They could get creative, and look at different parts of different time periods. They are being quite specific about when within the period they are discussing they would be going to. Fingers crossed. I really like these, too.
@@turtletom8383 Please point out specifically where in this entire series PBS Studios have said it's MEANT as cheap attraction, otherwise you're speaking with no basis. I feel like it's a fun twist on what is otherwise Yet Another Documentary covering environments, flora and fauna of our planet's past. Giving it a first person perspective, as well as stimulating the roleplaying kind of imagination of the participants feels fresh in my opinion and I like to imagine myself tagging along as the silent friend. With a traditional documentary you don't get this sort of involvement from the audience.
I love these thought experiments, but it's also funny to imagine that you have the intelligence, training, and resources to build the requisite time machine, but then choose to drive it directly into an extinction event.
Plus the next one--if I was going to go anywhere in the Cretacious it would probably not be on the island where I know the apex predator pterosaurs are going to be.
@Chameleonradio apply sci-fi logic here large catastrophic events cause distortions in time that time travelers get pulled towards. See? Plot hole closed.
An interesting one for them to do would be could a Modern urban human being survive the exact same environment that Australopithecus lived in. Naked and Afraid in the African Savanna
I love that the basic design principles of the branches are fairly solid from really early on. But everything Triassic and before just screams "First Draft".
I wish I could see the video of some post-human Kallie Moore in 3.9 million years doing a "Can You survive the Mid-Holoscene/Anthropocene?" with a Hank Green head in a jar. It would be so hard describing a "typical" human life. Life in a logging camp in Brazil and a Saudi prince's typical Tuesday I imagine is quite different and that's just right now at this moment.
There is an even bigger problem in the triassic oxygen levels were 12%. You would have to rapidly evolve to handle or you would slowly suffocate over a few days.
Wait, we’re allowed to take ONE item with us… if you really wanted, you could choose a giant bottle of vitamin C supplements 😂 I haven’t watched the whole video yet, so I’m gonna hold off on speculating what I’d bring, since so far my items have been period specific. Like witaf would actually benefit most & help us survive in the Cambrian 😂, there’s just too many problems to overcome… I feel like we should at least get two in some of these hypothetical journeys 😁
Rose colored glasses am I right? 😉 I really am enjoying this series. It's a great way to explore these time frames and put them into perspective with the various situations and events one could encounter. That said, you can't escape our biggest foe, diarrhea. Humans are very intelligent and adaptable, but we are also just squishy bags of meat. The ingenuity humans have ultimately comes down to our social lives. Coming up with methods and sources for all of your lifetime needs and maintaining these everyday would likely take more time than you have. Securing adequate long-term shelter and maintaining it. Finding and securing clean fresh water and maintaining it. Finding a varied nontoxic diet that provided adequate levels of necessary nutrients and compounds, like vitamin C, and maintaining it. Obtaining materials for protective clothing, constructing them, and maintaining them. Finding materials for tool use, constructing them, and maintaining them. Deciding how to deal with waste safely and maintaining it. All of these tasks are important in the short-term and also the long-term. They also take a lot of time, especially working from only raw materials. Getting sick, especially with diarrhea just once, could quickly destroy everything. Your shelter may be uncleanable. Your food and water contaminated by you. Your simple clothing, a mess. Fail to maintain yourself and all of your needs just once while sick and that's pretty much a game over. Humans can only human with other humans. Even the most remote living people rely on other people. Whether its a solo "Alaskan/Siberian Mountain Man" or someone living on North Sentinel island, your basic survival relies on a community of people. You can't do and make everything yourself, especially with diarrhea. You will get diarrhea.
Any animal that has existed at a time that predation existed will fight like hell if they feel like their life is on the line, no matter how little or feeble the attempt may seem to the other animal. As a human, our strength is in strategic thinking, social groups/communication, dexterity and fortitude. My kids were telling me that the big topic of conversation at school lately is speculating what animal you could beat in a fight. I had to explain to them that as a human, small and squishy, they are not succeeding in hand-to-hand combat with anything bigger than 20-30 lbs and even then they're not coming out of it unscathed. So, while I doubt that a single person could survive the Triassic, when you've got two humans I feel the odds shift in humanity's favor.
Even a simple weapon like a sharpened stick or a club, or a rock would give a single human a big advantage though. Not like you'd need to grab the animal with your bare hands and like choke it to death or something. And many prey animals first response would be to run away, even if you just speared it with a stick. And there's plenty of small animals you could kill with just a well-thrown rock, could likely get enough sustenance from them to not need to try to take down truly dangerous large animals.
@@jaydonbooth4042 Modern animals have learned to fear humans even if they could easily take down one of us alone, though. Humans pretty much kill competitors on sight. Ancient animals wouldn't know that and would think we look like easy prey.
