The Allure of Vintage Dinosaur Artwork

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
  • Sorry this one took so long; I spent a lot of time tracking down as many old books and movies as I could to really study them and make this video.
    MUSIC:
    0:00 - 0:40 = Dinosaur! (mini-series) - Gerhard Heinz
    0:41 - 1:10 = The Rite of Spring - Igor Stravinsky
    1:11 - 2:04 = The Great Dinosaur Hunt - Jack Tillar and William Loose
    2:21 - 3:08 = The Rite of Spring - Igor Stravinsky
    3:27 - 4:54 = The Land Before Time - James Horner
    5:22 - 6:20 = The Rite of Spring - Igor Stravinsky
    6:39 - 8:32 = Walking with Dinosaurs - Benjamin Bartlett
    8:33 - 10:19 = When Dinosaurs Roamed America - Christopher Franke
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  • @HoopsAndDinoMan
    @HoopsAndDinoMan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

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    • @EnnEmmEee
      @EnnEmmEee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Appeal of Vintage DINOSAUR art
      th-cam.com/video/GUTF0HTryXQ/w-d-xo.html
      (P.S. If my video's title is too similar to yours, I can change it.)

  • @damonblade3195
    @damonblade3195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    These old depictions of dinosaurs had a type of savage beauty about them , somthing that didn't talk down to children like most of the media for children. These stories , movies and artworks talked about the harsh realities of life in a way that made it bearable even cool. Growing up in South Africa , these depictions of the prehistoric world kind of made my own harsh reality a little more bearable.

    • @pokechimp1544
      @pokechimp1544 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Prehistoric Nerd Egypt and Morroco yield tons of dinosaur fossils and is where the famous spinosaurus lived

    • @elmochomo8218
      @elmochomo8218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pokechimp1544 rugops charcharadontosaurus too

  • @morrius0757
    @morrius0757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    The science today doesn't devalue the science of the past, the science of the past is what the science of the future is built upon. Don't look at old movies and art thinking that the people back then were crazy believing dino's looked that way, respect it for what it is, a slice of history.

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You are standing on the shoulders of giants. Don't believe yourself to be flying.

    • @mrsinister8978
      @mrsinister8978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly. As the years go by we learn more and more about Dinosaurs.

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    There are so many dinosaur books I wish I could see again.

    • @DirtiestDMusic
      @DirtiestDMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I can still smell them. That musty library scent.

    • @erictorres5539
      @erictorres5539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still have most of mine saved, but I really need to find my Zoobook Dinosaurs magazine 😫.

    • @noelanderson969
      @noelanderson969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember a National geographic dinosaur book I used to read that had artwork similar to what's in this video!

  • @SaurianTarget
    @SaurianTarget 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Excellent analysis! However detached from our current understanding of dinosaurs as it may be, old-school paleoart was the catalyst that captured the mystery and sparked the intrigue for many of us to become fascinated with dinosaurs, myself included. Without its allure, I don't know that I'd be as interested in dinosaurs as I am today.

  • @tazzreviews1578
    @tazzreviews1578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I’d love to see a movie mix the more modern depiction of dinosaurs and put them in a world with the tone of retro paleoart. I think blending the two would create an unforgettable experience

  • @BrawlSnorlax
    @BrawlSnorlax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Man, it would be cool if somebody could make an accurate dinosore move with an old school aesthetic.

  • @jl.7739
    @jl.7739 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Nothing more mysterious than stop motion dinosaurs

  • @AdrianParkinsonFilms
    @AdrianParkinsonFilms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    For me, Charles R. Knight's famous T. rex and Triceratops painting is the best painting of all time. Forget the Mona Lisa and anything by Picasso, none of that comes close to the atmosphere and spectacle that painting inspires. Yes, it's outdated compared to our modern understanding, but for its time also forward thinking in how he depicts the T. rex in a much more horizontal pose with its tail off the ground.
    What I love about that painting and so many other old dinosaur paintings is that they were more than just an illustration based on the scientific understanding of the day which can become outdated at any moment. They were beautiful works of art that are a sight to behold. This is something I rarely see in modern paleoart.

    • @WreckItRolfe
      @WreckItRolfe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Charles R Knight style is gorgeous.

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh and ''leaping Laelaps'', was a classic as well.

