me! God bless you for opening up! This is SO good!
Thank you Kimberly for sharing and your encouragement 💗💗
Amen
Great! I’ve had this book for awhile. Just re-read it. It’s really good and I’m doing it!
I been watching your OMAD videos and I’m loving what fasting is, from your perspective. I had to find your 1st fasting video! I’m on day two of trying out fasting and so far so good. I’m going to listen to the book you recommended on audio book 😂 I’m to busy to sit and read but can listen to in the car on my way to work. I did ww and lost a lot of weight but had a baby a year ago and tried doing ww and it’s hard to do points right now. I like how you can just have what you like in the eating window and not worry too much! I’m gonna push through and give it a really good try!
Thank you for this video and introducing us to this book. I fount it to be very interesting.
Back to the very beginning!! Awesome! 😊😊👍👍
I’ve enjoyed many, many of your IF journey videos Jackie. You’re a natural on camera. You come across as very real & genuine…which is refreshing. 😊👍
I’m a long time WW’er (lifetime since 2016; have maintained a 50lb loss since October 2016). I started using IF Jan 2020, reading DDD. Now reading FFR. It’s a great tool. I still use and love WW too. I’m a hybrid I guess. 😂
DDD?
Amazing to see that "starting" video 😀
YOU are the reason, I got the book and started intermittent fasting. Thank you!!!
I'm in. I started fasting at the beginning of January (3weeks) and lost 2.5 pounds of my 10pound goal. I just love it , eating what I want , how much and when with the big plus of no calories/carb etc counting. I lol when someone tells me I need to do low carb. , that ain't happening, I love bread too much. the weight is coming off my belly fat and I'm very pleased. I don't feel that hungry I think because I am having caffeine withdrawal. I am also losing my taste for coffee, after breakfast I have some coffee and it doesn't taste all that great to me. I can see this becoming a lifestyle and am def going to order and read the book. when I go to see my dr in May and tell him I have gone off my statin at least I will be at a better weight so he can support my decision. thanks for this video. I understand your excitement about this.
I have been doing a little fasting with the Keto diet :) and I do like it!! It took me a little while to get to train myself not to snack:):):) I am a big snacker :) I am so happy you are feeling well doing this :):)
I started intermittent fasting on October 31, 2020 and I absolutely love it! I love that you’re making videos about it. I somehow came across your Aldi videos and you mentioned it in there. I’m definitely gonna get the book. I’m also from Michigan 👍🏻
You got this! How cool that we have so much in common! :)
The book is great!
I think another reason to love fasting is bc, if you think about it, you can easily incorporate it into your channel’s content too. You don’t have to make special recipes or shop specifically for “fast friendly foods” or whatever. You can share all of your normal things but easily add this in. I like that. You really struck a chord with me when you were talking about dieting & being consumed with your food choices all day. I’ve never been successful on a diet for that very reason. I’ve always said that I think about food from the moment I wake up until I lay down to sleep at night. That makes dieting harder for me bc I feel like my whole life is consumed with food....which makes me feel like I’m starving all of the time & I feel deprived. It’s awful. I’m excited to be able to follow along and see how this works for you and I’m definitely buying that book! Lol.
YES!! I am so pleased that I don't have to make any type of certain foods to be successful with this. Of course I know that my success will be greater/faster with best choices. But fasting alone is so helpful that I won't feel stuck.
My favorite part of the entire book was when Gin wrote how IF relieved "decision fatigue" that many people face with standard diets. And it was such an "YES THAT'S ME" moment!! I am NOT obsessing over every choice now! It's either time to eat or not!!
So excited you're excited for my journey! Let me know what you think of the book!! Thanks Amanda!
I've been IF since January 👍 I have never read the book though, so maybe I should! I've watched YT videos and it was so overwhelming, so I just do what works for me. Glad you're liking it!
Read the book!
I love this book so much and am now a true believer. I got it on Audible but then also ordered the book on Amazon. I'm in my 3rd week and I already feel so much better. For me, I had IF'd (I thought) but didn't clean fast. That has been the game changer for me. I feel amazing, too! I think I've done every diet out there and YUCK. Never again! They all made me more obsessed with food and hungry all the time. Thanks for sharing and I'm going to follow you!
Wonderful! So glad you're feeling better, too :)
I am absolutely holding my breath waiting for my book to come now! I have heard bare minimum about this but I need to do something now! Thanks for sharing and I will be waiting for your next video also!!😘💕💞🐝🌺🌻
Meloney!! Your enthusiasm and encouragement is giving me all the feels!! YAY!
I borrowed book from library online
WW was way too confusing for me and I don't like meetings! I felt like I was in a confession booth, and I'm not even Catholic, lol!
