My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was in Beersheba in first world war and he served with the Australian light horse regiments the 9th light horse regiment 3rd brigade
These old collections of footage are absolute pure gold ,priceless history for all Australians to enjoy study and cherish thank you so much for sharing..
There were many acts of bravery during WW1 as in all wars but I think the charge of the Australian Light Horse at Beersheba must be one of the greatest.
I have been to Beersheba and have seen the marvelllous memorial of the ligh horse charging wih his bayonet, the movement and the whole apect is excellent except the horseman 's face is not kind to the chap who actually spurred that horse into action. A silly comment for its a great memorial
More than likely this is the footage my grandfather shot He was qld light horse then helped raise the Australian air corps and served with Kingsford smith. We donated heaps to the Australian war memorial in Canbera.
One of my Great Grandfathers was in the Australian 1st Remounts from SEP 1915 until the end of the War, it's really difficult getting anything but scant information about the Remounts in general terms.
My grandfather, Alfred George Batts, was in the 5th Light Horse 16th Replacements and I am wondering if he is in any of the footage. It is just amazing. Thanks for posting.
Marvelous. Couple of observations. The troops have rifle holsters on their saddles unlike in the Lighthorsemen and their seems to be a bloke standing in the river at the end stark bollock naked. Except for his hat.
With all the modern tech of today, and Peter Jackson's cinema techniques and his love for all infantry history , these films could be improved greatly ,I hope someone tries to do this for future viewing , My father in law was A Wellington Rifleman with the Expedicionary forces ,to Israel , Beersheva , Jerusalem , Jericho . Ww1 . PROUD OF HIM . ❤
British cav used to watch the light horse come back from a scouting trip trip was like 4 to five weeks in desert they where like Hollywood movie stars reread it in old book brits recon there where krazy haha yer light horse where tuff
Can anyone recommend a good book on the history of the Australian Light Horse Brigade (ALHB)?? There don't seem to be any at all here in the United States. Really starting to piss me off because I'll just assume there are books in Australian libraries and book stores about the American Civil and Indian War battles: Little Bighorn, Antietam, Chickamauga. After visiting the hallowed grounds of Gallipoli (ANZAC Cove, Lone Pine and the Nek) in February of 2022, I've had an interest in the ALHB. Remarkable warriors. Did buy a book on the the Ottoman Empire's role in the First World War, and, for instance, the disastrous charge @ he Nek received a whopping two sentences in detail. Just assume they participated in the Crimean, Anglo-Zulu and both Boer Wars @ behest of the Empire throughout the 19th Century.
The Magiddo offensive was very rapid as a result we couldn't take our positions on time.It was a complete disaster.But for us the war didn't end with ww1 and we established a new republic country with leadership of Mustafa Kemal ATATURK.
Everything has its beginning & ending... It was more than just economics & dissent that saw the end of the Ottoman Empire. It was a very brutal regime that had occupied the land of Foreigners, often against the will & support of the local populations, who were diverse in Ethnicity & Religion - everyone had had enough of the Ottoman Empire by that time... The old days of the Empire where Public Executions & Impaling people was standard operations, became increasingly on the nose & raced to a rapid end as more & more dissent brewed. The increased immigration that occurred to escape the Engineered Famine created by the Ottomans, bought FRESH NEWS to the Western World on the miserable conditions imposed by the Ottomans on Minority Ethnic & Religious Communities, especially on the Christian communities... Besides, the Vast Territory occupied by the Ottomans allowed increasing levels of Resistance & plots of National independence anyway, the Empire's collapse was only a matter of time... It wasn't such a bad thing for the wider Region & World that the Ottoman empire came to a close, they had a good run of 600 years or so anyway... Now Turkey has its own Republic where it does not need to rule over others brutally to succeed & depend on brutality to retain order... Which brings me to a different issue, your comment reflecting the modern Turkish attitude towards the old Empire: Turkey doesn't dwell on building a new Empire or hating the Allied forces they faced in WWI, they actually appreciate the Turkish Republic which has emerged from the Ashes of the Ottoman Empire... The only people who really didn't adjust to the fall of Ottoman Rule were the Palestinian Arabs, who were once heavily dependent on the Empire for Positions of Influence & Employment, suddenly found themselves abandoned, and so in turn they abandoned the region & sold their landholdings, relocating to other areas in the wider Middle East region... This is the background to the modern conflict between the Palestinian Territories & Israel, with the illusion of "Palestinian Nationalism" that we see today, despite the forefathers of these same Palestinian Arabs never holding such ideologies under Ottoman Rule & at the conclusion of the Ottoman Empire, proceeded to abandon the region as the Turks had already done & sold off their Landholdings... Sadly, all the Palestinian "Nationalist" movements have achieved since then is to fight a pointless battle which has no historical basis & approach Arab State after Arab State & even non-Arab States like Lebanon, to search for a "New Empire" to occupy the Palestinian Region & the recently established Israeli State. This of course failed, because the Age of Empires is nothing but a historical memory confined to History Classes at Schools & instead, this pursuit of a new Empire resulted in the illegal occupation of Lebanon by the PLO & later their allies & financial backers, the Syrian Regime. The very same thing the PLO was arguing against while fighting Israel but all too happy to perpetuate themselves on others in the misplaced pursuit of a Syrian Empire that would encompass Lebanon, Israel & the Palestinian Territories - just as the Ottomans once did... Yet all this approach has achieved is further conflict, the refinement of Political (not necessarily Islamic) Terrorism & the continued segregation of Millions of Palestinian Refugees living in Camps located in Syria & Lebanon - Assad even bombed the hell out of the Palestinian Refugee Camps in Syria, falsely claiming they had joined ISIS & then punishing them for not working for him as Terrorist Enforcers of the Regime in the Syrian Civil War... So yeah, life does go on after such events as a World War & the collapse of an Empire, Turkey understands this reality very clearly & built a new country... Modern Palestinians, particularly the Militants who are exploiting community ignorance surrounding the fraud of Palestinian Nationalism, would do well to refresh their History Studies as Turkey already has & start to move forward into a new Future, instead of pointlessly pursuing a History of Empire as a means to justify their fight for Nationalism - which only causes further damage to Palestinians, despite the Foreign Rule of an Occupying Empire having absolutely nothing to do with Nationalism in any language known to man...
personally l will never forget the betrayal of Arab tribes who worked for British benefit.Since then peace has abandoned them eternally.l also wish them for the worst fate.my eight grand uncles never returned from those bloody red sands.
No wonder there’ll be no peace in the Middle East if people like you hold grudges like this. War is war, it’s tragic on all sides, forget about your little personal feelings and understand what happened, happened.
Truly wish I were with the "Light Horse" Brigade at this time period,,although most likely I not survive,,or would return after engagements,,battle with enemy,,.This great scarce original film..Allan,,in west USA..
Actually under turkish rule (-1918) the area was considered "southern Syria" , historically known also as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, Judea and the Levant. The romans named the province Judea after the jewish revolt "Syria Palaestina", the term originally stemming from greek writers like Herodotus, who wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley. It all goes back to the days of the Egyptian pharaoes and the Hebrew word "Pelesheth", which is also found in various forms in hebrew bible texts. The British made it official with World War one and their campaign in Sinai and Palestine 1915-1918, which led to the League of Nations Mandate Palestine ...
