Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Retrospective and Review - ScionVyse

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  • Intelligent Systems followed up their N64 classic five years later, and in doing so created the benchmark for what a game sequel should be.
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  • @milesrodger3724
    @milesrodger3724 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Smallish TH-camrs talking about Paper Mario is my favorite pastime

  • @noidea5597
    @noidea5597 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    THOUSEND YEAR DOOR ON SWITCH!!!!

    • @noidea5597
      @noidea5597 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      AND IT LOOKS FANTASTIC!

    • @y345vash9
      @y345vash9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Looks are nice, but the big question is, are they going to change anything? If they want to fix some of the backtracking issues I'm all for that, but they better not add any woke sh*t. If they do, I'm not buying it 👎👎

    • @Corgipon
      @Corgipon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@y345vash9if you use “woke” (which was originally a term used in African American English that had a completely different meaning) in that context, then you’re automatically a red flag.

    • @mythosinfinite6736
      @mythosinfinite6736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@y345vash9
      it's Nintendo. they don't even know what that is.

    • @Spidercola
      @Spidercola 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@y345vash9I regret to inform you Vivian is canonically transgender in the original ttyd

  • @VenusFeuerFalle
    @VenusFeuerFalle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I love that this game finally has a real post-game. Most games just let you save before the final boss and every NPC talks about how important it is for you to defeat the enemy, stuck at a moment before the climax without letting you enjoy the world around properly.

  • @riank20
    @riank20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I love just listening to you talk about something you are so passionate about this video is almost and hour long but it went by in a blink of an eye great job make me want to go back and play it 🎉

    • @Skittl_EZ
      @Skittl_EZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here

  • @prismaticseal2553
    @prismaticseal2553 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this game so much, as a kid I barely knew english being born in a spanish speaking country but most actions were shown in other ways, I had to rely on a spanish guide for some sections but it was something I used only ever so if I couldnt progress in days, it ended up being the most memorable game in my life next to Crash 3, so full of soul, so full of details, so MUCH PERSONALITY, everything is great, backtrack aside the game is a 10/10 for me to this day, it can be improved, a enchanced remake would make this game even better but with that said to anyone who hasnt tried it, do, its barely a Mario game (since mario is being usually related to bland formulaic games) this is an ADVENTURE

    • @Skittl_EZ
      @Skittl_EZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love this take :)

  • @Chesterfried
    @Chesterfried 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's been over 15 years since i completed this gem and want to come at it as fresh as possible when the remake releases. See you in a few months after i have finished it!

  • @RikThunder33
    @RikThunder33 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I find Tech pretty endearing.

  • @GarfieldWithAHat
    @GarfieldWithAHat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So Chapter 7.
    I think there's a reason why they made you backtrack. They want you to revisit all the areas again to pick up anything you may have possibly missed AND also give you the opportunity to revisit everything one last time, because basically once you find general white, it's a straight shot through the chapter, and then the game rushed you to the thousand year door essentially saying it's very urgent, and why wouldn't you at that point? Why would you bother revisiting past areas one last time at that point?

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That doesn't make sense given the game is designed to be linear and to not need to backtrack, the new powers don't help as you can first clear everything but Help Board and T3 Partners and you can take a pipe directly to the town to ask for General White or if there is no Pipe your method puts you directly at the town.

  • @sirshartsalotxvii
    @sirshartsalotxvii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Found your channel this morning looking for sprite animations (mario super star saga style) and your series on superstar saga came up, i have to say i havent been so captivated in a video in a while and ive been watching you the entire day. You earnt a sub man

  • @doshi066
    @doshi066 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im so confused how the quality of this game you shown look this amazing and its not from the remake since this was uploaded 2 years ago

  • @doshi066
    @doshi066 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    im here cause of the thousand year door remake on switch! its amazing and my first time playing it!

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just finished the Switch remake, which is the first time I played it. And I absolutely loved it. Dunno which version looks better tho. I wish there was a way to switch back and forth between old and new look, which ALL Remakes and Remasters should do

  • @Seth_Hezekiah
    @Seth_Hezekiah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I disagree that the ending is just a retread. Ttyd adds the entire world into the ending, while paper Mario just uses peach.
    64 essentially used the power of romantic love. Ttyd used the power of community. I think that's a stronger message.

  • @unraged6004
    @unraged6004 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How does this only have 8 comments

    • @RZ302
      @RZ302 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Long videos are often just listened to in the background and therefore get less interaction like likes or comments, which is why they perform below average on TH-cam.