  • @UltimateThanos
    @UltimateThanos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The fact that DeviantART has a subgenre of dinosaur art called "Retrosaurs" speaks for itself.
    I'd also like to argue that these so-called Retrosaurs make for ideal fantasy creatures. Especially if you dip one toe into the fantastic with them. My favorite example of this is Gorosaurus from King Kong Escapes, an Allosaurid who primarily fights by balancing on his muscular tail and delivering kangaroo kicks.

  • @absalondebarvac3715
    @absalondebarvac3715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    A gloomy prehistoric world with a red sky, filled with angry lizards and weird plants...

  • @thegreattotemaster
    @thegreattotemaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think that eerie, atmospheric artwork of prehistoric life could still work, even when depicting completely up-to-date science about these animals and the ecosystems in which they lived.
    After all, there are so many strange, wondrous and mysterious things even in our modern world, along with breathtaking and arguably "otherworldly" landscapes (for example Mt. Roraima, the unique mountain flora of East Africa, the bizarre aquascapes of Lake Baikal, the fluffy moss-coated lava formations of southwest Iceland, the redwoods of California, or the deserts of the American southwest).
    Imagine, if you will, how hauntingly beautiful it would be to see a herd of (scientifically accurate) Diplodocus crossing a river as they carve a new migration path through a foggy Araucaria forest at the first light of dawn, appearing like majestic and imposing dark silhouettes cutting the rays of morning sunlight...

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There is just something so charming about old school dinosaur art and stop motion. It shows us how far we have come in understanding these creatures. Also fun fact, Disney had paleo experts consult him and the animators on the film since he wanted to show the dinosaurs as realistically as possible. Sure it is super outdated and lots of stuff is wrong but you can't deny that those dinos feel like real breathing animals.

  • @pyrrhusofepirus8491
    @pyrrhusofepirus8491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I honestly really like both of them, the new ones are experimental, realistic and exceptional. But there’s just something about the old artwork and setting, it’s grim, it’s harsh, rocky, misty, primordial and the colours are muted, and the music by god the music, much like you said and better. Even the old inaccurate styles I find very appealing.

    • @zqfmgb4335
      @zqfmgb4335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree. I generally like modern paleoart works better in a conventional way (as in, I find them aesthetically pleasing and I like their accuracy), but the old ones are good too, just in a different way. They're less pretty and accurate and don't elicit the same wonderlust as modern ones to me, but they have a fascinating and eery atmosphere, which this video describes really well.

    • @GG10010
      @GG10010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new are accurate and treat the dinos like what they are animals but damn do should someone use the old paleo art for a metal album cover

  • @Guilmaanikko
    @Guilmaanikko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Ahh, the old pictures of dinosaurs in misty forest and swamps. Those are the things that to this day give me that childlike excitement in my heart.

  • @chickendrawsdogs3343
    @chickendrawsdogs3343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Back when I was a kid our TVs didn't have a lot of science shows to go around, so I pretty gobbled up all the archaeological contents there were. Dinosaurs and Egypt were my absolute favorite subjects to the point that I wanted to become an archaeologist (until I found out in the sixth grade that I was terrible with remembering dates). I still have images and a voice (I think it was quite possibly Sir Attenborough's) in my head about this one particular story about a brachiosaurus who was attacked by a T-Rex but survived, only to slowly succumbed to blood loss and infection. It died on the bank of a river, and as the water rose, the mud covered its body, eventually fossilizing the remains, and our scientists found it. The show ended with the saying "Her life may have ended millions of years ago, but her story continues to this day." Even as a kid I found it hauntingly beautiful.
    I don't know if I remember correctly, or it's just my mind trying to piece together memories of different things to make sense, but it's good to air out nonetheless.

    • @mrsinister8978
      @mrsinister8978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also loved Dinosaurs and Ancient Egypt as a kid. Still do

  • @ulfberht4431
    @ulfberht4431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I really admire your appreciation for the old depictions of Dinosaurs and the art of them. Sure, it is outdated, but just cause something is outdated doesn’t mean it needs to be shunned like a supervillain. You are one of the few Dino enthusiasts TH-camrs who actually appreciates this from a nostalgia point of view and sees some merit to it, unlike most who shun these types of art and laugh at anyone who actually likes them. Don’t get me wrong, I do prefer modern depictions of dinosaurs (even the feathered therapods though mostly for the creative and varied interpretations), but the old art is something to also look back fondly, just like looking back on the old cars or old video games.

  • @MrWhatdafuBOOM
    @MrWhatdafuBOOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'll always have a nostalgic soft spot for the upright T-Rex. Probably also part of why I became a Godzilla fan so early on in my life.