Most people today can't survive a week alone in a well-kept forest without predators. In every other time in the distant past I give the same people half an hour.
Indeed, but they only mentioned ginkgos and ferns. Maybe kallie has already given up on cycads (last episode they talked about the issue but didn't even try to solve it)
Absolutely the most fun so far in this series, but wouldn't you want to go over to the Anthropology dept. and find those who can teach you to pressure flake pointy and sharpedged tools , make strings and scrape tree limbs into bows and arrows in prior to departing on your trip?
I like your idea! I was also thinking why not learn to make ceramics the old fashion way? Then they could make their own dishes without having to make them out of animal parts that might be dangerous to get. If they are worried about paradoxes they could destroy the evidence before leaving.
mb's little "no.... it's all we have left...." KILLS me also at the end of the episode i thought "ooh i know hatzig island!!! because of.... oh. oh NO"
They sure did, survived every step of the way in this horror of an evolutionary battle between predator & prey…. Now we’re the top apex predators in the world, solely because our ancestors benefited so much from the evolution of larger & larger brains to evade predation, that we leaned so hard into the specialization of intelligence, it actually allowed us to become apex predators without requiring the personal weapons (sharp teeth, claws, etc) typical of every other apex predator known to man! Seriously, how cool is that with our soft, fragile little bodies!! 😂 Our ape ancestors went from regular food sources for other predators, to THE top predator on earth! Sure it’s unfortunate that the combination of our high intelligence and superstitious remnants of our more primitive selves is without a doubt driving the earth towards another ELE… but hey, the planet will eventually recover, and new animals will emerge and restart the process of predator vs prey evolution again over the course of the next 500 million years or so, or however long it takes before either the sun swallows the earth, or a collision with the andromeda galaxy wipes it out, whichever may come first. But humans will be LONG gone by then anyways so at least we don’t have to worry about experiencing it. But just imagine if the course of life on earth was, or is, altered in such a way where intelligent beings evolve right before one of those events takes place… imagine how TERRIFYING it would be knowing that was coming, and that there wasn’t a damn thing you could do to stop it. Let’s all just be grateful for that, even as we drive our poor descendants into a different kind of terrifying hell… but hey, this is what WE (well not all of us) chose for them, cuz the planet is controlled by people who care more about their own wealth and selfish desires than the wellbeing of literally every life form on earth… so perhaps our inevitable destruction of the planet and extinction is a blessing in disguise for every other life form that survives and evolves in the hundreds of millions of years after we’re gone 🤷♀️
New episode in the Surviving Deep Time series! Hell yeah! Kallie, great work hosting this show, Michelle, glad to see your second appearance, on with the show!!
I know yall aren't climate people, but why does the climate not get more talk? Sea temps at 104°f would theoretically spawn a legendary category 6 hurricane with almost an infinite amount of open warm water to strengthen over. Convective systems over land would be insane too. Boiling hot and humid tropical exterior, millenia long droughts in the desert interior. And thats just baseline in a rapidly changing extinction level climate
In the End Triassic? You should be able to, I don’t think that’s much of an issue past the Cambrian and before/after whatever tf took place that caused the great dying extinction… but I could be wrong.
A lot of bacteria is opportunistic meaning. It's not a question of whether the bacteria would know what to do with us, but whether our immune system would know how to protect us from a type of opportunistic bacteria or fungus which went extinct millions of years ago.
We have a near-infinite capability of responding to antigens through somatic B-cell hypermutation. If anything bacteria are much more limited in that regard. Fungi fare very poorly at infecting any warm-blooded creatures.
Speaking of Ginkgo seeds, they often appear in Cantonese congee... And in a Tempura restaurant in Tokyo I had an autumn-limited set meal that had battered ginkgo seeds - they taste okay.
You may want to edit the part at 6:11 where you are discussing early crocodilians. You show a picture of Boverisuchus but they didn’t evolve until the early Eocene. Very easy mistake to make given just how many croc relatives lived in both time periods.
Wooo Ghost Ranch! They used to offer a short paleontology course in the summers - I got to attend one year and help put a plaster jacket on what I believe was an aetosaur fossil. Again, for a non-living souvenir of this trip, I want a video of one of these massive volcanic eruptions in progress.
Getting water isn't as hard if you choose a forest. Seep springs would very common and shallow streams would also be prevelant in hilly and submountainous areas. There is a benefit in that the water is safer to drink and be around. A great place would be somewhere like west virginia, tennessee, and kentucky all the way to the ozarks and ouachitas.