  • @makogal7571
    @makogal7571 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey, I have a genuine question, if you don't mind it coming from an older video. Why didn't you talk more about Vivian like you did Bobbery? Because Vivian's story is also incredibly deep when actually looked into and I feel for how amazing this retrospective is... it misses Vivian just a bit much. I'm actually on this video because of the TTYD remaster announcement and your video about that, because you do make great content! I'm just curious why you never really touched on Vivian's story much, despite it being the most prominent multi-chapter story of all the partners.

    • @makogal7571
      @makogal7571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And I completely understand if I just missed it, but I rewatched the video and even looked through the transcript and couldn't find much about Vivian's story. So I just thought I'd ask!

    • @ScionVyse
      @ScionVyse  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Looking back through my script, (this was a year and a half ago) I did touch on it a bit, but yeah, I didn't go as in depth as I did with Bobbery, and that's probably because I forgot to lol.

    • @makogal7571
      @makogal7571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ScionVyse Alright, thank you for checking!

    • @CosmicShadowMari0
      @CosmicShadowMari0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ScionVyse Aye that caught my ear as well, you briefly mentioned what Vivian was going through partway into the video and said "but more on that later." It didn't really come up again though, so I figured it was just and oversight, no worries or anything.
      Been loving the reviews by the way! Binging a lot of them, they're super well constructed and thoughtful, made for a very easy subscribe button to hit

    • @Loner098
      @Loner098 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Speaking of Vivian, something that didn't sit right with me about the epilogue was Beldam suddenly becoming a good person just because the Shadow Queen was destroyed when resurrecting the Shadow Queen was Beldam's master plan from the very beginning. Unless they were implying that she was being influenced or mind-controlled in some fashion, they should've done a better job at explaining it. Otherwise, it just comes across as bizarre at best and mind-fumblingly dumb at worst because you have to remember that Beldam had still verbally abused and tormented Vivian, that you seriously trust she'll never do anything to Vivian again? If you ask me, having a family abuse victim join back with their abusers... doesn't feel like a good lesson to teach to children, especially children who are victims of abuse (maybe even by their own family members) like Vivian. So, instead, what I would like to do is have Goombella tell Mario that Vivian has been trying to socialize with more people now (her being a transgender female could also work well, too, since that was censored from English version) and also have Vivian helping out others who feel like they're unwanted. As for Beldam and Marilyn, why not have a post-game side quest where you choose to help them seek redemption when they (mostly Beldam) feel like there's nothing left for them in the world now that they're plan has failed? Maybe it could even involve the Palace of Shadow again where they even talk about their own lives as well and you could help them see that there's more to a world than just following orders and/or taking it over. Or, hell, maybe even just have them atone for their crimes. I know they probably don't deserve to be redeemed, and it's pretty cheesy, too, but, honestly, anything could've worked better than that part of the epilogue we got in the base game.

  • @TheHaremReviewer
    @TheHaremReviewer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chapter 4 could’ve been one of the best if they either didn’t force you to get the letter P which is funny but more so annoying on replays. That would allow you to only backtrack from the town and castle once instead of twice which would be a huge improvement although would’ve made the chapter even shorter
    Or they could’ve allowed Vivian’s ability to move her and Mario underground in order to move past all the enemies that way you don’t have to spend so much time grinding or just repeatedly running away

  • @SANTI_697
    @SANTI_697 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paper Luigi DLC pls

  • @game84cube
    @game84cube 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obfuscate: (verb) to render unclear or to obscure.
    Your vocabulary is immaculate!

  • @desertdesmond6736
    @desertdesmond6736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what's the texture mod?, i've seen it lots of times before and never found it online. Great review by the way!

  • @vengeflyking2722
    @vengeflyking2722 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Personally I don’t like the music in 2 or Super. But uh…that’s really just me, it seems.

  • @Royalhanburglar
    @Royalhanburglar ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When toadette has her last scene with you, she is super sad and doesn’t want to leave. How does a character you see like a total of 4 times make you care so much about them??? Ask ttyd 🥹🥹🥹

  • @tripleaaabattery8480
    @tripleaaabattery8480 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love this game so much but I have to disagree with the general white quest not being bad as flowery fields. As linear and backtrack-heavy as flowery fields is, at least it's progress in a new area.
    The General White quest however, is completely, utterly pointless. You literally travel around the whole world again, just to find out the guy you're looking for was in the outpost you got your quest from the whole time. A complete, utter time waster to, what I assume, is set up a gag. A gag that isn't very funny when you realize how much time you wasted

    • @BigA207
      @BigA207 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But there’s warp pipes that allow players to fast travel back to each town. To be fair, they are a bit out of the way.