@@paulbaker9277 Both you & the original poster need to rewatch the Video & take notice of the surrounding locations: This is what the Ottomans abandoned after 600+ years of Empire Rule... The Ottomans & populations loyal to them OBVIOUSLY abandoned the Palestinian Desert because they were NOT using it anyway, regardless of their evacuation after losing a War. And any sustainable Land which may have once existed over 600 years previously, was now Desert - but even when giving your argument the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps Palestinians did used to live there in the Desert & not just the Arab Bedouins famous for inhabiting the Arabian Desert & who also worked with the Lighthorse BTW (NOT the Ottomans); History once again disputes such claims you both made, since extensive records exist which make endless references to the Famous "Wells of Beersheba", that is the Ancient Water supply that allows for Human & Livestock Habitation in the Beersheba region which is located at the edge of an expansive Desert... And who followed the Ottomans? The Palestinian Arabs, who having been appointed to positions of power, influence & leadership in the Region by the Ottomans, suddenly found themselves unemployed & unable to Farm the Desert with Food & Animals... Why didn't they simply return to the Bedouin Life of Desert Farming & rejoin their "Indigenous Bedouin Communities" ? Because they are a DIFFERENT Culture to the Bedouin Arabs who inhabited the Palestinian Desert! 💥 And besides, the Palestinian Arabs didn't respect the Bedouin Life, they respected the order & plunder of Empire, not the Tribal Order of the Bedouin! So guess what they did instead? They SOLD the Land when possible & abandoned the rest... Why? Because they NEVER had a sense or concept of "Palestinian Nationalism", that idea & concept disappeared 600 years previously at the beginning of the Ottoman Empire, perhaps even before that... And what has all this talk of the fraudulent "Palestinian Nationalism" achieved? Nothing, but the PLO did invade Lebanon, just like they accuse the Israeli's of doing to them, and then the PLO bought the Invading Syrian Regime into Lebanon, doing ONCE AGAIN what they accuse Israel of doing, except that the Palestinians REALLY did do it to Lebanon TWICE! 💥 And now millions of Palestinians are forced to live in Refugee Camps because they NOW have a history of engaging in Terrorism to overthrow Sovereign States. And at the very least, they have a history of being unable to defend themselves adequately against imposing Terror Groups who repeatedly Hijack their Refugee Camps for Terrorism purposes.... This is the cold, hard REALITY of the Palestinian Nationalist "aspirations" which you argue for, despite there being no historical basis for those "aspirations"...
@@davidschiller9327 Yeah, that's why the PLO/Arafat went to Syria (among others) to back them up... This is the TRUE Historical Context to the issue raised by the Original Post... This Historical Context clearly demonstrates that the modern ideology & concept of "Palestinian Nationalism", the same banner under which Arafat fought his war, is actually a fraudulent illusion & a weapon of political propaganda which holds no historical basis to underpin any possible legitimacy its adherants claim exists.. This "Palestinian Nationalism" is all about re-establishing the Rule of Empire in the Palestinian Territories, the recently established Modern State of Israel & the surrounding Neighbours that share their Borders... Which ironically is the exact opposite agenda, goals, function, purpose & aspirations of any legitimate "Nationalist" Leaders, be they Palestinian or anyone else... The author of the original comment just wants to feel like he is a Rebel with a Cause, instead of being entirely void of one... 💥
*The Charge of the Light Brigade* “When can their Glory Fade? Oh, the Wild Charge that they made!” These words were made famous by Alfred Lord Tennyson in his poem, ‘The Charge of the Light Brigade’, and refer to that fateful day on 25th October 1854 when around six hundred men led by Lord Cardigan rode into the unknown. The charge against Russian forces was part of the Battle of Balaclava, a conflict making up a much larger series of events known as the Crimean War. The order for the cavalry charge proved catastrophic for the British cavalrymen: a disastrous mistake riddled with misinformation and miscommunication. The calamitous charge was to be remembered for both its bravery and tragedy. The Crimean War was a conflict which broke out in October 1853 between the Russians on one side and an alliance of British, French, Ottoman and Sardinian troops on the other. During the following year the Battle of Balaklava took place, beginning in September when Allied troops arrived in Crimea. The focal point of this confrontation was the important strategic naval base of Sevastopol. The Allied forces decided to lay siege to the port of Sevastapol. On 25th October 1854 the Russian army led by Prince Menshikov launched an assault on the British base at Balaklava. Initially it looked as if a Russian victory was imminent as they gained control of some of the ridges