  • @TangmoMopet
    @TangmoMopet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am only one person that almost cry when hoops summarized the last dinosaur?

  • @ForwardSynthesis
    @ForwardSynthesis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I relate deeply to this feeling and what you point out about the color tones in this kind of art is something that's been bugging me for a while because I haven't been able to put my finger on it.
    Old dinosaur art definitely has this hazy, slightly delirious feeling to it, and it really gives off a strong impression of the sweltering HEAT and hostility of the environment itself. You look at the pictures and you can imagine being stranded there on an alien Earth where the environment is as much a threat to you as the beasts inhabiting it are. The fact that the dinosaurs and even creatures like the Dimetrodon (a popular non-dinosaur subject of paleoart) are innacurrate adds to the alien, somewhat nightmarish quality of some of the art, being as it's harder to visually connect them to living lineages of creatures like avians when they are not reconstructed from a perspective that includes that knowledge. They seem like strange monsters from the unspoken before-time rather than the once living animals that they really were. You almost see them moving like stop-motion figures in your mind's eye.
    In this vein, I find some of Charles R. Knight's work to be genuinely unsettling.

  • @pyrrhusofepirus8491
    @pyrrhusofepirus8491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There’s something I really adore about the old types of dinosaur art and depictions, there’s something so savagely beautiful about them, it’s far more strangely alien.

  • @VenomTheLethalProtecterFan
    @VenomTheLethalProtecterFan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can confirm that your fascination and allure of outdated dinos are not just nostalgia. I'm also fascinated by the old dino designs . I just think they're interesting and plain epok

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The red and orange light always creeped me as a kid, you describe the feel of these images very well 👏👏👏

  • @vasiudurawane4147
    @vasiudurawane4147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know so well what you mean. The old stuff was drawn by amazingly skilled artists and the images felt so warm.

  • @BrinIoca
    @BrinIoca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I sing the praises of modern dinosaur art, but classic dino art is what got me into the concept of ancient life in the first place when I was a kid in the 90s. I like them both for different reasons.

  • @aaronsarchive82
    @aaronsarchive82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    We have to remember that scientists worked with the artists at Disney to create the look of the dinosaurs in the Rite of Spring segment. They wanted to shy away from a cute cartoony look to something that was hyper realistic. The dinosaurs that appeared on screen had the stamp of approval by the scientific community of 1940. At the time, the designs were seen as accurate based on the fossil evidence of the era. This means the entire sequence is a time capsule of how these creatures were viewed by scientific researchers in the 30's and 40's.

  • @baderq8ty99
    @baderq8ty99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    this whole video: i just think they're neat

  • @joschuaknuppe5849
    @joschuaknuppe5849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very well done, I agree very much!

    • @yawning69
      @yawning69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joschua Knuppe! (BTW I’m sorry on the phone that I couldn’t spell your name exactly right☹️.) But you’re amazing!

  • @zerakielvmark
    @zerakielvmark 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There is a real charm to these old retro dinosaurs, I've been thinking a lot about it. Is there maybe a community out there that appreciates these retrosauria?

  • @mikebeckett03
    @mikebeckett03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    **The Land Before Time Original score Intensifies**
    Edit: 9:33 MAH BOIS ITS THE ELEPHANT SEAL SPINO

  • @scorpiopede
    @scorpiopede 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Another fantastic video. While clearly outdated there's a reason "retrosaurs" have their own little following. Actually you might find it interesting that there's an oldish video game that purposely uses more outdated styles for their dinosaurs. "Carnivores" largely bases its creature designs off of Zdeněk Burian's artwork and it really stands out, especially since the game came out after Jurassic Park hit theatres and most people were ripping off that movie for their designs.

    • @ruthiecorbyhenry
      @ruthiecorbyhenry 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      what game is it?

    • @Ditidos
      @Ditidos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ruthiecorbyhenry Carnivores is the name of the game. But there is a sequel called Carnivores 2 and it also have a mobile port called Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunters. The comunity around have made fantastic mods too respeting the old school style of the original games, I particularly enjoy Carnivores +, mostly because I never got to play the original Carnivores and it is kind of too buggy for today standarts.