I always like this experiment with a human from like 20,000 bc. When we were still mostly insync with nature but still had all the evolutionary adaptations that allowed us to conquer the world. But honestly you would probably need to send a whole tribe back
By my calculations the mass of the Central Atlantic Magmatic Province was 9x10^18 kg, compared to the mass of the moon of 7.3x10^22. So about 1/10,000th of the mass of the moon.
Back when I pretended I was a gardener I used the tops of different veggies to make pesto. Carrots were the most enjoyable. The real sorrows are no cheese or decent oil. 😢
Interesting that the End-Triassic was different from now mostly in degree rather than kind: so many of the same environmental stressors. I've been going around saying that humans are the asteroid (comparing us to Chicxulub); now it seems I should be calling humans the modern CAMP!
Triassic mystery: try and find a triassic ornithiscian dino. We only have sauropods and theropod fossils from then and then all of sudden lots of ornithiscians in jurassic
There was one comment made during the podcast about finding out all the things we didn't know existed, the classic Unknown Unknowns. It was a very valid point and that alone would mean your survival during an ancient period would be unlikely, There's a complete crapton of stuff we have no idea existed, and our ability to adapt to those would put survival down to pot luck.
One thing that I think always puts us at a disadvantage in this series is that we assume going back in time alone. As humans, one of our "superpowers" is collaboration/communication so there are many things we could do if we brought even a small group of 5-10 people (maybe the Eons team?) that one person alone couldn't do.
47:54 The Eastern half of my county has some wonderful exposed Triassic formations. I live in Virginia, and the state has a surprising variety of geological eras represented in its geology.
Fun series, thanks! As to surviving, by this era you have resources for at least a bronze age technology, with all the pottery, woodcraft, flint-knapping, rope & fiber crafts, all the fire tech, trapping/netting arts, nautical trades, even potential smelting, and so on. Basically, it's as survivable as the wildlands today.
These make me so happy. It’s a super knowledgeable version of the conversations we had as kids about hypothetical scenarios like zombie apocalypses or, yeah, I guess whether we’d survive in “dinosaur times.” 😊
i propose a bingo board for this series. one of them has to be; ‘youtube comment of someone saying a version of ‘i can’t even survive this year’.’ and ‘guest is visually terrified.’
It's the "Age of Reptiles" because of our current cladistics. Archosaurs/forms/morphs ruled the land and sky for most of the mesozoic but never the sea (besides a brief foray by the metriorhynchids). The seas were ruled by Sauropterygians, Ichthyosaurs & Mosasaurs. The first two may be related to archosauromorphs but the latter were lepidosaurs.
You would first want to bring a light environment protection suit with a respirator-air filter. cooling and heating system, oxygen mix tanks for the suit, polarized goggles, backpack of camping supplies with tools and knives, heavy rifles with both lethal and tranquilizer rounds, water filtration/sterilization gear, walkie talkies(and batteries)... The best place to visit in that period would be any temperate climate area away from CAMP. Gingko seeds need to be boiled after the rind is removed, and ferns need detoxing, as do cycads. Some researchers think that very primitive proteas may have existed then, which may be edible and can contain rich edible nectar. Plus lots of reptiles and freshwater to hunt and detoxify(ccok). There may be edible fungi. You would probably want to see what the small generalist mammals are eating, as large synapsid herbivores, like cows, probably has multiple stomach to detoxify and process vegetation.
We need another series where you guys talk about the edable plans in the different periods and then come up with a recipe for a dish using them and then make the dish with the modern day counterparts of the ingredients. You can dry and the grind the inner bark of conifers to make a type of flour so I'm thinking something fried in conifer flour batter with some kind of Tahini sauce. Yum! It's too bad there's no sugar or honey because if there was we could make a fermented soda from the needles that tastes a bit like sprite.
Pterasaurs wouldn't come anywhere near us. We can throw. They've never encountered an animal that can do that and they would learn to avoid us relatively quickly. Throwing is the real game-changer in human evolution. Every other animal has to get close and intimate in order to kill. We are the only animal that kills at a great distance, negating any immediate danger. We throw things, anything we like, especially if its sharp and pointy, and we can throw it hard, far, and accurate. Forget the brain or the opposable thumb -- the real evolutionary advantage of humans is the rotator cuff.
I don't know, Tibetans and Andeans seem to do just fine (though they do have specific adaptations to support this). Edit: Tibetan plateau is 19-20% O2 whereas end Triassic was like 11%. Yeah, we'd be cooked!
@@deheavon6670 Yep true, but it's relative composition that causes most of the issues (largely chronic anoxia). Pressure causes problems too of course.
you guys always forget about homo sapiens third most op adaptation; the ability throw things accurately with force! That with a pointy stick essentially allowed us to hunt mammoths and ground sloths and anything we could poke.