surrounding the port, therefore controlling the Allied guns. Nevertheless, the Allies managed to group together and held on to Balaklava. Once the Russian forces had been held off, the Allies decided recover their guns. This decision led to one of the most crucial parts of the battle, now known as the Charge of the Light Brigade. The decision taken by Lord Fitzroy Somerset Raglan who was the British commander-in-chief at Crimea, was to look towards the Causeway Heights, where it was believed the Russians were seizing artillery guns. The command given to the cavalry, made up of Heavy and Light Brigades, was to advance with the infantry. Lord Raglan had conveyed this message with the expectation of immediate action by the cavalry, with the idea that the infantry would follow. Unfortunately, due to lack of communication or some misunderstanding between Raglan and the commander of the Cavalry, George Bingham, Earl of Lucan, this was not carried out. Instead Bingham and his men held off for around forty five minutes, expecting the infantry to arrive later so they could proceed together. Unfortunately with the breakdown in communication, Raglan frantically issued another command, this time to “advance rapidly to the front”. However, as far as Earl of Lucan and his men could see, there were no signs of any guns being seized by the Russians. This led to a moment of confusion, causing Bingham to ask Raglan’s aide-de-camp just where the cavalry were supposed to attack. The response from Captain Nolan was to gesticulate towards the North Valley instead of the Causeway which was the intended position for attack. After a little deliberation back and forth, it was decided that they must proceed in the aforementioned direction. A terrible blunder that would cost many lives, including that of Nolan himself. Those in a position to take responsibility for the decisions included Bingham, the Earl of Lucan as well as his brother-in-law James Brudenell, the Earl of Cardigan who commanded the Light Brigade. Unfortunately for those serving under them, they loathed each other and were barely on speaking terms, a major issue considering the severity of the situation. It had also been said that neither character had earned much respect from their men, who were unfortunately obliged to obey their ill-fated commands on that day. Lucan and Cardigan both decided to proceed with the ill-interpreted orders despite expressing some concern, therefore committing around six hundred and seventy members of the Light Brigade into battle. They drew their sabres and began the doomed mile-and-a-quarter-long charge, facing Russian troops who were firing on them from three different directions. The first to fall was Captain Nolan, Raglan’s aide-de-camp. The horrors that followed would have shocked even the most experienced officer. Witnesses told of blood splattered bodies, missing limbs, brains blown to smithereens and smoke filling the air like a huge volcanic eruption. Those who did not die in the clash formed the long casualty list, with around one hundred and sixty treated for wounds and about one hundred and ten dead in the charge. The casualty rate amounted to a staggering forty percent. It was not just men who lost their lives that day, it was said that the troops lost approximately four hundred horses that day too. The price to pay for lack of Military Communication and Experience was steep." 💥☠️💥☠️💥☠️💥☠️💥☠️💥☠️💥☠️💥
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was in Beersheba in first world war and he served with the Australian light horse regiments the 9th light horse regiment 3rd brigade
These old collections of footage are absolute pure gold ,priceless history for all Australians to enjoy study and cherish thank you so much for sharing..
Thanks Tristan. We agree completely.
Tristan Carroll ..BRAVO . YOU OBSTINATE AUSSIES.
There were many acts of bravery during WW1 as in all wars but I think the charge of the Australian Light Horse at Beersheba must be one of the greatest.
I have been to Beersheba and have seen the marvelllous memorial of the ligh horse charging wih his bayonet, the movement and the whole apect is excellent except the horseman 's face is not kind to the chap who actually spurred that horse into action. A silly comment for its a great memorial
The nek
More than likely this is the footage my grandfather shot
He was qld light horse then helped raise the Australian air corps and served with Kingsford smith.
We donated heaps to the Australian war memorial in Canbera.
This is amazing! My great, great grandfather was in the light horse in Palestine.
A brilliant little gem of a film.
Cheers for that , My Grandad fought at Gallipoli, and the middle east in the first war........... nice to see it how he saw it.
Hard men, good horses.
LEST WE FORGET
What a Collection, thanks for uploading. It’s a treasure.
Thanks for your feedback.
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman at Beersheba during the first world war
One of my Great Grandfathers was in the Australian 1st Remounts from SEP 1915 until the end of the War, it's really difficult getting anything but scant information about the Remounts in general terms.