    • @fluffyyutyrannus
      @fluffyyutyrannus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruthiecorbyhenry Carnivores

    • @danz9507
      @danz9507 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruthiecorbyhenry Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter

  • @DoomPickle490
    @DoomPickle490 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As someone that is no longer super interested in dinosaurs (at least not to the agree I loved them as a kid), I really love this video and how it really hits home not just to the allure of the art but also just of dinosaurs in general and how this older art really captured this nearly fantasy-esque wonder of dinosaurs and these nearly alien, creatures that lived before we ever did and yet eventually declined. It really does capture this weird sense of wonder and like genuinely I feel like a part of my brain got reactivated that I haven't used since I was a kid

  • @nickes1176
    @nickes1176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That "old, hand-painted dinosaur illustration books from the library of your elementary school" feeling.

  • @Qsrjeiwjwj
    @Qsrjeiwjwj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Those have so much more atmosphere and style

  • @Frogkhan915
    @Frogkhan915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's a completely different type of fantastical dinosaur nostalgia but I think the atmosphere those original Dinotopia illustrated children's books generated fits in with all this somehow and always had a lot of resonance for me as a kid.

  • @freelunch1458
    @freelunch1458 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    IMO Mark Witton does a really good job of preserving this sort of style while also making his depictions more up to date. A lot of paleoart nowadays is done with a sort of metaphorical rejection of the idea that the image is a painting, they strive to be very realistic in both tone and visuals and it can lead to the art being kinda sterile and looking similar between artists (Henry Sharpe, Gabriel N. U. Julio Lacerda etc.). Mark Witton is on the opposite end of the spectrum all of his works have such bold color pallets and brush strokes he really seems to embrace the medium. Aside from making him stand out since all of his work is instantly recognizable his paintings feel like they have a lot more texture and mood to them, there's a real richness I get looking at the paintings. Don't get me wrong the works of Henry Sharpe, Gabriel etc. are all amazing and much better than anything I could ever do but if I had to choose paleoart to hang on my walls it would be Mark Witton. Idk maybe I'm crazy but this is just the way I feel and I just wanted to gush about his work lol.

  • @SpongeBobaFett
    @SpongeBobaFett 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is probably one of the best recommendations TH-cam has ever made for me

  • @ObsessedwithZelda2
    @ObsessedwithZelda2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Though I’m no longer into dinosaurs, I’ve been reflecting lately that I miss the old artwork, so this was perfect to see

  • @bennycostello2472
    @bennycostello2472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What's kind of funny is even today we have no clue what any of them actually looked like. Some fossils were litteraly just 2 bones.

  • @Spartan-ic3zj
    @Spartan-ic3zj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m at my grandparents house and I found some dinosaur books with art from the 50’s and 60’s and I felt so nostalgic I nearly died. My point is it’s crazy to imagine these animals as well...animals!

  • @spacegoldfish9481
    @spacegoldfish9481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    basically: Old dinosaur artwork just has a nostalgic Vibe. even the dinosaur designs have a sense of nostalgia. gone are the upright tails and the general energy most dinosaurs have. in their place are slow lumbering animals with droopy, tired eyes and just a general air of sleepiness to them, evoking memories of watching old movies and reading old books. idk, That's probably just me. While I personally love the modern day dinosaur designs, far more then any old paleo art pieces, I can’t help but like these old pieces of art.

  • @revzillo
    @revzillo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got to agree I'm remember seeing a picture of a Tyrannosaurus Rex in a book one time it was really breath taking not like the ones we see illustrated or in films theses days but like the old animated ones . It had all the more impact with the scenic back ground and the break weather. It was really well illustrated fir it's time . I think this was in the eighties sometime .

  • @josemanuelbarajas9481
    @josemanuelbarajas9481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I do love new dinosaur illustrations, but old depictions of they and the prehistoric earth always makes me imagine of being there and see how things were. It is a strange feeling of fascination and wonder, maybe cause the inaccurate old depictions that makes them look like some kind of reptile/alien creatures hahaha.

  • @manospondylus4896
    @manospondylus4896 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best website to check out vintage dinosaur art is probably Love in the time of Chasmosaurs

  • @Val-gv3vu
    @Val-gv3vu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank,you.Finally, someone is talking about this.

  • @stegotyranno4206
    @stegotyranno4206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    honestly, i like crazy violent dinosaurs, but not just because its cool as hell.
    It reminds me that before us, there was a different, more violent world, where fighting was key to survival. groups and families will bond and protect each other in this harsh world. It really appreciate the sheer power and what dinosaurs probaly may had gone through. Of course, dinosaurs mostly did non violent things, but when they got violent, which was more often than todays animals, things got really ugly

  • @extramemes2136
    @extramemes2136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s almost like the old Roman art with Uber-muscular hero’s and lions with weird alien faces

  • @devinmorse9112
    @devinmorse9112 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The film Excalibur (1981) opens to a similar effect, with knights riding out of the primordial darkness into a smoky, torch-lit hillside battle.