In the triassic oxygen levels were 12%. Humans would experience lack of coordination and mental impairment. Humans would be dead in a week from lack of oxygen
I live in a place over 4000ft of altitude, oxygen levels are around 17%, we are perfectly fine. Bolivian people live at higher altitudes than the highest mountain in Europe, where oxygen concentration is 10% All cities in colorado are above 3000ft.
That would be about 90 mmHg of arterial oxygen, which would cause some dyspnea (feeling of breathlessness) when exerting but wouldn't be deadly by itself.
I feel like this is getting harder as we go on because the ecosystems are getting more complex and also dangerous. The Cambrian had its challenges but being eaten wasn't one of them.
I won't survive when there are dinosaurs around, because I'd wear my armor, scream at the top of my lungs, and try to fight one with swords and shield and pretend they were dragons, I'd die the first day... Also it would mess around with Paleontologists, an armored guy fighting a Dinosaur.
I really like this series, but it’s sad knowing eventually they’ll run out of periods to cover
They could get creative, and look at different parts of different time periods. They are being quite specific about when within the period they are discussing they would be going to. Fingers crossed. I really like these, too.
I don't like it. I like them covering the periods but the "can you survive it" is dumb and ment as a cheap attraction.
@@turtletom8383 Please point out specifically where in this entire series PBS Studios have said it's MEANT as cheap attraction, otherwise you're speaking with no basis. I feel like it's a fun twist on what is otherwise Yet Another Documentary covering environments, flora and fauna of our planet's past. Giving it a first person perspective, as well as stimulating the roleplaying kind of imagination of the participants feels fresh in my opinion and I like to imagine myself tagging along as the silent friend. With a traditional documentary you don't get this sort of involvement from the audience.
My favorite episode is gonna be when they get to the Holocene and they're like yeah we're not gonna survive this one it's ending pretty badly 😂😂
Time for them to go into video games with lore rich worlds
I love these thought experiments, but it's also funny to imagine that you have the intelligence, training, and resources to build the requisite time machine, but then choose to drive it directly into an extinction event.
Plus the next one--if I was going to go anywhere in the Cretacious it would probably not be on the island where I know the apex predator pterosaurs are going to be.
@@Chameleonradio AGREED.
@Chameleonradio apply sci-fi logic here large catastrophic events cause distortions in time that time travelers get pulled towards. See? Plot hole closed.
Yeah, it kind of went from "can you survive this period" to "can you survive the end times" 😅
FOR SCIENCE
Can I survive The End-Triassic? Dude, I can barely survive if you put me in the middle of nowhere, like right now.
To be fair, this _is_ the sixth mass extinction so future episode on these times incoming. In like a million years or two.
An interesting one for them to do would be could a Modern urban human being survive the exact same environment that Australopithecus lived in. Naked and Afraid in the African Savanna
@@unvergebeneid MMMMmmmmmm hundreds?
Exactly. My car play makes me upset sometime I’m not surviving anything at any time.
@@meteorhero526 maybe I'm more optimistic about the future of podcasting ;D
I love that the basic design principles of the branches are fairly solid from really early on. But everything Triassic and before just screams "First Draft".
Right now, I am trying my best to survive the tomorrow’s exam lol.
Tell your teacher that, in the context of the 500-million-year evolution of life, the test doesn't matter
I felt this. I have an exam tomorrow and Ive also had a stomach bug for the last few days 😭
Same. I'm in electrical engineering, but geoscience is somehow more fascinating
I wish I could see the video of some post-human Kallie Moore in 3.9 million years doing a "Can You survive the Mid-Holoscene/Anthropocene?" with a Hank Green head in a jar. It would be so hard describing a "typical" human life. Life in a logging camp in Brazil and a Saudi prince's typical Tuesday I imagine is quite different and that's just right now at this moment.
I want to see a Hank Green replica at a museum, posed like a raging Tyrannosaurus. 😂😂😂
Earth: “Let's play ‘Everything is lava.’”
Again.
@@OsirisLord Earth seems to really like this game
Feathers and Spikes, all you need is a speakeasy and its the Roaring 200 millions.
I can survive just as soon as I can reevolve my ability to produce vitamin c
There is an even bigger problem in the triassic oxygen levels were 12%. You would have to rapidly evolve to handle or you would slowly suffocate over a few days.
You can get that from the conifer needles and their pollen. Pine needle tea has a lot of vitamin C and is 100% edable.