  • @jefferyandbob3137
    @jefferyandbob3137 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Honestly the areas just look really pretty, this is one of the few Mario games that doesn’t feel like it’s going through the motions

  • @joshakins4923
    @joshakins4923 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Am i the only person who thought the crows talking about fossil fuels was a funny joke

  • @ARod3
    @ARod3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Everyone better buy the remake!!!

  • @rebelembassy7527
    @rebelembassy7527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey man it’s been nearly 11 years, when are you going to upload part 70 of the LOTR the third age walkthrough (Pelennor fields evil mode)?

    • @RideForRuin
      @RideForRuin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not scion but cool to see people still playing third age, doing so as we speak :)

    • @jefferyandbob3137
      @jefferyandbob3137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sure it’ll be any day now

  • @dante.nathanael
    @dante.nathanael ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Missed this game in almost its entirety. The copy I had was unfortunately scratched and could never get past the tree with the mice.

    • @GayWario
      @GayWario 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buy the switch remake and play the game.

  • @calh8209
    @calh8209 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    just found this video after rewatching danny and arin’s playthrough. great video, seriously deserves more views

  • @ninjareactions6695
    @ninjareactions6695 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We got the remake !!!

  • @bdasher8556
    @bdasher8556 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I 100% agree that chapter 4 desperately needed more content. People keep focusing on the backtracking and the problem being that it's too long but considering I'm pretty patient with repetition, I was far more disappointed with the lack of areas to explore.

  • @maxtubb8560
    @maxtubb8560 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TTYD is one of those games that I have try so hard to get into but utilmatly I just can’t into this game because it has the same problem with most other RPGs such as repetitive gameplay and annoying backtracking that just brings down the entire experience for me.
    Also I kind of feel like this game is a little too off brand for a Mario game with aspects that to me feels really out of place and kind of goes against the Mario brand.
    Now don’t get me wrong I do like it when Mario games become more creative and weird like Odyssey and Wonder but what makes those work is that while they are weird games they also keep what makes a Mario game a Mario game.
    On the other hand TTYD while it has a few recognizable aspects from the mainline Mario games it has way too many off brand aspects that kind of doesn’t clash very well with cartoony design of the Mario characters.
    Overall I don’t hate TTYD and I respect its legacy on RPGs but unfortunately it’s a game I just can’t get into.

  • @RilTDM
    @RilTDM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like how Luigi tells you things about his adventure while his companion at the time (depending on when you talk to him) tell you Luigi is lying but they contradict that and just say that Luigi is leaving certain things out of what had happened. like at one point when he was trying to throw one of his companion (the blooper one) who was ok with the plan of being thrown in order to solve a puzzle Luigi had tripped and dropped his companion into lava (I think that's what he was dropped in) and got cooked (literally)

  • @rileyallen489
    @rileyallen489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My one wish for the remake is for them to fix the backtracking in chapter 4

  • @Skittl_EZ
    @Skittl_EZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love watching this channel while falling asleep!!
    -Joel from Vsauce

  • @sg-zd8eb
    @sg-zd8eb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The name is Beldam, not bedlam.

  • @TaylorC-gx7pg
    @TaylorC-gx7pg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who else is hear because of the remake?

  • @Brian-nv8ei
    @Brian-nv8ei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When TTYD is good, its fantastic. When its not good, boy is it a damn slog. But at least the slogs are mercifully short-ish

  • @acorn5687
    @acorn5687 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    apollo's gift of prophecy

  • @myghostflower
    @myghostflower ปีที่แล้ว +6

    loved this review as well, ttyd is literally in my top 5 of favorite games ever, literally one of the best sequels/games ever

  • @Final_Starman
    @Final_Starman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Odama any good?

  • @mandoloriansoju3841
    @mandoloriansoju3841 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just having finished the remake on Switch, it’s definitely an overrated game. A great game, solid 8/10 imo but very overrated as everyone online hyped it up to be this 10/10 experience

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still better than most of the modern trilogy

  • @PlushieMarioMadness
    @PlushieMarioMadness 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:22 it makes sense in the Mario tennis game on GameCube. When you win is Luigi Mario walks up on stage and stomped on Luigi shoe not letting him have his victory.

  • @questionmarkquestionmarkques
    @questionmarkquestionmarkques ปีที่แล้ว

    algorithm comment

    • @SuperPlacido1
      @SuperPlacido1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stupid comment! If you have nothing to write, then write nothing instead of writing something stupid and not relevant!

    • @MrAjking808
      @MrAjking808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn’t work like that stop saying this