  • @philipgior3312
    @philipgior3312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Being born in the 60's the books I had when I was a kid came out in that period and earlier. The depictions of dinosaurs were inaccurate but the images of them became iconic in my mind.

  • @herschelhatcheriv9577
    @herschelhatcheriv9577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Art doesn’t have to be scientifically accurate to be great. It’s art.

  • @ebervaliusahau2289
    @ebervaliusahau2289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    > Legless elephant-seal Spinosaurus
    > Up-to-date and realistic
    Jokes aside, these are some interesting thoughts... I personally prefer newer dinosaur artwork (speaking in a general way), but I find it interesting to analise old stuff from an artistic perspective, like Victorian illustrations or Soviet paleoart.

  • @narohato1749
    @narohato1749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Last Dinosaur was one of my favourite books as a kid. So brutal. As much as I love the accuracy of modern dinosaur art, nothing will ever surpass the mythic quality of old school dinosaur art.

  • @tb8865
    @tb8865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think the strength of the old dinosaur representations is the narrative sense that permeated everything. Artists took a mysterious and almost Biblical sensibility to their Prehistoric vision. While the more naturalistic style prevalent today has its strengths, i have to say i prefer the epic set pieces and dramatic aesthetic of past dinosaur art.

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    James Horner really was good at his score for the Land Before Time. Come to think of it, so was John Williams for Jurassic Park. I guess dinosaurs brought out some of the best from those legendary composers.

  • @Metronoma1
    @Metronoma1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    is it possible for you to do a list where you write the names of all the movies and books you refference in this video? I would love that! :)

    • @HoopsAndDinoMan
      @HoopsAndDinoMan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      Movies:
      Fantasia
      One Million Years BC
      When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth
      Dinosaur! (short documentary)
      Dinosaur! (A&E mini-series)
      Journey Into Time
      The Animal World
      The Great Dinosaur Hunt
      The Land Before Time
      The Land That Time Forgot
      Dinosaurs the Terrible Lizards
      Age of Mammals
      Books:
      Dinosaurs Giants of the Past
      The Last Dinosaur
      Dinosaur Story
      All Yesterdays
      Last of the Dinosaurs
      When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth
      Graveyards of the Dinosaurs
      Dinosaurs An Educational Coloring Book
      There may be others I'm forgetting, but that's essentially the list.

    • @Metronoma1
      @Metronoma1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Thank you so much! :) and merry christmas. @@HoopsAndDinoMan

    • @damenwhelan3236
      @damenwhelan3236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for asking this!

    • @mrmanpersonguy5812
      @mrmanpersonguy5812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HoopsAndDinoMan I thought that was Graveyards of the Dinosaurs! Love that book.

    • @xXMystikWolfXx
      @xXMystikWolfXx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dangerz Own Oh yes I felt the same! It really hit home with this score, all the feelings and eerie of this scene came back into my mind.

  • @Eps852
    @Eps852 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think it ovocs a interesting atmosphere it reminds me of an alian world often enough especially with the lighting encoding the environment from the forests to the swamps to the rocky deserts it all feels so provoking

    • @xangrycatmanx5104
      @xangrycatmanx5104 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Evokes is the word, also alien.

  • @MrSquid-ko4fp
    @MrSquid-ko4fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You captured my feelings on vintage dinosaurs exactly. I never had a word for it before but you got it: alien and mysterious. I didn't really grow up with these kinds of dinosaurs, being born a good while after Jurassic park became big, so I don't have the same nostalgic filter. Yet there was always something that drew me in about these portrayals. And I think it was the mysterious feeling they gave. These worlds, these times, swarmed in unknown to me and to the readers then. And even then, they also scared me. As you stated, dinosaurs were portrayed so alien like, so cold and different to our world, our civilizations and animals. Our communities, where we had safety and warmth and familiarity, there is none of that in these old-school dinosaur art. Looking at these grainy images, bizarre stop-motion animation and ugly yet charming toys of the time, it really is something else. Intrigued and amazed yet disturbed all the same by these terrible lizards.

  • @TheBigFrasier
    @TheBigFrasier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FINALLY SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO ON THIS!!!