Amazing scenes... Great men-soldiers and horse-soldiers
Anyone else see the single frame (subliminal shot LOL) of the soldiers using the Vickers machine gun range finder at 8:10? That was very cool to see.
Wow well spotted.
My grandfather, Alfred George Batts, was in the 5th Light Horse 16th Replacements and I am wondering if he is in any of the footage. It is just amazing. Thanks for posting.
Reinforcements.
@CALMING WHITE NOISE my great grandfather was a farrier attached to the 5th as well but 22nd reinforcements
@@nathanbessell3515 Critical Job! Without a Healthy Hoof, you have no Horse!
Marvelous. Couple of observations. The troops have rifle holsters on their saddles unlike in the Lighthorsemen and their seems to be a bloke standing in the river at the end stark bollock naked. Except for his hat.
Very important to keep your hat on. Don't want to go and get sunstroke.
The Lighthorse were also accompanied by the New Zealand mounted rifles brigade, so maybe they used the Holsters?
My great grandfather was in the 5th Light Horse Brigade (15th Light Horse Regiment). I wonder if he was in this footage.
So clearly crucial for Australia's defence requirements.
Brilliant footage.
my Grandfather was in the light horse lancer barracks parramatta nsw
thank you oz light horse brigade
Wow thanks for sharing
You're welcome.
My great uncles were there. My great grandfather was in france
8:22 Australian Light Horse Mounted Infantry not Cavalry
With all the modern tech of today, and Peter Jackson's cinema techniques and his love for all infantry history , these films could be improved greatly ,I hope someone tries to do this for future viewing , My father in law was A Wellington Rifleman with the Expedicionary forces ,to Israel , Beersheva , Jerusalem , Jericho . Ww1 . PROUD OF HIM . ❤
Earnest Ebenezer Short was his name . ❤
Was wondering to get some film of my grandfather Jock Gilligan who was in the Australian Imperial Camel Corp
Hi, can I use part of this video ? I am makeing a short vid of my grand uncle, leslie Tuhoe lowery who was with the anzac's in Palestine?
Hi - please contact faclibrary@nfsa.gov.au.
@@NFSAFilms Ok thanks
British cav used to watch the light horse come back from a scouting trip trip was like 4 to five weeks in desert they where like Hollywood movie stars reread it in old book brits recon there where krazy haha yer light horse where tuff
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Can anyone recommend a good book on the history of the Australian Light Horse Brigade (ALHB)?? There don't seem to be any at all here in the United States. Really starting to piss me off because I'll just assume there are books in Australian libraries and book stores about the American Civil and Indian War battles: Little Bighorn, Antietam, Chickamauga. After visiting the hallowed grounds of Gallipoli (ANZAC Cove, Lone Pine and the Nek) in February of 2022, I've had an interest in the ALHB. Remarkable warriors. Did buy a book on the the Ottoman Empire's role in the First World War, and, for instance, the disastrous charge @ he Nek received a whopping two sentences in detail. Just assume they participated in the Crimean, Anglo-Zulu and both Boer Wars @ behest of the Empire throughout the 19th Century.
I don’t know about a history book in general, but a really good book is “Bill the bastard”
Imagine after centuries of English and French crusades that some blokes come from the end of the world to capture Damascus instead.
They look like either the 5th or 10th LHR.
The Magiddo offensive was very rapid as a result we couldn't take our positions on time.It was a complete disaster.But for us the war didn't end with ww1 and we established a new republic country with leadership of Mustafa Kemal ATATURK.
Everything has its beginning & ending...
It was more than just economics & dissent that saw the end of the Ottoman Empire. It was a very brutal regime that had occupied the land of Foreigners, often against the will & support of the local populations, who were diverse in Ethnicity & Religion - everyone had had enough of the Ottoman Empire by that time...
The old days of the Empire where Public Executions & Impaling people was standard operations, became increasingly on the nose & raced to a rapid end as more & more dissent brewed.