Hmm, maybe you can just eat a bunch of different animals and hope some of them make their own? 😂
Wait, we’re allowed to take ONE item with us… if you really wanted, you could choose a giant bottle of vitamin C supplements 😂 I haven’t watched the whole video yet, so I’m gonna hold off on speculating what I’d bring, since so far my items have been period specific. Like witaf would actually benefit most & help us survive in the Cambrian 😂, there’s just too many problems to overcome… I feel like we should at least get two in some of these hypothetical journeys 😁
@@jamesricker3997 Even my high altitude living life WOULD NOT PREPARE ME. breathable air indeed.
Yeah, time travelers would have to take a lot of equipment with them to make it. Body armor, water purification, vitamin tablets, MREs
Oxygen concentrators
I was in a pretty bad mood today, but the jolly and silly style of presentation in this video turned it around :)
Thanks
a 55-minute long video by Pbs Eons? LET'S GOO
I’m not in my top 10% of my school, and I’ve never been a scholar. But I love this channel, it’s so entertaining. Thank you PBS Eons.
You don't have to be top 10% to succeed in life. ❤ Being a life long learner is a much better attribute.
Just be curious and never lose that curiosity. You'll be fine.
You don’t need to do well in school to love learning! That’s why we need more channels like this. :)
Rose colored glasses am I right? 😉
I really am enjoying this series. It's a great way to explore these time frames and put them into perspective with the various situations and events one could encounter. That said, you can't escape our biggest foe, diarrhea. Humans are very intelligent and adaptable, but we are also just squishy bags of meat. The ingenuity humans have ultimately comes down to our social lives.
Coming up with methods and sources for all of your lifetime needs and maintaining these everyday would likely take more time than you have. Securing adequate long-term shelter and maintaining it. Finding and securing clean fresh water and maintaining it. Finding a varied nontoxic diet that provided adequate levels of necessary nutrients and compounds, like vitamin C, and maintaining it. Obtaining materials for protective clothing, constructing them, and maintaining them. Finding materials for tool use, constructing them, and maintaining them. Deciding how to deal with waste safely and maintaining it. All of these tasks are important in the short-term and also the long-term. They also take a lot of time, especially working from only raw materials. Getting sick, especially with diarrhea just once, could quickly destroy everything. Your shelter may be uncleanable. Your food and water contaminated by you. Your simple clothing, a mess. Fail to maintain yourself and all of your needs just once while sick and that's pretty much a game over.
Humans can only human with other humans. Even the most remote living people rely on other people. Whether its a solo "Alaskan/Siberian Mountain Man" or someone living on North Sentinel island, your basic survival relies on a community of people. You can't do and make everything yourself, especially with diarrhea. You will get diarrhea.
"Are [the pterosaurs] so big that we'd be something they'd mess with?"
Have you met seagulls?
What I've learned from this video series : don't eat ferns.
Awesome, I’ll make a mental note of that right along with moss… NEVER eat moss apparently either lol
This is my nine year old's favorite series right now.
I love the scene setting, make these pieces so much fun. Keep it up nerds ;)
Any animal that has existed at a time that predation existed will fight like hell if they feel like their life is on the line, no matter how little or feeble the attempt may seem to the other animal. As a human, our strength is in strategic thinking, social groups/communication, dexterity and fortitude. My kids were telling me that the big topic of conversation at school lately is speculating what animal you could beat in a fight. I had to explain to them that as a human, small and squishy, they are not succeeding in hand-to-hand combat with anything bigger than 20-30 lbs and even then they're not coming out of it unscathed. So, while I doubt that a single person could survive the Triassic, when you've got two humans I feel the odds shift in humanity's favor.
Even a simple weapon like a sharpened stick or a club, or a rock would give a single human a big advantage though. Not like you'd need to grab the animal with your bare hands and like choke it to death or something. And many prey animals first response would be to run away, even if you just speared it with a stick. And there's plenty of small animals you could kill with just a well-thrown rock, could likely get enough sustenance from them to not need to try to take down truly dangerous large animals.
@@jaydonbooth4042 Modern animals have learned to fear humans even if they could easily take down one of us alone, though. Humans pretty much kill competitors on sight. Ancient animals wouldn't know that and would think we look like easy prey.
*cries in dodo bird and sea cow*
"RIP to them Synapsids, but I'm built different."
Pineapple is a type of bromeliad. There's a chance that there may be types of plants with edible parts that aren't fruit.
Most people today can't survive a week alone in a well-kept forest without predators.
In every other time in the distant past I give the same people half an hour.
WTF is a "well-kept" forest?
In several European countries, parts of the forests and woodlands are maintained by clearing the undergrowth.
We can call them "civilized" forests.
@@carlettoburacco9235, without the undergrowth, how do you expect to survive, eating the bark of the trees?
Cycads are poisonous but you can eat them if you heavily process them in a long blanching process and then cook the paste.