Here the thing too. WW is a business, they honestly dont want people to reach their full goals. They make things very obscure for a reason. You may lose a bit of weight to keep you on it but then you stall and/or even gain back. Then they blame you and your “will power” even though their system makes no sense. That way you keep coming back because you believe you can through will power reach your goals even though biology is against you.
Comment only: the meetings are optional. You can do a digital only version...if that helps.
Weight watchers used to be simple. I was a member in the late 90’s and again in 2008. Now they went bananas. Literally. My mom said she joined and she can have fruit fruit fruit. It’s a free no point food. Bull crap. Even when they changed the program to include free no pints for fruits and veggies I would still do it the old way and count the points for those items. Oh, and I loved going in person. It held me accountable. I knew someone would be seeing my weight at the end of the week and I would stick to the diet because I didn’t want to be embarrassed that I gained weight when I went for my weekly weigh in.
@@bdavison31 I think going to the meeting was a positive for me. It kept me from falling off of the diet.
Lol 😂
I found your channel not looking for this...just subscribed..but boy or boy I am so glad I found you. Gin Stephens book got me started 2 yrs ago on IF & I lost 80 lbs in 16 mnths. I luv luv IF. I eat omad mostly..sometimes 2mad now in a 6-8 hour window. As I now do resistance training. I can eat whatever I desire in my eating window & have not gained an ounce back in 2 yrs.
This book is very good and it’s got some good information.I’m just loving it
Her books are amazing! Changed the way I eat! So many other benefits besides weight loss! Her podcasts are awesome too! I’ll be an IFer for life! It’s just how I eat now, don’t even have to think about it
Agree with all that you've said!
I followed the same path as you did and I can tell that Intermittent Fasting works just like magic.
Watching your first video on IF to celebrate your 1000th day fasting❤❤❤
New here and got the book been watching dr mindy Plez also and just starting not like real overweight but want to get healthy thank u for your videos
I got a fatty liver after pregnancy as well too! There is something about pregnancy that can impact our bodies … I was obese but before that I was overweight and never had a fatty liver! And you’re 5’10! I knew you were tall! Nice to see how you started off ❤
Thankyou I am very interested in IF xx I will be watching 😀
Just subbed! Love your style of videos. And your skin looks so beautiful from IF i assume!
Thanks for subbing! My skin has certainly improved since fasting! :)
Reading it now. So excited...ty
I am reading the book. Very enlightening.
I have been fasting inconsistently for about 1 year. I believe it does work. But i need to stay committed. I started drinking apple cider vinegar and lemons with tumuric. I guess i can break my fast with that. I am a black coffee lover. I will order the book and start again
Thanks!!
I break my fast at noon and then I drink 2 tbsp of ACV and lemon juice. Really helps me with curbing appetite and helps me fast longer. Thank God I love vinegary flavor. I started doing keto 4 days ago. She is right. All I'm thinking about it what too eat but I'm sure I'm overthinking it.
Hi Jackie i started IF 4 weeks ago and have not looked back. I have not read Fast Feast Repeat yet but have read Delay don’t deny which has become a bit of a mantra to me. 4 weeks in and I’ve lost nearly 8 pounds! Looking forward to watching your progress
Congrats on starting Annie! I am so glad to have you join me on the journey here on YT! Please keep me up to date with your progress, too!
I love this🤗thank youuuuu😍🌷
I'm type 2 diabetic and I do have a fatty liver also and I am overweight so I really need this I've only been on it about 3 or 4 days I don't know if I'm doing it right but I'm listening to you when you are on your videos and thank you for the information
Hi Jackie... Love your channel and I have to tell you how much you have motivated me. I have been doing 16/8 IF for about seven weeks and have only lost three lbs... Is it normal to start out so slowly? As long as I keep losing I don't really mind... This is something I can and will probably do for the rest of my life! Thanks for so much good information and for being such a motivating force!!
I have seen so many people share they lost slowly. Also, I know personally, a 16/8 eating window wouldn’t be a huge weightloss window for me (I can/would eat too much in a daily 8 hour window)
But I agree if it works well, slow weight loss is still progress
So the date is September 2022 and I found you because I am intermittent fasting now and you popped up when I was studying Dr. Jason Fung and I will save it I really love your videos too and so now I’ve subscribed to you
I recently gained 25 lbs and feel awful. I just started IF but haven't been consistent with the fast. I am not giving up, today I start fasting at 6 pm- 9 am. I'm worth it.
I just started the book. Starting tomorrow!
How is it going?! YAY you!