The increased immigration that occurred to escape the Engineered Famine created by the Ottomans, bought FRESH NEWS to the Western World on the miserable conditions imposed by the Ottomans on Minority Ethnic & Religious Communities, especially on the Christian communities...
Besides, the Vast Territory occupied by the Ottomans allowed increasing levels of Resistance & plots of National independence anyway, the Empire's collapse was only a matter of time...
It wasn't such a bad thing for the wider Region & World that the Ottoman empire came to a close, they had a good run of 600 years or so anyway...
Now Turkey has its own Republic where it does not need to rule over others brutally to succeed & depend on brutality to retain order...
Which brings me to a different issue, your comment reflecting the modern Turkish attitude towards the old Empire:
Turkey doesn't dwell on building a new Empire or hating the Allied forces they faced in WWI, they actually appreciate the Turkish Republic which has emerged from the Ashes of the Ottoman Empire...
The only people who really didn't adjust to the fall of Ottoman Rule were the Palestinian Arabs, who were once heavily dependent on the Empire for Positions of Influence & Employment, suddenly found themselves abandoned, and so in turn they abandoned the region & sold their landholdings, relocating to other areas in the wider Middle East region...
This is the background to the modern conflict between the Palestinian Territories & Israel, with the illusion of "Palestinian Nationalism" that we see today, despite the forefathers of these same Palestinian Arabs never holding such ideologies under Ottoman Rule & at the conclusion of the Ottoman Empire, proceeded to abandon the region as the Turks had already done & sold off their Landholdings...
Sadly, all the Palestinian "Nationalist" movements have achieved since then is to fight a pointless battle which has no historical basis & approach Arab State after Arab State & even non-Arab States like Lebanon, to search for a "New Empire" to occupy the Palestinian Region & the recently established Israeli State.
This of course failed, because the Age of Empires is nothing but a historical memory confined to History Classes at Schools & instead, this pursuit of a new Empire resulted in the illegal occupation of Lebanon by the PLO & later their allies & financial backers, the Syrian Regime.
The very same thing the PLO was arguing against while fighting Israel but all too happy to perpetuate themselves on others in the misplaced pursuit of a Syrian Empire that would encompass Lebanon, Israel & the Palestinian Territories - just as the Ottomans once did...
Yet all this approach has achieved is further conflict, the refinement of Political (not necessarily Islamic) Terrorism & the continued segregation of Millions of Palestinian Refugees living in Camps located in Syria & Lebanon - Assad even bombed the hell out of the Palestinian Refugee Camps in Syria, falsely claiming they had joined ISIS & then punishing them for not working for him as Terrorist Enforcers of the Regime in the Syrian Civil War...
So yeah, life does go on after such events as a World War & the collapse of an Empire, Turkey understands this reality very clearly & built a new country...
Modern Palestinians, particularly the Militants who are exploiting community ignorance surrounding the fraud of Palestinian Nationalism, would do well to refresh their History Studies as Turkey already has & start to move forward into a new Future, instead of pointlessly pursuing a History of Empire as a means to justify their fight for Nationalism - which only causes further damage to Palestinians, despite the Foreign Rule of an Occupying Empire having absolutely nothing to do with Nationalism in any language known to man...
personally l will never forget the betrayal of Arab tribes who worked for British benefit.Since then peace has abandoned them eternally.l also wish them for the worst fate.my eight grand uncles never returned from those bloody red sands.
No wonder there’ll be no peace in the Middle East if people like you hold grudges like this. War is war, it’s tragic on all sides, forget about your little personal feelings and understand what happened, happened.
Truly wish I were with the "Light Horse" Brigade at this time period,,although most likely I not survive,,or would return after engagements,,battle with enemy,,.This great scarce original film..Allan,,in west USA..
Frank Ernest Gordon PULLEN 5th light Lewis’s gunner
8:10 Bazooka??
6:10 Palestine's Jewish citizens in furry hats that they still wear in 2019.
.....a bit upsetting to see the innocent dead beasts of burden ; but who knows , their life was probably unpleasant anyway .