Indeed, but they only mentioned ginkgos and ferns. Maybe kallie has already given up on cycads (last episode they talked about the issue but didn't even try to solve it)
Love this series. It really helps imagine these different past worlds to hear about the climate, flora and fauna together as one system.
Man. This makes me miss my time at grad school so much. We had such crazy fun convos back then
Absolutely the most fun so far in this series, but wouldn't you want to go over to the Anthropology dept. and find those who can teach you to pressure flake pointy and sharpedged tools , make strings and scrape tree limbs into bows and arrows in prior to departing on your trip?
I like your idea! I was also thinking why not learn to make ceramics the old fashion way? Then they could make their own dishes without having to make them out of animal parts that might be dangerous to get. If they are worried about paradoxes they could destroy the evidence before leaving.
mb's little "no.... it's all we have left...." KILLS me
also at the end of the episode i thought "ooh i know hatzig island!!! because of.... oh. oh NO"
Guys please stop. I can't even survive the anthropocene
To be fair, the same can be said with a lot of other species, unfortunately.
@rockhound4080 sadly true
Well, my ancestors did!
😂
They sure did, survived every step of the way in this horror of an evolutionary battle between predator & prey…. Now we’re the top apex predators in the world, solely because our ancestors benefited so much from the evolution of larger & larger brains to evade predation, that we leaned so hard into the specialization of intelligence, it actually allowed us to become apex predators without requiring the personal weapons (sharp teeth, claws, etc) typical of every other apex predator known to man! Seriously, how cool is that with our soft, fragile little bodies!! 😂 Our ape ancestors went from regular food sources for other predators, to THE top predator on earth!
Sure it’s unfortunate that the combination of our high intelligence and superstitious remnants of our more primitive selves is without a doubt driving the earth towards another ELE… but hey, the planet will eventually recover, and new animals will emerge and restart the process of predator vs prey evolution again over the course of the next 500 million years or so, or however long it takes before either the sun swallows the earth, or a collision with the andromeda galaxy wipes it out, whichever may come first. But humans will be LONG gone by then anyways so at least we don’t have to worry about experiencing it. But just imagine if the course of life on earth was, or is, altered in such a way where intelligent beings evolve right before one of those events takes place… imagine how TERRIFYING it would be knowing that was coming, and that there wasn’t a damn thing you could do to stop it. Let’s all just be grateful for that, even as we drive our poor descendants into a different kind of terrifying hell… but hey, this is what WE (well not all of us) chose for them, cuz the planet is controlled by people who care more about their own wealth and selfish desires than the wellbeing of literally every life form on earth… so perhaps our inevitable destruction of the planet and extinction is a blessing in disguise for every other life form that survives and evolves in the hundreds of millions of years after we’re gone 🤷♀️
psh, the real question is could the end-triassic survive ME?!
...I dont even know what thats supposed to mean lol
New episode in the Surviving Deep Time series! Hell yeah! Kallie, great work hosting this show, Michelle, glad to see your second appearance, on with the show!!
Thank you guys for these videos!!
I know yall aren't climate people, but why does the climate not get more talk? Sea temps at 104°f would theoretically spawn a legendary category 6 hurricane with almost an infinite amount of open warm water to strengthen over. Convective systems over land would be insane too.
Boiling hot and humid tropical exterior, millenia long droughts in the desert interior. And thats just baseline in a rapidly changing extinction level climate
I agree: can I even breathe? Number one.
In the End Triassic? You should be able to, I don’t think that’s much of an issue past the Cambrian and before/after whatever tf took place that caused the great dying extinction… but I could be wrong.
‘Thank you Kallie’ we all say in unison upon seeing this video in our feed
You guys should make this into a dnd session! It could be fun. For you and introduce new folks
Omg I would LOVE that!! @PBS Eons, PRETTY PLEASE DO THIS!!!
very cool idea
Gosh what an idea, that would be so fun!
A lot of bacteria is opportunistic meaning. It's not a question of whether the bacteria would know what to do with us, but whether our immune system would know how to protect us from a type of opportunistic bacteria or fungus which went extinct millions of years ago.
We have a near-infinite capability of responding to antigens through somatic B-cell hypermutation. If anything bacteria are much more limited in that regard.
Fungi fare very poorly at infecting any warm-blooded creatures.
Speaking of Ginkgo seeds, they often appear in Cantonese congee... And in a Tempura restaurant in Tokyo I had an autumn-limited set meal that had battered ginkgo seeds - they taste okay.
You may want to edit the part at 6:11 where you are discussing early crocodilians. You show a picture of Boverisuchus but they didn’t evolve until the early Eocene. Very easy mistake to make given just how many croc relatives lived in both time periods.