  • @alang.bandala8863
    @alang.bandala8863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Maybe that's the reason of why people says that science ""ruind"" dinosaurs. They want something never seen, not a bird... ironic

  • @oreos4843
    @oreos4843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Its 3am
    How appropriate

  • @logan4761
    @logan4761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    wow. Someone finally put it into words

  • @HoopsAndDinoMan
    @HoopsAndDinoMan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    If you know of any old dinosaur books/movies with this kind of style, I'd be happy to hear some recommendations!

    • @AB-ug4cq
      @AB-ug4cq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      if you want an old dino book check this book out, The Great Dinosaur ATLAS illustrated by Giuliano Fornari A Pictorial guide to the Prehistoric world.

    • @Raygathex
      @Raygathex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Valley of Gwangi is great

    • @Grand_History
      @Grand_History 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HoopsAndDinoMan my favorite one was called Dinosaurs to Dodos. It’s not as old, but over ten years aged. Great atmosphere to the art, and depicts life from the Cambrian to the last ice age. From what I can remember, most of it is still accurate to some degree, but I always loved the artwork, which there was plenty of

    • @t-r-e-x452
      @t-r-e-x452 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the whole series of books that last of the dinosaurs is part of.
      As for favorite old school movie I would have to say the first King Kong

    • @ErikBurmanIMINDETEGY
      @ErikBurmanIMINDETEGY 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When we manage to build working time machines, I think we will go back to dinosaurs so we know how they lived and did in the days that I would do

  • @Damivarius
    @Damivarius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A lot of those vintage artworks were scientifically accurate at the time and some of the works today look more fantasy than science. Art can be weird like that.

    • @ginam5497
      @ginam5497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i find that is it relad to birds it will look wack cuz birds see colores mamels cant

  • @riamus7258
    @riamus7258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the fact that I'm not the only one who has appreciation for these classic pieces of the olden days of paleoartistry.
    These are great reminders of how far we've come and must be preserved as history of what we've learned and discovered and how much our image of prehistoric animals has changed.

  • @davidbradley6040
    @davidbradley6040 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I used to love the Little Golden Book of Dinosaurs

  • @macready12G
    @macready12G ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I know this is an older video, but I really appreciate what was talked about here. No one really takes much time to discuss vintage paleoart, unless its simply check boxing scientific inaccuracies. While modern paleoart is more scientifically accurate and treats dinosaurs as ordinary creatures, vintage paleoart tends to paint them more as fantastical beasts inhabiting an unforgiving world. That in itself enraptures the human imagination in the way it does, drawn by the mystery spoken of in this video, but there's also a horror aspect as well. Vintage paleoart depicts the Mesozoic landscape as antithetical to the comforts of the modern world, where danger lurks around every tree shrouded in that thick fog.
    Besides this, the work of artists like Mark Hallett, Douglas Henderson, John Sibbick, Eleanor Kish, and so many others deserves to be seen and respected. They worked with what was available at the time, and created some truly astounding art pieces I remember seeing in paleoart books of the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Scientifically inaccurate though it might be, it'd be a crying shame for so much of that artwork to be forgotten or mocked.

  • @thefloridamanofytcomments5264
    @thefloridamanofytcomments5264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How many sets of tracks did we have to find before someone said “... hey guys... why aren’t there giant tail scrapes distorting all the pathways...?” 🤣

  • @roboguy75
    @roboguy75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Even if it’s not scientifically accurate there’s still something about older dinosaur work that fascinated me. The mystery, the otherworldly stuff, and much more. Heck stuff like Universe of Energy or at least the dinosaur part fascinates me in terms of how they looked even if I know for example Tyrannosaurus never stood up like in say Valley of Guanji abd was more like the Jurassic park one and later depictions.

    • @canonbehenna612
      @canonbehenna612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guanji is an allosaurus not a t rex

  • @IceSpoon
    @IceSpoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I suggest you to read "Love in the time of chasmosaurus", a blog that talks about paleo-art and it's quite respectful about vintage artwork and artists.
    Also, I noticed you put the music of Walking With Dinosaurs of the asteroid crash scene. Very fitting for "the last dinosaur", uh?

  • @allothecheekclapper
    @allothecheekclapper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like modern scientifically accurate artwork but you cant beat that old style aesthetic

  • @EvanJamesAudio
    @EvanJamesAudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The title for this video is arguably the greatest thing I have ever read.