Frank Turley?
And now the horses that are left are treated so poorly by the egyptians. shame on AUS govt not bringing equines back.
Palestine......Exactly.
Actually under turkish rule (-1918) the area was considered "southern Syria" , historically known also as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, Judea and the Levant. The romans named the province Judea after the jewish revolt "Syria Palaestina", the term originally stemming from greek writers like Herodotus, who wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley. It all goes back to the days of the Egyptian pharaoes and the Hebrew word "Pelesheth", which is also found in various forms in hebrew bible texts. The British made it official with World War one and their campaign in Sinai and Palestine 1915-1918, which led to the League of Nations Mandate Palestine ...
More like the Rothchilds future plan's.
@@paulbaker9277 Both you & the original poster need to rewatch the Video & take notice of the surrounding locations: This is what the Ottomans abandoned after 600+ years of Empire Rule...
The Ottomans & populations loyal to them OBVIOUSLY abandoned the Palestinian Desert because they were NOT using it anyway, regardless of their evacuation after losing a War.
And any sustainable Land which may have once existed over 600 years previously, was now Desert - but even when giving your argument the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps Palestinians did used to live there in the Desert & not just the Arab Bedouins famous for inhabiting the Arabian Desert & who also worked with the Lighthorse BTW (NOT the Ottomans); History once again disputes such claims you both made, since extensive records exist which make endless references to the Famous "Wells of Beersheba", that is the Ancient Water supply that allows for Human & Livestock Habitation in the Beersheba region which is located at the edge of an expansive Desert...
And who followed the Ottomans?
The Palestinian Arabs, who having been appointed to positions of power, influence & leadership in the Region by the Ottomans, suddenly found themselves unemployed & unable to Farm the Desert with Food & Animals...
Why didn't they simply return to the Bedouin Life of Desert Farming & rejoin their "Indigenous Bedouin Communities" ?
Because they are a DIFFERENT Culture to the Bedouin Arabs who inhabited the Palestinian Desert! 💥
And besides, the Palestinian Arabs didn't respect the Bedouin Life, they respected the order & plunder of Empire, not the Tribal Order of the Bedouin!
So guess what they did instead?
They SOLD the Land when possible & abandoned the rest...
Why?
Because they NEVER had a sense or concept of "Palestinian Nationalism", that idea & concept disappeared 600 years previously at the beginning of the Ottoman Empire, perhaps even before that...
And what has all this talk of the fraudulent "Palestinian Nationalism" achieved?
Nothing, but the PLO did invade Lebanon, just like they accuse the Israeli's of doing to them, and then the PLO bought the Invading Syrian Regime into Lebanon, doing ONCE AGAIN what they accuse Israel of doing, except that the Palestinians REALLY did do it to Lebanon TWICE! 💥
And now millions of Palestinians are forced to live in Refugee Camps because they NOW have a history of engaging in Terrorism to overthrow Sovereign States. And at the very least, they have a history of being unable to defend themselves adequately against imposing Terror Groups who repeatedly Hijack their Refugee Camps for Terrorism purposes....
This is the cold, hard REALITY of the Palestinian Nationalist "aspirations" which you argue for, despite there being no historical basis for those "aspirations"...
@@davidschiller9327 Yeah, that's why the PLO/Arafat went to Syria (among others) to back them up...
This is the TRUE Historical Context to the issue raised by the Original Post...
This Historical Context clearly demonstrates that the modern ideology & concept of "Palestinian Nationalism", the same banner under which Arafat fought his war, is actually a fraudulent illusion & a weapon of political propaganda which holds no historical basis to underpin any possible legitimacy its adherants claim exists..
This "Palestinian Nationalism" is all about re-establishing the Rule of Empire in the Palestinian Territories, the recently established Modern State of Israel & the surrounding Neighbours that share their Borders...
Which ironically is the exact opposite agenda, goals, function, purpose & aspirations of any legitimate "Nationalist" Leaders, be they Palestinian or anyone else...