Algae? They wouldn’t fossilize well but they would likely be there and abundant. Think Triassic sushi.
As for vessels: there is clay. there is firewood. I think you can figure that one out.
Wooo Ghost Ranch! They used to offer a short paleontology course in the summers - I got to attend one year and help put a plaster jacket on what I believe was an aetosaur fossil.
Again, for a non-living souvenir of this trip, I want a video of one of these massive volcanic eruptions in progress.
Getting water isn't as hard if you choose a forest. Seep springs would very common and shallow streams would also be prevelant in hilly and submountainous areas. There is a benefit in that the water is safer to drink and be around. A great place would be somewhere like west virginia, tennessee, and kentucky all the way to the ozarks and ouachitas.
Personally, I think that unless you go back with a whole raft of skills (hunting, herbology, tool and weapon making, etc.), you are totally screwed.
I always like this experiment with a human from like 20,000 bc. When we were still mostly insync with nature but still had all the evolutionary adaptations that allowed us to conquer the world. But honestly you would probably need to send a whole tribe back
For some reason, this is a 4-minute episode on Spotify.
By my calculations the mass of the Central Atlantic Magmatic Province was 9x10^18 kg, compared to the mass of the moon of 7.3x10^22. So about 1/10,000th of the mass of the moon.
I really hope you don't accidentally kill our direct ancestors.
Back when I pretended I was a gardener I used the tops of different veggies to make pesto. Carrots were the most enjoyable. The real sorrows are no cheese or decent oil. 😢
30:47 sounds like something from Flintstones😂
I need Kallie to write books and narrate them. She has a way with words and her voice is genuinely soothing to me !
these are the best. We need more stuff like this!
I have played Turok: Dinosaur Hunter so yes I could survive the End- triasic.
Can you survive the anthropocene?😢
I LOVE these, they're wonderful to go to sleep too😊
Any reason the podcast version of this is only the intro blurb and not the whole episode?
Serving late triassic ✨️ CAMP ✨️
Interesting that the End-Triassic was different from now mostly in degree rather than kind: so many of the same environmental stressors. I've been going around saying that humans are the asteroid (comparing us to Chicxulub); now it seems I should be calling humans the modern CAMP!
Please upload the whole episode to the podcast and not just the intro! Thank you PBS!!! ❤❤❤❤
Umm, if you can make fire, you can make crude pottery! Find some dang clay!
Triassic mystery: try and find a triassic ornithiscian dino. We only have sauropods and theropod fossils from then and then all of sudden lots of ornithiscians in jurassic
The sheer storytelling in this is my absolute favorite part
There was one comment made during the podcast about finding out all the things we didn't know existed, the classic Unknown Unknowns. It was a very valid point and that alone would mean your survival during an ancient period would be unlikely, There's a complete crapton of stuff we have no idea existed, and our ability to adapt to those would put survival down to pot luck.
13:00 "Oh, we are going to go mad. Oh well, maybe that is for the best." *casually takes a sip from a glass tankard shaped like a boot* :)
One thing that I think always puts us at a disadvantage in this series is that we assume going back in time alone. As humans, one of our "superpowers" is collaboration/communication so there are many things we could do if we brought even a small group of 5-10 people (maybe the Eons team?) that one person alone couldn't do.
47:54 The Eastern half of my county has some wonderful exposed Triassic formations. I live in Virginia, and the state has a surprising variety of geological eras represented in its geology.
Fun series, thanks! As to surviving, by this era you have resources for at least a bronze age technology, with all the pottery, woodcraft, flint-knapping, rope & fiber crafts, all the fire tech, trapping/netting arts, nautical trades, even potential smelting, and so on. Basically, it's as survivable as the wildlands today.
These make me so happy. It’s a super knowledgeable version of the conversations we had as kids about hypothetical scenarios like zombie apocalypses or, yeah, I guess whether we’d survive in “dinosaur times.” 😊
i propose a bingo board for this series. one of them has to be; ‘youtube comment of someone saying a version of ‘i can’t even survive this year’.’ and ‘guest is visually terrified.’
It's the "Age of Reptiles" because of our current cladistics. Archosaurs/forms/morphs ruled the land and sky for most of the mesozoic but never the sea (besides a brief foray by the metriorhynchids). The seas were ruled by Sauropterygians, Ichthyosaurs & Mosasaurs. The first two may be related to archosauromorphs but the latter were lepidosaurs.
Is anyone else determined to see a Tanystropheus, watch how it lives, then eat it?
Laios has joined the chat.
For the bowls: If you have fire you can fire pottery.
You would first want to bring a light environment protection suit with a respirator-air filter. cooling and heating system, oxygen mix tanks for the suit, polarized goggles, backpack of camping supplies with tools and knives, heavy rifles with both lethal and tranquilizer rounds, water filtration/sterilization gear, walkie talkies(and batteries)...