I actually bought this same book today and I know I can do this as I'm not a breakfast eater and I don't get hungry until the afternoon I'm on the first chapter
I want to listen and learn as much as I can I'm a type 2 diabetic I'm overweight high blood pressure everything and I want to learn how to fastening what time to do it how long to do it I need somebody to help me understand fastening. And I love everything you do the meals the the clothes everything helps me a lot and I do also have a fatty liver thank you for listening to me and you have a blessed day
I had heard that I had a fatty liver awhile back while getting an ultrasound of the abdomen. I have never been big and didn't drink either. Think it was from a lifetime of a kove of candy. It went away sometime ago after stopping most of the sugar.
Wow cool Jackie!!!!
You are glowing by the way!
Been doing it for months and it great.
Congrats!!
I am on board. I got the kindle edition of the book. I need to lose 30 pounds.
Just ordered the book
I do dry fast in ramadan and started intermittent fasting for two and hald months lost 16 pounds.
I am on day 4 and for sure feeling like a slug, for the first two days I was chewing gum then I saw one of your other videos and have stopped the last two days. But I am feeling very wore down from the not eating... pushing through so far!
Me too! I’m on day two and I am slugggggish. Can’t wait for it to go away. How are you feeling now? Did you stick with it?
@@kimhayes6565 I did I made it to one month before finding out I have something that I cannot fast with so I have had to switch what I am dong which sucks. This was the first time I found something that worked so well for me
Just reading the book. I can't believe I have been involved in the exercise physiology world for so long and ignored what this research really means. I'm changing that TODAY!
Good for you!! I too find it hard to believe this isn't more mainstream in healthcare and exercise!
You look good, Jackie
I am grateful for your sharing. Feeling like I can really do this. What I am wondering about: I too prefer to eat in the evening, however, I feel really hungry the next morning when I've eaten a big meal the night before. H ave you experienced this? Will that go away?
I do believe that will change as you adapt to the lifestyle. I eat later too, but rarely feel hungry in the morning anymore.
Hey Jackie . What program do you use to edit your video ? Thank you
I just finished the audible of FFR and I am on Day 2 of clean fast…kinda rough towards the end…:/. I have intermittent fasted before but not clean fasted…always started the morning with my water, lemon, ACV, stevia and then coffee with stevia so made it a little more tolerable…I still can’t stand the black coffee!! 😫
I think when you have children get older it’s harder to lose weight I’m 48 & have had so many health problems in the last 2 years that I’ve never had before. I started IF this month August 21 & I’m going to try it for 28 days if it works then it definitely will be my new lifestyle.
How did it go? I'm 43 and growing through the same.
Keep in mind no changes may happen the first 28 days she’s clear about that in the book ;) after the 28 days is when the magic usually starts
Thank you. I actually listened via Audio Book through my library. Amazing book. It's also free to listen to on TH-cam.
Wonderful! I love Gin's voice, I bet the audio book is an easy listen!
can you please send me the audio book link?
But too much coffee isn't good
Thanks for sharing your experience once I lost all my weight through kero and 24 hour fast I will eat everything and continue fasting 💪
decision fatigue... perfect termology... however, I am also getting it with IF trying to decide my window... that's why I'm revisiting the 101 phase of your journey... BTW notice you have a fabulous tan... is it natural?
I've been on intermittent fasting (OMAD) for three weeks and I've lost about 5 pounds. ❤
That’s how I feel about ww too. Both of the books from Gin arrived today.
I just ordered the book after reading a magazine article.
How is your fasting going (assuming you started!) Hope you love the book :)
@@FastingFoodie I am still reading the book. Should be done with it this weekend. I will keep you posted. Thank you for asking.
Did you go right into starting eating at 4 pm. I have gotten to 16/8. I start eating g at 1. Been doing for i the and have not lost weight yet. But i do put Milo in my water and collagen in my tea. Thx
I planned to do 4-10, but the longer I am practicing IF, the more flexible I am with it. As long as I get my 18 hours fasted, I open my window when it works well with the day. Sometimes I open at noon and close at 5, other days I open at 4 and close at 6:30. Really depends and I try listening to my body.
Also, I add NOTHING to my water or coffee. I really feel like the "clean fast" allows me to fast longer and get more benefits. I highly recommend trying the Milo and collagen.
Hi I have a question? About my non-success? I just don’t know if I should ask it here or somewhere else, don’t want to be negative, guess I’ll read the community guidelines!
I’ve got goal of ADF as I regularly do 20 hours
do they have this book in Audio? that isn't going to cost me n arm n a leg? TIA I'd love to be able to listen on my commute to and from work ^_^
Here is the audio book link. amzn.to/2QambYg
I also love her podcast "Intermittent Fasting Stories" and those are free. I have listened to them all, and they're great to listen to on commutes in my opinion. Hope you check both out :)
Would you please share tips how to make meals and feed kids and avoid eating their leftovers or tasting while cooking?