  • @giaphant169ainmsandcartoon6
    @giaphant169ainmsandcartoon6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You know something i actullay like both the old and new

  • @Crimsonking741
    @Crimsonking741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Even though I didn't grow up during the time of vintage dinosaur artwork,I was very aware of it and found it very cool,even though I do prefer more modern paleoart.

    • @aliendinoboi7037
      @aliendinoboi7037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like the emotions on the dinosaus in the new ones its like they are robots

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The great thing about the vintage work is that it created love and passion for the subject

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not to mention, it was created WITH love and passion.

    • @athos9293
      @athos9293 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And the modern ones don't?

    • @bigboi5545
      @bigboi5545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @athos9293
      Lets just say that if dinosaurs were always portrayed as they are in the modern artworks presented in this video, they would not be nearly as popular a subject as they are.

  • @adumsundler4397
    @adumsundler4397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I totally agree. Whilst I do love modern accurate artwork. I have a soft spot for old-school dinosaur art. I especially love the art of Wayne Barlowe.

    • @HoopsAndDinoMan
      @HoopsAndDinoMan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. Wayne Barlowe's dinosaur paintings always have such unique situations instead of just the typical image of a dinosaur standing around doing nothing with a generic background.

  • @kylgrv
    @kylgrv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a lot of appreciation for the dinosaur works of old too, since many of them left a big impact on my childhood.

  • @gazelleguy
    @gazelleguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think something else about vintage dinosaur art is the scale (no pun intended). I think of Charles R. Knight's murals depicting vast landscapes, creating stages for the giant behemoths to perform on. There was also a flair for extreme conflict, like you state in the video - volcanic eruptions, life-and-death battles, etc - because those create a larger sense of tension, thus reinforcing the grandiosity of the depictions. I think that enormous feeling is what I love about old dinosaur art.

  • @thesillygoosemuffin3940
    @thesillygoosemuffin3940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Theropods are just T H I C C birds.

  • @liamflanagin7134
    @liamflanagin7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    vintage art also shows them doing animal things

  • @TheMormonSorceress
    @TheMormonSorceress 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That explains why Ark is so much fun to play. The dinos are colorful and the environment kind of feels like something on earth. But dosn't mean these guys are puppies as they are wild animals that will eat you if your not careful. (Unless tamed)

  • @Algeriawindows69
    @Algeriawindows69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like the new art because it has more creative designs
    And
    I like the old art because it is nostolgic to me

    • @AnicentLich
      @AnicentLich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same.I agree with you

  • @ghulstavo4489
    @ghulstavo4489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    For all its flaws, I love old art like no other. Outdated, sure, but mythical and majestic.
    And adding to that was before the idea of a meteor was proposed, the dinosaurs “just disappeared”, is simply existentially haunting. Sure there were ideas of volcanism and mammals and diseases, but it added up to “What happened to the dinosaurs? Nobody knows.”, left an impression like nothing else on me as a kid. Childhood cosmic horror.
    Anyway, love this video, man.

  • @Senbonzakura776
    @Senbonzakura776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great vid...brought back some many memories of book and movies I had and saw as a kid.

  • @DubleOst
    @DubleOst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Check out Diplodocus: Slow and Heavy for a nostalgic ‘dinosynth’ album. Goes really well with vintage dinoart.

  • @Tyrantlizardking52
    @Tyrantlizardking52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Charles R Knight is in my opinion the greatest paleo artist of all time if he was around today making accurate art it would be undisputed for best art

    • @scumm1075
      @scumm1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      his art of prehistoric mammals still holds up scientifically for the most part and i feel they’re the best depictions of these animals you can find to this day

  • @TheHyBriD3I6
    @TheHyBriD3I6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i would love a game that is all about vintage dinosaurs

    • @williancruz9657
      @williancruz9657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There already are dozens of those, no?

    • @turkeygod6665
      @turkeygod6665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williancruz9657 Sadly that's not the case. Your thinking of the 1990s dinosaurs. He means the dinosaurs of the 1900s. Rarely have any games been about dinosaurs dragging their tails on the ground.

  • @pepsiman3022
    @pepsiman3022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd really like there to be a modern era version of those classic stop motion documentaries

    • @chrisd2051
      @chrisd2051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd watch the shit out of that. The presenter makes it seem like modern dinosaur representations are more animalistic than alien, yet have you seen some modern depictions? Feathers and spikes and all that?