The author of the original comment just wants to feel like he is a Rebel with a Cause, instead of being entirely void of one... 💥
*The Charge of the Light Brigade*
“When can their Glory Fade?
Oh, the Wild Charge that they made!”
These words were made famous by Alfred Lord Tennyson in his poem, ‘The Charge of the Light Brigade’, and refer to that fateful day on 25th October 1854 when around six hundred men led by Lord Cardigan rode into the unknown.
The charge against Russian forces was part of the Battle of Balaclava, a conflict making up a much larger series of events known as the Crimean War. The order for the cavalry charge proved catastrophic for the British cavalrymen: a disastrous mistake riddled with misinformation and miscommunication. The calamitous charge was to be remembered for both its bravery and tragedy.
The Crimean War was a conflict which broke out in October 1853 between the Russians on one side and an alliance of British, French, Ottoman and Sardinian troops on the other. During the following year the Battle of Balaklava took place, beginning in September when Allied troops arrived in Crimea. The focal point of this confrontation was the important strategic naval base of Sevastopol.
The Allied forces decided to lay siege to the port of Sevastapol. On 25th October 1854 the Russian army led by Prince Menshikov launched an assault on the British base at Balaklava. Initially it looked as if a Russian victory was imminent as they gained control of some of the ridges surrounding the port, therefore controlling the Allied guns. Nevertheless, the Allies managed to group together and held on to Balaklava.
Once the Russian forces had been held off, the Allies decided recover their guns. This decision led to one of the most crucial parts of the battle, now known as the Charge of the Light Brigade. The decision taken by Lord Fitzroy Somerset Raglan who was the British commander-in-chief at Crimea, was to look towards the Causeway Heights, where it was believed the Russians were seizing artillery guns.
The command given to the cavalry, made up of Heavy and Light Brigades, was to advance with the infantry. Lord Raglan had conveyed this message with the expectation of immediate action by the cavalry, with the idea that the infantry would follow. Unfortunately, due to lack of communication or some misunderstanding between Raglan and the commander of the Cavalry, George Bingham, Earl of Lucan, this was not carried out. Instead Bingham and his men held off for around forty five minutes, expecting the infantry to arrive later so they could proceed together.
Unfortunately with the breakdown in communication, Raglan frantically issued another command, this time to “advance rapidly to the front”. However, as far as Earl of Lucan and his men could see, there were no signs of any guns being seized by the Russians. This led to a moment of confusion, causing Bingham to ask Raglan’s aide-de-camp just where the cavalry were supposed to attack. The response from Captain Nolan was to gesticulate towards the North Valley instead of the Causeway which was the intended position for attack. After a little deliberation back and forth, it was decided that they must proceed in the aforementioned direction. A terrible blunder that would cost many lives, including that of Nolan himself.
Those in a position to take responsibility for the decisions included Bingham, the Earl of Lucan as well as his brother-in-law James Brudenell, the Earl of Cardigan who commanded the Light Brigade. Unfortunately for those serving under them, they loathed each other and were barely on speaking terms, a major issue considering the severity of the situation. It had also been said that neither character had earned much respect from their men, who were unfortunately obliged to obey their ill-fated commands on that day.
Lucan and Cardigan both decided to proceed with the ill-interpreted orders despite expressing some concern, therefore committing around six hundred and seventy members of the Light Brigade into battle. They drew their sabres and began the doomed mile-and-a-quarter-long charge, facing Russian troops who were firing on them from three different directions. The first to fall was Captain Nolan, Raglan’s aide-de-camp.
The horrors that followed would have shocked even the most experienced officer. Witnesses told of blood splattered bodies, missing limbs, brains blown to smithereens and smoke filling the air like a huge volcanic eruption. Those who did not die in the clash formed the long casualty list, with around one hundred and sixty treated for wounds and about one hundred and ten dead in the charge. The casualty rate amounted to a staggering forty percent. It was not just men who lost their lives that day, it was said that the troops lost approximately four hundred horses that day too.
The price to pay for lack of Military Communication and Experience was steep."
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Very Beautiful footage
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman at Beersheba in the first world war