I’m a Omad but with cheating! 😅
I love IF! So great for your cells! But I've always heard of a 16/8 style. Is there any particular reason why you're going 18/6? Just curious 😊
I am truly blown away by all the benefits I have read about. Gin outlines so many, which of course can be more beneficial than weight loss. Do you practice IF regularly, too? As I was reading different approaches (16:8, 18:6, etc) I just felt that 6 hour eating window seemed challenging, but do-able. So I decided to make it my goal. It works really well for me, I am busy throughout the day and get to have an open window in the evening which is when I tend to relax more (& also enjoy dinner with my family!) So far I love it, but it was just a trial that worked out :)
@@FastingFoodie I have a few times, but ended up stopping. It has been difficult for me to stick to because my youngest REFUSES to wean, and nursing hunger is next level. That being said I was actually planning to start again tomorrow! I usually do a 1-9 window.
Omg I wouldn’t be able to ever fast while nursing! I was too hungry for that. Good for you even trying.
I’m new at intermittent fasting , and I have ordered the book. But can you please tell me if I can add powdered collagen to my black coffee? There is no sugar in it.
I read this book and no you shouldn’t add anything. While your fasting, she recommends a clean fast, that means water, plain sparkle water(no fruity flavours) black tea or plain coffee. You can break your fast with the collagen. The clean fast also makes you less hungry. Hope that helps!
I have been binge watching your channel all weekend. I know you say that you don't count what you eat. Is it possible to feel like binging in your eating window? That's what concerns me that I won't be successful because I will eat too many calories in that window and won't be in a calorie deficit. Have you ever counted the calories you ate in your window?
You may do that initially, but keep with it and in a short time your stomach will shrink and you won't be able to eat as much n your window.
If she has a doctorate then she is a doctor. She is not a medical doctor but she can use the terminology "doctor" in her name. It means that she has studied to the highest level possible for her choose field. Teachers and Nurses can earn doctoral degrees. Pharmacist and Lawyers have to get doctoral degrees to get certified.
That's the genius of fasting... You learn what is best for you. I drink my coffee with favored cream but no sugar cause sugar is too sweet for me. I vary my fasting schedule and don't keep up with the windows by only eating when I am hungry. So if I get hungry but can't stop to eat I just extend my fast. If on the other hand I only have 10 minutes to eat then I eat in 10 minutes.
Sometimes people get hung up on whether it's a clean or dirty fast but I look at it like this there are all types of fast: clean/dirty, dry/water, veggie only/meat only, IF, OMAD, ADF and so many eating/fasting windows and no one is the same. Take your time, do your research and find out works best for you and your body. It's all trial and error.
Fasting is NOT a diet. It's a lifestyle change. Fasting is learning to eat less. In America we overdose on food, eating too much and too often. Remember information (applied knowledge of what works for you) is the key. From there gleam what helps you reach your goals and throw out the rest.This is a marathon and a lifestyle change or you will be right back here trying to do a quick fix. Don't beat yourself up for slip ups. Just reset and start again. Detoxing and learning how to live differently isn't easy but well worth it.
what fasting app do you use.
How much coffee (approx) do you drink a day? Where in Michigan are you? (I'm near Hillsdale) ;)
I’d say on average probably 3/4 pot daily. It’s more in the winter because I love the warmth. I do have decaf later in the day.
I’m in Kalamazoo 😀
Refer to Jason Fung 👌👌👌👌
Yes, I am currently reading the Obesity Code!
Does it affect our hormones, especially in long-term?
How often did you weigh when started
Can you share what you are eating. Are you doing keto? Dr Berg says if you do a high carb diet with IF it won’t work.
Yes I can; in my weekly videos I actually give at least 2-3 days of what I eat in my window. But I am not following low carb. I haven't read anything from Dr. Berg. I eat my normal diet, I am limiting/holding off n alcohol mostly. For the most part, my only major change is when I eat, getting in the long fasts and having a 500 calorie down day once a week.
I need to start drinking nothing but water during my fast period.
Hi wer can we get this book?
What are the results
Yes WW works until it doesn’t…counting fatigue…there are the few who can do it longterm…repeaters all the time…that’s how they make money
During your 6 hours of eating can you drink whatever you want?
Essentially yes, but that doesn't mean I hog out each day. Also, for me personally, I find 6 hours to be too long. I like a smaller window which (16 months into fasting it has naturally changed into this)
If she has a doctorate then she is a doctor. However, she is not a MD which means medical doctor. She is an educational doctor.
Weight watchers depresses me. Never again.
Intermittent fasting is how everyone ate until the 70s…3 meals a day, or 2, no snacking…everyone acts like this is NEW🙄
Get to the point!