The best place to visit in that period would be any temperate climate area away from CAMP.
Gingko seeds need to be boiled after the rind is removed, and ferns need detoxing, as do cycads. Some researchers think that very primitive proteas may have existed then, which may be edible and can contain rich edible nectar. Plus lots of reptiles and freshwater to hunt and detoxify(ccok). There may be edible fungi.
You would probably want to see what the small generalist mammals are eating, as large synapsid herbivores, like cows, probably has multiple stomach to detoxify and process vegetation.
Potatoes and Beans are poisonous, too. Just don't eat em raw and not too much
Seconding someone else. On the audio feeds the whole episode is just Kallie's introduction.
We need another series where you guys talk about the edable plans in the different periods and then come up with a recipe for a dish using them and then make the dish with the modern day counterparts of the ingredients. You can dry and the grind the inner bark of conifers to make a type of flour so I'm thinking something fried in conifer flour batter with some kind of Tahini sauce. Yum! It's too bad there's no sugar or honey because if there was we could make a fermented soda from the needles that tastes a bit like sprite.
I have yet to survive the end of 2024.
Best duo❤
On Spotify this only has the first 4 min??
Host can survive with no food for a couple of weeks for sure
That's a bit mean.
I'm actually really enjoying these extra long ones
Pterasaurs wouldn't come anywhere near us. We can throw. They've never encountered an animal that can do that and they would learn to avoid us relatively quickly.
Throwing is the real game-changer in human evolution. Every other animal has to get close and intimate in order to kill. We
are the only animal that kills at a great distance, negating any immediate danger. We throw things, anything we like, especially if its sharp and pointy, and we can throw it hard, far, and accurate.
Forget the brain or the opposable thumb -- the real evolutionary advantage of humans is the rotator cuff.
Short and simple answer no O2 levels way to low for humans to survive 🤗😎
I don't know, Tibetans and Andeans seem to do just fine (though they do have specific adaptations to support this).
Edit: Tibetan plateau is 19-20% O2 whereas end Triassic was like 11%. Yeah, we'd be cooked!
What if I'm a Sherpa?
@@BiTurbo228 That's relative composition of the atmosphere, the pressure is similar in absolute terms (~ 12 kPa) for both cases.
@@deheavon6670 Yep true, but it's relative composition that causes most of the issues (largely chronic anoxia). Pressure causes problems too of course.
you guys always forget about homo sapiens third most op adaptation; the ability throw things accurately with force! That with a pointy stick essentially allowed us to hunt mammoths and ground sloths and anything we could poke.
I do like the way some Americans say the word "animals".
She has a bit of a Montana accent, it's charming.
I like the way they use the words, pumped and roasted
Craft time is back! mad max armor sounds amazing out of proto turtles
In the triassic oxygen levels were 12%.
Humans would experience lack of coordination and mental impairment.
Humans would be dead in a week from lack of oxygen
Jokes on you, I'm already mentally impaired
I live in a place over 4000ft of altitude, oxygen levels are around 17%, we are perfectly fine.
Bolivian people live at higher altitudes than the highest mountain in Europe, where oxygen concentration is 10%
All cities in colorado are above 3000ft.
That would be about 90 mmHg of arterial oxygen, which would cause some dyspnea (feeling of breathlessness) when exerting but wouldn't be deadly by itself.
I feel like this is getting harder as we go on because the ecosystems are getting more complex and also dangerous. The Cambrian had its challenges but being eaten wasn't one of them.
The Michelle Ghost Ranch photos! They look so psyched to be there, it made me smile. I would be too!
Kallie is such a great host
When i was this early it was still in the early triassic
Dang. Beat me to it.
@@jacobsutton9528 🤣🤣
16:00 She is getting ready for Beerfest. Are we skipping the Jurassic? Its a fan favorite!
Would there be deposits of NaCl to use for seasoning?
Kallie Moore, enjoy the information you offer and your voice is so soothing.
Hmm, yes, simple choice: either you eat nuts, or you go nuts. The parallel options with bananas haven't evolved yet.
I always love listening to Kallie narrate
The End-Triassic is like the Land Before Time
FYI: For some reason the podcast version of this episode is only three minutes long.
I won't survive when there are dinosaurs around, because I'd wear my armor, scream at the top of my lungs, and try to fight one with swords and shield and pretend they were dragons, I'd die the first day... Also it would mess around with Paleontologists, an armored guy fighting a Dinosaur.
Would love to see Les Stroud (Survivorman) being asked these questions.
i love these types of videos, and the rest you do as well, but especially these types