    • @pepsiman3022
      @pepsiman3022 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisd2051 yup, although some depictions go a little too far at times

  • @walterfechter8080
    @walterfechter8080 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My first exposure to dinosaur art was that of Charles Knight -- the famous Tyrannosaurus confronting a Triceratops. I also remember another Knight painting -- that of a small leaping theropod attacking another small theropod lying on its back, claws extended and ready to repel the attack. Thanks.

    • @fish1313
      @fish1313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      late reply but the second charles r knight piece you're thinking of is "leaping laelaps"

  • @johnzillastudio
    @johnzillastudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had drew dinosaurs everytime back during my childhood.

  • @yoosperson9753
    @yoosperson9753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the other day i find in youtube a 10 minute narration of an old vintage dinosaur book with images, you knoe , the type that everyome had at least 1 when anyone was a child,it was about a normal day in the life of an alpha pachisephalosaurus watching over his pack , it didnt end with everyone dead , or with the extincion (and i was expecting that, is was normal) , but ended with the pack going to sleep when the night comes again , i dont have another worth to express the nostalgy and good feeling of that little history than wholesome.

  • @lesdio_leos-d2988
    @lesdio_leos-d2988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man, I don't what to say, your video just made me really happy

  • @itsyaboy5824
    @itsyaboy5824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm not sure if I'm phrasing this correctly, but from the pieces shown in the video, I feel like older paleo art/media feels more dramatic in a sense. The color palettes, composition, lighting, and etc. feel much more purposeful and emotional, as many are trying to invoke specific emotions in the viewer. (Specifically emotions of mystery, danger, and intrigue, like what was mentioned in this video) Modern paleo art, however, seems to be focused on presenting dinosaurs as much more scientific (i.e. focusing less on things such as the composition and lighting, and more focused on depicting dinosaur species as what they probably looked and behaved like, taking specific inspiration from similar modern day species.) For many of the modern art pieces that depict dinos as actual animals, they still want to invoke specific feelings in the viewers, but I think those feelings are more ones of understanding and connection, rather than mystery and danger.
    Overall I really like both types! I find the colors and composition more appealing in older artworks and media, but the scientific lense that takes inspiration from modern animals in newer work is insanely fascinating to me :')

  • @MB32904
    @MB32904 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    nice video! one small issue: accuracy hasn't just "skyrocketed", we just found new evidence to suggest this kind of stuff, & the past stuff was accurate at it's time. there's a likely chance that the latest reconstructions will become outdated in a few years, & future reconstructions will become outdated in a few years as well.

  • @spaguettoltd.7933
    @spaguettoltd.7933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Interesting how a lot of this “golden age” Dino art was made during the height of the Cold War. No doubt this was informed by a fear of a fiery end to mankind at the hand of nuclear annihilation

  • @sid666kurt
    @sid666kurt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    when I was a kid I was really into warhammer, and what drew me in was the painted illustrations on the boxes. I also had this dinosaur book that I loved, and I found out recently the same artist that did that book also did a lot of those warhammer paintings back in the day.

    • @theshockinglyeloquentdog9945
      @theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      my bf is super in to warhammer right now, that's a pretty cool fact i can't wait to tell him!

    • @nykcarnsew2238
      @nykcarnsew2238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Parasite Museum helps that Warhammer has an army of dinosaur men

  • @raphi____6735
    @raphi____6735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thoose old pieces really have an alien or unworldly feel. Even the outdated tail dragging dinosaurs i think have an eerie feel to them since we today know that they looked way different. And with those old stop motion movies with the dragging and lumbering movements and the weird screeches. Also with the music as mentioned. I almost prefer these older dinos over the jp/jw version. I just find the older more unsettling.

  • @willimations277
    @willimations277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! This is EXACTLY how I feel about old dinosaur artwork and you just put it into words! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who gets this visceral feeling from these images

  • @RudiW1510
    @RudiW1510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I will never forget my first dinosaur book. The cover was ripped off and lost, before I was born. Some pages were also missing. But everyone who tried to talk me into giving this book away got a clear "no" from me. The mix of hyper detailed, hand drawn dinosaurs mixed with blury, stylized photos of the bones. The dusty quality of the dig site photos, enhanced by the yellowish paper ... I love it.

  • @slick3336
    @slick3336 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel the same way my man whenever I come across one of those older books. I was born in 1980 and I grew up mesmerized by them.

  • @TheHallow31
    @TheHallow31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Following this thread, you should do a video on the appeal of dinosaur/prehistoric themed levels in video games. Hell, you could even include games that are entirely of a dinosaur/prehistoric aesthetic. I really enjoy these videos of yours! Keep up the good work!